Why People Hate The Last Jedi — Full Breakdown & Transcript

Why We Can't Agree About The Last Jedi (Or Art In General)

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Intermediate 6 min read For: Film enthusiasts, students of literary theory, and Star Wars fans interested in understanding critical analysis and audience reception.
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"The title promises an analysis of why people hate The Last Jedi, and the video delivers a thoughtful, theory-based explanation, though it spends significant time on setup and a sponsor segment."

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This video analyzes the divergent fan reactions to 'The Last Jedi' through the lens of reader response theory, arguing that viewers' interpretations are shaped by their membership in 'interpretive communities.' The creator uses this framework to explain why some fans felt the film 'disrespected the franchise' and offers a personal reading of Luke Skywalker's death as a meaningful inversion of the original trilogy's themes.

[00:00]
The Last Jedi's Three Perspectives

The film presents a critical scene from three different perspectives (Luke's lie, Kylo's version, and the 'truth'), mirroring the disagreement between fans who liked and hated the movie.

[00:27]
The Question of Execution

The video addresses the common critique that the film's problems lie in execution, not just plot structure, and asks how viewers determine what constitutes well-executed storytelling.

[01:44]
Introduction to Reader Response Theory

Reader response theory is a literary theory that analyzes how audiences interact with a text, focusing on the reader's role in creating meaning.

[02:53]
Stanley Fish and Interpretive Communities

Stanley Fish's 1976 paper 'Interpreting the Variorum' argues that meaning is a result of our interpretations, and he later introduced the concept of 'interpretive communities' where people share interpretive strategies and come to similar conclusions.

[04:23]
Janice Radway's Study of Romance Readers

Radway's book 'Reading the Romance' studied 42 romance novel readers, finding they read rapidly, skipped to the end, ignored literary style, identified with heroines, and had prescriptive criteria (e.g., no unhappy endings).

[05:23]
Star Wars Fandom as an Interpretive Community

The Star Wars fandom is a strong interpretive community with specific criteria for what makes a good Star Wars film, and the film's 'unforgivable sin' was that it 'disrespected the franchise' by violating the core fantasy of epic heroism.

[07:09]
Understanding Your Own Reactions

The video encourages viewers to recognize that their gut reactions are influenced by their interpretive community and pre-existing standards, and that these are never universal.

[08:20]
Luke's Death as a Meaningful Inversion

The creator offers a personal reading of Luke's death, seeing it as overcoming depression and internal struggle, and notes the film inverts the original 'binary sunset' shot to symbolize rebirth and a new hope.

The video concludes that understanding why we like or dislike a film often reveals more about ourselves than the film itself, and that interpretive communities shape our reactions. It offers a personal, positive reading of Luke's death as a meaningful thematic conclusion.

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Meaning is subjective

Introduces the core concept that all interpretations are a result of our own perspectives, challenging the idea of objective meaning.

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Interpretive communities shape reactions

Explains why groups of people often share similar opinions, providing a framework for understanding fan divisions.

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Star Wars fandom's prescriptive criteria

Demonstrates how a specific community's expectations can determine whether a film is judged as good or bad.

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Luke's death as overcoming depression

Offers a personal, thematic reading that reframes a controversial moment as meaningful and resonant.

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[00:00] In The Last Jedi, we're shown a critical scene from three different perspectives. Luke's lie about what happened, Kylo's version of the events, and then what we assume is the truth.

[00:14] These characters can't agree on the basic facts of what happened. There's a similar problem between the people who liked this movie and the ones who hated it, who often feel like they have seen completely different films.

[00:27] And it's weird that art is like this. Today I want to look at why. I got a lot of comments on my last video where I argued that the film had a basic level of dramatic competency.

[00:39] And many of the comments said, That's all well and good, but ticking boxes does not a good story make. The real problem with The Last Jedi is in the execution. And in case it wasn't clear in that video, yes, I agree that simply answering the seven questions I brought up in that video doesn't automatically mean you have a great story.

[00:59] Those questions are a starting point. It's more like if you don't answer any of them, your story will lack energy. If you do answer them, great. There's a thousand more steps to go before you're done. My channel wouldn't exist if it was otherwise.

[01:12] But as to the notion that this film has bad execution, that is the question of this video, because how do we determine what constitutes well-executed? How do viewers form an opinion of a film when they like some parts of it but hate others?

[01:27] How do they choose what to value and prioritize, and when do they make those choices? These are big questions that I will not fully answer by the end of the video, but if we're even to begin to investigate them, we have to talk about something called reader response theory,

[01:44] which means I'll have to stop using my theory textbook as a mic stand and actually do some reading. So what is reader response theory? Well, it's a type of literary theory.

[01:57] Literary theories are a bunch of different ways of analyzing literature, or in this case, you can extend it to film or art in general. Think of them as lenses you can look through that will reveal different meanings in the text.

[02:11] Now, these may seem pretty dry, and they are, but it's also what gets you beyond merely saying that a story is good or bad. So this handy little diagram is a nice summation of how these theories operate and interrelate.

[02:25] Some analyze the text's relationship to the context of its creation and what it says about the world, while others analyze the work by what it says about the artist. But today we're looking at how audiences interact with a piece of fiction,

[02:38] and to do that we'll need the help of Stanley Fish. Sorry, no, Stanley Fish. He's a literary critic at the forefront of the reader response theory movement, in large part because of his 1976 paper, Interpreting the Veriorum,

[02:53] where he argues that we can't be sure about what a text is saying because everything we think it's saying is a result of our own interpretations. And since we make decisions while interpreting a text filling in its ambiguities we are writing the text while we read it As a result meaning is different for every person

[03:14] Or is it? The biggest critique against reader response theory is that if we're saying that every single person's reading of a text is valid, then it's impossible to have any sort of conversation about art.

[03:26] because you can say that the Iliad is really about man's anxiety over extraterrestrial invasion or whatever you like because according to reader response theory, whatever you get out of the text is the text. But Mr. Fish has an answer, which he explains in an expansion to his original article.

[03:42] People usually don't have entirely unique readings of a text. We're more likely to fall into camps with other people who have come to the same conclusions. Fish calls these camps interpretive communities.

[03:55] He says that an interpretive community is made up of those who share interpretive strategies, not for reading in the conventional sense, but for writing a text, for constituting their properties and assigning their intentions.

[04:09] So, basically, an interpretive community is predisposed to come to the same conclusions about a text because they've used the same methods to analyze it. Since its introduction in the 1960s and 70s, real response theory has been used

[04:23] not just for academic readings of a text, but to study the ways general audiences and niche and fan cultures consume media. For example, in her book, Leading the Romance, Janice Radway studied the reading practices of 42 lower-middle-class women who primarily read romance novels.

[04:39] She observed that these readers read rapidly, often skipping to the end, pay no attention to literary style, identify strongly with characters, especially heroines, and care most about story and plotline.

[04:51] plotline. They share strong dislikes, which is to say that they have prescriptive criteria. No violent heroes, weak heroines, pornography, unhappy or ambiguous ending. Essentially, anything that got in the way of the core fantasy of being vicariously swept up in an epic romance

[05:07] was just plain bad writing for these readers. For readers outside of that group, those books hold almost no meaning at all. But for readers inside of that group, a book with the most beautiful prose imaginable could still be bad if it failed to serve their need for escapist fantasy.

[05:23] Ahem. Now, I've read hundreds of your comments from my last video and watched hours of fan-made reviews of The Last Jedi, and it's amazing how consistent the complaints are. The Star Wars fandom is a very

[05:36] strong interpretive community with extremely specific prescriptive criteria for what makes a good film, and more importantly, what makes a good Star Wars film. And I think that the most significant criteria that The Last Jedi failed to meet, according to this community,

[05:51] its unforgivable sin, is that it, quote, disrespected the franchise. And I think what that phrase really means is that this movie screwed up the core fantasy of Star Wars. So when Luke

[06:03] Skywalker says, I think what I going to walk out with a razor sword and face down on the whole first order A sizable portion of the audience is like yes that is exactly what I want you to do It is literally the only reason I here

[06:17] Star Wars is supposed to be about feeling like you're living the life of an epic hero on a whimsical adventure through space that's supposed to be fun and exciting. It can get pretty dark at times, but the heroes are always heroes.

[06:29] The Last Jedi, on the other hand, was about guilt, trauma, disappointment, failure, child slavery, disappointment, murder, disappointment, and Pokemon?

[06:42] Like, I understand why fans said, what the hell is all this depressing stuff doing in my Whiz Dang Flash Gordon fanfic? I can synthesize with that. At some point in the film, whether it's the introduction of Luke as a curmudgeon

[06:54] who would casually throw away a lightsaber, or later when Rey learns her parents are no one, there is a breaking point where fans turn against the movie because it has actively, even deliberately, violated their list of prescriptive criteria.

[07:09] And that's okay. I'm not making this video to tell you how to feel about this movie. Every method of interpretation conceals as much as it reveals, mine included. I'm making this video to hopefully help you understand why you feel the way you do about this movie, and about movies in general,

[07:24] and the extent to which other people and their methods of interpretation have influenced what you feel is a gut reaction. It's fine to dislike a film because it did not meet your pre-existing standards, but it may also be useful to you to recognize that that's the case, to be aware of the context in which you're viewing something, because it's never the only context.

[07:44] That's what makes writing so difficult, because especially like to develop principles that will help make a story good, those goalposts are always changing based on the audience and are never universal to begin with. So, to return to the critique of, it was badly executed, the questions I'd ask are, which part? These ones? Okay.

[08:03] Well, why does that matter to you more than everything else? The answers will tell you more about yourself than they will about the movie. But to end things here, I want to offer my own reading of the film, specifically on the one part of it that I think is most responsible for creating the division among fans.

[08:20] The death of Luke Skywalker. Because if Luke had gone down in a blaze of glory, I think many people would have overlooked the film's other shortcomings. But he didn't. And I'm happy that he didn't. Here's why.

[08:35] How do we find the courage to fight when everything good we accomplish is undone? That's the issue at the core of Luke's character in this film. Just as the galaxy has been taken again by the forces of evil, so too has he by the temptation to do evil.

[08:50] These things are cyclical in the Star Wars universe, and if the game is rigged, Luke wants out. And yet, he returns, and in doing so overcomes the only force in the galaxy he hasn't already conquered, himself.

[09:04] His fears, guilts, and anxieties. I can think of no better visual representation of overcoming depression than seeing Luke walk out of the darkness to a field of fire to face his past mistakes in the bright light of day There is one shot in the original Star Wars film that cemented a generation connection to Luke Skywalker

[09:25] You know the one. This one. Consider the cinematic language on display here. We're looking across the frame from left to right, which in film evokes the idea of looking towards the future. And what does he see? Death.

[09:37] We're in a desolate desert where nothing can grow, especially Luke, who just found out he's stuck here for another year. And what's more, he's watching the sun set. What little light and hope he has for a bright future is swiftly sliding away.

[09:52] It's a brilliant and moving little moment, and like so much of the Star Wars myth, The Last Jedi inverts it to create a moment of equal resonance. He's on a mountaintop now, a landscape symbolic of enlightenment in contrast to his earlier innocence.

[10:07] He's looking from right to left, looking back at the meaning of his life. And what does he see now? Rebirth. For a moment, in what has to be some sort of hallucination, he sees the twin sons of Tatooine, explicitly calling back to this moment, but they're rising now, not setting.

[10:22] And in that moment he has peace and purpose, because in a single action he has facilitated the rebirth of the Rebellion. And not him exactly, but the image of him. The fact that he is a living legend, the literal embodiment of the story of Star Wars itself that stops evil in its tracks.

[10:41] The story of him, of the original trilogy, reignites the rebellion, not anything he destroyed. The film denies us the catharsis of violence in this moment, even if that would have appeased us. Rose's line about saving what you love instead of destroying what you hate, as misplaced as it may feel in the moment, may as well be a eulogy for Luke.

[10:59] In overcoming himself, Luke gives the Rebellion and us what he was always promised to provide. A new hope.

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