Arbitrage Betting Success: $3K to $50K — Full Breakdown & Transcript

[00:00] I was probably making around like 3 or 4k a month. So where are you kind of at now? I'm probably at like just 3 months out, 45, 50k a month. I'm trying to get that consistent income on a month-to-month basis is my goal. One day I went down like 2.7 grand one day from basically missing one side.

[00:16] My starting goal was like 5k and it ended up being 20k that first month. And when you made your first like $20,000, was there ever like a holy shit moment where you told somebody, told your fiance, you told somebody? I told my best friend from college and I showed them my screen and they were like,

[00:31] I don't know, I'm like a slur, but this is the AM. So what was your thought process from 21K a month to the 20K a month again in June? I would say just... Ladies and gentlemen, we are here in Miami.

[00:45] Met up with Nate. Nice to meet you, brother. Good to finally see you. So, Nate, for those that don't know, who are you and what do you do? Yeah, my name is Nate. From Florida. I've been doing IT recruiting the last few years, and now I'm getting, obviously, into some arbitrage sports betting.

[01:00] It's been great. So, yeah. Yes, sir. Awesome. So, for those that don't know, what was your transformation? Like, I'm sure this would just give you, like, a breakdown of the numbers. Yeah. So, like, before I even, like, found Odd Jam and all that.

[01:12] So, you can kind of start, like, where you were at before you joined the program and then now. Yeah, yeah. So I was probably, you know, on average making around like $3,000 or $4,000 a month doing positive EV betting because I found Odds Jam before you.

[01:26] And then, you know, there was a little bit of variance, which I didn't love. And then I wanted to start getting into more arbitrage betting, seeing your profits, and just trying to get that consistent income on a month-to-month basis was my goal.

[01:40] So, yeah. So where are you kind of at now? Right now, just from... Throughout the program. Oh, yeah, right now, I mean, I'm probably at, like, just three months out, just probably, like, 45, 50K at this point.

[01:55] So, yeah, it's been great. That's insane. And what actually changed? Well, when I sat down with you, just kind of going over a lot of the, you know, live betting opportunities, opening up the P2s,

[02:09] I think that's what not only changed my perception about arbitrage betting, but it allowed me to be more successful down the road long term. Yeah, and you say you were kind of already arbitrage betting before you joined.

[02:21] So you knew the system worked. What was actually broken with what you were doing versus now? Yeah, so when I first tried doing arbitrage betting, a lot of it was pre-matched and I was limited in a lot of the sports books

[02:34] because I was already doing Plunk E.D. betting on Odds Jam. And then, you know, once I sat down with you, learned a little bit more about your system and what you teach, opening up the P2s, understanding how to prime the actual P2 accounts,

[02:47] and really targeting live bets was going to save me a lot of P2 accounts. And it definitely opened up my eyes to arbitrage betting just in general. It was a game changer for me. Awesome. So take me back a little bit before.

[03:01] How did you actually find my accounts? Yeah, bro, honestly, literally, I was just, so I follow Alex Marhan, and I feel like when you follow a bunch of stuff on Instagram and ended up popping up a bunch of similar account pages.

[03:14] And your page kept showing up on my feed. And I saw the profits that you were making. Like, bro, you made like $30K one month arbitrage betting. I was like, there's no way this is true. Because I was like, you've got to be limited on everything.

[03:26] But no, that's how I originally came across you was through Instagram and a little bit of YouTube as well. And then I, you know, obviously we'll talk more about it. But I was, you know, the variance hit around this time

[03:39] where I was looking at your stuff. and I said, screw it, let's hit up Jacob's story and see if he can help me out in any way. But yeah. Yeah, so I know Miami and all of this stuff

[03:52] with the reputation of core sellers and force betting and this entire industry can get pretty dodgy in terms of people that are legit, just selling picks, stuff like that. What do you think about that and what differentiated you coming and working with me?

[04:05] Yeah, I think the fact that you show your profits, I already knew a little bit about arbitrage betting, so I wasn't going in blind to someone that was just randomly selling picks. I already kind of knew that, I guess you could say that sealed a little bit as far as guys that know what they're talking about versus not what they're talking about.

[04:23] And if you literally just watch your videos, you talk about the math behind how you're actually making money. So you weren't just scamming people. You were actually talking about the math behind it because there's a very big difference versus a guy being like,

[04:35] This is a lot versus, you know, some dude, some guy that's talking about the math, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now that you're actually kind of, you know, pretty much involved and you have a system going for you, you're doing good.

[04:48] Yeah. What is a day of arbitrage betting looks like for you? Yeah, so... Yeah, good question. So I usually, I mean, I'll wake up in the morning. I'll, I know we don't, you talked to me a little bit about this.

[05:00] Don't try to target pre-match too much. but if there's some good mainline action I can find on pre-match, I will take it. But I would say I'm really not looking until, you know, in the morning and then not maybe until lunchtime on my break just to see if there's anything else pre-match

[05:15] or sometimes you can get some live tennis going on around that time. But really when my day for arbitrage betting really starts at nighttime, probably around like 6, 7 o'clock once the games kick off, and then I'll probably finish up around 10.

[05:28] Some nights a little bit less, depending on if I feel a little burnout or anything like that. But for the most part, I'm probably on my phone, my computer for like three, four hours during the night, during the week.

[05:40] Would you say on average you're spending around three, four hours a day? Three, four hours a day, easy. But it can be a drag to some people because I know a lot of people have an eight to five or nine to five. But when you're making money, it's a lot of fun. So it's not really a burden to me.

[05:54] Yeah, awesome. and I guess throughout the process before you even found me what was kind of the factor or the variable where you were like I have to do something, I have to change something

[06:06] what was that kind of thing? Yeah, so we were talking a lot about my goals and my personal goals and obviously I have a wedding coming up I'm getting married in February Thank you bro, I appreciate it so I definitely wanted

[06:20] some extra money to help pay for that with the odds jam and some plus EV betting. It's super profitable, but the only issue is the variance. And at the time, you know, me still being relatively new to plus EV betting,

[06:36] I didn't want to risk losing a considerable amount of money. And, you know, I went down, you know, a pretty decent amount of money for January and February. And the goal really was to try to have consistent income.

[06:50] I didn't care if it was an extra $5,000, $10,000. I just wanted that consistent income at first. And then, yeah, that's when I found and we started doing more arbitrage betting and now I'm able to obviously, you know, be able to afford the wedding and the honeymoon and all that good stuff.

[07:02] How many days will it cost you? Dude like bro like 50K plus for all this So it going to be How much in the past two and a two and a half months Let go We already covered on the wedding

[07:16] So it's sick. It's awesome. That's so sick. That's awesome. Yeah. So yeah, be completely honest here. If you were transparent, what was your hesitation before joining the program,

[07:28] before making the decision to pull in the trigger? My biggest concern is just living in Florida. So obviously with living in Florida, you don't get access to a lot of the recreational sports books like FanDuel, DraftKings, and you get limited on a lot of those social casinos like ReVet,

[07:45] Doghouse, even a new one in Florida. But I was worried that not having the ability to access those really good books like FanDuel, DraftKings, what we were talking about, was going to limit my ability to make money long

[07:57] term doing arbitrage betting. and like when I saw you and you know some of your um I think I actually watched a video of you interviewing another one of your um your your clients but it got me excited but I was that was

[08:10] the biggest thing I was worried about and we talked about it you said no there's a hundred percent you know an option outside of just sandal and drop hangs and better gm where you can make money long term I didn't think it was going to be possible but here we are today and you know

[08:24] yeah was there something that you almost did instead another person you kind of wanted to work with or was it just strictly just me? Yeah, good question. You were really the only, like, I was, I was, a lot of the stuff I would do is I would watch

[08:40] like Alex Monahan videos and just like learning about odds gym and how to make money and, you know, long term with some of the, you know, easy betting strategies. But I didn't really see anyone that was consistently making like 20, 30k arbitrage betting.

[08:55] so I honestly like you have to be like the best in the field when it comes to arbitrage betting bro like I just thought you were just an expert at what

[09:08] you do and I want to I want to learn from the best I want to learn from people that are more knowledgeable than me in this field so that's really what it came down to. Awesome so I guess moving forward to when we actually got you on

[09:20] board inside the program kind of walk me through our first call together what do do? What did we talk about? Yeah, I know that we talked a lot about, you know, what books do I have? What books do I use? Where, you know, what books are you severely limited

[09:34] on? And then we kind of made a gaming plan. And what was interesting is you told me don't throw away those books just yet, because you can do some stuff with short money and plus you can still obviously lower your unit size on some of those plays. But also, I keep

[09:50] thing about P2s man like those those were a game changer and we talked a lot about trying to you know reach out to family members your friends people that you trust and feel comfortable with um and that was a huge game changer and and that was the biggest thing that we talked about at

[10:06] first and obviously bankroll you know what was my bankroll and I remember you're I was like 55k right you're like no bro not on your account like in your sportsbook I was like no bro 55k I'm telling you. So that's what we started with. We came up with a game plan and strategies

[10:23] on like where to put my, essentially where to put my money in the sports book. So that was kind of day one what we did. And just, you know, we wanted you to take notes and write stuff down, what's working, what's not working. We can obviously talk more about

[10:38] that. But yeah, that was pretty much our first call. Yeah, awesome. So I want you to kind of explain, you're going over P2s and how warming up accounts is super important. Yeah. I want you to explain the warm-up process, like I'm the old you.

[10:52] What were you doing to the accounts before that were kind of preventing you from creating longevity and sustainability? Yep, yep. So when I first started, just with opening up new accounts, taking advantage of the promos right away,

[11:05] which kind of is a red flag. Like if you're putting $100 down on Giannis to go under on his rebounds, that's kind of a red flag to the sportsbook. So really you want to do the 80-20 rule that we talked about is find the book,

[11:20] make some D-Gen plays, throw some random parways that aren't like plucky or anything like that. Just try to basically look like you don't know what you're doing. And once I was able to do that, I'm sure the sportsbooks were like,

[11:33] just hit the clown like he doesn't know what he's doing. and that allowed me to then be able to just drop like, you know, $500 on one side, $450 on the other, you know, whatever. And that helped prime the accounts and allowed me to keep my P2 accounts longer

[11:50] than I initially thought I could. Yeah. And obviously you've watched Arbitrage content before. Yeah. And something that we're super huge on inside of Arbitrage Academy is having actual tangible deliverables and checklists for you to complete.

[12:04] So what do you have to say to the people that, you know, might be in either the group coaching or something else versus having actual one-on-one help with me? How does that make a difference to you? It made a pretty significant difference for me.

[12:18] Again, especially being in Florida, it was a little bit tougher, so having that one-on-one coaching definitely helped. Also, there's a lot of stuff. I mean, there's a lot of stuff in there in the modules that you talk about, but just being able to kind of hit you up whenever.

[12:31] If I ever have any question whatsoever, I can just hit you up, and you'll give me the answer right away. Because a lot of people that go into this didn't really start where I came from and don't know anything about plus TV betting or arbitrage betting or whatever it may be.

[12:49] So having that ability to communicate with you one-on-one about literally anything was super important for my success. One example is pre-match. Like, I was hammering pre-match bets, and you're like, bro, don't do that.

[13:02] Don't do that. You're going to save your accounts. Let's just have you live betting, especially with your bankroll. No, it was super beneficial to just be able to communicate with you, like, whenever, versus just looking at the modules.

[13:14] But, again, I'm not throwing shade at the other part, because the modules are super beneficial. I looked at those, like, day one, and they provide a lot of information. But I think just the next step would obviously be that one-on-one step.

[13:28] Awesome. And what do you think was the actual hardest part about scaling up from where you were at, everything provided inside the course and the modules, whatever, to actually get done and to follow?

[13:43] The hardest part just about arbitrage betting in general? Yeah, I would say the speed, like the speed of picking it up. Because I was telling you, I was like, bro, this is tough. Like, I'm having a hard time getting debts locked down. on one side because I I love there was one day I showed you um I went down like 2.7 grand one day

[14:00] um from basically missing one side having it you know just let it ride um so just not the speed I guess you could say speed market whatever you want to say that was the biggest issue at first

[14:13] but then we talked about stoppage time we talked about only honing in on like specifically let say the MLB versus having tennis matches up WNBA up all that stuff And that helps a lot with just my schemes getting stuff down

[14:30] Stoppage. Awesome. Game changer. All right. So the top result. Yep. Your first month in May, $21,000. I want you to kind of walk me through when and how you realized you were doing something different.

[14:44] Yeah. So definitely started noticing trends with different short books on the books that were just the lines that were always cross markets from each other, like Rebet and Hard Rock were constantly cross markets.

[14:58] Basically, defining that pattern consistently was the goal. And also, like we talked about, stoppage time helped so much with just getting volume down because that was my problem initially was just trying to get a bunch of volume.

[15:11] and then also, I would say, honing in specifically on a specific sport. So, like, it's MLB season, so I pretty much just wanted to target MLB at first just to, like, try to make it as easy as possible.

[15:24] I had no expectations. I didn't care if I made, like, $2,000 that month. I just wanted to, like, try to practice the system and just get a little bit better each time. And what I can talk about, this is a market I run into if you want,

[15:39] but yeah once I once I kind of did a couple of those things for the live betting it just I mean bro it just took off like it was crazy and when you made your first like $20,000

[15:51] was there ever like a holy shit moment where you told somebody told your fiance you called somebody I told so I told my my best friend from college and I showed them my screen

[16:03] and they were like bro this is this is I don't know if I can swear but this is a BS like yay ever like they were like I don't believe you like you're lying to me I was like dude I swear to God I made 20k doing this

[16:16] and I we talked about it I literally showed him the math I was like this is all I do I just bet one side bet the other and I make a guaranteed profit yeah dude it was nuts I was

[16:28] it was definitely like it was pretty surprising to see that I my goal my starting goal was like 5k and it ended up being 20k that first month I was just like I don't know if I'm going to be able to sustain this but who knows?

[16:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah. So your goals were, I think month one you said 5K, month two 10K, month three 15K. Yeah. And then May, your first month you did 21 and June you did 20. They did three flats in May,

[16:52] so let's talk about that. Was there a week ever where you were just like, you know, maybe this is a little bit ugly or did you ever think like, here we go again, like we're flat going? What was kind of the difference between the 20K with accounts alive

[17:06] and you're like 3K a month before you joined the program. Can you repeat that again? What was the difference or what was your thought process from going from 21K a month or your first 21K a month

[17:20] to the 20K a month again in a year? Yeah, yeah. I was expecting to get limited because I was targeting a lot of alternate markets and stuff like that. So I was like, hey, let's see how sustainable this will be.

[17:33] And it ended up working out pretty well just based off the strategies you and I discussed and it allowed me to get another 20k a month not having to really give up a lot of those T2s to be honest.

[17:46] You know, the longevity of the account stayed alive. Like maybe it dropped like a couple hundred dollars from 500 to 300, but like I was still able to get down volume no problem. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

[17:58] All right. So let's dive into a little bit more about this actual like the programming stuff. Yeah. So you've tried arbitrage betting before, and we went over that. But what was the tangible difference?

[18:11] Why couldn't you get to 20K a month by yourself? Yeah, because I was using my already limited accounts pretty much at this point. I was just using some of the exchanges, a little bit of hard rock still,

[18:25] but couldn't get a ton of money down. And just lack of access to sportsbooks. I made an effort and I tried. I was using Vivata a little bit. Vivata limited me, and it was all pre-matched.

[18:38] So I was really just only getting, I don't know, like $20 down on one side, $20 on the other, and it really wasn't making me a massive return. Because pre-match, you don't get as much return on it.

[18:50] But, yeah, once we've talked, you and I, about the systems and how we can increase that number and obviously not only make like $1 off of like one ARB,

[19:05] it was definitely eye-opening. But yeah, initially it was tough, dude. Like it was definitely tough just not being able to get a bunch of money down because I have this bankroll that I want to just put down and I couldn't put it down. The books wouldn't let me.

[19:18] So a lot of courses out there, a lot of people that sell info, they just pre-record a bunch of videos and they give it to you and you're on your own. Yeah. So if that were the case for this program, which obviously it's not,

[19:31] would that have worked for you? Would you still have drawn the same results? That's such a good question. Probably some results, but not as good,

[19:43] because sometimes when you go through the models, you miss things, right? And you still have questions that you want to ask someone, and again, constantly having access to you, and you giving me the advice like,

[19:55] hey, let's stop, let's chill with the pre-match a little bit, let's just target live, let's do stoppage time, let's add some P2s in there, hear some advice on, like, talking to people about, you know,

[20:07] convincing them to let you use their account. So there's certain things that I was able to talk to you about that I may not be able to get just going through, like, a module course on how to do arbitrage vetting, and it definitely helped a lot, for sure.

[20:20] Cool. What was your favorite part about the program? Favorite part about the program? probably making money. I mean, no, no, I honestly, it was,

[20:32] the way that you, even like just with the models, the way that you list it out, it's like, you do it in a way where it's like, someone starting day one has no idea what they're doing can understand,

[20:44] you know, how to do arbitrage betting. Like, you don't need to be like in a situation that I was in, being, you know, using Odds Jam for a year and then trying to switch over to Odds. You don't need to do that with your system. which I thought was really unique.

[20:57] It's almost like looking up a YouTube video, something for dummies, like not calling people dumb or anything like that. I'm just saying you made it so easy for people to understand and follow, and I think that was what really helped.

[21:10] That's just what makes your course probably better than other people's. I don't know a lot of people that are doing this, to be honest, but yeah, yours was definitely really, really easy to follow for sure.

[21:22] Awesome. if you were to never have full insurance and never joined where would you be at right now hey man I probably be dealing with a lot of variance be a little bit stressed out about hey i want to have a month where i could write the first month

[21:37] nba season i got absolutely smoked uh i went down like 20k that first month of january um which you're gonna get you're gonna get it like not again not to say that plus ev betting is not

[21:50] to be profitable long term it's usually like that three to five percent ROI but it's it's you gotta play the variance a little bit and I just I someone like me like I don't love a lot of variance

[22:04] um and if there was another option to get away from that I would have taken it but yeah I'd probably just be stressing about you know am I going to have a good month this month am I going to be able to pay for the wedding like I think there are a few things you know maybe maybe not

[22:20] who knows, but just to know that I have a guaranteed way to make money long term, I took that. Awesome. So I kind of want to stray away from the sports betting side of things, away from the core side of things.

[22:32] As you, Nate, as a person, right, what are you the most proud of? In general first, and then maybe to dive into business. Most proud of, I'm definitely proud of, you know, being a homeowner, being able to provide

[22:46] for my fiance, you know, a lot of what I do is for her and being able to, like, start a family. Eventually, I think that's the biggest thing I'm proud of, being able to, I mean, just

[22:59] have, like, a really great career outside of using, you know, the arbitrage betting system, but also just coming up with multiple different ways to make money. You know, if you have a lot of different pools of, or a lot of different ways to make

[23:14] income, that's the best way to be successful long term. Whether that's investing in the stock market or using Odds Jam or your own 9 to 5. I'm really proud of my ability to

[23:29] create the life that I've created for myself. I think that's the biggest thing. Are you religious? Getting there. Yeah, getting there. My fiance is a Catholic and she basically had me read

[23:42] the whole bible from start to finish but uh i'm definitely convinced so yeah i am definitely religious now who's your god i'm jesus christ though people have their own religions i totally

[23:56] respect it but no i definitely was convinced for sure sounds good what has the money that you've made so far changed for you i don't worry about like finances really like i i i live i i feel that

[24:10] I live comfortable, you know, with the additional 20K I'm making from Oddstam, like, I, I, honestly, I feel blessed, like, I, I didn't think growing up I was going to be able to live this lifestyle

[24:24] that I live, and just, like, being in Florida, in, like, the, I, I personally think the most beautiful state in, in the U.S., but, yeah, man, like, just, I, I had no idea I was going

[24:38] be able to like live this lifestyle and I feel truly blessed. Awesome. Before you joined in March or April, now you're sitting here in Miami with me. We're about halfway through the start of August.

[24:52] Who were you before you joined versus the Nathan sitting in front of me right now? Definitely not as wealthy. Love it. Definitely not as wealthy. No, I mean, I think from a personality standpoint, I'm still the same guy.

[25:07] I still have the same friends, hang out with the same people that I hang out with. I see my family all the time. Luckily, I'm fortunate enough to have great parents that they live pretty close by.

[25:20] So nothing's changed a lot from just who I am today versus how I was before. Do you always have the same entrepreneurial mindset? Yeah, I would say I've always been definitely money motivated because I want to be able to provide, again, for a future family, for my fiance.

[25:36] say I would love to be able to retire my parents if I could. That would be pretty sick. I probably need to make a little more money for that. But, no, man, I definitely, again, I'm definitely fortunate and blessed that I'm in the situation I'm in.

[25:53] Yeah, 100%. So for you, what's the next goal in terms of arbitrage betting? Yeah. What do you want to do? So definitely want to continue arbitrage betting. I think the biggest thing that you and I have talked about is I definitely want to try to get into markets,

[26:10] like more main lines and alternate markets, because I think that's going to keep my P2 account longevity. The duration of it will last a little bit longer.

[26:22] One thing that I've really started to get into is just get access to more books, the offshore books specifically. Those help a lot, especially with live tennis and stuff like that. but just getting quicker at getting the money down on both sides I think is really what I'm

[26:38] trying to get into because I want this to work long term and then also maybe even trying to do some very very basic like like modeling with excel or something like that because I know with tennis

[26:51] it's a lot easier to model and you can just use excel because it's just 1v1 it's not like you have 10 different people on the court and there's some books that will you can literally just read up and it'll teach you how to do it.

[27:03] You don't have to like code or anything like that. But, and then also getting more into sharp money, which is way easier, obviously, than modeling or anything like that. But, yeah, we were talking about, you know,

[27:15] using sharp money a little bit more, especially on some of those accounts that are a little bit more limited. Even if it's like putting 25 bucks down on a player prop, like, why not? You know what I mean? Yeah. Last question for you, Nate. So I want you to talk to yourself in April

[27:29] before you go into the program. He's watching this video right now. such a 3 to 4K, maybe not even profitable yet, not getting limited, just wondering whether or not arbitrage is real, whether it's a scam, too good to be true.

[27:41] What would you say to them? I would say, honestly, just, like, trust the process. Like, just know that you're going to go through some, you know, some bumps along the way, but it's going to be 100% worth it.

[27:55] You're not going to be stressed out on a monthly basis about the variance. it's just a lot smoother of a ride as far as just making you know money long term

[28:07] when it comes to sports betting and just be patient with it because it does take time even before the 20k month during that those like 2-3 weeks prior

[28:19] where I only made like a thousand bucks that was a big time for me to just really learn and like just get better at the skill of just getting money down on both sides so once you just practice it I promise you

[28:32] it'll pay off that's the biggest thing to say ladies and gentlemen this is Nate Freeman with Arbitrage Academy wonderful to meet you guys yeah man absolutely likewise