Debate Show: Dharmendra Pradhan's Resignation – What Comes Next?

[00:02] between the government representatives and the CJP representatives at the Constitutional Club, Devendra Fadnavis, he had no plan. Suddenly he has been called to Delhi. why the hell? Why has he been called? Right now only speculations can be made and these four pictures are

[00:17] and these four pictures are visible to you on the screen right now. All my friends whom you can see at this time. One, Rohan Gupta ji has joined us who is the national spokesperson of Bharatiya [Sangit] Janata Party. Jagdish

[00:29] Sharma ji, who is a Congress leader, has joined us. Aziz Khan Sahib, who is the national spokesperson of the Samajwadi Party, has also joined us and Professor Anand Ranganathan has also joined us. You all are very welcome.

[00:41] Jagdish ji, I am starting with you. The biggest victory, please close up a little, Rupika ji, you are absolutely right. The victory is of democracy and the Constitution and of the youth and students. If the government had

[00:55] students. If the government had understood 10-15 days ago that the youth would become very angry, then perhaps this situation would not have arisen. One should resign on moral grounds when the situation becomes bad. One should not love the chair so much. Saying what I think is a

[01:07] win for everyone. It is the victory of the students and I keep appealing to all the people sitting there to maintain peace. This India belongs to all of us and do not try to destroy it. Somewhere or the other, let us congratulate this victory, Prime Minister. If you had

[01:21] understood this earlier, I believe this situation would not have arisen. So whose victory is this? Is it CJP's or the opposition's?

[01:35] is victorious. The opposition is standing with us and whenever Rahul Gandhi will stand with us, whenever the government commits any kind of atrocity, be it against farmers, Rahul Gandhi's religion. The leader of the opposition will stand up and raise his voice today, he will fulfill his duty.

[01:49] This victory is the victory of the students. Jain ji is victorious. This work got done for less. If the Prime Minister had continued a little longer, I would have remembered Nepal as an atrocity after atrocity. Such a situation had arisen. We are saddened by the kind of abuses people were hurling at the Prime Minister of the country.

[02:02] This should not happen in our country. Such situations will arise if the parties work together. If you want to show your strength then go and show it among the public. Does anyone show power by spreading anarchy ? Jagdish Bhai, tell me this.

[02:17] Rubika ji, I mean you should show the election boys that you have so much power in Nepal, does anyone show power by burning tyres, tell me this, you should go in front of the police and listen, if you go in front of the police and

[02:31] tell them in such a manner that we will make Nepal, this is called power, in Nepal, why I have not been to Nepal, you would not have shown such news,

[02:45] Nepal, you would not have shown such news, such situations would have happened, tell me save this, this is your such situations would have happened, tell me save this, this is your and our religion, its

[02:58] time is going on and no one, my dear, you people have shown that the country cannot turn India into Nepal, you should write this down and take it down, no matter who is in power, no one has the courage to turn who is in power, no one has the courage to turn India into Nepal, I am

[03:11] saying it very clearly Jagdish Bhai, no one has the status to turn India into Nepal, whether someone is no one has the status to turn India into Nepal, whether someone is , in some dispute. Prime Minister,

[03:25] I am saying that your demand is legitimate. We are with you. Accountability should be fixed. There is no problem in this. But do you have this curiosity to turn India into Nepal? Brother, so much

[03:39] ego is not right. Rubika ji, you people should ask the Prime Minister. Whose children are these? I am sure that those who might have arrogance, we are arrogance, we are sure that

[03:53] no one can dare to break the mike of Indian democracy, create Nepal, yes I am saying again that the resignation of the one who is responsible, it is a

[04:07] good thing that you stuck to this and the other person had to resign, it is and the other person had to resign, it is your victory, but no, if we had threatened then would anyone have listened to anyone, will democracy not listen at all, Jagdish Bhai, now I am moving ahead,

[04:22] I am moving ahead Anand Ranganathan what is your first reaction to this, better late than never, what is the use of repenting when the bird has eaten up the crop, which is the saying, it came very late but still it came right, hello Rubika ji, you must be aware that

[04:38] months ago CJP was not even formed, cockroaches had not even gathered, I and Ajit Bharti were on your show. Ajit Bharti had said that Dharmendra Pradhan should resign. said that Dharmendra Pradhan should resign. Today, a petition from Ajit Bharti ji has come to the court and

[04:53] I should be happy that the resignation has taken place. But I am feeling sad because this shows that if you come on the streets, you create anarchy, you block roads illegally, then the Modi government will listen. And I kind of agree

[05:09] with Ajit ji because the same thing happened in Farm Loss. But there is a difference in this. The protests against farm loss were irrational and illogical. Have you taken membership of AJP?

[05:22] Look, I already said that because then No, please tell me. Anandaji Janata Party.

[05:34] Anandaji Janata Party. [laughs] I am honest but Rubika ji, look it is a simple thing that apart from these demands, those who thing that apart from these demands, those who

[05:48] but the government did not listen to them. Rohan ji is my friend, he knows this has been going on for a long time my friend, he knows this has been going on for a long time but now the message is that in the last one hour you know who all have demanded resignation, Amit Shah,

[06:00] Nitin Gadkari, Nirmala Sitaram, now this is not going to stop. The only thing I would say to them is that do not demand Modi's resignation because he is the next brother. Hmm. You see, brother, this thing has become very popular on Twitter too.

[06:15] So when one thing was written written or the resignation of Anand's Dharmendra Pradhan, then he is saying that now write Rubika Kalyan, the master stroke of Modi government. Are.

[06:29] So is this a master stroke of the Modi government that it has done this work under pressure? This is a disaster stroke because the work has been done under complete pressure. He did

[06:44] not listen to those whom he should have listened to. And now the message that is going out is that brother, you will come on the streets and create riots, which Yogendra Yadav was saying. I am saddened that what he said turned out to be true. I mean, tell me, what could be more embarrassing than this? Rubika ji, those who

[06:59] want to create riots on the streets, who are saying that the Parliament will not be heard turn out to be true then the message that has gone out is that we will not listen to the legitimized demands of the students, unless you come on the streets, unless

[07:15] you create riots. I am not saying that all the demands that you are making are true, I just want to know from you that this yes I have read it on Twitter. Ok. Now in that Dharmendra Pradhan is

[07:30] mentioning this at two places that but even during this time, people sitting on responsible positions tried to create obstacles to mislead many students, due to which the mind is very saddened. We will tried to create obstacles to mislead many students, due to which the mind is very saddened. We will

[07:46] This is my resolution. Then they are saying that the unity of the country remain intact. The future of not a single student in India should be

[07:58] entangled in legal complications. That is why now I am going to submit this resignation to the PM. What does it mean that the situation has become very bad after the arrival of Intel? It was decided that if brother does not take it then others outside the house will be determined to demolish the house.

[08:13] No, but look Rubika ji, if you remember that six years ago it was explained in exactly similar language as to why we are taking back the farm losses. I had brought in farm loss in the interest of the country and am taking it back in the interest of the farmers.

[08:27] No reasoning was given. come. Suddenly you removed what was wrong. But you did not give any and

[08:40] after that the master started saying that see that the elements should not go, this should not come, that should not come, well you are saying that the script is old, yes Rohan Gupta ji, the script is old, you took yes Rohan Gupta ji, the script is old, you took too much time, Gupta ji, while coming you are

[08:54] taking the resignation, see Rubika ji, today is a very important debate and I am feeling good in presenting my views in front of the people of the country. You have been debating for a long time, Rubika ji. Democracy has been murdered in India.

[09:09] No one's voice can be heard. The voice of agencies is going on. No one can speak his mind. Today the opposition's failure was exposed. Why? It was the Modi government which democratically allowed the students to do whatever they wanted to do at Jantar Mantar for 21 days. He was able to

[09:25] fast with complete freedom. We remember what happened to Anna Hazare during the Congress government. It is because of Modi government that Sonam Vanchit ji was taken to the hospital with respect. He was treated. His life was not allowed to be in danger. This is the Modi

[09:38] government when it came to the students' march towards Parliament on Monday. Even then the situation was handled peacefully till afternoon. After that, these political elements, the opposition, we call them spent cartridges, the guns that have burst. The

[09:53] way they have created this opposition, here Rohan Gupta ji, the opposition has not come yet. Right now CJP is playing CJP. The Do you remember this thing about Yadav or Yogendra Yadav? What he was saying was that now in democracy the Parliament will be

[10:09] run from the streets and not from the Parliament. Does n't this seem to be what is happening? Anand Ranganathan is saying the same thing. Brother, you should have taken this decision earlier. So today no one can say that decisions will be taken from the streets. We will put pressure on that reason.

[10:24] Which is not at all. Rubika ji, it was not about the resignation of any one person. It was a matter of responsibility. The entire government has taken responsibility. When the Prime Minister of the country is involved in this matter, then how can we talk about one person, we are talking about the entire system.

[10:36] Give me just 30 seconds. I am telling you the reason for this. I am talking about that only. When this paper was leaked, talking about that only. When this paper was leaked, ethanol was provided to Rubika. No, not at all. no way. Could

[10:50] not reach. Let me answer your question. Then you ask your question back. I am saying again that whenever this matter of NEET paper came up, the first priority of the government was to not let the future of the students be spoiled by making the reed in any way.

[11:05] improvements are taking place later, you should see the National Education Policy. After that, Policy. After that, made it. Wherever the students had demanded to come to Jantar Mantar in a democratic manner, that is why

[11:19] I am stopping you because Pawan Khera has also come. What are you saying after hearing in front of the media for the first time after your resignation? At he was ridiculed. Then there was silence. Then the reels started coming at 12:00 at night.

[11:36] Then there was silence. Then the reels started coming at 12:00 at night. Then they became friends. But we saw their pride being shattered one by one every day. But we saw their pride being shattered one by one every day. One by one, one by one. And today its

[11:50] One by one, one by one. And today its result was that Dharmendra Pradhan was fired from his job. But as I told you But as I told you today Rahul ji said a very important thing in many

[12:04] today Rahul ji said a very important thing in many ways that Narendra Modi is the past. The fight is for the future. Narendra Modi is the past. We are fighting for the future of this country. And the sad thing is that this

[12:22] And the sad thing is that this past is destroying the future of millions of people as it goes away. And I am saying that it is going because the sound of it going is being heard. This is the beginning of the end.

[12:36] Priyanka ji also released a video. He said this very beautifully in it. This said this very beautifully in it. This is the beginning of the end. You called us friends in the reel at 12:00 at night,

[12:54] Modi ji, do not consider you their friend. You have not earned their friendship. They do not treat you as a friend. If you were a friend, you would If you were a friend, you would

[13:11] not have showered sticks and bullets on these children like this. If you were a friend, yesterday you saw a young man standing with Rahul ji outside District 10. You saw all the marks of pet guns on his body. If you were my friend, I would n't have fired these pet guns. And if he were a friend, he would

[13:28] not have tolerated Pradhan for so long. Would have shown the way out immediately. Let the Parliament function. There would be discussions there. There would have been a positive discussion. You are not a

[13:41] friend of the youth of this country. No matter how much you say you are not.

[13:55] Rahul ji put forward those demands on every platform. One of those demands has been fulfilled today. That on every platform. One of those demands has been fulfilled today. That

[14:09] symbol is gone. That symbol is gone. But it is But it is necessary to fix responsibility for the violence that took place on July 20. Accountability has to be fixed for the violence that was unleashed on the youth of

[14:22] the violence that was unleashed on the youth of our country on the 20th of July. The Prime Minister, who is now moving ahead with his friendship, and I was very surprised to see this today.

[14:36] So brother, now this competition for credit will come. This is clearly visible here. That being said, this is a victory. But this is the victory of our Rahul Gandhi. Rahul Gandhi ji had made the demand. Now we also have this demand. This is amazing. Nitin Navin has also

[14:51] posted a post at this time. Let me introduce you to that post. Nitin Navin, the National President of Bharatiya Janata Party, says that the

[15:03] matter is over, let it go, he writes that Union Education Minister Shri Dharmendra Pradhan played a pivotal role in reforming India's education landscape, that is, he is praising Nitin Navin and he is saying that now I

[15:17] give you my best wishes, you have done very good work and taken many strong decisions. Anyway, let us come back to this issue. Mr. Pankaj.

[15:30] Pawan Khera ji is saying that this has happened because of Rahul Gandhi ji. So the CJP was happened because of Rahul Gandhi ji. So the CJP was So look at the entire student community of the country,

[15:45] our youth. Their collective meaning is that Rahul ji is also being added to that youth or not? Listen to the whole thing. This is Listen to the whole thing. This is not the victory of any Abhijeet or any Sonam Manchuk. It would be a mistake to

[15:59] consider this a victory of Rahul Gandhi or the opposition. Yes. It is right that Rahul ji, Congress and the entire opposition raised the voice of our youth in the Parliament.

[16:14] He stood firmly in support of the youth in the Parliament complex and on the streets outside it. it had to retreat. But this victory is the victory of the entire youth of the country. It is not the victory

[16:29] of any CJP, any Congress, any Kejriwal. One Kejriwal. One more thing, but this is the personal defeat of Prime Minister Narendra Bhai Modi.

[16:45] Whatever has happened to us is good. Obviously, this will and should yield positive results. But now the group of worshippers has started chanting that

[16:57] look how sensitive our Prime Minister is. See how completely connected he is. It is beneficial for the youth. That's why Narendra Bhai has taken this decision.

[17:09] Narendra Bhai has not taken this decision because of Rubika ji. He took this decision despite his ego this decision despite his ego , despite his insensitivity,

[17:21] which is his indifference towards everything. I do n't know why you all are looking so excited about all these things, Pankaj ji, all the big dialogues you all are delivering. There are big dialogues like this is his victory, that is his victory. Understand? I understand?

[17:35] Because you made something happen which was not possible before today. But I am saying who are you? You got it done. You made me kiss. You got it done or CJP got it done or you got it done, it means who got it done or Samajwadi Party got it done.

[17:50] You are saying that we will take this collective credit. But before I really Gupta probably wants to say something. Yes Rohan ji, this is ego. He

[18:02] saying it again. Yes, my point remained incomplete. Yes, when you and I were talking, it is

[18:14] Who attacked the student at Jantar? Students protested here and there. Today Pankaj ji is saying not belong to him. There was division of property in that too. So, when the students were sitting for 22-23 days, 25 days, no Congress leader went there. The day you both are

[18:29] not connected to the camera with us, if you speak over each other then it will not be audible. Pankaj ji, yes I will give you 20 seconds to rebut, there is a panic in this Pankaj ji wait your voice is getting cut then what is the use, I understand nothing, no one will understand the logic,

[18:43] after what he said you correct it, correct it, I will give you 20 seconds, matter is this simple, the matter of division of shares, I said it is a victory of democracy, today the students felt it was the demand of the students, the government felt that we have to correct the entire system, there can be a

[18:58] difference between the two, the government handled this issue sensitively, today the credit for the division came to be taken, when Pankaj ji said that no, this is not of the students, this is as much as of one person, collectively understand one thing, you understand one thing, this is about credit, so let's

[19:11] go and later these people will settle the issue among themselves, this is not a new thing, it has been happening before also, this is the second word that you heard, this is the defeat of ego. He is saying that this is PM Modi's personal defeat. You should answer them on this.

[19:27] I will definitely answer. There is no defeat because if there was ego then Modi ji would if there was ego then Modi ji would Sonam Vanchhuki's fast would not have ended like that. They do not accept the demand. If there was

[19:41] arrogance then the government would not have sat with the students and talked to them. If there was ego then the demands made by the students would not have been made. It is not a matter of pressure. The democratic movement that took place at Jantar Mantar. Does not a matter of pressure. The democratic movement that took place at Jantar Mantar. Does

[19:53] somehow chased away people from Jantar Mantar by beating them? Now I, now I, 20 seconds Pankaj ji, 20 seconds and then I, one of my guests, have not been able to speak yet, Aziz Bhai, one of my guests, have not been able to speak yet, Aziz Bhai,

[20:06] it quickly became clear that the longer the agitation continued, the more the government would be weakened, hence, to continued, the more the government would be weakened, hence, to decision and one thing was that he remained adamant till 20th July, but on 20th July, when the

[20:21] scenes of brutality of Delhi Police came to light, the and had to make a video and issue a message at 12:00 in the night,

[20:35] make a video and issue a message at 12:00 in the night, Pankaj ji, one strange thing comes up, first you say that the PM does not listen to the RSS, you say that the RSS and the PM are you say that the RSS and the PM are

[20:49] RSS got angry and what did PM sahib do after that, that selfie thing, he did the after that, that selfie thing, he did the new way of coming on YouTube and Instagram, new way of coming on YouTube and Instagram,

[21:03] listen, when Thahaani did not resign, then you said look this government is over now, then today when Dharmendra Pradhan is resigning, how much water has flown in the Ganga in the meantime, even then you kept saying the same thing, now you are saying that the

[21:16] countdown has started even today, so decide one by one when will the countdown actually start ? The countdown has started today. The countdown has started long ago. It started a long time ago, since 2014. This is not it, from 2024 onwards, this is the final chapter being

[21:31] written. Some are left in the last page. quickly, and then Aziz Bhai. Look, people are not able to understand where the I want to tell my elder brother Rohan ji that by giving an analogy, the analogy will immediately hit your

[21:47] giving an analogy, the analogy will immediately hit your bull's eye. If Shiv Sena and Congress have the bull's eye. If Shiv Sena and Congress have the same demand from the government, then whom will you call to listen to their demands? It's a simple matter. Will you listen to Shiv Sena or Congress

[22:02] ? 99 out of 100 people will have logical rationale that if both have the same demand that if both have the same demand then we will listen to those who are our friends and who support us. This is the problem you people have created. This demand that was coming was

[22:16] coming from the right winger. But you did not listen to them. I heard he hates you. They want to remove Modi, remove BJP, remove treaties.

[22:28] You are feeling happy today after listening to him. I am not able to understand this. Look, brother is talking to Rohan ji. Yes, this was a reference to Rohan ji. But Rohan ji, before you answer that. Aziz Bhai, you are on cloud nine, something like this universe is visible behind you too.

[22:44] you are on cloud nine, something like this universe is visible behind you too. Where from? It is like this Robika ji, you were also saying Yes. So this universe has been placed behind.

[23:00] So this universe has been placed behind. Yes. For God's sake, don't say this is a victory for the entire universe [laughs]. So the people who are living in this universe, their feelings

[23:14] [nasal sound] their feelings win [laughter] you talked about the universe, so what should I say? I can understand that what you could not do, CJP did it and you are forcibly happy with it and going away. Don't get

[23:28] you are forcibly happy with it and going away. Don't get dear brother, this is the victory of the universe. Look, look, Rubika ji, tell me one thing. Look, it is not a question of victory or defeat here.

[23:45] Look, it is not a question of victory or defeat here. Honorable Modi ji could not recognize the pulse of the country due to his ego. truth is what were those children asking for? Who were those children? Those children were our children and your

[23:58] Who were those children? Those children were our children and your children. He did not even try to understand his emotions and feelings. Sitting for months. You know what you are saying ? It is a master stroke. It was a master stroke in the farmer's case. The

[24:13] master stroke was also there in the farmer's one. Now another master stroke has happened. He us see, you should know one thing. Whenever such

[24:25] situations arise, the sentiments of the country will not be understood. Alright Aziz Bhai, please keep taking this credit now. There is an

[24:37] important question for me now that the CJP is sitting at Jantar Mantar, Jagdish ji, Aziz ji, Pankaj ji is sitting at Jantar Mantar, Jagdish ji, Aziz ji, Pankaj ji and Professor Ranganathan, I am asking the same question to all four of you. I will come quickly one by one, Aziz Bhai, first you tell me, yes first

[24:50] you tell me what the CJP should do now, their demands are increasing, now they are saying that CRP should also apologize, the policemen should also apologize, now this should also happen, tomorrow they will say that unless more powdered coconut is not added in the coffee,

[25:06] we will not leave from here. This is the demand. Now it will continue to increase. This is the demand. Now it will continue to increase. to you, let me speak Aziz Bhai, see, Rubika ji, Modi ji had made the same mistake

[25:20] earlier, he could not understand, he will make the mistake again, this is what I am saying, is the demand that CJP is making right now wrong, how innocent children of 18, 18,

[25:32] 19, 2020 years were beaten with sticks, how they were mistreated, how they were tortured, their demand is wrong. Shouldn't those children who have been killed, or those who killed them, be punished

[25:46] Otherwise, no action will be taken against Aziz Bhai, listen to me or not. and when such situations became a little sensitive due to law and order situation, did

[26:01] your police never use lathi charge? Keep your hand. Put your hand on that red pocket and tell me that as long as the new Rubika Liaquat SP government was in power, the police did not have sticks in their hands. We never used sticks. Listen, our government was not so cruel. She was

[26:17] not that cruel. Please listen to me. Hey listen, you listen, this is not true. No, no, I am listening. Hey, I am listening but I am not able to swallow it. I am not listening to your lies. Hey, look, one thing will not happen like this. The way

[26:30] girls were treated, boys were treated, young men were treated. Perhaps history is lost, since the country became independent, perhaps no one has done this. Even the British would not have done this. Listen to me. This is the truth.

[26:45] Truth is used more for Modi than for the other. Listen to him saying this. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that it wasn't brutal. No one can tolerate what the police did to the girls, hitting them with sticks on their private parts and

[27:00] pushing them. Ok. But don't pretend that this has never happened before in history. We have had many debates on police brutality,

[27:13] sir. Have had many debates. And this is not the first time. And the entire system will have to reform itself. How to deal with protesters? This could be a huge debate. But don't say this

[27:28] But don't say this in Nirupa Roy style that I have never seen this kind of atrocity before, Rupika ji, no, this is a lie. Rupika ji, no, this is a lie. In your own government, we have your own police, the one

[27:41] whom you consider closest to your heart these days, Mukteshwar Anand ji. Mukteshwar Anand ji. fired bullets at the car servants instead of using sticks. You were the people and this had never happened before in history. Let me go here and there.

[27:58] here and there, we are talking about police action. Hey listen, you yourself said that this has never happened before in history. So is this history or not? Now I am saying that if

[28:11] No, not a long debate. Let's make it smaller. Let's make it smaller. You don't shorten the debate, do you? Let's make it smaller. You said that

[28:25] tell me, was beating Mukteshwar Anand with sticks and rods history or not? You should know one thing, Ruka ji. If any kind of protocol atrocity was committed against him, If any kind of protocol atrocity was committed against him,

[28:40] And this attitude was not shown. There was no pride in the servants. Was that history or not? No ego. There was no ego. Was No ego. There was no ego. Was firing on servants after going personally and apologizing

[28:53] history or not? The person who fired the shot is sitting in my lap. Why are you not understanding this? Who fired the shot? He was sitting on my lap. Listen sir. Who fired the shot? Who was his DM?

[29:06] Listen, listen. Listen, listen to me. You should not say this. Then how are you bringing Modi's ego into the picture? You are saying that the person due to whom this has happened is sitting in his lap, then the connection is not getting set, the connection is not getting established,

[29:18] leave this gentleman alone at your time, let him be, but at others' time, all of us come together in the assembly, this does not happen, now Jagdish ji, tell me whether the students sitting at Jantar Mantar should end their protest, their movement or

[29:33] not and before I ask you this question, let me tell you one more big news. Rahul Gandhi has tweeted some time ago. Posted on X and Rahul Gandhi, while posting on X, has said on the resignation of Dharmendra Pradhan that

[29:50] said on the resignation of Dharmendra Pradhan that this is a victory. However, now when it comes to credit, obviously everyone is trying to take it. But some time ago this tweet of Rahul Gandhi has come and he is saying that this is the victory of all of us. After Dharmendra Pradhan's

[30:09] resignation, Rahul Gandhi is saying that Dharmendra Pradhan's resignation is a big step towards rebuilding our education system. Well done Well done students across the country, we are proud of you all. Many congratulations to every youth and every student who came out on the streets and

[30:24] students across the country, we are proud of you all. Many congratulations to every youth and every student who came out on the streets and demands are still pending. The Prime Minister should apologize, respecting the students and the future of India,

[30:37] are still pending. The Prime Minister should apologize, respecting the students and the future of India, and action should be taken against those responsible for the violence against the students. It is

[31:06] rebuilding our education system. It is a symbolic step because it was a symbol but it is still a big step and I want to congratulate every single student, every single youngster who came out on the streets and fought for democracy, fought for the

[31:22] future of this country and defended the Constitution. I am proud of you, well done. It is also a signal to other parts of society, farmers, labourers, poor

[31:34] people, anyone whom this regime is attacking and oppressing. There is wisdom and courage in standing up. Don't be afraid. Let's get rid of this regime. This regime that is attacking

[31:46] India, destroying our Constitution, capturing all our institutions. Let me remind the government. There are still two demands outstanding, the first one and the most important one, anybody who has pointed a finger

[32:00] at our students, beaten them, shorted them, has to be held accountable, people who have organised it, people who implemented it all have to be punished and the final demand is

[32:12] that the Prime Minister of India, out of respect for the students of India, out of respect for the future of India, has to apologize to the students who were to apologize to the students who were brutalised in the attack. Thank you. Jai Hind.

[32:27] So you heard Rahul Gandhi at this time. He is calling it a victory for all the students and Amit, my colleague, is also involved at this time. Amit Devendra Fadnavis has been called. Amit Devendra Fadnavis has been called. Some speculation is rife. No no,

[32:45] if any leader moves towards Delhi, then 10 kinds of things will come up because even before this, many kinds of things were coming up about which minister is being removed and which minister is being made a minister. made the Education Minister. But at present

[32:58] Devendra Fadnavis has left for Delhi and the information coming in is that this is already there. Although there was news in between that Eknath Shinde was also coming but there is no news of Eknath Shinde coming. Devendra Fadnavis is coming but it is being said that

[33:10] he has a meeting with Amit Shah. There is discussion regarding some government work. I had a conversation with him at his place. So he said that he already had So he said that he already had a schedule and he was supposed to

[33:22] reach Delhi this evening. However, this big incident happened during this time. Brother, as a development, you can see it as a political development that Dev Ah De Dharmendra Pradhan had to resign. But during this time, during his arrival from Mumbai to Delhi, many kinds

[33:36] of speculations and many kinds of rumours are going on in the political corridors. But sources are saying that at present he has no connection with the Union Cabinet. He is no connection with the Union Cabinet. He is

[33:51] But now the big question is, Amit, who will become the next Education Minister?

[34:03] think along with this, there are all the speculations that there is going to be a reshuffle in the cabinet, so now we have to see whether an official responsibility will come this evening or by tomorrow as to who will be an official responsibility will come this evening or by tomorrow as to who will be

[34:19] decided after the cabinet reshuffle. But at present, since the minister has resigned from this ministry, the But at present, since the minister has resigned from this ministry, the to some Union Minister. So now it will be important to see which Union

[34:32] Minister will currently get the responsibility of the Education Ministry. This will also be an important move which will tell because if you see, when the Prime Minister spoke to the students at midnight and after that many steps were taken so that all the systems from NTA to

[34:48] NEET exam can be improved, all the steps were taken but who will be that face, this is a very big and important question Amit, meanwhile see the pictures have also started coming, you see Saurabh Das and Ashutosh Raka

[35:05] you see Saurabh Das and Ashutosh Raka talks are going on there in the Constitutional Club. Now it remains to be seen that among these demands, the most important demand was that of resignation of Dharmendra Pradhan. Now what

[35:20] next, what does he say after coming out? Now the government is saying that you should end your movement. Does this movement end here? Or now an attempt is made here to choose the path ahead. Because Amit, from here we will have to see

[35:37] what is the next course of action of Jantar Mantar and also of CJP. No, I think this movement will end by this evening or tomorrow. not that big because the biggest demand, regarding which there was a huge deadlock, was the

[35:52] demand, regarding which there was a huge deadlock, was the two demands that were there before this have already been asked. Today, a new thing has come up regarding the action, I think somewhere or the other, there will be an explanation between the two and in this

[36:05] meeting that will be taking place today, I feel that the government will tell them government will tell them tried to hijack the movement that was going on for your students. How people from outside are getting involved in it and what is the consequence of this is

[36:19] that the rioters create riots and the lathi charge is falling on the youth. is affecting the students. So the government will also explain that your demands have been accepted. The biggest demand accepted was that when the movement started, Rubika,

[36:33] you will remember that there was only one demand. The demand was that Dharmendra Pradhan should resign. After this, gradually the demand increased from one to two, two to three and three to four. So this meeting was necessary. But now after this meeting, is this the most

[36:47] important question? Himanshu Tiwari, my colleague, is constantly present there outside the Constitutional Club. They are keeping an eye and we would also like to know from them what kind of talks take place next? Is this the last meeting? Even after this, a meeting

[37:01] is held regarding the demands. What assurances are given by the representatives who have come from the government on behalf of these two representatives government on behalf of these two representatives that your biggest demand has been met. Whatever happens now will happen

[37:15] in Parliament. Jagdish ji, now I will come back to that question. CJP, his movement Jantar Mantar, do you see the future at this time? Just 30 seconds of Jagdish ji, look Rubika ji,

[37:31] Rubika ji, I think, Rubika ji, I think the public has lost faith in Modi and the Modi government. He has just resigned but it has not been accepted yet and there were two more demands, action should be taken against those policemen who have tortured the sisters and daughters

[37:45] and all the false cases that have been filed should be removed, if this ends now then those too will be put on the back burner, sir, there is no need to trust the government much, hmm, it means there is no faith in the government anymore, Anand, this is what is being said again and again that the

[38:01] countdown has begun. There is no trust in the government anymore. This is just a glimpse. This has been happening since 2014, from May 16, the day Modi took oath, that the countdown has begun. If such a long countdown starts then the rocket may not launch. Look,

[38:16] I want to talk about your second question. And then I want to tell you through an analysis. You are a news reporter. You reported a news story. It went very well. Will you stop ? Was that your first and final

[38:30] news report? No, right? These are career activists. He formed a party called CJP. Made a point that was previously made by right wingers. The government listened to them. Will these be closed? no way. Now the

[38:49] This is an analogy. So this is not going to stop, Rubika ji. Otherwise, do you think that he will remain at Jantar Mantar and keep sitting there? Either he will remain at Jantar Mantar or will become a part of some party. It is also possible that

[39:01] Rohan ji might know this. It is possible that he may become a part of BJP. He'll tell you this [laughter]. become a part of BJP. He'll tell you this [laughter]. both famous and infamous for this thing. Both are there.

[39:16] I think that if there is a Guinness Book World Record for the world's largest countdown, then when will it be made in the name of Congress, that they have decided on a countdown of at least 15 years. See, what was the statement made by Rahul Gandhi today

[39:29] ? There was a question of credit somewhere. Look, the students protested. The government accepted their demands, which is what happens in a democracy, the government has to accept the demands of the people, Nor am I seeing anyone losing. Neither am I looking for victory. This

[39:44] is a learning. This is a sensitive issue. There should be no politics on this. But the question is being raised in the opposition, Rubika ji, who are doing their politics with the help of the shoulders of these students. If there was seriousness in his words, then when the students were sitting at Jantar Mantar for 23 days, so many

[39:57] Congress leaders would have gone and sat there. Now that their demand has been fulfilled, Congress is making two more demands after getting its demand fulfilled. This politics cannot continue. Let's talk about credibility. There should be seriousness in the matter. If there is

[40:09] no politics in the issue then the public is with you and the government is also with you. But when you bring politics into the issue, when you Well, tell me who will decide how serious the issue is? He is saying this.

[40:23] Just now Aziz Bhai was saying that the brutality with which the police beat the children with sticks. I am amazed at the way they used their sticks on the girls. Is that issue serious or a joke? Absolutely, absolutely. Now if you look at it,

[40:38] I am talking about a different thing in a different way. I was asked good questions whenever the Congress party talked about the resignation of the Prime Minister, when BJP was in Congress government in Rajasthan, BD Kalla was there, 17 papers were leaked, the

[40:52] party did not resign at that time and Gupta, both of them were on the screen, please yes, I am asking the same question to you again that when

[41:06] resignation did not happen, wait Jagdish ji, answer quickly, You should know what kind of India you have made. If you had stayed for a few more days,

[41:21] you would not have left the house. You created such a situation that you were breaking the sticks and throwing them away. I have asked you, hey brother, please answer me. Hey brother, when we did not give it, you came and sat in the opposition. You had come, so everything will be done.

[41:33] You had come, so everything will be done. but you came after lying, so what have you done, tell me what Jagdish ji, Rohan ji, I am short of time, overall what is the biggest news, the big news is

[41:48] that Dharmendra Pradhan has resigned, now you keep sitting at your places and saying that it has been taken because of us, it has been taken because of us, I will tell you because of whom it has been taken, this is the power of the Judge, she is adamant, resignation is in front of stubbornness, today the Judge is

[42:03] saying the right thing that yes, we are stubborn. But now the next two questions are what will happen at Jantar Mantar? And the second question is who will be the next Education Minister? We are also keeping an eye on this big meeting. We will be back soon, keep watching Times Now

[42:18] Navbharat. Thank you all so much for joining