Discord Threw It All Away - WAN Show February 13, 2026

[00:08] Welcome to the W show. We got a great show for you guys this week. Of course, show for you guys this week. Of course, the big news is Discord requiring facial scans for age verification. Oh man, you can you can tell how

[00:24] passionate the writing team is about a particular topic when you see how many they created for it. JORDAN IS LIKE, I AM GOING to very thoroughly talk about why this is very upsetting.

[00:39] Yeah, we're going to be getting into that. Also, oh man, we had we we had the other huge privacy nightmare. Did Did anyone watch Rings a Super Bowl, lad?

[00:51] anyone watch Rings a Super Bowl, lad? Cuz I did. Yeah. Yeah. Not looking good. Okay. What else we got? Luke, find me some good news. You got the good news, >> Modern standby won't drain your battery anymore.

[01:06] anymore. >> Maybe possibly. Uh, and yes, Slaps is already mobilizing to try to look into it. Um, because part of the question here is, has anyone else verified this? Uh, so we're going to try. It's It's

[01:20] going to be difficult to conclusively verify, but we're going to try. Um, also, let's see. I have a machine that definitely is very often on in my backpack. So, uh it's it's a it's a

[01:33] chronic offender. So, maybe we could uh maybe we could work together. >> In other great news, Mr. Beast just bought a banking app. >> You picked that? >> Yeah.

[01:49] >> What could go wrong? >> Just roll the intro.

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[02:45] back hard. All right, why don't we why don't we jump right into our first topic today, which is of course the big news from Discord. Discord announced that it will start rolling out age verification globally beginning in March, just 5

[03:02] months after a breach from a third-party age verification vendor exposed the age verification vendor exposed the government IDs of around 70,000 Discord users. I don't think the timing for this could

[03:16] I don't think the timing for this could be a lot worse. Um, well, no, could have been just 4 months after a breach, but I think you understand what I mean. The platform is going to automatically configure all user

[03:32] automatically configure all user accounts for what they're calling a teen appropriate experience unless those users are proven to be adults. Now, it is worth noting that apparently not everyone is going to have to submit uh

[03:49] everyone is going to have to submit uh proof of being an adult, but the way that they get, you know, non-user submitted proof of your adulthood is not going to make you a lot happier than submitting the proof. All right.

[04:04] >> First, let's talk about what happens with users that are not verified adults. uh they will not be able to access age restricted servers or channels. They won't be able to speak on stage channels. They will see content filters

[04:21] for anything Discord decides is graphic or sensitive. They will see warnings about friend requests from users they might not know. I mean, honestly, that's might not know. I mean, honestly, that's fine. Um and will have DMs from

[04:34] unfamiliar users go into a separate inbox. Frankly, those last two should just be platformwide. I'll die on that hill. DMs from friends and interactions on non-agger restricted servers will operate as they always have. Users with

[04:51] servers will have those sur Oh, this is wild. Will have those servers content obfiscated until they pass age verification checks.

[05:07] feel like I Okay, part of me wanted to wait until the end of going through the but I feel like I just have to jump in right now. >> The craziest part of this is they didn't have to do this.

[05:21] There were some jurisdictions that are pushing for stronger child safety measures that are that are putting pressure on on social media platforms, including Discord, to put these kinds of checks in place.

[05:33] checks in place. But then they didn't have to roll it out globally. And we've seen this before. Sometimes it's a huge benefit to a to a to a user base. You know, when Apple gets a bunch of pressure from the EU to

[05:47] use USB type-C, guess what? We get USBC iPhones everywhere. >> So sometimes this works out really great. But this is software. So there was no real reason other than maintaining two forks, I guess, that

[06:00] any thoughts on this as someone who you know has led a couple of software teams now currently? >> Yeah, I mean I wouldn't want to touch this at all ever. Um and like they talk about how they I I I think this is maybe

[06:16] haven't gone through all of it yet, but um they they talk about how they're then they also >> talk we'll get into that. I just mean forks? Can you give me a reason why they would roll this out globally when a lot

[06:30] of the world is not putting any pressure on them to do this? >> Um, maintaining the two forks can be really annoying. Uh, and I think they little bit that a lot of different countries are moving in this direction.

[06:45] >> I mean that's fair. That's that's fair. The momentum is really building. I can't believe how quickly we went from >> Everyone kind of agrees that >> Oh, no. I I was going somewhere else. Like social social media is like really

[07:01] >> And then like >> sometimes legislation can seem to move are, you know, minor >> phones right now. It's moving pretty >> moved pretty fast. It really did. Yeah, >> it

[07:25] Speaking to the Verge, Discord's global head of product policy stated that, and this is a quote, for most adults, age verification won't be required. weren't necessarily going to like how they were doing that?

[07:42] She went on to explain that Discord's age inference model uses account information such as tenure, device, and activity data and highlevel patterns to

[07:54] attempt to determine the user's age range. So, uh, I guess I'm safe because range. So, uh, I guess I'm safe because I still use GIFs, which are apparently >> Oh, and you call them that, >> which means you're obviously

[08:10] ancient. Uh, so you're you're good. You're in the clear for sure. Uh, >> if the system is unable to infer a user's age, the user will be prompted to take a video selfie for facial age estimation. Discord claims the video

[08:26] won't leave your device, but as many commenters noted, that does not mean commenters noted, that does not mean that your biometric data is safe. Alternatively, you can submit a scan of governmentissued ID along with a selfie

[08:41] as definitive proof of age. Age will be apparently estimated using the KD tool from Swiss-based vendor privately. Discord claims images of documents are deleted. In most cases, immediately after age

[08:56] confirm. What does in most cases mean? >> Why would it not be in all cases? And they also claim they don't keep the information from the ID. Um, which, you know, you tell a community like Discord that, oh, oh yeah, we're going to, you

[09:10] it and we're going to delete it probably immediately and it'll totally be fine. know, pulling at every loose thread they can find. Um, so some Discord users posted on Reddit saying that policies for K and privately don't exactly line

[09:25] >> I also think this is actually outofdate information. Oh, >> I flip plane chat got me going down a path and then I started googling some things and it sounds like they've swapped out the K plan.

[09:39] >> Um, and they're know they're now going down, they didn't do a like roll it back situation. They just switched partners and now they're working with a company called Persona. And people in flow plane chat, I have not verified this yet, are

[09:53] chat, I have not verified this yet, are saying that Persona is owned by Peter Teal. Um, >> so wait, this is out of date, but not in way. >> Oh, no. Like potentially worse. Yeah.

[10:07] >> Yeah. >> No, Discord. Why? >> Why? You were for an actual fairly extended period of time. >> Persona in the UK as an experiment. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I there's there's

[10:20] some stuff going on here. I'm not 100% sure what it is. U there's a Reddit thread from 11 hours ago. Like this is very new. Um Discord has assured its users that it is using K for its facial age estimation. This is a bait and

[10:35] age estimation. This is a bait and switch. Uh K is an ondevice zero knowledge proof. It can scan your face and the K runs an assessment model that sounds pretty all right. Discord only receives a token. that say blah

[10:48] blah blah blah blah. That sounds not too bad. Persona is a corporate partner of Palunteer, a spying surveillance company that blah blah blah blah blah. They within minutes usually, but they retain the embeddings. The embeddings are

[11:01] machine readable portion of your face or ID something something. Discord has ID something something. Discord has promised K I but is giving us persona. >> Um, this is all relatively new.

[11:14] >> Okay, so I don't know about all this. Here's what we can say definitively. We Here's what we can say definitively. We can say that so far the story from Discord doesn't seem to be firmed up in a way that is making their community

[11:27] >> Yeah, >> I think we can say that. Um, many commenters have mentioned canceling Nitro subscriptions and or moving to other platforms even if they don't get prompted to verify their accounts.

[11:40] long it'll take for Discord to be hit with another breach because of course everybody bets on everything now. Uh this is not financial advice. I would not get involved in that personally. Um, commenters have also brought up um some

[11:57] commenters have also brought up um some pretty uh well I've um a pretty familiar everything crowd and the privacy advocates reminding us that um while there can be benefits to people using real names. I you know okay this is

[12:14] pretty early in the show for me to say something this controversial but I appreciate or at least appreciated before it was so full of spammers the real identity element of Facebook marketplace it was a

[12:28] lot easier to navigate knowing that for the most part these were real people >> now it's just scammers anyway they seem to have kind of overcome it so there have been there has been at least one time when I personally enjoyed and

[12:42] appreciated that element of a web service. Um, but it's worth reminding even the people who do enjoy that vibe that online privacy can be a literal

[12:54] life and death issue sometimes. Um, and even when it's not life and death, many their identities as explained by Redditor Radio Active Truth. This is a quote. Am I really going to associate my legal name with the PTSD groups that I'm

[13:09] safe for work. So I would need to be age verified. Um be to the hundreds of members there to have to put our legal names on experiences that scarred us? Right? Like there's so many perspectives. There's so

[13:25] many ways that people use the internet and and connect on the internet that and and connect on the internet that rely on not being forced to rely on not being forced to upload a governmentissued ID. Um,

[13:39] upload a governmentissued ID. Um, okay, Luke, go ahead and say it. inevitable. >> Oh, no. I was going to I was I I wanted TeamSpeak, just like you already use Firefox because you're just that cool.

[13:53] >> I I do I do use TeamSpeak, though. Like, I actually do. I Okay, I use an older version of TeamSpeak. I I do think I've lot of people are unaware. So, like, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold

[14:06] >> Is Team Speak the answer, Luke? Is Team Speak the answer? going to be to stay on Discord, which is really sad. Um, I would encourage you to try something else. Now, when we go back to the old great, uh, Ventilo is still

[14:21] to the old great, uh, Ventilo is still showing off uh this this UI. So, okay, people. Mumble >> Mumble >> is still showing off this UI. >> So,

[14:33] lot of people. even though both of them are based. I'm even though both of them are based. I'm just saying. Uh but TeamSpeak is trying. I haven't tried this version of TeamSpeak, but they have like chat

[14:47] TeamSpeak, but they have like chat channels and server browsers and friends lists and chats and like it looks a lot like Discord. I I when the group of people that I joined that was using TeamSpeak um told me they were using

[15:00] then I realized that we're still using like I think TeamSpeak 3 or something. >> Also, someone in chat said, "Teamspeak 6 is just a matrix server with a different UI, which brings up matrix, which is another thing a bunch of people have

[15:14] been talking about. Uh, I had that ready. Thank you. Thank you for priming me on that flow plane chat." Um, matrix is another option uh that people are exploring. Things are built on top of this, which uh I I can't confirm that

[15:27] this is actually just built on top of Matrix, but it I mean that would maybe Matrix, but it I mean that would maybe make sense. Um, but there there are there are other options. I know a lot of people are going to run into this this

[15:41] thing and just go like, well, okay, Discord is the only thing out there. For a weird blip of time, people used Skype. Before then, people used like a huge variety of things. Mumble, Ventilo, TeamSpeak, Xfire, Razer Comms for 4 and

[15:56] I was going to say I mean the show is already brought to you by uh Razer three comms? Isn't the show can be brought to you by Razer coms? you by Razer coms? >> But Discord did fully pull a Amazon

[16:10] Walmart maneuver and effectively kill everything else. So there really isn't much but these things are >> not much with momentum. not not much that has any meaningful sort of user base that they could that they could

[16:24] grow that they could kind of quickly grow from. and I would implore you to at least check them out. Matrix sounds really exciting. Uh there are also I'm not going to name them just cuz the open

[16:37] source people can get a little spicy sometimes. But uh there's been a couple like yeah but Matrix is kind of not great. I've never personally used it but I've heard great things. Lumilia points out that Steam chat has actually

[16:51] >> Steam's gotten way better >> between the time that we actually relied >> between the time that we actually relied on Steam chat quite a bit. Um, and then on Steam chat quite a bit. Um, and then Discord took over and then was dominant.

[17:04] Um, Valve has quietly continued to improve the social experiences of just improve the social experiences of just using Steam. I mean, I don't is not an acceptable replacement for gaming groups in my opinion.

[17:20] Yeah. >> Yeah, that's a tough one. Um, and I don't love the the fact that Steam's social experiences, which still aren't amazing, are baked right into the Steam platform. I want something that is

[17:33] truly crossplatform. Like, okay, yes, they have the mobile app, but like things where if Microsoft and the Xbox team were like on it,

[17:49] They never will. >> If they were dialed, right? >> if they were dialed, this would have >> If they were dialed, they never would have abandoned MSN Messenger. And then

[18:03] now they would just have like a gaming >> version or something. I don't know. They would have some form of way to like tie it into gaming.

[18:17] social networking, social media was going to be cuz they were they were so going to be cuz they were they were so far ahead. They had all the mind share. >> Nothing else mattered other than MSN and Skype which they bought. Like Trillion

[18:31] Skype which they bought. Like Trillion was dead, ICQ was dead, AIM was dead, everything was dead. They were just they were it only show in town. hardest thing will be I think it was Elijah. Um I don't know. I lost it. Uh

[18:46] would be getting whole groups to move. Like I have a server with 1500 people. How do I move everyone? Um >> yeah. No, that's really that's a great >> because you will there will be >> there's also a lot of Discord bots and

[19:01] communities and stuff. >> Um >> I Discord is I think it's free to self-host. I'm pretty sure. Um self-host. I'm pretty sure. Um so like maybe consider that

[19:20] But like I don't know guys. Uh this isn't this isn't it I don't think. I think we're still going to be waiting for what it is, but when you look at the mass of what Discord is, and then you you try to tell me Nitro is fully

[19:34] funding that platform. >> Sorry, bro. There's no way. I don't writers the other day. I forget who it >> but they were they were making the argument to me that, "Yeah, do you have

[19:46] and all that?" And I'm just looking at it going like, it going like, >> I don't think gone I mean we've seen it so many times that I don't know why oh it was Elijah.

[20:02] We've seen it so many times that I don't understand why we keep getting surprised by it. A new service shows up. It's totally free. It's totally way better than anything else that you would probably have to pay for or is free and

[20:18] handful of people that are working on it in their spare time. Like, of course, you've got Mumble up on screen right now. Yep, that checks out. And everyone migrates to it. They get the user base that they keep growing the user base,

[20:31] which allows them to, you know, keep getting access to funding to keep getting access to funding to keep burning money. And then at some point, the piper comes calling and they have to figure out how to make money on it. And

[20:44] they come up with all these ideas and they convert some of the users to paid. But it's it's not enough. I don't think I'm convinced that Nitro is enough. Geek Power points out there are ads in Discord. Yep, fair enough. As someone

[21:00] Discord. Yep, fair enough. As someone who uses it unpaid with no Nitro and pretty solid built-in ad block into my brain, but I have I don't think I've ever seen an ad in Discord. Okay, they bother me

[21:16] about Nitro, but I I just dismissed that. Pretty good. There are cosmetics. I know very few people that have paid cosmetics. There are free ones. I know people that have those. And >> you only need a few whales. You only

[21:28] cosmetics. >> I still think there's going to be just like what happens with basically every platform. I think there's going to be a major um we want to make more money now push at

[21:41] creeping towards it. And maybe it'll just continue to be slowly but yeah. And then the other part is as you acquire all these users, you're you're kind of caught between a rock and a hard place, right? Like you're you're caught between

[21:56] this need to monetize the user base that you don't have because or that you like, "Okay, well, we'll deal with that later." And then you're caught between

[22:08] that and the regulatory burden that exists for extremely large platforms, making. Like if you had a social media platform that had a hundred million platform that had a hundred million users, you're going to be under intense

[22:23] scrutiny. Whether you're making a billion dollars a year or losing a really matter just because you're so influential. Uh Whiskey Nerd points out that the Discord IPO is supposed to be next month in March. That's something

[22:36] next month in March. That's something that's okay. I saw a conspiracy theory that's okay. I saw a conspiracy theory that this is like 4D chess trying to somehow manipulate the public perception towards Discord

[22:51] the only explanation they could come up with for why they would do something this upsetting to their user base right upsetting to their user base right before they go public. But, and maybe

[23:05] this is just me not being, you know, stock marketrained enough, but could stock marketrained enough, but could there possibly be any reason for you to there possibly be any reason for you to want your company to be worth less

[23:18] before you go IPO? I thought you want to juice the I thought you want to juice the valuation before you go IPO. >> Yeah, it's weird. >> Hit me up. Hit come on. Then maybe

[23:30] that's the like Palanteer adjacent push. Um, working with Persona cuz that's a Um, working with Persona cuz that's a that's a weird move.

[23:45] uh, all publicity is good publicity says Advo Cactus Diaboli. Most equities trading is bots. >> Bots don't care about product sentiment. Okay, that's that second part though is an it's an interesting point. But if

[24:00] they bleed users, bots probably care about that a little bit. Tank the initial price, go public, then once you buy a ton, you roll back the bad stuff and go up once you own it. No, because then you wouldn't just you just wouldn't

[24:13] IPO in the first place. You would just keep owning the stock. that's it because >> well see how much people actually care

[24:29] is what this ultimately is going to lead to because like you hear really really loud noises about so many different things gambling uh microtransactions in video games all these different things and then you see

[24:41] the user behavior is to just use it more than ever. Um, yeah. I I I I think I think the ultimate reaction to this is going to be nothing. And that's kind of sad. But I mean, I'm going to go check out,

[24:57] is. See how cool it is. Maybe it's cool. Maybe it's not. Maybe it'll be a real alternative. Maybe it won't be. But I'm interested. >> Okay, cool. That's a pretty depressing note to end that on. But let's get right

[25:11] into uh let's get right into a an update for you guys. Whaleand brought to you by Threat Locker. Do you want to throw the uh schedule up on screen, Luke? Is just one, count them, one week away. We've got an extensive lineup of games

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[25:56] uh Okay, hold on. It only has some of this stuff so far, so don't read out all of this, but it definitely has a super custom Nintendo Switch 2 themed gaming TV setup in the back. So, you can check out the firetruck in person. Um, oh

[26:10] yeah, and we just got confir Oh, no way. Seriously, we just got confirmation today that just like LTX 2023, we will have a custom screwdriver station on site. >> Oh, wa. Really?

[26:25] >> What the heck? >> But that's pretty cool. >> That is cool. >> So, we'll see you guys there. I have I have I ever explicitly said that you and I are going to be there? Like we've

[26:37] we clarify that? >> Oh man, I got my date screwed. I am a spoiler. I am totally going to be there the whole time. Everything's fine. screwed up and I thought that thing that's coming this weekend that I told

[26:52] you about was that weekend and I was like, "No." >> And then figured out that I'm all clear. I'm all good. So, I'll be there. >> Geez, Luke, I was real upset for a moment. Anyway,

[27:07] I was real upset for a moment. Anyway, tickets are available at lmg.gg/whaland. I I got to jump back into something cuz somebody in chat reminded me of

[27:19] uh something I was going to say. Where'd it go? Uh Deep Blue V7 said, "Our our solution have been buckling under all the people signing up. Maybe just temporary, but usually some people stay at least." And that's awesome, and I'm

[27:34] this to come across negative, but something I was planning on saying for this segment was that if like say TeamSpeaks users for example double quadruple, I don't think Discord will even notice. Um the the the the mass

[27:49] that Discord has right now is insane. And one thing that this might help is like your open source project, maybe you guys get bigger and maybe TeamSpeak gets get bigger and maybe they become at least seen as a viable actual

[28:06] alternative. That alone in my opinion would be a huge win. Uh because right now it's it's nothing. People basically just use Discord or nothing. It's it's just use Discord or nothing. It's it's only Discord. Um, so if we can at least

[28:19] normalize that there are alternatives, even if we can't take a real actual sizable chunk out, but if we can just normalize there being alternatives, um, I think that would be awesome. So, just try to keep that in mind. I don't I

[28:34] make a real dent to Discord. Um, but this is a this is a slow war, not a fast one, I think. >> All right. Do you want to pick our next topic? >> Sure. Um,

[28:48] Modern standby won't drain your battery anymore. According to Microsoft, Windows 11 Yeah, according according to Microsoft, can also be used that way. Uh, Windows 11 background processes won't trigger modern standby issues,

[29:00] meaning you'll no longer see excessive battery drain when your machine should battery drain when your machine should be in the uh S0 sleep state. Previously be in the uh S0 sleep state. Previously certain procreesses

[29:14] state without the user's knowledge leading to unexpected battery use. And in many cases it is now stored somewhere that it's difficult for it to breathe.

[29:26] that. And it can also go into really really bad thermal situations. really bad thermal situations. and and and those thermal situations can be exacerbated by the use of say for example liquid metal

[29:41] example liquid metal >> thermal interface material which um when when it's stored in a backpack completely enclosed and the laptop gets super hot for no reason whatsoever and is on its side uh for a extended period

[29:56] stuff. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Uh it can lead to unexpected battery use naturally in a good environment. It can lead to other even worse things in a bad environment. In newer builds, Windows will now try to

[30:11] prevent the PC from waking up. Try uh without the user opening the lid or discussion question is has anyone not employed by Microsoft confirmed this is actually fixed? I don't think anyone's completed testing on this yet. I'm sure

[30:25] other people are and please check theirs out as well, but Labs is going to be is bit. Uh we obviously have other things we're already working on, but this is So hopefully we'll have updates for you

[30:38] there. I'm sure there will be an article if nothing else. Um and yeah, I hope this is going to be something that's relatively difficult to conclusively make statements on. >> Okay, I have a fantastic test system for

[30:53] you. My Elite book that I've been daily driving lately is I would say a solid like one out of eight times um

[31:06] is going to be like piping hot when I take it out of my backpack. And so it comes up for me a lot just because this this is kind of funny. I haven't had a desktop at work for like a year. Uh it was back when I did the

[31:20] Qualcomm Snapdragon 30-day challenge. I I was supposed to be using Snapdragon was supposed to be using Snapdragon issues with my NC

[31:40] back to x86 more recently with a stricks Halo machine. So that that HP I look I I don't know that I would necessarily blame HP for this, but I run into this

[31:53] all the flipping time. And it is so freaking annoying. >> People are very rightfully pointing out that MacBooks don't really have this >> Nope. >> And also pointing out that Linux laptops

[32:06] don't really have this issue. >> Nope. >> Yeah, that's totally fair. >> I mean, hey, we're on >> we're kicking the Linux challenge off, I think, in this next coming week, right?

[32:18] >> Yeah. And I told I told Elijah I want five drives. >> my desktop downstairs, my work laptop, my uh my Oh, my handheld, and then I

[32:35] think there was there was one other one. I was like, I'm I'm doing it, Luke. I'm >> Yeah. >> I'm not going to touch Windows for a month. >> Do we help each other at all?

[32:50] interesting >> like how like >> cuz I think I agree with you but I have some comments >> cuz I I would think you know a very communitydriven

[33:05] initiative like Linux right you would think well yeah community is why not >> part of it right >> yeah and if your community was like Linux noobs you know, who are who are also

[33:21] who are who are also on this journey at the same time. I would say that that is is kosher. I'd say that that's fair game, but I don't think some of the other folks in our cohort would really qualify as a Linux noob and then where

[33:33] to call Wendell? You know, I I feel like for me, I I kind of still want to be me. I'm not going to completely pretend to not know anything because this is not my first kick at the can, but I'm but I'm not going to just

[33:48] leverage the resources that I have. I like I I think Elijah has a line in the of like not everyone has Torvolds on speed dial, right? Like you we can't

[34:01] has to be somewhere in the middle. >> Elijah just trying to flex as per euge. Um yeah, okay, fair enough. I mean, it's a it's a pretty cool flags. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I

[34:15] I'm not sure how this is going to go for me. boring just because you're like dailying it already. >> Yeah. But like I it's it also it hasn't truly

[34:31] been daily because that laptop has had so many hardware issues that it's been bouncing back and forth between getting serviced and coming back to me that sometimes I end up back on Windows for a while and then I go back to running

[34:44] >> uh various versions of of Linux. Linux has never genuinely never been the problem and I have verified multiple times that it happens. I have two drives in the machine now. So I have one for Windows and one for Linux. Um, well, not

[34:58] in half for Windows and Linux and I have a storage drive, but whatever. Um, you know what I mean? And it it Yeah, they they want me to like Windows cuz they just don't believe me. So, it's like, okay, I'm running Windows

[35:14] and I ran into the same problem again. Thank you. Please fix. Uh, and then after I have it for like a little while, um, if I know they're going to repair that's what I want to be using. But I've been like verifying the issues within

[35:27] Windows. Um, and it's a problem in both. It's definitely like hardware issues with the laptop. It has nothing to do with software at all. But, um, so yeah, can't quite say that I've been dailying it, but I have been fairly actively

[35:41] feel pretty comfortable in it, but I'm also not really gaming much on that also not really gaming much on that laptop. Um, I find personally, and I'm anyone out here, but uh, even even a video that I I publicly said I liked a

[35:55] lot, and I do like a lot, >> whenever you see creators do like Linux eyew switch challenges, it's always framed as a challenge. And that always involves doing things that are particularly difficult in Linux.

[36:11] >> I don't even This stood out. Hold on, let me finish talking. This stood out to me because when I switched Linux on my laptop, I just did what I always do and >> All right, >> ever. But everyone always has like a

[36:25] thing. And it's very common that it's creators >> and creators always have to edit videos and this is like a known problem is that >> right? >> So they run into like the editing videos

[36:38] doesn't work." And it's like, "Yeah, okay. Well, that was predictable cuz all the other I switch videos also tried to edit videos and also had problems. So, it's like I Yeah, I I don't know. >> All right, let the record show that that

[36:52] right there was definitive proof that anything can happen once. Luke did in anything can happen once. Luke did in fact get to finish talking. Uh, you're done >> and defend myself. I don't think

[37:05] anything that we tried to do as part of our last I switched was unrealistic or our last I switched was unrealistic or unreasonable

[37:17] edit video. >> Our last I switch was pretty successful >> I mean I had a lot of issues. >> I'm not necessarily saying I had a >> Okay. >> I just like in in general I think the

[37:38] audience to pay attention to the things that, you know, we the three of us or anyone else has actual problems with instead of just their conclusion being that there was some problems with what they were doing. Um, like if they if

[37:51] they play, you know, if you play games that are Proton Platinum and you just run some basic applications and spend the vast majority of your time in a web browser, like

[38:05] an enormously massive percentage of users, then in a lot of cases, you know what? I actually won't say this as a definitive statement. I suspect in fine, but we'll see how it ends up going. Um, yeah.

[38:22] >> Luke's saying there's a negative connotation to challenge that suggests there was a problem. That's part of it, but I I think it's that is definitely part of it, but I also think people put

[38:34] themselves in situations intentionally sometimes. Um, it's like it's like the whole throwing for content thing, right? um you you you put yourself in in situations intentionally that will cause contention and will cause issues because

[38:48] that is insanely more interesting on camera. If I went to explain my laptop experience with Linux on camera, I would sit down and be like, "It was fine. I used a web browser and it was it was f it was fine. I didn't have any problems.

[39:03] I had to Google how to update it and then I went, okay, that's how." And then then I went, okay, that's how." And then I updated it and it was fine. like no you have to like do something. Like they're literally promoting Linux by

[39:16] it's not going to do well at because then at least more people will see the adopt it. Like I'm not going after the creators here to be clear. It's just it's a complicated situation. I just want people to understand that like just

[39:29] because it has problems doing certain things doesn't mean that it will always for one and for two doesn't mean that you're necessarily doing that. Um, like actually editing videos? >> Okay, that is such a that is such a

[39:43] hilarious thing for you to bring up because so much of how we make decisions is totally not based on what we actually

[39:55] do. >> We know from GPU review videos that we >> Oh yeah. And and look at Apple's marketing. how laser focused are they on, you know, on how creative you can be with your

[40:10] iPhone? And there is absolutely a subset of the users that are, you know, going to be, you know, the next filmmakers, you know, the next generation of filmmakers, but there's also a lot of users that are just sitting in Starbucks

[40:25] that's all they were realistically ever going to do on it. They could have had a Chromebook and they would have had quite literally exactly the same user >> Yeah, my phone is largely sold on its camera and 90% of the photos that I take

[40:38] camera and 90% of the photos that I take are of my parking spots. Um, like >> that's the most Luke thing you've said at least today.

[40:50] and it's it's it's where I parked my car at the airport at the airport and that's like it.

[41:03] things that you do and there's certain places that you go that you take a lot you went to that >> and that get away from it all place you went in Taiwan, >> you took a ton of pictures there. Like

[41:16] you were you were behaving like a like a relative I haven't seen in a couple show me? Like it was crazy. >> Uh >> yeah, that's true. >> But other than that, like

[41:28] pull out a phone at dinner and I'm like, "Let's take a picture." Like why? To what end? Yeah, for some reason my brain's like

[41:41] Yeah, for some reason my brain's like people or building? No. Leaf? Yes. >> Rock, yes. I don't know why. >> Parking spot. Triple. Yes. >> Parking spot. Triple. Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Every time.

[41:57] Someone said bird. Yeah, that's true. I have become that guy. what happened. >> I often take photos of birds while while I'll be like, "Yeah, good bird." >> If if I had told you when I met you

[42:11] >> that you were gonna turn into a weird bird dad, you'd have been like, "No, that's stupid. Birds are stupid." >> Yeah. >> They're a waste. You would have been like, "They're a waste of time and

[42:23] >> Honestly. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's still not necessarily untrue, but I do like them a lot.

[42:37] pictures, um, >> Ring, >> Ring is a company that is owned by Amazon and it takes a lot of pictures of your front porch and paid big bucks for

[42:52] your front porch and paid big bucks for a Super Bowl ad to celebrate or announce or whatever, whatever they were trying to do is not what ultimately happened. uh but to promote their search party tool which allows anyone in the US, Ring

[43:07] owner or not, to launch a search for their lost dogs using all the Ring cameras in their neighborhood. Now, hold on a second. Just give me one

[43:19] second here. I can see the look on your face. You know I can see you even though I'm remote, right? Just contain yourself.

[43:33] and who cried multiple tears multiple times over losing multiple pets, I understand the sales pitch here. >> I get it.

[43:47] >> if you're in that moment, if if if 10 minutes ago you recognized that your pet is gone, in that moment, a lot of people are now they don't. Not everyone. Some people will hold true to their their,

[44:02] people will hold true to their their, you know, their line. However, however, this launch coming just a few months after Ring announced a partnership with law enforcement surveillance provider

[44:15] law enforcement surveillance provider Flock Safety >> really >> an immediate and completely predictable >> an immediate and completely predictable response from just everyone. Um, with

[44:28] the EFF calling the feature a surveillance nightmare. Look, surveillance nightmare. Look, if Amazon and Ring was a company that I

[44:40] had any kind of trust in whatsoever, right? Any kind of trust in whatsoever. And they announced this like lost dog And they announced this like lost dog feature. And it was a core part of the

[44:55] design of the product that all of the image recognition was done locally on image recognition was done locally on device and that was opt in and and and

[45:07] it's something that as someone as a pet dad who has has lost a pet that got out um it's something that I I I would crave you know that that I could want.

[45:20] But the last two companies that I could >> Yeah. really >> in administering this are going to be >> in administering this are going to be Amazon and Flock.

[45:33] Dude, Flock has has has demonstrated sort of irre irrevocably. Yes, that's the B. Basically, they could Yes, that's the B. Basically, they could never earn my trust back the way that

[45:48] they have handled security and data privacy. >> Man, Flock and Persona, aka Peter Teal, uh, getting into consumer stuff is not fun. That that being like a

[46:05] primary thread of today's show is not cool. It is worth noting, by the way, that they apparently uh ditched the flock partnership, but like, >> doesn't that just tell us everything we need to know about them? How they choose

[46:20] need to know about them? How they choose their partners? like I don't want to I don't want to be I don't want to be like that. But you know if someone is if someone say for example was married to someone abhorrent

[46:39] um and you know doesn't seem to have a problem with it you know like what what's our what's our nuts? Let's let's use a historical example. Ava Braun or Eva Braun, excuse

[46:53] >> Is that's Hitler's wife. >> Oh, >> I never name. >> Does it not tell us anything about her just how she chooses her partner? It's like, yeah, at some point she cut ties

[47:07] with Hitler or whatever. Well, they kind of both cut ties with the world at the thing. You know, like just because she divorces the guy, does that not still divorces the guy, does that not still tell us a fair bit about him? Especially

[47:21] if the circumstances of cutting ties were because of public pressure. Like, doesn't that just doesn't it still tell us a lot about the kind of decision-m process that's going on behind closed doors? Is this called is this a thing?

[47:36] Zoys or whatever says Godwin's law. Like, is this just like birds of a law? Uh, I'm No, I'm not reading the AI Uh, I'm No, I'm not reading the AI overview. is an internet adage asserting

[47:50] the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches. No. Okay. Very funny. >> I actually thought this was a pretty >> Um, thank you. >> I I just for other people that might be

[48:05] they did. Yeah, they did not divorce. I understand he's doing the comparison >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, he's doing the comparison to divorce here because Amazon and Flock are no longer working together. Um, but yeah,

[48:20] >> and you know what, like Avon Fox in float plane chat points out, okay, what if this person was manipulated or in a relationship due to pressure or that's fair. It's not a perfect analogy.

[48:32] Please. The the point is just that Amazon as a company clearly chose to partner with Flock. Okay. if Lionus Media Group chose to partner with Flock and then you guys got super mad about it predictably and then I said, "Oh, wow.

[48:51] Yeah, wow. That Oh, you guys are so right. We should have never done that. We're We're not doing that anymore. Wow. I'm so glad that Come on. >> has it not? >> And we're not

[49:07] uh Okay. Flock. Okay. I don't think you could draw a direct parallel to anything we've worked with we've worked with brand someone just pointed out anchor. We've worked with brands. Uh someone said Raid: Shadow Legends. Uh we've

[49:21] like, you know what, maybe you guys are right. Let's pull back on that. Um >> but Flock literally like >> No, I agree. The scale is not the same, but I'm just saying like this this can't be extrapolated fully.

[49:35] So you can absolutely make mistakes but in this case I'm talking about partnering with again an abhorrent organization organization that it has complete and utter disregard

[49:49] for user security and privacy in some in in some cases like Rage Shadow Legends never led to anyone being you know falsely harassed by law enforcement or you know Raid Shadow Legends never got anyone they never had anyone one

[50:05] it. Like, let's let's be real here, guys. guys. >> I I think these these two Whatever. I'm trying to use the flock analogy. Um

[50:19] >> I don't know how much they mind it. It It do be Amazon after all. FDC, this is older 2023, but FDC and DOJ charge Amazon with violating children's privacy law by keeping kids Alexa voice recordings forever and undermining

[50:34] parents deletion requests. Um, >> Amazon just do be Amazon at the end of the day. Maybe they're kind of chill with with Flock. Uh, they for raising >> And the other thing is that it has to do with like our knowledge at the time. If

[50:49] we announced a partnership with Flock today when you've heard me on stream talking about the horrible things that they've done and making it clear how horrible I think they are like we I no there's no precedent in LMG's history

[51:03] for anything like that. Like people are bringing up people are kind of trying to sort of poke poke holes in it here. Someone brought up the honey thing. It's that. >> We stopped working with them when we did

[51:15] as we did. like that. That's the difference. Whereas when you announce a partnership with someone that you know is horrible, then it's a completely different situation. April Fool's video idea. Good lord.

[51:34] >> Yeah. >> New new LTD store webcams. Twitter. New Twitter cams powered by flock

[51:57] >> do not do that. You will never recover. And you're so right. The number of times >> dude. The number of times I run up against people who legitimately believe horrible things about me because I joked about it or because I said it in an

[52:14] April Fool's video is distressingly high. high. Like Dwayne Johnson have no lose clauses in their contracts because people will

[52:30] actually watch someone be acting on TV and be stupid enough to think that they're weak because they lost a fight in a movie that they were scripted to >> I I think you can I think you can be comfortable just not caring about those

[52:44] people's opinions, though. I I I think I think that can be okay. Luke, I wish I could rise above. >> I wish that this was an isolated small >> I think you dig pretty hard to find comments sometimes. I think you can't

[52:59] help yourself. >> I same time as it can be true that it is a distressingly large number.

[53:12] distressingly large number. >> Sure. Maybe I should just retire to a potato farm.

[53:24] >> Dang, >> they're pretty good. >> It's hard to It's hard to knock a good potato, dude. potato, dude. >> Dude, a baked potato with some butter

[53:36] and some salt and pepper. You get a bit of sour cream on there. You get a little >> now we're talking. >> Are you salivating, brother? Oh yeah. Potato in almost any form though. Warm potato. Great.

[53:50] >> Great. Cold potato. Warm potato. Fantastic. Fantastic. >> Okay. Hear me out. Hear me out. Okay. Nugget potatoes cold. >> Nugget potatoes cold can be pretty good.

[54:02] Potatoes are great. >> Yeah. Yeah. And not not every not every >> but >> but there are there are good cold French fries. I I I'll die on that hill. I think they're better warm.

[54:15] >> I can't think of a I can't think of a potato that's like even even nugget potatoes. I think they're better warm. >> Potatoes gain a lot from heat. I don't know why, but I think they gain a lot from heat. They're I will give you

[54:28] nugget potatoes like at a like room temperature are probably the best form >> I still think they're better warm. I once accidentally >> potato show >> ate so many room temperature nugget

[54:44] >> ate so many room temperature nugget potatoes that I threw up. I wasn't sick. I just spontaneously was like my stomach is at capacity. I was I was reading. I potatoes >> and and I just

[55:00] >> Yeah. And I just threw up. It was like it wasn't even like it wasn't the sick sickest most like foul throw up ever or anything. It wasn't even that gross cuz I had just eaten all of it and it was just it was basically just potato. Like

[55:14] it was probably still edible. Oh, gross.

[55:27] situation of you just being way too laser focused in on what you're doing to not realize that you've eaten like an entire massive massive bowl entire massive massive bowl >> size of your entire torso thing of of

[55:41] >> size of your entire torso thing of of potatoes and your body's just like bro get it out of here. Yeah. ADHD turned up to 11 someone point. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's all I'm all I'm picturing is just like, wait, I I must keep reading. And

[55:54] also, this hand is just doing this motion for whatever reason. Uh, that's great. Um, anyways, back to evil things. Um, we don't unfortunately get to keep talking about potatoes. Um, yeah, that I

[56:08] mean that sucks a lot. Uh, there are alternatives again, just like in the Discord thing. There are there are alternatives in this range of products. the alternative ends up being more expensive usually. Uh but you can

[56:21] >> I was just going to do it. There are also other alternatives that aren't ubiquity, but >> uh you know in our kind of spaces a lot of people do do be liking ubiquity. Uh >> okay, hear me out. True spec security

[56:34] camera >> uh partnered with Flock. Um >> Yeah. No, but like it's it's effectively going to end up being self-hosting and through something like Ubiquiti or a variety of other products. Um,

[56:47] >> You can do a self-hosted solution. You can have your own cameras. Um, you could share them with with family members. You could uh remotely access them when lot of the same features. You can literally do the like press the

[57:02] doorbell, have a video call thing um just without uh you know, Amazon um watching your every move. It is possible. Hey, it'll cost more, but if

[57:16] there was a company, if there was a company that you didn't have to feel company that you didn't have to feel like you were um you know, helping move us towards a dystopian future, um it would be Creator Warehouse. We have uh

[57:31] we have a lot to talk about this week and the big one is the one that Luke is wearing. Dude, it's kind of covered right now, so maybe if you can give them a better look at it. That thing is so flipping cool. This is it. This is the

[57:47] lawsuit hoodie. This hoodie exists because 3 years of unanswered collab emails felt like a sign to stop waiting for permission and just make this white-on black hoodie that we wanted to make. Anyway, it's made from the same

[58:03] heavyweight 100% cotton as the WAN hoodie. So, it feels thick, premium, and built for daily wear with YKK zippered pockets to keep your things secure. The sleeves feature bold, fully embroidered controller inspired graphics, and

[58:18] there's a small Easter egg on the care label that is optional to read, but the website? >> Okay. Yeah. >> Don't Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[58:30] Let's see if people can figure out Let's see if people can figure out what it was inspired by. I will not confirm or deny because >> Oh, is it in there? >> It's literally the first line of the

[58:43] description. >> Oh, no. That's That's not Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, okay. Never mind. We apparently went full not that subtle. >> Literally, the the brand name is like the third word.

[59:02] cool. Well, okay. We weren't actually concerned about Dbrand in terms of like the look. >> Uh, what we really wanted to do was a hoodie that looked like a thing. >> And then in order to make sure that the

[59:15] problems for us, >> we partnered with Dbrand to use their iconography. >> It's a pretty cool product. the uh some of the other pictures? >> Yeah, I love the Sherrod ones. I think

[59:30] this is Sherrod. Yeah, he's got the the helmet on. These looks >> the Dbrand Ro robot helmet. >> I don't know where they found to do these photos, but these are awesome. I I am continually impressed with the photos

[59:43] is Oh, good. I was hoping there was going to be a good picture of this. The zipper looks sick. It's like blacked out and it has this like copper inner core. It looks so dope. I don't think I've seen that before. Um I think it's Yeah,

[59:57] it's all of them. Even the smaller zippers that are on your pockets have that looks >> It's It seems to be like a spring to kind of like keep it held down. >> Is that what the actual copper bit is

[1:00:10] Guys, that's nice. >> H I don't know. Um yeah, but picture is the b the best one. >> There's a lot of pictures for this. I think they really liked the set that they were at cuz there is there is quite

[1:00:25] there's quite a few. Uh but we will we will keep going through them. >> There's so many pictures. >> There is a ton of photos.

[1:00:37] >> There is a ton of photos. >> Nice. That's a bit of a hint. When we got our first sample of it, >> that photo is sick. That photo is hard.

[1:00:49] Amazing. >> That's dope. >> Yeah. I don't know where the heck they were. That's sick. That's sick. That's probably my favorite one.

[1:01:02] Hell yeah. >> It's um Okay. Do you want to throw us >> This one is dope. Yeah, those are cool. >> It's It's one of those things. I think >> It's It's one of those things. I think this is when our team is is like h see I

[1:01:17] the other things we do but this is the stuff that gets me uniquely excited like this is when I think the team is at their absolute best when they create their absolute best when they create something that is so sort of

[1:01:32] something that is so sort of gamer culture like internet culture referencing and yet is so flipping wearable And if somebody doesn't know what it is, if they don't know that it looks kind of

[1:01:46] like a, you know, game console or if they don't recognize those icons, they're just like, "Wow, cool hoodie." But if they do, you know, it's the if you know, you know. >> And I just I love stuff like that. They

[1:02:02] absolutely Yeah. Yeah. Marchable. They hit it completely out of the park on hit it completely out of the park on this design. Taking

[1:02:15] I again I don't want to whatever lawsuit hoodie go check it out. lmg.gg/lawsuit housekeeping from the warehouse. Uh turns out when you keep making really

[1:02:27] cool new stuff, you eventually run out of space. So we're running three sales right now to clear some space and reset for what's next. There's the last chance sale at lmg.gg/lastchance. gg/lastchance.

[1:02:40] stock that is not coming back once it's gone. At least we have no plans to bring it back. Uh, so no restocks, no reruns, no, oh, I'll just grab it later. This is no, oh, I'll just grab it later. This is later. Get it now. Um, only the bundles

[1:02:53] are end of life. Okay, commuter bag, OG backpack, and techack will live on, but these bundles are going away. This is last chance. Uh, we also have our end of season apparel sale. Clearing out some seasonal styles to make room for new

[1:03:05] designs that are already in the works. Same quality and fit, just end of season pricing while supplies last. That's lg.gg/endofse. more for all blank t-shirts. One blank t-shirt is just not enough. They're

[1:03:20] comfortable, easy to wear, and having a few in the rotation just makes sense. Stock up on blanks at lmg.gg/blank tees. Te e tes. That's the one. Uh maybe Dan, do you want to throw these links in the description in the various chats if

[1:03:35] >> Yeah. All right. Sick. Sick. >> Luke, want to pick a topic for us? >> Uh, sure. No problem. YouTube react videos could face lawsuits, but not for the reason you

[1:03:50] the reason you >> No, we're supposed to explain um uh uh >> I Yeah, I know. I screwed up. >> You told me bigger topic. I know, but I that's when we're supposed to do checkout messages, right?

[1:04:03] >> All right. >> Okay. Uh, wait, where's the thing? Wait, just going to have to wing this. Checkout messages are the way to interact with the W show. We don't want

[1:04:16] do want you to throw money at your screen, but we don't want you to just acknowledgement. We want you to throw money at your screen and get Oh, yeah. Check out check. No, check out messages, comms. Yeah. Okay. They're chat's

[1:04:29] gaslighting me. We want you to get highquality to send a message into the WAN show where producer Dan Are you guys going to throw him up there? Yay, there he is. Nice. Where producer Dan will um just

[1:04:45] top of the frame right now or he'll reply to it or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to. Then all you got to do is head to the checkout on There you go. And you'll see this interface where you can pick a color,

[1:05:00] decide whether to leave your name or have it be anonymous and go ahead and place your order and we'll show you what a curated one looks like. Oh man, I'm so tired, dude. I was snowboarding all day. I'm like dying. That was my best. That

[1:05:12] was the best that I could do just now. Am I super blurry? No, you're just little down there in the bottom, I guess. Cool. You are blurry. It's uh it's focused on the background. Put up

[1:05:26] your hands. >> I'll fix it. >> So blurry. >> Blurry lioness.

[1:05:40] >> Camera's in use by another application. Like, yes, I know. That's the That's why I need to fix it. Seriously, I can't. The Razer app Seriously, I can't. The Razer app doesn't let me change the focus if it

[1:05:55] >> I love technology. How about a merch message? >> Oh, now you're worse. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> we're good. I'm back. >> I'm so back. Okay, Dan, show us how a

[1:06:08] merge message works for crying out loud. >> No, I won't. you how to check out. >> I'll show you how the com works. >> Autofocus is disabled. What is it doing? My goodness.

[1:06:21] >> we're losing them. >> Oh, no. >> Put on your glasses. >> Just saying. >> Okay. >> Hi, W. DLL. I was wondering about how

[1:06:34] you chose the colors of LTD store items. Is there some science to it? Is it purely vibes? And why not just make the same product in more colors, especially apparel?

[1:06:48] Uh, I can answer the more colors part. More colors or more SKUs. Uh, and that certain things, especially when there's a lot of sizes. So, like if you look at um I'm going to bring up on screen our our cleanup wizard t-shirt. So, if we

[1:07:03] added another color here, we don't add one product. We add six products because we add a red one of this in small and medium and large and extra large and extra extra large and extra extra extra large. Um, and you can extrapolate that

[1:07:18] quite a bit sometimes. Like the pants, the pants can be pretty brutal for this. Uh, if I go to, let me go navigate through the store real quick. We have, I'm not worried about you seeing him. U, I'm going to go over to this one, the

[1:07:34] city set. Go to the new pants that we have that are awesome. Now, you have two different inseam lengths, two uh, a crazy amount of waist sizes and color. So you've got all the waist sizes times two times the amount of colors and the

[1:07:49] amount of products that you have to keep in stock just goes whoop. So usually try to keep it kind of dialed down. Now there's a bit of a research portion to these pants on sale. We've got the regular, we've got the tall, we've got

[1:08:04] these all these different waist sizes. If these sell super well, that might inform us that the pants are good and maybe some people might like additional there. But if these just sell like kind of okay, then maybe we don't want to add

[1:08:19] the pants enough but they don't like them enough to have to buy more in a them enough to have to buy more in a bunch of different colors. Uh, so time with this because you can have a bunch of blanks in a range of colors and

[1:08:34] then print the shirts onto the blanks, but then that even that's not like a perfect answer. Um, hopefully I did justice to that question for the CW people. Uh, I know there was another part to that. How do you pick the

[1:08:46] colors? Um, yesesh. There's a very low percentage accurately. Lionus might know decently well, but he has faded into the void. Uh, he's gone. So, I'm going to give it a shot. CW people, I'm sorry if I fail

[1:09:01] you. U, but I think they they look at trends, they look at upcoming trends, they look at general fashion stuff and just try to look at uh the different types of colors that people are into moving forward. Um, and try to keep us

[1:09:15] moving forward. Um, and try to keep us matched with said trends. Now, uh, we do tend to fall into a bit of a category of tech nerd. Uh, and generic tech nerd do

[1:09:27] tech nerd. Uh, and generic tech nerd do tend to like black shirt. Um, so black shirt with printing on it does often end up being a way that we go. Um, but I fun with stuff. They want to have fun jobs. They want you to have more

[1:09:41] every once in a while we get stuff like the pixel heart shirt, which is this >> yeah, I didn't sell >> the teddy fleece jacket, which is pretty that one. >> I really like the RGB sweater. I really

[1:09:56] think people look really sharp in this. Um, I think I've told the story like a what you're showing? >> Um, I can show that now. Um, this is the the RGB sweater. This is a non black. It's actually it's a it's a dark like I

[1:10:11] don't know if you could call it navy, but it's a dark blue with like like basically color flecking throughout it. I didn't know this was our product for a while. Um I sat down at a conference next to Taran and he was wearing it and

[1:10:24] sweater. It looks good on you." I had no clue it was ours. Um >> I think it looks really sharp. Um, I think like when you look like this photo, I think is a really good representation of just like you wear a

[1:10:38] top of it, and you look very professional while wearing a sweater. >> Yep, >> it's cool. stalling. >> No problem.

[1:10:51] >> Hopefully my guesses on those answers were at least decently accurate. >> Okay. >> Yeah. in order to open up the application in order to put it back to manual focus, which it was still on, but

[1:11:04] just all right. I did what I could. week or so ago, and I'm really enjoying it. Lionus talks about JRPGs a lot. Are

[1:11:16] there any other modern ones with some ARPG elements I should check out? Love the show. Thanks, guys. Uh, I'm the last person to go to for game recommendations because I a I tend to be like kind of basic. Like I just play what I know I'm

[1:11:30] basic. Like I just play what I know I'm probably going to like. Um, of games, so I don't really get to go off the beaten path much. Like like what what am I supposed to say? Yeah, Expedition 33 was really good. Did you

[1:11:45] Expedition 33 was really good. Did you really need me to tell you that? like flipping like swept the Game Awards, right? Like it's you don't take don't >> Yeah. >> I I I love Crosscode. It's uh it's

[1:12:03] probably h is it my is it my favorite modern JRPG? >> The characters are so incredible. Um if you haven't played it already, go play style that I'm personally really into. And I just I haven't I haven't played

[1:12:17] that many modern ones. I did finish Expedition 33 since last WAN show. So, can. But Luke hasn't played and I don't think Dan's playing, so there's not other than Yeah, it's really good. Um, without

[1:12:33] getting into stuff that would involve serious spoilers for people in chat and on the show who might actually play it at some point,

[1:12:45] know on the store that we're advertising like the polo and the tech pants together and this this might be me being RGB sweater pilled but I think the tech sweater would go really well together. I'm just going to put that out there

[1:13:00] before we move on. >> Thanks Luke. >> Come to me for future fashion advice. Next topic. YouTube React videos could face lawsuits but not for the reason you think. A lawsuit has been filed between

[1:13:13] two creators for reaction-based content. The catch, one channel is filing the lawsuit against the other for the way the react content was acquired. >> Christopher Cordova, the individual who filed the suit, is stating that the

[1:13:27] footage that was acquired without their permission was ripped using ripping tools that bypass YouTube's technical protections, which they claim is in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, DMCA. Torrent Freak

[1:13:41] Copyright Act, DMCA. Torrent Freak stepped in to defend Jonathan Hunult. individual being sued saying that there is no way Cordova could prove that's ripping tools are being used stating that for years many React creators

[1:13:55] ripping the content. That's yeah that this is very difficult to prove. Judge Dearie did not immediately throw out the case, which has raised concerns in the React community because if this case goes through, it could have effects down

[1:14:09] the line for all React type content. That would be I mean very interesting. Uh to summarize, this isn't a question of fair use. Judge Dearie has acknowledged this as fair use, but what calls into into

[1:14:24] question is the way react footage is obtained. How are you supposed to how would you prove how you got it? Like how would you prove how you got it? Like what would what would a hypothetically

[1:14:38] what would that look like to you? >> Dude, I have no idea. I I mean the discussion question here is how the is anyone ever going to prove how people obtained footage? I'll just cut it out of the video if I leak the file name. Um

[1:14:57] I have no idea. I don't think you can really prove this. But then would that what difference does it make result? None in my opinion. Uh but would that result in if you can't prove that you got the footage like ethically then you

[1:15:10] can't do it at all or would it go the other way around? I don't know. >> I don't even think it's a question of ethically though. It's a question of whether you circumvented a digital lock effectively, right? But then is screen

[1:15:23] >> a screen >> not the same thing? Is that not a ripping tool anyway? >> That that's where I and to be clear, I'm just >> I don't know what you do asking

[1:15:36] questions. >> You're not going to be able to prove it. it make? >> Yeah. I don't I don't understand why because I don't understand the difference.

[1:15:51] difference. >> I don't know. not even bother. Let's talk instead about something okay that doesn't happen necessarily that often, but something pretty cool that the Canadian province

[1:16:07] pretty cool that the Canadian province of Quebec has done. They have a new >> oh yeah, >> which is all in French. So, bad news everyone, but that's okay because uh we'll figure we'll we'll sort it out for

[1:16:21] you. But basically, um they had some planned obsolescence uh safeguards that were passed back in 2023 that are finally going to come into full effect October 5th of this year

[1:16:36] full effect October 5th of this year that are pretty cool. For starters, increased minimum warranty periods on consumer electronics and periods on consumer electronics and appliances from three years on laptops,

[1:16:49] desktops, tablets, cell phones, and game consoles all the way to 6 years on large appliances like stoves and refrigerators. That is kind of awesome. >> The next line is also awesome.

[1:17:05] >> Like, okay, hold on. Let's let's talk about this. Like why is it that 3 years about this. Like why is it that 3 years is not already standard for an Xbox? That's crazy. >> Yeah, I like this a lot. I do suspect

[1:17:18] that this will result in products being just more expensive in Quebec. >> Um but I I think this would be cool if it was a standard basically everywhere. I this this like we're I think we talked about on the show like a couple weeks

[1:17:33] ago, but this this whole idea that like even refrigerator repair people are your refrigerator after 5 years. It's just garbage." Is like this is now e-waste on a totally different level, dude. Like when it's phones and stuff

[1:17:46] like that, that sucks. Obviously, e-waste in general is unfortunate, but like we're throwing out washers and dryers and refrigerators and dishwashers as if they're, you know, phone cycle replacements. Like, this is bad. This is

[1:18:01] I've got people asking, "I wasn't an Xbox already a three-year warranty?" No, >> this is a like five I mean, what's the Xbox up to? I was going to say $500 device, but it's gone up in price. Like this is an expensive item that has a

[1:18:16] 1year warranty. >> Yeah. >> Okay. The next one. Warranties follow the product for the full term of the warranty regardless of whether the item is resold. This is just such common

[1:18:30] sense. It's just so obvious. What? Something this this water bottle >> that that isn't a rule >> magically might not last as long if I about? >> Insane.

[1:18:44] All right, next. Used cars and motorcycles also get automatic warranty coverage depending on the age of the vehicle and mileage. Um, uh, Jordan it's not clear in the translation. >> Yeah, that one's a little tough. I don't

[1:18:59] know how that works, but I I like the gusto. >> Yep. Additionally, all goods bought or leased must be able to serve their normal purpose for a reasonable length of time. The law also prohibits the use

[1:19:13] of techniques that make it more difficult to maintain and repair goods and aims to guarantee the availability of spare parts and repair services >> based. >> Retailers must inform customers of their

[1:19:25] minimum warranty coverage under the law before trying to sell any extended >> So basically >> that's a really good last line actually >> Yep. >> Uh that's a very good very good

[1:19:39] might actually want to add something to this." That was smart. Good job. >> So, David and I David and I did another one of those fun Lionus and David just go and buy something adventures. Uh, we we went to Costco to buy a desktop

[1:19:52] >> and we had a really cool experience with that from one of the reps there that is because we didn't call ahead and get permission to film at Costco. just kind buying a computer and we're going to roll on some metag glasses and uh good

[1:20:08] luck everybody. Uh, by the way, uh, apologies in advance. David has never shot anything on metagasses before and he's a very active conversationalist, so the footage might be a little shaky sometimes.

[1:20:23] David was like the king of of interacting with with the with the host right? >> Yeah. like he just like he can't help it. He's just a very active listener. He's a very he's a very uh engaged

[1:20:37] personality and these are all good things as long as you're not a human tripod. So anyway, but yeah, it was really fun and we

[1:20:52] um the the representative which I didn't even know like Luke, did you know that Costco had like someone who works in the electronics department to like talk to >> No. >> Yeah, it's a thing. So, we talked to the

[1:21:05] guy and he gives us a little, you know, like pro tip that if you don't tell the that it was part of a complete system, it may very well have a longer

[1:21:17] three-year warranty on it. And same with, you know, things like memory. They often have a lifetime warranty on it. So, yes, it has, you know, a Costco extended 2-year warranty. So, they they do an extra year, I believe, on computer

[1:21:29] systems compared to if you buy those systems elsewhere, which I thought was a "And you might even be able to get more." And it's the kind of thing that makes you feel really good as a consumer. Like the sales rep is is there

[1:21:41] to help you and guide you and inform you rather than there to extract your money. And it was just such a positive experience. And that's wicked. Uh to have that enshrined in law. I guess I wish it wasn't necessary, but I'm glad

[1:21:55] that it is. And I would love to see I'd love to see this expand. I did see someone in the chat saying, "Yeah, there's already brands that are um that are looking to pull out of Quebec because of this." But I think the answer

[1:22:08] is not for Quebec to back down. The answer is for everyone else to step up. >> That will give more opportunity and more sales attention to brands that don't. >> Now, it's time to give some attention to the brands who sponsored the show today.

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[1:23:35] wish I was sitting on that chair right now. This thing sucks so much. >> Oh yeah, >> this is not one of those times. The show is also brought to you by Squarespace. Whether you're an entrepreneur looking

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[1:25:01] the curb. >> It sure did. >> No notes. Ankor Yuthi Soundcore. Anker Yuthi Soundcore. Context. Anchor used to >> our biggest partner? I don't think that's right.

[1:25:15] >> Is that right? >> Think >> I'm going to message Colton right now. >> Uh >> they used to be a sizable partner that we had. Maybe the biggest one.

[1:25:29] right, but >> I messaged Colton and Steve and I will >> Fake news in the Wandok. Uh, and we dropped them because of a fiasco with Yuthi where their cameras weren't encrypted and they tried to lie and got

[1:25:42] caught and it did get resolved, but it was weird and took a long time and they months and months and months and months and months and months and months. But, uh, we want to work with them again. So, Lionus wants to sus this out.

[1:25:56] >> Okay. I just heard back from Colton. He says, "Yes, they were our biggest partner 2020 era." Oh, man. Yeah. So, they messaged me earlier today and basically Colton's like, "Hey, we

[1:26:10] specifically on the Anchor and Soundcore brands. Are we fine engaging with them?" Uh, we dropped them many years ago uh because of the whole debacle. I'd just like to bring up for a moment that I'm

[1:26:22] like to bring up for a moment that I'm so tired of people calling our integrity as a company into question when we have done stuff like this, like unflinchingly, without hesitation. Apparently, they were our biggest

[1:26:34] partner. Literally didn't matter. We did it anyway. Cool. Let's move on. Um, I think the big question here is put very succinctly by night author in

[1:26:47] the float plane chat. Any reason to believe that they have changed? >> I think that's the question. >> I think that's the question. And I have >> I have to be honest with you. They they did eventually resolve the Yuthi thing.

[1:27:03] >> Okay. >> We still I still have no interest in engaging with the Yuthi brand. I didn't like the way that they deflected. Like if the Yuthi thing had happened and then they had immediately

[1:27:18] owned it and taken steps. I'm not about people being defined by their mistakes. To me, you're defined by >> you're defined by how you respond to >> They did eventually. They did eventually. They initially initially

[1:27:33] they just like deflected and and completely not apologized. Yes, they did eventually. It was like ages later. >> Um, and so that was my problem. That was why we ultimately were like, "Well, see you."

[1:27:47] And Andre B says, "Okay, well, how do you prove now that they're trustworthy?" So, I think that's why Colton is talking specifically about the Anchor and the Soundcore brands rather than even bringing up Yuthi with me because no, I

[1:28:02] I just don't um I just don't think that I would be comfortable with a Yuthi product at this point. Um, point. Um, but like look, this is one of this is

[1:28:17] dropped them, it did create a ton of confusion because I was very explicit just not going to take their money. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop using their products." Like, check this out. Hold on. I'm up. One sec.

[1:28:40] >> I mean I mean >> an anchor power brick. >> I mean there's also this >> Oh, hold on. I can't see. labs website is testing an Anchor Nanocharger. Um

[1:28:53] them. We never said we weren't going to use the products. >> we just said that we weren't going to take their money. Um and I think the question is have they have they done enough for us to change that?

[1:29:13] subscription now? Interesting. >> Uh for some articles, not all. >> Apparently, their Yui blames the software update and promises to do software update and promises to do better article is behind one of those.

[1:29:30] years. How long do we have to put someone in sponsor jail for? Like I I someone in sponsor jail for? Like I I think it's I think it's um it was um >> was it actually 2020? I think it was like 2022 2023 or something. A lot of

[1:29:45] the not a lot of the stuff I'm finding online about this is from 2023. >> Yeah. Okay. Can you Okay. Oh no, Colton. So sorry, Colton said 2020. They were >> Got it. >> Um

[1:29:58] >> Um >> Okay. Um I'm trying to remember who it was. There was uh was it Tech Brew

[1:30:12] that uh made that really good point about not uh not just like if if a company makes a mistake, not just putting them makes a mistake, not just putting them in jail forever. Like at some point if

[1:30:26] they rectify the issue then No, it wasn't Tech Brew. Who was it? >> Luke, do you remember? No, I don't know. >> Ah, shoot. It was on It was on their like it was on their podcast or something. Anyway, it was a good point.

[1:30:40] Yeah, I says, "I personally haven't bought any anchor or other their brand products since the Yui news." Um, Bla1 Henry says, "Don't forget that Anker also has issues with exploding P

[1:30:53] power bank recalls like every few months." That is true. Evidence of that? I know there were some bad cells that a number of were some bad cells that a number of battery bank manufacturers got um got

[1:31:07] burned by, pun intended. So, let's just be very let's be sure that that was be very let's be sure that that was actually an anchor specific issue.

[1:31:20] that." I mean, yeah, that's that's very fair, especially when you got gas lit the first time before the apology was issued. Mhm.

[1:31:34] put flock on your bad list forever." I mean, that Yeah. See, that's a tough one where I'd say, "Yeah, they're on the bad list forever. I don't see how there >> Yeah. So, I'm reading this Verge article cuz I'm kind of like my memory is not

[1:31:47] what happened here. And the Verge article opens with, "First Anker told us it was impossible. Then, it covered its tracks. Then it repeatedly deflected while utterly ignoring our emails. So shortly before Christmas, we gave the

[1:32:00] company an ultimatum. If Anker wouldn't answer why it supposedly always encrypted Yui cameras were producing unencrypted streams, among other about the company's lack of answers. It worked. So they had to get like

[1:32:15] >> dirty >> like ethically blackmailed >> um into into doing the right thing which is like you know like you said it's been >> maybe people involved with this are gone. Um I don't know but just an

[1:32:32] apology after that level of like trying to cover up something actually very to cover up something actually very serious is >> I don't know what that more would be. >> I think the bigger question for me from

[1:32:47] the business team is why do we need to do this? Is there just some other is there some other power company that we could just work with instead? Um because of my annoyance with this thing,

[1:33:01] to you about this, but I have personally I know they're a sponsor of ours, but on a personal level, I've switched to UG Green. I've bought UG Green things lately. Uh >> yeah, I bought four Ukraine power um

[1:33:15] uh wall warts recently just so that the kids will not lose theirs. Uh so they >> When I was traveling, I bought >> picked up a family set >> uh power bank which has been great. Uh I more recently bought a UG green wall

[1:33:29] wart which has been great. Um, I also haven't used this yet, so I can't comment on it, but I bought one of their USB to 3.5 mm cables, which has a Bluetooth chip in the USB plug. So, it just looks like a USB to 3.5 mil, but it

[1:33:45] it basically adds Bluetooth to your car. It powers the Bluetooth over the USB and looks cool. I haven't used it yet, though. Um, yeah, I don't know. But I know that they need the biggest reason if they think the company has actually

[1:34:00] pretty big deal. So >> yeah, >> I I'm I'm interested in how like what what do they what did they do? So okay, maybe they said like sorry that we lied and then covered up and then deflected

[1:34:15] and then got blackmailed into saying the truth. Um but what did they what do they do about that? They did they do some form of action to follow up? And I think this requires more digging personally. That's my stance. I know the goal was to

[1:34:28] ask the audience, not me. Um, but that's that's where I'm at. And how about Ankor has a really good year and doesn't screw anything up and

[1:34:45] we revisit in 2027. Does that make sense? >> Part partially. Um, I I I need to go look into the apology that they gave cuz I don't know what they said. Um, and I'd like to know what they did. Like

[1:35:00] somebody said, "We need heads on sticks." And it's like to a certain degree this was like actually unacceptable. But again, uh, you know, things change, times change, people change, etc. Especially

[1:35:12] at companies, staff changes. What was it? We heard a stat recently like most people stay at a company for 2 years. It's been more than that now. so there could be like a very significant level of turnover for the

[1:35:27] significant level of turnover for the people involved in that. Uh, and you the by by the time we're 2027, like you said, uh, based on statistics, a huge portion of that company will have turned over. Uh, maybe second chance is fine,

[1:35:42] but yeah, I I think paying attention to what they do in that period of time would be really good. and paying attention to the ways they communicate and hopefully here's a weird take. Hopefully they have some form of problem

[1:35:55] so you can see how they deal with it. >> Gerie 008 says they also promised a micro site that we never got. Focusing on security. >> Interesting. >> Okay. I think this requires more digging

[1:36:11] and >> needs to dig more. I'm gonna I'm gonna um flag that. I'm on a new laptop. I haven't pinned snipping tool to my taskbar yet. >> You also have to remember they're a huge

[1:36:24] company. Even yall have communication issues at your size. Even >> bigger has got to be worse. I as far as my understanding goes a lot worse. But problem >> in my opinion.

[1:36:38] >> Okay. Um, I think we need some more answers Um, I think we need some more answers about how they've really changed also this um, let's pencil in for 2027,

[1:36:57] um, let's pencil in for 2027, but they need to um, demonstrate in some but they need to um, demonstrate in some way that they are digging to determine if an answer should be yes, maybe the answer should be no.

[1:37:11] to be doing the digging. Um, I understand the take that you're trying to make, but I don't agree personally. >> But the flip side of it is that most people are just buying a battery like a wall wart or a battery bank and like we

[1:37:24] just we just did that labs article on an anchor wall wart that was just like a random side quest that Lucas was interested in. Like it had nothing to do with this conversation that Colton's bringing up with me. And it's like

[1:37:37] a good wall wart. And so like why should we why should we not say, "Yeah, this is a good wall wart um and get sponsorship good wall wart and then they enjoy their wall wart." Like I just Yes. And also

[1:37:55] no. The only thing I hate about LMG is their indifference to crowdsourced carriers. What? >> What are crowdsourced carriers? >> What are crowdsourced carriers?

[1:38:27] >> What? Sorry. What does this have to do with our indifference to >> I This is the first I've heard of it. And also

[1:38:41] >> I'm so This feels so out of left field. Uh >> indifference in coming. No, like we I mean we've we've talked in defense of about, but anyway, >> crowd sourced carriers.

[1:38:55] >> Remember we had a topic not that long ago. We both got duped on it because it was like some AI slop thing, but we were talking about how Uber and all these different places are like often mistreating their drivers. They don't

[1:39:08] about how like at a certain degree you're exchanging the value of your car you're exchanging the value of your car for short-term money. um the the fact that they're like little mini individual corporations like hurts their ability to

[1:39:22] get things like health insurance and how it's it doesn't properly get flagged as of cases it effectively is like we've talked about all this kind of stuff they're talking about though. I think they meant like crowdsource carriers

[1:39:35] like like like instead of FedEx or something. Am I am I maybe I'm missing >> I don't know. I have no idea. >> Okay. All right. Cool. Well, either way, uh, that's neat. Should we should we move

[1:39:49] leave it there. I kicked it back to the business team to do a bit more investigation. And I think that one way or another, this is still a little fresh or another, this is still a little fresh and we can we can pencil it in for 2027.

[1:40:01] As long as they don't screw anything else up this year, and as long as they um, you know, tell us what exactly it is that they've done to show that their culture has moved beyond this behavior. >> Sounds good. No notes. Google lets you

[1:40:14] remove explicit images and other personal info from search results. Google launched a tool to request removal of non-consentual explicit images from search results. Users click the three dots on the image uh on the

[1:40:26] the three dots on the image uh on the image result and select remove result. >> Requests are trackable through Google's results about you hub uh which also ex

[1:40:39] expanded to let users submit government ID numbers for monitoring. Major caveat first. >> Yeah, >> And it only removes the results from Google search, not from the internet

[1:40:52] >> it's something >> which means crawlers are still going to that's becoming more common for Google >> sorry, >> that's it's not in the notes. There is

[1:41:05] once you've requested a takedown, uh you don't have to like keep requesting takedowns. It'll proactively remove it again if it shows up again. the AI summary?

[1:41:18] >> No. Oh, Google's own AI summary. I think probably will. I think about that. really >> cuz that's not AI, is it? Yeah, asked the AI for >> it's given image results from the labs

[1:41:32] >> Oh, >> fun time. >> Bloody hell. Okay, before we get into another talk about >> Oh, is it actually in here?

[1:41:45] >> I don't know. I thought we were going to like kind of talk about the lab and how well like what the future of the lab's website looks like if >> um if our if our traffic Okay, >> I don't have the chart here. So, it's it

[1:41:58] gets hurt a lot. I'll send an email. >> Yeah, next next week. But basically, >> Yeah, next next week. But basically, yeah, um AI AI crawlers, uh we we tried interesting behavior. We'll get into that. Before we do our next topic

[1:42:12] though, I just want to talk about the Lena Con thing from last week. What I was getting at I went too far. I went too far and I'm sorry. What I was trying to get at is that being proconsumer and being based is sexy. That's all I was

[1:42:26] trying to say. It wasn't meant to be literally sexual. It was just like it's literally sexual. It was just like it's so cool that it's like sexy wood. That's all. It wasn't meant to actually be personal. There

[1:42:40] away afterward. >> I don't think that helps. I >> What? >> You You just said wood again. >> But no, that that's what I said last week. That's that's where I was going

[1:42:52] with it. Like I went too far because it wasn't it wasn't meant to be about the actual person. It was just meant to be being super proconsumer and awesome is so good that it's like gone sexual. >> It Yes, it's I'm not saying it wasn't

[1:43:07] >> It Yes, it's I'm not saying it wasn't dumb, Luke. >> That's all I have to say about it. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Alphabet is issuing 100year bonds.

[1:43:28] Sterling Century Bond to fund AI investments. investments. Century bonds are highly unusual, especially in the tech sector where long-term bonds usually top out at 40

[1:43:41] years. Though IBM did sell a 100-year bond in 1996. Our discussion question here is I got nothing from Jordan.

[1:44:01] Yeah. Would would you have any faith whatsoever that Alphabet will still exist in a hundred years, let alone be in any kind of condition to be

[1:44:13] alone be in any kind of condition to be paying you guess their logic they need to build AI infrastructure. so

[1:44:27] desperately and so immediately that they are mortgaging their future in order to are mortgaging their future in order to have that AI infrastructure today. Is this am I am I missing something here?

[1:44:40] because I I am I am not like a financial services expert by any stretch of the imagination, but my my understanding is that basically they're just you're giving them cash today and then they are

[1:44:54] giving you a return on that like effectively forever for life, but they will have to exist and they will have to have this money in order to continue to pay that out in the longer term. Which means that money you give

[1:45:07] them today, they have to generate a return on it. Otherwise, the whole thing doesn't make any sense. Am I missing something here? something here? Um,

[1:45:23] sells a 100red-year bond and then the company itself is sold, the company that buys them would still owe on the 100red-year them would still owe on the 100red-year bond. Correct or no?

[1:45:37] I mean it's uh the guarantor my understanding is Google's parent company it's Alphabet so it's a publicly held so it's not about people at that point >> okay if Alpha if Alphabet got taken private

[1:45:50] owns them then it would be their liability >> but it would transfer like they can't just be like oops bought the company I'm not going to pay these out anymore >> okay while I will say like I I could

[1:46:03] foresee a future where Alphabet doesn't exist anymore more um very easily. I I don't think I foresee a future where Alphabet goes private at this point. They're just the scale that they've reached. It's I I don't look I

[1:46:17] >> They also have a crazy amount of So, some someone pointed out that IBM sold 100-year bonds in like 1996 or something, and I was thinking like, oh >> yeah, >> I thought it was full chat for whatever

[1:46:30] reason. I could see that still being a thing at this point they're just kind of sitting around with patents as far as I >> No, they do stuff. >> Um, okay.

[1:46:43] Sure. >> I could see I could still see. Yeah, as far as my understanding goes, they're doing that to generate patents.

[1:46:56] time. Um, I could still see Google being around because of the amount of things around because of the amount of things that they've made. Um, um, >> but that's where like their their their

[1:47:09] like IP and their patents being important >> or, you know, YouTube has proven a new age of YouTube staying power. Um,

[1:47:21] and maybe Google just exists forever now. Look at how much they killed off. Yeah. Tons of good stuff. >> What I really want to know, guys, is am

[1:47:35] I missing something here? Is this as crazy as it seems to be on the surface? crazy as it seems to be on the surface? >> Seems nuts. Yeah.

[1:47:47] >> Well, at least for this anyway. >> Yeah. Just this. Not the previous thing. Yeah. >> No, it's crazy. Okay, so we're all on the same page. Well, no, you just that you buy I don't know how much total they

[1:48:02] issued, but like billions is my understanding. And but you you buy like what you want to buy, so it's >> Yeah.

[1:48:18] Uh, got some bad news for you, Insomniac. It isn't. How much is it going to be worth in 100 years? >> Yeah, a 100 years. Like nothing.

[1:48:32] point or something. Who knows? >> Who knows? >> Or people decide to scam in some other way. Not that Bitcoin's really heavy on way. Not that Bitcoin's really heavy on that, but that space is

[1:48:51] I'm sure somebody's done that already. >> Okay. All right. I Well, they did. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. I Well, they did. Yeah. It seems like uh it seems like this is it seems like this is um yeah, just as crazy as it sounds to me.

[1:49:06] >> Um is this just people being absolutely like like like wealthy investors and and like like like wealthy investors and and funds being desperate for somewhere to put money right now that it's not going to rot? like is is that the issue with

[1:49:20] with the way inflation's going with the dollar and the way the dollar is devaluing with the way that gold doesn't generate uh passive income like there's there's reasons that all these different asset classes exist. Um

[1:49:35] in real estate. Like is this just like like tech tech company bonds? Is this the is this the new yolo hail Mary? Because there's so much money being

[1:49:47] managed by by some firm that they're just kind of like, well, we got to buy something with it and okay, here's a thing and if this doesn't work then like things we did will probably work really good. Like is that is that what's going

[1:50:00] good. Like is that is that what's going on here? sense to me anymore. >> Everybody's just

[1:50:13] doing stocks based on vibes and now we're doing 100red-y year long bonds based on probably vibes. Just nothing means anything anymore. raising capital." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand why Google wants to do it.

[1:50:28] The part that I don't understand is why anyone wants to buy it. That's what >> No, it's not a new thing. Look up preferred stocks and perpetual bonds.

[1:50:44] >> Okay. Preferred stocks and perpetual bonds. Not a new thing. Okay. All right. >> Okay. Just >> money to be treated as equity. >> Why wouldn't you just buy actual equity? It's a public company.

[1:50:57] Um, well, maybe there's some tax reason for it then, >> so you can borrow against it because a bond is is more certain. It's like it's it's a guaranteed payout that's, you

[1:51:11] >> bonds are aggressive >> tied to share price. >> All right. We're just getting into weird lands we don't necessarily understand. I mean, I can I can wrap my brain around that, but I also just have to

[1:51:26] things that we haven't necessarily heard of, which is like, okay, we should probably just get out of here. >> A bond is only a guarantee as long as the guarantor is able to guarantee it. I mean, that's why like US government

[1:51:39] bonds were so popular for so long because, well, yeah, the US government just, you know, print more money or whatever. Uh but like buying a bond from a company that pivots as often and as hard as Google does for a hundred years.

[1:51:57] hard as Google does for a hundred years. 100 years alphabet bonds 100 years alphabet bonds 100 years like I Okay, sure.

[1:52:10] >> Sure. Sony uh will ship their final Blu-ray recorders this month. Blu-ray players will continue production for now. That's all. Just wanted to flag that Blu-rays

[1:52:24] all. Just wanted to flag that Blu-rays Blu-ray's death is not um greatly exaggerated. It seems like it is finally finally coming. Finally coming. Cool. See you later, Blu-ray. Uh does anyone is anyone in chat going to miss Blu-ray?

[1:52:37] >> Blu-rayers. >> Yep. >> Burning. >> Like like writing. What is that for? Like burners. Remember burners? >> Why would you call it a recorder?

[1:52:50] >> Well, that was often what they were called back in the day. Writers. >> I've never heard it called a recorder. >> I think the burner parliament kind of went away pretty early on, >> but like consumers liked it because it

[1:53:04] was cool. >> Yeah. Are you a writer, recorder? Yeah, >> Yeah. Are you a writer, recorder? Yeah, 100%.

[1:53:18] >> Yeah, some of these other ones are really depressing. >> Oh, check this out. Want to bring up the interface. There are three early access LT videos and two amazing float plane exclusives up this week. One of the

[1:53:35] three Christmas bonuses this year was allowing employees to spend $1,000 on whatever they choose as long as they go with fellow employees. Sammy, Chewy, Ariana, and Belle vlogged their time spending their $1,000 on a bunch of

[1:53:49] spending their $1,000 on a bunch of stuff like a base, belt, clothes, and a book. Fun fact, of the three options, about 95% of the company chose to spend the $1,000 and then have a paid day off. Um,

[1:54:03] there were other options. In fact, Luke and Dan were the only two people that want to talk about it? You guys are done now, right? >> Uh, but we're done the primary portion, except I forgot you were supposed to

[1:54:16] been able to anyway, so I didn't do that part. Um, part. Um, >> but we we got four really like fancy, >> but we we got four really like fancy, very fancy cooking classes and we got a

[1:54:29] we went to a Michelin star restaurant and had the day off. the day that we Exactly. >> You didn't realize just how fancy it was something. >> Oh, the cooking classes. Yeah, that was

[1:54:42] crazy. I was just like, "Oh, cool. Four cooking classes. Neat." Uh, and then yeah, they went over the ingredients list and I was like, "Whoa." Okay. All right. Um, >> like what was it? I forget. You told me

[1:54:54] at some point. >> Uh, there's like this Can you describe >> Uh, there's like this Can you describe the uh the lamb, Dan? Yeah, it's like a special New Zealand lamb grown by sort of a small farm with very particular

[1:55:07] rules and regulations and it's not sold retail. It's only given to a couple of crap, >> the person's name that they know that they get it through and stuff. It's >> Jeffree brought this over and he's like,

[1:55:21] I work for a different company now. Uh, do you want lamb? And like, oh, >> okay. restaurants when when the when each individual ingredient in the food has a story, you know, you're paying a lot of money. Um, so so that was neat.

[1:55:36] >> That's right. >> So we did our thing yesterday and that's when I was like, "Yeah, my favorite part was the potato >> It was an extremely fancy potato. >> It was like a uh a rosette done sort of

[1:55:51] scalloped >> surrounded by potato skin cream cheese or something on it as well. >> It was really good. It was a >> It was excellent. >> Unique experience,

[1:56:04] courses. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Anyway, most people just got the shopping spree. Um >> I still haven't figured out why no one else picked this. It's been amazing.

[1:56:19] >> We still have two courses to go. It's four courses. Classes. Yeah. Sorry. All right, we also have a blue screen of death competition featuring Elijah, Danny, one of our new writers, Jordan, and Tatiana to see who can get a blue

[1:56:35] screen the fastest. Um, if early releases are more to your tastes, we've got three. We released Tuesday's video, a whole week early on float plane, which has Elijah converting from an Android to an iPhone and giving giving his reasons

[1:56:50] an iPhone and giving giving his reasons as to why. We also bought a $90,000 Oh, sorry. No, they provided uh a $90,000 TV. Plof and I unbox and at least help a little bit with the assembly to see how good it is. It's crazy. It's incredible.

[1:57:06] Spoiler, sorry. And finally, our dash cam roundup, which we'll release right with exclusives and early access at lmg.gg/fpwan.

[1:57:19] write do this call to action first please at the end of the dock or the end of the segment and it's red and bold and in larger font

[1:57:35] and it has like like little whatever the little hats are called the little uh shift >> shift six the hats it has a bunch of hats do this first please Sammy why would you put it at the

[1:57:52] >> Sammy, >> what is this? Sammy's here. >> No. Show Show the float plane landing page. >> Yeah. >> I supposed to do.

[1:58:05] >> Okay. >> Yeah. I don't I don't know why. Can they hear you? >> Yeah. Show the things. Show the things. Yeah. Blue screen death. Yeah. >> Are you even Oh, here in person.

[1:58:20] >> Why am I still here? >> Yeah, it's late, dude. >> I didn't realize you like ran onto set and I was like, "How am I hearing Sammy >> I couldn't I couldn't see him, so I really was confused.

[1:58:32] >> Anyways, I I just I just need I just need you to go on the right screen. >> I thought you just hacked into our call. >> Yeah. I was really impressed. good." Yeah.

[1:58:48] Yeah. All right. sponsors or we can do more talking. >> Noctua. No. Noctua. Noctua celebrates

[1:59:01] half a million CPU cooler mounting upgrade kits. This is so cool. This is from Tom's Hardware for the past 20 years. Yeah, exactly. This >> is actually very cool. >> I like that they celebrated it. This is

[1:59:15] so based. This is so proconsumer that I think it's sexy. think it's sexy. >> Wood, would be something. >> For the past 20 years, Noctua has been

[1:59:30] offering mounting upgrade kits. Yeah, they have they have >> for free to anyone with a valid receipt >> for free to anyone with a valid receipt for a Noctua cooler.

[1:59:45] Noctua cooler being able to be effectively the last cooler you ever buy as long as you don't you don't need uh the you know the the better performance of whatever their new gen one is. I believe you have to pay shipping. That's

[1:59:59] my understanding. But um the the kit itself is available for free. And and this is great for those without the receipt. The kits are still available on marketplaces for around $10.

[2:00:14] You can, and we actually did a YouTube short on this uh before the 20-year mark, but after I don't know, it was like 16 years or something like that where we took the very first Noctua cooler. We actually had them send us

[2:00:27] one. They still had a unit of the very, very first Noctua heat sink and we very first Noctua heat sink and we mounted it to the very latest CPU and showed it working and it was awesome and it was great. And the fact that they

[2:00:39] will support a product like that for so long is it's just it's admirable. Very admirable and I love it. Uh whoa. Binky Draw says

[2:00:52] if you want it expedited. That actually explains that time that Noctua sent us a bulk shipment of mounting kits mounting kits um for us to rehip for them cuz I guess

[2:01:06] money. Interesting. >> Just you, dude. >> You're just upset that my kink is being

[2:01:21] >> our gink now. >> That's so weird. >> Come on, Luke. >> You know, there there's some people that you might have an uncomfortable attraction to based on that.

[2:01:33] >> It's kind of weird, dude. I'm not uncomfortable with it. uncomfortable with it. >> I I think you might be. >> I I think Jacob would laugh it off. >> Okay. Um

[2:01:47] All right. Let's try to go to something that doesn't arouse Lionus somehow. Um, uh, Logitech G is not going to create an AI device that plays the game for you in >> Too late. I'm into it. >> Oh my god.

[2:02:03] Logitech G Pro series product manager Chris Pate was interviewed on Tom by Tom's Guide about the future of AI and Logitech products. And then in quotes, Logitech as a company is very much looking at how to use AI and how to

[2:02:17] incorporate AI into, you know, both product development and into products themselves. From the from a certain point of view, from the point of view of competitive integrity and esports specifically, I think we have to be very

[2:02:29] careful about how we use potentially integrate and touch the pro series with touch. You didn't have to use just careful Linus is here. Uh, we would never do it in a way that would compromise competitive integrity. We're

[2:02:42] not going to create an AI device that plays the game for you, right? >> No, no, no. Keep reading. It's good. >> That's absolutely outside the bounds of what using that type of technology would be applied to the Pro line. Okay.

[2:02:59] >> Yeah. >> Good job, Logitech. Not cool >> for drawing a line, right? Because taking a stance right now against AI in

[2:03:11] any way feels like like corporate kryptonite and just coming out and saying and and and and like okay it seems so obvious, right? No, we're not going to create an AI product that like plays the game for you because that's

[2:03:26] completely against the integrity of compet. Yeah, that seems obvious, doesn't it, Luke? And yet you've got all these monitor manufacturers that are Started with a cheat cheat cheating

[2:03:40] >> Yeah. You're supposed to just put masking tape on your screen and then put >> Stop. What are you guys doing? >> And then got as far as like sending alerts like that that they would monitor

[2:03:52] map and send you alerts if you're about to get ganked. Like that is not playing to get ganked. Like that is not playing the game anymore. Speaking of >> Speaking of things that Logitech could maybe use AI for, maybe naming their

[2:04:06] mice. There's a new article on Lab's website making sense of Logitech's mouse different things. This is like the opposite of sponsored by Logitech where we go through their different uh product lines and try to make sense of their

[2:04:19] >> Should this be an LTT? Could this just be an LTT? Could I just take this article, write a script, and then just make it an LTT? I think if you wanted to make it an LTT, I think you might need to do more than just the the Logitech

[2:04:33] do like a couple companies or something. >> Why? >> I don't know. >> I mean, they're hands down the leader in >> You hear I mean, I think you and I have probably said more times than we can

[2:04:45] count, you want a good gaming mouse that'll last you a long time, find >> Yeah. >> So, what's wrong with that? to do with that >> and then if it's successful hell marks

[2:05:00] with Razer >> and then it's a whole series >> because I think control the scope I think you can try it more I think as >> that's an awesome business meeting time I think sometimes we are often led by

[2:05:15] fear and I think in the current YouTube environment that actually doesn't in a in a weird way I think the craziness going on with the algorithm right now your content because if you release something that sucks, the algorithm

[2:05:29] doesn't really seem like it punishes you as hard as it used to. as hard as it used to. >> It just will not give it any views. So, there's a possibility this video gets 300,000 views, which for us would be

[2:05:41] 300,000 views, which for us would be pretty rough. Um, but if that does really well. So, you don't have the like momentum issue that you had in the past. So, just go for it. Yeah. Sick. Since

[2:05:54] >> Yeah. >> Uh Dan, I just dropped a link to the LTT subreddit in the in your teams. >> Yeah. >> Um >> should we start publishing to Pornhub?

[2:06:09] >> Sure. >> Apparently the ad CPMs are 3x. >> Yeah, nice. Just do it. There's also uh if you need to do research for making your video uh you could go Lucas has been posting all the articles on uh the

[2:06:24] LTT subreddit and I think somebody pointed out that we like missed one of the mice or something. So maybe there's some additional detail in the comments. We do read the comments in there. Check them out on the subreddit. But yeah, I

[2:06:36] employee that wouldn't mind doing that. Um I'm sure there is one. Did you just put yourself on screen? >> Yeah, he's going to put up the screen. >> No, that's not what happened.

[2:06:49] >> I missed it. Luke, can you throw it up? Um, if you want to >> potatoes. >> Potatoes. Okay. What What am I putting >> I'll try and find where you guys are on the dock. Uh, it was this link sent to

[2:07:05] >> Uh, >> this is crazy. Sorry, where is this? >> Uh, it's under the Logitech topic. >> Oh, okay. I wasn't there anymore. Uh, I see it. LTC. So, it's a subreddit thing.

[2:07:21] >> It's fine. It's safe for work. I I I've sent it. >> Relax, guys. >> People may not know this, but I publish >> People may not know this, but I publish the same STEM videos on both YouTube and

[2:07:33] can I say I think so. On the hub. While while YouTube generally generates more views, the ad revenue per million views on the hub is nearly three times higher. Other creators are uploading STEM videos on the hub and seeing two times uh the

[2:07:48] revenue since most of the subreddit spends their time on the hub. Anyways, it seems like a smart move for LGT to post there. Um to be clear, I don't for the same reason that we have certain ad verticals disabled on YouTube. I

[2:08:04] there's a reason that these advertisers pay more. It's because fewer sites will right. >> Oh, mean, we've had this conversation a thousand times around like the LT forum.

[2:08:20] We'll have some agency approach us, oh yeah, I could sell I could I could make forum. And I'm like, yeah, how? And they go, oh well, all you have to do is have ads for this stuff. And I'm like, yeah, okay, we're good. Um, but I just I

[2:08:33] >> You could you could try it and see what the community feedback is. someone who will volunteer to do the uploading. They already volunteered. >> Yeah, we could upload like the good news stuff there. Like it could be a a good

[2:08:48] >> Good news break. >> Yeah. break. Yeah. >> Who volunteered to do the uploads? Was this Elijah? >> No. Dan did immediately. Oh, for Oh,

[2:09:01] >> You'd have to find an employee who would who would be like willing to do this. >> I'm a team player. >> Waved immediately. >> I'll take one for the team. >> And then if you have a a partner to help

[2:09:13] you with it, is it a double team? >> Yeah, we'll double team the LTT videos. >> A good news break would be good news. Oh my god, that's funny. >> Damn, that's pretty good. We're going to get some work out of the

[2:09:28] >> Oh my goodness. Um, >> Oh my goodness. Um, >> is it possible to make too much money? right now is like, "Oh my goodness, you can't do that. That would be bad." Like,

[2:09:45] >> Is that going to make our brand worse? >> We were already on Only Fans. >> Yeah, that's true. Look, Luke, I don't think I've ever not entrepreneur. >> Then try it. H.

[2:10:01] >> All right. >> No balls. >> Can we move on, please? >> We'll do it. Dan Dan's going to create

[2:10:13] actually volunteer to do this? Cuz I can't I can't tell you to do this. account. It's fine. I mean, uh, the work account.

[2:10:26] >> We have a work account. >> No. >> We might >> We might need to contact them to get the username. I'm I'm I bet you someone took it.

[2:10:41] for us. I I think we've been in touch with them before. I'm sure we >> I still want to do a data center tour. Yeah, that actually would be very cool. >> Yeah, the dirtiest data center. >> Water cooled.

[2:10:57] Questionable liquids. >> Yeah, these are mineral oil PCs. >> Recycle. >> When there's a leak, does it squirt?

[2:11:09] >> Andy's dead. >> Oh, need two fingers to plug this hole. >> what's our next topic? Do you want to talk about our Uh, what would be the

[2:11:21] ratio of small white servers to large black servers?

[2:11:37] >> so Oh, man. >> Maybe it's that.

[2:11:50] Yeah. Why don't we do sponsor spots and then we have uh some good after that. in front of that? You want to do a little no notes topic real quick? >> No, we're good. We need some afterare here. Exactly.

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[2:14:06] >> I think you could have a lot of fun with the titles >> Oh, for sure. >> Someone in Flinting Chat already said that you should do like a explaining what DP is, and it's just an exploration

[2:14:20] of display port. >> Nice. like a fully safe for work >> this is going to be great. >> And then and then there's all those slightest >> but there's all those videos that are

[2:14:32] like >> I got stuck in the washing machine or whatever. So you could do titles that are actually like not really innuendoy but seem like they might be because of the content. I think

[2:14:46] >> Do you like the shape of my new screwdriver? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she checks out my screwdriver. >> One in each hand. >> 10 million views.

[2:14:58] notes. YouTube Music Lyrics now require a premium subscription. YouTube Music is rolling out a five free lyric view limit limit, only the first few lines are visible with the rest blurred unless you

[2:15:13] subscribe. YouTube Music Premium costs $11 a month in the US, while full $11 a month in the US, while full YouTube Premium is $13.99 a month in the US. I don't know why pretty much anyone would get just YouTube Music Premium.

[2:15:28] like, oh, you're too cheap to get the the the whole YouTube Premium. My reason for that is I would just get something else, Shopify or sorry, Spotify or something. I YouTube music really is like the thing that you have because you

[2:15:43] have YouTube premium. Uh just like how every company uses teams because they happen to have the office suite and teams happens to be there which makes it like the best option not because it's actually good. Um

[2:15:55] >> so I only I only highlighted this because it's I guess wonderful that YouTube is finding ways to make or Google is finding ways to make YouTube like Google Play Music which was awesome. Yeah.

[2:16:08] >> So yeah, this blows and that's all that I have to say about that. I have to say about that. >> Google says it now has 325 plus million >> That's pretty good.

[2:16:20] >> yeah, also not that meaningful because their services are so broad. >> Yeah. And YouTube brought in over 60 billion in ads and subscriptions in 2025. >> All right, what else we got? Microsoft

[2:16:35] certificate before the old ones expire in June. So, they've started pushing ahead of June 2026, which is the expiration of the original 2011 certificates. Secure Boot verifies

[2:16:48] blocking things like root kits from loading before Windows begins. The new deployed to supported Windows 11, 24H2, and 25H2 systems, though some devices may require firmware updates from OEMs

[2:17:00] first. Basically, we're just flagging this to like look into your device, make degraded security state with reduced bootle protections and all that good bootle protections and all that good stuff. Uh, also in other news, T-Mobile

[2:17:14] required. I thought that was pretty try it because I'm not on T-Mobile. So, yep, there you go. That's pretty neat. yep, there you go. That's pretty neat. >> Uh, and

[2:17:30] let me know. >> So, they're recording all your calls is >> Of course they are. >> Yeah. Cool. Don't you love the world? I want to talk about Io's new handheld. They

[2:17:43] the first time I did like a like we're making something that's really high-end. They called it the IO Next, and it was a pretty cool handheld back in the day. pretty cool handheld back in the day. They just announced the next two, which

[2:17:57] without early bird pricing on Indiegogo is starting at $2,000, is starting at $2,000, and the maxed out spec will be $4,300. We are literally in decent secondhand car territory.

[2:18:10] >> It's multiple times the cost of my first car. And I'm also assuming that's USD, so it's like a few multiple times. The maxed out specs include a 9 in 165 Hz maxed out specs include a 9 in 165 Hz OLED at 2400 x504 that reaches 1155

[2:18:25] nits. The AMD Ryzen AIAX Plus 395. So this is The AMD Ryzen AIAX Plus 395. So this is a 16 core CPU, 16 core mobile CPU, Zen 5 a 16 core CPU, 16 core mobile CPU, Zen 5 cores that has an RDNA, what what is it?

[2:18:39] Something something point something not four. the the previous one has uh an RDNA graphic GPU that's like about on par with kind of an entry-level mobile dedicated GPU. Like this thing is flipping powerful. RDNA 3.5. Thanks

[2:18:55] flipping powerful. RDNA 3.5. Thanks Veter or whatever. Uh up to 128 gigs of LPDDR5X memory at 8533 mega transfers per second. 2 TB of NVME storage, TMR joysticks, Hall effect triggers, a 116watth battery that is going to make

[2:19:08] paperwork in order to take it on a plane. And it weighs about a kilogram and a half. >> Oh, >> Oh, 3 and 12 lb.

[2:19:22] >> Do you want to show it on screen? As someone who already has spent a fair bit someone who already has spent a fair bit of time daily driving a GPD Win 5, this is the last category of products that needs fierce competition. The the

[2:19:36] that needs fierce competition. The the Stricks Halo handheld gaming PC space. It looks like a pretty cool little device though. IO has run into some device though. IO has run into some trouble recently with um their customers

[2:19:50] reasons that I don't 100% know right now, but uh seemed to be valid. I I like very briefly scanned it like supporting devices after the fact and stuff like that. >> I actually kind of like what GPD did

[2:20:05] I thought it was really stupid, but the more I've used it, the more I've really liked their battery tether. I just put it in the pocket of my cargo pants and then it makes it so that it feels like a normal weight and I don't have to carry

[2:20:17] around a massive massive battery with it. With that said, even feels like it feels like rocking out to my Zoom. >> Um >> even with the massive battery that it

[2:20:29] has, it still doesn't like last that long. I mostly used it used it plugged in. But it's nice to be able to game in bed at like really high fidelity. I played most of Expedition 33 on the GPD Win 5.

[2:20:41] can't fly cuz you won't after those prices either." And while I think that's really funny, I think the people that can afford that and will buy that will be able to fly afterwards cuz that's what's happening to the

[2:20:55] economy. Uh, >> hey, did you hear about the new concept, the E-shaped economy? >> No. So it's to it's to capture that the >> No. So it's to it's to capture that the the top of the K right is is never going

[2:21:11] to approach the middle class again which is going to remain is going to remain enormously elevated from the the very bottom who are struggling a lot. >> So this is this is like a new kind of

[2:21:26] way of describing it. Yeah. So now we've got the stratification has expanded. It's not that um that the middle class is going to be capital economy. >> I Yeah, that's that's not bad. I still think K-shaped is a better descriptor

[2:21:41] >> it's uh the K-shaped I think better shows the divergence. >> Yeah. But that that is interesting. Uh what else is interesting in finance is that Mr. Beast finally been waiting for this bought a banking app. Now I can

[2:21:55] finally do real banking. Beast Industries, Mr. Beast company has acquired STEPPP, which has apparently 7 million users, a financial services app for teens and young adults, that has banking services provided by Step's

[2:22:08] banking partner, Evolve Bank and Trust. Uh, this follows Mr. Beast's announcement of a new YouTube channel focused on personal finance and investing, backed by his own bank. That's cool. Uh, other ventures include

[2:22:22] Ghost restaurants, Fastables, and 10 trillion other things. uh first move like he's employing a strategy to continue to monetize his audience as they age, moving from snacks into savings. Um although, you know, people

[2:22:36] older. Uh discussion question, given the recent rash of influencer hyped meancoin rugps. I don't think that's recent. Uh do you think this is more of the same, another grift or a sound business model/ strategy for beast industries? I suspect

[2:22:50] suspect it will be a legitimate bank insane marketing from his financial channel and it will be more successful >> I think it will be boring. >> I think it's a pretty sound business

[2:23:04] decision. I think that uh I mean I I said years ago that he'd be the first YouTube billionaire. I think he's he's passed it now, right? passed it now, right? >> No idea, but he might as well be.

[2:23:21] with him in a long time. Um, when he was younger though, I can I can say that he seemed to mostly have his heart in the right place, even if not every even if I that he made and he did some things that I think were ill advised. Um,

[2:23:39] I think were ill advised. Um, I would like to hopefully believe that he would find a way to make his bank, you would find a way to make his bank, you know, not predatory or whatever. But I

[2:23:52] know, not predatory or whatever. But I um I've also seen beast endeavors that have been kind of running seemingly pretty independently. and he seems like he's stretched really thin

[2:24:07] like between the content and feastables and >> I I would and have bought >> uh you know I've bought YouTuber shirts. I've bought a wide variety of different YouTuber merch things. I've supported

[2:24:23] YouTubers on Patreon and Flowplane and and whatnot. Um I think it's really cool that there's YouTuber creator candy. I haven't bought any of it, but I totally would. Um, I think I'm good doing my banking with

[2:24:37] >> boring people in >> boring, really boring suited people. Ideally, like as boring as possible, really like I want to walk in and immediately want to yawn and just be bored and then walk out with a bank

[2:24:50] account that works. I think I think that's what I want them to do personally. This is not financial advice, but please Yeah, I do. Nerd says, "Not going to lie, Fastables taste like trash."

[2:25:04] really good. They were pretty high cocoa content. They were like actually pretty good quality chocolate. >> Um, and then they reformulated them to be more appealing to the average Mr. Beast viewer and also they're

[2:25:20] they taste a lot more like the chocolate on a Kit Kat or whatever. Uh, but the early ones were actually pretty good. like if you like quality chocolate um like if you like quality chocolate um that has like high is high in cocoa.

[2:25:34] that has like high is high in cocoa. My kids I um I had like some really nice uh Swiss chocolate that was like 65 or 70% cocoa or something like that and um I was I was treating myself to like an afterdinner just piece of chocolate and

[2:25:51] doesn't look like you know the chocolate we've had before." I'm like, "Oh, this "Well, yeah, but like I'm like, "No, no, but like this is chocolate." And uh they that they all liked it. I think I probably to put my thumb on the scale a

[2:26:06] little bit by giving them extremely small pieces because the the bitterness can be not that appealing to a younger palette. Um but they all really they all really liked it and I was like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, well, it's really expensive,

[2:26:20] house very often, but yeah, that's chocolate. It's really good." People are saying it's technically not a bank. It's just a fintech company that is backed by just a fintech company that is backed by a bank.

[2:26:37] >> yeah, I don't know. I don't I'm just supremely not interested and maybe somebody will be, but this this ain't for me.

[2:26:51] It's a It's a finance app aimed at Gen Z and Gen Alpha people. Like, you're you're you're just slowly doing the reverse of winning me over. So, anyways, not for me. I won't be engaging. Not financial advice. Do what the hell you

[2:27:04] want. See you later. Uh, after dark. >> It's after dark. >> I think it's after dark. >> I mean, it's clearly after dark. Oh, actually, there's lights on outside.

[2:27:17] It's not that clearly after dark. It's definitely after dark. outside. Nice. Solid. All right. I don't have too many for you here. Luke, Dan, and Lionus, has there ever been an item

[2:27:30] bought for an AMD upgrade where you were like, I could use that and eventually bought it. Also, Flend exclusives are too good lately. >> No. >> Um, I am not in the dashboard and I

[2:27:46] usually don't actually listen to you. I read along because I process information dashboard right now. >> Yeah, that's why that's why I read it real quick. You can read it. Uh yeah, I will DM them to Yeah.

[2:27:59] >> Do you want to? >> That's probably too behind the curtain for for float plane chat. Um have you has there ever been an item bought on an AMD upgrade where you thought that you could use it and eventually bought one?

[2:28:14] could use it and eventually bought one? >> Oh. Oh man. Uh, going to work? Nice. Okay, I'm in. I hacked the main frame.

[2:28:26] >> Grills. Lionus has grills now. >> Okay. Very funny. He He only wears them >> You got into making fun of >> No, but I should have. They are the >> No, but I should have. They are the right color.

[2:28:46] cuz I was trying to think. >> That's okay. I liked it enough. You didn't even need to laugh. I enjoyed it myself. >> Um I was pretty tempted by the live laugh neon sign, but I I just I couldn't

[2:29:00] spend money on that. Like I I I'd love to have one, but I wouldn't love to buy >> to pay for it. >> Yeah, that was pretty rough. have for free. That is very I like that. That's good.

[2:29:14] >> Linus Town. >> You know what? I would be I would I would be tempted I would have been tempted to pick up some of like the cool bike stickers that Andrew had in his uh for his motorbike, but then I painted my

[2:29:27] for his motorbike, but then I painted my bike. Uh, let's see what else we got. Man, I don't know. It's It's funny because other than my like tech junk, I actually don't like having a lot of clutter. I'm like such a millennial

[2:29:41] gray. Don't have extra stuff anywhere. Um Don't have extra stuff anywhere. Um person.

[2:29:54] found much that I've been that interested in. >> Okay. >> Surprise, surprise. Neither. >> although I do think that a lot of the purchases that people have made are cool

[2:30:08] >> Hold on. No, no, that might might have been a bit of a lie. Um because I I wasn't dailying an OLED when the first machine, I don't think. And I I think I I went Moled shortly after that.

[2:30:22] >> Is that why though? >> Uh I mean, like I guess the thing for me is that I'm I'm already aware of most stuff techwise before I I see it on an AMD upgrade. Yeah. And and a lot of the non- tech stuff is people's own hobbies

[2:30:36] and their own interests, which I don't necessarily share because I my main it isn't, then your business isn't really likely to be very successful. >> Unless you are really, really, really, really, really good at it and you can

[2:30:49] run your own business in 40 hours a week, which is like, wow, that's cool. Especially in the early days, like wow, good job. Up next.

[2:31:01] I have had the joy of running a STEM camp for kids of all ages recently. >> I'm constantly looking for cool experience experiments or activities in tech for it. Do you have any suggestions for a cool STEM activity?

[2:31:22] stuff. >> Trebuchets. >> Yeah, trebuchets. Capults. That was really fun. and you can like get them to try to do the math before every shot of like where it's going to land. Um like I

[2:31:36] I like actually tie in like actual learning objectives. Don't just do the fun part. >> This one reward reward the Yeah, reward >> This one reward reward the Yeah, reward the I did the math stuff with

[2:31:48] cool. >> Here's your projectile. It has to go >> math please. This may be beyond the scope and is honestly just because I've had to have this conversation a lot of times recently with my kids, but I I'd

[2:32:04] like adhesives and helped them understand, you know, how they function and why some of them work for some things and don't work for other things. >> Yeah. Like my kids keep trying to use hot glue on 3D prints and I keep having

[2:32:20] to explain that no, in fact, you can't do that. Um, unless depending on the filament, maybe you can, but um, it's really not optimal you can, but um, it's really not optimal for what they were trying to do. And

[2:32:33] it it's just the kind of thing that I think we don't really get like taught. I like I don't remember ever being taught anything to do with Yeah. with adhesives don't know. Yeah, this might be more of the older kids, but it's just something

[2:32:47] that's on my mind because I've had to talk about it a little bit lately. Hey, DLL. Uh, making my way through Tactics on Tactician. How many levels ahead of story battles did you usually have to be towards the end? I didn't

[2:33:03] keep track. I just uh I just played the game and tried to win. And I would I I ground much. I think I skipped almost every random encounter, which might

[2:33:15] explain why I was Oh. Oh, wait. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. I'm a bit of a completionist when it comes to abilities though, so I would just like hide in a corner and like hit my own guys and stuff to get abilities and then

[2:33:29] I would end up really overleveled. So I I don't know. I'm I'm a mess. Completely ignore me and my and my strategies. Last one I've got for you today. Good evening Wan Woo and Winus. I'm writing from the future as I am visiting Japan. Have any

[2:33:44] of you been to the Tohoku area? And if so, where should I visit if I get the chance? I'm currently in Zai. I don't think I've ever been there, but if I had, I wouldn't know because the way that I travel for work is I get on

[2:33:58] the plane and then I arrive wherever it is that I am and then I open up an app or a cab or whatever it is that I do and I go to whatever hotel I'm supposed to go to and then in the morning I go to whatever factory tour or thing that I'm

[2:34:15] supposed to do is and then I go home. And so I don't really know where I am sometimes. Um cuz it doesn't really matter.

[2:34:28] Museum." >> Yeah. didn't curate many. We had a lot of merch messages today, but I guess um

[2:34:43] >> not too many questions. >> Oh, wow. How about that? Well, um you guys all Noki says, "I'm working on this to help with your wiki page." What is this? Oh, wow. Whoa. A whole history of like float

[2:35:00] plane closed beta alpha phase domain announcement. >> Okay. The real trick though, Noki, is you've got to find other people talking >> It can't be first party. >> This is actually pretty good.

[2:35:13] >> This this has some information that most people don't know. Yeah, get him a Well, let's get him a wiki page. He should have one. >> I don't think it makes sense. >> The most important left renier. I mean,

[2:35:27] player. >> Yeah. Pretty big deal. >> No. >> No. But he has a jersey. >> My dad has one of his jerseys. It's kind of cool to have an official jersey

[2:35:40] back. Like it's actually just an official jersey and it is also your last cool. That is pretty cool. >> I kind of want one, but they're jerseys >> Oh, yeah, dude. They're >> they're so expensive.

[2:35:54] >> All right, I think that's it. I'll have to get back to uh to get back to uh >> though. Oh my god. same bad channel. >> Bye.

[2:36:09] Sorry. Oh, sorry. >> Got them. >> They're not wrong. Yeah, they're not wrong.