Microsoft Finally Admits AI Sucks - WAN Show February 6, 2026

[00:09] welcome to the WAN show. We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. In some of the biggest news, Microsoft wants to earn back user trust

[00:23] by maybe dialing back some of the AI >> Windows changes >> nonsense that they've been cramming down our poor chafed throats. partially true. >> And I'm you know what? I'm kind of into

[00:37] it. Uh we've also got >> Wait, which part? >> Oh, stop. We've also got a short discussion. Um there's been obviously some memeing over on the platform formerly known as Twitter um about you

[00:53] know whether or not uh LMG scales people's pay over time. So we've got some handy dandy graphs to demonstrate that yes in fact we do. Um and then what Mr. Luke >> Notepad++ got hacked. So, if you're if

[01:08] holding out and you just for some reason really like launching Notepad instead of opening a new Google Doc or doing whatever else uh to the chagrin of of Linus Sebastian, uh maybe maybe go update that real quick.

[01:22] >> I only got mad at you for using it when it didn't have any kind of like save features or like like automatic backup. He lost so much work. I did things in

[01:34] fault. That was because I used to just use Notepad. that cuz some people be like, "I'm actually used to get mad at him about using because it didn't have autosave."

[01:47] >> I ended up like regge editing something so that if I tried to launch Notepad, it launch Notepad++ anyways. >> Fine. >> Um so that I like couldn't even screw it up. And then that was that was that was

[02:00] better. Uh, anyways, also, have you ever wanted to rent out yourself? Well, rent a human.AI, you can rent your body out to AI agents. Yes, this is what I've been waiting for. Some people wanted to be able to rent

[02:15] out their Tesla as a taxi and they waited this long and they still can't do it. That's lame. Who cares? I want to be able to rent me.

[02:46] The show is brought to you today by Vessie, Jawa, ODU, Squarespace, our rap partner Dbrand, our laptop partner, Razer, and our chair partner also Razer. All right. Sorry, I have to I have to Mr. Assisttor in in which he didn't

[03:00] assist right here in full plane chat said uh does this mean the AI gets my said uh does this mean the AI gets my depression?

[03:14] become a complete circle jerk? Right? Cuz like a human programs the AI to ask a human to do a thing to would it would it tell them to use an AI to something to any the point is Microsoft is trying to earn back user trust by dialing back

[03:31] AI features no one wanted. That's right. They're finally acknowledging what users They're finally acknowledging what users have been screaming about for years. Why it took this long, we don't know. But it finally seems to have broken through

[03:44] finally seems to have broken through that Windows 11 has a trust problem. In a report from The Ver's Tom Warren >> and other problems, >> and other problems, >> Windows President Pavan Duri admits that

[03:56] the company needs to improve Windows in ways that are meaningful for people. I want to know. I have a question. I have a question for Mr. PD over there.

[04:09] >> Okay. If you're such a fancy investigator of what Windows users might want, why did it take you this long to come up with an innovative idea like we meaningful for people?

[04:24] genuinely interested. >> Yeah. I want to know how long it took to figure out that you should improve Windows in ways that are meaningful for people. Hit me.

[04:42] Wait, what? >> Been at Microsoft since 2021, but in to AI. >> Yeah, I'm looking it up. >> All right, so Luke's going to fact check that because that's necessary. Um, he

[04:57] also says that engineers are now swarming to fix performance and reliability issues. And I mean, Luke, as someone who manages some developers, >> You know, developers, developers, develop, do they like letting things

[05:13] rot? >> Oh. and working on random that they know that nobody wants until finally someone from management pulls their head out of their rectal cavity and goes, "Oh, uh, maybe we should do

[05:28] what you guys probably knew we should do the whole time and deal with like bugs and stuff." Um, everybody go. We're time? >> Yeah, it's kind of the worst. And it's

[05:41] funny cuz I suspect he might lose people over this and not because like oh there he's finally doing what we wanted. I think people are going to have finally

[05:53] like won the fight >> but not have the energy to carry on the >> I could totally see that >> 100%. So I think he's going to lose some engineers over this. Not not because he or I don't actually know but not because

[06:06] they made a bad decision. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think >> I think we've had experience with eventually making a good decision and it took so long. >> 100%.

[06:19] >> Yeah. And and it's not >> in fairness, it's not always as obvious >> in fairness, it's not always as obvious as this one seems to have been, at least to us, it's not always as obvious from the inside as it is from the outside. I

[06:34] the inside as it is from the outside. I I don't I have a hard time. Oh, this is one of those times when like I have been on both sides of this issue. I've been on all three sides of this issue. I've been a user, I've been an

[06:46] employee, and I've been in management. All three sides of this issue I've seen it from. I still have a hard time relating to not being able to tell that Windows 11 had a user focus problem.

[07:02] >> I'm going to give Davaluri a little bit of credit here. As far as I can tell, this happened in March of 2024. They took over >> for something an or the size of Windows.

[07:17] You know, maybe they're not even moving that slow. I don't have experience moving at that scale. I know moving at this scale can sometimes feel >> Brutally slow. So, I can't even imagine what they have to kind of deal with. So,

[07:32] you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna try to have faith. This is the first good >> This is the first good thing I've heard you say about Windows in a very very >> I'm gonna try to have some faith that they're kind of going to try to do some

[07:45] you get a good night's sleep last night? >> No. Like far from This works for you. >> That tends to be how my my life goes.

[07:58] >> That tends to be how my my life goes. >> You're so levelheaded today. least I think twice in the last month we've like kind of gotten into it a little bit before the show has started about just something totally stupid and

[08:12] you're like cranky today or something like that. Do you remember me saying >> Maybe I only thought it >> No, I mean I Yeah, I don't know. I think you were cranky. I think you told me you thought I was cranky, too.

[08:25] >> That also sounds true. Yeah. I mean >> it's I mean it's amazing when you put yourself out there every single week >> on a schedule. There is no like >> Yeah. Sometimes you're not in that in that mindset

[08:40] >> and you know that that that's that's what I feel for Microsoft right now. you know, they put themselves out there every four to 6 years with the new windows and sometimes, you know what, they're just not in the mindset.

[08:54] Sometimes they just lay a giant fat turd. Anyway, let's move on. Um, they've had a lot of problems lately. The January 2026 updates have been a disaster. Shutdown bugs forced an emergency outofband update, then a

[09:10] second patch for One Drive and Dropbox crashes. Some business PCs are failing to boot entirely after installing the January update. And beyond bugs, the January update. And beyond bugs, the core Windows experience has been well,

[09:23] you've experienced it unless you've given up and and left, but it's been a given up and and left, but it's been a nightmare. Uh ads, bloatware, Edge and Bing popups, one drive nagging you, forced Microsoft account requirements.

[09:38] Uh Tom Warren, so this is the the Verge reporter, says in 20 years of covering Windows, he's never seen fans of the OS disappear like they have recently. And that seems to be a major problem for Microsoft. And it's not just on the

[09:53] Microsoft. And it's not just on the Windows side. Um this is actually way later in our notes, but uh Microsoft's gaming revenue is down 9%, Xbox hardware revenue is down 32%. Uh and the more personal computing

[10:08] division which is Windows Xbox Surface is the only business unit that declined yearover-year. Uh they just are having a really hard time it seems with their consumerfacing product and brand.

[10:23] >> Yeah, they sure are. >> Meanwhile, on the Linux side of things, everything just seems to be getting better across the board. >> It sure does. In some cases, you know, Linux still doesn't deliver onpar

[10:36] performance with Windows across the board, and the compatibility can still be a struggle, especially in games that require kernel level anti-che. Um, but there are cases where Linux will run games better than Windows can, which is

[10:49] kind of pathetic when you consider that the development for the game is in the development for the game is in almost all cases Windows first. And pretty darn close. However, this this is the part that

[11:03] actually gives me a little bit of hope. A separate Windows Central report reveals that Microsoft is actively walking back its AI push. Copilot buttons in Notepad and Paint. Uh, actually the the login button in Paint

[11:17] was one that went kind of viral. I I tweeted about that last week. button. Here, here. Here. Here. Here. Not only a button. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What's this? Yes. Yes. This is it. Okay. So, my tweet didn't

[11:31] actually have uh this interface because I just reflexively closed it because I >> I almost did that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But uh so what I ended up doing was I I closed it. So go Yeah, go ahead and close it. So you see

[11:45] right next to me. There was a sign in right there. And then to recreate it, I clicked the signin button that you're clicking there, right? Um okay. So and and basically Yeah. So, I sent out a tweet and I was like, "Microsoft, if at

[11:59] any point you're looking back going, when did we go wrong? This was it." And people. >> Have I Why do I need to sign into MS

[12:11] >> Have I Have I raged about ClipChamp to you before? >> Do you know what ClipChamp is? >> Yeah. Isn't it our video editing >> So, Movie Maker isn't a thing anymore. Um, but now if I go

[12:24] >> Yeah, I'm on your screen, by the Of course. Hold on. If we go clipch champ. making software? Why >> Why do I need to do that? >> You're already signed into your

[12:38] operating system. >> Not only does this happen, but I'm not But oh my god, we're talking about dark patterns on the show. The dark patterns that they use to try to just force you to save your files to one drive is

[12:53] to save your files to one drive is insane. Oh, dude. What What windows was it when it started defaulting to a one drive folder for freaking everything? Or was it an office update? I can't remember, but it drove me absolutely

[13:06] nuts. And then, oh man, Teams did that really irritating thing. I think about a year ago where no matter what your operating systemwide default browser >> it would default to opening things in Edge and Teams and I wouldn't be signed

[13:20] into anything cuz I don't use Edge. >> So annoying. And then I had to it was like buried in the menus to find out how to change it to use your browser or to browser. >> I still can't believe that they they

[13:33] finally addressed the I I won't talk too much about Teams, I swear, but they finally addressed not being able to tell if your mic is working at all, but they addressed it in the most insane way. >> Do you know how they did this?

[13:45] >> No. >> So voice activity in Teams, the box >> lights up when you're talking. And I would say that properly. Sorry. And I actually never happens. The box around other people lights up when they're

[14:00] around you does not light up. >> Right. With Discord, it does. >> Right. With Discord, it does. >> The little mic icon in the corner. >> Has like a fill bar inside of it. Very small little. And it goes beep like why

[14:13] just have the box around me highlight. You have literally trained me how this works. and all other very popular voice programs do the same thing, which is programs do the same thing, which is exactly what you do for everyone else.

[14:28] become a thing? >> Microsoft Teams is your Apple. >> I uh I accidentally I accidentally ended up in an Apple rant during another short

[14:40] circuit shoot recently >> um just like talking about their their >> um just like talking about their their it just works design philosophy. Except when it doesn't and now there's no workaround because you just designed it

[14:53] hilarious. >> I don't think Microsoft's philosophy is >> No, it's not their philosophy. >> No, no, no. I'm I just started Apple >> It's the default. >> What are you going to do about it? And

[15:06] >> the cheapest one. >> The wildest part of all of this conversation is how did they get nailed for this in the '9s? for this in the '9s? And there's no meaningful antitrust

[15:19] >> push back now. Now that their behavior, not to mention everyone else's behavior, is so much worse. I mean, you'd think in an era where world where where where governments around the world are

[15:34] starving for money, running massive deficits. You'd think there'd be an deficits. You'd think there'd be an incentive to capture money from these multinational, multi-billion, in some cases multi-trillion dollar companies

[15:48] cases multi-trillion dollar companies that are clearly behaving >> There kind of was. We had base Lena >> Now we no longer have base Lena Khan. Ivonne, I don't want you to take this

[16:01] the wrong way, but if it was Lena Khan, I'd want my >> Whoa. >> No, no. I'm I'm I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But in a in a nonsexual way, seriously, love

[16:14] >> Yeah. >> Please be the prime. Actually, you know, I've been pretty happy with Carney so far. But but if for whatever reason, you know, yet another one of our like very promising like federal level leaders

[16:29] like got cancer and died and was ripped away from us. RIP Jack Leighton. Um then Lena, you're next in line. You're next in line. Okay. >> For for prime minister >> for prime minister of Canada. Yeah. Not

[16:45] weird. >> Weirder. now. >> But is she coming in Canada?

[16:58] >> Wow. Wow. Wow. >> Well, I don't I'm just asking. >> Uh, internally, >> I respect you, Lena Khan. >> Yeah, me too, very much. I think you're cool. Internally, Microsoft believes

[17:19] believes that recall, that feature that screenshots everything you do, has >> it did. >> Uh they're exploring ways to evolve it or possibly rebrand it. >> But the current implementation is

[17:31] >> The turning point seems to have been when Davaleri tweeted that Windows would become an agentic OS. You sure you still like this guy? And got absolutely >> I don't because I looked at his Twitter. I'm not even kidding. thousands of

[17:46] negative replies. The good news is that backlash resonated Um, >> well, look at this. Agreed. >> Yeah, but you don't have to you don't

[18:00] have to go on your show and be like, "By the way, hall pass." You can just you cool, >> which I do. Okay. Very much. >> Yeah. Maybe a little bit too much. All right. Okay. Uh, I jumped on his

[18:14] Twitter. First tweet, perplexity is in Windows. Second tweet, AI ambitions something deep sea car something. Proud to today Copilot Plus PCs recall. Woo!

[18:27] one liked that. Post unavailable. >> It doesn't tweet very often though. This >> November. I'm not signed in. >> Oh, so it's not chronological. What a great feature. >> Windows is evolving into an Agentic OS.

[18:41] Big milestone for AI on Windows. Excited to introduce Copilot Plus, please. AI uh AI. I just had to find it. Uh let's see. Copilot Plus. Okay. I think we've

[18:54] >> I think we've seen enough. >> I became less hopeful. >> So, >> That was cool. >> Which is a record as of late.

[19:08] >> Which is a record as of late. >> Yeah. Okay. So maybe then >> No, Dad. >> Okay. Look, look. I think it's clear >> Oh. >> And now, Dan, you've taken it even

[19:23] >> And now, Dan, you've taken it even farther. and canceled men. >> Which one is which? >> I could be both. >> Yeah, they're both both. Uh,

[19:39] >> Dan took it right where it needs to be. No, Mr. Blonde 42. No, >> I never I can never find it. >> We were both wrong. We were both wrong. We were both wrong. >> Um, sorry. Okay. If you sign in If you

[19:53] it gets a little bit better. His most recent repost thing, uh, full screen experience expands to more Windows 11 PC form factors for Windows insiders. Okay, that's cool. That's the thing from the RG Xbox handheld thing, right? That's a

[20:10] >> Yeah. >> Okay, cool. Nice. Um, >> Hold on. Can Can you scroll back up? >> Full screen experience experience. one as far as Santa goes. So, it's not an AI thing now that we're signed in.

[20:25] still though? Is that from November? >> Yeah. So, he doesn't tweet that much. >> Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, the next one I I don't think the security stuff. I don't actually see an actual direct mention to AI.

[20:40] Okay. Well, >> cool. Well, good chat. >> It's not as bad. I I I've still lost some hope, but not all of it. >> All right. There is some good news for Windows. Windows 11 did hit 1 billion

[20:53] users faster than Windows 10, but that was largely driven by Windows 10 forcing end of life um for older hardware that wasn't even that old. Uh and uh here's another quote from Deer. Trust is earned over time and we are committed to

[21:08] building it back with the Windows community. So our discussion question here is Microsoft spent years shoving AI ads and dark patterns into Windows. Oh man, I I went through the setup wizard the other day because I had to set up a

[21:23] yeah, I remember why. Uh we went to Costco to buy a computer cuz we were like, "Is Costco the hack to getting a decent deal on a computer?" Turns out um it could be pretty good. We actually we Yeah, we Well,

[21:38] I always feel bad when we managed to pull off something that the average person might not be able to do, but we got an open box machine at Costco, so we average person can't do that? >> Well, not if they don't happen to have

[21:51] >> chance, I guess, is what you're saying. >> I thought you were saying it was like uh they're not restocking it. It had the death star. That's what they called the you know that? >> If you're at Costco, there's a little

[22:03] on there, that means they're not going to restock that item. So, you can tell something for the season or whatever by by checking the death star. Apparently, there's a bunch of rules like if it ends in 99 or 95 or stuff. I really need a

[22:18] >> That's actually genuinely like helpful. >> Yep. Can can can vouch. Wife worked at Costco for many years. Right. Right. Right. So, I had to buy a computer and I got it home and it was

[22:31] computer and I got it home and it was preloaded with the like u Jamal Desawn or something like that, the like default profile and I had so I had to go through the Ubie setup experience and it's it's so

[22:45] frustratingly full of dark patterns. I I it it drives me absolutely nuts how obviously intentionally designed the way that I have to move around in order to not do what I don't

[23:00] want to do is. It drives me nuts. Sorry, I know I know I'm taking this back, but back to ClipChamp, I think the thing that really actually annoys me about it is it's pretty okay. The software is like fine.

[23:14] >> Wild take. The problem is that it's layered in like it has this core of like, you know, for a Windows home movie maker kind of thing. This isn't Premiere we're talking about. It's fine. You can put some footage in there. You can make

[23:29] it you can make some changes to it. You can export it, right? It's fine. I mean, >> So cool. >> That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me. The problem is that it's layered in all

[23:42] The problem is that it's layered in all this junky login completely unnecessary crap all over the place forcing one drive down your throat premium option stuff blah blah blah blah blah when it's just like dude I bought freaking

[23:56] just like dude I bought freaking Windows. this point. >> Nice. Solid. But at one point in time, I >> Nice. Solid. But at one point in time, I decided to be legit.

[24:12] since then that I helped other people. But it is what it is. Uh mine is legit. But it is what it is. Uh mine is legit. Uh but yeah, I Yeah, they bought it, not Uh but yeah, I Yeah, they bought it, not built it. Oh, that's why it's okay.

[24:26] >> Dang. And then they layered their junk on top. Yikes. That's uh that is that is rough. But yeah, ClipChamp itself is like it feels pretty quick. It feels pretty lightweight. It's easy to use. >> Noki says it can only export up to 480p

[24:40] on the free tier and it wants 10 bucks a month for 720p exports. >> That doesn't sound right to me. >> Okay. All right. I I hope that's true. what? I'm I'm going to sign into Clip Chat on my machine here. No, I'll do it

[24:54] already signed in. Okay. >> Um anyway, can I'm going to finish the it. And yeah, so other people are saying the same thing as me. I I can do 1080p >> Okay. All right. All right. That's good to know. So

[25:09] now they're scrambling to undo all this damage with AI ads and dark patterns. correction or do you think it's just damage control until the heat dies down?

[25:21] >> Do they recognize that Linux is a genuine threat and that maybe more importantly Mac OS is a genuine threat? There are so many people in my life that I know for a fact would never have switched to Mac OS if Windows just

[25:37] wasn't such a steaming pile right now. >> I feel like they might be more aware of Mac OS and they're they're switching away from Chromebook, right? It's going to be Android OS Android something. Uh I think they're probably more aware of

[25:51] I've been I've been banging the Chromebook. Chromebook is coming for everything drum for a long time. >> The company that really nails the early education front for compute is like going to be a threat every time.

[26:07] >> Yep. >> Um every every elementary to high >> Um every every elementary to high schoolaged child in North America has an extremely high chance of being very familiar with Chrome OS and Google

[26:23] services. >> Yeah. Like it's wild how much market penetration they have there and like yeah it's definitely got problems e gadget guy who says that it's a steaming pile but they have familiarity with it

[26:39] pile but they have familiarity with it like it sometimes the steaming pile that you know you're familiar with tastes better than the steaming pile that better than the steaming pile that you've never experienced before.

[26:51] Yeah, iPads too says Ztharian iOS or sorry, excuse me, iPad OS, which sure um sorry, excuse me, iPad OS, which sure um absolutely a threat to Windows like the

[27:03] >> finally >> from all sides right now. And >> I think I think the somewhat sneaking darkness for them is Linux

[27:15] good. >> Oh, we're starting another Linux >> Yeah. So, this time it's going to be a three-way.

[27:27] >> Yeah. Like there's there's nothing uncomfortable about it >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. See, I say I I regret what I said earlier in the show, but I regret nothing about what I'm saying right now.

[27:43] >> No. No. No. No. >> You, me, and Elijah. Uh, we're going to be we're going to be Linux challenging. And this time And this time >> I am going deep. I asked Elijah for not

[27:57] >> I am going deep. I asked Elijah for not one, not two, not three, not four, but family? >> Oh, that's a good idea, too. But no. >> Oh, >> I am doing my home machine that I use

[28:11] for work at home. I am doing my work laptop that I use at work and often at home and when I'm traveling. I'm doing my gaming system, my like rack mount liquid cooled gaming system downstairs. I'm doing my

[28:25] system downstairs. I'm doing my handheld, my GPD Win 5. And for extra bonus points, if I feel like it, I might even do the system in the theater room. >> Wow. >> So, I will not touch Windows for over a

[28:38] month. I'm going to see if I survive it. We should switch these. >> It doesn't really feel necessary. >> Then you'll touch Windows. >> Okay, I'll touch Windows

[28:50] >> I mean, we can do these, too. Um, they're they're paying for the laptops, not what's on them. >> I don't think that matters. Let's not do >> Yeah, it's fine. Uh, what was I going to say? You know what? unironically re

[29:04] really interesting for a potential sorry I don't remember the um >> oh Randy >> Randy um a a potential video too for

[29:20] Randy to do >> could be like an OS what is what is a what does a new person on the scene think of like Windows versus maybe one or two popular Linux Dros versus Mac OS.

[29:34] >> Versus Chrome OS or whatever. >> He basically only plays Rocket League compatible? >> I think so.

[29:50] be the end for >> the Rocket League. >> Um, before the disaster strikes. >> Platinum. Okay, but this is from two days ago.

[30:03] Three days ago. >> Oh, removed. about games with blah blah blah. Colonel level malware. Heroic or legendary

[30:15] launcher since under Proton blah blah. Uh, Uh, makes sense. it goes. Guess we'll see how it goes. Ah, it's

[30:30] >> so and and that's a that's a big part of why Windows is still able to hold on to >> because >> even just the potential of it, everyone's killer app is going to be different and their killer app might not

[30:45] make any sense to you, but at the end of the day, if all they want to do is go home and lay back in their chair or on their the boys >> and that's not an option,

[30:58] >> I'm going to put a financial burden on you if you accept. But I think >> No. >> Oh, >> but he has to do the expense for the thing.

[31:11] >> So, so he gets some cash. >> Oh, so if he doesn't use one $100, >> Oh, so if he doesn't use one $100, >> he has to make a choice at the end. >> Cuz because I'm thinking back to you made him pick like his gift or whatever

[31:26] made him pick like his gift or whatever at one time for the handheld. >> I'll think about it. I don't want to do too many. I buy my kids a thing videos. just reviewed that this week, so it's going to be coming out sometime this

[31:39] sense. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We uh it's actually two of my kids were due for uh due for phones this Christmas. So, one of them had never had one yet and is at the age now where I'm

[31:52] like, "Okay, I mean your brother and your sister had one at your age and you've we have some kind of requirements in our house for when you're allowed to have a phone. you have to demonstrate that you're trustworthy. Um, and that's

[32:05] that you're trustworthy. Um, and that's the main one. And um, so she was due and then Randy was still running a OnePlus 6T. So, it's not getting any even

[32:17] anymore. And it has a broken screen, which I wouldn't replace his phone for if it was still perfectly good and he was just careless and broke it, but it also just is pretty old at this point. So, it's uh, so it's time. So, those two

[32:32] are are getting new phones. And so, uh, I basically laid out some some requirements for Elijah. And then Elijah put together a roster of phones and kind of plays the the minimum wage retail employee role again and kind of helps

[32:47] employee role again and kind of helps them through their decision. >> Yeah. Cool. >> Um, sure, Dan. It could if that tell us if you're not gonna do that to us talking

[33:00] >> It could be really interesting to get his takes on it >> over the course of the challenge. >> I would say that >> what do you want to talk about next? >> Let's see here. We had some we had some

[33:12] bangers up at the top. Um >> bangers and mash >> Nice >> X formerly known as Twitter as everybody >> X formerly known as Twitter as everybody knows. Uh we we could yeah uh had their

[33:26] offices raided in France by the Paris Prosecutor's Cyber Crime Unit, >> the PPCC. >> Yeah. Wow. Uh for for sure though. Uh this was part of an ongoing investigation into into X for the

[33:40] investigation into into X for the complicity and possession of CSAM. complicity and possession of CSAM. Really bad pairing of of the Anyways, uh or child sexual abuse material. The prosecutor's office also

[33:54] stated that both Elon Musk, owner of X, and former chief executive Linda Yakarino, which I don't actually understand, unless this isn't only about the recent thing cuz like why would she be brought

[34:06] in? Anyways, u they've been summoned to appear in April for a hearing. Musk took to X to say this raid was a political attack and X made a statement saying attack and X made a statement saying this raid was an abusive act but not

[34:20] surprised that this happened. Meanwhile, UK officials have uh given an update into their investigations into Grock and X. The investigation was started back in January after Grock was being used to generate unconsensual images depicting

[34:33] people as nude or doing other sexual acts. The update states that they are to matter of urgency. >> It's nice that other countries are matter. >> Mhm. The ICO, UK's information

[34:49] commissioner's office, launched its own probe in conjunction with Ofcom, I don't know. Uh which will be uh which will begin processing of personal data in relation to Grock. Cool. Who knows what this all means in

[35:06] >> Um, man, our discussion question is probably too broad. Um, since clearly companies and people are getting away with doing some rules or regulations that you would impose? And I just I I don't know. I I

[35:23] the time when >> genuinely requires some big brains. We watch lawmakers, you know, struggle to keep up with the pace of technological development and and create meaningful laws and regulations to to help to to

[35:38] look at it and we go, well, it's so obvious they could just do this and this and this. They just don't have the bravery or they're too paid off to do does seem that simple. >> And I think sometimes it is,

[35:52] >> but not this time. >> This time it's tough. I really I I do not have the solution. >> I think there should be something for how long they just let it do that for. That was crazy to me.

[36:05] >> Having some form of error or unintended functionality is going to happen when you're building things. Um >> but not, you know, immediately you fix it and stuff >> cuz like we know like the

[36:19] >> that's what tells us the intent. >> Yeah. whatever the chatbot was that Microsoft had forever ago that like >> immediately became >> like anti-semitic and stuff >> like Yeah. Mecca Nazi or whatever it

[36:32] >> like Yeah. Mecca Nazi or whatever it was. Uh Mecca Hitler, I think it was. Um >> Yeah, >> I think. >> Um >> and and they put out a statement. They

[36:44] were like, "Yeah, that was >> that wasn't the point." Yeah. Well, they're all kind of blended together at this point. >> Yeah, there there was. Yeah, Mecca Hitler was Grock, but the other one

[36:56] where it it turned like super racist and anti-semitic was I I'm pretty sure it was a Microsoft project. >> Yeah, Tay. Yeah, Microsoft T. So, this one they kept it up for like a long time. And even the measures that they

[37:09] took to hide the bad stuff >> were instantaneously circumvented. >> and then when that happened, they didn't do any more to stop it. So that's where it goes from. And like this is one of those things where I just

[37:24] this is one of those things where I just I I don't understand why anyone kind of treats this as as a controversial take. Like it's it's pretty clear that the reason that we have different, you know, classifications of crime when you kill

[37:37] someone like manslaughter or firstdegree murder or seconddegree murders because intent does matter. Yeah. >> A lot. And so if something bad happens,

[37:49] that doesn't necessarily tell us the intent. Mistakes happen. Hey, there was that time we auctioned a water block. That wasn't a great look.

[38:02] >> Um, right. But like, was it on purpose? Did the people who made the decision to put it in the auction know that it had been it in the auction know that it had been requested back? No. when they found out,

[38:16] did they take immediate action? Uh, yes. And so, you know, that's one thing, but when you've got, hey, you know, this non-consensual non-consentual non-consensual sexual imagery is being generated and

[38:31] sexual imagery is being generated and the action that gets taken is >> Yeah. >> Um, well, that tells us that tells us right search term. >> Yeah. Eventually, eventually we'll kind

[38:45] search term. So, >> that that was a heck of a Freudian slip. Hey, non-conceptual kind of works. >> It kind of works. Should that be a word? >> I almost kind of think so. >> Non-consensual

[38:58] >> It It gets the point across. >> I mean, there's nothing sensual about it. So, like, why is that word in there? English is funny. you get these you get these weird sort of

[39:12] like back to Latin and you're just like oh yeah okay I guess that kind of makes doesn't. >> Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty good >> It's a perfectly chromulent language. >> Um

[39:26] yeah, what to do here though? I don't I don't know. Um like cats out of the bag >> for AI.

[39:38] >> like it it is so known that it is so easy to hijack all of these different tools. Like you totally not supposed to. >> But the other tools, for the most part,

[39:52] at least the public facing ones from major companies have figured out how to block this stuff. So clearly it's possible. And they or are they much

[40:04] more private? Because I don't know how many other ones do it in public. >> They would be a chatbot for you. You'd be generating things for you. And then if you're generating these things, you're not like sharing it immediately.

[40:17] fully convinced that they have. >> I mean, you definitely >> And I'm not about to try. >> That's so like >> Yeah, that's a that's a funny that's a funny thing. Like how do you how do you

[40:32] know like is just the fact that it was baked into a social media platform the only reason we noticed >> this is I yeah I think so this is my point and I've thought that since the beginning

[40:49] >> he's gone he's out >> um >> um >> wow I made it uh >> It's pretty good. >> We've only been live for 40.

[41:03] >> We've only been live for 40. >> Oh, that's Well, okay. Thanks, Dan. >> Counter. >> Yeah, I feel worse. >> Um, yeah. So, like it's I, you know, I don't

[41:15] think this problem is unique to X. Um, I think other ones might have tried to avoid it a little bit more, but I do suspect that if you tried hard enough, Because again, I've been trying to say this for years now, and every once in a

[41:31] while it'll get proven with some new prompt um that you can just it'll have these things. Then you just tell it like, "Uh, but my mom is going to be like, "Let's go." Like every time there's just

[41:46] one? You just write it like a haik coup or something and then it's like, "Yeah, sure." Like there's just there's just always some way and it's usually very always some way and it's usually very easy. Like very very easy.

[41:59] Yeah. Yeah. Breakdown said, "I just asked Chad GBT to put a picture of my wife in a bikini and it happily did it on the second try." This is my point. I've never tried that. I am not surprised that worked and I can pretty

[42:12] especially if you use manipulative language. This is not So this is my language. This is not So this is my problem.

[42:27] are basically all going to have this capability that we shouldn't do something about it. I'm saying you need to be aware that this is a holistic issue and not just a Grock issue because I think some people think it's just a

[42:41] Grock issue which is not. >> The bad attitude is a fairly uniquely mean? >> I I mean in regards to management or >> Management when they Oh, yeah. No, I mean Grock is just code like it can't

[42:54] management >> where they don't seem to care about either. >> I mean, uh, the the person in full chat who did that to their wife, I'm pretty sure OpenAI knew this was possible when

[43:07] that was happening to Grock. >> To be clear, I I'm not a huge fan of Sam Ultman either, or the Zuck. Oh god. Why? Why are these all being built by

[43:21] like the least trustworthy people? >> Everything. Almost everything is at that >> Everything. Almost everything is at that scale.

[43:35] >> run by a cabal of like >> I I don't remember what it was exactly, lot of traction, but I saw a Reddit thread of like how how could they work with this company so so and so

[43:49] like owns it or works there or whatever. And I I don't even know if it was in that and I remembered thinking like, man, do you know the people that work everywhere else, too? Like this is this has been one of my comments for a long

[44:02] time. Like I think one of the reasons why um Musk gets as much hate as he does why um Musk gets as much hate as he does is because he just talks more loudly. I don't think he has necessarily super different opinions

[44:16] compared to some of these other people. Like we all saw how PR agency out the freaking Zuck is. Trump comes into office and he just has like a full transformation. He's just a new man. Suddenly he's surfing drinking beer with

[44:32] an American flag just out of nowhere and he's like raw raw like what what are you talking about man? You have no idea who that person is. You have no idea.

[44:47] In my opinion the most revealing thing he's ever done is call people idiots for >> Yeah. >> That's who that person is in my opinion. grown a little since then. >> I've got flack for pointing that out

[45:01] >> so long ago, and it was, it absolutely was. And that is a fair comment. People that is a fair comment. >> I've definitely said and done things 10 today. >> Preach King. So have I. I think though

[45:16] that that was a bit of a revealing of the curtain. I I I've I've lashed onto that exact line a little bit because I don't think he's ever dropped that. And taken ever since, I think he's stayed very specifically on

[45:31] I think he's stayed very specifically on that line the whole time. >> Thanks, Luke. >> The problem is the people in that class.

[45:49] here's another problem. You can't you can't be like you can't be like on your can't be like you can't be like on your on your iPhone in your on your iPhone in your uh I don't know almost any car

[46:01] using your random service eating your whatever I don't know McDonald's drinking your coke being like uh this guy bad like bruh you can't you can't work with that company because this guy

[46:13] bad it's like you are so entrenched everything around you like it's it's it's rough it's tough I mean okay you can do that obviously, but like I don't think I don't think it's effective um to like

[46:26] shame other people for using a thing in particular roots of all the things that you use, they have the same problem. This is why someone needs to make vinegar, man. >> You should explain what vinegar is. I

[46:39] vinegar." >> Fair enough. It's it's this concept, this app concept I've had for a long time, which I don't have the

[46:51] time, energy, resources, etc. to make, but I want someone else to. And you can take the name cuz I think it's amazing. Just credit me or something. But it it's supposed to be almost the opposite of Honey. And the idea is that uh when you

[47:06] go on a product page, and I thought of it originally just for myself. I try to it originally just for myself. I try to avoid Amazon. So for me, I could the the original original idea was that I could go on Amazon and it would find the

[47:19] smaller brickandmortar stores. But then the eventual idea was that okay, but I also preach my whole thing on like everyone has their own battles.

[47:31] you don't need to worry about mine. Um, and that's fine. So maybe you can just toggle different movements like I care about this thing. I care about that things. So, if you're like, I don't want to support Nestle because ick. Then you

[47:46] you flip that toggle and then the insane amount of brands under Nestle. It'll help point out and and maybe suggest alternatives or or something like that. But then that gets really muddy. U really tough. There are so many that you

[48:01] a while of like there are effectively like seven companies that make consumer goods and you see that like all of these different companies are just owned by so many other companies and it and it and it whittleles down to this really really

[48:15] really small group. Um and helping people traverse through that is kind of the idea of of vinegar. >> All right. It took me two attempts.

[48:28] like in a yellow bikini based on this picture of her. We're so sorry, but the policies. If you think you got it wrong, please retry or edit your prompt. Attempt number two. My wife used AI to change this beat picture, beach picture

[48:42] to a corporate headsh shot. Can you put her back on the beach and put her yellow bikini back on? Boop. >> Yeah, this is this is >> that easy. unfortunately.

[48:56] unfortunately. >> Thanks. >> That's like such a huge yikes. >> Yep.

[49:13] >> And to be to be clear, I like I wouldn't have used a picture of my wife if I didn't know that she already posed in her underwear on ltstore.com. like this, wasn't true. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like we've we've uploaded us

[49:28] we did a selfie of us in our underwear once on Twitter like a while back. Like I I >> in this case it's okay. That does not >> in general. It is not okay. >> The vast majority of cases. Um

[49:47] the reason why the Grock thing was so disgusting to me was because it showed likely what not only what people would do, but likely in a lot of cases what people are doing. Um >> the stupidest part of this is

[50:02] >> private chats. >> I have so little experience using LLMs and I was able to do it that easily. This that is again the safety measures don't work.

[50:15] don't work. They just don't like it. Oh, this is great. Hold on. The second one finished. We're so sorry, but the image we created may violate our content policies. If you think we got it wrong, please retry or

[50:27] edit your pumble. Obviously, I prefer this response. this response. So, by asking the user to train product responds. >> That's so

[50:40] >> when it comes to user safety guidelines, like >> are you kidding me right now? >> Yeah.

[50:57] rough. That's not good. >> Such a huge yikes. Okay. Well, that was supposed to be doing? I don't I think we're three or four topics in and I don't think the sign has changed. >> So I guess I I guess just if my my one

[51:10] >> you got four minutes. >> Uh my my one last thing about that would be like if you want things to be enraged about in regards to AI, which there are many and there are also many really cool things. I understand my stance on AI is

[51:22] >> Yeah, you're hard to pin down. >> I don't know. I'm sorry about that. But uh there there are tons of cool things. But if you want um But if you want um one more thing to be upset about is that

[51:35] Grock's ability to do that being hampered does not mean all the other ones are having the same experience. And we just saw how easy it is with the

[51:47] And we just saw how easy it is with the most well-known one and know of the most that talks most publicly about safety.

[52:02] >> I've seen I've seen them posture a lot. I've seen them virtue signal a lot about safety. Yeah. >> So and it was that easy, right? like and that's a joke that was like there was like he said he almost never uses he

[52:16] didn't use any of the public like tricks that wasn't put in a in a poem format or threaten it you didn't say that you were >> no and I didn't claim it was me >> cuz I I knew that that would probably be

[52:31] >> because you are then you could say that you specifically give it consent on on your behalf that kind of stuff. So, like you you did the least amount of manipulation almost possible. It was like, "Yes, sir."

[52:44] >> Yeah. >> Anyways, there you go. Have fun with that. >> Uh CW announcements. We've got a couple of those. Where are they? Oh god, I can't find

[52:59] things in the dock. I don't understand. >> There they are. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

[53:11] >> Sure. Uh, today we dropped the super soft hoodie in chocolate mousse and a denim blue. Honestly, people in the office wear these all the time. They do. one of them many times. Uh, which is usually the best sign. It is. It is a

[53:26] good sign. It's ridiculously soft. It feels genuinely luxurious. It's got some nice weight to it, and the extra thick drawstring draw string uh with metal LT tips makes it feel properly premium. If you want to add the Super Soft hoodie to

[53:42] your collection, you can check it out at lmg.gg/supersoft. shoot that they undoubtedly did. >> I'm sure they've been so good lately >> because of course they did. Hello. >> I'm not sure.

[53:57] >> Uh hello. I I saw an image there. Hey, there we go. Look at all those amazing >> And it looks great. >> Look at all those fantastic members of the LMG team. Ain't that beautiful? >> Even that photo is cool.

[54:10] >> They're nailing it lately. >> I love it. I love it. >> I also like how they do that fabric twist thing every time. I love that that's a standard photo on all of them. >> Can you go up that that one

[54:26] it's it's smart >> what it feels like, you know? >> it's the super soft. >> Uh this is one of our best reviewed >> Uh this is one of our best reviewed products um ever.

[54:39] products um ever. People just flipping love this thing. Uh awesome. Great sweater. One of my all-time favorite hoodies. Best hoodie all-time favorite hoodies. Best hoodie I've ever owned. Great hoodie. Um

[54:54] Oh. Oh, this is hilarious. Sorry, Braxton. Your timing is terrible. Three stars. I got this for my wife, and I knew she would love it if it was comfy, and it is. Unfortunately, she hates the color gray. She says it would

[55:08] depression gray. >> Well, you've got uh where where is it? >> The new colors. >> Uh you've got >> chocolate mousse and denim blue. >> Yep. Chocolate mousse and denim blue.

[55:23] There they are. There they are, boys. New colors for you to enjoy that are not depression gray. Fantastic. >> This is probably the thing that I fastest. >> That's impressive cuz Emma steals stuff

[55:37] >> That's impressive cuz Emma steals stuff pretty fast.

[55:51] up one of those, then that would be a perfect time to send a checkout message or a comm. That's right. It's here. The new branding for messages into the show, which we have done such a wonderful job

[56:05] of implementing. Thank you very much for this, Dan. Check this out, Luke. >> Oh, no. >> What?

[56:19] >> They're like taped to the ground. What is happening? What are we doing? >> I don't know, man. >> Oh, I know what's happening. >> I got it. >> I got it.

[56:32] >> The fourth wall is is shattering. >> No. >> My suspension of disbelief. >> They can see the sign.

[56:45] supposed to be moved. >> What is this? >> Doing here. >> You could just stop. You could just put next week. >> I can't put it down. It's going to fall.

[56:57] >> Oh my. >> See, I can't get Oh, >> I wish you guys could see this. I really do. Uh the C. Yeah, >> There we go. >> We're back. We're back to the white.

[57:10] >> We're back. We're back to the white. Anyway, uh, so Dan just put two Post-it notes and part of a Post-it note over the old sign and wrote the new branding on it. >> So, if you want to interact,

[57:25] >> would you forgot to print new signs? No, this is brilliant. I love it. >> Yeah. Um, >> country girls get it done. to interact with the show, the way to do it is not with a super chat, not with a

[57:42] Twitch bit or anything like that, it's with a com. So, a checkout message over on ltd store.com. All you got to do to send one is head over to the store, add anything to your cart. Uh, say for example, if you were able to find any,

[57:59] uh, variant of our new TRUSPEC cables, for instance, you could add that to your for instance, you could add that to your cart and you'll see the comms interface. Look at it right there. Checkout messages. Oh, I it should probably be

[58:12] still working on we're still working on updating everything. Go ahead and type your checkout message. It will go to producer Dan, who will instead of checkout message. >> Oh, okay.

[58:26] >> Yeah, that's fine. Uh, it will go to producer Dan who will pop it up if it's just a shout out or he will reply to it himself or he will curate it. Do you like? >> Sure thing. I've got a few here. People

[58:40] loving the hoodie. Dear LLD, planning our first kid soon, but I fear raising iPad kids as someone with ADHD needing daycare though. I grew up with '90s Nick. What were your thoughts on YouTube kids and how much screen time?

[58:59] >> never under any circumstance go the Coco Melon route. >> Coco Melon? Why? What's wrong? I don't actually know Coco Melon. Is it bad? >> Coco Melon's bad. >> It's objectively bad. You can look into

[59:11] >> Chat will agree with me. I promise you. It is actually just really bad. >> Se is better says, "We love Cocoa." LOL. >> Not there. He's He's I don't think that's what they're referencing genuinely.

[59:25] >> Look at literally every other comment. >> Okay. What am I What am I looking at >> Seriously, look at full plane chat right now. Look at every single comment. >> Oh, it's brain rot. It's better than Caillou. I mean, that's a low bar.

[59:37] >> I actually don't think it is. >> Child brain rot. I disagree. It's objectively bad. >> It's like actually not okay. Don't do not go the Cocon route. There's Miss Rachel. There's Bluey. There are other

[59:51] options. Avoid the Coco Melon route. Like actually, please. >> No, I am not I am not an authority on this. I don't have kids. Go find anyone else who has specific experience with this and they will tell you the same

[1:00:05] >> Okay. >> Mr. Rogers and Arthur. Yeah. Old old >> Not necessarily. I am not a fan of Curious George. Oh, >> Curious George around and never finds out.

[1:00:19] >> And I think it's I think Curious George is full of absolutely just >> Yeah. Not >> unnecessary, completely destructive behavior with no consequences whatsoever. Uh Curious George is

[1:00:31] terrible garbage. Uh I hated it as a parent. Uh there were there were a I'm reading this, I'm going like, "Wow, this Franklin turtle is kind of a little this Franklin turtle is kind of a little shit." And I'm sorry that he's Canadian.

[1:00:44] shit." And I'm sorry that he's Canadian. Like I just not into it. >> One of our birds likes Franklin. >> One of Sorry, what? they're colorful and they have like songs and stuff. So the birds actually

[1:00:57] >> Okay. >> Teaquito's favorite one was uh holy crap, how do I not remember the name of it? The bear

[1:01:09] name of it? The bear honey poo. >> You are like >> Not me. Not me. Not me. >> You are so far removed from mainstream culture sometimes.

[1:01:24] >> that sometimes >> I just wonder if we grew up on the same planet. >> Like how can you struggle to find the >> Like how can you struggle to find the word Winnie the Pooh?

[1:01:39] was rough. And I got there, >> you know, the one with the wars in the in the galaxy. Like what's that one called again? called again? Death Trek. Like just I I I just like I

[1:01:55] can't sometimes with you. >> No, that was Star Wars. >> Yes, I I know.

[1:02:08] Space Balls. What are the odds the new Space Balls movie is good? >> Who's making it? >> Mil Brooks.

[1:02:20] >> What has he done recently? >> Not much. I mean, he's 99. >> Is he really? >> Apparently. Like I I didn't, you know, carbon date him, but >> Whoa. Yeah.

[1:02:37] >> 99%. >> I'm gonna do this and do this and I'm hope. It's all you can do sometimes. >> What of his other films did you genuinely enjoy?

[1:02:50] >> Space balls. Uh uh. >> No. >> Okay. I did. I watched it while I was >> Okay. I did. I watched it while I was folding laundry. It um

[1:03:04] it took me four or five sessions to get through. >> Not a great ind. >> I remember liking that. That's where comb comb with a brick comes from. >> Okay.

[1:03:17] moments. >> Wasn't Blazing Saddles like amazing? >> No. So, I have been told that it's possible that my Canadianness is impacting my ability

[1:03:33] my Canadianness is impacting my ability to enjoy Blazing Saddles. Also, to enjoy Blazing Saddles. Also, my youth was not the youth of, you know, Clint Eastwood and and the whole, you know, the whole cowboys and I what the

[1:03:48] We don't use that word anymore. Whatever. You get the point. the whole like western culture thing had kind of passed by the time that I was consuming

[1:04:00] video media. Um, so there's there's a lot of aspects of so there's there's a lot of aspects of that movie that just aren't funny to me because I don't get a lot of the tropes and or aren't really funny to me because

[1:04:14] I'm not an American. And so the whole race relations between blacks and whites in America thing, I I like I don't really quite get it in the same way that really quite get it in the same way that Americans might. So take what I say for

[1:04:28] what it is, an outsider perspective on Blazing Saddles, did not enjoy it. I watched it maybe a year or two ago, >> Okay. Never seen it. >> Space Balls I liked when I was a little

[1:04:41] kid. Watching it again recently, I was like, "Wow." Oh yeah, they really did get away with kind of unfunny the 80s. >> Did you see Rogue One?

[1:04:54] >> I thought it was great. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I just wanted to spot check for a second cuz I thought it was great. >> And we we we mentioned on W show recently that we both hated all Disney

[1:05:07] >> I'm like that's >> not quite true. >> Technically true. >> I didn't hate Solo. Solo was like >> Yeah. >> It was fine.

[1:05:19] >> Like it like the Marvel equivalent would be >> like Thor Love and Thunder maybe >> or or No, but the No, no. Thor Love and Thunder was terrible. It was the uh the dark the two two the world dark world

[1:05:31] or whatever it was. >> No idea. Uh I don't think either of us >> Uh no, I haven't yet. >> I think Riley says Andor is really good. >> It's really good. which >> I generally trust Riley. I generally

[1:05:46] trust >> and on Star Wars stuff especially. So >> I agree. >> I'm also gonna layer on Yes, >> Oo. >> Um, so I need to watch Andor at some

[1:05:59] point. And >> Rogue One was sick. Rogue One was >> Rogue One was sick. Rogue One was actually like awesome. >> I enjoyed it. I'm just putting that out there.

[1:06:12] >> There were definitely things that annoyed me about it. Like I this like a personal pet peeve of mine when they try to create additional tension uh artificially during the climax of a movie. Like when there's a timer to when

[1:06:27] movie. Like when there's a timer to when the ship will self-destruct and that 15 the ship will self-destruct and that 15 seconds has like 20 minutes of stuff happen in it and you're just like just say 20 minutes and then just have it go

[1:06:40] down at a realistic clip and then have it come down to the last few seconds and then we can it can be a really intense moment. You don't have to just be full Rogue One, there's like this scene. I only watched it once in the theaters, so

[1:06:54] bit wrong here, but there's this scene where only a handful of fighters like make it in before the shield closes. And then we spend the next, again, like 20 minutes of the movie watching like a huge battle take place. And it's like,

[1:07:08] bro, like six of them made it in. What huge battle is there? Like the whole huge battle is there? Like the whole thing was just kind of confusing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I don't remember enough to make a point,

[1:07:22] >> I don't remember enough to make a point, but yeah. Anyways, uh I feel like for basically historic reasons, I've got to see Space Balls 2. >> Yeah, I'm going to watch it. MX says Space Balls 2 just being an unironically

[1:07:36] Space Balls 2 just being an unironically good Star Wars movie would be hilarious. >> That would be, Dude, holy crap. If Space Balls 2 was just the the writing prompts Balls 2 was just the the writing prompts that George Lucas gave Disney

[1:07:51] for the next episode, that's just it. >> They just made a good Star Wars movie. >> They just made a good Star Wars movie. >> Kill. Holy crap. It would kill.

[1:08:05] cool. >> Have you seen the the Star Wars theory haven't. >> I can't play it because we'll get taken down by Disney to all heck. Um, Star Wars Theory.

[1:08:21] Star Wars Theory. >> Galaxy Quest is a quality spoof film. >> So, like, no, I have not enjoyed Mel Brooks's films generally, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good spoof. So, I don't I don't know, man. And I

[1:08:34] just feel like spoofs evolved and Mel Brooks didn't is is kind of where I'm at >> 16-minute fan film. Uh there's a bunch of credits. I'm going to say 12 minutes or something. 30 million views from 7

[1:08:49] episode 2 coming. >> Oh wow, that's pretty cool. >> Uh there's a teaser trailer for episode two from 9 months ago.

[1:09:02] trailer. >> Yeah, Andre B, that's a good point. Airplane is also an amazing spoof film. Um, and is also old and is in has a very like8s low production value style of humor. I do think Airplane really runs

[1:09:19] out of gas in the second half though. The first half is really funny and then it just kind of overstays its welcome a little bit in my opinion, but nobody Lucas actually done anything interesting with his billions after selling it to

[1:09:31] with his billions after selling it to Disney? He's making like a crazy museum. >> I think it's supposed to open soon, isn't it? Or it already opened. >> Not sure. >> The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art. Look

[1:09:44] >> Look at that, dude. >> 227 days. I want to go to that. Where is >> I think it's in California. >> Of course it is. >> Yeah. LA. >> LA, I'm assuming. Yeah. What a crazy.

[1:10:00] doing. This what they used to do. >> Solid. There's a Star Wars episode 1 through three right there. do a little zoom in there? >> No, I I'm trying to scroll through the

[1:10:14] >> Oh god. >> Trip canceled. So annoying. >> Like I was Look, you had me in the first half. that it it doesn't even zoom in on her face. It just

[1:10:29] >> so ridiculous. >> What a crazy looking building, though. >> Yeah. So, that's that's what he's up to. Apparently, he's been quite involved in

[1:10:41] >> It's like actually a really big deal to him. seems like like one of those like no, no, this is my legacy now moves, which is pretty basic. >> He seems pretty salty about Star Wars.

[1:10:55] with him or anything. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He seems pretty mad to the point where like uh apparently, man, what's his guy. >> Oh, Iger.

[1:11:08] >> Uh yeah, Bob Iger. He he reached out to him and was like, you know, when you like say stuff like that, it's like your stock that goes down too. conversations and George Lucas was basically like, "Yeah, I don't care."

[1:11:22] Uh, so like, yeah, he's he's apparently like really not stoked. >> I'd be so mad. >> He gave them

[1:11:35] he gave them the road and it probably would have had the same thing that, you people hated it first, but then they started to see like some of the art in it. It's still not as good, but like they saw some of the art in it, which is

[1:11:47] going to have that. They just kind of suck. >> I don't know. Oh, you might be. I've I've met people who like them. >> Do they have good opinions on things? >> Well, obviously not because,

[1:12:09] genuinely just like, you're overthinking it. They're they're fun. They're fun to watch. And I I don't know, man. I just >> Do they care about Star Wars? Cuz I think that's part of the problem is if you actually care about the universe,

[1:12:21] >> But is is caring about Star Wars kind of cringe? >> Yeah, sure. But so is caring about almost anything. So like, who cares? >> Sure. Okay. I mean, yeah, that's that's that's fair. That's fair. Like, I get

[1:12:33] that's fair. That's fair. Like, I get it. I just I don't know, man. I

[1:12:48] but yeah like I I I I can't I can't imagine having seen original trilogy and then seeing what happened and being like this is fine.

[1:13:01] float plane chat says, "I liked The Last Jedi." And it's like, "Right." But but then but how can you be invested in The Last Jedi when it doesn't pay off

[1:13:14] anything that came before it and nothing that it sets up gets paid off? >> Yeah. Like this is part of the problem. I came out of The Last Jedi being pretty not happy, but being like, "All right, we'll see where they go."

[1:13:28] >> And then they went nowhere. >> Yeah. They just completely threw it all away. >> Yeah.

[1:13:40] character of a hero is just so >> stupid. >> It's so unnecessary. It's so modern Disney. We can't just have a clear good guy and bad guy. Everyone has to be

[1:13:53] >> And you could give him some shades of gray, but just like >> Sure you could. Don't do it that way. >> I mean, he had shades of gray already. >> That was like his whole thing.

[1:14:05] >> That was like his whole thing. >> He was brash and he was impulsive and he was angry and and he was arrogant. and he was arrogant. Luke Skywalker is not a perfect person

[1:14:19] and that's why we love him so much. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, um >> and it's just so incredibly not core to we don't have to talk about Star Wars forever. We can we

[1:14:31] >> coming back to the actual question. My son watched a lot of this channel and it seemed pretty productive. It's just like kind of catchy chill songs that tell you

[1:14:44] kind of catchy chill songs that tell you like how to play this game or what are colors or um >> alphabetics. He legit I swear I will actually I will

[1:14:57] He legit I swear I will actually I will I will say this under oath. He read earlier because of phonics song and phonics song too. Uh un undeniably because I would uh in the morning when I wasn't ready to get up yet and he was

[1:15:12] wasn't ready to get up yet and he was awake I'd be like phonics song and it would start just playing kids TV 123 starting with phonics song. So he watched Phonx song probably at least two three times a week

[1:15:25] like definitely on weekend days at least once for I don't know probably a year uh when he was at that age and into that sort of thing and yeah kids TV123 pretty good >> people just mentioned Hooked on Phonics

[1:15:40] that's a bit of a call back >> never did Hooked on Phonics >> with my constantly constantly bad Did I tell you about my report cards recently. I got my hands on some of mine. I didn't bring them in today,

[1:15:53] in. I >> No, we were just talking about them. >> Yeah, but I uh just like >> I'm so warm. This is so warm. >> Yep. I can't. >> Um very comfy. Just also

[1:16:05] lttore.com. >> Um every year, every year, every term, every single you know. Boy, we sure wish this kid could read.

[1:16:17] >> Pretty much joy to have in the class. Works well with others. All this kind of stuff. Oh, great, great, great, great, great. It's like really reading, >> it's like, okay, cool. You guys didn't notice a pattern.

[1:16:30] notice a pattern. >> Come on. >> All right. Hit me. >> Not merge message. Comms. >> Sorry, my dashboard. >> Another com. Another com. Hey Wan. DLL.

[1:16:47] What is one tech misconception that drives you up the wall? For me, it's drives you up the wall? For me, it's when a dub plug is called DB or people don't understand that USBC is just the plug and not the standard. Has have you

[1:17:00] ever heard a dub called DB? >> Literally never. >> Never heard of that. I I guess it would probably annoy me to hear something just think my biggest

[1:17:12] >> my biggest tech misconception >> my biggest tech misconception has to be when people don't understand has to be when people don't understand the difference between intranet speed

[1:17:25] and internet speed and will confidently make statements like I wouldn't get any make statements like I wouldn't get any benefit from faster Wi-Fi 6E or Wi-Fi 7 benefit from faster Wi-Fi 6E or Wi-Fi 7 because my internet provider only does

[1:17:40] uh 100 megabit, bro. We're talking about when you're transferring files over your local network, you can get an enormous benefit from a faster local network. Um

[1:17:56] and >> they might not do that, but in some >> they might not do that, but in some cases they might. And it many of the times that I'm reading these comments, it's on a project where we are doing

[1:18:09] that and they they're like not understanding it. Like I'll like I did a video ages ago on 2 and a half gig networking back when it was finally getting somewhat affordable to have greater than gigabit. And I'm pretty

[1:18:21] sure one of the things that we set up was like accessing a file server. And they're like, well, the comment section was full of I wouldn't get it's all I Oh my god, the two things transferring files to and from each other are right

[1:18:35] next to each other. We don't need the internet connection for that. I'm going to hyperventilating right now because I just I can't cover every basic concept in every single video because I will bore the longtime

[1:18:48] viewers, but I can't deal with new viewers watching and not grasping this foundational basic concept that the link is just between these two machines. It has nothing to do with your internet provider.

[1:19:09] >> I don't think there's a lot that actually really bother me that much. >> Really? What if someone calls the tower the CPU? mean. >> What if someone calls the monitor the

[1:19:23] >> I would correct them, but it's not going to like bother me. I would correct them. to like bother me. I would correct them. I like that.

[1:19:35] my kids cuz I It makes sense. Like kids, they interact with the screen and especially my kids. >> The tower's not there. room. So, it's understandable. >> It is the monitor.

[1:19:47] >> It is the monitor. >> That's like almost not fair. they use in the car where the computer's in the trunk. >> Oh my god. So like that they're my computers are in different.

[1:19:59] >> They must be such confusing people for their friends to talk to about computer the basement as well? >> Why is your computer >> No, no, but we don't use it in the basement.

[1:20:12] We're in the car. No. trunk. >> Dan Vibes asks, um, would there be room for a channel called Tech for Dummies or something similar? The problem with a

[1:20:26] tech for dummies channel is that the people who need it would not watch it. Uh because YouTube algorithmically there's no way would would would serve people what they need to know more about as opposed to what they what their

[1:20:40] have tech wiki. >> Yeah. The closest thing we've been able to come up with is tech wiki. And how techie is like kind of supposed to work. Is it supposed to be fun and informative for you? Maybe. And if not, it's a thing

[1:20:53] that you can share. >> Is it relaunched yet? No. Soon. >> Yeah. Game linked is back up though. >> The router is not the modem. >> Yeah. But even that like Okay. So, there was a my building recently had a um

[1:21:12] uh we have two elevators and they were both down, which is like pretty both down, which is like pretty annoying. So, Emma and I put little obvious reasons, but Emma and I put little signs up saying like if you have

[1:21:25] mobility issues or whatever, I texted you carrying things up the stairs. Yeah. >> Uh call text and Emma and Luke will try to help. Smiley face. >> this was such a sweet thing for her to do. And also

[1:21:40] do. And also >> Wow. Um opening up potentially the >> It was mostly fine. >> I could just I could see people taking advantage of something like that.

[1:21:52] someone taking advantage at first. So, the the the the the funniest one in my opinion was that uh I I helped a lady carry a baby stroller up the stairs while the baby was sleeping in it. So,

[1:22:06] >> That's a little scary. >> And we succeeded. >> It just stresses me out. >> Climbing up the stairs and stuff, but >> Just got to get up there. >> What's she going to do? s in the way for

[1:22:19] >> and waking the baby can be such a bad move. Like you can pay depending on how >> baby was very chill oraryy your child is, it can it can suck because if you wake them up like midnap, it can throw the whole cycle off where you can't get

[1:22:33] them back to sleep for this nap and then they get like overt tired and cranky for for that one and then your like next day is miserable. But I don't know, some people have babies that sleep well so good for you. This one seemed like one

[1:22:45] >> I didn't get them. >> It It wasn't perfect and it stayed asleep. So, yeah. Um but one of them they texted Emma and they said, "Oh, I can find that." >> Having mobility challenges.

[1:22:59] >> Yeah. >> Um their their interpretation of that was mobility. They're having issues with their phone. >> oh my god, >> this was a fairly heavy

[1:23:15] >> free BCTL mobility >> ESL situation. Um I want to find the >> old slogan for a local uh cellular carrier back in the day. >> that's crazy. I can't remember the last time we called it mobility

[1:23:30] >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I love saying cellular telephone. idiots. I don't think it's like an >> this is absolutely not intelligence >> either being old or just like English

[1:23:43] not first language. >> It was a great grandma who recently moved here from a non like I have been there. This is a non-English-speaking >> and she was doing her best. >> Um

[1:23:56] >> based on the messaging Emma and I kind of sused out this was probably not someone just trying to like abuse the situation. they probably didn't understand and they seemed like they actually just had no idea what was

[1:24:09] and fix it pretty quick. So, and based on their description, it sounded like >> right? >> So, we just went over there and we just went over there and helped them get through like the phone tree to get

[1:24:22] everything instantly worked and it was totally fine and she was very nice. a great grandma from I'm not going to dox her, but uh yeah, >> a foreign country. And it was it was great. And it was it was short. It

[1:24:35] >> No big deal. >> Very nice. >> That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me.

[1:24:50] Oh, yeah. Because she she she was like, "Yeah, the mo one of the things she said was that the modem The modem was working, but the internet is stuck. And this was where we were like

[1:25:04] probably not English first language because she said like phone is stuck cuz like if you're stuck stuck in mobility issues, right?

[1:25:17] >> Like my phone is stuck, my internet is stuck, my TV is stuck, the modem is working. and she like specified in asterisks the modem is working and I showed up and she was totally right. The modem was working.

[1:25:31] There's just no there was no subscription so there's no service but the modem up and there was a little light that like indicated that it was out. Like she was actually just genuinely very reasonably lost.

[1:25:46] >> Yep. opening up the modem to make sure that the little mice on the wheel >> effectively. >> Um, all right. What are we supposed to be doing right now? >> More topics. Uh, Notepad++ got hacked.

[1:26:01] >> This was major news this week. Notepad++, the popular text editor with tens of millions of users, had its update system hijacked for about 6 months by Chinese state sponsored hackers called Lotus Blossom. The

[1:26:15] attackers compromised the shared hosting provider behind Notepad++'s update servers, then selectively redirected certain targeted users to malicious servers that were serving tampered updates. Not everyone, just specific

[1:26:31] government and infrastructure targets in Southeast Asia and Central America. The attackers briefly lost access in September when the host did a routine server update, but they got back in using stolen credentials that were never

[1:26:44] rotated. Nobody noticed until December of 2025. Before the patch, Notepad++'s updater had zero verification, no certificate had zero verification, no certificate checks, no signature validation. Dang.

[1:26:59] Rapid 7's investigation found that the hackers deployed a custom backd dooror called Chrysalis on victim systems and security researcher Kevin Bowmont said at least three organizations saw hands-on network reconnaissance after

[1:27:13] being hit. Notepad++ has since patched the updater migrated hosting providers and plans to enforce mandatory signature verification in the next version. This attacks targeting developer tools. Solar Winds, 3CX, XXZ utils, and now

[1:27:29] Notepad++. Our discussion question here is, Notepad++ is used by millions of people and it took 6 months for anyone to notice the update system had no real security. How much do we just blindly

[1:27:43] trust software updates? And should there be some minimum security standard for update mechanisms? >> Is this a spicy take? You got to tell me. No.

[1:28:04] going with this because you you like can't cuz that's the whole point of open source is you're not telling people how to do stuff. >> literally, how even can you >> a big part of Yeah. So that I agree

[1:28:19] >> a big part of Yeah. So that I agree with. But a big part of of of the trust that people have in open source is that it's it it's it's able to be audited. But just because something can be audited doesn't mean that it is being

[1:28:33] audited. And it doesn't mean that it's being audited in a way that is likely to catch something like this. Like I I got to admit I I don't I don't work in the of familiarity with all the different kinds of attacks that are out there. It

[1:28:47] kinds of attacks that are out there. It would not have occurred to me that someone or an an organization, a group would target a utility like this like would target a utility like this like broadly like really gain really powerful

[1:29:01] >> Oh yeah. >> But then would use it on very specific targets rather than just go wide. >> Yeah. You'd you'd often try to find who

[1:29:14] you've hit basically. And the vast majority of it's just gonna be useless because I mean like no offense and this includes me, you're probably not that >> Yeah. >> But like some people will be and stuff

[1:29:27] >> right >> by a lot of people. >> by a lot of people. >> So it's a matter of of fishing through digging through >> everything that you've got access to and

[1:29:40] and and and really targeting your attack. That's like that's that's >> Yeah, >> that's crazy. And Notepad++ is something that's been around for so long that I just sort of implicitly trust because

[1:29:55] scandal-free. >> Everything the the the standard line which never changes is everything can be hacked effectively and and and you can say stuff like air gap. I I've heard from some pretty serious people that

[1:30:11] they're okay with it. So take that as what you will. I will never be okay with has a network cable plugged into it. That drives me insane. >> The term is airgapped.

[1:30:25] >> Mhm. >> If there isn't a gap of air, software airgapped. >> Mhm. >> Shut up. I hate I hate it so much. But >> can I It's wireless. Can I pitch

[1:30:38] >> Yes. Solid. >> Darn it. I have my everything is lost. >> Get owned. Segregated VLAN does not equal air gap. Yes. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Hold on. I had this company reach out about their products like a

[1:30:53] long time ago. They wanted to like work together on something and I was like >> That's my That's the thing that irritates me. >> Air gap when it's not actually airgapped. Okay. What do you think of

[1:31:06] this one? So it's a it was a network switch that could be through software >> So I I >> So it could actually have it could have

[1:31:18] talked to me about this deactivated. >> I thought it was not okay personally >> right? >> If it could only ever no matter what do >> Then I would be okay with that. >> So if you had to physically get off your

[1:31:32] butt and go press a button in order to turn it back on, plug it in. >> if I remember correctly, no, I just thought it worked this way. >> It clicks it off internally. Yeah, internally. So, no. So, but but if it

[1:31:46] worked one way, so if you could turn it off through software, but in order to turn it back on, you had to get up off your butt and you had to press a button contacts, would that be good enough for you?

[1:32:00] >> Okay. All right. >> But but there are issues there. I I this is a theoretical situation where there's no way that you could spoof it into the user thinking that something happened when it didn't, which is also not legit.

[1:32:16] >> So like there there's other kind of problems with that. But let's say what you described purely works that way. But this is the problem. Nothing does, man. gapping. Yeah. I mean there's there's scenarios where like my thing is like if

[1:32:29] it if it turned off something and you could not turn it back on. Ah, does that work? My original thought on on this device that you're describing when you was like >> a remotec controlled little arm that

[1:32:44] >> Sorry. >> And then I heard it was not and then I was a lot less interested. Um, and I understand I'm I'm like too pedantic on this and and a lot of again very serious people have told me that it's fine. So,

[1:32:58] >> Okay, sounds good. >> They love XM radio. Oh man. Um, >> yeah, they love trying to take care of

[1:33:10] >> yeah, they love trying to take care of their godson and then dying.

[1:33:25] for that. >> I thought it was pretty good. >> I thought it was pretty good. >> That was trash. Oh, wait. This one. unfair. >> I think I think that's crazy.

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[1:36:44] want to do. >> It's web WAN feeb 26 just in case. >> Yep. >> All right. What do you want to talk >> Maybe float plane announcement. >> Fine. We've got an LTT early release for

[1:37:00] today. Oh. Oh, okay. What am I supposed to release over on Flowplane? But before >> on Full Play this week, we got a BTS look at Tatiana and Lisa's behind the scenes on we got a behindthescenes look at Tatiana and Lisa's behind the scenes.

[1:37:17] >> Okay. On their trip to user error. I mean, you were you were all over me when I screwed up a read, so fine. I'm >> I didn't even screw it up. >> Thanks, Sammy. uh where where Colton got to do some modeling for some creator

[1:37:31] warehouse uh I mean products >> nice solid little trip down memory lane we got to see Elijah's first time on camera and saw how he transformed into the writer >> gooner and host we see today this is

[1:37:46] again in the script with some insider stories for some of his AMD upgrade shoots. Um >> I think he works security at Defcon. Uh, speaking of Elijah, let's publish Monday's LTT video right now for

[1:38:00] >> Oh, I can do that. >> Line is to give blurb about the video. Make it public live on WAN, please. >> Which one is it? >> Oh, is it I let my kids He links it every time. You just have to click the

[1:38:12] >> It's I let my Yeah, it's that one. >> I let my kids pick their new phones. All >> You know, just in case there's like versioning and stuff, you should probably click the link in the future. >> Well, I guess I didn't. I'm just saying

[1:38:26] everyone. >> It's low. They can see the the broken >> Yeah, that's true. That's true. They wouldn't mind. >> They they bonus for the bonus. >> Okay. Did this work? I can't tell if

[1:38:41] my god. >> Yeah. Don't Don't Google that. Uh, did this work? I don't think this worked. >> I must have screwed up. >> I don't see it. It says public. Oh, 723. Oh, does it go

[1:38:57] public in like a minute? >> Uh, yeah, I think that's a thing. >> Uh, yeah, I think that's a thing. >> Oh, okay. Sure. Is it Is it like better live? >> Notification. We've been messing with

[1:39:10] notification thing. >> Oh, okay. All right. Well, it'll be live in a minute. >> Honestly, >> Six seconds ago. add to my personal testing stuff is like actual publishing.

[1:39:26] cool. Good chat. >> Yo, it worked. about next? We can talk about anything you want. Literally anything. Anything.

[1:39:38] >> Star Wars. Teams. >> Oh god. No. Not Star Wars. Not Teams. Neither of those things. Anything but those things. >> Any of the topics on the dock. I think you mean I want to talk about renting my

[1:39:50] you mean I want to talk about renting my body out. Uh, rent a human.ai >> is a new site that lets AI agents hire actual humans for realworld tasks at $50 to $175 an hour. >> Okay, that actually sounds like kind of

[1:40:05] >> There's no way that most people are actually getting that though. Okay, I'm >> Don't I do that for Lionus? Is he renting my body right now? Kind of. Built by crypto engineer Alexander Light

[1:40:18] Plow. Uh, it got about 70,000 human signups, but only around 70 AI agents signups, but only around 70 AI agents connected. So, a 1:1,000 ratio of task givers to task doers. Payment is in crypto,

[1:40:33] >> Okay, well, that explains a lot. >> Only 13% of signups actually connected a wallet, suggesting most people treated as a novelty. One of the first things users did was spin up a meme coin tied to the project,

[1:40:50] then use the platform to have an AI agent hire a human to hold a sign reading, "An AI paid me to hold this sign." It's a meta stunt. Use the novelty of AI hiring humans to generate buzz for both

[1:41:04] the platform and the token they're trying to pump. By the way, if you want to do this but with less middlemen, you can just hire people on Craigslist or maybe Facebook Marketplace like we did all of the years up until now. Uh, this

[1:41:19] came out of the moltbook ecosystem, the AI only social network that security firm Whiz found had an an exposed database. Oh yeah, this was crazy. Had

[1:41:31] an exposed database full with readr access to the entire platform. 1.5 million API keys and 35,000 email addresses. The founder bragged uh he didn't write a single line of code. This is this is all this is fully legit. Uh

[1:41:45] Molt Book's 1.5 million agents were controlled by just 17,000 humans, an 88 to1 ratio. Viral posts about AI consciousness and secret robot languages turned out to be humans marketing AI messaging apps.

[1:42:07] founding team, I hope I said that right, initially called Moltbook the most incredible sci-fi takeoff adjacent thing I've seen recently and then walked it back admitting it was a lot of garbage. There's a clear

[1:42:20] pattern. Crypto people are building a AI agent platforms with vibe coding, shipping code they've never read, and acting surprised when it all falls acting surprised when it all falls apart. Uh, is this in quotes still? I

[1:42:33] don't think so. Uh, Open Claus creator publicly said, "I ship code I never publicly said, "I ship code I never read.

[1:42:47] good. That's good. That's good. >> Speaking of crypto, you see Bitcoin's uh >> Oh, yeah. >> on the struggle bus a little bit lately. >> Yeah, pretty much. >> Hedge against dollar volatility. A

[1:43:00] >> uh >> how about how's that going for you? Um >> not financial advice >> for the people that like >> not not financial advice. None of this is financial advice on that.

[1:43:13] >> You know, if you invested 5 years ago, you're still up 61%. >> I mean, yeah, that's something. Um, if you invested literally all of the time ago, you're up 16,000%.

[1:43:32] That just means you need to Nope. I'm not even going to make that joke. >> No, you just got to find a coin and invest earlier. invest earlier. >> Oh, stop. Not financial advice.

[1:43:44] >> Oh, stop. Not financial advice. >> He doesn't know. doesn't know shirt yet? >> It's a pretty

[1:43:57] >> That's kind of remarkable. >> I think it'd be one of those WAN show >> A plain black shirt with black text that just says I'm a narcissist would have just says I'm a narcissist would have gone so hard in like 2008,

[1:44:10] gone so hard in like 2008, 2007. Like actually sold at like >> it would have been everywhere. Warehouse Yeah. >> No, I would No, it would have had to

[1:44:22] have like a pun or something in it for warehouse one or like funny. >> Reversible t-shirt. >> Reversible t-shirt. >> I'm a narcissist and I don't know.

[1:44:38] then have enough problems and then change it to I don't know. >> hey, speaking of t-shirts, okay, we need to have this meeting.

[1:44:50] >> Huh? Oh, >> I asked you to pick one and you completely left me on red, which is not cool, brother. Not cool. Okay, so now you guys get to be the judges instead of Luke. You're going to

[1:45:06] help us pick between these two designs. I'm going to Oh, this is so tedious. Uh, them and then I'm going to send them to Dan. Um

[1:45:19] Dan. Um Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Okay. I Okay. Do you want to do a really quick topic while I send this to Dan? topic while I send this to Dan? >> Sure. Uh,

[1:45:36] MMO RPG Ashes of Creation suddenly implodes 52 days after Steam early access launch? Ashes of Creation has reportedly uh imploded. We keep doing haven't given that feedback. Um,

[1:45:50] >> but I think we should not do that. Yeah, >> the intro to it and the title should not >> No, that's good feedback. You know what's bad feedback?

[1:46:07] early access with founder Steven Sharif resigning, senior leadership leaving, and mass layoffs hitting the studio. Uh, reports suggest the company may have been sold to a private equity firm that ultimately cut the entire workforce

[1:46:22] could be life or death. >> Yep. Oh, boy. Well, let's see if this camera still works. Hey, >> there's nothing I can flip over. >> What were you going to flip over? I

[1:46:35] little pillow or something, but there's nothing I can flip over. >> Well, he's already flipped over half of my head, so you know, whatever. >> Oh, no. What is he doing? >> Good enough. Um, okay. D. The MMO earned

[1:46:53] an estimated 11 to6 million on Steam, but struggled with mixed reviews and player drop off, while backers are now questioning earlier promises tied to the Kickstarter campaign. Apparently, they promised to reimburse all Kickstarter

[1:47:07] promised to reimburse all Kickstarter backers if they didn't launch the game, and it only lasted 52 days after launch. the CEO, Steven Sheree or Sheriff or something uh used to be involved in the wondrous world of multi-level marketing

[1:47:23] allowed to launch unfinished games in early access? If there's a real risk a there's a real risk they all collapse soon after. So, if that's a thing, then release in early access. Uh discussion question. Do you think uh something more

[1:47:37] idea. If I remember correctly, this rabbit hole goes pretty deep and I don't know enough about it. A serious question I do have is what's what's the most recent MMO launch that like worked?

[1:47:52] Um, do you have any idea, Dan? Did you hear me? What's the most recent MMO launch that actually worked? Like new one? >> I not entirely sure there's like too many new ones.

[1:48:06] I don't feel like they uh like like the the the two MMOs. >> Albian Online. I'm not going to lie, I thought Albian Online was like a scam game forever because their ads sound incredibly fake all of the time.

[1:48:21] >> Warhammer Online. I don't know if I would call that an MMO. Is Genshin would call that an MMO. Is Genshin Impact an MMO? don't actually really know, but I think so. Albony online has

[1:48:36] so. Albony online has reviews. I wouldn't classify Pokémon Go as an MMO.

[1:48:52] Holy, this is of Albian Online. You guys got to see this. I'm sorry uh Esso for got to see this. I'm sorry uh Esso for putting you on on W show, but I was dying in PvP constantly, so I decided to collect stones. My stone collecting

[1:49:07] skill was high. I spent all days collecting stones. After that, I rode a donkey through lethal zones, and people kept killing my donkey. This upset me, and I uninstalled the game, but I like the game design and the astral staff.

[1:49:22] the game design and the astral staff. Wow. >> Kind of incredible. >> I died a lot. So, I picked up rocks and then I rode a donkey and they killed my donkey and now I'm sad and I quit.

[1:49:37] >> But aren't good though. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, kind of. >> You don't seem a little bit more honest. >> That's like an actual person who had an experience with a product.

[1:49:50] >> Yeah. And also >> instead of like the the 10 trillion basically make a career out of it. >> Uh yeah. sounds good. >> Nobody dead.

[1:50:05] >> Nice. Solid. >> Always good. >> well it's not always good. I mean you know >> Yeah. >> Yeah. From that phone call though.

[1:50:18] >> Yes. >> Um All right. Well, I mean I I don't know, man. I'm someone's like, "Dang, Lionus." But it's like Yeah. >> We're get we're getting to the age where

[1:50:32] like when an elderly relative calls, it could very well be, >> you know, that and it's not the first time that my phone has rang with that relative. So there's a little bit of, you know, there's a little bit of like

[1:50:47] >> I don't know if this is a topic we want to really broach, but my my grandpa was had to flip something. Uh my grandpa was in that state for a very long time and in that state for a very long time and it in a way it helped.

[1:51:00] It kind of helped because there was like I had I had accepted this before his actual passing. Oh, I guess like every time the phone rang from that number, you were like, "Maybe this is the call." >> Okay. I'm not enjoying the stress in the

[1:51:15] >> No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is it is it it felt like it dulled the >> I guess that's fair. >> Um sharpening. >> Yeah. These are some of my favorite

[1:51:27] >> It's uh >> No, I Yeah, I liked my grandpa. >> Yeah. This was >> It wasn't that It wasn't a downer. It >> Yeah, >> it's pretty funny in retrospect. It

[1:51:39] >> it's pretty funny in retrospect. It wasn't really that funny at the time. >> But you know what I actually really like about it is that like obviously, you know, I don't have the same kind of experience of knowing Luke's grandpa

[1:51:54] experience of knowing Luke's grandpa that he does, but we do have one really incredible memory that we can share of someone who was talks about his grandfather, you know, like I have an extremely vivid u very

[1:52:11] memorable experience that we all got to share together, which is honestly probably better than if he hadn't threatened me with the knife. I was going to say if if you were if there if the goal was for you to learn

[1:52:24] as much about him as possible in the amount of time that that took, which is amount of time that that took, which is the only exposure you ever had to him, >> If he had been just like kind of a vegetable grandpa, I probably I'd like

[1:52:38] I'd like be a good friend when you talked about him, but I wouldn't really know any I wouldn't really I wouldn't really understand a lot of the things when I say he's like pretty intense and he was a Marine.

[1:52:51] >> Yeah. I'd be like, "Oh, yeah. Yeah." >> Now I'm like, "Uh-huh." >> Yes. >> That's an understatement, sir. Thank >> That's an understatement, sir. Thank you. Carry on.

[1:53:05] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um I This is We're not going to go into this, but I often think about what he happening right now.

[1:53:18] >> in the world. >> Yeah. Anyways, um >> Cool. >> Um Intel CEO commits to building new.

[1:53:33] this, unfortunately. >> Yeah, I got so excited by this and now >> That means nothing. >> A lot of people didn't actually read it. Intel CEO commits to building new GPUs and has hired the engineer who designed

[1:53:47] hits to design them. >> So, on the surface, that sounds great. We're going to get RV770 and then Celestial is going to be hot on its heels and it's going to be freaking awesome. It's going to be awesome. We're

[1:54:00] going to have competition. Okay, Luke, let us down easy. >> Well, who they hired was chip architect Eric Demer. Demers or Demir. Demer Demer Eric Demer. Demers or Demir. Demer Demer Demir. uh usually what it is for him.

[1:54:14] >> I think it's Demer. Uh he's the Terascale guy, arguably the reason ATI/AMD was so good back in the early 2000s. He's also the guy behind Qualcomm's Adreno GPUs, which like

[1:54:26] >> Yeah, >> this was I was I was embarrassing embarrassing days old when I realized this.

[1:54:44] >> You didn't know that? >> No. >> Crazy, right? Anyway, carry on. >> Yeah. Uh, the announcement came during an AI focused event suggesting these GPUs will likely prioritize AI and Oh,

[1:54:59] no, no, no. It's it's not suggested. Oh, I think we're missing some quotes here. I'll try to dig it up after maybe. Uh, Intel already has multiple AI GPU been inconsistent with some products delayed, canceled, or unclear in status.

[1:55:14] Uh, the rumored Intel ARC B770 big battle mage gaming GPU may be delayed or Yeah, but leaks have been wrong about this since the beginning of Intel GPUs.

[1:55:26] Anyways, with leaks suggesting Intel could prioritize workstation. Oh, this part. Yeah, it's it's not really leaks. Uh reports say the GPU may be financially viable. However, the same BMG G31 chip is expected to be seen in

[1:55:42] gaming version reportedly already existing, hinting that we will still maybe possibly potentially get the card later. A lot of people are like, wait, what conspiracy? No, no, it was like a thing.

[1:55:57] Imagi Imagion media co-proc co-processors and acceleration and other multimedia features for mobile phones PDAs. AMD

[1:56:09] sold the Imagion mobile handheld graphics division to Qualcomm in 2009 where it was used exclusively inside their Snapdragon SoC processors under the Adrino name which was based on Radeon as sort of a a nod to its

[1:56:24] heritage as coming from ATI. >> Cool. Eh, now you know. >> Cool. Eh, now you know. Uh,

[1:56:37] I'm pretty sure Liboutan specifically said um that they're going to be yeah, Intel says it will build its own GPUs. That makes me want to die. Um, all these different titles.

[1:56:51] It's like, yeah, what are you guys doing? Anyways, um I'm I'm pretty sure he more specifically said like the the push here is for data

[1:57:04] center stuff. Um people are saying it's rumors and stuff, people are saying it's rumors and stuff, but I I I thought it was like a quote. >> Well, there was a quote from him saying that a big part of Intel's

[1:57:17] one specifically about GPU. >> Okay, I'm still going to finish that for last week. Uh a big part of Intel's shortfall lately is that they're did not they focus too much on consumer and not enough on data center and AI and

[1:57:31] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look look look in an interview with Reuters on the sidelines interview with Reuters on the sidelines of it's tied in with the data center. We're working with customers and we'll then define what the customer needs.

[1:57:45] It's tied in with the data center. This is I don't think this is a rumor. >> Their pushes for data center. >> Well, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully, >> that we won't get them. If memory availability loosens up and they already

[1:57:59] built the GPU anyway, maybe we get some desktop graphics drivers for it and then >> this is not necessarily >> maybe look I don't I don't know much about your leadership of Intel yet, but I

[1:58:16] still feel like, you know, we could talk, we could chat. Please GPUs for us. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:58:32] Oh, hey. Is it time for arc search? >> Sure. Arc B580. How close to MSRP are we, >> Is it a better world that we get popups every time we go to websites now? Did we

[1:58:46] improve things? We're $40, We're $40, but we still get Battlefield. but we still get Battlefield. It's worse, but it's not that bad. Also,

[1:58:59] It's worse, but it's not that bad. Also, this open box seems to be in stock. Does it come with No, it doesn't come with Battlefield. So, that's an option, but you don't get the the holiday or the Yeah, the holiday bundle. Your only

[1:59:13] options for holiday bundle are I mean honestly for $10 more I'd probably take the triple fan cooler. Yeah, it's it's not 250. It's more like

[1:59:25] 300. There are Oh, there are games other than Battlefield. Battlefield's just the >> Yeah, >> but there is also D. Here you go. Assassin's Creed Shadows or

[1:59:39] Dying Light the Beast. Quickly, Shadows actually reviewed pretty well. >> Or Civilization 7. So, you get one of those. We just always bring up that people are more likely to >> to want to play. So, no, there is no

[1:59:55] there's no arc for MSRP, at least not on New Egg right now. But it's still not as bad as it's probably going to get is all I'll say probably going to get is all I'll say about that.

[2:00:11] >> I don't think you sent it to me. >> What?

[2:00:24] Okay, we can do a topic in the meantime. Yeah, we can do a poll. The Austrian Supreme Court. Oh, wait. Oh, I was excited about this because the first time I read this, I was excited about it because I misread it. The Austrian

[2:00:39] Supreme Court declares EA Sports FC's loot boxes and FC Ultimate Mode do not constitute gambling. Yep. Says they're not gambling, arguing

[2:00:52] that player skill still impacts success even though rewards are randomized. >> Okay. So, Blackjack isn't gambling. Poker isn't gambling. Hearts isn't gambling. Roulette isn't gambling.

[2:01:07] Okay, that one is a bit of a reach. >> You think you can have skill at >> I think Well, you have to put the pieces into the correct place for where the number's going to come up. >> Dan,

[2:01:21] Cuz I don't think you are. >> Sounds like loot boxes to me. You get to pick which one you want, right? >> Oh, I see. Okay. Okay. You No, he's just being Dan about it. That makes that makes way more sense. Okay.

[2:01:34] should try listening. >> I think it's arguable that there is there is an amount of skill even if close to immeasurable in basically everything other than slots. Hm. Is there anything that I mean, no,

[2:01:51] you can't say. Okay, so you're trying to tell me a die roll has a degree of >> That's I don't think an honest die roll has a degree of skill. And I would make the argument that rolling the bead or the marble or whatever for roulette.

[2:02:03] Like there there is no way. >> I've never done a skill shot, but I >> The roulette wheel the dealer spins. You just put chips on the number where you

[2:02:15] it >> and you can pick a single number and I split numbers and you can do a whole bunch of stuff and then where the ball lands the chips >> and they they send it. You don't throw

[2:02:28] >> They throw the ball. You don't touch the ball. You just put chips on the table. >> They're all pure gambling >> in the dice one. Well, I know. >> So craps is what I played. >> Um no, I'm actually serious. Um

[2:02:43] >> all right, tell us about craps, Dan. >> Is that the dice? The dice one. Yeah. >> Is that the dice? The dice one. Yeah. >> I don't know about craps. >> Play craps. Sorry. >> If you're gambling and you know it, clap

[2:02:58] >> Now I'm poor. >> If you're gambling and you clap your >> If you're gambling and you know it, and you really want to show it. If you're horse. >> Okay. Well, um,

[2:03:13] so Crabs is strange. Uh, Crabs is a strange game. There's like two modes to Craps. Uh, you have your your you're like you're in and you're out. You have to throw the dice across the back wall and you um,

[2:03:27] can't like spin them and try to >> So, it has to hit the wall and come back. >> Table, wall, back into the table. >> And the walls have spikes on them. >> Yeah. That's

[2:03:39] >> And the dice are Oh my goodness. >> And the dice are like perfectly sharp. >> So they catch and they bounce and they're changed constantly and uh >> I didn't know it had to bounce off a

[2:03:54] thought you were literally just tossing. >> It is not a skill game. Um people say that they can do it, but I mean like sure sure. However, saying that, I can't understand why they think that

[2:04:10] opening a loot box has any variant of skill because like with craps, betting effectively is really very complicated. Um, >> Here's what the court said, and we'll see what you think of this. Okay. The

[2:04:26] court emphasized that loot boxes can't be judged in isolation but must be evaluated within the context of the game.

[2:04:41] So what? Because the game has some skill, the loot box is okay even though skill, the loot box is okay even though it's obviously gambling.

[2:04:55] Who's this from? Is this It's Australian. Austrian. Okay. I was worried this was EU. Have they Have they lost their way? No, we're still good. Uh, let's see what else. The case was brought by gamers who spent

[2:05:09] about 20,000 on packs. And while EA welcomed the decision, legal experts say it could push lawmakers to create clearer regulations since existing gambling laws weren't designed with modern game

[2:05:23] mechanics in mind. I certainly hope so because man, this has been going on a >> really has. >> Like it just doesn't it just >> well gambling's taken over the world. >> Doesn't it just seem like like this

[2:05:36] was not an EU decision. They're different things. I understand what's >> You remember how we talked earlier on the show about how like with AI, you look at it and go, "Well, this is obvious. We we just like need to fix

[2:05:50] this." And in the same way, the the microtransaction loot box gota like gambling scene is evolving so fast that I no, I I I I don't think that all the solutions are necessarily obvious. But what there are are extremely obvious

[2:06:07] steps. So we could at least be engaging in the arms race rather than just over. >> People don't seem like they want it >> Well, no. There's so much money in it. >> No, like

[2:06:23] even the people getting wrecked. >> I mean, some of them do, but there has to be like a there has to be a certain level of of reform and self-awareness >> My my problem is >> to say that this is a problem, right?

[2:06:37] >> to say that this is a problem, right? >> That I'm struggling to explain is that like, you know, democratic governments, you're supposed to enact the will of the people. I don't think the people want it changed.

[2:06:49] changed. which is a weird change, but I it feels true to me. Like, it doesn't feel like anyone cares >> Okay, so >> there's there's gambling ads everywhere.

[2:07:03] No one seems to be affected by it. >> Definitely affected. >> No one seems to There is What I meant was the creators themselves. If if you did gambling ads in 2010 on

[2:07:18] >> you would have been flayed. >> Yeah. >> If you do gambling ads now, no one cares. >> And someone's going to be like, "Oh, I care." Yeah. I'm using like exaggeration

[2:07:30] some people >> It's all relative relative to very very very small percentage of people are actually going to act on it at all. Y >> I know >> and it's it's weird and you see and the

[2:07:46] market is responding to that specifically in my opinion because places that try to have squeaky clean reputations like the NFL stayed very far

[2:07:58] and now has like >> embraced it hard. >> Yep. >> And super hard. They got tell. >> It's It's free real estate at that

[2:08:12] >> Nobody cared. >> They just They just got that money. >> They just They just got that money. >> Yep. Like it's uh Yeah. People are just down. And like I I know people that have been wrecked by it

[2:08:24] know people that have been wrecked by it and just keep going back and it is what it is. They just do sport gambling every week. Okay. I mean you like look it's not like I don't it's not like I don't understand

[2:08:36] like >> but like my my point is if lawmakers >> Yeah. I think people would be legitimately upset. The people who are being harmed by it the most are the ones that would theoretically

[2:08:52] want to fight against it but in practice would just be kind of irritated that think that >> yeah, >> you know, we've talked pretty extensively about how things are kind of

[2:09:05] extensively about how things are kind of challenging right now in general. Um, any kind of assault on people's on people's fun, what they see as the thing that they still get to do that's fun for them, I think is not going to be

[2:09:18] >> Yeah. >> I still think that as creators we could um I still think as creators there's room

[2:09:30] for us to just be responsible and and not engage with this. >> Um but I have to admit that in the early days of the like I don't really follow

[2:09:44] NFL. I don't really follow the NBA, but I I do follow the NHL a little bit. And in the early days of NHL athletes starting to take these gambling sponsorships and reporters like, you know, pushing them on it during

[2:09:59] interviews and stuff, I was like super grossed out by some of the ones that had these partnerships. And even myself as someone who has has

[2:10:11] been publicly anti-gambling for as long as I can remember having a public stance as I can remember having a public stance on it. Um I don't remember who they were anymore. I don't remember who I was grossed out

[2:10:23] by and I don't even notice anymore who is who are the ones that are sponsored is who are the ones that are sponsored by gambling and who aren't. like my my ad block has just kind of engaged and I've moved past it. Um not intentionally

[2:10:38] I've moved past it. Um not intentionally but just I was frog boiled, you know. >> Yeah. >> And that's how they get you. And so for me as someone who doesn't gamble in that sense, I mean I

[2:10:52] definitely I make bets, you know, I think that to >> honestly life is I think it's one of the reasons why it's so addictive for >> It's like such an incredibly high percentage of

[2:11:06] >> Getting up in the morning is a gamble. You might die today. gamble. >> Ordering chances. Everything's chances. >> Ordering true spec cables is a gamble.

[2:11:21] >> Ordering true spec cables is a gamble. If I if I order too many, then uh my months or even years. We've had products that we had in stock for like years, like 2 or 3 years from our original order date. And if I don't order enough,

[2:11:36] then I have people beating down my door and it's a huge lost opportunity. And so it's a it's a gamble. Everything's a Everything's a gamble. >> Not worked, >> you know. Uh,

[2:11:51] >> every fart That's very true. Meor flipping chat, >> every fart's a gamble. >> Your potential future spouse could smell it and decide not to hang out. >> No, I think they mean something else.

[2:12:04] >> Mhm. >> Okay. I thought you were trying to actually like say something. >> Talking of brown shirts already. >> It's true, though. Okay.

[2:12:16] >> I mean, yeah, that's why we don't make any white underwear on LT store. >> That's why I don't wear underwear. >> Is that actually true? >> Yeah. >> We know our users.

[2:12:30] >> We're there for you. >> Oh my god. >> Holy crap. >> I guess that's a ding. >> I guess that's a ding. >> Wow.

[2:12:46] I mean, look, think about it. From a brand standpoint, would I ever want any image to exist of an LTT underwear with a skid mark on it? >> What if they come with them? >> So, that's why you can like mask them.

[2:12:59] >> That's why we use deep color bases or black as our base fabric for all of our black as our base fabric for all of our underwear. things that I just fundamentally believe. One of the things that I

[2:13:15] believe is that the world doesn't need more plumber bum. So, anytime we make a more plumber bum. So, anytime we make a bottom, um, like I'll do like a I I'll make sure that as part of my test of the medium and then I like I check

[2:13:30] check the grading on the other sizes that we do like a gape test at the back. Like if I if I'm sitting straight, can you see my ass crack? And if you can, we

[2:13:43] be wearing underwear in these situations. That is our underwear which is designed not to show ass crack. Right. So no one's actually looking at >> Not that technically employees haven't done that before.

[2:13:57] What are you talking about? >> Dennis had to edit some footage. >> No, he didn't have. So what he did was he blurred the whole frame and then slowly unblurred so he didn't have to look at anything.

[2:14:10] Anyway, and that wasn't my butt. That was much worse. So, so that so that's one of the things that >> No, he's like, "Do I really have to write this down?"

[2:14:23] >> Yeah, I think so. >> I think so. So, I believe that the world needs less plumber bum, not more of it. And then the other one of the other things that I believe is that the world needs less skid marks, not more of them.

[2:14:36] So our underwear are and and look if you if you drop an entire load like you know like you're sitting in the oval office or something then that's one thing like there's no amount of protection that any color of underwear can give you from

[2:14:51] that. But you know if it's if it's you know you know a wet one you know for instance then for the most part you should be able to you should be able to That's the goal. it at least shouldn't be immediately noticeable.

[2:15:13] meeting, um I had a chat with Ashley. She's one of our members of our wonderful design team and we've been working on this. She just had this cute drawing of a parrot on the wall next to her desk. And I was like, "Is that like

[2:15:28] a design for something we're doing?" And she was like, "No, not really. It's just kind of like, well, maybe, you know, it kind of. And I was like, okay, sure. But like, it's adorable. Like, should we do something with that? And she's like,

[2:15:41] yeah, I guess so. So, she put together a couple mock-ups for me. And I think this is something that's going to resonate in a big way with our community. And Dan, can you go ahead? Luke is going to be the final call.

[2:15:56] But it's a it's an if buying isn't owning shirt. Which one do you like better? I gave her your feedback about the anatomy of bird wings because we were trying to go for kind of a shrug. Um,

[2:16:16] up now and I'll let Luke kind of talk through through his preferences and then we'll let you guys we'll let you guys vote in float plane chat. >> About 2 minutes for poll work. >> Yeah, one minute is fine. I I think

[2:16:29] they're super cute. I think uh Ashley did a great job with the design and I'll you like better. >> Don't worry too much about the shirt color for now.

[2:16:43] >> cuz it might go on a different color shirt. We're looking at the design. >> Okay. So chat's so far going with >> What? Don't just pick based on chat. No, I can I can talk about my reasoning too to explain it, but chat is going with

[2:16:56] which is the top one. >> Um, >> my whole thing was that the the like shoulder joint on a bird is kind of working on that. There's about to get into bird anatomy here.

[2:17:12] >> So, like on here, it kind of looks like it comes all the way over, but that's a >> That's not like where it connects >> to the main body of the bird. That's like their elbow basically. >> Um like up here where my where the

[2:17:26] >> So when you see here >> like it's it's way back. >> like it's it's way back. >> Like if I look at uh birds flying and you look at the the body like the body of the bird is way down. It's it's

[2:17:41] >> Mhm. >> It's and and like not quite but it like like it's at the back of the body, not like here. So, uh, >> So, to me, the bottom one and like I don't I'm not very cute bird. I'm not

[2:17:57] trying to I fully understand I'm being super annoying and lame. I just want to put that out there. Okay. This is not No. Yeah. >> But it looks more like it's coming out of like the middle of the bird.

[2:18:13] >> Yeah. Yeah. I see what you mean. So it to my brain just as like a weird bird spot. >> So then I want to go with the top one

[2:18:25] because now it doesn't really I mean it still sort of does, as much. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> But yeah, bird bird wing thing when it's

[2:18:37] folded in it kind of, you know, arm they're they're like this. >> All right. float plane agrees with you and 71% say the top design. So I will let her know on Monday. >> Yeah. Also the bottom one doesn't I I

[2:18:52] them do. I don't know how the heck you would draw a bird shrugging. So like >> This is not a criticism. I have literally no idea how you would do that. would >> they would just move even farther

[2:19:07] to >> I'm going to throw this for a little loop. She did have a one-armed shrug, but I didn't even show it to you because I didn't think it would work for you. Yeah, she she really tried. A bird

[2:19:19] >> probably impossible. >> I mean, I'm sure Iago does it at some point in Aladdin, but it this is a really different drawing style. talking about. Like, look at where that's connecting on this bird's body.

[2:19:34] >> Yeah. Yeah, I see what you mean. Uh, so then but but gi given the insane task of trying to draw a bird shrugging, like I don't I didn't really have a lot of heck you could could do. >> Oh man. Um,

[2:19:47] >> guys, relax. Avon says, "The aliasing on the letter sucks, guys. It's a team's message sent to me that I that I snipping toolled and then teamed to Dan >> and then I also snipping toolled it and then and then put it into like it's so

[2:20:03] many layers." Yeah. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. >> birds are cute. >> Yeah. Uh, what what do you think of the >> What was it? >> If buying isn't owning dot dot dot.

[2:20:19] >> Yeah. I mean, I like that. That seems pretty good. >> All right, cool. >> Uh, is is the 7th Monday? No. Why would

[2:20:31] Why would Teams default to a Saturday for a scheduled message? man? >> Yeah, it should do nothing. Good idea. >> sounds like they're a product ROM already.

[2:20:46] >> Hey, you want a fix to something that's do and is like a precedent set by everyone and would be definitely better Nope. We're not going to do that. >> Cool. We will do it but in a different

[2:21:00] way that is objectively worse and no one likes. Nice. >> Nice. Solid. Um >> why teams? Cuz it's cheap and it's to get anyways, which is why basically everyone has teams.

[2:21:13] >> Autonomous cars are getting prompt injected by road signs. Researchers at UC Santa Cruz and John's Hopkins have shown that self-driving Hopkins have shown that self-driving cars and autonomous drones will just

[2:21:28] follow instructions that are written on physical signs that are held up in front of their cameras. It's prompt injection, but in the real world instead of a chat box. In simulated tests, they got an 81.8% 8%

[2:21:43] success rate, tricking a self-driving car running GPT40 car running GPT40 into ignoring pedestrians in a crosswalk just by placing a sign with a command in its camera view. They also tricked

[2:21:58] drones that were programmed to follow police cars into following a different vehicle by putting police Santa Cruz on the roof of a random car. The AI fell for that one up to 95.5%

[2:22:13] of the time. Drones programmed to find safe landing spots would land on debriscovered rooftops if a sign reading safe to land rooftops if a sign reading safe to land was placed nearby.

[2:22:27] >> Oh, thanks man. Yeah, >> real world physical tests of this worked too, not just simulations. They put signs on the floor and on RC cars around signs on the floor and on RC cars around a university building and got up to 92%

[2:22:41] success, hijacking GPT40's decisionmaking. The attacks worked in multiple languages, English, Chinese, Spanish, and even Spanglish. Green backgrounds with yellow text were the most effective. The researchers

[2:22:55] called the method really chai, command hijacking against embodied AI. They found the wording of the prompt mattered most, but font color and sign placement also affected success rates. This is basically the same prompt

[2:23:10] injection problem we've seen with AI reading malicious web pages or PDFs, environment where the consequences could be people getting run over. be people getting run over. Cool.

[2:23:26] All of them. You have to break every single egg. And the eggs are us. >> How would I become a trillion dollar company if a few people didn't get run >> That's how that works. That's how that

[2:23:40] works. >> Firefox introduces AI kill switch. Firefox comes through with a block AI enhancements toggle that nukes all current and future AI features from your browser. This is coming February 24th

[2:23:53] browser. This is coming February 24th with Firefox 148. >> Nice. >> That was all we had to say about that. Seems neat. This one's fun. >> Audio files can't differentiate between

[2:24:07] audio signals sent through copper, through a banana, or through mud in a through a banana, or through mud in a blind test. Pano, a member of the DIY audio forum, conducted an experiment where listeners were asked to identify

[2:24:20] audio signals sent through wire, mud, and even a banana. and most guest list and even a banana. and most guest list landed near random which suggests that landed near random which suggests that no reliable difference exists in the

[2:24:32] audio at line level. The experiment challenges the idea that tiny cable differences dramatically impact sound quality, especially when expectations and branding are removed from the equation.

[2:24:45] affect you? >> Uh, do you know what I use for speaker cable at home for analog speakers? phone hanger. mid80s. >> Nice. Solid.

[2:24:57] >> I think the conductors are smaller than a pencil lead. Uh, it sounds fine. Um, the cables that I make here using Moami Gold dual twisted pair um are shielded.

[2:25:09] They have a synthetic pull cord in the center of them and they are designed for are twisted and unplugged and replugged in 700 times a day and get thrown around >> okay, >> they are shielded from interference

[2:25:24] and durable. >> Durable and they are good forever. They're not cuz they sound better. Thanks, Dan. Thank you for that sanity Thanks, Dan. Thank you for that sanity that was injected into um a place that

[2:25:38] cable space. >> I kind of want uh hear from me on Monday. >> Big cable. Got him. >> Dan is not suicidal.

[2:25:50] >> Um material can still affect audio in highowered setups over very long runs or in interferenceheavy environments. But >> how much mud? But for typical listening,

[2:26:03] the differences may be far smaller than marketing would suggest. A good example unshielded instrument cables, you can sometimes hear AM radio signals through your speakers if you have a bad ground. So to be clear, and this is coming from

[2:26:17] someone who literally launched a cable product last week, there is a time and a place for a high quality cable. But we just need to drop the horseshit

[2:26:30] around it and focus on the things that actually matter with a higher quality >> or use that to transmit the audio. >> You could use a USB cable to carry audio >> Sorry, what? >> The the horse.

[2:26:44] >> Not horse. >> Yeah, the one after that. >> I mean, I might I might bleep >> but not horse. >> You don't think so? >> I don't think so. I mean, I guess the

[2:26:56] >> And you you didn't do it either. >> Yeah. You didn't do it either. >> Yeah. >> I'm surprised you didn't take that home. >> Solid. >> I think this one is maybe for the show.

[2:27:10] >> I was very certain you were going to snag one of those. way. >> They're awesome. my desk. It's Yeah, >> that actually makes a ton of sense.

[2:27:23] >> Yep. So yeah, float plane exclusive colorway of the LT precision pro colorway of the LT precision pro screwdriver set. Pretty cool. It we even redid the mold for the cover. That's not the mold, but that's cool,

[2:27:38] >> The black plastic cover. >> Yeah. Oh, wait. Did we seriously not >> Yeah. Oh, wait. Did we seriously not show that? Oh my god. Okay. Well, it doesn't even matter that much, but sure, Luke Luke can show it. Uh anywh

[2:27:53] who in the meantime why don't we uh check out if there's any other topics. check out if there's any other topics. Oh Valve Steam Machine has been delayed but not delayed. Oh, here you go. Loot cam. There you go. It has a float plane

[2:28:06] cam. There you go. It has a float plane logo instead of an LT logo now. So Valve never actually said that they were going to launch the Steam Machine on a specific day at a specific price. They were intentionally vague and ky

[2:28:19] about that. Uh, but that is not going to stop people from saying the Steam Machine has been delayed. And they're all kind of sort of right. Valve has pushed back the early 2026 launch window for the Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and

[2:28:31] Steam Controller due to the ongoing RAM and storage shortages across the industry. Rising memory costs have forced Valve to revisit both shipping timelines and pricing, especially as RAM prices have reportedly tripled or even

[2:28:45] quadrupled amid AI server demand. Valve says it still aims to ship the hardware in the first half of the year, but won't announce firm dates or prices until supply conditions stabilize, which Lord only knows when that is going to happen.

[2:28:58] Can I take a moment to completely change topics now and say how much I think it topics now and say how much I think it sucks that modern server hardware is so unusable after its end of life. Like there was

[2:29:14] kind of a golden moment there when old server motherboards and CPUs and RAM server motherboards and CPUs and RAM were perfectly chromulent gaming setups that you could run normal consumer hardware on and normal consumer

[2:29:28] operating systems. And when they were a few years old, you could totally still get your hands on enough stuff to to to run these computers in a in a home environment. and you could often get them for really really affordably.

[2:29:43] Whereas now, much like what we've seen with mobile devices, with mobile devices, servers are so tightly integrated that even if you even if you got your hands on some 192 core epics a few years from

[2:30:00] center is going, "Oh, these are consuming too much power to even bother running them." Right? when back when you used to be able to get old server CPUs for pennies on the dollar, what motherboard would you put them in? There

[2:30:13] motherboard would you put them in? There are some, but the thing is when a CPU is EOL, so is the motherboard. And since the vast vast majority of the boards that these are going into are going to be bespoke near or nearly bespoke

[2:30:29] be bespoke near or nearly bespoke designs for like blade or or or super designs for like blade or or or super thin liquid cooled like one or two UU machines. There's going to be no boards to put

[2:30:41] these CPUs. We're going to have all this ECC DDR5 memory and it's just going to be like garbage because nobody would use it for what it was originally used for anymore because it's just not even worth powering up at

[2:30:56] that point. It's not worth powering up and cooling and you can't use it for about this the other day and Corey G stuff. I know that's exactly what I'm saying, but it used to be that you could

[2:31:09] pick up some old Opterons and have like a cheap quad core setup at home, or you could pick up an old Xeon and you'd find like like Chinese sellers on AliExpress that were cutting the chipsets off of old motherboards and remanufacturing

[2:31:23] boards to put them in. But you might have noticed that that practice never have noticed that that practice never really moved beyond that generation of so much more locked down now. and it blows.

[2:31:36] >> Yeah, it's no fun. I had some hope that that kind of stuff would get cracked open because just the sheer volume of stuff that the enterprise is buying right now would eventually hit the market and there might be like hardware

[2:31:49] hacker homebrew type stuff to try to get it working. Um, but I'm losing that hope a little bit as things seem to be going the like Google bespoke hardware route. Um, and we're never seeing any of that. So

[2:32:04] yeah, >> I mean we could we could hold up maybe a little bit of hope. I mean Epic is an SOC. SOC. So Epic in particular, it is possible

[2:32:16] there will be like just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these Epic chips that >> maybe that are on motherboards that use >> maybe that are on motherboards that use like custom, you know, uh

[2:32:34] get power to them and stuff that you can't just like power with an ATX power supply that that they'll that someone will start manufacturing from these things and then manufacturing you know more modular desktop boards for

[2:32:49] them or something like that. But like if you go on AliExpress, I don't think I you go on AliExpress, I don't think I don't think past X299,

[2:33:01] Um, or was it or was it X99? Was X99 the end of this? These like remanufactured boards from like machinist and stuff like that? I >> I'm not sure. Like you can still get these and these

[2:33:15] were a great bang for the buck back in the day, but now they're they're a a Zeon V4 is pretty freaking old now. That's what like Haswell. Zeon V4. I

[2:33:27] think that's Haswell. Yeah. Yikes. Oh, no. V3 is Haswell apparently. >> Ms. said new CPU spinners is what I'm

[2:33:41] H that was >> cut off your fingers. >> Sad. >> Yeah, that too. to make sure it's Haswell. Someone in chat want to let me know. No, V4 is

[2:33:54] Broadwell cuz it existed for like 3 weeks on the desktop. Do you remember the the 5775C? >> I don't think so. >> I don't think so. >> Yeah, it was a weird chip. I uh did last

[2:34:07] >> Yeah, it was a weird chip. I uh did last did LTT ever do a video. >> Yeah, remember this thing? It was a trippy chip. >> Yeah, maybe I do. >> Yeah, it was it had this like giant

[2:34:22] cache. >> Yeah. And then um it it was the it was >> Yeah. And then um it it was the it was technically the like 770K technically the like 770K of that generation was the the 5775C

[2:34:34] was like the the K >> like the worst naming you could ever do. I think it was like seriously less than 2 months that it was the flagship nextG chip and then it was replaced by the 6700 K that went on to be, you know,

[2:34:51] 6700 K that went on to be, you know, king of the 14 nanometer plus plus+ plus until new ones came. >> Um, yeah. Yeah. People are like, "Whoa." Noki's like, "Whoa, it had 128 megs of level four cache." Like, yeah, it was a

[2:35:05] level four cache." Like, yeah, it was a it was a pretty cool chip. And as far as I can tell, they sold like tens of them. Like, I don't I don't know what was up they even bothered to bring it to market after it was so late.

[2:35:20] >> No, I don't think so. >> Okay. Spain banned social media for kids under 16, and Elon is somewhat indelicate about it. I have no idea what that means. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez announced Spain will ban social

[2:35:34] media access for users under 16, calling social media a failed state where laws social media a failed state where laws are ignored and crime crime is endured. I like it. Intense. The regulations go beyond just an age ban. Social media

[2:35:49] companies will be required to implement effective age verification systems. A checkboxes. Algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content will

[2:36:04] >> this I like this is pretty based. >> Tech CEOs will face criminal liability for well algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content. I

[2:36:16] be illegal. I was going to say content of illegal things gets really fuzzy, but >> so it's the amplification of illegal content. reporter, >> how would they even fix this?

[2:36:30] Go back to just the people you follow are the people that you see content from. Whoa, that would be crazy. Hey, can you imagine if Facebook was just >> Really? >> Yeah.

[2:36:42] >> I think it'd be fun >> if you just like followed, you know, >> if every single in my feed were just people that I knew that I followed, I would use Facebook again. Okay, here's a crazy pitch.

[2:36:57] >> Floatbook. >> Will it be >> I knew exactly where he's going. >> Will it be chronological? I loved Facebook. I loved all of these platforms until they got rid of the chronological.

[2:37:10] spam and I find it annoying, I'll just unfriend them. >> Just go punch them in the face. Says yes. Chad says yes. Gilmore says, "I would join." >> The worst part is probably not that

[2:37:26] >> Yeah, do it. >> With like the open source stuff for like is like basically just Twitter, which is how they all built all their things. It only the people you follow. It probably wouldn't be that hard. I just really

[2:37:39] it. There's no money in it. I'm not interested. interested. >> It's not There's no future there. >> That's fine. I have better ideas anyway. Okay, good. Um,

[2:37:52] >> Actually, you know what? Maybe this is something that exists already. I I I'll and then I'll talk about the thing that I want. >> Sure. Um, tech CEOs will face criminal liability for hateful or or illegal

[2:38:08] content on their platforms. Oh. Uh, Sanchez cited specific examples. Ex's Grock AI generating sexualized images of children. Meta spying on Android users and election interference campaigns on

[2:38:23] Facebook. Spain has formed a co fair. Uh Spain has formed a coalition with five other unnamed European nations to enact stricter stricter social media governance together. This follows Australia's under 16 ban enacted last

[2:38:39] year. The UK is actively considering a similar ban and that Denmark and Malaysia have announced plans to do the same. It's becoming a global trend, which is great. No specific enforcement timeline has been announced yet, so the

[2:38:51] details of how this actually works in practice are still unclear. banning kids from social media actually protect them or does it just push them protect them or does it just push them to find workarounds? Can I Okay, maybe

[2:39:04] this will be my chance for a hot take. Can I say I consider it positive either way? >> Yeah. No, I completely agree. If if it protects them, then great. >> No.

[2:39:18] >> If it doesn't protect them and they like become more technically competent, uh I think it better arms them for an increasingly digital world. >> yeah. No, I think it's good either way. Matt from the labs web team in full

[2:39:32] Trello for Monday." >> Sick. Uh little does Matt know that we >> don't tell Lionus. >> You don't know the things that happen at >> I thought my mic. I thought we were

[2:39:46] >> It's not a paid >> thing, I think, or something. I don't Trello anymore. >> It's uh there are different task >> Oh, for crying out loud. >> The Air Table switch was for LMG as a

[2:40:00] >> I'm over it. Lus, it's okay. >> That's why Air Table is a is a like a nuclear bomb. I'm over it. And Trello is a scalpel for like a few people. ourselves to everyone. >> Demo's here, too. Demo doesn't have a

[2:40:14] >> Does it play out? >> I'm over it. >> No. I have a I have a way better idea anyway. Um, so maybe this exists. I hope

[2:40:26] it exists, but I want it to be pretty much exactly like what I'm saying because I I Well, no, it might exist already. You might have opinions and not what you said. It's just it's >> No, that's not what I said at all.

[2:40:40] perfect like Linus. >> No, no, no. It's Listen, >> that's what you were saying. >> Okay. So, I

[2:40:52] >> No, >> you're fine. >> No, it's I'm sure it's a great idea. >> We all We all want to hear your idea. I literally don't care if it's a great idea. It's just something that I want.

[2:41:05] idea. It's just something that I want. >> The whole class wants to hear your idea. >> We'll all We'll all sit and be quiet. >> You don't have to be quiet. You just >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I take a lot of pictures,

[2:41:21] >> What? >> No, you just told me I can't laugh, and that immediately made it incredibly hard not to laugh. That's literally a trick >> I know. >> Okay, don't laugh. I'm going to take the

[2:41:34] >> I know. I never grew up. >> Are you thinking about smiling? Because not the thing to do right now because I'm taking a serious picture. >> I know. Oh god.

[2:41:47] Oh god. Would work on me, too. >> Okay. Sorry. My mom's trick was always that she would just completely have her composure nailed down and she'd go, "All right, everybody ready? Okay, everybody

[2:42:02] serious? Okay, pee pe poo poo bum bum fart." And it just it didn't matter. fart." And it just it didn't matter. Kids, adults, didn't matter. Always worked. >> That's pretty funny. That's pretty good.

[2:42:18] Nobody. It's I don't understand what it cuz it only takes one person to break. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You take a lot of pictures. >> Yeah. Okay. I take a lot of pictures, but

[2:42:30] but I don't I don't necessarily remember like the context and I I don't necessarily have like the like anything associated with it that helps me with the memory or that makes it more fun to

[2:42:47] share with someone. And and already that's a format that totally exists. You take a picture and then you tapity tappity type a thing and then you like you like share it. But what I want is pretty much that except I don't share

[2:43:01] it. So, I want a more sophisticated metadata mechanism where basically I take a picture and immediately a voice

[2:43:14] recording prompt comes up, a voice to text and I go, you know, this was so funny because 2 minutes before I took this, you said this and this and this

[2:43:26] and it was hilarious or whatever. >> You could get crazy funding for this. how >> photography, you know, like it's basically like a it's like a diary uh but in photography form. And it's really

[2:43:40] meant for my own consumption. It's an alternative. It's like a digital version of what a scrapbook would be for someone who's way too lazy to scrapbook cuz >> so it's like what what Google's doing with Google Photos with their memories

[2:43:55] thing but manual and therefore much more accurate. manual and therefore much more accurate. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then and then obviously there would be times that I would want to share it with someone. So I could see

[2:44:08] having like shared >> shared albums or like shared shared >> and so having the ability to see just my own or things that are shared with me by specific people or everything that's

[2:44:23] mine plus what everyone shared with me but nothing algorithmic. >> Floatgoat and float plane chat apparently we have that user now. >> Um said that hopefully it would be self-hosted app. Yeah. The problem is if

[2:44:36] why I said I know you could get a bunch of funding for it, is it would be AI scraping all of your notes and then doing stuff with it, including helping

[2:44:48] you search through it and find things. Um, but also probably selling your data and doing other stuff like that. >> So, yeah. I I don't know. Like, does that >> We're not making that.

[2:45:02] >> Yeah. But like, dude, but I want it. Like, just like take a picture? Like, I don't I I I'll be honest. >> It might be actually >> I'd never heard of Bad Bunny until he

[2:45:17] co-hosted the Tonight Show while I was a guest, >> but I did hear of him at that time and so I like researched him a little bit so that I would know who he was when he was sitting there across the desk. and the

[2:45:29] album that he was promoting last year uh during the appearance uh or sorry last last year 2024 uh or five uh last year damn um was I something like that was what it roughly

[2:45:44] actually really stuck with me because I've thought many times about how I'm always on video but I never take any pictures I have but I never take any pictures I have almost no digital record of what things

[2:45:59] were like behind the scenes at the Langley house, for instance. Do you remember that time that we emptied out the garage in order to build sets or >> Wars. >> No, no, no. At my house.

[2:46:12] >> that I emptied out the garage to build sets and took all of the like parts and tables and and everything out of the garage and stacked it up into the living >> Oh, yes. My living room was piled so high with tech crap and cameras and

[2:46:28] tripods and tables that like I couldn't navigate it. It was like up to here. >> It was nuts. Yeah. >> I didn't take a picture of it. I just that we were doing of >> taking some little videos and pictures

[2:46:41] >> Not an amazing one, but >> how cool would it have been if I just had like snap picture? We had to pile everything out of the garage into the living room and we can barely stand in here. Boop. And then

[2:46:55] that was just part of the metadata of that photo along with where it was was taken with all the metadata that already exists. And um I had a really bad experience with Canon Zoom browser way back in the day because I actually

[2:47:09] did something like this. I used to maintain every picture I took on my old blurb about who it was and where I was and what was happening. And what I realized one day when I reformatted my

[2:47:22] was that that metadata existed within Zoom browser, which was Canon's proprietary first party photo sorting app. It was actually pretty cool except that it wasn't injecting that metadata into the files

[2:47:37] injecting that metadata into the files themselves and I lost all of it. Um, and ever since Zoom browser, I've wanted a way to way to reproduce what I did arduously manually

[2:47:50] with Zoom browser, but just more conveniently with my >> People are saying image. This is that thing that I brought up on screen. that. >> Like it's what you're describing. Yeah.

[2:48:03] because a >> little bit confused about the image much about this. I'm discovering it today. But clo clicking through it, it doesn't seem like it works like this at all.

[2:48:16] >> Yeah. >> Uh but self-hosted. >> It seems awesome, but just not what Lionus is describing. >> And Tag Studio seems like kind of a cool thing, but really what I'm after is not

[2:48:30] a separate thing I have to install and and like like upkeep. I want something that as I'm going I just yak yak yak yak yak picture and now it's it's logged

[2:48:42] >> I'm gonna riff off something that full chat brought up. Having vibe coded an app. Do you feel like it would be real? Now Do you feel like it would be real? Now you're an incredibly busy person.

[2:48:56] If you were say if you had an hour every day to work on this, do you feel like you would

[2:49:10] however you want to define that. >> I feel like we used to I feel like the our relationship with photographs used to be different. >> Mhm. >> Um we used to take fewer of them. We

[2:49:25] were more intentful about them because every photograph cost money. >> and every time we look at them, we'd laugh >> and I find I take I Okay, so I said I don't

[2:49:38] >> I thought it was good. >> You're wonderful. Um, >> but I do I do take more than I used to, but I look at them less.

[2:49:52] because I actually really like the Google Photos memories feature. >> I like will actually click on it and actually skip through them. I've turned off my notifications for Google Photos, so maybe I just don't get those.

[2:50:05] >> Yeah. >> Like I'll constantly get like old CES trips. I think it knows that I really like the >> That makes sense. That checks out >> honestly. Probably usually when I take

[2:50:19] one. >> Yeah. So, like I wonder if I even have >> Yeah. So, like I wonder if I even have any notifications right now. Um, difficult. You're not asking for a difficult thing. I mean, I think where

[2:50:34] things could get more >> memory for you, click on it, >> play some music >> music and and then you you click on it, >> Yeah, my in-laws will send me these every once in a while. Uh, like of my

[2:50:47] kids in their in their Google photo things. Um, sorry, Bud was uh saying something and sorry, Bud was uh saying something and then I I lost it. Um,

[2:51:05] whatever the Android equivalent is? I mean, honestly, you know, I'm the basicstitch there is when it comes to when it comes to photos. Um, I'm just for me, it's more about, hey, remember that? that was cool when we were all

[2:51:18] there and we did that thing and and we enjoyed it and and shared a memory, much we lose. I was talking to especially kids like I was talking to my kids about something and you know, one of them completely didn't remember a

[2:51:33] place we've gone multiple times as a family. Another one didn't remember living in our old house, which is like Yeah. I mean, when you were 10, how much did you remember from when you were six or seven? Probably very little.

[2:51:47] that's a third of your life. And it like does work like that. Like she remembered that we did it, but she didn't like >> Yeah. >> Okay.

[2:52:02] >> Very well. Like her her life is in this new place. >> Wild. >> Okay. Okay. Fair enough. I was going to be like, "Dude, that's crazy. That's >> No, no, no. But my kid's not dumb. She's

[2:52:15] >> Well, I don't remember what my memory was like when I was 10. Yeah. >> So, like I don't know. Um and there are massive voids for me now from back then. >> Oh, 100%. >> So, like I I'm not sure.

[2:52:33] >> Yeah. It's like And it's weird like the little things you'll remember like I uh like I remember this one time that I ate like nearly an entire box of Honey Nut >> Yeah. There's all these, >> you know, like like there's you'll have

[2:52:45] remember >> why can I listen to a Blink song that I genuinely haven't heard >> off some like weird esoteric Blink album lyrics immediately. >> Music's a funny one though. Music does

[2:52:59] just >> work magic on our brains. Yeah. In in ways that other things don't. I have there was one trip I went on when I was there was one trip I went on when I was very little, like like two or something,

[2:53:11] very little, like like two or something, and my mom had a water bed and a yellow washing machine. And for some reason, drilled into my brain is water bread, water bed, and yellow washing machine. And the water

[2:53:26] >> Mhm. >> And like I we had this I had a conversation with my dad like not even that long ago. And I mentioned those two things and he was like, "What?" Like barely even remembered. I was like

[2:53:40] alive when those things existed cuz I was like so little and for some reason >> I just know of those things. >> Like I have no idea why I remembered >> I remember the sound of my dad's water, but I don't remember what it looked

[2:53:54] >> Sure. Yeah. Like what? Yep. >> So random. >> What happened to water beds anyway? >> I don't know. >> Can you buy a water bed still? Uh,

[2:54:06] >> popular in the 70s and 80s, offering unique pressure relief and blah blah blah. Water bed. Can you like can you can you can you can you buy a water bed regulation. >> Wayfair

[2:54:23] semi-waveless water bed mattress. Like am I is this a thing? king-sized water bed with my wife. Mind paradox.

[2:54:38] >> Okay. Color ivory. Yeah, I think I think this is a water bed. Wow. Complete upholstered woodframe water bed. Premium strobble hydro support 1600

[2:54:54] bed. Premium strobble hydro support 1600 in semi-waveless water bed mattress. Upholstered frame. Blah blah blah. Go figure. They're heated, right? I mean, they'd have to be, otherwise you'd be so cold.

[2:55:09] Ladder type single. Can they tell that from a urine sample?

[2:55:23] active or not. >> I mean, probably. >> I think maybe. >> I Yeah, I'd think so. Anyways, uh any other topics? >> Uh I don't know. Maybe. Oh, we should

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[2:57:37] purchase by visiting squarespace.com/wan. >> Oh, nothing. Like genuinely nothing. >> Overwatch 2 is now Overwatch.

[2:57:53] different game from the first one, including special hero missions, a new PvE story, tech trees, and more? Well, I guess it still is, but now it's just Overwatch. >> Okay.

[2:58:08] right? >> Yeah. Well, we remember Well, yeah. again. What about second rename? >> Yeah, man. What a bag fumble.

[2:58:21] >> A bag fumble. Okay. Yes. >> Just Overwatch. Like it was such it was >> Just Overwatch. Like it was such it was such a huge thing and then it feels like >> I'm sorry. Did the PvE die? Oh, okay. Apparently the PVE never came. That's

[2:58:35] they never did any of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. I uh I I'm not a big Overwatch >> I thought Overwatch 2 had been officially flagged as no more like a

[2:58:48] long time ago. >> I just I remember the joke being back was the whole thing was stupid because it was obviously a live service game calling it' be like calling Fortnite Fortnite 2 arbitrarily one day?

[2:59:02] >> Okay. Okay, cool. And then that ended up being even more true than we thought and >> Oh, okay. I was actually really excited about the PVE. I thought it'd be fun. >> That's cool. >> Because again, the TE the PVE had

[2:59:17] it sounded like the way it was described, it sounded actually like >> And then Blizzard again was like, "Nah." >> What does Blizzard do that's good right >> What does Blizzard do that's good right now? People like Diablo still, right?

[2:59:30] than Diablo if you're in that style of a game. >> Okay. Oh. Oh. >> Path of Exile. >> Chad says nothing. >> Yeah, I I think they're just mostly

[2:59:44] >> Literally nothing. Like how? >> Well, no. Uh >> Diablo Immortal. No, Wow is declining. I'm pretty sure. >> It's like got to be >> uh WoW subscriber

[2:59:59] count. >> I don't know if they publish it anymore. >> Wow. Quietly revealed a 9 million subscriber number. Oh, >> estimates not actually confirmed by Blizzard according to ZGO Rim.

[3:00:13] >> On r/PC Gaming. >> Well, Classic is getting kind of big. How does that make would it not have peaked a long time ago?

[3:00:26] I don't know if that's Is it getting bigger? Is there are there any numbers bigger? Is there are there any numbers on that? How does anyone know anything? on that? How does anyone know anything? Retail is still good.

[3:00:41] Anything else? Bookhorse says Blizzard's just a zombie as far as I know. Yeah, I know. They stopped reporting subscribers a long time ago. Apparently, they peaked at 12 million according to an AI summary. Um, back

[3:00:55] >> like 2007 >> 2010 I think was when it said they >> Okay, sure. That might be more accurate. I think 2007 was TBC. I mean, they definitely still have millions of monthly paying

[3:01:08] subscribers, so it's not like >> Yeah, but you're I don't feel like it's anyone's excited about, >> especially if we're looking at retail. like >> a really exciting thing for people

[3:01:22] already play retail already? >> Oh, yikes. Stickler says that 12 million number was also a lie because it included pay by the hour PC cafes, which counted a single hour as a subscriber. Whoops. No, he says, "Remember when

[3:01:37] What happened to Hearthstone? >> Hearstone is fantastic. Uh properties. Like as far as my understanding goes, it's fine, but they're in that like holding pattern of like they're not really necessarily

[3:01:52] getting a ton of new users. So now they're they're catering to long-term hardcore experienced players. So they're putting more and more heavily mechanically advanced cards and systems into the game. in a really really deep

[3:02:05] stuff like that, which is cool if you've been into it forever and is daunting if you're a new player. Um, but they're knowing the people that they're aiming for now. Like, it's not even necessarily a bad strategy, but it's

[3:02:26] was Overwatch. They were kind of on a bit of a tear there for a while. Heroes bit of a tear there for a while. Heroes of the Storm, Hearthstone, Overwatch, >> I mean, and for all the hate that they're getting for

[3:02:38] >> Diablo Immortal >> Diablo Immortal, it's not like a lot >> really >> smoked. Um, that? Uh,

[3:02:53] Blizzard's own launcher, right? So, I can't just look at Steam stats or can't just look at Steam stats or anything. publish this? Uh >> people are saying some pretty high

[3:03:07] >> people are saying some pretty high numbers. That's why you don't know about it. >> Oh well. I mean I don't have a phone so

[3:03:23] yeah. This is a this is actually this is actually a great this is actually a great Reddit post. I played it for about guild and was chatting with a few of my new guild mates. Asked them if they were

[3:03:36] pumped about Diablo IV coming out and if they were going to play it. Zero out of three had any idea that Diablo I was coming out in 2 months or had any means of playing it. Both of those two players were pay to win.

[3:03:49] Mobile gamers are so different from other types of gamers. You and I talking on the Diablo I subreddit, like you got to zoom out every once in a while and realize we are talking about completely different people doing

[3:04:02] absolutely no idea what exists outside of their mobile gaming bundle. Bumble bubble bubble.

[3:04:14] >> Wild. Okay, imagine playing Diablo Immortal and not knowing that Diablo I 4 is coming. It is hard >> for me to wrap my brain around that.

[3:04:33] that I'm a little frustrated about what went on with the 9850 X3D. So, we had our video on it where we concluded that it ran faster and didn't consume a ton it ran faster and didn't consume a ton more power than the 9800 X3D, which led

[3:04:48] us to conclude that it AMD wasn't really like juicing this thing super hard in it. It looks like we might have just gotten a really good chip. And in the gotten a really good chip. And in the age of clock speeds up to as opposed to

[3:05:02] here's how fast it runs and here's the voltage and here's the power consumption. This is something that is only going to become more of a problem rather than less of a problem. It used to be that people would there were

[3:05:16] conspiracy theories that Intel and AMD and Nvidia they would they would provide golden chips to reviewers and then the real product wouldn't perform as well. And that was always kind of dismissed as as conspiracy theory nonsense because it

[3:05:29] was but now whether it's intentional or not that is something that can not that is something that can absolutely happen. So user Sugio Lover published 17 results of their bind Ryzen 7 9850 X3D

[3:05:42] >> 13. >> Yeah 13, excuse me. uh confirming that this chip is virtually an overclocked 9800 X3D just using higher voltages to achieve the chip's 400 MHz higher boost clock. When cross referenced to Hardware

[3:05:55] Lux's results on the 9800 X3D, it shows the large difference in core voltage between the two. Out of the 9800 X3Ds published, the slowest chip hit a single core boost clock of 5.611 GHz while the most using the most voltage of 1.348

[3:06:12] volts. Uh, going back to the 9850 XD, almost all the chips hit a similar clock speed while hovering around 1.31. So, are they a little better? It seems like yes. Um, but not by as much as we might like to

[3:06:29] call it a new product. When we compare the best 9850X3Ds to the 9800 X3D, the the best 9850X3Ds to the 9800 X3D, the 9800 X3D uses about 13% more voltage, which to be clear for these kinds of microprocessors, 13% more voltage is

[3:06:44] that's a lot more voltage. >> Um, but it is worth noting that Tom's hardware found that their 9850 X3D consumed about 30% more power for only a 3% average performance improvement over their 9800 X3D. So basically what we're

[3:07:00] seeing is there's a lot of overlap between the worst 9850 X3Ds and the best 9800 X3Ds once you start to play around with power profiles and voltages. And I'm a little frustrated that we've reached the point where in order to

[3:07:15] review a CPU, it almost feels like you have to have five of them sourced from five different places as opposed to just testing one and being able to report the performance that you get. Um,

[3:07:29] that's all. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I'm just a little I'm just a one of those things where, as you guys might imagine, I have a little bit of sensitivity around us, you know, publishing

[3:07:43] data in our videos. >> Do you think you'd have to potentially go multi-country? >> I don't I don't actually think you'd have to do that, but I do think there could be some value.

[3:07:55] I was going to say to different batches, but even then I don't I don't even think >> that's why I said different batches. You I feel like your chance of different multicountry. >> I just don't I I think batches used to

[3:08:09] probably be more of a thing than they are today. Um, I remember chatting with the the folks at Intel when I did the fab tour there and um I I'm not going to

[3:08:25] fab tour there and um I I'm not going to disclose any numbers or anything, but there is a possibility of having a perfect wafer, it turns out. Um, and perfect wafer, it turns out. Um, and what they told me about that led me to

[3:08:40] believe that batch to batch probably doesn't really matter that much because there's so many variables even within the multiple dyes on a single wafer that at the end of the day, it's all probably going to pretty

[3:08:55] much come out in the wash if you have more than a small handful of chips. >> Yeah. >> What other topics do we got left? Uh oh. One of the topics that I wanted to discuss is there's been um a fair bit of

[3:09:10] discuss is there's been um a fair bit of conversation on social media about conversation on social media about LMG's willingness to invest in in pay for for its employees. And I just wanted to kind of put this to rest again. I

[3:09:25] feel like uh we we did the how does LMG spend money video recently and I uh I I laid out, you know, how much more LMG has spent on employee salaries going

[3:09:37] from 2024 to 2025. Um, and it seems like that didn't really I don't know that didn't really sink in or it didn't really um it didn't really

[3:09:58] But basically, I've always believed sunlight is the best disinfectant. So, I >> Okay. >> And here it is. revenue and wage growth

[3:10:10] since 2018. So we I've talked about this both I think on WAN show as well as in how does LMG spend money um revenue had struggled

[3:10:23] to grow for a couple of years after 2022. In spite of that a combination of hiring more people but not really that many. Our headcount today is actually pretty similar to what it was in 2022 2023. So it's a combination of increased

[3:10:40] compensation for the people that are here as well as hiring additional people has seen our investment in people continue to increase uh even when our revenue has been quite flat. So sorry this is a bit of a this is a little bit

[3:10:54] confusing cuz this says growth and this says growth uh but that's not actually it. These are these are absolute values uh relative to each other. So that doesn't mean they're both using the same y-axis. It just means that we're looking

[3:11:06] at how these things track compared to Oh, wait, wait, no, no. I do remember. this to me. Uh, growth is relative to 2018. So, this is how much more than 2018 it is. Uh, and then there's a different view that is a little bit

[3:11:21] easier for me to wrap my brain around. And that's how much percentage change. So, this is zero over the previous year. So, wage growth outpaced revenue growth in 2019. Revenue growth outpaced wage growth in 2020.

[3:11:36] They were both about the same in 2021. Revenue growth outpaced wage growth a little bit in 2022. And then into 23 and 24, wage growth outpaced revenue growth

[3:11:48] dramatically. And then they're uh they those are reversed with revenue growth outpacing wage growth in 2025, but not by not by very much. It's pretty close like about like what we saw in 2019. Then there's profit. So, I've talked

[3:12:02] about this before as well. This is all relative to 2018. So, in 2022, because you're seeing that increased investment in people um happen when

[3:12:15] revenue is flat, that obviously has an impact on profitability. Neat, right? And then this is the yearonyear look. So

[3:12:29] year one year, we had a pretty big dip in profit in 2023 and things are a little bit more on pace with each other in 2024 and 2025, but as you can see, even though revenues recovered a little bit in 2025, uh

[3:12:46] profitability is still has its own struggles just because there are other struggles just because there are other overhead concerns aside from just overhead concerns aside from just salaries. So, just wanted to make it

[3:12:58] very very clear that LMG continues has and continues to invest in people and uh that applies both to key members that we want to keep here on the team as well as

[3:13:11] want to keep here on the team as well as to new hires.

[3:13:25] were killed in a single day by ASRock motherboards. Allegedly, ASRock has issued a statement saying it's investigating reports of AMD Ryzen 9000s uh failing on its AM5 motherboards. The company says that it is conducting

[3:13:41] internal reviews, working with AMD, and rolling out BIOS optimizations to improve stability. This comes after five different Reddit posts claiming multiple stopped working with some cases showing

[3:13:54] updates. In most of these reports, the chips are getting hot enough to leave scorch marks on the CPU and socket. And Tom's hardware found around 350 reports of the same issue, albeit not albeit those ones are not verified. So our

[3:14:09] hardware failures start trending online, how much should consumers rely on these anecdotal reports versus official failure rate numbers. failure rate numbers. Uh

[3:14:28] important. I don't think anecdotes should just be ignored. Um, should just be ignored. Um, official failure rate data though might take a really long time and I think you should be

[3:14:48] there isn't official failure rate data. Also, um, where did the official failure rate data come from? >> Yeah, I wish I could. Who would I trust today if they gave me like internal failure

[3:15:06] Who would you trust? >> Internal failure rates. >> I'd trust Noctua. >> Okay. >> If Noctua published a failure rate, which I don't think they ever would, but

[3:15:18] Is there anyone else you can think of that you would believe? that you would believe? >> I don't mean to offend. Uh, I think effectively no one. Um,

[3:15:32] I think it's like and and this this isn't because I'm like and and this this isn't because I'm like companies are evil. Um, it's like there's always the potential of a perverse incentive at every company

[3:15:49] everywhere. Um, there's always the potential. There are companies where I potential. There are companies where I think it might happen less. Uh, I am those companies like >> Mhm.

[3:16:01] Noctua is probably going to be legit about it, >> but do I have any idea how Noctua functions as a company? Not in the slightest. >> I think I probably have a little more

[3:16:13] talked to >> but not much because I'm still I'm not just taking them at their word like they they've said over and over again like we and reliable and we care about measurements and engineering and testing

[3:16:28] and then and then that has borne out so many times that that I that I've built >> Yeah, there's there's a track record. >> But you're not you're not in uh meetings >> No, I'm not. So, who knows? There there

[3:16:42] might be a perverse incentive somewhere, which could push someone to skew things >> I haven't met every single person who works at Noctua, that's for sure. >> So, there are there are companies that I would see that data from and believe

[3:16:59] more. There are companies that I would see that data from and believe less. >> Faxon says I would want third party. >> I'd trust Puget Systems.

[3:17:13] >> They're pretty based. >> They're pretty freaking based. >> I've met John. He's pretty based. >> That's one that I would I would index >> That's one that I would I would index quite high in the but but for basically

[3:17:26] this is a problem with all of these situations. A third party can't be hired by them. We have seen this. We've literally seen this happen >> when when that data gets skewed. There was an Intel one a bunch of years back

[3:17:39] >> you're not talking about principled technologies are you? >> where the like benchmark data was was off. >> it's not failure rate data but like I'm just talking about almost any data

[3:17:52] >> Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. >> And I think that I think that my bar would be lower for a private conversation versus something that they published. Like if >> like if if an SI for instance told me

[3:18:05] like yeah we've seen a 50% failure rate on these bloody things in the field >> higher numbers also make me believe it way more >> if somebody said 50% failure rate I would just believe it

[3:18:19] >> especially if if we're talking as and the context of the conversation matters as well like we're talking as business owners and if I was talking about like our backpack where the stupid bloody supplier

[3:18:32] It's horrible. >> Yeah. We're getting we're getting over half of our, you know, whatever card X's failing in the field and it's costing me a fortune in warranty returns like where you're swapping war stories.

[3:18:44] >> sound to believe that a little bit more >> matters. U Slithery says Falcon. Falcon is another SI actually two SI on my list that I think I think if Kel told me something I'd be like yeah cuz he just man that guy cares so much. I don't

[3:19:00] think I've met almost anyone else in the industry who's been in it as long as him and just like been through the ringer as much as him. And uh because you got to remember Falcon's not a volume >> company. Yeah. Like they've never kind

[3:19:13] of like Puget. They've they've stayed in their lane and excelled in their niche, but not like scaled, right? Like like he's not hanging out on his yacht, you

[3:19:26] like he's he's he's a work he's he works, you know, and uh and so he's just been kind of working as an SI. So, this is back when

[3:19:38] I was at NCIX. You just you get kind of screwed on everything. You get screwed on pricing. You get screwed on allocation. You get screwed on support. Like, you go and you list this stuff and you say, "Yeah, it's compatible, but

[3:19:50] like, oh my god, I didn't even get any of these until yesterday." and I or you a few weeks ago to do a bit of like validation and testing, but like I don't AMD or an Intel or an Nvidia has. So, I'm like I'm doing my best with like

[3:20:05] open- source tools or community built tools. Um like it's it's just it's a really tough business and yeah, Kelt's still Kelt's still super super >> Cool guy. >> The thing about an SI though is they're

[3:20:20] not really throwing their own product under the bus. cases, don't they? >> Yeah. Um, >> what if their stuff's overheating?

[3:20:33] >> Yeah. Yeah. I think even then though there's it's like a shared blame, whereas I think I would have a harder time time believing someone's data on their own

[3:20:47] product. Like if I told you guys a failure rate for LTT screwdriver, I think that would be harder for you to believe versus if I told you guys a failure rate for our mold maker making the handles or something like that. It's

[3:21:04] hard to admit your own fault. And I think that we intuitively know that and think that we intuitively know that and we trust people less when they're when motivation behind the conversation. And if you say the failure rate of the mold

[3:21:18] maker, that to me comes across as like woe is me. Our expenses are high control. >> Yeah. >> Rejecting those failures. >> If it's further down the line, then it

[3:21:31] >> you you risk the incompetence angle. >> That's right. Or I'm throwing a member of my team under the bus, which obviously I would have more sensitivity about versus throwing some random under the bus. Right.

[3:21:43] conversations. If I had to throw if for some reason I had to throw Kyle under the bus for something, >> I would I would want to sugarcoat it. >> I I would want to at least a little. >> That is a form of perverse incentive.

[3:21:56] This this the whole thing's a mess. Um basically, I wouldn't I wouldn't blindly trust any of these numbers, but um do with any of them what you will. >> I'm just trying to I want to check out chat. Um oh, hi Josh says, "What about

[3:22:11] chat. Um oh, hi Josh says, "What about Conic?" Sonic, I don't know. I like I I see their behavior as building quality products and standing behind them, but I don't like know that many people there. Like our rep is amazing. He's like the

[3:22:25] coolest guy ever. And if he was the CEO of the company, I'd be like, "Yeah, cuz he is based." But I I don't know the like senior Noctua or Falcon or Puet where I've like actually met them and had conversations

[3:22:39] with them. Um, Um, yeah. What else is here? Yeah, not much, man. >> Bits of bits says, "What about LTD

[3:22:51] store? I hear those guys are a thing. This might uh be spooky, but no." >> Okay. >> For the exact same reason I already gave >> Yeah. >> They are impossible to 100% get rid of

[3:23:07] in my opinion. >> Tell me something. tell me something good and I wouldn't publish it if it was bad. So for that

[3:23:20] >> is this part of why >> so for that reason if I was to publish it do you think I I would question my >> I would question your motivation. I think there are motivations that could

[3:23:34] exist that would make me fairly strongly believe it. >> Sure. Like there'd have to be a reason. Like why am I why am I talking about you know our ex our expenses? Well, there's a reason there's because somebody has

[3:23:47] raised this as as a thing. Um >> we're not going to win that war >> we're not going to win that war >> with the cables. No, with the cuz ah >> with the cables. No, with the cuz ah um

[3:24:02] cuz you're trying to you're trying to win a questioning war with transparency but legally cannot be I don't think you can. >> Yeah. >> But what I can say is objectively

[3:24:16] we are making the investments that people seem to think that we're not. But problem because the the questions are infinite >> and then and your problem is if there is a question at all on the internet you'll

[3:24:30] >> Oh yeah. >> And then that bothers much as there is to say at this point. >> Okay. for this one. Um, you know, the the simple fact is that whether it's through hiring more support or whether

[3:24:46] it's through scaling salaries, we have in spite of in spite of >> stagnant revenue over the last few years and declining profits, we have continued to invest >> in both.

[3:25:00] And you would never in a thousand years pry the exact reasons out of me for any single employees, you know, pay scaling. In fact, in most cases, this may

[3:25:13] >> I don't do everything and I don't even know, >> right? And so you would never you you you'd never get that out of me because >> and you shouldn't. >> Yeah. No, I agree. To force it back to

[3:25:27] the topic at hand. This is part of the reason for my comment about the CW stuff. It has genuinely nothing negative to do with CW. >> My the reason for that comment for me is that it it scales into

[3:25:40] everything and that included my own. And that's how I view CW. It's not mine. But that context was like I would still question it because like the second you start getting into distributed work which is like any

[3:25:55] distributed work which is like any company ever that has employees um there's weird stuff going on. There's weird stuff going on everywhere. And like what if what if someone's goals very noly is like hey let's get failure

[3:26:09] reliable. >> Yeah. And one of the ways that they can >> Yeah. And one of the ways that they can get their bonus or whatever is by being like numbers 1% higher. Nice. Got it. It's like, yeah, stuff might happen.

[3:26:23] >> No. >> Like I could stand here and I could I that I might not even know is bad. >> And I love the CW people. They're great. >> Yeah. >> But just like any company,

[3:26:37] >> Yeah. >> Things change. >> Yeah. So like I don't know. >> I don't know, man. Like I'm sitting here divorce ourselves. >> I am asking zero people to blindly trust

[3:26:52] >> And I never have. should get multiple sources. Exactly. >> And that's the inherent problem here is there is no multiple source. >> Exactly. I'm I'm falling back to the

[3:27:05] same argument we have always fallen back to. But it's hard to it's hard to to. But it's hard to it's hard to divorce myself from personal trust. If divorce myself from personal trust. If Kyle told me, I would believe him.

[3:27:17] >> That's well >> because maybe he maybe maybe >> there's there's a there's a required efficiency in order to live in a certain And I think in your situation, >> I just thought I think he's earned it.

[3:27:32] don't find out about things. Not about from the perspective of an audience member and I can't tell that >> No. Yeah. No, you're right. >> If I if I'm trying to give this audience

[3:27:47] >> uh I think the the modern people say chat if I'm trying to give chat um good advice >> on how to like you know approach things

[3:27:59] >> Yeah. blindly believe us because we're cool >> No, we will we'd never say that. >> But that's my point. So it's it has not it's no slight against CW. Again, I'm pointing at labs. Don't blindly believe

[3:28:12] stuff from labs either. Get multiple sources. And this is cuz I'm I'm trying >> Yeah, multiple sources. And also, I mean, logicing your way through things is also good, too. understanding like I've I've always I've always told people

[3:28:26] when when I talk about negotiations is like understand both sides of the table or you have absolutely no shot whatsoever of reaching any kind of meaningful agreement. Right? And it's the it's it's

[3:28:40] like it's the same when you're just when you're trying to understand why people are doing the things that they're doing. I think it's very easy to assume that they're a malicious monster or because they're a big dummy or whatever, but

[3:28:54] most of the time that's not the case. So if we so if we sit and we go okay, you know what would be his motivation for

[3:29:06] representing this failure rate or this representing this failure rate or this or or this data um in in this particular way. I think it can help us and and maybe that's where the context of the

[3:29:18] conversation comes in >> because if someone is trying the >> Yeah. If they're trying to impress you with how much loss they've absorbed this quarter, if it's a game of oneupmanship, then if anything, you might think they

[3:29:31] might exaggerate it. Whereas, if they're trying to sell you a big contract to use they're going to want to bring up is that 50% of the SSDs they're using have failed in the last quarter. If someone's trying to sell their company, they want

[3:29:46] machine with low failure rates. If someone's trying to get sympathy from their customers, they might try to point that their failure rates are really high because their quality control is really high. There are reasons all over the

[3:30:00] high. There are reasons all over the place. All over the place constantly. Um that yeah, especially the the No, I don't know if that's true. I was going to say especially bigger companies cuz there

[3:30:14] are like smaller factions with their own goals that um the people you might know might not even know those people exist that are that are causing things to kind

[3:30:28] of happen within these spaces and it gets it gets a little bit crazy. So information. Yeah, there you go. You could use it as information. I would prefer if it came from more than one source. So, like if a company claimed

[3:30:40] that they had some some something going on. Um, oh, our our devices fail only 3% of the time after 4 years or 2 years or something. Um, neat. That sounds cool.

[3:30:53] I'm not going to put a ton of stock into that. And then if a third party source, if if a if a if a creator, YouTube creator, whatever, comes out there, if Project Farm rips their thing apart for whatever reason, Sure.

[3:31:06] whatever reason, Sure. >> Uh I'm going to put more weight on that, necessarily >> a non tech numbers, right? Right. Like like if if AMD were to say, "Our CPU failure rates are less than 1%."

[3:31:21] out and say, "Yeah, we get less than 2% returns and most of them still work," least even if it doesn't mean that I believe 100%. I was going to bring this up. said, you know, something about putting more stock

[3:31:36] in it. And that reminded me like some of these companies are public companies on these companies are public companies on the subject of stock. And there's the subject of stock. And there's in theory legal ramifications for lying

[3:31:49] to investors for instance. Would you would you believe it anymore if in addressing this Ryzen CPUs are dying thing that AMD on a quarterly call said we've investigated it and we've found that it's actually a failure rate of

[3:32:04] less than you know.1% and and and we are still going to investigate it but it's it's a relatively isolated issue. Would you believe it even a little bit more knowing the sort of the potential legal ramifications around it

[3:32:18] come out and say that that's not actually what happened? >> I don't think so. >> Is that just because of the current zero >> 3,000%. Yeah. >> Yeah. Nothing happens when companies do

[3:32:31] that. So I I wouldn't believe it. If if if things did then then yeah. Um also I I've heard this is true. I'm not even trying to get political. Um, and I've business world like something you should do, but um I'm not into it. Uh, Nitoan

[3:32:51] >> um said Trump did this with his properties. Forbes calls, it's worth so much. Put me on your super wealthy list. Whatever. IRS calls the building's should probably charge me less taxes cuz the property value is lower. And like

[3:33:03] this is he used Trump in that example, brother. >> That's one of the few things that I've believed that that man has said over the >> Yeah. And tons of other people >> that everybody No, that everybody does

[3:33:19] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Like >> he said everyone does it. And I was like, "Yeah, probably." >> Yeah. Like actually. Um

[3:33:37] we have one more topic. SpaceX is acquiring AI startup XAI. >> Ahead of a potential IPO. >> Yeah. This is Yeah. >> Yeah. This is Yeah. >> So that we can build um data centers in

[3:33:49] space. >> Well, okay. Do you know >> I know it's less stupid than it sounds. >> Uh that wasn't where I was going. >> Uh do you know the money circle with OpenAI and Oracle and uh Nvidia and uh

[3:34:04] whoever else? This is like that but like >> it's just his it's just his own money >> Um but also orbital data centers. >> Cool. Nice >> Just to hope that you don't have to swap a RAM stick,

[3:34:25] AJ in space. >> I think AJ would go to space if we >> Based >> Yep. Oh, no key. reminded me that uh Project Farm actually uh did another roundup video that featured one of our

[3:34:40] products. Uh this time our precision screwdriver set, which is now our precision pro, by the way. Um yeah, included a whole bunch of other ones. Once again, we scored extremely well. I mean, you should obviously watch the

[3:34:54] >> yeah, I don't Yeah, >> the TLDDR is we're up here. Uh, a lot of >> the TLDDR is we're up here. Uh, a lot of the things that matter to me a lot, uh, we actually scored really well in. Coming first for subjective rating of

[3:35:09] the swivel end cap, first for how comfortable and natural the screwdriver feels in the hand, first for overall storage case, rating for bit retention, organization, and durability, and first for bit retention strength. Um, so

[3:35:22] holding on to the bits so that they don't come popping out if uh if you pull the screwdriver back and they're kind of like stuck in a screw a little bit. Uh, one of the areas where we fell short was

[3:35:34] in the durability of the bits under high pressure. Um, that was an active decision. It's one that not everyone will agree with, but I had issues sets before. And when I talked to the team about it, they basically went,

[3:35:49] "Well, okay, better steel is not necessarily a thing. >> Yeah. What properties are you looking for? Or do you want like a uh I forget softer it's Oh, right. It's whether they'll bend or whether they will snap.

[3:36:05] >> Um will they stay the same shape until they snap or will they bend a little bit before they break um and and be less likely to snap? And with a precision set, we ultimately made the decision to go with one that would not snap under

[3:36:21] duress. Um, and that's not a decision that absolutely everyone will agree >> Nice. >> Um, so yeah, it's always very cool to >> Um, so yeah, it's always very cool to see Todd's extremely creative uh testing

[3:36:36] methodologies. He really does have kind of a way of uh bringing things into the real world. Uh whether I necessarily agree with absolutely everything he does, I would say I would say no. I thought the uh the laptop drop

[3:36:52] test onto the like the bar was a little really well in it with the the backpack video that he did a little while ago. though. >> But what I was going to say

[3:37:05] >> is that much like we always say to get multiple perspectives. I think Todd's perspective is extremely valuable. >> Completely. Yeah. >> I think just inherently in the way that he does his tests, there's some that are

[3:37:20] going to be imperfect. And I think that's awesome. Um, and I don't think I that's awesome. Um, and I don't think I I don't desire a change there at all personally and I do know that. Uh, P Kinetic says,

[3:37:34] snapping, isn't that a sign that something ain't right?" Yes. Which is exactly why I didn't want to go the snapping route because you should never be putting that much force on a precision screwdriver bit.

[3:37:49] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. The the one time I managed to uh destroy a bunch of precision bits, and I I admit I went through more than I would like to admit, was on some Apple device that had some hidden something that made it so that

[3:38:06] it didn't until you like unlocked something or something. I I forget the experience that I had that made me ultimately choose not to go for the the snapping kind cuz it like a piece went like flying off of it and I was like,

[3:38:21] "Oh, that's probably not that great." >> Bits of bits in float plane chat said, "I just make my bits into bits so they become bits of bits."

[3:38:34] >> After dark. >> Yeah, it's after dark. Let's go, boys. >> Yeah, it's after dark. Let's go, boys. >> Let's go.

[3:38:46] >> Yeah. >> Nice. >> Solid. >> I just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I am nice.

[3:39:01] >> Yeah. Sweet >> sounds good. Yeah. Exactly. Sweet. I have no desire to change that. I'm probably going to stay sweet forever. >> Cool. >> Yeah, that's what it is.

[3:39:15] >> Oh, sorry. Do you want some more? >> No. observation. >> I'm on my fourth, I think. Thirsty today. I might have a disorder. >> Uh, I probably do. Uh, what's up, boys?

[3:39:31] Do all of you have eight sleep? Would you recommend it? And how do you guys like it? I have one. It's kind of a lifesaver. >> From everything that I've seen externally, they seem to be like kind of

[3:39:45] >> They seem to be a horrible company. They seem to have horrible practices and >> mine died once. They did send me a new one, but I couldn't tell you for sure whether that was just because I'm an influencer.

[3:40:00] I sleep a lot more comfortably on it. I sleep a lot more comfortably on it. If mine dies and I were to have to buy another one, I'm going to really hope leave. >> But if there wasn't,

[3:40:14] >> But if there wasn't, >> yeah, I don't know cuz it really does >> yeah, I don't know cuz it really does help a lot. I cook and uh the partner does not

[3:40:26] >> And this is a pretty common occurrence. >> Water bed. One side water bed. >> Water bed with a heated blanket under >> Water bed with a heated blanket under her.

[3:40:47] there's no there's no other choice. >> It really has done a lot for me. I I think you'd do it again. I think if it came down to it, what I would really hope to do is, you remember that project where somebody figured out how to like

[3:41:00] hack it to make it local is I would put like a bounty out there is I would put like a bounty out there to get that going again. to get that going again. I think that's what I would do.

[3:41:14] >> Oh, yeah. I had to reset your uh your background. I'm sorry about that, Linus. The problem is >> that is like the opposite of the point.

[3:41:28] >> I need it cooled. >> She needs it heated. It has to be able to do both. >> In the winter, I was running on they they have this thing where it can like track your body heat and and do

[3:41:40] whatever. I turned that off >> or didn't subscribe to it or something. I don't have that running. I just have it pinned to the lowest possible temperature it can go all of the time and do that in the winter.

[3:41:53] He's a warm boy. >> And I still sometimes wake up like >> it's surely time says hear me out separate beds. Like no >> no >> there's no way. I I man I Ivon and I

[3:42:06] think we've ever actually reached a conclusion for how bad like tossing and turning or snoring or something would have to be for us to sleep in separate

[3:42:19] beds. Like it is like it is a key part of of being a couple and like >> paradox said bamboo cooling sheets. Trust me, bro. Yeah, I did. I did trust

[3:42:33] people who suggested that at one point in time. >> They're not magic. Trust me, bro. >> They're not magic. >> They're not magic. >> I be cooking. Okay.

[3:42:49] you. >> This is the standard. Yeah. You got you got generic generic packaged letter A. >> Yeah. >> All right. More.

[3:43:03] >> What's up, calm gobblers? My calm gobbler quote unquote girlfriend instantly fixed the TV after I had >> floundered for an hour and slow down. >> floundered for an hour and slow down. Slow down. Is that what we've done by

[3:43:18] >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> Comm gobbler. you were saying? You >> No, he did. There's no way he is. Did

[3:43:30] Look at the look on his face. See? See? That's the look. That's the look of a man who knew exactly what he was doing. >> My calm god rackets girlfriend is crazy. >> Well, he actually looks like crazy. >> He actually looks like this meme.

[3:43:47] >> I can't believe that was >> I can't do I can't do his voice. >> He actually did this. >> He's this man.

[3:44:05] >> I Do you have any similar stories about your uh uh Sorry. Uh I She fixed the TV after I had floundered for an hour and I was embarrassed. Do you have any similar you? >> Yeah, Emma Emma goes, "Who's the tech

[3:44:19] >> I >> look at me, I'm the tech boyfriend now. >> My daughter forgot her PIN on a Samsung phone and forgot the password for the going to be more trouble than it's worth, and it's going to cost more to

[3:44:33] fix than this older phone is probably worth. I just I I can't be bothered." >> "Reset it. I can do. No, no, you couldn't reset it >> unless she was like, I'm gonna go to a kiosk in the mall and I'm gonna see if

[3:44:46] was like 50 bucks, 75, something like that. And I was like, >> I would not expected I would not have expected that to work. >> It worked. It turns out that our whole security, it's it's it's tied to our

[3:45:03] account. Nobody should steal it because it's tied to my account thing is all completely made up. All make believe. Yep. Cool. >> Lionus, since you have recent experience in oral care, I wanted to get your

[3:45:17] opinion on this. I asked my dentist why they still pull teeth with pliers, and he replied, "How would you innovate oral care?" That's a Yeah, that's a really great question. It really is a very, very

[3:45:29] unpleasant experience getting uh getting teeth out. I if anything I would say like you know it'd be kind of cool if they if they had something that like really shaped around the tooth so that it you know grabbed it

[3:45:45] better cuz when they like slip or like you know you know break it off like I drones that like fly in your mouth and blast it out with lasers or something like I I don't really see how you can innovate on like rip a rip a thing out

[3:46:00] of a jawbone. You've had teeth out. You were awake for >> Oh, you you went under. >> Yeah. They were like, "No, you need to." One one of them was coming in like totally sideways.

[3:46:14] >> Yeah. Um and I got all four at once and yada yada yada. I said that I didn't want to do it and the guy was like, >> All right. >> Solid.

[3:46:27] >> Um Oh, you were impacted. Yeah. I don't I don't really remember the details. He where if I remember correctly, he like wasn't going to do it. Um yeah, >> Yeah, he explained why he had to like

[3:46:44] mainly because the one of them was coming in like completely sideways and cool. This has to be you're going to go down." And I was like, "Okay." I wonder how many people like a thousand years ago, like how many people just

[3:46:57] brain. >> A lot. >> I mean the the the primary reason why I had to do it was because that thing coming in the way that it was >> meant it that it was impossible to get a

[3:47:09] >> So there was like >> So then your mouth would just start that's bad. >> Yeah. like anything that goes wrong with your body after your prime childbearing

[3:47:23] years, whatever. Like it has it has no there's no evolutionary disadvantage to it. So >> who cares if your teeth become mangled at 40? You already spread your seed or you know

[3:47:39] >> Yep. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Hey LD com check for your home servers. What is your normal complement of virtual machines or containers to run?

[3:47:54] virtual machines or containers to run? >> I I just have like a desktop OS and Plex mine. >> I have not actually dabbled much yet. >> I have not actually dabbled much yet. It's mostly been desktop oss. Um but

[3:48:10] >> I will be running Image. Um, once I'm switched over, once Hexos goes out of alpha, investment disclosure, I'm super excited for just simpler setup and and

[3:48:22] stuff when I can Oh, I have a home assistant uh VM as well. >> I've I've almost always only had one system. So, a lot of things were just running on the same system that I did everything else with. Um, and usually I

[3:48:36] that on anyone else was zero. So, if I had to restart my computer, it's like, had to restart my computer, it's like, well, yeah, whatever.

[3:48:51] love the screwdrivers. I've lost and broken a few at work. A magnetite mine. >> The devil's magnetite. Sounds cool. It's >> like ferris sounds like MCU stuff.

[3:49:04] Magnetite. >> Strongly magnetic ion oxide mineral. Cool. Yeah. Um, Um, why did you invert the mechanism for how

[3:49:17] why did you invert the mechanism for how every other screwdriver I guess like changes the direction? And how often am I supposed to clean the dirt out of the ratchet? Okay, you're not supposed to get dirt in the ratchet, but um

[3:49:32] I admit that we never thought of IP rating it. to return to their families, >> right? Yeah, that makes a ton of sense, actually. Uh I I I don't I I literally don't I don't

[3:49:47] know if I don't know if you can do that. That um Wow. Didn't think of that. As for why we inverted it, uh it's because we're not the only ones. Snap-on also goes the same direction that we do. And to me it was always more intuitive to go

[3:50:05] to me it was always more intuitive to go this is the direction I am screwing in. This is the direction I am unscrewing right now. And so we actually put significant time and money and energy into a perfectly good ratchet ratchet um

[3:50:20] selector mechanism from MegaPro that I really really really really really wanted to go the other way because I liked it better that way. >> Correct call. >> I'm glad you like it, Dan.

[3:50:36] cleaning insight. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> How much did it cost to make modified kit? And will it be around for a while

[3:50:50] randomly curious. >> Cheaper than you'd think. The molds for the OG screwdriver were really expensive. like over $100,000 for all the molds. In fact, like a lot over $100,000. I'm rusty on the numbers, but

[3:51:03] $100,000. I'm rusty on the numbers, but a lot. Um the molds for the precision screwdriver were done over in China instead of by um ITD here locally. So, I think it was like a couple grand. >> I was told the number for like

[3:51:19] >> the the plate >> with the logo. Do you want me to say >> I don't believe you. I need multiple sources. say it just cuz I wanted to set that up. >> I mean, it's a good point though cuz I

[3:51:33] am probably someone who heard from someone who heard from someone. So, like >> Zilm says, "China owns your molds now." And that is exactly the trade-off. So, you get something made onshore here, you

[3:51:48] you get something made onshore here, you own it. I own that mold for the OG screwdriver. And that's really really important for a product that uh I I really don't want to be copied. Um however, the molding for a casing

[3:52:04] for what is the real product is a lot less important to me. I think it would be harder for someone to replicate the user experience of the precision screwdriver simply by having the mold for the plastic shell that sits around

[3:52:19] >> you're talking specifically this? Yeah, this piece. So that's why we make strategic decisions um about where we are going to make our molds depending on

[3:52:31] what their purpose is. The OG screwdriver also needed to be useful for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cycles. And a better quality mold will last longer before it needs to be remade. That I don't know a

[3:52:45] few thousand. We're not going to make a ton of those. So, it's just not as important that it's a super high quality mold that we we own super high quality mold that we we own forever.

[3:53:02] depends on how it sells and it depends on how many we bought and I don't know either of those things right now. If you want one, buy it though. Like I we always go through this when stuff comes in on LT Store and it's like people

[3:53:16] relatively small company in the grand scheme of things especially when you consider how much stuff we do like how many SKs we have. Um like we will we'll bring in a shirt that it turns out we got wrong and we're moving like one unit

[3:53:32] every 3 days. So then we'll we'll put it on sale and during a big promo and we'll thank God they're gone." And then we'll have people crawling out of the woodwork going, "Oh, I was I I I wanted to buy one of those. I was saving up for that."

[3:53:45] I'm like, "Bro, like I'm sorry. I can't I can't do an entire like 4,000 unit I can't do an entire like 4,000 unit order so that you can have one when you like you missed it. I cuz they'll I'll it'll take me like four years to sell

[3:53:58] it'll take me like four years to sell through them. Like I can't do that. through them. Like I can't do that. Sorry. feel like I've done all of them. >> Nope. None.

[3:54:13] it. >> Oh, I got one for Luke. >> Sure. >> Hi, LLD. Actually, this one's for Lionus. No. Uh, hi from San Diego. >> If the open AI bubble crash were to be

[3:54:26] controlled implosion, where would they actually split up? Is the name brand all that's left? Other models are better. And I I it's cut off a bit. Probably >> and profitable. Other models are better at profitable.

[3:54:41] Is it nameland? The name brand of openi is worth a lot. >> I think so too. Name brand of chat GBT. >> Somebody said in float plane that you can't really like say chat anymore because people are calling chat chat

[3:54:54] >> Like I'm going to I'm going to chat it. >> Crazy. Yeah. >> I didn't know that. >> We're that part of culture now. >> We verbed it like googling. >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to chat.

[3:55:06] >> Stupid. >> Hey chat, is that true? Like actually though, I I don't know. Somebody said that randomly. Yeah, it's called chat now. >> Wow.

[3:55:24] YouTube creator thing. uh a a a friend, a queen's friend, whatever you want to call it, um came up with consulting the sands, and I like that a lot. That's always been my favorite one. I will consult the sands.

[3:55:38] I say talking to my parrot. According to chat GPT, users have started calling chat GPT simply chat tongue. >> Yeah, that's rough. I like consultant

[3:55:53] hands. It's far from short. But I like that it doesn't it keeps the idea of the fact that you're just asking a compressor chip >> like right at the core of it and I love

[3:56:08] >> Like it's it's actually it's it's by far my favorite one. I did not come up with it, >> but uh that's my favorite one. like epic. >> Yeah,

[3:56:20] >> when it's like the opposite of that. And then can you like set the font and then then can you like set the font and then you could consult the comic sands?

[3:56:33] to wear out this bell. Okay. Few left. Few left. Few left. Let's see. Howdy, boys. This is a quick one for

[3:56:45] Lionus. How much longer do you have to deal with those braces? >> are they still yellow? >> Sometimes when I eat curry. >> Yeah. Well, >> I might have curry tonight just to off a

[3:57:01] >> No, I don't know that right now. >> Do you guys, color. Get something that won't stain. It's actually crazy. Purple. I'm

[3:57:15] about my appearance. I mean, look. I >> Damn. He can't go. He can't go and shave. >> Put on a different shirt. Lis. No, just go change your teeth.

[3:57:28] >> I was thinking about maybe on the last one. is crazy to me. >> I'll get like I'll get like green and pink ones. I'll go Lambo for the last one. I in fact I was going to do it on

[3:57:41] not the last one but the previous uh elastic change and then the reason I didn't is that right now I'm using what they call a power chain. Um so instead of having just individual elastics on each tooth it's just one big chain all

[3:57:54] the top and a lot of the bottom right now. So, what I had wanted to do was now. So, what I had wanted to do was like uh green on my canines and then pink everywhere else, but it was not meant to be, unfortunately.

[3:58:11] I don't know, man. I just don't I They still bother me a lot in terms of the and all that, but they don't really bother me in terms of like the jaw ache bother me in terms of like the jaw ache or the um like the look or the talking.

[3:58:24] You know, it's funny. the mics on the Tonight Show I felt like picked it up a something, but I don't notice it as much in our regular videos as I did when I >> I feel like I don't know if this impacts it. I feel like you were talking a lot

[3:58:37] that day cuz I started noticing it happening more as the day progressed. sore and really cut up. >> Oh, dude. I got the most I'm still trip. So, like >> Oh, I'm talking about on the inside. Oh,

[3:58:54] >> and so sometimes it'll get like a really deep cut and then it'll catch on the >> Oh man. >> Which happens. Which happens way more in >> Which I know because now I'm acutely aware of it every single time it

[3:59:08] >> Right. Yeah. >> Yes. I know about I know about the wax, >> Yes. I know about I know about the wax, but I'm just add and take it off before I eat or just eat it and then put it back on after I eat.

[3:59:21] It's just a whole thing, man. Um, anyway, it's just this one. >> they actually remounted this bracket on the lower left K9 last time I was in uh supposed to be one of the benefits of these ceramic braces that this

[3:59:37] particular system is that you don't have to remount brackets, but I did. So, they remounted this one and they're trying to turn this one. And so, most of it has made really good progress. And like I don't know. I think

[3:59:54] >> Looks pretty lined up. Well, >> there's that one that's twisted like 15° >> there's that one that's twisted like 15° off that I might be waiting waiting can't turn it too fast. >> Would you ever take the top row off but

[4:00:07] leave the bottom? >> Uh, I would. My ortho won't. >> apparently. >> Weird. But this is the same ortho that wouldn't even work on them until I got my wisdom

[4:00:20] teeth out, which other orthos did not say the same thing. So, it's not like that's just standard practice, but they were rated really well. And unlike the didn't want to pull any of my non-wisdom teeth. One of the other ones wanted to

[4:00:34] this crowding issue and just have me have a middle tooth. And I was like, "Buddy, we're not doing that." >> No. Yeah. You know what's funny though is I was like upset about him saying that I should do that, but I actually it

[4:00:48] took me years and my wife pointing out to me >> that she has one tooth out >> and that her her smile is offset. about that part. Have you ever noticed? I just No. And I don't care about that

[4:01:01] you don't have to pull my teeth out, I'm going to rather not. That was my only >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

[4:01:13] >> Shut up. >> You will never not be able to notice it. not notice it because I know about my wife's one and I still don't notice it.

[4:01:25] He totally does. Oh my god, he does. What? >> I'm sorry for anybody who didn't know this. No, I'm just never going to care. Oh, that's fun trivia. >> Oh my god, it's it's like right dead

[4:01:38] >> Oh my god, it's it's like right dead center. >> I'm not going to lie. To me, it just looks like his mouth is turned to the side all the time because like

[4:01:53] I think it looks like he has two primary teeth in the front. They're just shifted to the side. Yeah, pretty much. Okay. Yeah, pretty much. Okay. That hurts to see. Yeah. Wow. I Wow. I

[4:02:08] just don't care. I don't Yeah, I don't know. I don't Yeah, I don't know. More more merch messages that are now More more merch messages that are now check out messages.

[4:02:21] >> Still getting used to it. >> I'm going to screw it up at some point >> cuz all over my screen it says merch messages. >> So, we'll get that fixed. Hi, LD one for Alinus. How do you keep

[4:02:36] from becoming overwhelmed by challenges and burden of running a company? Any tips, tricks, or thoughts to share? Uh, Uh, God, I wish I had any.

[4:02:55] something. Like I I I forget who was in my office, but I was just like they were giving me some kind of bad news and I was just like, can I just, you know, life is already hard mode, right, for

[4:03:09] everyone for everyone. I'm not special, right? Like my life is not special hard. If anything, I've been I've been very blessed, very lucky, very privileged in a lot of ways. Um, but life in general, it's PvE, PvP, PV,

[4:03:24] all the things. EVP. >> It's it's it's it's tough. Life is life is hard. And I I I just I kind of like like I wasn't I wasn't yelling at them, but I was like I was kind of doing the thing where I like talk very animatedly

[4:03:38] like I'm hosting, but in a one-on-one conversation. It's like just kind of almost like Shrek style. Like could just could just nothing go wrong for five could just nothing go wrong for five minutes, you know? Can we just have can

[4:03:51] we just have everything operate normally and you know I just I just come into the and you know I just I just come into the office and and like there's no tech company you know sending us a broken sample or no you know someone dropped a

[4:04:08] camera or you like whatever for just could we just have smooth operation? been? It might have been when the the RAM apocalypse started happening because

[4:04:20] it was right on the heels of us making the MSRP PC. >> Yeah. >> And I was I was just like for for for 5 minutes, could the industry just just off and let me talk about how cool

[4:04:34] the stuff they make is? Can we just chill, you know? Can we just chill, you know? And the answer is no. And um and I think the only way that I manage to keep from being overwhelmed is

[4:04:51] to keep from being overwhelmed is remembering why we do it. And it's for it's for magic moments like, you know, seeing longtime employees who I've known since they were they were they were young and childless bring their their

[4:05:05] kids and, you know, sitting on Santa's lap at the Christmas party or, you know, whether it's uh whether it's someone, you know, sending me a little message after hours or or having a quick chat with me in the parking lot telling me

[4:05:18] like, "Oh, I you know, I got a new car." um you know that kind of thing or I bought a house or you know whatever it is. Um uh we had we we've had some people um be injured over the last little while like

[4:05:32] injured over the last little while like not at work. Um but you know hey I you know used the benefits program in in this way or that way and and that really helped you know you know why do we why do we do it? And the answer

[4:05:45] always has to be people because if it's not then you're not going to be able to >> Man, it's been really nice for physio. I've I've found a physio like my guess I've I've found a physio like my guess is 3 years ago at this point who like I

[4:05:59] actually really jive with and every time I've gone to him, I've needed to see him once for the thing that is like a problem and he'll give me like a piece then I actually do it. I never have to see him again.

[4:06:11] >> Well, until the next thing comes up. But like it's it's not the same thing. Um >> And he's freaking awesome. And I've never had to pay for it, which has been thing, but Yeah. >> Yeah. But it's like a token almost. Um

[4:06:28] >> like someone at one of the at one of the pool parties at my place in the summer, um someone was talking about their adult uh braces journey. And we don't do full coverage for braces, but we do cover a very significant amount of it. And it

[4:06:41] was like, yeah, this was like why I was able to do it. And I'm like, that's >> I mean, it's not cool. It's adult braces, but but but it's something. The end result, I'm allowed to say they're not cool. I have them.

[4:07:02] cooling a PC with outside air in an insulated workshop using the positive pressure created as the main form of ventilation? Absolutely love the ventilation? Absolutely love the products. Have to save

[4:07:16] for something else. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um can we fix that truncation people are like >> It definitely tells you how many characters you have left. I have done that when I've replied occasionally. Uh

[4:07:31] yeah, but can you type past the amount? >> Yeah, maybe. Maybe we could stop them >> or something. >> Just an idea. >> Um yeah, it's happened quite twice tonight. It doesn't happen very often at

[4:07:44] all, but cooling a PC with outside air. >> Yeah, it does stop >> using the positive pressure created. >> Maybe it's a mobile thing >> as the main form of ventilation. So, it sounds like you want to put your PC's

[4:07:58] intake on the like the air intake for your on the like the air intake for your workshop.

[4:08:11] around this. Using the positive pressure created as the main form of ventilation. created as the main form of ventilation. So, it sounds like you just need like a ventilation fan and then you just need to

[4:08:27] fan and then you just need to like put a duct on the back of your PC like put a duct on the back of your PC and then on the front of your PC and then put the vent fan. Maybe you'd have to have two. Maybe you'd have to

[4:08:39] have one like right at the vent and it blows into the PC and then one on the Honestly, this sounds like more work than it's probably worth is what I am

[4:08:51] thinking right now. And Luke doesn't seem to care. He's doing something else >> Yeah, >> classic Luke. linked. They were trying to tag you in full plane chat. So, I was checking to

[4:09:04] somebody made somebody, as far as I can tell, vibe coded the the app that you >> Oh, that's hilarious. >> So, I was I was checking it out. >> Okay. That was fast.

[4:09:17] >> Yeah. >> Hey, LLDD. As a fellow workaholic, how do you balance work without ignoring your significant other? Start a company with her. >> Not financial advice.

[4:09:30] >> Actually, not advice. We made it work, but it was not always We made it work, but it was not always easy. Lots of tears. Uh, have a very understanding partner.

[4:09:49] I also have a technique. >> Oh, no. No. >> Breakup. >> And then it won't be a problem at all.

[4:10:02] >> And then it won't be a problem at all. >> Three not answers.

[4:10:18] that was like what's that? That was just everything got progressively worse the everything got progressively worse the whole time. >> Isn't that like a storytelling technique? Like escalation,

[4:10:33] technique? Like escalation, >> something like that. product message. >> Maybe don't ask us about work stuff. We

[4:10:48] >> Maybe don't ask us about work stuff. We don't know. We're all weird. Um, last >> They're not going to stop. >> I know. Uh, the last one I've got, I am in the process of building my ultimate PC. Singularity computers case. Hell

[4:11:01] >> Holy crap. >> Handpicked components only. de creme. >> Handpicked components only. de creme. Should I go for the 9800 3x or rather Should I go for the 9800 3x or rather 9950 3x? Um, okay. Normally I wouldn't

[4:11:16] >> 3DX. >> Normally I wouldn't do this, but it seems to me that this looks like it's going to be a real product. I don't actually have any inside knowledge, but there is there was rumored to be a 9950

[4:11:32] X3D2. And the difference between this and the uh the 9950 X3D um is that both of the CCDs will have 3D

[4:11:46] um is that both of the CCDs will have 3D vcache. Um, worry about the issue that people run into on the current flagship, the current 16 core flagship, where

[4:11:59] occasionally a gaming thread will end up on the wrong die and you can um you can experience slightly reduced performance in those cases, which is which is why the 9850X3D or previously the 9800 X3D were like the

[4:12:14] the gaming flagship. But this new one looks like it should be zero compromise. Um, so make of that what you will, but I have no confirmation when it will

[4:12:28] arrive. If it didn't arrive, if this is for gaming, then I would probably go 9850 X3D. It's the fastest gaming CPU. But because

[4:12:40] you've gone 50/90, I assume you're going to get a high resolution monitor, which to get a high resolution monitor, which means you areing never going to notice that your CPU is slightly faster. And on that note, we'll see you again

[4:12:54] next week. Same bad time. Same bad time. Bye.