Hulk's Fate After Brand New Day
44sTaps into fan curiosity about a beloved character's future, with a shocking reveal that Banner is in a psychiatric ward.
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The video analyzes the fate of Bruce Banner/Hulk after the events of Spider-Man: Brand New Day, theorizing about his imprisonment, the mutant saga's origin, and his role in future Avengers films. It connects Banner's inhibitor device, the snap in Endgame, and the emergence of mutants to propose a unified narrative for the MCU's next phases.
The video discusses the Hulk scenes in Spider-Man: Brand New Day, noting that Bruce Banner's depressing fate was overshadowed by the euphoric Hulk moments. It sets up the analysis of where Hulk will appear next.
Bruce Banner is now a professor at Empire State University, lecturing on Lattice Quantum Chromodynamics. He explains his wrist inhibitor device that targets mRNA to suppress gamma radiation, preventing transformation into Hulk.
Jean Grey inhabits Bruce Banner, breaking his inhibitor device, causing him to transform into Smart Hulk. However, suppressed Savage Hulk emerges, leading to a fight with Spider-Man.
Savage Hulk's mind was unaffected by Doctor Strange's memory wipe spell, and he remembers Spider-Man. Hulk lets go and reverts to Banner, who is taken into custody.
A news report says Banner is being transferred to a psychiatric ward, but the video argues this is a cover story by the DODC. The question 'What finally snapped?' is highlighted as a key clue.
The video argues Banner is taken into custody without his inhibitor chip, as Peter kept one and the other was on Jean. This makes containment risky, suggesting a high-security facility.
Two possible prisons are suggested: the DODC Supermax in Yuka Valley (from She-Hulk) and The Raft (from Captain America: Brave New World). The Raft is considered more secure.
The line 'What finally snapped?' connects to Banner's snap in Endgame. The video theorizes that the snap's energy activated mutant genes in 0.5% of the population, explaining the emergence of mutants.
The video suggests that Tony Stark and Bruce Banner's snaps in Endgame are the trigger for the mutant saga, linking the Infinity Saga to the future. This gives Banner an elder statesman role.
Banner's warning to Peter about controlling gene expression is seen as the core thematic question of the mutant saga: 'What if you're trying to control the expression of something that needs to be expressed?'
The video theorizes that The Raft may be transported to Battleworld in Secret Wars, where Hulk could be freed and live as Savage Hulk, similar to his time on Sakaar.
Banner's lecture on Lattice QCD is compared to Reed Richards' calculations. The video suggests Banner and Richards may work together on technology to prevent incursions, possibly using Franklin Richards' powers.
The video concludes that Banner will survive Doomsday, be freed from The Raft, and become a key figure in the mutant saga, possibly as a mentor or 'godfather' to mutants.
The video presents a detailed theory that Bruce Banner's snap in Endgame triggered the mutant gene, making him a central figure in the upcoming mutant saga. It predicts his imprisonment in The Raft and his eventual role in Battleworld, setting up his return in future Avengers films.
What is the purpose of Bruce Banner's wrist inhibitor device?
It targets specific mRNA replication and silences certain genes to disperse gamma radiation, preventing transformation into Hulk.
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Why did Jean Grey have headaches when possessing Banner?
Because the suppressed Savage Hulk in Banner's subconscious resisted her control.
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What is the significance of the line 'What finally snapped?' in the news report?
It hints that Banner's snap in Endgame may have triggered the mutant gene, explaining the emergence of mutants.
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Name two possible locations where Bruce Banner could be imprisoned.
The DODC Supermax in Yuka Valley and The Raft.
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What is Lattice QCD?
A branch of theoretical physics that uses 3D color mapping to visualize gluons holding subatomic particles together.
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The Snap as Mutant Trigger
This is the central theory of the video, linking Endgame's snap to the mutant saga.
07:33Thematic Question of Mutant Saga
Banner's warning about controlling gene expression is a profound thematic statement.
09:43Hulk in Battleworld
Predicts Hulk's role in Secret Wars, connecting to his Sakaar history.
10:08[00:01] end of Spider-Man Brand New Day? And how will he return in Avengers Doomsday or Rockstars channel. And the Hulk scenes in Spider-Man: Brand New Day were for many of us the high point of the film, leaving us with such euphoric joy that
[00:15] we missed the very depressing fate of Bruce Banner that left our boy Ned weeping. But there was one detail in here that not only tells us where we will see Hulk next, but also gives us the big answer that we've been seeking
[00:27] for how Gan Gray is launching the mutant saga in this universe and Hulk's big role in Doomsday and Secret Wars. Allow me to explain. But before I do, we have available at our merch store, nerdwrite.shop. Specifically, shirts
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[00:52] selfies and tag us like Shellyley, Chris, Elena, a Switch, Sam, No Bowser, Michael, and our birthday boy Justin. Okay. In Spider-Man: Brand New Day, Peter Parker tracks down Bruce Banner, who is now a professor at Empire State
[01:04] University, lecturing about sexy, thrilling topics like Latis quantum chronodnamics. He says, "Through Latis chronoddonamics, we can arrange time and simulate the quirks binding into the protons." Then Bruce gets immediately
[01:18] interrupted by a question from Cindy. We think it's Cindy Moon about the Avengers battle with Thanos in Avengers Infinity War. She says, "If Thanos was so worried about overpopulation, why didn't he just use the magic glove to make more food?"
[01:30] reintroducing us to Bruce Banner with the question of Thanos's snap. Remember that. After class, Bruce and Peter discuss Bruce's wrist inhibitor device and how it works by targeting specific mRNA replication and silencing certain
[01:44] genes. In Bruce's case, dispersing the gamma radiation that comes from his DNA in order to keep his flesh from turning into the green Hulk body. Basically, to Banner warns Peter that any such automatic universal mutating gene
[01:57] inhibitor device would be extremely dangerous. Basically, Bruce Banner is the Albert Einstein of the MCU, warning the J. Robert Oppenheimer about the everything. In this case, a mutant inhibitor collar that I think we will
[02:11] throughout the mutant saga. Gan Gray inhabits Bruce Banner and breaks his inhibitor device, causing him to turn into a smart Hulk form to break into the DoDc building downtown. Gene struggles to do this, going into some headaches
[02:24] that don't normally happen when she inhabits regular folks. And it's because suppressed in Hulk's subconscious, that of Savage Hulk. So, even when Banner forces Gene out of his mind, it was actually the doing of that other
[02:37] transitions Banner into the OG Savage Hulk. >> No Banner, only Hulk. >> Spider-Man struggles to contain Savage Hulk in this thrilling fight as Peter's new inhibitor chip won't stick to Hulk's
[02:50] thick skin. But Peter does get some hits using Shocker's gauntlet, or as the DODC calls it, Gauntlet X. And Hulk breaks that gauntlet and nearly crushes Peter. But Peter helps Hulk remember who he is. And it seems as though Savage Hulk
[03:03] Spider-Man, that this Savage Hulk mind was unaffected by Doctor Strange's memory wipe spell. And Hulk lets go and allows himself to fall. Hulk reverts to his human form. And as Banner is wheeled away by paramedics, he asks, "Was anyone
[03:16] And that's the last we see of Banner until the later scene when Ned watches a news report about this and the reporter says, "The Hulk, aka Dr. Dr. Bruce Banner is in custody, currently being transferred to a psychiatric ward after
[03:30] years as a peaceful academic. The question the world asks today is, "What finally snapped?" Now, fun detail here. On Ned's screen on his right, he's Specifically, the scene where the AT-AT collapses on Hoth after Luke Skywalker
[03:43] trips it with the toe cables. The scene that Peter Parker referenced in Captain Ant-Man's giant form in the same way. And while watching the Bruce Banner news report, Ned says, "So sad." and he wipes away a tear. So, a psychiatric ward,
[03:57] that's not a fair fate for an esteemed avenger or a professor at Empire State University. It's also not much of a realistic sentence, nor is it where Bruce Banner is actually going in my opinion. Spend long enough on YouTube
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[05:30] To get 50% off your system. The only way Bruce Banner could stay in any kind of custody or psychiatric care would be if Peter Parker gave the DODC and other authorities his proprietary inhibitor chip technology. Remember, we saw Peter
[05:43] kept for himself and the other one he wanted to stick on Gan Gray that for a time he was trying to latch on to Bruce Banner, but at the time of Bruce's detainment, that chip was on Gene. Now later, the DODC appears to have reverse
[05:57] final act of this movie all happens relatively fast. After Gene and Banner's arrests, Peter immediately swings back to the boat with MJ. And then there's a that, they go hang out with Ned. And during that conversation, Peter realizes
[06:11] that Mezer lied and then he immediately goes to rescue Gene from the Roosevelt Island DODC facility. That all goes down within like 12 hours. So, I don't think like a third chip. So, that means that Bruce Banner was taken to wherever he is
[06:25] chipless. No chips on this guy. He's just kind of freeballing it. And so the felt comfortable to contain someone with Bruce Banner's power set without any locations that we know about or perhaps
[06:38] option is the DODC Supermax detention center in Yaka Valley, California in the desert. Seen in She-Hulk and in Wonderman. This facility was able to contain Emil Blonsky aka Abomination. The second option is the raft from
[06:51] in Captain America: Brave New World, which is currently containing the Red Now, of course, the raft wasn't previously under the jurisdiction of surprised if this government agency was given authority over that facility. Now,
[07:06] so I think the story that Ned heard on the news was just a cover story given by the DoD to the media in order to keep Yolain Bova or Sam Wilson or Scott Lang released. But whether it's the Yucka Valley prison or the raft or a third
[07:20] station for example or just some place we don't know about yet. Obviously Banner isn't going to stay in that prison forever. So let's look at the second line in the news report. The question the world asks today is what
[07:33] finally snapped? You don't write a line like that into a Marvel movie when it comes to Bruce Banner in the MCU. He's one of three characters and the only one left alive who has snapped all six Infinity Stones. That's why I think this
[07:47] movie also included Cindy Moon asking this one individual with experience with this cosmic transition how that decision-making logic worked. I think Banner as the Alfred Einstein to the Jay Robert Oppenheimer of anti-mutant
[08:00] the mutants, people born with their genetic condition, the mutant gene or the Xgene to the mutates, people born normally whose DNA was altered sometime after their birth by some kind of
[08:12] bloodstream like Peter Parker and Bruce Banner. And in doing this, they make Bruce Banner and Tony Stark the kind of tinkering madmen whose actions kicked off both the Multiverse Saga and the Mutant Saga with the snaps. Banner
[08:24] snapping everyone who dusted back into existence and Stark making the sacrifice of existence. If Marvel Studios is going cause of the sudden activation of mutant genes in 0.5% of the population of this
[08:38] if, the studio could just say the like a natural evolutionary process. And if they do say that, boring. But if they point to a trigger event that changed
[08:50] everything to explain why mutants were super rare and virtually non-existent in the MCU before Endgame, but starting to emerge now with Gan Gray and probably others, then pointing to the biggest Marvel movie of all time, the movie
[09:03] everyone saw would be the smartest and most straightforward plan. I mean, after all, it was Stark and Banner's Madness that invented Ultron. So, it just be franchise to say, "Hey, remember when Iron Man and Hulk snapped in Endgame?
[09:16] that also woke up mutants. And by making Stark and Banner, the ones who did that, it links everything with the future in the mutant saga with everything in the past in the Infinity Saga. And it gives Bruce Banner an ongoing elder statesman
[09:29] forward. In this movie, Bruce Banner warns Peter, "How would you decide? bad? What if you're trying to control the expression of something that needs to be expressed?" I mean, is that not the core thematic question of the mutant
[09:43] saga? So, how will Hulk escape whatever DODC prison he's in? Let's flip a coin raft and the Yuckah Valley desert prison, considering there was just a facility in the final scene of Wonderman, authorities would be more
[09:56] likely to put Banner in the raft, the same place where they're keeping the far more secure. It's in the middle of the ocean. I'm not the first person to theorize this, but when Battle World forms at the end of Doomsday, maybe one
[10:08] of the things that Dr. Doom transports from Earth 616 to preserve this one container of enhanced beings that he wants to populate his new Latvian world aka battle world with would be the raft. Maybe this raft facility is used by some
[10:21] of the survivors of Earth 616 as a literal life raft. So I think either way and how he would just be more prominently featured in Avengers Secret Avengers call Battle World. I mean at this point I'm sure you've seen the Hulk
[10:36] version of that will be part of battle world in this banner freed from his raft container cell and with no inhibitor technology will end up living in his he spends years in a hostile environment as we saw on Sakar and Thor Ragnarok and
[10:51] that is his savage Hulk state. So finally let's return to what Bruce was through lattice chronamics we can arrange time and space in a grid which allows us to simulate the quirks binding into the protons. Latis QCD is a branch
[11:05] of theoretical physics that uses 3D color mapping to visualize the gluons that hold subatomic particles together. I feel like Bruce Banner is lecturing math that Reed Richards is calculating over in his 828 universe. The kind of
[11:18] mastered. I think Doom has already practically arranged time and space into Doomsday. Actually, there was a detail that I neglected to mention in the weeks the week of San Diego Comic- Con when Kevin Feige appeared at Billy Billy
[11:33] World in Shanghai. One of the expo displays for Avengers Doomsday showed movie. And among those equations, you can see Reed's calibration list for some machine he's building to try to save off incursions. On the list, we see on-site
[11:46] heat capture arrays checked. Space dissipation field generator checked. On-site atmospheric stabilizers, not checked. Magnetosphere reinforcers not checked. Geothermic sinks checked. Custal energy deposits not checked and
[12:01] momentum transfer regulator checked. I mean these kind of sound like propulsive multiple Earths with different instruments to sustain the major structural elements of each Earth which would include the atmosphere, its
[12:15] momentum, its crust, its core electromagnetic field, its heat, its colliding with another Earth and like to absorb and redirect the impact. So, in Richards working together with Bruce Banner, building on the mathematics and
[12:30] video, will provide the technological process by which Reed's son, Franklin Richards, can use his mutant magic to rebuild that Verion into the restored start when Bruce Banner survives the events of Doomsday in the raft that the
[12:45] DoD actually just imprisoned him in and starts whatever civilization he likes in godfather of the mutants in the mutant saga. Comment down below with your thanks to one of our in our underground subscribers, Ethan Chesters, for
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