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Trading with the Order Book: How to Achieve Massive Risk-Profit Ratios

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Advanced 10 min read For: Experienced traders interested in order book analysis and high-risk-profit trading strategies.
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The speaker argues that successful trading relies on order book analysis rather than chart patterns or indicators. He emphasizes that each trade is unique and must be evaluated based on real-time market data, with risk-profit ratios potentially exceeding 1:70.

[00:11]
Trading from Risk-Profit Perspective

Correct trading is about high-quality, well-timed trades based on risk-profit analysis, not arbitrary setups.

[00:44]
No Setups as Most Traders See Them

Setups based on indicator crossovers or multiple indicators are insane. Entry points should never be considered in isolation.

[01:13]
Each Trade is Unique

Every trade is individual. A trader must rely on factual data from the order book and chart, not predictions.

[01:45]
Trades Are in the Order Book

Profitable trades are found exclusively in the order book. Proper setup and understanding of order book data are essential.

[02:29]
Trader Must Understand Market

A trader must understand market dynamics, feel risks, and make decisions based on that understanding, not rigid strategies.

[03:01]
Colossal Risk-Profit Ratios

Risk-profit ratios can be huge, up to 1:70 or more, when using a guaranteed stop and free movement in the order book.

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Example Trade: Entry Based on Order Book

The speaker entered a trade after observing expected sizes appear in the order book, with a small stop and normal movement.

[08:30]
Example Trade: Sazi on Order Book

A trade based on a sazi (size imbalance) on the order book, with clear support and no strong aggression, leading to a good risk-profit ratio.

[12:27]
Example Trade: Blockage and Stages

A trade where a blockage and stages in the order book allowed a minimal stop and large movement, with ratio calculated relative to stop.

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Chart Trading Without Order Book is Impossible

Trading based solely on charts without understanding order book conditions cannot yield competent, high-ratio trades.

[15:32]
Human Factor and Missed Opportunities

Even with good analysis, human factors like timing can cause missed entries or exits. This is normal.

[17:32]
Behavior at Levels and Position Management

Knowing how price behaves at levels, if the trade doesn't develop, fix the position and wait for the next opportunity.

[18:28]
No Guaranteed Trades

Not every trade works out. If conditions don't develop, exit. This is normal market behavior.

[20:11]
Controlled Trading vs. Averaging

Trading should be controlled and based on understandable situations, not averaging or adding based on feelings.

[21:29]
Order Book is Critical

Understanding order book mechanics is critically important. Without it, finding profitable points with good ratios is impossible.

The speaker stresses that order book analysis is the foundation of high-quality trading, enabling massive risk-profit ratios. He encourages viewers to understand market mechanics and avoid relying on charts alone.

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What is the key to finding high-quality trades according to the speaker?

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Order book analysis, not chart patterns or indicators.

01:45

What risk-profit ratio does the speaker claim is possible?

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Up to 1:70 or more.

03:45

Why does the speaker say chart trading without order book is impossible?

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Because charts cannot provide the precise entry and stop levels needed for high-ratio trades.

13:38

What should a trader do if a trade does not develop as expected?

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Exit the trade and wait for the next opportunity.

18:28

What is the 'sazi' mentioned in the transcript?

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A size imbalance on the order book indicating potential support or resistance.

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💡 Key Takeaways

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Colossal Risk-Profit Ratios

Claims ratios up to 1:70 are achievable with order book analysis, challenging conventional trading wisdom.

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Chart Trading Without Order Book is Impossible

Strong statement that chart-only trading cannot produce competent high-ratio trades.

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No Guaranteed Trades

Emphasizes that not every trade works out and exiting is normal, a key risk management principle.

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Order Book is Critical

Summarizes the core message: order book understanding is essential for profitable trading.

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[00:11] today I would like to discuss trading. And from the point of view of risk-profit, correct trading is expressed, of course, in good, high-quality, correct situations in the right trades,

[00:27] situations in the right trades, and I would like to voice this point for a general understanding for the overall picture that in trading, in fact, there are no setups, I am only emphasizing in the

[00:44] I am only emphasizing in the sense that most traders see it. That is, if one line intersects with another line, if 10,000 indicators clash, then this is our entry point. It is absolutely

[01:00] insanity to trade like this and to evaluate trades like this. Entry points should never be considered. Each trade, as I said in the previous video, is unique,

[01:13] it is individual and the approach to trades should be. This is exactly how a trader, of course, does not know what will happen next and relies on everything and in know what will happen next and relies on everything and in all his trades. Strictly according to the

[01:28] facts, from the actual values ​​​​that he sees in the glass, sees on the BC chart, he adds this up, analyzes, accumulates and makes a decision to enter, and these are the right trades. They are, of course, will be

[01:45] exclusively only in the glass. In the glass, you need to understand it, set it up correctly, and then, given certain reasons for grouping these reasons, there is a probability of a good outcome for a

[02:01] good positive one, or even if it is negative, but the correct negative, but the correct outcome in the transaction is very important. And now I will show several of my transactions here, in principle, you can read here, let's say

[02:14] principle, you can read here, let's say called that. Although again, I do not adhere to any adhere to any strategies, I am a supporter of the fact that a trader,

[02:29] as a person, must understand what is happening in the market, must feel his risks and, based on this, make transactions, try to work out points, and all these transactions, they are in the glass, they are all actually

[02:43] identical. Here are my transactions, there are many of them, and there are several transactions of traders from our community. Type, you can subscribe to it. By the way, I will attach a picture here. They are similar and the meaning is

[03:01] that the risk profit in all these transactions is simply colossal. Never in your life will a simply colossal. Never in your life will a chart or indicators give you a high- quality stop in which you can exit and take a very, very large potential in relation to this stop, not

[03:17] exit and take a very, very large potential in relation to this stop, not will already be a good deal, but quite often Especially with volatility in an often Especially with volatility in an active market or with an understanding of the goal in a

[03:32] trade, if you understand where to stand, the risk of profit can be Well, risk of profit can be Well, huge, I'll say, I'll just huge, I'll say, I'll just shake up many people's minds, but it

[03:45] really can be one Well, I'll say at least 1 to p 1 to 70, although there is a situation when one to q and even more How does it work?

[03:57] You can ask yourself a question Yes, it's very simple when you have a guaranteed good stop and relative to this stop there is free movement on the glass according to the chart there are certain conditions you enter and With a ratio from a small

[04:13] peak there is normal movement this of course only in the glass never in life on the chart you will never see this on the chart It's simply It's simply impossible if the trader is not oriented

[04:27] if he does not look, then he just like the horse, he does not see anything for him the chart is impossible to tempo, he does not see anything for him the chart is impossible to tempo, so let's say it will always be a little bit different, always one candle will be larger and another candle

[04:42] will be smaller once it will go from exactly this point Another time from the twenty-fifth point from q fifth entry this is the reality point from q fifth entry this is the reality of trading it is exactly like this And if this is BC

[04:55] of trading it is exactly like this And if this is BC Compare with the bases in the glass, then Compare with the bases in the glass, then you don't have to guess which line you should enter or how long the candle should stretch for you to

[05:08] exit, everything works completely differently. And now I would like to show several points of transactions. The first transaction on the

[05:21] situation turned out, I watched it. I tried to enter here with a small volume, I here with a small volume, I threw beacons here and I understood what the threw beacons here and I understood what the

[05:37] Discord. I understand that the glass here is already at certain sizes

[05:55] that should appear and literally in a few minutes, this is a five-minute chart, this is a long chart, but in general, the size that I expected appears, which I would like to see in this glass. And as soon as it

[06:10] appears, I immediately begin to try to enter from this size and try to work this size, I work it out, work it out, or rather, even in the process. And I understand

[06:23] what the goal will be here, what the stop will be here. What are my risks, what can happen What are my risks, what can happen in this transaction.

[06:36] stretch it with a ruler here, or rather, you can't measure it. But here Somewhere here I suppose that I will stand with a small stop and with a normal

[06:56] movement, the deal is long. I will be a little behind so as not to waste time, I

[07:12] also like to show that I exited here, I almost waited until I reached my target, I almost waited until I reached my target, it took a long time to record, but I know the traders

[07:25] were standing with me and they took this deal deal completely, that is, they

[07:37] sat it out, the price reached somewhere to this level, this was the deal on that date. Here is my work and here is the work of the guys who

[08:01] sat it out and took the whole movement, but here is the moment, so to speak, individual characteristics of the trader, perhaps someone needs to sit longer, someone wants to move away early to close the deal, these are already such individual

[08:14] subtleties, but it turned out to take it as I turned out to take it as I initially wanted. So the next situation on

[08:30] Here again there was a sazi on the glass, you can see that on the spot there is also a collapse of you can see that on the spot there is also a collapse of these size sizes, there are size sizes on the Uche, they are standing on the these size sizes, there are size sizes on the Uche, they are standing on the spot from below, completely empty and this

[08:44] deal was announced by our trader from the community Gennady Frolov, he announced it right after We took this point into account during the briefing. It was We took this point into account during the briefing. It was approached here. You can see that the shortcut is point-blank.

[09:02] large ones, there was no strong aggression, and I decided to work this deal on a fifteen-hour chart. Now it will open here. You Now it will open here. You

[09:19] because you can open a fifteen-hour chart. You can see on October 12th. You can see on October 12th. LZ, it merges, it breaks through and goes lower. I LZ, it merges, it breaks through and goes lower. I decided to open in the same way and get on an

[09:33] update for an update of this zone, not a zone. Guys, and just so you not a zone. Guys, and just so you

[09:58] ratio. The minimum can be seen by the clusters that it was possible to enter point-blank. clusters that it was possible to enter point-blank. Here you can also see, here it was clear that it was

[10:16] point-blank, but here the coin is still worth a hundred. A setup is also forming here, and this is setup is also forming here, and this is a little defocus of attention, an OTV, and it prevented me from doing this, but it is even better, even

[10:47] indicated the graphic formation, it indicated its target, this movement turned out very well, I took it, it reached the target. I just had to turn it off. I'll attach a screenshot now, I'll show this screenshot.

[11:13] Traders from the community also took this point. Someone is

[11:25] think it's clear. You can calculate it yourself. If the risk is calculate it yourself. If the risk is out there, it will still take a certain amount of money. But if

[11:41] everything is done correctly and we go into erosion, we will take a unit of risk: one, two, erosion, we will take a unit of risk: one, two, well, two and a half, and calculate relative to this risk, where the price went, what was the

[11:57] ratio of the move. You can see this and move. You can see this and calculate it yourself. I think it's not calculate it yourself. I think it's not difficult. Now I'll show a deal by

[12:12] difficult. Now I'll show a deal by

[12:27] the bottom, there is a blockage, they are very clearly visible in the glass, you can see how here, in addition to the fact that there is a blockage, there are stages. It's clear. Where can you stand?

[12:42] there are stages. It's clear. Where can you stand? What will be the target? It enters very well. It opens very well, of

[12:55] set a stop and hide it. I I would set a stop. To be honest, I hid the stop somewhere in the middle between these sizes so that either the last one comes out or I hid the stop so that it is minimal.

[13:12] And in relation to this movement, in relation to this stop, you can calculate what it is. You can calculate what it is. They start to can calculate what it is. They start to substitute it according to

[13:38] movement just flies out. Guys, never in their life, under any Guys, never in their life, under any circumstances, trading according to the chart without understanding the entry conditions, without understanding why the participants are here, what is

[13:52] happening at all, without understanding the situation, without accumulating the grounds, so that these grounds preferably confirm your vision of this point, it is

[14:05] impossible to take such a movement competently, it is simply impossible and here the price flies away, the trader folds, it closed not very well, but

[14:17] closed not very well, but here 200 risks were justified. Well, not 200 of course. I'm already exaggerating, but very, very, very much.

[14:33] guys, support the channel, put likes, it really helps the development of information, in fact, there is not so much of this. I would even say there is little of it, and maybe even none. Where the points of movement are analyzed well and qualitatively,

[14:52] there is also a trader, a completely new, fresh deal, we analyzed it today, again, there are competent, obvious factual The values ​​are good, the basis is visible, though weak, I apologize for this, it is clear there is an option

[15:32] market, secondly, it is the human factor, somewhere you will not have time to chip in, this is absolutely normal, this is true, somewhere you will not have time to fix, somewhere you will not have time to add, this is normal here too. Unfortunately, despite the fact that a very good

[15:45] Unfortunately, despite the fact that a very good movement took place, a very good movement took place, to fix in this deal and it failed, he had to exit without a

[15:59] failed, he had to exit without a break-even at this

[16:12] good quality entry, naturally, a clear goal. It is clear where the price should go, we know how the mechanics work, we know what will happen here, we know and understand how other market participants will act.

[16:26] Based on this, we make a decision on entry and exit from a position, everything is very competent, logical, exit from a position, everything is very competent, logical,

[16:59] ends, there is there are the Azov guys, they are scoring a pot. I just find it funny how you can even

[17:14] make any deals at all. If you You don't see it, it's random. When it's not random, everything is completely different. They hammer in the spot.

[17:32] slow down near the level. You can see what to pin down. We know how to behave at levels. What's there? It can happen in exactly the same way. If the price doesn't develop, you fix the position and wait for the next

[17:55] all points can go, not all points can work out, significant global mistakes. If the deal doesn't go, you don't overpower, you eat, you don't

[18:15] stretch, you don't do that. If the deal doesn't go, you understand that this point didn't work out, it didn't give you a normal ratio, the

[18:28] situation doesn't develop, and you just get out of this situation. And that's it. And the point ends its existence, and as I said, no

[18:40] deal is guaranteed to be executed. This is normal. This is the market. Imagine that there is money here, not pictures that intersect because of this movement, they pour money into you. Everything is exactly the same in the participants. The participants have

[18:55] different goals, these participants have different goals. Ele, the participants are different. And if the trader interacts with one of the participants or with a group, it's different. If the participants don't get results, the trader simply exits the trade, closes it, and it

[19:11] exits the trade, closes it, and it ends. Here we have ends. Here we have practices for practicing setups, practicing patterns, and also the trades that I talked about recently at BNT,

[19:25] we were standing there, several of us were at this point, now the bottom. It's somewhere around here, it was somewhere around here. Yes, there are actually a lot of practices,

[19:40] guys, we share experiences. Here's my practice at experiences. Here's my practice at LZ. This is Sasha's practice. In the same way, we entered and took this point. Here's another one. That is,

[19:57] entered and took this point. Here's another one. That is, we see all this we see all this and try to participate in adequate, understandable situations. This is a little different. Trading is not just

[20:11] averaging based on feelings or adding based on based on communication, not breaking out lines with a slope with an incomprehensible risk, but rather controlled and understandable situations. If it

[20:25] doesn't go, then you exit the trade, you exit the trade, this is normal. Every trader can make a mistake, but it's not critical and not scary. This is also the

[20:41] situation here. This is just a situation that didn't go. What it looks like when it doesn't go, we will not talk about where the trader should have entered, about how it would have been

[20:53] correct to work. It doesn't matter here. The situation, the conditions are right, the trader is trying to take a rebound, the rebound doesn't go, he Fixi

[21:05] go, he Fixi and gets out of and gets out of his

[21:29] useful to you. I hope you understand a little about the mechanics and logic of the interaction of the order book. How important it is. It's critically important. Without it, you will never be able to

[21:41] find a profitable point with a good ratio. Trading in general is just one of the most important foundations of trading - quality trades, but it should not be

[21:57] so far- fetched. You should not assume that the trade will go somewhere, and your risk is small. No, all this should be confirmed by the order book, confirmed by the

[22:09] confirmed by the order book, confirmed by the chart, understanding, and this will already be good, logical, correct

[22:24] Subscribe. Like it. Write what trades you like. What trades you make. What do you like? What kind of trading do you understand? And

[22:37] What kind of trading do you understand? And we'll see and discuss everything, guys. Thanks, I'm

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