Bernie Defines Oligarchy in America
45sBernie's blunt explanation of how a few billionaires control the economy and politics is a hot-button topic that sparks debate.
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In this WIRED Tech Support interview, Senator Bernie Sanders addresses questions about oligarchy, wealth inequality, and the influence of billionaires on American politics. He discusses the corrupt campaign finance system, the impact of AI on jobs, and the need for political organization to create a more equitable society.
Oligarchy means a nation where a handful of extraordinarily wealthy people have enormous wealth and power, controlling both the economy and the political system due to a corrupt campaign finance system.
Sanders notes the hypocrisy in calling Russian billionaires oligarchs while American billionaires are called entrepreneurs, despite similar concentrations of wealth and power.
The top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 93%, and Elon Musk owns more wealth than the bottom 53% of American households.
AI has the potential to wipe out tens of millions of jobs, and Sanders supports a national moratorium on data centers and an AI American Sovereign Wealth Fund to address this.
Due to the Citizens United decision, Super PACs allow billionaires like Elon Musk to spend unlimited money on elections, such as Musk's $290 million to elect Trump.
Sanders compares current inequality to the Gilded Age, noting it's worse than ever, with 60% of people living paycheck to paycheck.
Ordinary people face skyrocketing housing costs, with first-time homebuyers now purchasing their first home 12 years later than their parents, at age 40.
The US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare without guaranteeing it, and prescription drug costs are high due to a government controlled by wealthy interests.
Sanders argues that organizing politically and mobilizing people can win changes, citing examples like Zohran Mamdani in New York.
Sanders criticizes Trump as working for fellow oligarchs, lying, and leading the country into war, while also noting that Democrats failed to deliver on healthcare and education, contributing to Trump's election.
Progressives must lead the effort against Trump and transform the Democratic Party into a party of the working class to achieve healthcare for all and other progressive goals.
Sanders emphasizes that through political organization and transforming the Democratic Party, it is possible to achieve a society that works for ordinary people, including healthcare for all and a fair economy.
What is the definition of oligarchy according to Bernie Sanders?
A nation where a handful of extraordinarily wealthy people have enormous wealth and power, controlling the economy and political system.
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What percentage of wealth does the top 1% own compared to the bottom 93%?
The top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 93%.
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How much money did Elon Musk put into electing Trump?
$290 million.
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What is the Citizens United decision?
A Supreme Court decision that allowed unlimited political spending by Super PACs.
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What percentage of Americans live paycheck to paycheck?
60%.
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How many years later do first-time homebuyers purchase their first home compared to their parents?
12 years later, at age 40.
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What does Sanders propose to address AI-related job loss?
A national moratorium on data centers and an AI American Sovereign Wealth Fund.
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Wealth Inequality Stats
Provides concrete statistics that illustrate extreme wealth concentration.
01:45Musk's Political Spending
Highlights the scale of billionaire influence in elections.
04:44Political Organization as Solution
Offers a constructive path forward beyond criticism.
09:02Transform Democratic Party
Calls for a fundamental shift in party alignment to working-class interests.
10:35[00:00] we can come up with all kinds of military stuff, I'm Senator Bernie Sanders. [bright music]
[00:16] The first question, what does Bernie mean by oligarchy? Oligarchy means that you live in a nation in which a handful of extraordinarily wealthy people
[00:32] have enormous wealth and power. they not only control the economy, but they also control our political system to a large degree
[00:47] because we have a corrupt campaign finance system So bottom line, never before in American history so much power that is oligarchy.
[01:03] Why do we call Russian billionaires Oligarchs while we call US ones entrepreneurs? The guy is a crook, a mass murderer,
[01:19] and where Russia is right now. Putin and his friends cleaned up. and they became oligarchs, and everybody knows that.
[01:33] So it's easy to put a negative term on a country When it comes back home, but I think people are catching on.
[01:45] where the top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 93%, Mr. Musk now owns more wealth
[01:58] than the bottom 53% of American households, where we do have more or less free elections, to spend all kinds of money to defeat you,
[02:13] when the oligarchs have the money. and hundreds of millions of dollars So the reason we don't call what we have an oligarch,
[02:28] and it's much easier to be negative about another country. wanna replace the entire workforce with AI.
[02:42] no one is buying your shit and we're all gonna be broke." I don't think these guys stay up nights And I don't know that they're doing long term
[02:56] AI has the potential to wipe out tens of millions of jobs one of the wealthiest guys on earth,
[03:09] To automate factories and warehouses. manufacturing jobs in America It is a massive transformation of society
[03:25] who could care less about you or my grandkids They're in it for more and more wealth And what I'm spending 24/7 now
[03:39] We are supporting a national moratorium on data centers. calling for an AI American Sovereign Wealth Fund,
[03:51] on all of the major AI companies massive job loss in this country. "Isn't there a limit to political donations?
[04:06] Well, Debbie, the answer is, As a result of the disastrous Citizens United Supreme Court decision 15, 16 years ago,
[04:19] is that the wealthiest people in this country on elections. is a structure called Super PACs.
[04:31] Mr. Jones can't put a hundred million dollars You do it through Super PACs political organizations. So they put as much money as they want into a Super PAC,
[04:44] Elon Musk himself put $290 million into electing Trump. you got a really corrupt campaign finance system.
[04:58] that I believe in, where campaigns are about candidates actually debating So today, what's about is billionaires and their Super PACs
[05:13] running ugly 30-second ads trying to destroy opponents, we're not gonna bring back the changes unless we get rid of this disastrous
[05:27] "Is it inevitable that the US will have a revolution When we were in school,
[05:39] and Mellon and all those guys, The situation today is much more unequal It is worse than it's ever been in American history.
[05:54] Some 60% of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. I know something about that. how they're gonna feed their kids,
[06:08] when the course of childcare is so expensive. How do you afford to go to the hospital? A lot of people have no assurance at all.
[06:21] where people on top are doing phenomenally well And I think what you're seeing just beginning to start talking about that issue.
[06:36] Do we want to live in a society where one guy, Mr. Musk, owns more wealth than the bottom half of American society? not to guarantee healthcare to all people?
[06:50] Why do kids have to go tens and tens to get a college education? spending half of their income for housing?
[07:02] so all workers are earning a decent wage, People at the bottom are seeing what's happening, The difficulty is we live at a time
[07:15] that is not gonna discuss these issues very significantly. where these guys own many of the members of the Congress. But I think things are changing when people are catching up.
[07:27] who actually works in economics or something, There are no jobs, more being eliminated by the day,
[07:39] Seriously, what does the future look like? What will it take?" that American society is in decline.
[07:52] if you're an ordinary person, go to the grocery store, People think it's just New York or LA, Price of housing is skyrocketing.
[08:07] the first home that they are gonna buy, 12 years later than their parents. They're gonna get their first home at 40.
[08:22] that doesn't guarantee healthcare Despite spending twice as much per capita Why the cost of prescription drugs so very high?
[08:35] just to get a higher education? you gotta government that is controlled by extremely wealthy and greedy people
[08:47] and could care less about the needs of working people. the worst piece of legislation in modern history, gave a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top 1%,
[09:02] off of the healthcare that they have. And the answer is really not hard. We have to organize politically
[09:16] They have unbelievable and endless amounts of money, And when people get organized, when they get mobilized,
[09:28] And we have been winning. starting with Zohran Mamdani in New York you're seeing people never ran for office in their lives
[09:41] But we have to know what's at stake And bottom line, it is two things: in the history of the United States.
[09:54] He is working for his fellow oligarchs. He lies all the time. He has gotten us into a horrible war in Iran and on and on.
[10:06] But we also have to understand how Trump gets elected. They looked at the Democratic body and say, Did you create healthcare for all?
[10:20] Did you make the schools better?" So the struggle that we as progressives are engaged in Number one, we're gonna lead the effort against Trump
[10:35] we have to transform the Democratic party completely to a party of the working class That is the way out of this disaster.
[10:51] We can do extraordinary things. We could have healthcare for all people. This is not radical thinking.
[11:06] that works for ordinary people Thanks.
[11:19] [bright music]
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