Apple's Wearable AI Pin Sounds Cringe - WAN Show January 23, 2026

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[00:18] you guys today. Apple is reportedly working on an AI wearable pin because that worked so well the times that other companies tried to do it. I mean, who knows? Apple does tend to do that. They take something other people do kind of

[00:32] crappily and they do it better. If only anybody wanted that. >> yeah, >> uh Sony has given up 51% of its Bravia

[00:44] TV business to China's TCL in a new strategic partnership, which sounds an awful lot more like a uh [clears throat] strategic uh well, you know what, when your business. [ __ ] I'm just saying that Sony doesn't control their TV

[01:00] that Sony doesn't control their TV business anymore, which is wild to me as What else we got? >> That was wild. Speaking of wild, uh, and companies maybe like kind of not existing anymore.

[01:15] maybe like kind of not existing anymore. Ubisoft just >> Yeah, I just I couldn't tell if our chair isn't okay. Ubisoft. chair isn't okay. Ubisoft. [laughter]

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[02:32] another one, but that's all I'm contractually obligated to do. What do we want to get into first? How about we jump right into Apple reportedly working jump right into Apple reportedly working on an AI wearable pin? The information,

[02:47] great domain, by the way. Great snag, the information.com. Fantastic work with that, you guys. The information reports that Apple is working on an AI powered that Apple is working on an AI powered wearable pin. The pin's tech features

[03:02] are speculated to be many. Packed with two cameras, including a standard and wide-angle lens, three microphones, a speaker, and a physical button. Its

[03:14] shell is rumored because this is all >> functionally pure speculation at this point. Its shell is rumored to be aluminum and glass with a magnetic inductive charger like the Apple Watch.

[03:28] And the target size is apparently a little thicker than an Air Tag with about the same circumference. Can I interrupt myself for one moment here? Yes, sure. No problem, Lionus. Go

[03:42] ahead. Thank you. Um, I would like to point out that if Apple does go ahead and make this out of metal, aluminum is a light metal, but it's metal. Um, and a light metal, but it's metal. Um, and glass, which is rocks. Um,

[03:57] thank you for that. Yes. Let's flash our >> No, the AI pin. >> Very deep. [laughter] >> You really You really centered it on that one. Just >> I mean, is it any deeper than I usually

[04:11] >> Yeah. Well, [laughter] they have these great ads on these fantastic websites about, you know, improving your ability to, you know, what the point [laughter] is that this

[04:25] wouldn't be the first time that Apple made a device that needs to be light for made a device that needs to be light for its use case. And they just need to make >> more. Yeah. And [laughter] what if it was made of metal and glass?

[04:41] Um, anyway, to be clear, none of this is confirmed, but I hope that they would light if it is intended to be worn as a pin of any sort. Uh, it seems that Apple

[04:53] is wanting this wearable to compete with a product that is coming from OpenAI's collaboration with Joanie IV later in 2026. However, uh, allegedly the Apple product is not likely to launch until 2027.

[05:06] Um, our discussion question here is apparently Apple plans to produce around 20 million units at launch. Is that a realistic number of AI pins given how

[05:18] other AI pins have catastrophically failed? And maybe the bigger conversation here is what would you even want from an AI pin? What would be a useful AI pin to you? I have noticed two separate people uh

[05:34] I have noticed two separate people uh that I know really deep diving AI stuff recently. And I okay, I don't mean uh getting really into like how it all works and stuff like that. I mean really just letting it take over their lives

[05:46] just letting it take over their lives completely. Um including like some pretty important things just being left to like the AI autopilot as far as I can tell. I got to know. You got to you don't have to name any names but

[05:58] like like what are we talking meals? Are we talking how to talk to their spouse >> Yeah. >> Okay. So these are very important >> Meals honestly I think for a lot of people meals are not a deep dive for AI

[06:12] >> Pretty common >> like Okay. So probably shouldn't do that in my experience. [laughter] recommends something other than chicken, which

[06:25] >> everyone knows is the 100% success meal. >> Yeah. Yeah. I you know, my meal plan might just be actually even more chicken >> moving forward. eat more chicken? >> Less rice.

[06:40] >> Less rice. More chicken. Okay. >> Uh uh. Good. Uh good. Um [laughter] sorry. I'm just trying to I'm trying to find something because I tried to use AI

[06:52] find something because I tried to use AI for not quite the first time, but one of out? >> Oh, no, not that one. >> I know that needs to come out at some point, but that separate conversation.

[07:06] >> Okay. Uh, so I I I was in this ultimate fighting bots like robot fight thing and fighting bots like robot fight thing and I'm trying to find the freaking um UFB

[07:18] robot. What? What? What? >> Hold on. >> Okay. Anyway, I was in it and I had to look up who one of the other competitors was because they, you know, they were super cool, they were super nice, but it

[07:31] was one of those things where I like I didn't catch their name at the very beginning and we were hanging out for long enough that it reached the point where it was going to be kind of embarrassing if I had to ask again. Um,

[07:44] so my brilliant idea was I I took a picture of the of like the the operator card like little handout that they had and I I circled the person and I used my

[07:59] Oh. Oh, this is a video. Good lord. Uh, here we go. Oh, of course it's a video. Everything's a video. Why is everything a freaking video? I just want a not video. >> Says video make man.

[08:18] Listen, I am doing my best right now, okay? I am not perfect. I am trying. I'm just trying to find the post. You know what? It doesn't matter. The point is I held the button on my thing. I

[08:30] circled the person and I said, "Who is this?" And it was like, "Sorry, I can't give you results about people." And I was like, "This is literally a tech influencer. This is a public figure. I'm not It's not like I'm It's not like I'm

[08:44] discreetly snapping a picture of someone at the gym being like, "Give me her home address." You know, like it's it's not it's not creepy. I just want to know >> you use Grock for that. >> Yeah. Like like if if someone has

[08:56] hundreds of thousands of followers or whatever, I I would think that it would just tell me like who is this sort of broadly speaking. And I tried it for myself, too. It wouldn't even tell me who I was,

[09:09] >> which is like where So where's the where's the line? waiting to happen. >> It just feels it just feels kind of >> It just feels it just feels kind of useless. Um and so I'm

[09:22] >> Dude, I I I tried to call someone on staff while I was driving and I I did like, "Hey, Google, call this person." And it called some like random grocery store with a somewhat similar name. It's It feels like the same problem as

[09:35] Google. You've talked about this with trying to call your wife. Um, it feels like a similar problem to like Windows search where it's like if there's a close match in my contacts list, maybe go with that first instead of a random

[09:49] grocery store. >> I I tried to navigate to a community center in Siri and it uh it tried to navigate to somewhere in like the states uh when I when I tried to use my voice for ways. I I am I am at the point now

[10:04] where I am just I want to I want to put my fist through the through the freaking dash of my car every time I have to use my voice to interact with Android Auto or CarPlay. I I just I'm so done with it. It's so much slower and so much less

[10:20] reliable than just being allowed to type a couple of letters and let the auto complete go and then and then press the thing. I I don't understand the freaking um wrong thinking that has gone into

[10:37] these these alternative interfaces, whether it's the little like like I draw on a touchpad here or I have a knob to go through the letters here or I draw on a screen up here or I use my voice which is just it's it's so so unreliable that

[10:52] it causes so much more distraction than if I could just tap what is usually just three or four letters and it will it'll autocomplete wherever it is that I'm autocomplete wherever it is that I'm trying to go. Um anyway, so so what

[11:06] would what would we want out of an AI pin? I guess I guess my issue is that >> don't believe it's going to work >> had with it has been so unreliable and so useless that I just I don't want anything like Okay, another perfect

[11:21] something that is tunable by the car manufacturer. So, I don't know if this is across the board with Android Auto, but I'll be having a conversation with my kids in the car and I'll hit my my my voice button on my steering wheel and

[11:35] I'll be like, "Hey, tell me about the the the battle of Waterlue." And it'll be like, "I'm sorry, I can't do that." Why? [laughter] I can listen to audio books. I can

[11:50] I can listen to audio books. I can listen to the radio. I can talk to other people in the car. I can I I >> The only successful things I can routinely do through voice controls is set alarms and start music playing. Even

[12:05] can sometimes be a problem. But I can just get it to like just play music and it will it will generally do it. So, I'm just kind of sitting here going, I know

[12:17] how some of the people around here use their their Meta glasses, for instance. Like, start recording video, stop recording video. I guess that's reason why I would want that to be on a pin rather than my my my field of view.

[12:32] >> Feels objectively faster to be, sorry, objectively better to be your glasses going to be pointed >> or stable >> in the exact right spot. Yeah, there's the pro. Honestly, if it weighs almost

[12:45] the pro. Honestly, if it weighs almost any amount and like has a battery in it, so there's like a bit of a floor. Um, it's going to tug down on your shirt. If you remember that that AI pin that epically failed, um, in all of their

[12:58] and everything, they were wearing relatively heavy clothing uh, and pinned it on that. It was like seemed pretty obvious as to why they were doing that. obvious as to why they were doing that. And then the other main use case is that

[13:11] kind of just uh tell me about this what's the how many US dollars is this you know it and it's in some other currency or whatever like like that sort of thing which again >> I would much rather have on glasses

[13:26] >> I would much rather have on glasses >> from my point of view rather than like what I'm going to I'll like hold stuff up to my pin and hope that I have it framed correctly and it has the, you know, enough situational awareness to

[13:41] understand what exactly it is that I'm asking it about. I don't know. This just going to want to wear glasses, but I don't think the answer to that problem is pinnable things. >> We also have to remember that Apple has

[13:53] enough R&D budget to buy the earth and all the heavens. So they could conceivably R&D this entire product all the way to manufacturability >> and then just and then just go, hey, that was a really great learning

[14:07] glasses. >> Yes, that makes far more sense to me personally. Or or they can just pull another Apple Vision Pro. What's the another Apple Vision Pro. >> I don't think anyone does. What's the

[14:20] last product that Apple released that was net new that went well? >> We started to talk about this on the show earlier and it's been it's been tough. Apple has been >> Tim Cook has done a lot of things really

[14:34] >> Tim Cook has done a lot of things really well. Um like Apple is is a supply chain management monster. Like they're absolutely incredible. They have they have executed on the yearly cadence for iPhone with

[14:50] precision so good you could set your Apple Watch to it. you know, like they've they've come out with accessories for the iPhone like the Apple Watch. Um, >> guys, AirPods 4 is not a net new

[15:02] product. I'm talking new product line. >> Well, AirPods I would say is >> net new hugely successful. >> But was that after before the watch? >> Yeah. >> But again, it's it's it's an iPhone

[15:18] accessory, right? It's not a completely new category of product in the way that >> Yeah. >> Uh Apple silicon is unbelievable. Absolutely incredible. Um >> it's a component of

[15:33] >> but it's a component of a MacBook which was already a thing that existed. And I was already a thing that existed. And I I think I I honestly AI pin just kind of feels like like like like desperate thrashing

[15:46] trying to find >> something new and some some relevance in this AI obsessed corporate world right now. Um Fizer says Mac Mini. Yeah, >> that's not a new >> existed forever and it's just a

[16:01] computer. >> Yeah. When did the first Mac Mini come like >> 2006. No, 2005, apparently, according to >> 2006. No, 2005, apparently, according to AI. Um, yeah. Wild. Wait, was there a

[16:17] Mac Mini? Holy crap. There was a Mac Mini before Intel. Power PCG G4 Mac >> Whoa. >> Support.apple.com is the source. I think I'll take their word for it. It had ATI graphics, brother. So yeah, Mac Mini is

[16:34] not is not what would count as a as a new uh product for for Apple. Apple TV. Yeah, I'll I'll accept Apple TV. >> What? It even looked like surprisingly

[16:46] >> That's pretty cool. >> Like this is the back of it. >> That's pretty cool. >> That's crazy, huh? Okay.

[16:59] >> HomePod. Yeah, but we were asking for successful products. [snorts] come up with a new thing. They worked just canned it. >> The watch came out one year before the

[17:12] AirPods. You write AirPods came out uh came out uh after >> Air Tag's cool, but I stand behind that's an iPhone accessory. Um it it doesn't work without an iPhone. Anything that doesn't work I do. Okay, this is

[17:26] interesting. One of the things that I've gone off on multiple times is the way that Apple treats buyers of their products like secondass citizens if they haven't bought enough of their products. And I do start to wonder if that's

[17:43] something that culturally at Apple could be holding them back. If they're afraid to make something that isn't an iPhone accessory, because AirPods don't have to be an iPhone accessory. They could have all the same

[17:57] >> They could >> on Android or on a PC. They could, but they decide that they don't. They decide that you can't even so much as update your firmware unless you have an Apple device to connect it to. And And so I,

[18:12] you know, I'm thinking, you know, you AirPods, how many more AirPods could crossplatform and you you could just use them with anything? [sighs]

[18:27] might be an unfortunate answer, but a lot of people that I know that have Androids just also have AirPods and just deal with them being crap. >> Yeah. No, that's fair. Um, yeah, I've heard of Libra Pods.

[18:40] Super cool project. Um I haven't actually started using it um correctly. But yeah, that that whole that whole mentality that they have that you're not really an Apple user. You're not you're not you're not really like a customer

[18:55] that we need to take care of and provide basic functionality that we advertise for the product or the ability to keep the keep it software firmware up to of our products. You have to buy you have to buy more of our products. You

[19:08] that I mean you don't have an iPhone. Why would you need to be able to man? What was it? I was trying to I was trying to like cancel a subscription on my Apple TV and it was like a super super tedious roundabout process if I

[19:22] didn't have an iPhone for some reason or another. I forget the exact details another. I forget the exact details around it. Um is the answer. And uh it it really does seem like they're just at sort of a

[19:38] Like Vision Pro has been such a disaster. And I I think I can say that objectively at this point. When's the last time you saw somebody using one? This is an Apple product. Like if it

[19:53] doesn't move millions and millions of units, it's it was not worth them units, it's it was not worth them lifting a finger to to develop it. Um

[20:07] were new. You're right. But I don't think those are going to go down as a major success. >> Yeah, I do think glasses would kill.

[20:19] would destroy. >> I mean, it's not like anyone that I know of loves meta. >> Yeah. You know, I don't think that Facebook slash meta slculus slash whatever you want to sort

[20:36] of call what they're doing with their augmented reality stuff. Um, >> No, >> it's just they happen to have a product that is admittedly quite appealing. Like the video quality out of those glasses

[20:52] is mindblowing to me for how compact it is. Like super cool. Personally, I haven't found myself craving them. And I and I do I am

[21:05] starting to wonder if I'm just becoming a bit of a boomer cuz I've been I Reddit asking Lionus, where the heck's your Garmin smartwatch video. And part short circuit yet, it's it's going to be

[21:20] short circuit yet, it's it's going to be a short circuit, is that I just haven't interacted with it very much. I don't really care about it. Um I it got my accidentally left my phone in my office and I ran to the washroom to uh pick all

[21:37] of the mucho burrito out of my braces after lunch cuz that's part of my life >> Yeah, it's good. It's It's nice. There's a whole second meal in there. Um Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so someone called me on Teams and I was like, "Oh, oh shoot."

[21:51] So my my wrist starts vibrating and I and I realized I was like, "Oh, I can't actually interact with this because they're calling on Teams and um all I can do is decline the call. I can't send a message. I can't accept the call. I

[22:07] like, okay, so I'll just run back to my desk then." So functionally, I it didn't it didn't do much. It didn't change it didn't really change my life. I I use it to set timers when I do badminton training on uh Monday nights. I feel

[22:19] like everything for you and me is like that that uh >> whatever that TV show is uh where there's a little robot and it's like >> And for us it's always just like you set timers now.

[22:31] at everything else. So we're just like whatever you set timers now Rick and >> Uh >> yeah, you pass butter. >> Uh yeah. I I I just And the glasses I feel

[22:46] like it would be the same for me. There's there's there was one time uh there you go. There's that. >> Um so there was one time we were we were playing volleyball at the at the on the beach and I realized afterward man I

[23:01] brought meta glasses with me on this trip so that I could like try them. This would have been a perfect use case for it. So like like vlogging or something having a camera mounted to your head all the time being super useful. I haven't

[23:14] the time being super useful. I haven't seen a lot of maybe this is my sphere of of uh content, but I haven't seen a lot of like video filmed with meta glasses content. >> Maybe you didn't realize.

[23:28] >> I don't think so. >> Okay. It's really good though. Like shockingly good. I was really surprised by how good the quality was when I used >> I just actually don't really think so though.

[23:45] there big creators doing this? Have you guys seen anybody? talking about adult content in chat because classic degenerate >> that makes sense. Sure. >> Yep, that makes sense.

[23:59] I'm kind of surprised that I haven't, but then I I also wonder if that's more on like the short form content realm, which I generally try to stay away from.

[24:13] creators >> DNA. I'm not I'm not like seeking out um videos from people who have them to be clear. Um I just haven't actually like just short creators, that makes sense because I kind of avoid that. Yeah.

[24:34] I got a browser add-on that removes shorts from my YouTube page. >> Great. >> Cool. I tried the I tried the official

[24:48] >> Doesn't work at all. >> I I've Yeah, I've heard that, but I noticed. >> Yeah. No, I tried that. It didn't do >> Uh, which browser add-on is it? >> I don't remember the name. Cool.

[25:04] Uh, apparently there's a pilot according to dense one in float plane chat that does some cool long form videos with meta meta glasses. a cool use case and I think those are

[25:16] probably particularly good for cuz like a GoPro in that scenario would be very >> Oh yeah, >> in a lot of scenarios they're pretty >> Um, >> Amaria says, "My show fewer shorts

[25:29] they come back." Well, it's probably because the sun came out.

[25:47] >> It Yeah, it that was that was a fairly weak ding, I think. >> We need like a ding damper so you can get like the first like [ __ ] but then it doesn't remember it. >> No, that would be so unsatisfying.

[26:00] >> That's what that deserves. >> I refuse. [laughter] >> I refuse. [laughter] >> Great pun, Lionus.

[26:16] >> So, now that we've trained you to have a dopamine response to the good ding, >> what's the opposite of dopamine? >> Probably like >> Probably like >> manslaughter.

[26:33] >> All right, speaking of unpack that one. >> Speaking of YouTube, uh, YouTube CEO Neil Mohan published a blog post on January 21st about new things coming in 2026. Some of the notable ones include Shorts feed changes

[26:49] notable ones include Shorts feed changes to allow image posts. YouTube TV will be getting multiv- view, allowing users to watch up to four different YouTube TV watch up to four different YouTube TV feeds at once. That's right, my friends.

[27:01] your TV. >> Amazing. >> There will be updates to parental controls and there will be simplifying parental controls, which I am very much in support of. There will be more

[27:14] monetization options for vertical streaming, which actually probably makes a ton of sense right now. updates to YouTube shopping, including having purchases baked into the app uh instead of redirecting to another store. That'll

[27:28] interested in selling things on the platform and really bad for people with impulse control problems. >> Yeah. Uh, we've got tools for creators >> Yeah. Uh, we've got tools for creators to swap out their bakedin ads and then

[27:42] resell and replace those ad spots at later dates, which is going to be an absolute gold mine for like very evergreen content creators. I don't know

[27:54] that it'll be as useful for us. But if you make videos that are you make videos that are >> about the War of 1812, for instance, you like uh Oh, actually a perfect example of this would be um

[28:09] >> oh man, what's his name? He does the the oversimplified is a perfect example of someone who could benefit from this immensely because he does those like uh like limited edition merch drops in his videos. So, if he could go back and

[28:22] replace his entire back catalog >> with whatever his current merch drop is.

[28:34] pretty uh that could be very powerful um for creators like that. Uh, what else? We got some AI transparency labeling to help users identify when videos are made with AI, assuming they can even tell. Um, combats to AI slop. Didn't get into

[28:48] well. >> They also gave some stats for YouTube. alone. >> I really wonder how they calculate views on shorts. >> Yep. According to a 2025 Canar survey,

[29:02] 93% of 18 to 27year-old US viewers agree YouTube helps you learn new skills. I wonder what the other 7% are. >> Probably not shorts as much. >> Maybe they've never heard of YouTube. U

[29:15] 79% of US teachers are using YouTube to teach students. A hundred billion dollar was paid out to creators, artists, and media companies in the last four years. That is a truly astronomical number. >> That's a lot.

[29:29] >> Uh and then in 2024 in the US, YouTube says they contributed 55 billion to GDP and supported over 490,000 full-time jobs. That's wild. almost half a million full-time

[29:46] there's a lot more full-time jobs than just me like here at LT. Um, but like half a million full-time jobs. >> I could see that for sure.

[29:58] >> Yeah, I guess. But like I just never really thought about it that way. >> Creator economy, man. >> Wonder how they calculated that, but I'm not too stunned by the number. eggnog in April says, "Yeah, I don't believe half

[30:12] >> kind of do. >> I know so many creators that have >> I know so many creators that have enormous teams. And when I say enormous, I don't mean like a thousand people, but I'm talking like like 10

[30:25] >> or 20. And >> dude, the amount of like two to three people YouTube teams is like endless >> huge. Like it used to be not that long >> huge. Like it used to be not that long ago, back in my day, man yells at Cloud

[30:40] the YouTubers with a million subscribers and put them on stage at once and give them giant YouTube play button plaques. That was a thing. >> Whereas now,

[30:52] million subscribers? How many YouTube channels have a million subscribers? quite a few. You also don't need a

[31:04] million subs to hire people and make a team. Especially in modern YouTube, I would argue, where there are certain like crazy niches where you can be super successful with 20,000 views a video. Um, it's just an audience that like

[31:18] supports really heavily or monetizes really heavily. Like they'll buy the and you get big affiliate revenue or whatever else. [snorts] Uh, okay.

[31:38] See, I don't know. The AI overview estimates around 69,000 channels. Nice. As of mid2025, but I haven't actually found Awesome Creator Academy says >> As of when? >> Uh, in 2025.

[31:53] >> So, >> out of date. >> It's 2026. Now >> the point is a lot um now obviously not all of those are in the US but as we already talked about a lot of those

[32:07] channels probably are either directly or indirectly responsible for the full-time employment of a lot more than one people one people one person like LMG for instance directly employs like 100 plus I think we're at sitting at around 120

[32:23] >> um >> ish >> but there are also people who are indirectly full-time employed who don't necessarily work for us. Like for instance, um our uh our third party

[32:36] >> That's one of the reasons why I said it. I wonder how they're counting it because >> we're over half of their business. So by that logic, half their headcount is is >> do you count some amount of employment for all the services that support us?

[32:51] >> Internet. >> I would think so. Oh. >> that's not going to be a whole person. >> That's getting pretty fuzzy, >> but it's part of a person. >> Yeah. Here it says YouTube supported

[33:04] very >> I think it has to be more direct >> Unclear exactly what they would mean, >> but then you're counting the shipping >> Yeah. Which I think is >> I think is fair, but where is the line

[33:17] >> It's tough. >> Not sure. Uh I think the biggest one for >> Not sure. Uh I think the biggest one for me was actually that um for the parental controls I can now I have the granularity to turn off shorts or limit

[33:33] granularity to turn off shorts or limit shorts directly for my dependence a huge thank you >> because I don't mind my kids using >> because I don't mind my kids using YouTube at all. I do mind a lot them

[33:46] >> Shorts is a different thing. It's a different beast entirely. Yeah, [clears throat] I feel like I I do I do feel a little bit like every generation goes through this. Books were once the devil and and an idle pastime that

[34:03] rotted your brain and then it [snorts] was radio and then it was TV and then it was radio and then it was TV and then it was video games and then and then and then and then and so you know I'm sitting here going, "Well, you know, I

[34:16] grew up with YouTube and I turned out okay but these shorts these shorts are bad. They'll rot your brain." Except >> I mean they do seem to kind of >> I mean they do seem to kind of >> No, actually though. Uh yeah. Um

[34:29] anyways, I I really like the learning new skills. Uh and the viewers agree that YouTube helps. Sorry, uh teachers are using 79% of teachers using YouTube to teach students. I was kind of wondering

[34:43] wondering time for business meeting on Wshow time. Uh there was a thread on the the Reddits recently of um >> about the Vimeo thing. >> No. um a Techquiki episode.

[34:57] >> being used in a classroom. >> Yes, >> I lost it. It's somewhere in here. But that you know that we'll get a little while. It's been a consistent thing for a long time. Have you ever thought of

[35:11] a long time. Have you ever thought of like working with some form of uh make >> content like for classrooms? >> Oh, interesting. That's not where I thought you were going. Um, so YouTube

[35:24] actually has features where educational institutions can license your content >> Yeah. >> Um, we've always opted out just because uh I don't I don't care if just use it. >> Yeah, that's always kind of been my

[35:39] stance. as for like like supplemental materials that are specifically designed in partnership with with some kind of

[35:51] um educational institution. I think that's super cool. I'd be >> think it's a neat idea. >> Yeah. And like obviously, you know, if the ideal for us would be that it's stuff that we could still upload

[36:04] >> on YouTube, so I wouldn't want to go into much more depth than something like a techquickie already would. Y >> but if it was meant to be like, hey, here's the new unit we're working on today.

[36:25] >> sounds awesome to me. >> Yeah, that'd be great. >> You should make a CompTI arrival just to troll them. >> No, I wouldn't need to do that. >> That's that there it is. I I mean, look,

[36:40] >> That's that there it is. I I mean, look, >> you've got the paper. It's good enough. spiders on the back of that. Just a heads up.

[36:54] Oh, seems like you're probably fine. >> There's a dead one. Um, listen, they can take away the actual certification online, but they can never take away this piece of paper that I printed for myself. [laughter]

[37:12] and freeze frame that and then zoom in and replace the name Lina Sebastian with >> Nice. You should not. We would never endorse such a thing. >> Um, what stands out to you from the YouTube blog?

[37:26] but that thing you told me about shorts and being able to control your kids and being able to control your kids feeds is amazing. Um, that's awesome. I'm I'm actually surprised that 79% of US teachers are using YouTube to teach

[37:39] once in a while. I didn't think it was going to be effectively 80% of teachers. >> I mean, so many teachers are like freaking millennials now. Like they're >> I get it. It makes sense. I'm just surprised that it's that high. Um and

[37:54] like, man, like maybe we should support this more. Um, I don't know if that's a desire from anybody, but I mean it does seem like our videos get used. I have usually seen our videos getting used in universities. That's usually the the

[38:11] it comes up or technical colleges or whatever. Um, so I don't know if maybe show up in in like high schools or whatever, but bunch of friends who are teachers and I'd be very surprised if they never

[38:26] >> Makes sense. >> Yeah. I mean, I airplanes, says Bordaga. >> Sweet. >> I mean, if somebody else did the work of >> No. Yeah, I get it. I just like I don't

[38:40] >> you know, they'd roll out Bill Nye every once in a while, but it was it was like pretty rare that we watched things in class. >> Yeah, I guess that's true, isn't it? >> So, like, is that more common now?

[38:53] Projectors are probably more ubiquitous now. Our school only had like a handful now. Our school only had like a handful of like AV. This is my point. Yeah. So, like I am I I'm just super out of touch with high schools, I guess, because they

[39:06] probably I'm assuming do they just all have projectors now or like what's the think my kids school all the classrooms have projectors in them. So, projectors? >> Like when the Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[39:19] like Ben Q. Ben Q for >> lives or dies on like how many how many school projectors they sell >> like big you big university projectors >> and and um I was going to say yeah like I was I was helping out in one of my

[39:34] helper day. Um this was a few years ago. But it used to be when they're younger you could go in and you could like help run like a a unit that they were doing or whatever. It was a nice way to just

[39:46] environment at school, see how they're doing. Um, see which of their friends probably we like shouldn't invite over, you know, the rabble rousers. Um,

[39:58] anyway, like um, so I happened to be there when they did the morning >> Oh, >> yeah. So, like the principal was like on >> Was it a live stream? >> I don't know. I actually I didn't think

[40:13] >> Interesting. But like they definitely all have like you know projectors in >> Yeah. And like if you think about it like Yeah. Why not? >> Yeah. No, it makes sense. I just I just I don't back to high school since high

[40:26] >> Projectors like a few hundred bucks a grand. You got to throw a little screen on there and like some networking like it. Yeah. There's it's nothing that I mean you know a person who worked in and in school it Yeah.

[40:38] guy wouldn't have been able to figure out. I mean, he probably did. I just mostly talked to him about like server stuff. So, we never got into like what are the like classroom configurations that you have. Um, but yeah, it's really

[40:53] interesting. I the the whole story is very long, so I probably won't go through the whole thing, but I was recently on a trip that ended up a location I did not expect at a very very very small town. And I had

[41:07] going to talk about the town visit? I was going to ask you about it later on >> Yeah, sure. Fine. Maybe later. >> Maybe later. Um, but something that I did think of was the internet there was so

[41:20] >> um that I I kind of had this thought like I mean >> there was none at the airport. There was no cell signal. There was no whatever at the airport. You had to drive into town to like get signal. I had this thought

[41:33] I don't know if it's a series or a one-off or whatever, but you're doing Tech House. Could there be like tech tiny town where it's like town thing >> we set up. Oh, I didn't think that's

[41:47] >> No, that's a great idea. >> Great idea, Lionus. >> This is why you there you're the mayor of Lionus Town. That makes sense. >> He's so intelligent. >> That's that's that might be one of the

[42:01] >> Our greatest deer leader. >> You could totally just buy a tiny town. >> I'm getting cookies. [laughter] What a phenomenal idea. Always one after the >> Look at him go. Walking off the stage. Not running this time.

[42:17] Not running this time. [laughter]

[42:29] >> The wounds. The wounds. >> Okay. So my my thought was basically like, you know, we could probably with Ubiquiti, whatever. But cuz Ubiquiti has those pointto-oint dishes,

[42:43] a little bit better? While I was there, I speed tested, which probably brought the whole thing down, but I speed tested and I got 2.4 megs down and it just crit

[42:55] failed on the upload. Nothing. It didn't give me a report. Speed [clears throat] test just gave me the download. I've never seen that before. Um, and it also had 900 latency to the closest server. Um,

[43:07] >> a second. >> Yeah. But not only that, it felt like it was like on an analog onoff switch that was constantly running. Cuz if I sat there with a web page open on my phone and just refreshed repeatedly, it would

[43:21] load and then >> like fail, web page not found, and then load and just rotate that constantly. Um, and apps like basically didn't the continual connection that an app would expect. It was

[43:35] >> really bad. Like I I I don't think I've experienced internet that bad in >> um decades. >> So I was just thinking like is there something we can do to like [laughter] help basically um and is this

[43:49] interesting? And like to me it's kind of interesting. I'm I'm trying to get into some home labby stuff recently and whatnot. Um, that's why I thought had and I saw their point to point things.

[44:01] >> Really good and affordable pointtooints. >> They do. And I don't have a use case for Um, >> they're super cool. We have one on the >> Still going to We might have gotten rid of it. It might be a backup link now.

[44:15] >> Ah, that makes >> But for the price, do with it. >> Yeah. And this I mean this isn't a this >> They also are a sponsor. So >> are they a sponsor right now?

[44:28] >> I have no idea. >> Who knows? This has nothing to do with that. But they just they have some cool stuff. Uh and I thought it could be an interesting experience to to do some network connection stuff for future

[44:40] Linustown. >> You're still talking about this. >> I tried to time it for your return. [laughter] >> I think it worked. >> Nicely done.

[44:52] Jeez, >> because of you, I had to get two packs >> Two packs of cookies >> to deal with my stress. [laughter]

[45:04] is if you're feeling particularly stressed out, you get free cookies. >> Yeah, you get two packs of cookies. >> Two two. [laughter] You had a hard day. >> Yeah, these will make you feel better temporarily.

[45:16] >> Automatically deducted from your monthly Linus bucks. [laughter] food. [laughter] >> I guess that's all we need to say about

[45:30] the YouTube announcement. U >> Dan, that was topic two. So, what are we >> Well, we got 10 minutes. Uh we could do merch messages now. Do another topic that was quick. We've got lots today. >> Uh sure. Why don't we do a quick topic?

[45:44] Let's do a quick topic. >> Uh what's a quick one? Oh, uh yeah. >> Uh what's a quick one? Oh, uh yeah. Okay. So, I have a proposal. Microsoft needs to have their new Coke moment. >> Oh, sorry. I read this before the show

[45:58] can't agree more. >> They think about it. Coke was having trouble with Coke. Okay. So, they come up with new Coke. Everyone hates it. They bring back Coca-Cola Classic. Everybody loves it. Sales go

[46:14] Classic. Everybody loves it. Sales go hockey stick. Okay. Right. Brilliant. Microsoft has this kind of problem with their their helper monkeys, their assistants, you know, back when Clippy was their current helper. I mean, even I

[46:30] think I think the Which one came first? Clippy or the dog? The search dog. was >> search dog was XP. Clippy was office XP. >> Clippy was also XP.

[46:44] >> I think they were like that was their characters era. Clippy was apparently >> I'm old. >> Says say says the [laughter] pancreas. >> Okay. Well, whatever. The point is

[46:58] at the time at the time, everyone freaking hated Clippy. >> Oh, yeah. >> Right. Everyone hated the dog, right? Until they gave us Cortana. And then all of a sudden, I felt nostalgic for

[47:12] Clippy, you know? I was like, "Oh, the dog. I remember the dog. That dog that never found anything. That was so cute. Right. The flashlight would go like this flashlight. The point is, >> wow. The dog was first 1985.

[47:25] >> It didn't get better. >> They gave us They gave us Cortana. We hated Cortana until they gave us C-Pilot. And now I'm sitting there have Cortana back?" >> Okay, but but seriously, do you think

[47:38] Cortana? >> I think compared to Copilot, yes. I out of the way. >> I think Microsoft just needs to completely new coke this, throw away the co-pilot branding entirely

[47:55] and make their big AI push around clippy. >> I would too. >> And this is why when I read this, I was >> AI pin called Clippy. You clippy it to your shirt.

[48:09] >> If it was just a big paper clip, that would actually go so hard. [laughter] That would be amazing. That's a genuinely incredible product again. Holy >> All right, take care of the stream. [laughter]

[48:23] >> That's wild. We should make an AI pin. It's not like it's hard. >> Actually, though >> there it's all just Arduino hot glue. Look, if we want, >> Luke, [clears throat] if we want to

[48:36] ICO >> minus 10. Oh, >> the answer is going to be a coin. >> Both Linustown and coin. >> Both Linustown and coin. >> And let me tell you something.

[48:49] >> And let me tell you something. We've had some conversations lately. We've had some conversations. Don't be surprised if in the next, you know, two months and a bit, >> we have a coin.

[49:03] I'll say. >> What is it for? >> That's all I'll say. What is it for, Luke? It's a coin. >> What do you mean? What is it for? >> So, it's it's for rugs.

[49:17] Heavens, no. >> No. >> It's It's the the unrugged coin. >> It's a coin. >> Okay. >> That will be initial. [laughter]

[49:34] >> The first ever coin offering initial. >> Stay tuned. Look, you can tell you can tell he's not sold. You can tell he's not sold, but he hasn't seen all the details yet. He doesn't know the details. Tell me now, are you sold?

[49:50] details. Tell me now, are you sold? [laughter] >> Yeah, kind of. [laughter] >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. >> Oh, that's actually awesome.

[50:08] board. You guys will get on board. >> I will buy I will buy one Lionus coin. there's >> Yeah, I should have bought one Bitcoin 20 years ago or whatever. >> Not quite. I will buy one Linus coin.

[50:25] >> I'm not going to lose this hard drive. [laughter] >> All right. >> Oh, Dan. message. That was the whole topic. Yeah, >> let's do a couple merch messages. Go do

[50:41] CW announcements and things. >> Oh, okay. So, where's that? At >> we have no main topics today. >> When you hide things from me at the very >> They're supposed to be in the middle. I didn't write the topics. We talked about

[50:53] >> You [laughter] >> Why are you so >> Why are you so >> You got to put it on a lower shelf. what Luke gets. >> I like it more, baby. Which is so not

[51:09] good. [laughter] >> Okay. Do you want to fire up the uh the store and then we'll screen share? >> This week's launch takes the old Cleanup Wizard from your computer >> and gives it a fullon fantasy makeover.

[51:23] The collection includes, how cool is this hoodie, you guys? The Cleanup this hoodie, you guys? The Cleanup Wizard t-shirt in solid black, plus a limited run tie-dye version. Oh, I have that. Hold on one sec. Uh, yes, we are

[51:37] still trying to get rid of the last of the LTX tie-dye shirts. >> Yeah, >> I hadn't seen that one. >> Yeah, brother. Limited edition. Only the LTX23 tie-dye shirts that we have

[51:50] the rest of them. >> And so, we've got it in black. We've got it in the tie-dye. And then we've also got it in our uh zip-up hoodie printed on the back. Um you can shop the collection. Oh, here we got Luke laptop.

[52:07] You can shop the collection at lmg.gg/cleanup wizard. >> Some of these photos, [laughter]

[52:21] the the ones where they actually like try to be a real wizard like oh my god super hard with props. So good. >> Sometimes like he he's the one who made our um who made the trophies for the last scrapyard wars. [laughter]

[52:39] Sorry. I really like these. >> Oh man, that's great. Now I need to hide before they >> really cool design. And I believe this >> really cool design. And I believe this one was either entirely or predominantly

[52:53] a Lisa innovation who technically works for the fashion team, not the design team, but she obviously has a design background. And um this basically I I

[53:06] think I asked for like a couple small tweaks, but pretty much she showed it to me and I was like, [snorts] "Amazing. Print it." >> cuz it's so cool. old old Microsoft mascots that were awesome. Everyone

[53:21] >> Yeah, >> even when it was current >> and this is like cool, gritty re-imagined Wizard. And like I love that it looks like a band shirt or something. >> I thought, okay, Dan was walking in in

[53:36] front of me and he was wearing the hoodie, I'm pretty sure. And I saw it on the back and was like, huh, like, you know, never heard of that. That's a cool concert hoodie, you know, and did Dan start dressing well? [laughter]

[53:51] >> Um, it it just And then and then I think he told me he's like, "Oh, yeah. It's like, you know, a reference to I was like, oh, obviously." Cuz yeah, I thought it was a band shirt. Crazy. Now I need to continue trying to buy one.

[54:05] Thank you. >> Before we move on, a quick reminder about the LT Truepec cables drop. They're going to be available in USB A to C and USB C to C with plenty of speed and length options for a cleaner setup.

[54:19] You can check out our sign up page at lmg.gg/cables signup to get more information and features and to get notified as soon as they go live. I would not probably screw around if you want to get exactly the

[54:33] around if you want to get exactly the length that you want because we ordered somewhat conservatively on the first round and I can't guarantee that all sizes will stay in stock unless unless we nailed it and we got the mix exactly

[54:47] right and we >> Are you leaving a merch message? >> Are you leaving a merch message? [laughter] are you >> I'm a customer. He's right. Leave a

[55:00] >> I mean, you're entitled. Yeah, you're entitled to leave a merch. You could I merch message. >> Well, now you know I'm sending it. So, >> Well, now you know I'm sending it. So, now I need to send something different.

[55:15] phone on the land show. I'm not trying to I'm not trying to creep your >> You think I don't know what our own store looks like? screen, though. [laughter] >> Linus. What if somebody else wanted to

[55:29] send a merch message? What do they do? >> Right. Okay. All they would have to do is head over to ltstore.com where they could pick up some great merchandise like last week's Crash Out shirt, which I actually love. How How cute. How

[55:43] [snorts] cute is the little sad face here? Or you could pick up the D cleanup wizard collection. Um, just drop something in your cart. How about this one? Let's go with this. Add to cart. And then in your cart, you will see this

[55:59] checkbox right here. I would like my order to appear as a merch message on the LTT stream. You can do it anonymously. You can change the color however you like. See, that one was purple, the one that just faded away in

[56:12] a merch message. That merch message will go to producer Dan, who will throw it down there if it's just like a shout out or something or reply to it himself if he knows the answer or it's one we've seen a hundred times. or he might curate

[56:27] it. That is to say, he will put it in a queue for me and Luke to address later on the show. We like merch messages because they're a way for you to throw money at your screen like you would with any other streamer, except instead of

[56:39] just throwing money at your screen and getting I don't know what senpai noticing in return, you also get highquality products. Uh, by the way, highquality products. Uh, by the way, I've been using the Mword and we had a

[56:53] >> Mword. Yeah, the M word. We had a we had a um we're not going to call it merch meeting this week. We are officially banning the word merch because it's not

[57:05] >> Checkout chats. We talked about this months ago. else. Let's call them checkout chats. >> So, it has the same abbreviation as C >> I like it. >> Okay. We could call them

[57:17] >> That's good. >> Um Okay. What What would be MM? Help us >> Um Okay. What What would be MM? Help us out here, guys. Yeah. >> Stop it. [laughter]

[57:31] uh, >> money makers says McBain. >> Well, Conrad does get final say, and he says Ramy Dans, so we're going with that. >> No, we're not calling it that. Um,

[57:45] >> mercantile messages. Thank you for that. >> Market manipulators. Money messages. Um, stream shouts is kind of cute, says Wan. Bingo

[57:58] Chronified. >> Mandatory meetings, >> I think we could go with checkout chats. >> Send send your [ __ ] >> Perfect. >> Okay. Check. Let's go with checkout

[58:13] chats. So nice. Yeah. Well, it might take uh might take a week or two, but let's get the let's get the rebrand in here and let's do uh let's call them stop calling this stuff merch. It's not merch. It's uh we do we do product

[58:26] merch. It's uh we do we do product development like uh they were I think this this might have actually been Lisa as well. Um, but she was uh telling an anecdote and someone was getting like a tour through there and they were like,

[58:41] "So, with like all the stuff you guys do, would you consider this more like a like a fashion department?" And she's like, "Uh-huh."

[58:53] [laughter] Eric was all like, "Wow, you guys do like so much testing on like the like the materials and the finishes and everything. Like you get every it's not just Yeah. So we've just we've got to just stop calling it that.

[59:06] >> We got to respect ourselves enough to call it what it is. though. >> I know. But like but it has that >> I know. But like but it has that connotation of just being cheaply

[59:18] silk screen logo on it. >> This is just how all language is >> people just get like tired of a word so they decide it's bad and then you just they decide it's bad and then you just make a new one that does the same thing

[59:39] >> As long as the words don't start with R, I won't get confused. >> Calm down. I don't know if his mic was on, but I

[59:52] could hear him losing it over there. >> Just [laughter] giggling through gritted teeth. >> Uh, want some merch messages to read? Sorry. Check out chats. >> Damn it. Um, show me show me your [ __ ]

[1:00:04] Shall I shall I show you some of these [ __ ] I got sent? Um, Talking of [ __ ] can we get a sock update? >> Oh, yes. Um, am I [snorts] wearing them today?

[1:00:17] >> I'm not wearing them today. I'm wearing old prototypes today. I am so happy. >> Oh man, are you excited to to do time stamps [laughter]

[1:00:45] I mean, at least [laughter] Dan's best [ __ ] of 2026. [laughter] Poor Noki.

[1:01:00] Oh man. Okay, sorry. You keep going. >> Sorry. Yeah, sock updates. Continue working on the [ __ ] I'm super happy I'm with how the the latest samples are going. They're really durable. They're

[1:01:17] really breathable. They're not the softest socks in the world. They're they're like a marino wool blend. We found that the >> percentage of marino wool was not what the manufacturer told us that it was,

[1:01:29] which is why we do all this materials testing and stuff that makes us, yes, like a company with a fashion team. um not just a merch, you know, out outfit. Um and so that that was super cool. Tatiana, full credit for that. And uh

[1:01:45] what we decided was that we're going to stick with the composition that it is because it's great. It's very wearable. Uh but that just is going to affect the way that we advertise it. I I had a meeting with um

[1:01:59] meeting with um Dave, Adam, the head of customer care, uh Tatiana, so the material specialist, and then and Bridget, who's head of the fashion department, not not merch department, fashion department. And um

[1:02:12] remember her exact title, but basically the hono. And we >> Yeah. I I I >> The Han Show. The Han. chill. I think if I was like, "Yeah, we're printing you business cards that

[1:02:27] actually be down. [laughter] I'm not 100% sure on that, though. So, definitely get approval before you do something. But if you do the wrong

[1:02:39] thing, she'll tell you in the nicest possible way that you have royally possible way that you have royally [ __ ] it up. decide what her job title is. Riley's badge for CES said the Han. I think it

[1:02:55] >> That was amazing. >> I know. Sherrods was doctor >> cuz of course it was. Anyway, [laughter] >> the point is I had a long meeting, not

[1:03:07] long, short meeting with those folks and I think the socks are going to be the third fourth fourth entry in the Trust Me Bro limited lifetime guarantee

[1:03:20] family. To be clear, everything on the store, we stand behind it um extremely, you know, strongly. But this is one where we're looking at it going, this is going to be a very premium sock. I think people are going to have for the price

[1:03:34] that it is, very high expectations for how long they should last. Everything is within reason. Um just like I've discussed before with the how a limited lifetime warranty works, whether it's the backpack or the screwdriver or the

[1:03:47] socks or the cables or whatever else. Um, there's going to be language in the >> limits it. That's what a limited lifetime warranty is. >> Um, so, you know, it's not going to cover things like flagrant abuse of the

[1:04:00] product. Um, and it'll it'll have wording in there that basically gives us the right to weasel out of whatever it is we don't want to do, which is exactly sort of my point on the whole warranty thing in the first place. Um, but what

[1:04:13] we're going to be doing through calling it that is sending a very strong signal that this is a product that we expect to last for an extremely long time if it does not get abused and that you will be extremely happy with the value that

[1:04:25] going to stand behind very strongly. I'm extremely excited uh for this product. >> What do you look at? >> Check out messages. Comms. >> I like it being comms. >> Comms is pretty good.

[1:04:42] Cox. >> Only if you use the >> It's just a fling for me. >> It's just a fling for me. [laughter]

[1:05:00] could you could have the long one rather than the short one, but there's no way you didn't do that on purpose. >> Yeah, it was on purpose. Okay. Court is >> I like it. >> Check out [laughter] Jads. Uh, let's

[1:05:14] have another one here >> for today. They're check out chats. >> for today. They're check out chats. >> Oh, they sure are. How about that? Hey, wonderful tech bros. I know in the past it's been said

[1:05:29] that RAM slots on GPUs wasn't going to happen, but with the RAM apocalypse here now, does that change your answer? Sell cheap GPUs with bring your own RAM. No,

[1:05:42] unfortunately, because the reasons that they are doing things the way they're doing them are economical or sorry, are technical reasons, not economical reasons. uh in order to get that memory running at the kind of speeds that they

[1:05:58] need it running at, the traces need to be extremely short. And every time you add trace length or you add an interface, so so a a pin and a spring or

[1:06:11] interface, so so a a pin and a spring or anything like that, you are you are contributing to signal loss that will ultimately result in not being able to run at as high of a speed. That's why the faster the GPU,

[1:06:26] the more important it is that we bring the memory closer and closer to it. So you look at something like HBM where they're bringing the memory right onto the package versus a typical GPU where your memory um dies are laid out around

[1:06:42] the GPU. And you notice they're never far away. Like they would literally rather have it double-sided on the PCB. especially you look at like um some more some higher capacity cards where they'll have memory chips laid out around the

[1:06:56] GPU and you flip it over and there's memory chips all over the back. [cough] Excuse me. Um it's the same reason that uh that AMD requires stricks Halo to have the memory

[1:07:10] soldered to the board. So that's their Ryzen AI uh AI Max 300 series, what whatever the actual brand. Ryzen AI Max and AI Max Plus, if I recall correctly, is the the branding for it. But Framework took some

[1:07:26] flak for making the framework desktop with Stricks Halo and having soldered memory on the board. But the cold hard truth is the reason that that memory is soldered is because to feed that high performance integrated GPU, it has to

[1:07:43] be. You could put socketed dims in it, but you'd be giving up so much performance that you're basically defeating the purpose of the product in the first place. Socketed GPUs were a thing, but it just got to the point

[1:07:58] where it just wasn't worth it. It didn't make any sense. And the vast majority of make any sense. And the vast majority of the time it was pretty clear pretty much the time it was pretty clear pretty much how much memory was needed for that GPU

[1:08:11] performance in the kinds of applications that it would be running. There are certainly exceptions where just having way more could allow you to run a way larger AI model for instance now today. But from a gaming standpoint,

[1:08:30] pretty good idea how much memory that GPU could really benefit from before more memory, but would also just need way more GPU horsepower. idea of how they can push people into higher price bands through manipulating

[1:08:44] that. >> Absolutely. But that's a separate conversation, not a wrong conversation. Totally valid point, but is not the Totally valid point, but is not the reason why we don't have socketed GPUs

[1:08:59] reason why we don't have socketed GPUs at this time. fun. >> Sure did.

[1:09:12] >> Do you want to pick one? >> Um, yes, I [clears throat] do. I do want to pick one. Sony gives up 51% of its Bravia TV business to China's TCL in a new strategic partnership. Very,

[1:09:27] very odd. This is done with the aim of leveraging Sony's highquality picture and audio technology which includes some class leading image statement. I winced because it's like

[1:09:40] direction then. Um which includes some class leading image processing and TCL's. And then this is crossed out. Um, advanced display technology, global scale advantages. Oh, okay. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:09:54] efficiency, and vertical supply chain strength, also known as cheap manufacturing. Uh, in a joint press release, Sony said the joint venture will uh will operate globally, handling full process from

[1:10:07] manufacturing, sales, logistics, customer service, everything. Sony has partnered with numerous other companies to manufacture their TVs in the past. necessarily sure on that one. >> Oh,

[1:10:20] >> it is to this degree. Yeah. Okay. >> They gave up 51% of their business. >> No, no, no. But like they they they have had other factories OEM manufacture >> That's not Yeah. What I was talking about was giving up 51% of their

[1:10:33] business. Uh cuz doing that repeatedly is is >> confusing. Um, Sony has partnered they partnered with TCL's own uh China Star Optronics Technology CSOT. Um, at

[1:10:48] at least for now, the Bravia name will continue to exist, but in this new arrangement, TCL will take full control of the manufacturing process of Sony's TVs and likely their soundbar, speakers, AVRs, and turntables. The aim is to have

[1:11:01] definitive binding agreements signed by the end of March 2026 and for the new company to commence its operations in April of 2027.

[1:11:15] >> Yeah. Big time. >> Definitely. >> This was a major surprise to me because Sony's TV business has has been >> seems pretty strong >> in dire straits at times. M but not

[1:11:30] now. Now admittedly >> feel like it. >> Admittedly, every time I've gone out shopping for a TV in the last little while, whether it was you asking me for a recommendation or whether it was my

[1:11:45] grandparents needing a new TV and me just like going and buying one, >> Sony hasn't been in my consideration at all. So Sony has been in kind of a weird place for me where they have a lot of

[1:11:58] mind share with me. I I see it as a highquality product, but I'm not willing highquality product, but I'm not willing to open up my wallet to pay the premium to open up my wallet to pay the premium for it. But Sony's been in that position

[1:12:12] for the better part of my adult life. So I guess what I'm just trying to understand is what changed? Is it maybe does it just what changed? Is it maybe does it just is it just even further tighter pressure

[1:12:25] to to consolidate? Like it's >> I think that the TV game for a long time >> Well, yeah. >> And they just probably can't compete High Sense factory tour [clears throat] where they were talking about how

[1:12:38] important it was that they had this new automated glue dispensing machine for adhering the thing to the thing that saved some percentage of glue. And I'm They're like, "No." And I'm like, "Well, then why does it matter if you save like

[1:12:52] a few milliliters of glue?" And they're like, "Well, because we make a lot of makes sense." >> Like they're they are squeezing

[1:13:04] every penny that they can save out of these things uh in order to keep TVs getting bigger and prices staying similar or in many cases going down.

[1:13:16] >> Here's a question. Have you found that? I'm not much of a TV guy. Have you found up? >> I haven't experienced it personally. >> heard people anecdotally talk about it. >> Yeah. Okay.

[1:13:30] >> But like I I don't >> I can't remember the last time I heard anyone say that their TV died of like natural causes. >> Like actually. So, that doesn't seem to be happening because I I have a

[1:13:43] >> my my fridge at home is having a problem and just because I everything is at my an appliance guy come in and he was basically just like, "Okay, yeah, I mean I can fix this." But realistically, this thing's old enough. You should just buy

[1:13:56] a new one. To that I was like, "Huh, my parents have had two fridges that I can remember my entire life. This fridge is does not seem that old. What are we talking about?" Um, and I did a bunch of research, also known as I looked up

[1:14:10] a thing now. >> Oh, yeah. like five 10 years now. >> 10 years on the high end, five on the >> Wild. >> It's a big box of cold."

[1:14:23] >> It's a big box of cold." >> Now, there are there are TV [sighs] Ratings did that really great investigation into edge lit TVs, finding that especially if they were on for very extended periods of time at high

[1:14:37] backlight power, uh, what was happening was it was like melting and discoloring the diffusion layer behind the LCD screen. And that was like a widespread

[1:14:49] what I was going to point out was that you and a lot of people in your social Yeah. >> And therefore

[1:15:01] have not the the cheapest TV. >> And so it seems to me that you still can >> A lot of my friends that aren't necessarily

[1:15:13] um a lot of my friends, >> the two that I've been in their living room and seen what they have not opted room and seen what they have not opted to go buy a cheap TV from the store.

[1:15:25] to go buy a cheap TV from the store. they've opted to get used stuff. Um, so they have higher quality things that might be slightly older. Um, but >> and they let someone else pay the initial depreciation cost.

[1:15:38] cheap, >> it seems to be like you got that crazy something crazy for Scraphead Wars? >> No, it was more than that. deal was crazy. whatever it was. >> I think it was four I want to say $400

[1:15:52] Canadian and it came with a free soundbar or $600 and it came with a free >> Whatever it was for the quality of TV that you got it was fantastic. >> Totally acceptable. >> Um our scars TV was $550 with a $100

[1:16:04] than that. Thanks. >> Um so like there the used market for TV though >> Which puts pressure on the used market as well when new TVs just

[1:16:18] like open box warehouse, but it wasn't open box. >> I know, right? >> Crazy. Um, burning. But, >> um, Eddie Coldri says TCL is probably

[1:16:33] available in the UK. It's weird to see them taking on what I would consider as a luxury TV brand. Um, especially Sony Bravia Pro line. And this is one of

[1:16:45] those things that I think I think I've been guilty of many times I think I've been guilty of many times in the past as well. This perception that Chinese brands or Chinese manufacturing or or or low-end brands

[1:17:00] can't make something better. A lot of the time >> Yeah. >> to make like a budget crappy one. Yeah. >> Um, sometimes it's because they can't make something better, but a company

[1:17:14] make something better, but a company like TCL, like I was I was blown away when I first got that 115in TV like 2 years ago or whenever it was. And I was I've ever seen, this is one of the best TVs I've ever seen. I was not expecting

[1:17:29] that. And it has still held its spot in my theater room to this day in spite of ultra-large TV segment. >> Yeah. which is kind of crazy, >> Yeah. >> Um and and like going back even further,

[1:17:45] remember how we used to go to CES in the early days >> and Highense always had the booth right next to Intel right at the entrance of >> Y >> and I'd be like, who the [ __ ] are these

[1:17:57] >> every year for a while, >> but who the [ __ ] is High Sense? >> Why does the Why does the perspective back then relax? Yeah, massive booth. >> I didn't even know who they were at all

[1:18:12] the first time I saw them because my first CES was like 17 years ago now or know who they were. I had to look it up. >> And it was like, oh, it's like a weird Chinese TV brand that literally doesn't exist in North America at all. What are

[1:18:26] >> And now they're battling it out with TCL, another brand that I wouldn't have heard of at all at the time for number one, number two, if I recall correctly. Is Samsung is Samsung still up there? >> Top TV brands

[1:18:41] brands US. Is it high cents in TCL? >> Are you measuring it by sales? >> volume of sales or or like total dollars. >> Um, hold on. No, I don't want best.

[1:18:54] Um, oh for yeah top selling TV brands from AO uh AO statistics. from AO uh AO statistics. [laughter and snorts]

[1:19:08] So, average star rating, last month's sales volume, high sense, TCL, Sony, that's a cheap Sony, so I guess that makes sense. Samsung, LG, Vizio, >> What are these stats? >> I don't know how reliable this is. Last

[1:19:22] >> What is this? >> Okay, you know what? I don't know. I find this, but the point is they absolutely have a very strong presence in the US market. You can say that with certainty.

[1:19:36] And um I guess where yeah, where I was going with this is that there's nothing about TCL's budget low-end TVs and them not being very good that means that TCL doesn't have the manufacturing expertise

[1:19:53] >> and and facilities to make a high-end TV. >> Yeah, for sure. And that's how a lot of these brands ultimately make their way to having a retail presence is they're OEMing for

[1:20:07] OEMing for much more recognized bigger brands and then they eventually kind of go, "Sorry, what do I need these guys for?" And they start making their own stuff and their own stuff kind of sucks. Um, not because

[1:20:19] they don't know how to build a better one in many cases. Sometimes that science down or they don't have the good processing chips or whatever the case because they just recognize that they're going to have to lucky gold star it and

[1:20:34] start at the the bottom of the quality and perception pile and work their work volumes get higher and their expertise raises and then all of a sudden they're raises and then all of a sudden they're LG [snorts] and they're like a globally

[1:20:47] LG [snorts] and they're like a globally dominant electronics brand.

[1:20:59] at this point, there things are a little bit more confusing. Sony still owns 49%. From my understanding, so Sony is still going to be literally like very invested in Bravia TVs being really good. Um, but

[1:21:18] would I pay extra? Would I pay the Bravia premium for a TCL TV with Sony's special sauce knowing that I already wasn't willing to do it? And also that

[1:21:31] nothing's really changed because TCL may very well have been manufacturing them >> funky. >> It's changing, but is it changing? ever happened. >> Oh yeah. Yeah, 100%.

[1:21:52] mean, this this gets talked about a lot where people would be like, "Oh, Apple, Apple or Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola is not a not a pop company. They're a logistics company or whatever. TCL, I think if if you're making that argument about other

[1:22:07] argument about them being logistics and manufacturing and and efficiency and company. So if >> at a certain scale it's it's very true countering that. I'm just saying that you might also I don't know enough about

[1:22:21] CCL, but you might also be able to apply that same logic to them. And if so, Sony might just be like, look, we just want to step back and be like a really premium technology and R&D group that can contribute that to really

[1:22:37] pump out. Um, >> and if they're getting, you know, if they own 49% of of the joint venture, >> still a big part of the pie, especially manufacturing side of things, the logistics and everything, they can leave

[1:22:50] that alone. Like, it it might be fine. I don't know if I want to be too doomer about this. Um, as someone who has never purchased a Sony TV, it doesn't necessarily matter that much to me. >> Yeah, Sony was always like an

[1:23:03] aspirational brand for me. Even going back to like like portable CD players >> they're usually quite premium. >> Actually, hold on. No, I did have a I >> I remember >> I had a Discman. And Panasonic was

[1:23:17] around the time that I finally got one. I didn't get an early Discman. Like I didn't get one when they were square. I got one when Sony had kind of started to have their their ability to compete in the premium space eroded when they had

[1:23:31] the rounded ones. The conversation we had on WAN about rechargeable batteries reminded me that I I probably needed a few more. Um, so I I treated myself to one of those like the Analoop kits.

[1:23:45] >> It comes with the the charger and the adapters and stuff. It showed up. I'm >> I wonder which one I had. This looks a little bit too squared off to be mine, but this display >> looks extremely familiar. Uh, this this

[1:24:02] >> I don't think it's there anymore, but I remember when there was a Sony store in through there all the time. I never own anything from Sony, but I always thought >> This was absolutely directly competing with like Panasonic's uh look at the

[1:24:16] time. These uh these early uh square ones were pretty pretty wild. Oh, >> I think this is the one. I think this is >> Scroll down like one row. digital mega base one row. Right. What you have What

[1:24:31] of your screen. >> Oh yeah, this guy. but that looks awesome. >> Is that relatively new? Like is that like going for like a retro vibe? Can Can this not be here? I'm trying to Oh

[1:24:46] my god, it moved. Stop. >> 2023. Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. >> It looks awesome. >> Late 1980s. That's pretty wild. That's

[1:24:58] >> That's quite a vibe going on there. them more had had Panasonics though with their better anti- skip. >> It's true. [snorts] >> Did you have a Panasonic?

[1:25:13] >> Parents love your parents. >> Then your parents didn't love you that >> I don't know about that. It sounds fishy to me. >> I remember there was this one kid in my class who had uh like I don't remember

[1:25:28] exactly which one had kind of like the sedan's parents loved >> Nice. >> We never bought anything electronic ever. It's like, "Oh, this is too much to repair. We'll just fix it."

[1:25:42] >> I remember this kid in my grade seven class showing off his Panasonic class showing off his Panasonic Shockwave. And basically his demo was that he would like give you his headphones and then he'd be like, "Okay,

[1:25:54] now start shaking it." And you'd like you'd shake it for as long as you could keep playing the whole time cuz I think it had 45 seconds of read ahead. So like [snorts] have to shake it for almost a minute to get it to finally skip, which

[1:26:11] was probably terrible for it. like probably awful for >> But it worked. Yeah, it was a cool demo. >> He didn't buy it. >> He didn't buy it. >> Yeah. What does he care? [sighs]

[1:26:28] this. It might be fine. It might not be fine. >> The 51% of its Bravia TV business is also interesting because as far as my company and you want to work in China, you just have to do that. And they said

[1:26:42] the new company will start operating. Oh, yeah. Hold on a second. Um, definitive abiding agreements will be signed by March of 2026 for the new just like sell part of their company. They made a new company. And in China,

[1:26:56] if you're going to make a new company, a Chinese company has to have >> uh uh majority. They have to have at least 51%. So, this is this is I don't even think this was like a negotiation. They wanted to start a new company in

[1:27:10] China making TVs and they just had to partner with somebody and they partnered >> Well, I wish them luck with that. >> This is part of Do I want to talk about this because I don't know enough of the facts. Uh h you

[1:27:25] Carney's plan as far as my understanding goes is 51% for the Canadian side. He's trying to do effectively the same thing they're doing when uh when an outside

[1:27:37] and do business. Um >> especially like natural resource extraction. Yeah, >> it's been a it's been a real problem for foreign entities coming in setting up shop um doing a bunch of mineral

[1:27:53] and um natural resource extraction and then funneling the profits outside of Canada where there's >> no contribution to Canadian taxes. >> no contribution to Canadian taxes. historically been extremely permitted by

[1:28:06] Canadian leadership um to the point where there's like almost certainly backroom deals happening. Um but yeah, this is this is discussion about car companies coming in from from China to Canada potentially setting up

[1:28:19] manufacturing and whatnot and a Canadian company would need to have uh majority ownership. It's it's and that's that's not a you know amazing new playbook idea. That's just hey, China did that. It worked really well for them. Let's do

[1:28:32] the same thing. So, yeah. >> I mean, I I see nothing wrong with >> I mean, I I see nothing wrong with learning from our geopolitical rivals. >> From the big dogs. >> I mean, listen, every Pokemon game you

[1:28:48] meet your rival, I know I'm going to crush him. Still a rival. >> Fair enough. Um, all right. Hey, what do you want to talk about next? How about Tesla's robo taxi

[1:29:03] about next? How about Tesla's robo taxi service actually goes full robo for the first time in Austin. Since launching in the summer of this year, Tesla's robo taxis have come with a safety monitor in the car who can hit a kill switch in the

[1:29:15] event of an emergency. But now they've started offering unsupervised trips in >> They apparently plan to phase out the safety monitors and move to a fully autonomous fleet over time. I mean yes that that has been the plan for that's

[1:29:28] some time now. >> It's coming in two years >> There have been approximately eight crashes in the 5 months since the service launched despite the safety monitors which depending on how you

[1:29:41] interpret that number is either really great or really not as great. Um, I remember reading about some college student who uh created an app that pings their service constantly from a bunch of different locations to find out how many

[1:29:55] robo taxis they actually have deployed. And it turns out it's not very many. Um, >> Good job. >> Anyway, the cyber taxi program still has

[1:30:07] company is pushing to open in more cities soon. cities soon. Um, [gasps and sighs] that said this is not true and supervisory safety monitors are in

[1:30:22] >> That's hilarious. >> I I don't have like a source for this or >> At what point do you think it would be easier easier for Tesla to just do the things they say

[1:30:35] to do? >> It's impossible. >> I'm just wondering. >> That would be too uncharacteristic. >> Like what? Like would it be easier for them to actually make a useless

[1:30:48] humanoid? >> I can change him energy.

[1:31:00] >> I mean, for a trillionaire, it's worth at least trying. Luke. >> Yeah. This is a futurism.com article. It says there's reportedly a car secretly following every Tesla. So, this is not like I don't know if this is

[1:31:15] real or not. Um, >> and it says when Elon Musk said there the car, he didn't mention the other car. I don't know. This doesn't >> I mean, the whole thing basically doesn't necessarily mean anything. It's

[1:31:29] been pretty clear that this roll out has been a desperate attempt to prove that they're actually definitely for real, definitely actually going to do self-driving this time. Meanwhile, >> speaking of which, are we transitioning

[1:31:41] >> sure are. Go for it. >> Tesla autopilot comes to an end in North America. [laughter] Tesla has quietly removed autopilot from all vehicle purchases based on what Elon has shared in the US and Canada, replacing it with

[1:31:55] traffic aare cruise control or TAC, TACC, as the default driver assist feature. The change follows Tesla's recent announcement that full self-driving supervised is moving to a subscription first model. Existing

[1:32:10] owners won't lose autopilot, but new buyers now have to pay for FSD or full self-driving if they want features like lane steering. Oh boy. Uh Tesla is offering a longer 90-day FSD trial. Uh but after that it's

[1:32:26] it's 99 bucks a month or a onetime purchase is available until February purchase is available until February 14th of $11,000 Canadian or $8,000. Autopilot has been a core part of Tesla's value proposition and removing

[1:32:41] it means even basic lanekeeping is now paywalled. Really? Something many cheaper cars include by default? Yo, is there going to be comma AI kits for >> That's a thing. Oh, really? >> That's that's a thing. Yes.

[1:32:56] >> This is pretty wild to me because a huge part of the the Tesla package from my understanding has been the the advanced software. And it seems like

[1:33:08] this this push to making it all a subscription is either >> Oh my god, it is. It either means that they're actually ready this time and

[1:33:21] it's actually working and they're finally like we can actually charge money for this because it's not just alpha level software running on beta level hardware. Um I shouldn't say beta level hardware but it's not working as

[1:33:37] advertised. They've been they've been making claims about full self-driving making claims about full self-driving for many many years with respect to the capabilities and the timeline that have simply not turned out to be true. That

[1:33:49] simply not turned out to be true. That we can all agree on. Um so either time and they're like, "Yeah, we can charge for it now." or this is a desperate attempt to FOMO people into buying a bunch of full self-driving

[1:34:04] right now so that they can juice the numbers for their next investor call and self-driving and how much they just bought of it. I I can't I can't tell if

[1:34:17] bought of it. I I can't I can't tell if if every move in this chess game if every move in this chess game is um just a way of staving off the ultimate crash of this stock for another quarter or if it's something else.

[1:34:32] quarter or if it's something else. Can't tell. it's it's it's interesting because they I mean they've got something like I I

[1:34:45] sat in a car with somebody who was driving a Tesla and driving is like in enormous air quotes because their their legs were crossed in their seat and they legs were crossed in their seat and they were like clearly on their phone and uh

[1:35:01] showing me the the how they know the limits of when autopilot will get them to like pay attention again and how they like play within the limit so they just them all the way from where we were to the next location with no intervention

[1:35:15] whatsoever. >> Yes. [laughter] >> Yes. [laughter] >> Yeah. Uh

[1:35:27] person, but there was other stuff going on as well. Like it it was uh it was honestly quite impressive. But then that's still not technically the advertised full self-driving. But the thing that gets me is the removing

[1:35:40] of of even things like lanekeeping. Like that's crazy because clearly they have something like that was that was quite an impressive experience to be honest. Um but to just rip it away it's like yikes

[1:35:54] man. >> To be clear everyone who has autopilot which is advanced cruise control with lane keep not without it. Um everyone who has it in their existing vehicle already will still have it.

[1:36:09] >> So, they're not taking it away from anyone who does have it. They're just not providing it as an included option on vehicles subscription to unlock it. >> Okay.

[1:36:21] >> you've had to pay to unlock the heated rear seats uh in the past, for instance. then, but that's not as bad as I thought. I I I misinterpreted this. I was like, what? Like if that if if that was my experience, which you know, maybe

[1:36:35] you shouldn't do that, but if that was my experience, um I'd be kind of pissed No, definitely not. >> Okay, cool, cool, cool. >> Uh more Elon news or >> float plane announcement.

[1:36:49] >> Let's do that. >> That sounds like a better idea. float plane. Do you want to bring it up? >> Sure. is all about what Lionus does when

[1:37:03] he's not in Lionus YouTuber mode. Oh, okay. Interesting. The Tonight Show behind thescenes vlog is finally out showcasing what happened during the event, including the parts where the laptop did in fact work and a quick

[1:37:18] meeting with Jimmy Fallon himself. Um, yeah, Luke got to meet him too this >> He didn't chat with us for as long this time as he did the first time. busy man. I'm trying to find the laptop opening.

[1:37:34] >> We didn't end up capturing how frustrated I was right after the segment. Uh, but you did get to see how depressed the room felt, there.

[1:37:48] >> I talked to Sammy about it and he was like, "Yeah, I was I I I've never actually seen you like really upset before and I was like scared to film >> you still haven't. [laughter] >> You Well, I didn't say that. Um

[1:38:04] I was like, Sammy, >> even if I say don't, the right thing to >> Because later, >> let's not use it. >> Yeah. We can always I can always tell you later when I'm like not upset

[1:38:18] anymore, let's not do that. Let's not upload it. But we can never recapture a moment. And the example I gave him was when Wanx server suffered that enormous data loss incident and I was like actually like I I think I snapped at I

[1:38:35] think it was Taran Van Heert like put away the camera like like was like not okay in that moment and he basically was like I disagree this is very important

[1:38:47] like I disagree this is very important in that way that he sometimes did um which I didn't have time to argue with him out and ultimately I came to him afterward and I was like, you were right. You were right to capture this

[1:39:00] moment because this was really great, very real content that I wasn't in the mood for making at the time, but I'm very grateful that we have captured now that I can look back on it after the fact. Um, and so I basically I told

[1:39:16] Sammy that story about how like even if I tell you no, um, the better thing to do is capture it. can always not use it. We can always even delete it. >> If anything, I would take it a sign to maybe be less intrusive with the

[1:39:30] >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. >> Um, anyway, what else was I going to say? We also had Sammy following follow me around during my day at CES to see what it looks like when I don't have 12

[1:39:42] shoots at the show floor. This ranged from troubleshooting an inconsequential laptop all the way to some behind the scenes of us at the robot fight event. scenes of us at the robot fight event. Also, funny moment at 1919 to 1929.

[1:39:55] >> Okay. 1919. 1919. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, okay. Audio. Dan, do we have audio? >> Uh,

[1:40:14] >> I'm going show my dad what a father figure looks like, man.

[1:40:26] [laughter] >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. Wow. That's a huge yikes. Um, >> Oh man. >> If you prefer Riley though,

[1:40:39] >> Riley and Bejorn sat down to talk about the behind the scenes and some insight sponsor spots. >> I saw that. I'm excited to I haven't excited to watch that. >> Stay tuned because next week we have a

[1:40:52] float plane exclusive product, not clothing. That is very cool. That's clothing. That is very cool. That's launching. lmg.gg/fpwan.

[1:41:04] this? >> I my brain just went to like cables. >> Oh, I love that you don't know about this. This is going to be so much fun. >> I wonder I can't speculate though. >> I'm not going to tell you nothing right

[1:41:16] now. Absolutely nothing. Stone cold poker face. poker face. >> Um, how do I >> Okay, >> I CAN'T. NO, I CAN'T.

[1:41:30] to try again. Okay, you can't put it on me, Dan. You can't put the camera on me. I saw I saw you do that. [laughter] >> No, you can't. Okay,

[1:41:44] do this. Are you Are you Are you throwing for content? >> What? No. Why would I do that? >> Because it's so easy. >> Because it's so easy. >> Fine, you do it.

[1:42:11] >> I DIDN'T LAUGH AT YOU, THOUGH. That's not fair. Yeah, >> I did not laugh at you. I got I got I had a more difficult version. had a more difficult version. >> Sure. [laughter]

[1:42:28] for uh photographing kids when you have uh when you have a bunch of kids and else and you're just trying for the love of God, can we all be serious? >> Yeah. Okay, everybody. Everybody make the most serious face. Nope. I I'm

[1:42:42] telling you, you got to be completely serious right now. That's not That's not serious enough. Hey, I'm warning you. They'll all crack up. I guarantee it every time. Super cool hack. I remember um I was probably a teenager, so I still

[1:42:55] had young siblings and a photographer pulled that move on us for like our family portrait that year or whatever. And I was like, I'mma file that away don't know why this made me think of this, but I saw somebody recently who

[1:43:09] fed, you know, pills to their dog and they did so by accidentally dropping like a piece of meat off their plate, but it was the like it had the pill in their plate, >> but their dog is like super fast about

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[1:45:28] >> Yeah. What do you want to talk about, Mr. Lafreno? >> What do I want to talk about? >> What do you want to talk about? >> Ubisoft? Do you really want to talk about

[1:45:40] >> to be honest, but I think we should. After announcing a sweeping company restructure that includes the closure of two studios, >> Yikes.

[1:45:52] >> Yikes. >> Including the Prince of Persia: SANDS OF TIME REMAKE. OH, THAT WAS OH, I was h I love Prince of >> Yeah. >> I mean, I wouldn't have given Ubisoft

[1:46:06] [laughter] >> Ubisoft's lowered its financial year expectations by 330 million pounds. >> euro.

[1:46:20] >> Why did they do that? >> I don't know. Cuz they're burrow. >> I don't know. Cuz they're burrow. [laughter] now 1.5 billion euro with an [laughter] now 1.5 billion euro with an operating loss of around 1 billion euro

[1:46:35] uh shares dropped 34% in value on Thursday an approximate 95% loss from 5 years ago and the lowest point in 14 years. at that point? >> Well, you're the family that owns the

[1:46:50] company, I think. >> Oh, right. So, oh, the same reason I >> That's true. >> That's true. >> Mhm.

[1:47:03] >> Wow. That's a Wow. Huh. How about that? >> That decline doesn't exactly look like it's stopping either. >> Well, I mean, that's the thing about, you know, stocks is they can, you know, they st they can ston or they can ston.

[1:47:17] >> Yeah. >> Wow. [sighs] Discussion question. And >> Wow. [sighs] Discussion question. And Ubisoft CEO Eve Gimo uh is calling you right now and says, "I'll do anything you say to save this company. Please

[1:47:29] help me." What do you tell him to do? >> Uh he could try um Oh man. Yeah. What would I do to save Ubisoft at this point? I got to say I don't know necessarily

[1:47:43] enough about their problems. Like obviously they have the problems with the product that they're delivering, >> but I don't know enough about their product. I don't know enough about their problems internally because you can you

[1:47:55] can have like a super toxic company that's hyper dysfunctional behind the scenes but manages to to turn out good product even for like a very long time with that dysfunction. And you can have a company that is [clears throat] very

[1:48:09] harmonious behind the scene behind the scenes but has bad luck and and is is scenes but has bad luck and and is is not ultimately successful. Obviously companies that are operating harmoniously and are executing and are

[1:48:23] making money and succeeding, but it's not a guarantee. So I don't I just don't not a guarantee. So I don't I just don't know enough about how I don't know enough about what's wrong with them. Like obviously I'm I'm

[1:48:36] playing Expedition 33 right now and it seems like the kind of game that Ubisoft >> Yeah. >> Like where where are those where are those guys from anyway?

[1:48:50] >> they're from France. >> I guess I know >> from France. >> Uh hold on team. >> Uh hold on team. But where's the uh Oh, no way. No way.

[1:49:05] Okay. Wikipedia. The ideas behind Expedition 33 originated in 2019 with Guom Brush, an employee of Ubisoft, not long before the CO 19 pandemic began. I I can't I can't just keep taking all these W's from my videos that no one

[1:49:20] cares about on on Flow Plane. Uh my my little series on gaming things. Have you watched any of them? My whole point is that way back in the day with Atari and stuff, like Atari's slow death was the thing that spawned

[1:49:34] argument is we're going through that >> Yeah. >> And this is my example as to why is these types of things keep happening. This is an offshoot from Ubisoft. Embark

[1:49:46] another game of the year but for multiplayer uh winner this year is an offshoot from uh DICE, >> right? Like all these companies that are releasing like these like new feeling companies that are releasing amazing

[1:50:01] games are very often people leaving these giant no longer properly functioning companies of of effectively the past now and making new uh uh hyper

[1:50:15] >> That's basically what happened with zip tie tuning. [clears throat] Oh my. Oh my. Are you the Activision of YouTube?

[1:50:27] YouTube? >> In relative years, it might make sense. >> Get owned. Uh, >> we've got a fun collab coming with them, >> Yeah, >> that's sweet.

[1:50:41] >> Yeah, we uh >> That's exciting. I think I think I think this is uh I think I think it's going to be a very exciting future. Is you know going to be an exciting future. >> Yeah. I mean, I could talk for way too

[1:50:56] Ubisoft could do to to fix themselves. I have lots of opinions on this. I don't know if it makes sense to talk for an incredibly long time on that topic. Um but I think I mean some of it feels like really obvious to me. Um like we can

[1:51:09] start with Skull and Bones. That was like clearly an obvious massive failure like clearly an obvious massive failure when everyone on the planet told you exactly what to do and you were like no. Like maybe just listen to people. Maybe

[1:51:22] Like maybe just listen to people. Maybe you should have just made another like well. Do that. Assassin's Creed 4 was Remaster it. Sure. But also make another one. Make a singleplayer Pirates game

[1:51:36] that is awesome. No one cared about the Assassin's Creed portion of Assassin's >> Mhm. >> All they cared about was the boats. Make >> All they cared about was the boats. Make a singleplayer boat combat game. It was

[1:51:49] sick. Just do it again. Oh my god. Your your obviously best Assassin's Creed games were two. And then the uh Brotherhood and and Ascension. I think I Brotherhood and and Ascension. I think I got the names right. Um

[1:52:04] go back to Etsio. Make a like return of Etsio. It's been I think over a decade. I think it would be okay. I'm sure you can find a way to slot another story in in his like some age gap. He got he got pretty old if I remember correctly

[1:52:18] some stories in the middle there. It's probably fine. You can do it again. for every single franchise. You're telling me you can't make a Far Cry game based around what's happening in America right now? Are you kidding me? Far Cry

[1:52:34] was always the like political tension game. You think there's political tension right now in the states? Like f find a way. There's a way for all of these things. It feels so obvious. >> Have they made any like Rayman games

[1:52:48] >> Like I would >> they did some weird collab with Mario [sighs] >> Rayman >> they did already one of the Far Cros is set in America. That's not current year

[1:53:01] problems. Uh, >> I mean, a lot of America's current Euro problems are not exactly new. >> It's mostly fair. There was some There was a little bit. There was a little bit. Yeah, I kind of

[1:53:16] figurines from >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Mario Plus Rabids Spark the name of the game. >> Rabbids. Just Rabids. >> Oh, whoa. They seriously?

[1:53:31] Yeah, they haven't done like a mainline Rayman game in freaking forever. Who cares about Rabids? >> I don't know. That's crazy.

[1:53:46] Splinter Cell seems like a huge dropped ball. Lots of potential there. Um, well, am I missing something here? Yeah, Rayman Legends apparently was was the Rayman Legends apparently was was the last one. 2013.

[1:54:04] Whoa. [snorts] their franchises right now and it's just there's like so much potential and it every one of them. >> Like Far Cry when Far Cry was like

[1:54:19] banging with like Far Cry 3, Far Cry 4 around that area. They were very >> right? >> Very topical. and they've just ditched >> Very topical. and they've just ditched that. Um,

[1:54:32] >> what are their other IPs? Just kind of curious. >> The new ANO doesn't seem like it's reviewing super well. I do wonder if that has like an expansion fatigue problem where the previous

[1:54:45] >> AI and things a lot of the like I don't know if they've fixed this yet but it came under fire a lot because all of the like loading screens and stuff like that uh the painted backgrounds seemed to mostly just be AI generated.

[1:54:58] >> Um it might have changed, you know, but a little disappointing. >> It feels like a classic Ubisoft decision >> It feels like a classic Ubisoft decision though. So, it's just like I don't know.

[1:55:13] though. So, it's just like I don't know. >> So, here's some here's some Ubisoft IPs. Man, a lot of these have weakened a lot. every single one. >> Ano was strong until the very most

[1:55:26] recent release. Ano 1800 was an absolute banger. >> The one in the photo was wicked. Um, man, beyond good and evil has been I don't know if that's been relevant for a really long time. If I was I I

[1:55:40] understand this is like literally not the point. If I was running the Steep project, I would probably do like uh uh I don't know what you would call it, like a remix version where you go back to like SSX Tricky style gameplay and

[1:55:53] release one of those. Remember when they released that Far Cry that was like >> Blood Dragon? >> Yes. I would do like a Blood Dragon for Steep and make it more like uh the like old snowboarding games like 1080 and SSX

[1:56:06] Tricky and release a version of that if for no other reason to like just get potentially positive way. Like there's answers all over the place. They have so many legendary IP under Ubisoft and it just feels like every time they just

[1:56:21] have to piss them away and it makes me want to scream. Um, the the Skull and Bones thing was such an insane disappointment. It was such an auto win that they just spent incredible amounts of money on making sure it would fail

[1:56:35] horrendously. So frustrating. Okay, we're good. >> Do you want to talk about Bethesda now? You seem like you're on a [laughter] >> I don't know.

[1:56:48] Blizzard. >> Oh, am I like Oh, no. [laughter] >> Oh, you're not serious. Okay. I thought there was a Bethesda topic and I was of my head. >> No. No. All right. [snorts] Test six is

[1:57:04] actually set in the Starfield universe. [laughter] supposed to tell [laughter] you. You get you get to the end of the game and you

[1:57:18] start over again because for some reason that was a good idea. Let's do that that. >> Nice. [laughter] Nice. And then your whole It's a prequel. Good. Good. Good.

[1:57:32] entire game. Let's make them do that again. Let's Let's do that another time. The Microsoft CEO Microsoft CEO acknowledges that they will lose social

[1:57:44] permission to waste electricity on AI unless they do something useful with it. >> Wait, what? In a surprising moment of self-awareness, Microsoft CEO Satcha Nadella admitted at the World Economic

[1:57:58] Forum that AI risks, and this is a direct quote, becoming a speculative bubble unless its use spreads beyond big tech companies and wealthy economies. He also said that AI companies will quickly lose the social permission to take

[1:58:14] something like energy unless it's used for improving health outcomes, education outcomes, public sector efficiency, private sector competitiveness across private sector competitiveness across all sectors, small and large. [laughter]

[1:58:27] More quotes, [snorts] for this to not be a bubble, it requires that the benefits of this are much more evenly spread. And he also said that the a telltale sign that AI is a bubble would be that only tech companies were benefiting.

[1:58:47] smart people to be CEOs of tech companies. They just >> They just never say the quiet part out loud except when they do. >> Except for this time, man. Davos and the World Economic Forum this year were just

[1:59:00] >> Absolutely. Who needs the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills when we have the Davos in the World Economic [laughter] Forum? >> What a wild couple events.

[1:59:13] >> I mean, I guess that's what happens when you hire a reality star to be the head you hire a reality star to be the head of the world's largest economy. politics. >> It is. I mean, the ratings are high.

[1:59:26] >> Yeah, they have the best ratings. [laughter] never seen ratings like this." >> They haven't. He's right. [laughter] Way to go. >> Um, all right. So this comes after

[1:59:41] Microsoft reaffirmed investments of tens of billions of dollars into building AI data centers and after Nadella asked the public to stop calling AI slop slop

[1:59:54] to which the public responded by changing Microsoft branding on things to Microsoft because of course that was going to happen. It's so easy now that yes >> any anyone can meme on Microsoft now

[2:00:10] >> our discussion question is should big investors into AI be sweating investors into AI be sweating >> yeah >> I mean >> I like I I think we talked about this on

[2:00:25] W show before and I've heard this argument elsewhere as well but like I don't think a lot like a lot of like the the the Googles of the world whatever man they have so much revenue flowing in. Um,

[2:00:39] of the world, they're going to be fine. >> Oh, yeah. They have real revenue. >> Do we have a real business >> ad thing in here? >> An OpenAI ad. >> So, OpenAI is talking about putting ads

[2:00:52] there's a for GPT. >> There's a quote there's a quote from Sam Alman talking about how putting ads into the service would be like a last financial resort. And that quote was like not that long ago and now they're

[2:01:09] adding ads into the service. Um, and little bit nuanced because some people are going like, okay, well, he said last financial resort, so are they failing? Like, is this is this the beginning of

[2:01:24] the end? >> Here's a source from pcgamer dot. [laughter] >> Just in case you didn't know. chat GBT is about to get stuffed with ads.

[2:01:37] >> Yeah, but the the counter. [laughter] >> Oh, sorry. Oh my god. >> Yeah, it's a pretty good one. >> Oh, because Sam Alman is such an ethical person.

[2:01:50] person. >> Always, always, never. Uh even if they they can still target you like to all hell. So, just be ready for that. Um but uh there is a counterargument that while it might actually genuinely be a

[2:02:05] last resort, it doesn't mean that they're necessarily failing. Um if you look at I mean they might have been, but this move might literally be significant enough that it actually solves their problems because there is just so much

[2:02:20] freaking money in ads. And like if you look at this is a direct argument from uh Doug Doug I believe um which was basically like if you look at if you

[2:02:32] look at Facebook and Google clearly ads be banging. So like this might actually be enough to just bring them all the way up. It'll be interesting to observe. Um because I I really wonder how they're going to implement it because

[2:02:53] other ones to do the same? >> Absolutely. As soon as I mean this is why I always go off about Apple doing something that's anti-consumer gives everybody else permission to do it. It's not because I will even

[2:03:06] necessarily use the Apple product. It's just because everyone else blindly follows once something becomes a norm because there's including a cable or a charger or whatever else is in the box.

[2:03:19] whatever else is in the box. >> So if the household name LLM service >> has ads in it, >> then everybody else is it's it's easy will just do it. >> Somebody else did it first.

[2:03:31] >> Yep. >> Yep. Um, our next discussion question is, haven't these companies already lost their social permission to burn energy? >> No. I mean, that's the thing. So, this was written by David, who I think is a

[2:03:45] was written by David, who I think is a very he's a very dialedin person. He >> he knows stuff about a lot of stuff and he's he's got a high high awareness he's he's got a high high awareness level, you know, like u high awareness

[2:03:59] intelligence. You might say AI. Um, [laughter] that rude about you without it being a joke. Clearly a joke. Uh, but anyway, like David has a high level of awareness and um I think that uh I think that

[2:04:15] often we and I I'm talking to you guys too >> Whoa. >> You guys. >> Very serious. >> We We live in our bubble. We we hang

[2:04:28] out. A lot of you probably work in in the tech industry. A lot of you probably gravitate towards people in your lives who who keep up with and are interested in talking to you about the tech industry. You're watching How How long

[2:04:42] have we been How long have we been live? You are you're two and a half hours into You are you're two and a half hours into a podcast that is at least loosely >> like maintains a facade. Yeah, there you go.

[2:04:56] >> of [laughter] being about technology, right? And so I I feel like we end up with this inherent I I don't know if I would quite call it an echo chamber because I would like to think that we are open to new ideas, but it's

[2:05:11] definitely a selfreinforcing perception that the things that we're knowledgeable about are the same things that everyone around us is knowledgeable that everyone around us is knowledgeable about and more importantly cares about.

[2:05:25] about and more importantly cares about. But no, like my sister-in-law doesn't But no, like my sister-in-law doesn't know how much power chat GPT is using. occur to her to ask. >> I I think there's a lot of people that

[2:05:39] are just going to be like, you know what? I am invested in the the stock market in general. I my pension is invested in the stock market in general. they're going to do to make money. And I I think yeah, a lot of people aren't

[2:05:54] >> And that's even a tier of awareness above. Yeah. Like what we're what we're talking about here where we where we care about the the technical details of which Nvidia accelerators and how much VRAM they have on them and what impact

[2:06:10] that has on the supply of silicon wafers that's going to Micron or SKH Highix for the production of consumer memory and how that's affecting the pricing of the stuff that we're talking about on this show with the assumption that you guys

[2:06:24] "Yeah, yeah, uhuh. I have all the context to kind of follow along with context to kind of follow along with this." Um, but there's other people who are like way more interested in nutritional supplements or in the in in

[2:06:38] in minmaxing the performance of their truck or whatever else it is that they care about. I'm not saying that these are not aware people. I'm just saying >> this particular topic. Yeah. >> About this particular topic.

[2:06:53] whatever they do. >> Me neither. [clears throat] >> I couldn't I couldn't tell you who makes the best drill right now. >> Milwaukee. >> Makita.

[2:07:06] >> DeWalt. >> probably not Robi >> company that I have the battery >> Yeah. Exactly right. TO THE THE PROJECT FARM.

[2:07:20] >> YEAH. YEAH. To be honest, >> exactly right. So, I'm um so none of this really surprises me that or none of this surprises me that No, people haven't gotten fed up with what AI

[2:07:35] companies are operating in their backyard and and emitting a bunch of, you know, toxic gas and smoke into the air that's like drifting over their over air that's like drifting over their over their house or whatever. Um, and no, it

[2:07:50] doesn't surprise me either that David probably lives in enough of a technowledgeable bubble that to him it was like obvious that this is bad. to to a lot of you guys, like a lot of your your your

[2:08:04] adamant opposition to AI is based on understanding exactly what's going on right now. Um, and being kind of powerless to stop it. I mean, we talked about this in the um in the bright side of tech video where it's like, yeah,

[2:08:19] of tech video where it's like, yeah, you're you're 100 like we got the I got it live on the WAN show where I was like, we need a perspective adjustment. A lot of people bristled at that wording and so we we avoided that wording when

[2:08:33] >> Thank you for beta testing our our video. >> I know, right? It was but it was it was the same it was the same point. The point was that you're 100% right to be mad 100%.

[2:08:46] Um you're 100% right to feel powerless and you're 100% right to feel powerless and frustrated 100%. But just, hey, can we frustrated 100%. But just, hey, can we direct it to the right places? That's

[2:08:59] all. Can we just can we point it in the right direction? Um was kind of what I was trying to what I was trying to get across. and and and directing it at this at this [sighs] at this all-in bet for the next

[2:09:16] [sighs] at this all-in bet for the next the next 5G, the next IoT, the next big the next 5G, the next IoT, the next big tech trend that will make the stock go hockey stick higher. Um, at the expense of, you know, anything else getting

[2:09:32] better for the the average consumer. Um, yeah, definitely be mad about that. But, you know, maybe not maybe not everything. We I don't I just I don't think we have the energy to be angry about everything. I don't

[2:09:47] you objectively. >> This is This is This is based in true. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Andre B says, "The bright side of tech video was a somewhat surprising

[2:10:03] tech video was a somewhat surprising video. really appreciated it. Yeah, I I It was one of those ones that we talked about a lot in the writer room and we kind of we knew that we were doing something a little bit risky. It's a lot

[2:10:18] something a little bit risky. It's a lot easier to go I am a consumer advocate. I >> that was on paper >> mad on your behalf. >> Um that is effective. It's not effective. Doesn't doesn't do anything.

[2:10:31] >> It can be. [sighs] It can be if it's done in a way that is effective, but [laughter] I haven't I haven't seen it with respect to anything around um what's going on with AI right now.

[2:10:45] >> Like being mad about Micron shuttering the crucial brand is not going to change >> I think the biggest impact we've seen actually is in gaming with a few they'll limit their usage of it or whatever. Y

[2:10:59] whatever. Y >> um which is interesting and also I don't it's going to last man >> and I also have heard that that is causing some issues within a couple

[2:11:14] studios not one I've heard more than one um where some of the workers are actually really frustrated >> by not being able to use it. Yeah, >> that doesn't surprise me at all

[2:11:27] >> cuz there was certain cases where the higherups didn't even know to what degree it was being used and then made statements being like whatever. Dude, >> I I found out I found out about an AI tool that we were using yesterday in a

[2:11:40] meeting with an external company. >> I had no idea. So, apparently, you know, >> I had no idea. So, apparently, you know, the the safety pass on our videos where >> Oh, yeah. >> IP addresses. um physical addresses,

[2:11:55] as well? >> Apparently, there's an automated run of it. >> Yeah. So, you do the classic, you don't add in that one to help. >> And we we've tuned it to be extremely

[2:12:09] sensitive. So, out of 20 positives, probably only two of them will be real, they can just verify those things. >> But I literally didn't even know we were doing that. and uh and and um a member of our a member of our team uh James was

[2:12:24] telling this this other entity that we were chatting with and sort of sharing exchanging trade secrets basically. Yeah. Learning from each other. Um he he was like yeah and like the best thing about it is that for a 20-minute

[2:12:39] watch it. It can do it in like a few seconds and then you can just be surgical about what you're then reviewing as a human. It's like it doesn't surprise me at all then that the leadership at these companies

[2:12:53] literally just had no idea what the employees were doing because at the end of the day as long as the work output quality is high >> the way we're going it's just going to it's going to be another tool whether

[2:13:06] >> And for a lot of people it has been for a long time as well. Like there's nothing you could do as you know let's say Larry. There's nothing that you concept artists from generating a bunch of AI slop on their computer at home

[2:13:24] being in and then being inspired the next day when they come into the office. You literally can't you can't actually technically control it. technically control it. You can you can set uh like a tone for

[2:13:39] your company. You can you can try to set like a general expectation and then and be sneaky and dodgy about it which will significantly reduce it potentially to zero. But you can't actually guarantee that it will be at zero. The

[2:13:53] is the same argument I've made in the past about like um the AI regulation do at this point. >> Um and I'm very open to ideas to be

[2:14:05] clear. I'm not saying don't do anything, but like the the models have already They're out there. >> There's no we're you can't turn this off. There's no turning the faucet to close. It's it's it's out there. People

[2:14:19] are are running this in home labs. You cannot take it fully away anymore. >> And in fairness, a lot of the ideas are really good. Like look at this tiger really good. Like look at this tiger polar bear.

[2:14:35] Wars with creature design of this caliber? That is what AI's. >> It's just so sad, man. >> Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[2:14:47] >> Pawn crackers goes, "Oh, no, not again." It's so sad for so many reasons because like that obviously just in and of itself is depressing, but then just seeing what has happened to Star Wars and then seeing that that is a genuinely

[2:15:01] like praised idea coming out of that camp just is so >> Yeah, >> this is by far the worst one. >> they're [laughter] all so bad though. This is like a

[2:15:22] >> if you scroll down. Like he he actually just looks sad. He does. He's like, "Why >> I hate being >> This one is This one is upset that he has to wear that costume. Like why did they Why did they put weird dots on me?

[2:15:35] >> Why would they ever show this? Just show Don't show it to no one. Show it to no would be the solution. >> Pat them on their head and tell them to run off to their cubicle again and go do more productive things.

[2:15:48] >> [sighs] >> RIP Star Wars. Um, speaking of open been talking about open sourcing the recommendation algorithm behind X since before he bought Twitter and attempted to rebrand it X. Earlier this week, news

[2:16:03] the story evolved rapidly with the target date shifting from next week to March 31st. No, >> there is an existing GitHub repository algorithm, but most of the code is from before X was X with the latest changes

[2:16:18] coming back in September of 2025. I wonder if when they open source it, if they ever do, we'll be able to find the very top of my feed regardless of whether I follow him or not.

[2:16:32] >> Probably not. [snorts] Probably not. Google begins rolling out personal intelligence beta for AI pro and AI Ultra subscribers. Gemini with

[2:16:44] the data from across many different Google products, Gmail, YouTube photos, drive, search, calendar, etc. to provide highly personalized answers. Google's pitch as to why you don't have to worry about privacy is literally and because

[2:16:57] securely, you don't have to send sensitive data elsewhere to start personalizing your experience, which >> love it. I have to insert is just true. They already have it all anyways. They're not like it's maybe

[2:17:12] this is a quiet part out loud thing, but like I read that and I was like, "Yeah, >> they also promised that Gemini doesn't train directly on your Gmail inbox or Google Photos library, but they will train on prompts and responses within

[2:17:24] Gemini." Okay. >> And I think a key word there is Gemini will tell you where it pulled the information from so you can verify it, and you can correct it on the spot, i.e., I don't like golf, or I just

[2:17:37] will also filter out or obfiscate what it deems to be personal data. Well, good >> Yeah, sure. It definitely will definitely do that. Also, AIS have no you things that are false ever. They definitely would never do that. This is

[2:17:50] try it just to see if like it does feel like it's going to end up being >> possibly set an alarm for you. >> Yeah. >> Oh, the fact that like set timer and set

[2:18:06] alarm are not just like running locally on my device and I have to wait around for the cloud delay is nuts. In 2026, >> I [laughter] I didn't have networking on my phone and I tried to set an alarm and it just sat

[2:18:19] there spinning and I realized why and I was like, "Oh my god, I want to smash this thing." It would be so simple to process that locally. But no, but no.

[2:18:31] process that locally. But no, but no. Okay, our next topic, gigs in space. And the first note for this from Mr. Jordan Block is, "Sorry, I've been >> That's kind of based >> really good. I uh I forget how old I

[2:18:46] The Muppets as a kid cuz it was a little before my time. Um but I I did watch the old the Muppet Show. It's so good. It's like so funny and subversive and I am

[2:18:59] old enough that I at least know who a lot of the people they're making lot of the people they're making references to are. Um, yeah, it's uh I I don't know that younger people would enjoy it. I think like mid to to elder

[2:19:15] millennial is probably about as young as you'd want to be, but it's it's really >> And the reboot movies were good, too. At least the first one or two were. On Wednesday this week, Blue Origin, the Bezos founded space technology company,

[2:19:29] announced their upcoming Terrow Wave, a network of more than 5,000 satellites in deliver symmetrical speeds of up to 6 terab per second anywhere on the globe. >> Uh, I'll believe that when I see it. The new network is expected to serve up to

[2:19:44] 100,000 customers globally and will offer both RF, 144 Gbit per second, and optical 6 terabers per second connectivity options. Current low Earth millions of customers with asymmetric speeds up to 1 Gbit per second download

[2:19:58] and 400 megabit per second upload with the main one being of course Starlink. Uh there is another one uh what is it called? Um

[2:20:14] um how many satellites but I think uh Starlink is like way ahead of the others. AI overview says as of late 2025,

[2:20:27] AI overview says as of late 2025, the Galileo says Figuro. >> is this? A this is a reference to Yeah, I heard about

[2:20:39] >> Oh, you got I got duped by Flow Plane. >> Kerbal Space Program mod. That's good. >> Dang, >> you got home today. I haven't had egg on my face for a while. Tastes good.

[2:20:56] [laughter] >> Yeah, apparently there's really not a lot of Galileo satellites up there yet. Um, no, Galileo is also um people are saying Galileo is GPS equivalent. Well, hold on a second. What does um

[2:21:17] this out. Um, I mean it's definitely it's definitely a thing. [snorts] Leo satellite go Galileo broadband connectivity for every airframe. Like it's definitely internet connectivity,

[2:21:33] high-speed, low latency internet to business aircraft. Um, I don't know how many I don't know how many satellites they have.

[2:21:46] maybe it's just a double naming thing. Maybe there's two different companies. >> Go Galileo uses the utelat one webb low earth orbit satellite constellation which consists of somewhere around 600

[2:21:58] satellites according to the AI overview. Okay. So it's the utelsat one web. How Okay. So it's the utelsat one web. How many one web satellites are in orbit as of early March 2023? According to Wikipedia, there are 584.

[2:22:14] Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Well, anywh who a discussion question. Could this be a viable solution for shooting on location? I mean, potentially, but it's all going to

[2:22:27] depend on like Starlink, what the power requirements are and the the fixture requirements are for the uh for the base stations, which I haven't seen yet. stations, which I haven't seen yet. >> What is Starlink operating over?

[2:22:41] like what frequency or >> well this was saying RF or optical. Um >> Starlink's definitely not optical. >> Yeah, I feel like optical is going to be tough and they're they're trying to talk about the the six terabs per second but

[2:22:55] about the the six terabs per second but optical. So it's like >> Sounds pretty awesome. But like I I wonder um does your does your transfer

[2:23:10] get cancelled if a plane flies overhead or if there's a cloud or a or if there's a cloud or a >> what if a complicated flies overhead.

[2:23:22] It's very interesting to me though. That's crazy. Like it sounds kind of uh I'd like to know what the complications are and stuff like that. How much of a difference is it in latency if you're at like 40,000 ft versus if you're on the

[2:23:36] surface of the Earth for like a for like a low Earth orbit internet connection? I >> Huh? >> Like how high how high in feet are >> satellite to satellite is optical for Starlink? That makes sense. But am I am

[2:23:50] I misreading this? Is is their optical just satellite to satellite? Oh, >> okay. They're like 1.8 million feet, so it wouldn't make that much of a it wouldn't make that much of a difference.

[2:24:03] weird? Is it not optical down to earth? Is it just optical to each other's No way. >> So then it's are the way it's worded is anyways. Whatever. We're moving on.

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[2:26:11] required. That's a reference from one of Riley's CSPs for ODU if you haven't >> Yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic. >> Should go and watch more advertisements. We'll play chat. Yeah. Flow plane. What are you doing? I

[2:26:23] ads. >> I have seen people asking like, can we >> Yeah, we should do a 2025 compilation probably. >> man. I'm sore. >> You good, bro?

[2:26:35] >> I did badminton three days in a week. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and I just wrecked myself. I'm just I'm not as young as I once was. >> I mean, in fairness, I went pretty hard. I think even when I was younger, I

[2:26:48] pretty good doing this, but I think I like I kind of like pulled something in here. My left arm, ironically. What's up with that? Yeah, right. See, that's what with that? Yeah, right. See, that's what the face I made.

[2:27:01] >> Muscles in the back get real weird. >> The US government will be taking a 25% cut of AMD and Nvidia's AI sales to China. Uh, the US government has decided certain AI chips that AMD and Nvidia sell to China as part of new tariff

[2:27:15] rules. This isn't just a tax. It's tied to a broader export policy that now lets those companies export advanced AI processors like Nvidia's H200 and AMD's MI325X to China after importing them into the US first.

[2:27:30] So basically, yeah, there isn't actually a problem with our geopolitical rival having access to these advanced processors. They just need to like pay a bit more >> and be shipped around for no reason or

[2:27:43] specified specific performance and technical thresholds. Exporters must prove to the prove that the US market is fully supplied first and that shipments to China can't exceed half of what's sold in the US. All of which limits how

[2:27:56] many GPUs will actually move. The idea behind the cut is to let US firms get government extracts revenue instead of outright banning the sales. This policy challenges because it applies only to certain chips that meet specific

[2:28:10] criteria. So, good luck everyone with all of that. That seems like a perfectly good plan. Um, meanwhile, the US Department of Health and Human Services is worried about the dangers of radio signals and has removed web pages that

[2:28:25] assert that cell phones are safe. Really Really >> nice. So, at the highest level of the world's largest economy's government, we're actually like 5G paranoia. Really?

[2:28:41] >> This is this is this real? This timeline that we're on? >> Nice. >> Yeah. Mew says, uh, back to this again. An HHS representative directed by the MAHA initiative said that they removed

[2:28:54] the web pages that had old conclusions that required more research to identify gaps in knowledge in radio wave safety. A lot of the 5G hate that's out there is based on a handful of studies like one that showed a link between the

[2:29:08] resulted in the formation of tumors and nerves surrounding the hearts of male nerves surrounding the hearts of male rats but not female rats or mice. Um, optional editorializing says our notes from Mr. David Gochce. Most scientists

[2:29:20] see this study and say that the field requires more research, but many conspiratorial social media health influencers see that as the most because they've never seen real scientific proof before.

[2:29:33] Or if they have seen it, they wouldn't recognize it. I added the last bit. Uh emeritus of bioengineering at the University of Pennsylvania said in a cell phones for decades and so far

[2:29:46] brain cancer. Dr. Dr. Foster said, "This means that the risk, if it occurs at reliability." So, that's basically where we're at on that. And um we have

[2:29:58] apparently moved backwards now in terms of understanding of all of this, which is pretty neat. Tyler says, "There was a lawmaker in Florida posting about chemtrails this week." See, here's the thing. It's so chemtrails is one of

[2:30:13] those ones that's super easy to logic your way out of because the conspiracy theory is they put chemicals in the air for mind control. To which you reply, okay, then why isn't it controlling your mind and how are you able to see through

[2:30:29] >> Ah, I have superior lungs. >> I guess um you should test that. >> Try putting a plastic bag on your head. >> Nope. And then seeing how long you can

[2:30:41] breathe in it for. >> I can resist that because I have resisted the mind control. I [snorts] am undefeable. >> See, that's the problem with using logic to argue with illogical people.

[2:30:56] They're impervious to it. It's it's impervious because I am undefeable. impervious because I am undefeable. >> I can mute you. [laughter] have to mute yourself as well. [laughter] I cannot be defeated.

[2:31:17] >> Maybe I should just give up on all of this and go be a gay frog somewhere. this and go be a gay frog somewhere. [laughter] coming. >> Oh my. [snorts]

[2:31:32] apparently on pause while the company shifts its focus to AI. ASUS chairman Johnny Shei has stated that ASUS will no longer add new mobile phone models in the future. Instead, ASUS will focus on developing AI products such as robots

[2:31:46] and smart glasses. Uh, with that said, existing phones will continue to receive software updates and warranty support. Our discussion question from Mr. David an ASUS phone that you would actively recommend anyway? Is this a huge loss? I

[2:32:00] strongly believe a significant amount of companies are branding fairly obvious company and operational and directional changes as we are pivoting to AI in a hope that that gets enough attention to pump their stock.

[2:32:15] That's it. Same thing as people branding layoffs as return to office. Um I think it's the same thing. I think it's just companies doing company stuff and just branding the company stuff in the most stockp pumping way possible. And I think

[2:32:29] that's it. >> Migor in float plane chat says you still made phones. >> Yeah, but this is my point. Like why >> I don't know. It's a good question. >> So if you're on their side, maybe you

[2:32:42] >> Yeah. >> And maybe the way to stop is be like we're going to do AI stuff instead. >> Right. Right. >> When you probably could have done both. >> Yeah. It it seems to me Red Magic has

[2:32:54] >> Yeah. It it seems to me Red Magic has sort of like a monopoly on gaming phones >> Is there is there anyone I'm missing? I for it. >> I mean,

[2:33:07] tell, they don't have they don't do anything else. >> Sure. Yep. I've also never seen one in the wild. >> I have. Oh, >> I've actually also seen an ROG phone in

[2:33:19] the wild and not one that someone won at our Christmas party. Um, I was quite surprised to see it. Someone took a picture like at a Taiwanese tech mall or something and they they like had an ROG phone. I was like, what?

[2:33:33] >> It feels a little unfair that it was at a Taiwanese tech. a Taiwanese tech. >> Well, I don't make the rules. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyways, I think that's all this is. Personally, I don't blame

[2:33:45] blame them for trying to market it in a way that pumps a stock. It's just way that pumps a stock. It's just companies doing company stuff. companies doing company stuff. >> So, what will be our AI pivot?

[2:34:01] tell the AI the specs and we tell it the historical performance of various things. We inform it that companies generally go after price bands. We tell it what the cost of the device will be

[2:34:15] and then we ask it how it performs. >> That sounds really cheap. I'm in. >> Nice. >> Nice. >> Okay. >> Vimeo is laying off staff globally after

[2:34:28] >> Vimeo is laying off staff globally after its 1.38 billion sale to Bending Spoons. Bending Spoons for about 1.38 billion, Vimeo has cut a large chunk of its workforce with former employees saying it felt like almost everyone was let go,

[2:34:42] team. Which >> isn't that like what Vimeo does? >> Established in 2004, a year prior to YouTube, Vimeo has carved out a niche as catering primarily to professional creators and businesses rather than

[2:34:58] viral entertainment. It's actually the second set of job cuts in a few months. 10% of their staff before the a bit of a history of buying tech platforms like we transfer, Evernote,

[2:35:12] >> and then making deep cuts afterward, which makes this feel a little less >> I I think you could I think calling this a bit of a history is completely fair will editorialize a little bit and say this is what they do. Um they they they

[2:35:31] enter into spaces, purchase companies up, consolidate, simplify, up, consolidate, simplify, lay off, fire, take profit, and then who knows after that. [sighs]

[2:35:49] like who they >> products. Vimeo, Evernote, Eventbrite, >> products. Vimeo, Evernote, Eventbrite, Wei Transfer, Meetup, Koot, AOL, Streamyard, Issu, Mile IQ, Harvest, Break Cove, and

[2:36:03] Remendy. Apparently, they have a thousand employees. >> Wow, indeed. >> Private equity go. >> Private equity go. >> Yeah, no kidding.

[2:36:23] >> Yes, they do. >> Should they use float plane? >> That'd be pretty sick. Um,

[2:36:36] that'd be pretty sick. I've always seen getting them on float plane as the like the I don't know, the special artifact, the holy grail, whatever. I always thought that would be really cool. Um, I really like what they do over there.

[2:36:55] >> Are we ready? I don't know. I think we could be. We need to do some work to make our thing more like what I think that they thing more like what I think that they want. Um

[2:37:12] Like that'd be I I wouldn't obviously think that they would just upload to float plane. That would be stupid. But >> like if they were to do something like Sauce Plus where they had their own >> but they they do I think I haven't dove

[2:37:24] into this in a while but I I would make the assumption that Vimeo is just >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So their site is actually just theirs anyways. >> Man, they have so much cool stuff. My

[2:37:36] goodness, they make so much content. It's actually mindblowing. company. It's it's it's funny because they have a crazy amount of subscribers from what I've heard. I don't know if it's real or not. Um but they have a

[2:37:51] they have a wild amount of subscribers claimed at least. Um they have a insane amount of like shows and originals and different things that they make. Um but

[2:38:04] they're so like not super public cuz all their stuff is >> Yeah. And it's it's just fascinating how like successful they've been at this like successful they've been at this model. Um

[2:38:20] yeah, I don't know. They're a cool group. Like us just doing infra infra and not doing the platform.

[2:38:33] >> It would look like yet again something we've never done before. we've never done before. [laughter] theory crafted scenarios where it's something like that, but that's not a

[2:38:47] like becoming Vimeo was never a target because Vimeo existed, you know, like it >> Yeah. >> Uh, this was just linked by Max Odrive in float plane chat. Uh, websites using Vimeo.

[2:39:01] Vimeo. Download a list of all 2,115,71 current Vimeo customers. >> Oh, yeah. Builtwith is a really cool >> Oh, that's super cool. >> Yeah, builtwith is awesome actually.

[2:39:14] >> Huh. I mean, is it at some point should we like try and make it fly or should we just like not really bother? You know, >> one of the problems um and this is like it's a problem and

[2:39:28] it's also a big part of the reason why we still exist. So I don't know I don't of the original tenets of philoplane was basically like it should always be as possible. >> Oh yeah.

[2:39:41] >> Oh yeah. >> Um it needs to be as independent and and self-reliant as possible. All these other types of things all of those other types of things all of those pillars that we initially laid out

[2:39:53] pillars that we initially laid out strongly resist explosive growth. you how do you how do you how do you build to scale when you can't out hire >> Yeah, >> it's like it's we we set up the pillars

[2:40:06] possible. >> We really did. >> While still making a software tool. So the team's like tiny. >> Yes. Throwing that out there. >> The fact that it exists at all at the

[2:40:20] [laughter] And I've had long conversations with it actually doesn't make any sense. And I'm like, well, it it is a thing, so I don't know what to tell you. Um, >> Gibberim says, "Their platform website

[2:40:35] They need active platform support rather than just a back end." >> Interesting. Okay. >> Um, and Ryaw says, "Dropout allegedly recently. Could handle that kind of load?"

[2:40:47] couldn't scale to a >> we could scale to that. Yeah. like float plane is it's small but not because it has to be. manageable. It's uh >> I don't know what features they have and

[2:41:02] this a while ago but it's it's been a while. in the way of like analytics and tracking than we do. Like we're pretty loosey goosey about >> they can they can give subscriptions.

[2:41:18] >> We should we should do that. Yeah. >> Yeah. and also trial subscriptions and >> Yeah. So, like there's there's things we would do whenever you get to it. We're >> We're not we're [laughter] not we're not ready this second. Um I would have loved

[2:41:32] to be I wish this happened a little bit later cuz I would love to work with subscribers thing obviously company hat on. That's really cool. But like I just think like man they're such a unique

[2:41:46] like I I find talking to creators at events fascinating. Like Open Sauce is one of my favorite events to go to because you can just hang around with a the time and just talk about like what they're doing and how it's working. And

[2:41:59] they're doing and how it's working. And man is Dropout unique. Like my god. for lowquality merch. Maybe you could help them there too. I don't know. We're like we're in this weird we're at this weird

[2:42:12] kind of inflection point where I think we kind of have to decide where we're going. We um we're not really continuing to scale the way that we used to years ago just on our own. and we're not really um

[2:42:31] just on our own. and we're not really um it would require a large investment and it would require a large investment and a huge leap of faith to become like a service a creator services company in the way that I think you guys are kind

[2:42:44] the way that I think you guys are kind of envisioning as a future for for LMG of envisioning as a future for for LMG um slash CW/floplane um slash CW/floplane and Um,

[2:43:07] it's not an easy decision, right? Cuz I've gotten pretty comfortable. I've gotten pretty comfortable. Do I want to bet it all again? Do I want Do I want to bet it all again? Do I want to convince my wife to bet it all again?

[2:43:19] to convince my wife to bet it all again? For what? change my quality of life if

[2:43:31] LMGCWFP was a 10 times larger company. Um, and that's the thing like we could

[2:43:43] >> I don't love the idea of bringing in venture capital to take a chunk to inject the cash to build and scale this thing. Managing people is the thing I like least about my job. >> To be clear, it's not that I don't like

[2:43:59] the people. I actually I I love the team that I get to work with every day. privileged things about my life. Actually, out with people. >> Yeah. [laughter] So lame.

[2:44:18] Yeah, I don't know. Hi Biz says a company I worked for hit about 60 worked well. I don't think chasing more and more is always the best. I really liked working there. Yeah, but I bet you outgrew it. So

[2:44:34] never a perfect answer. There's people on the team that will not want to grow. Um, I mean, I've been rather outspoken about not having wanted to grow and then

[2:44:48] I mean, I think we've felt the pain of that growth. We've also reaped the benefits of that growth. It's not it's not a it's not a simple answer. >> Um, but there's some people that won't stay if you do that forced growth, and

[2:45:01] >> Yeah. >> So, it's like >> Stephen J asks, "Have you ever thought of putting CW outside of the merch anymore. You have such quality products. I just bought a bunch of the plain

[2:45:13] thoughts were like, >> why aren't these just a product? And and view. And yeah, we'd love to, >> but it's like it's not that it's not that simple. Like from a logistics standpoint, from

[2:45:28] Like from a logistics standpoint, from an economic standpoint, um like you'd be you like on paper, right? It seems simple. It seems simple. Luke Luke laugher Twitch Twitch

[2:45:43] >> right. >> I mean, well, like Yeah. >> Sure. Sure. >> Luke gets this cleanup wizard shirt from

[2:45:58] LTT store and he goes, "Oh, sorry. Who makes this?" And do the label say CW yet or do they say LTT still? >> It looks like it does. Uh, yes. So, he sees this label and he goes, "Oh, wow. Creator warehouse. I'm a

[2:46:12] creator." Uh, and I wear things and I I'm in a house. Wow. It's like it's a match made in heaven. >> Um, and he goes, "I'd love to I'd love for my my Luke laugher. I'm going to make a burp shirt and it's just going to

[2:46:26] be a budgy on the front and the budgie is going to be looking like this and going to be like burp and >> be like war. >> be like war. >> Sure. You know what? Love it. B war b

[2:46:40] war shirt and uh yeah. Yeah. 10 of 10. Jeremian says I would buy >> Yes. >> Now what? Luke has this idea. He has this shirt that he's like, "This is pretty cool.

[2:46:56] How do we get that graphic on the shirt? How do we get it onto a website where you will buy it? How do we manage Luke's exposure to this inventory?" >> I don't want any exposure.

[2:47:08] >> No, he doesn't. How do we manage the lead times of the inventory that we will I guess we what we have to carry now to so that he has blank shirts for him to he feels like it. What will be the minimum print quantities for the print

[2:47:24] shop that we work with? We don't own our own print shop. We work with a local print shop in the states that we work on next to our US US3PL that's going to be recently that

[2:47:38] >> Just print on demand, dummy. >> Yeah. Uh okay. Who who will do it? What will be the costs of that? Um >> times. >> Yeah. Like silk screening is way more cost- effective over a certain quantity

[2:47:52] and print on demand direct to garment printing is way more cost- effective for very low quantities. But these are going to be really expensive shirts and that's long will it take you to get the shirt? >> Oh, yeah. Oh, dude. It'll take way

[2:48:06] longer. >> Take a minute. Um it's Hurly Time says just open your own print shop. I mean, yeah, if I had a casual I think the last time we looked into it was around $400,000 to $600,000

[2:48:20] space. If >> I and people here are going to be managing it, it's going to need to be a space around here, which is money. [groaning] >> Um, staff, like nothing is that

[2:48:37] simple. How will how will we make sure that the customers that are buying from Luke all um paid the taxes correctly and all the like customs and whatever nonsense on their shipment and we make sure that are

[2:48:53] we handling Luke's accounting now? Will he remit all of those correctly and is that >> also like W show bingo said print to orders the only real solution have a 3 to 5 week time on all orders. Yeah, I'm

[2:49:06] that I just bought to show up in two months. Like, huh? I uh that's always been really frustrating for me about print to order stuff is like I don't know. Am I a

[2:49:20] spoiled I have it now dopamine machine? Maybe. But assuming that's just production and then they actually have to ship it and stuff like I that's a really long time to wait.

[2:49:35] Yeah. And and to be clear, these are all things that are solvable. So everyone who's suggesting solutions, you are 100% right. But the question is, is that that where we want to invest our capital because we have a limited amount of both

[2:49:52] of those things. What if instead of doing any of that, I just made another video every week? >> That'd be kind of cool. Mhm. >> Um, probably higher profit margins >> and we have room for that

[2:50:05] >> We have upload slots. >> Yep. Um, or we just make another really cool product for LT store and then we don't have to split margin with another creator. >> We do another podcast.

[2:50:20] dudes with facial hair podcast. >> There isn't enough white dudes with >> You're right. >> We should add another one. the market asking for us. >> I agree with you so completely that like

[2:50:36] probably start beating each other off. >> Mhm. hair circle jerking. >> Mhm. >> In the podcast space. >> Maybe we could we could innovate by

[2:50:48] having three white dudes. >> Yeah. I mean, uh we could get another >> Yeah. Well, no, you can't be in the corner cuz we'd have to be in a circle. Obviously, it's just physics, Dan. Yeah, but I mean technically like a triangle

[2:51:00] fits into a circle. >> Oh, he wants a [ __ ] chair. Thanks, Dan. See you later. [laughter] >> Didn't get it. Didn't get it. >> Didn't get it. Didn't get it. >> That's fine.

[2:51:12] >> That's okay. I got more [ __ ] for you later. would I mean, we had a conversation about like how cool it would be to

[2:51:27] be the backend for Dropout like a month ago in like a float plane staff call and everybody was like, "Yeah, sick." Also, not quite ready for that right now, but focus on our app. We want to actually

[2:51:42] we're not blind to the people to the things that people have been asking for. Um, we want to get those things figured out. Uh, we've been having some trouble with our app where we're where there's a new head of Do I talk about that? I

[2:51:58] don't name them, but I can say that it exists. The new role that was hired. >> There's new head of HR in here, and I've already talked to them about hiring for appdev for Flowplane. Like, it's we want to figure that out. Um, if that's

[2:52:12] figured out though, there isn't like a ton left. like we're not ready, but we're not far from being ready. >> And we spent like a solid like two years, you know, dealing with a bunch of the like early days tech debt and stuff

[2:52:27] to the point where we're pretty modern in terms of like the tech stack. We're >> Uh the team, like I said, is super smart. Um and I think would be like >> ready for a challenge as long as they're as they're resourced appropriately. Like

[2:52:43] >> we're just small. Um, >> yeah, it's small. >> Uh, we have one more topic. By the way, David's answer for what was the last relevant Ubisoft game is he thinks other than 2023's Principers of the Lost

[2:52:57] Crown, which was great and then the team behind it was disbanded. The last great or majorly relevant UB game in his opinion is Assassin's Creed Odyssey back which is rough. >> Odyssey was sick and in my opinion

[2:53:10] >> Odyssey was sick and in my opinion underrated. Uh, last topic for today. New leaks show Nvidia's N1X gaming laptops are reportedly set to debut this laptops are reportedly set to debut this quarter with N2 on its way for 2027. A

[2:53:23] new Digi Times report says that Nvidia's N1X Windows on ARM laptop chip is back on the internal road map with a Q1 2026 consumer launch followed by three more variants in Q2 likely aimed at the enterprise. This lines up with reports

[2:53:35] of an unreleased ARMbased N1X CPU being spotted in a shipping manifest for an spotted in a shipping manifest for an unnamed Dell laptop. N1 and N1X is confirmed to be the same silicon used in the DGX Spark, Nvidia's AI workstation

[2:53:49] steroids. Considering that sources say that the nextG N2 series is already on its way for Q3 2027, it seems a little strange that N1 wasn't even mentioned at CES 2026. I had a little off thereord conversation

[2:54:05] with a fellow tech journalism bro um that uh that I because I don't know if he was at liberty to talk about any of this, but

[2:54:18] liberty to talk about any of this, but basically apparently um this silicon has been an absolute cluster bomb over at Nvidia. And uh bomb over at Nvidia. And uh none of the none of the external um

[2:54:33] unimpressedness with the DGX Spark was a major surprise to to my bro. Um, I the first thing he said about it was like, "Does this thing overheat?" or something like that. That was that was a pretty epic burn.

[2:54:48] >> Yeah. So, DGX Spark has [clears throat] uh has has not been quite as impressive. uh has has not been quite as impressive. And the these ARM Armon Windows gaming laptops have been I think the first time they were supposed to launch was like

[2:55:03] CES 2025 or was it Computex before that? I can't remember the first time they were supposed to launch, but they've been punted down the road been punted down the road multiple times at this point.

[2:55:15] Um, LOL Inverse says, "DGX Spark is great for concurrency." LOL. All right. great for concurrency." LOL. All right. [snorts] Well, there you go. >> Should we do this thing? Let's do this after dark thing. Wow, you guys are

[2:55:30] loving the cleanup wizard merch. Products. Damn it. Ah, Products. Damn it. Ah, got them.

[2:55:43] A lot of people picking up minus cat tips pins. >> Pins are great. Love the pins. >> They are. They're so cute. >> I requested a couple of the mouse pads as well for friend of mine

[2:55:56] >> I might steal one, too. >> Nice. All right. Um, talking of mats. Hey DL, question for Lionus. Will the Modmat have ESD protection? If so, what are you using to test it? >> Uh, yes. And I'm using Tatiana to test

[2:56:12] it. Also, I think the uh CW engineering team was involved in that as well. Lionus, how often should one paint the walls of their home to maintain it for selling later on? And are there any

[2:56:26] renovations that provide a lot of value to a house buyer? Mom renovating house right now. So, this is a funny thing, right? Because different There's a lot to unpack here. Um, so many people wait until the moment

[2:56:43] that they're moving out of their home to freshen it up for sale. And I have to imagine that people do this because it's a triedand-true strategy to maximize the value of your home. I have to assume that. I don't know that for sure. Um,

[2:57:00] and if it was me and I was shopping for a house, I would actually much rather they didn't paint it. I would actually much rather they had, as I walk into this house with scuffs and dings everywhere on the

[2:57:16] walls, one of those paint chip books, and it just included fresh paint because then I could pick the color, which would obviously be more likely to be a color I >> Oh, wait. Interesting. So, you're saying like, "We will paint it for you before

[2:57:30] pick what color." >> Cuz I'm I'm paying for it anyway, so I >> Nope. You get white. >> I think I think that painting a house right before you sell it is causing an epidemic of blandness.

[2:57:45] >> Because resale white is the only color that anyone's going to want to paint on it to make it look fresh and and open and bright. And as soon as you move into a new home, and I've done this that's been freshly

[2:57:59] painted, you kind of go, "Well, well, it was just painted. I'd be an idiot for YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO do it until finally you move out having spent the last 10 years of your life living in like dinged, dented, messy wall land

[2:58:17] looks so great. I wonder if we should have just lived here for longer. Maybe we should have just spent money on the house at a time when we would be the ones to enjoy it instead of these new people who are moving in and they don't

[2:58:31] even like that color. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. [snorts] terms of what I'm looking for when I shop for a home is that I'm not going to

[2:58:46] suffer from like death by a thousand cuts. But I don't know that that's the norm. like I'm I'm looking for, you know, hey, is this a place that looks paint? >> Oh my god. Sorry, I saw a Reddit thread

[2:58:59] that uh I think is actually a brilliant idea. They they said that you should get tech house. >> I did see that. I I don't know that another video like going through it again would add a ton of value, but

[2:59:13] sick. >> I'll cons I'm considering it. >> I'll cons I'm considering it. >> Oh, I think it would be cool. Very cool. >> Awesome. >> He is a walking content machine and he's

[2:59:28] such a nice guy. Just like the most genuine guy, you guys. Um, love Medi. >> What happened? >> What happened to the Lionus does vibe >> Good question. >> I actually don't know. It's

[2:59:44] >> Uh, yeah. Well, at some point it will it will happen. will happen. >> Yeah. Our writers have a lot of balls. >> Mhm. They do. >> And they got to juggle them.

[2:59:58] >> Uh, sometimes you got to >> How many balls do they have? >> Terrible. Stop. Don't hesitate. Get go. Move on. [laughter] Hey, >> stop. [clears throat] Hey, LD. >> Can you do a seated floss?

[3:00:15] >> Oh, what is he even doing? What is even happening? What is happening? [laughter] >> He's blanking. This man's blanking. [laughter]

[3:00:30] >> Oh my jeez. Oh well. Hey LLD Lionus, since Final Fantasy Tactics remaster has sold a million copies, do

[3:00:42] you think there is hope for a sequel or prequel to it? maybe pick up Orlando's story and would you play it? >> I'd play the crap out of it. Uh, I mean, the fact that it took this long for them to

[3:00:55] it's good, but like not super high effort remaster it um is is remarkable and gives me no faith. But also, hey, they sold a million freaking copies, so that seems like for a financially motivated company like

[3:01:10] Square Enix, like a hello, hello, maybe you should do more of this kind of completely ignore. I mean, don't that isn't that Yeah. activist investor that's like, "Hey, you guys are being really stupid and like

[3:01:25] now." So, maybe they'll listen, maybe they won't. >> Maybe Ubisoft needs one of those. >> Yeah, maybe they do. Won't be me. I significant chunk of the company at that share price, but would I want it?

[3:01:40] >> And and to be clear, no, I can't. That is joke. Ubisoft is still worth so so >> you own their IP. We could do some cool stuff. [snorts]

[3:01:52] >> we do some sick stuff, dude. >> Total value. What's their total value? >> The bar is pretty low, Luke. >> Exactly. >> So good. >> Lionus Studios.

[3:02:07] Sure. Would not call it that. I would not call a company my name again. If you had Ubisoft, you could probably employ enough people that it would make sense to do some form of like

[3:02:19] >> housing development. >> Okay, Dan. Next one. I've given you Lionus Town. Maybe >> I have given you frameworks in the past >> And he ignored me.

[3:02:32] >> Interesting. Very interesting. >> Lubisoft. [laughter] >> Lubisoft. [laughter] >> So what? We do all X-rated games. >> So what? We do all X-rated games. You'd make some money, dude. Oh, man.

[3:02:45] >> Dang. Oh, that's good. Hi, DLL. Question for Lionus. Which LDD merch item do you think didn't get as much love as it deserved? I love some of your one-off products, like the Ramsticks. >> So cute. I saw mine the other day

[3:02:59] for the ski season and we were sorting our outdoor wear and I was like, the our outdoor wear and I was like, the Ramstick scarf? That's That's uh well for people these days since it's the only RAM that they might be able to

[3:03:13] afford. Uh but but it's so cute. It was so cute. Uh what didn't get as much love >> I'm going to answer this even though it was specifically asked to Lionus, but was specifically asked to Lionus, but that uh all black 3D printed down jacket

[3:03:27] >> Oh, the 3D down >> is genuinely like an incredible jacket. >> is genuinely like an incredible jacket. And I think it was like too expensive for a product that people don't get to try on first because everyone that

[3:03:40] actually tried that jacket on was like, "Oh, this is very nice. >> But it Yeah, >> the dropout hoodie. >> Love very legit >> this hoodie. Yeah.

[3:03:53] >> they don't let me wear it because it's not for sale anymore in any like sizes not for sale anymore in any like sizes that matter, but I freaking love that hoodie. Just the and I just I love the idea behind it, the the multiple layers

[3:04:09] of the meaning, how it looks like a university or college hoodie, but I university or college hoodie, but I didn't graduate, so it just is LTT. And it's like I don't know. I I love it. And and also just like in the tech space

[3:04:22] that whole drop out but be successful anyway thing is such a thing like I just and also LTT is sure entertaining but also this may surprise some people on some corners of the internet but we do

[3:04:37] >> um >> is definitely education. I just loved all the all the layers of LTT school of hard knocks like Yeah, exactly. charge nuclei um hoodie and it was also just such a quality garment. I love the the

[3:04:52] such a quality garment. I love the the fit and f the feel of it and I just fit and f the feel of it and I just yep wanted that to do better. We ended up having to liquidate a lot of them which hurt because it was just such a

[3:05:05] like burn them rather than like melt them? >> No, no, you got to do it for yourself, too. >> Low quality. Ding. Get out of here. >> Hi DL. What is the new completely new

[3:05:20] hardware that you are excited about that's not just [snorts] an improvement on other hardware? For example, for smartphone, for smartwatch. >> I don't think so. >> I think this is like

[3:05:35] excited about Yeah. >> What is a new thing? Can you name a new >> What is a new thing? Can you name a new thing? Um I think Apple topic, right? >> I think the the Valve Steam Frame is kind of a new

[3:05:48] >> but that's an on hardware. >> It is sort of but it's like it's it's a standalone headset, but also it's a it uses the onboard computer to do wireless streaming better than it's ever been done before for VR. And it's a

[3:06:02] >> but been done before. It's a PC VR headset, but it >> like has like really good quality and mobility, and you can also play like Windows x86 games on the ARM CPU. It's

[3:06:16] like, okay, fine. It's an improvement. >> Yeah. >> Um >> cuz first smartphone, first smart watch. >> Theoretically, I'm still excited about smart glasses, but I just like can't

[3:06:28] motivate myself to put a pair on. So, I don't know how to reconcile. If ASUS that'll be kind of neat. But >> ASUS on the software side, though. >> Yeah, I kind of doubt it. Sorry, guys. >> I mean, they've done some stuff that's

[3:06:42] been better than expected. Like their software on the ROG Ally is much better >> Okay. >> Their overlay stuff, it just it just understanding is not that simple.

[3:06:54] >> I think if there's a robot that can do my laundry and do the dishes, that would be huge. and not like fall over or smash things while doing so and not be not be remotely pirated or uh piloted. My

[3:07:07] goodness. Um that's also a fairly important one. I'd also really like it to not be calling home about every single detail of my time. >> HomeKit smart robot.

[3:07:23] >> Yes. >> It could turn off your lights for you pressing [laughter] the switch. >> That is so smart. Switch with extra >> That's so retro. It's so vintage. >> Steps, man. [laughter]

[3:07:37] >> I really like that. But yeah, if it's if it's a home kit, I I control it. It's uh it it doesn't phone home everything that ever happens. Um and it's a robot and it other various annoying things like that. If we can take out the garbage, stuff

[3:07:52] >> huge. You could ask garbage would be amazing. ask it to set an alarm and it would grab your phone and then just do that for you. >> See, that's >> we just need we just need like

[3:08:06] >> more Boston Dynamics robots cuz they can just do everything that the the things can. This is where we're going. >> How much do you think the robot that isn't just adwear is going to cost and then everyone buys the one that's just

[3:08:19] spying on you and serves you ads? >> $25,000 >> more. There's no way. No, no shot, Luke. >> I did cheap car. That's what I'll shoot >> It's really, really hard to buy a nonsmart TV right now.

[3:08:33] >> I'll put it I'll say I'll say that >> that's the only way they reach these >> It'll probably be impossible to buy a >> Yeah. >> uh non always internet connected smart home robot, but I would like it to be a

[3:08:47] thing cuz I don't know if I >> That's how you break it. >> So much fun though. I was wondering why it was broken at like that spot of all >> There's no way I did that, too. >> No, that's the the problem is most

[3:09:00] >> or the chair. One of the two. >> Then why isn't mine broken? >> Then why isn't mine broken? >> Skill issue. >> All right. What do we got next? Dan. >> Oh, yeah. My job. Uh,

[3:09:15] hey LLD Luke. My wife wants to know how your birds are. I don't, but she wears >> Okay, well, cover your ears. I'll talk directly [laughter] to your wife. Um,

[3:09:27] don't let him make her chicken. [laughter] There's birds involved. Get out, man. >> Um, they're doing all right. >> Yeah, we can be friends. >> Oh my. Um, yeah, they're they're doing

[3:09:42] good, actually. The one of them was recently sick again. Uh, but it was very very shortlived, which is great. >> The bird or the sickness? I can infer. >> I'd [snorts] hope so. Um, but yeah,

[3:09:57] they're they're doing good. All three of them now. Uh, for people that don't know amount of people know that one, but maybe not everyone. Uh, there there's three birds now. Um, one which was we had already like purchased it from a

[3:10:12] breeder to be a buddy for our previous bird and then our previous bird passed away. So then the time window from having a bird to having a bird again was that we already receiving cuz we bought it. Uh and then we bought that bird a

[3:10:25] it. Uh and then we bought that bird a buddy. Um and then there was a bird that buddy. Um and then there was a bird that was out in the wild in in >> was in the park in Langley, right? >> No, it was in Richmond, but it was in a

[3:10:40] park. Um, and this would be the second bird that uh, Emma recovered. Um, but this one, no one claimed it. And we we tried very hard to scream from every

[3:10:53] rooftop possible that we had this bird and no one ever claimed it. Uh, we talked to our vet about it and they said it was fairly telltale situation of Mhm. >> Um there was other reasons why they

[3:11:08] thought that and it did make sense, but I'm not going to go into all of that. Um and now we just have third bird, but third is female bird and other two birds third is female bird and other two birds are boy birds. So birds cannot mix. Uh I

[3:11:23] tell. They look pretty similar to me. But uh the second there is a female bird in vicinity of the boyirds, it is party time. They are very excited.

[3:11:35] >> [laughter] >> and go a little nuts. Uh, so it is very obvious that we can't necessarily let them all kind of hang out together too much. Um, so that adds some complications and whatnot. But yeah,

[3:11:47] all right. Birds are good. >> Cool. >> you mentioned earlier that you're building out a home lab. What kind of things are you thinking of setting up? >> Ah, dude, I want to do lots of stuff.

[3:12:00] Um, a decent amount of this is just like I feel like it is hyper overdue. Um, I want to know more about the people on about what the people on my teams do. Um, so I some of the goal is to use similar things that we use here. Um, so

[3:12:17] better understanding of what they're talking about. Um, and the like the issues that they run into and and just things like that. Um,

[3:12:31] >> So, why? >> I don't know. Like it better this way. >> one's not perfectly level, though. >> That's fine. Just relax. I like it this >> Stop it. >> That still works. That's fine.

[3:12:44] >> Yeah, [laughter] Um I I want to get a a Plex server up to um live stream home videos to my family. >> Sure.

[3:12:59] >> Um yeah. Uh I also I'd like to do some things that I want to do that it's I I feel like I'm very overdue on really uh actually pushing. Yeah.

[3:13:14] As a student and IT worker at a university, I've noticed that the newer university, I've noticed that the newer generation is less tech literate. Do you think the oversimplification in handholding has contributed to this

[3:13:27] issue? Hold on. I've got something. I've got something uh to share with you guys. This is a great meme I came across

[3:13:42] and it's not too v on phone or tablets cuz I heard like what's a file system for a lot of people cuz they're mostly interacting with like a phone or a tablet or you know an application. They

[3:13:56] don't have to know what a what's a D drive or a C drive or like >> what's a network share. >> Okay, Dan, I just sent you like my >> Okay, Dan, I just sent you like my favorite meme from the last week.

[3:14:11] I want a YouTube app on my computer. Shut up, pug boy. Get out. [laughter] I >> actually do. >> I wish less things were just browser. >> Here's Lionus's favorite meme.

[3:14:27] >> Here's Lionus's favorite meme. >> Favorite meme of the week. computer at work. And it's exactly like training a boomer. There is exactly one generation that can rotate a PDF and there will never be another. The

[3:14:41] knowledge dies with us. [laughter] >> So good. It's kind of true. Go jellyfin >> So good. It's kind of true. Go jellyfin and swim upstream. Yeah. I I don't know if I want to do Plex or not, but I want to do like, you know, video home video

[3:14:54] to do like, you know, video home video distribution to multi houses. distribution to multi houses. >> Yeah. >> Hold on. I just want to jump in and say generally speaking our staff has

[3:15:08] actually been really good. >> Like we have younger people on staff. >> Oh, >> and there are absolutely zoomers [snorts] and younger people who are very capable technically. I just want to

[3:15:20] generalizations are just generalizations. They're not universally applicable. Okay, carry on. >> Very good. >> Very good. >> Hi, wll. I'm a high school chemistry

[3:15:34] teacher. The Green Brothers have a bit of an empire with YouTube education content via Crash Course. Do you have connections with them? Would love I've ever I don't think I've ever met either of the Green Brothers. I um I

[3:15:49] either of the Green Brothers. I um I admire them from a distance. admire them from a distance. Uh one of the ways that I can find out is just checking my inbox. No, I have never

[3:16:03] corresponded with uh either of the Green Brothers

[3:16:19] Downer. Maybe I should try and do that. You never know unless you try, right? >> Mhm. Thanks, [snorts] Luke. >> Very deep comment. Yes. >> Hi, DLL. Question for Luke.

[3:16:34] >> As a software developer, I come across other developers who see errors as something only others can solve. Any tips on how to encourage them to see errors as opportunities to learn? >> Oh man, this was a little bit confusing.

[3:16:50] >> Any tips on No, no. I I I understand. >> I understand it too. >> Uh that's a tough one. Some people I don't know if you'll ever really be able to get that through to them. Um I think if you are leading or managing those

[3:17:03] people I think you make it very clear that this is a required part of career progression um but to a certain degree that's just a performance issue. Some people will never resolve that and it will make their careers um halt in

[3:17:17] progression and that's sometimes where people just sort of stop uh is because they can't get their minds around that. It's it's a very difficult thing to have It's it's a very difficult thing to have as a programmer. Uh [laughter]

[3:17:31] as a programmer. Uh [laughter] uh I find a lot of people that no that train of thought doesn't make a ton of sense. I I think like solving errors is a natural constant state of a software developer. So if

[3:17:45] they can't do that, they're going to be hyper limited in their career. And if you try to communicate to them that to them, hopefully they absorb it and grow. I've seen this happen with people. It's not that it it it doesn't happen. I have

[3:17:58] just also for sure seen it not happen with people and you can't save them all. So do what you can. But yeah, I think I would I would tie it pretty directly into like look, you will stop progressing if you don't

[3:18:13] figure this out. So you have to figure this out. Apparently John Green said recommendation. I don't remember that, but I recommend computers to a lot of people, so [laughter] that would be a little embarrassing.

[3:18:27] server for Santa Claus. You don't remember? Like, oh yeah, sorry, slipped How do you forget something like that? I don't know. That's a that's a big you'd >> Yeah. [laughter] >> And like the villain is like or the the

[3:18:43] like, "You killed my dad." And the villain's like, "You'd have to be more >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You recommended a computer. [laughter] [gasps]

[3:18:56] >> So, is are there programmers that just program and then don't fix it when it doesn't work? >> Is that what this is talking about? life, Dan. Do you think there are programmers who just program and don't

[3:19:09] >> That's why I was a little confused cuz it's like, okay, we have errors or like done your job then. No, it's like if they're struggling to accomplish something, they'll just give up. >> Oh, yeah. That's so much worse.

[3:19:24] that's the crux of >> this is how I'm interpreting it. Um so they'll be like I mean problem hard and then they'll try to just go to someone else and I mean sometimes >> that might make sense. Uh we we try to

[3:19:38] grind on it for a bit and try to solve it yourself. But at a certain point you kind of wasting time. >> I heard it here first. At a certain >> I heard it here first. At a certain point you should seek help. Luke 2026.

[3:19:52] >> Extremely deep. [laughter] >> Uh but but you should try to solve it yourself first. >> Not wrong words.

[3:20:05] they had at CES? Wires are still needed regardless of what they say. Well, you answered your own question, didn't you? This is kind of like um Okay, this is my favorite thing. Hold on. I'm just going to search for We're going to go We're

[3:20:19] >> Are they like battery? >> I'm going to search for projector. What >> Hey. >> Anyway, that doesn't matter. The point is we're going to go to like a mainstream type of projector brand. H

[3:20:35] seriously. Okay, let's let's let's go let's pick on let's pick on LG. Let's pick on LG. Cinebeam. Okay, let's pick on LG Cinebeam. So, I'm going to I'm going to click Shut up.

[3:20:49] >> Oh my god. I'm trying to use your prompts. >> Stupid website. Okay, let's click this thing. Wow, what a great design that I'd thing. Wow, what a great design that I'd love to look at that. Wow, this is such

[3:21:03] a Oh, wow. This is a shockingly honest deployment. Except it also isn't because where is this cord going? Where is this going? This is your couch is there like

[3:21:16] you you're completely ignoring the fact. Look at this. Look at this. this. It's not plugged in in any of these situations. >> It's also not one of those times in a

[3:21:29] it. >> Minimal Q design, right? But it's all [ __ ] unless it actually runs wirelessly, which as far as I can tell,

[3:21:41] it doesn't. >> There are so many uh they hide the cable behind a coffee machine. A coffee thing. I don't drink >> Far right. >> That Oh, yeah.

[3:21:55] or something? >> So, they're showing Yes. So, it can be going into the battery bank. >> But like, where is the >> Where is the projector in this shot? >> That's awesome.

[3:22:08] >> This is clearly just complete horseshit. >> Oh, yeah. That's amazing. >> And so, I have a very similar issue um with whatever you were talking about. Yes. wireless TVs. I have a very similar issue with wireless TVs as I have with

[3:22:23] this type of projector marketing. It's all fantasy. It's all pie in the sky. What if everything was winging wireless? It's not wireless. So, what are you even talking about? If I want to play on my Switch, well, I'm going to have to have

[3:22:37] need that. I'm going to have to have HDMI into some box somewhere because as far as I can tell, the Switch doesn't have magical LA uh wireless display

[3:22:50] power for my Switch. So, I'm going to need a media console anyway. So, I might need a media console anyway. So, I might as well just have one then.

[3:23:02] Yeah. So, basically, they're stupid and I think they're stupid. I do Glenn and putting one in the tech house though, just because we can. >> Drill some walls. >> Heck yeah.

[3:23:16] >> I do Glenn and Dinus. Is there any tech you'd like to see added to modern car me do some gear shopping. >> Honestly, >> buttons, some dials. >> I don't even You know what?

[3:23:29] >> I'm more piano black. >> I'm about to have the hottest of takes. >> Don't need them. We need less. Actually, >> my car is less. >> My car is almost all glass and I love it.

[3:23:44] >> Oh, I know. I don't like it. >> I uh I I don't I It It's interesting to me because I I hear a lot of people talk about how much how desperately they need their climate controls, for instance, to to be physical switches. And I'm sitting

[3:23:58] here going, "Why are you touching it? The fan is set comfortable with and then you never touch it again. Like touch it again. Like >> you also have discussed how

[3:24:13] things >> and then you have to change them back. >> so just because you think her opinion is wrong does not change the fact that you still have to interact with it. >> It's so little though. It's like I just

[3:24:28] really land. >> That's fair. That's fair. But it also just it still it I don't know man. I don't know what to tell you. It just touch screen. >> I was a Rivian not that long ago and had

[3:24:44] to interact with the touchcreen and it just felt like the dumbest thing in the world. >> Why are these not buttons? I I don't buttons again. I think you could have some stuff in the menus, but like

[3:24:58] >> all I would want to see is just sort of more more thoughtful. I'd love to see Android Auto and CarPlay be more reliable. That's something. Um I' I'd

[3:25:10] basically I would just love like a minor feature and bug fix pass on my car and otherwise it'd be perfect. So, for example, I have a couple of programmable and I have one that's like up on the dash here. If both of those supported

[3:25:24] alternate functions with long press and double press, I would be happy as a pig. >> that'd be pretty sweet. >> Um, if my if my Android Auto didn't occasionally just like fail to Bluetooth pair and have my audio not work or if um

[3:25:39] if depending on the the audio source on my phone, the volume wasn't either way lower or way higher. Like if I could just send Porsche a [snorts] a list of just send Porsche a [snorts] a list of all the sort of various minor tiny

[3:25:54] insignificant inconveniences. Uh like the fact that I can't have it just driving profile that I always use. I always drive in sport mode. So why do I I get into my car? It's stupid. Just don't do that. Um then I would just I

[3:26:09] would just love it. I would be I'd be I wouldn't want anything else. I honestly just don't want my car to really do anything other than when I press this press this thing, it stops going that way. Except when I also press a

[3:26:24] thing, when I press this thing, sometimes it goes that way. >> Yeah. >> I I don't I don't even know what I did. >> Okay, don't worry about it. Uh yeah. Yeah, I want a dumber car and I want to

[3:26:39] Well, you're never going to get that second thing. So, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. globally. Like Toyota has some truck that is not sold in North America, but

[3:26:52] though. Like, >> but it's not sold in North America like lane assist and stuff. >> Really? >> Interesting. >> Yeah. There's like a certain reason with

[3:27:06] >> Yeah. There's like a certain reason with with certain safety laws that a bunch of come to North America. >> That's so irritating. >> Yeah. Especially because like an insane amount of cars on the road don't have

[3:27:18] >> Yeah. Cuz they're just older. >> And like dude, oh my god, driving Emma's car. The lane assist >> is dangerous. Oh, it can be. >> And not just lane assist, but the emergency automatic braking. I've had

[3:27:33] >> God >> I've had at least three times that my tyken has almost killed me because I decided to go to turn left and it was like there's a car in front of you. I'm going to stop and it stopped in oncoming

[3:27:50] traffic and in a really jarring startling I need a second to figure out >> foot plant >> and I need to hit it again to get out of the way. Absolutely [snorts] insane. I don't want these things. I I understand

[3:28:04] they might make it better for some drivers out there somewhere. I think a helpful for and I know a lot of people just turn them off. So like >> and my lane keep there's a particular spot between Smash Champs and my house

[3:28:17] that it's just like and just tries to rip me out of the lane which is pretty >> Dude, I don't want any of this stuff. I don't want any of it at all. So, like in North America that doesn't have those things is crazy. I don't I don't like

[3:28:32] that. I would love this. What What is the um super cheap I'm hoping this brings it up. Uh Toyota truck sold outside >> Is it the Hilux? >> That's what people in chat said.

[3:28:47] that's the right thing. >> Hilux Champ. Nice. >> Yeah, this thing. They have a bunch of different versions of it. Um, it looks a little, you know, like a Lego truck. Um, but you can configure it in a

[3:29:03] bunch of different ways and stuff. And look, $10,000 pickup. >> bro. >> Like, let me buy the cheap truck thing >> That's super cool. >> It's a $10,000 platform that has an

[3:29:19] Cool. I there's there's a bunch of these There's other variants as well, but it's just like the cheaper cars aren't just like the cheaper cars aren't allowed to come here.

[3:29:37] More TV focused questions. Howdy, WAN. With TVs being so competitive, nearing a race to the bottom economics, creating millions of pounds of e-waste, should we have a minimum price floor on certain electronics? Is quality the winner?

[3:29:52] >> Generally speaking, I'm pretty pro- free market, a regulated free market that prevents monopolists from taking advantage of their position, but um I don't think I don't think you're ever going to get me advocating for

[3:30:06] >> minimum prices >> for a minimum price on on something. Uh I think that you know my job is educating people to make sure that they buy something that is going to meet their needs for an

[3:30:20] extended period of time in hopes that there will be less waste overall if people consume because they will consume but consume the right things so that but consume the right things so that there's less trial and error involved.

[3:30:33] Um and I just I just don't see how you I don't see how you'd implement this. Like it's not like it's a you know terrible idea on the surface of it, right? >> I I'd say you'd be better off creating like a like a warranty minimum.

[3:30:49] they have to support the product to incentivize them to do the right things rather than regulating it directly. >> I like that. That should also spread to more products. The more I'm learning about washer, dryer, refrigerator, I

[3:31:03] >> Uh dishwasher, all that kind of stuff, like holy crap, dude. The sheer amount of waste in not not even the electronics portion, but just the metals and everything else that is involved with this that people just have to toss out

[3:31:15] because it's not worth repairing is crazy. And the fact that we're getting used to people just not replacing appliances ever. >> Yeah. It comes with the house. >> Yeah. Like what how how is this turning

[3:31:29] more often than my TV? >> We were going to get new appliances when we moved into our current place. And the guy who uh came in looked at one of them when we were what was it? The motor in the washer went or something like that.

[3:31:42] And uh basically Ivonne was like, "Oh yeah, I don't know if we want to bother with repairing it." And the guy's like, "Yes, you do. I will put a new motor in this and this will last for another 25 years. If you went and you bought a new

[3:31:55] 10." >> Yeah. And like I I So like I said So, I was like, "All right, time to do some research cuz this is a pastime." some research cuz this is a pastime." Um, what can I buy? What should I get?

[3:32:09] All of everything. Like, there there was literally I can't remember the exact my phone, but there's there was like an appliance guy basically saying like, "The world is ending and I hate everything because like he can't

[3:32:22] good." >> Yeah. My um I forget what brand it is, but my mom bought a new fridge from someone that like for me growing up was like, "Oh, that's a reputable appliance brand." And they've been out, I think,

[3:32:34] brand." And they've been out, I think, half a dozen times to to fix it. And she's been like, "At what point is this a lemon? You guys have spent more than fixing it over and over and over again. Are you ready to acknowledge that it is

[3:32:47] broken and that you're not able to fix it?" And it's just like the whole thing is so grossly inefficient.

[3:32:59] >> The the comment was appliance tech here. It's all just it's all plastic disposable crap. Life is pointless and the planet is doomed because of the waste we produce. Refrigerators within your budget are not buy it for life.

[3:33:12] And it was like oh. So then I was like, "Okay, well, this person's listed budget on this particular Reddit thread didn't seem super high. Can you spend more than this

[3:33:27] and get something that's not just portable e-waste?" Apparently, yeah. >> Nice. >> is it like commercial? You're talking Subzero

[3:33:40] >> Subzero >> heard of [snorts] >> like like Subzero wins. >> I don't know if I've ever actually even heard of them. >> Uh there's another one that I don't

[3:33:54] another brand as well. >> You do have to be careful sometimes cuz >> like manufacturers just make for all the manufacturers. >> Yeah. Um, I mean if you want like commercial commercial,

[3:34:08] but those go a bit of money. >> No listed price. Very interesting. >> Sort of like, you know, there's like >> qualifies for a luxury kitchen savings event. >> Required accessories.

[3:34:21] Excuse me, I have to buy my own drawers for $1,000 each. >> Well, what if you wanted it in stainless steel? >> Uh-huh. Buy now with live chat. You need to discuss your purchase with

[3:34:35] handle. >> Tubular man. >> Where's the How do I Wait, is there >> You have to buy now. You No, you have to discuss your purchase. >> What the hell is Fisher and Payel?

[3:34:48] >> I don't know. Never heard of that. >> What? >> Buy now with live chat. But where's the starting price? It does it not have one?

[3:35:05] other brand that I found, but it was there's there's Wolf for stoves I know install. I don't know if they're actually worth it. actually worth it. >> How much does a Subzero fridge cost?

[3:35:19] >> Oh my god. >> But there's a ton of people on Reddit saying that these things last 25 years and are highly repable. Yeah, that's like how much a fridge should cost for how insanely complicated some of them

[3:35:33] >> The other brand is just called True. Those were the two that people were talking about. True and Subzero. >> Okay. >> Nope. >> 11 to $20,000 on a fridge or do you

[3:35:47] replace the same genuine piece of garbage and fill landfills with, I don't know what the prices. I haven't actually. Especially because when you sell your house with that sub-zero fridge, the new buyer will not

[3:36:01] >> assign any additional value to it. So, you're basically just paying for yourself to use it. Most people are not going to be in a position in their life where they can afford a $25,000 fridge and have enough of their life left that

[3:36:15] they're going to use it for the whole time. And that's just the cold hard truth. Now for some cold hard truth about B580s for some cold hard truth about B580s being available at MSRP. They're not.

[3:36:29] >> How am I supposed to do that? Do you have the gunar intel arc? Didn't think >> you have this one right here. >> It's from Newegg. Always a versioning

[3:36:41] >> Cool. So, um, don't worry. We're going to we're working on that and it's going >> Someday. Someday we will. >> So, lowest price in 30 days. Okay, >> So, lowest price in 30 days. Okay, whatever. You know, $2.99, it's not that

[3:36:55] bad. It's not It's not great. And this one doesn't have the holiday bundle for some reason. So, I don't know what's up with that. Maybe contact Newegg before you buy this one. lg.gg/newag, right? Do I remember this now? The

[3:37:09] ASRock Steel Legend is ah, it's up. It was 259 for a long time and it's $2.99 now, but the Intel holiday bundle is still there. So, free Battlefield 6. I think you could say with a straight face if you wanted Battlefield 6 and you get

[3:37:24] Battlefield 6 with it, it's pretty close to MSRP, but it's not what it was just a couple weeks ago where you could get it for $2.49, 259 and get the holiday bundle, which was an outstanding value. Man, what about 5070 Ti? Are they just

[3:37:41] What's up? >> Dad's in the chat. move." >> What's up, Rob? >> assuming your new kitchen layout accommodates the exact width of fridge

[3:37:56] >> Hacksaw. >> We ended up we ended up having one option for oven when we needed to get a new oven for our kitchen at our at our completely redo all the cabinets and everything. And they weren't wood. They

[3:38:10] were like some kind of like mela whatever whatever they were like that kind of plastic covered thing. And so they're not like easily modifiable and it was like a top bottom stack one. So there was yeah there was one option. So

[3:38:24] a lot of the time it's it's dictated by like the space you're in more than the oh man 57i are really expensive. >> If you're continuing to comment I can't because >> nice security or something.

[3:38:40] Um >> what's your dad's username? >> Liquid. >> Liquid. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense.

[3:38:57] but I'm not as handy as you. [laughter] >> He me. Yeah, he would. >> All right, Dan. Hit me. [laughter] Okay, last one I got for you today. Hey, W.Ll.

[3:39:09] Were any of you impacted by the telecom bubble and the fall of Nortell? Loving the mechanical pencil. I'm so glad you like it. Um, no. I was I was Man, I was >> That's not us. >> When did Nortell fall?

[3:39:24] >> The history of all00 super interesting. >> Yeah, I was 14. So, I wasn't really like I wasn't really like workforcing it up yet. Sleeping on those investments. >> Yeah, you should have bought a house and invested in Nortell very temporarily and

[3:39:39] >> Right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Hindsight. Thank you, really >> 2009. >> Um, and now it's time to put this WAN show

[3:39:53] >> Thanks for watching. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. [laughter] >> Bye.