Future of Electric Cars vs. Gas Cars in 2026 Real Cost, Maintenance & Ownership Explained

[00:00] Welcome to the HalfMile podcast from

[00:02] Mercedes-Benz Downtown Calgary. I'm

[00:04] sitting here with uh Justin Edgar, CoM,

[00:08] and Chris Mernick, director of fix

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[00:28] of fun and we're going to start with the

[00:29] most controversial topic right now in

[00:31] the automotive world, which is electric

[00:33] vehicles versus ICE.

[00:43] >> Chris,

[00:43] >> yep.

[00:45] >> Probably affects you the most being in

[00:47] fixed operations because let's just call

[00:49] it for what it is. How much do EVs break

[00:53] compared to gas vehicles?

[00:54] >> They don't break. [laughter]

[00:56] We've seen very little issues at all

[00:58] with EVs. Um I guess most people are

[01:02] most concerned about the battery, right?

[01:03] The battery. The battery

[01:05] >> sales side, too.

[01:06] >> Yeah. Um

[01:08] and full disclosure, yeah, we've done

[01:10] one or two batteries. Um I think we all

[01:13] know that it probably could have been

[01:15] fixed with a software update that

[01:17] eventually came out, but there's nothing

[01:19] going wrong with them. They're actually

[01:21] really reliable. fraction of of of

[01:24] moving parts compared to an ICE vehicle,

[01:25] right?

[01:26] >> What do you notice with tires and

[01:28] brakes? Is it dramatically different?

[01:30] >> So, that's where um the change comes is

[01:33] the weight and the sheer torque. You

[01:37] consume tires at an alarming rate,

[01:40] right? And we all drive them. We know,

[01:42] you know, you when you're driving it,

[01:44] you can almost hear the tires coming off

[01:45] the car. Um, but brakes, I know when I

[01:50] drive my EV, I'm in uh full regen all

[01:52] the time. I'm never using the brakes,

[01:55] right? So, brake pads last a lot longer.

[01:57] There's no oil change, right? It's it's

[02:00] um it's a completely different beast,

[02:02] but yeah, you are going to consume tires

[02:04] at an alarming rate.

[02:06] >> Yeah. And one of the most complex

[02:07] components of a vehicle is the

[02:10] transmission. It's pretty intricate.

[02:12] >> Yeah. So, a lack of a transmission and

[02:14] an EV is probably going to reduce the

[02:17] complexities radically over an icing.

[02:19] >> Yeah. Well, all you have is an electric

[02:21] motors. That's it. Right. Whether you

[02:23] have uh one in the back, one in the

[02:25] front, you don't have a transmission,

[02:27] you don't have to have differentials

[02:28] anymore, you know? Everything is just so

[02:31] simple in it.

[02:33] >> How much would it be to replace the

[02:36] actual main battery, the the drive

[02:38] battery of a

[02:39] >> usually? Yeah, that's a that's a very

[02:40] frequent question. Um, it can range from

[02:43] 40 to $60,000.

[02:46] >> And all things being equal, if it was

[02:48] the equivalent S-Class, E-Class, GLE,

[02:51] what would that entire engine be to

[02:53] replace?

[02:53] >> About the same.

[02:54] >> Now, obviously, you can just repair,

[02:56] take components out, replace stuff

[02:58] within the actual engine. Where are we

[03:00] at? Cuz I know a lot of people have

[03:02] heard, a lot of people have read the

[03:03] cell replacement, cell rejuvenation. I

[03:06] know Mercedes-Benz has been working on

[03:07] that. A lot of pilots in Europe. Where

[03:09] are we at? We can't replace cells yet

[03:12] yet. Apparently in the US they're

[03:14] they're training their technicians. But

[03:16] once you get down to, you know, that

[03:19] $40,000 battery and we can just go in

[03:21] there and replace one cell for a

[03:23] fraction of the price, now we're

[03:25] talking, right? It's it's very feasible.

[03:27] Um, not that we've seen the issues with

[03:29] the batteries in long term yet, but it's

[03:31] going to be much easier to just get in

[03:32] there, open the battery up, replace a

[03:34] cell, put it back together, and put it

[03:35] back in the car. What does that mean

[03:37] though for you know yourself where your

[03:40] paycheck is pretty much dictated by

[03:43] repairs and everyone else that's in that

[03:45] world uh and so many people right now

[03:47] being pushed to go into trades because

[03:48] it's becoming yeah

[03:50] >> really hard to find people in trades.

[03:52] What does that mean for them on the

[03:53] other side when they go through all the

[03:55] schooling now?

[03:55] >> Yeah. Well, they're starting to teach a

[03:57] lot more of electric in school, right?

[03:59] You need you need to be qualified to

[04:00] work on these things, right? We're

[04:01] dealing with high voltage, right? It's a

[04:03] big safety issue, but um yeah, it's if

[04:08] if ice was gone right now and we just

[04:11] switched right to EV,

[04:13] uh wouldn't be as much work in the shop.

[04:16] There wouldn't, right? Um probably

[04:17] wouldn't need as many guys. We probably

[04:19] have a lot of just tire changers and

[04:21] whatnot, but yeah, it's not a lot of

[04:23] work on these things.

[04:24] >> Yeah.

[04:25] >> Yeah. And I think as they get lighter um

[04:28] and they develop more technology that

[04:30] they're going to go through less of

[04:31] those components like the tires and it's

[04:34] probably going to push innovation with

[04:35] tire technology to be even more

[04:37] resilient.

[04:38] >> Yeah. I don't the tire technology is not

[04:40] there yet, right? The most they've done

[04:41] is, you know, change a little bit of the

[04:43] compound and put some foam inside to

[04:45] help with noise because that's something

[04:46] you don't have noise, right? You have to

[04:48] always focus on dumbing down all the

[04:50] noise outside the car. But yeah, tire

[04:52] technology needs to catch up.

[04:54] >> Yeah. Yeah,

[04:55] >> but

[04:57] thinking about hybrids for example, are

[05:00] they really a formidable solution?

[05:01] Because I always think about hybrids

[05:03] myself and I'm like, okay, well, you

[05:05] have the complexity of an ICE motor.

[05:08] >> Mhm.

[05:08] >> And now you're adding the complexity of

[05:11] an EV. So, you have double the

[05:13] complexity. Correct.

[05:16] >> Yeah. But there's already battery in the

[05:18] car, right? Whether it be a 12vt or 48

[05:20] volt. Now, we're just adding a another

[05:22] high voltage battery in the back. I

[05:24] think hybrids are a great option. Um you

[05:27] can um put it in straight EV mode or in

[05:30] our cars it's really nice. You just turn

[05:32] it on and it's all auto, right? You get

[05:35] on the gas and it's in electric mode and

[05:37] then if you give it a bit more engine

[05:39] will kick on. I think it's a great

[05:40] option. Um I think it's a good way for

[05:42] people to get their feet wet with EVs,

[05:45] right? Instead of where the government's

[05:48] trying to shove EV down your throat.

[05:50] It's, you know, try out a hybrid. You

[05:52] can get much more range out of it. Um,

[05:55] you can drive in all electric if you

[05:56] want or you can just put it in gas.

[05:59] >> Yeah. And that's that I mean I'm glad

[06:01] you brought up the government because

[06:02] that's my biggest frustration with EVs

[06:05] is that

[06:06] >> it should be consumerdriven.

[06:07] >> Yes.

[06:08] >> And it's being forced upon by

[06:10] manufacturers. I know Justin, you

[06:12] studied it quite a bit, but I mean, we

[06:15] have to like Mercedes-Benz, for example,

[06:17] has to produce so many electric vehicles

[06:19] and so many hybrid vehicles to offset

[06:21] their carbon footprint to be able to

[06:23] produce the V8s that they do and the

[06:24] V12s. Correct.

[06:25] >> Correct. Yeah. I mean, it was almost a

[06:27] ratio. Uh, fortunately, we've kind of

[06:29] stepped away from it, but back in the

[06:30] day, you had the green levy taxes. You

[06:32] also had the rebates, Dayton, Dayton,

[06:34] you and I, when we're on the floor. But

[06:36] when you had the taxes, you had the

[06:38] rebates. Eventually they just started

[06:39] realizing that the dollar value isn't as

[06:42] effective. So they just basically said,

[06:43] "Look, if we want to create these V12s

[06:46] back then or the V8s and we had smart

[06:48] cars, it was almost for every S580 or

[06:51] back then 550 we had, you got a certain

[06:54] allocation of smart cars and then we saw

[06:56] the B-class come in in '05 06 um diesel

[07:00] technology came to North came back to

[07:02] the Canadian market. But it was always

[07:04] about that ratio game of making sure

[07:06] that we uh had our EPA at a certain

[07:08] point, made sure that uh obviously the

[07:10] emissions were there to keep everybody

[07:12] happy. But there there was some serious

[07:15] changes we saw in the post to 2020 with

[07:18] a diesel gate or whatever you call it.

[07:19] And that didn't necessarily just affect

[07:21] Mercedes-Benz, but it certainly affected

[07:24] everybody's, I guess, thought process

[07:26] when it came to diesel technology and

[07:28] and gas and going down to four

[07:30] cylinders electrification and

[07:32] obviously government's got themselves

[07:34] involved with it and that's that's their

[07:35] thing. But we're we're certainly dealing

[07:37] with it on the sales side, fixed side,

[07:39] uh the ramifications of it, and just

[07:40] trying to get the the point across of

[07:42] ICE, EV, hybrid technology. I mean, you

[07:46] nailed it. I actually see that hybrid

[07:48] technology

[07:50] based on where we're at, maybe in the

[07:53] prairies, but definitely in Canada. I'm

[07:56] finding ourselves, my wife, myself, you

[07:59] go from EV, and I love EV. I'm gas

[08:03] though. But hybrid's kind of where I'm

[08:06] finding my friends that were in an EV,

[08:08] they're leaning towards that because

[08:09] they see that, hey, if I want to make

[08:11] that additional stretch, I want to make

[08:13] that additional drive, I don't have to

[08:14] sit there and think it through as much.

[08:16] So, my 80% of my driving, especially

[08:19] with Mercedes-Benz where we could just

[08:20] drive in full electric mode,

[08:23] I find the people that have been or the

[08:25] people I've been talking to that have

[08:26] had the EVs, they're actually the ones

[08:28] that are exploring hybrid more than the

[08:31] ICE drivers that are considering EV but

[08:34] going into hybrid. So, it's we're in

[08:36] that weird bubble right now.

[08:38] >> Yeah. Uh I think that governments in

[08:41] general um have probably hindered the

[08:45] development of EVs

[08:46] >> 100%. Y

[08:47] >> uh I feel like their involvement is what

[08:50] has led EVs to be where they are from

[08:52] right now. I think incentivizing the

[08:54] purchase is of EVs I don't think was a

[08:56] wise choice. Uh and a lot I know a lot

[08:59] of people find that to be pretty

[09:00] controversial. But I think incentivizing

[09:02] people to drive consumer demand for EVs

[09:06] was not a wise choice because what

[09:07] ultimately ended up happening with most

[09:09] manufacturers that it created a sense of

[09:10] complacency where they weren't forced to

[09:13] make an EV that was generally affordable

[09:17] or feasible for people. They were

[09:18] basically selling the deal. So, you

[09:21] know, oh wow, you get a $12,000 rebate,

[09:23] $20,000 rebate, $25,000 rebate just for

[09:26] buying this EV, but we're going to

[09:28] charge you $75,000 for this EV. And the

[09:30] ICE equivalent for that same EV is like

[09:33] $45,000. So, you know, you're getting

[09:35] cars that are substandard lowquality

[09:38] products.

[09:39] >> Um, and I mean, sure, Tesla's done a lot

[09:41] for the EV industry, but they're

[09:42] lowquality product. And they were

[09:45] charging what they were for the vehicles

[09:47] because they had the government subsidy,

[09:49] particularly in the US, to be able to

[09:51] that enabled them to charge what they

[09:53] did for their cars. and you were seeing

[09:55] that it did not hold the same water when

[09:58] it came to resale, unless of course manu

[10:00] the government's got involved again and

[10:03] said, "Well, we're going to incentivize

[10:04] you for buying a used EV now." Right?

[10:07] And you're still seeing that in Canada

[10:09] right now. You're seeing that in BC and

[10:10] Quebec that they incentivize consumers

[10:13] for buying used EVs by saving them on

[10:15] taxation. Um, I think that's wrong. I

[10:18] think it's genuinely wrong. And I think,

[10:21] you know, the direction that

[10:22] Mercedes-Benz is going right now with

[10:23] the UCLA and the new GB platform with

[10:26] the EVs, I feel like that should have

[10:28] been how Mercedes-Benz stepped into the

[10:31] uh EV market. And I think it was foreign

[10:34] waters for a lot of people to begin with

[10:36] that a lot of people just did not

[10:37] realize um you know that

[10:41] >> the market was not looking for $200,000

[10:44] EVs uh you know EQS's and stuff like

[10:47] that and was not looking for these like

[10:49] spaceship looking cars just because you

[10:51] know Elon Musk made the Model S and then

[10:53] later on made this Model X and people

[10:55] were all of a sudden into this whole

[10:56] thing. I don't think that's what the

[10:58] market was looking for. I think they

[10:59] were trying to hitch themselves to that

[11:01] market and also capitalize on some of

[11:05] these incentives and rebates. And I'm

[11:07] not guilting Mercedes-Benz with this.

[11:09] I'm saying that it's every manufacturer

[11:11] was guilty of the same thing. But, uh,

[11:13] the new approach with the CLA and the

[11:15] GB, I think it's going to be a knock it

[11:16] out of the park success. And it's

[11:18] already showing its its stripes in other

[11:20] markets where they've released the

[11:21] vehicle. There's huge demand, way more

[11:23] demand for the EV than there is for the

[11:24] gas variant. Um, because that it just

[11:28] makes sense. I mean, if if I'm a

[11:30] customer that doesn't really care much

[11:32] about driving, that's looking just for

[11:35] transportation,

[11:36] um Jason Kamissa said it best, but I

[11:38] mean, an EV is the best solution just to

[11:41] get you around from mobility

[11:43] perspective. Are they fun? No. I

[11:45] definitely not. And I mean, we're

[11:47] reminded of that every time we do these

[11:48] drag races. And

[11:50] >> when we have to drag race EVs, it's like

[11:52] >> boring.

[11:53] >> Yeah. It's like shooting

[11:54] >> fast but boring.

[11:56] >> It is. Yeah. It's like shooting like

[11:57] shooting a movie with a bunch of minds.

[11:59] Like at the end of the day, it's it's

[12:00] kind of boring. Like it's a it's one of

[12:02] those old school silent movies that they

[12:04] used to have back in the day before they

[12:06] had audio, right? Where it was black and

[12:08] white and you had to make out what

[12:09] people were saying on the screen or it

[12:11] was written through with captions or you

[12:12] followed along in a book. That's how

[12:14] boring they can be. So they're not

[12:16] really designed for that. But as a

[12:17] commuter vehicle, they're fantastic. In

[12:19] the new CLA,

[12:21] you know where it's going to price out

[12:22] at in the mid60s for example. Everyone

[12:26] I'm talking to is crazy to get this

[12:28] vehicle. I mean, it's got over 800

[12:29] kilometers of range. It's in prices out

[12:31] in the mid60s. Um, it's got fantastic

[12:34] acceleration, wicked tech. It's it's

[12:37] awesome for that reason. I mean, is it

[12:39] my first choice of vehicle personally?

[12:41] No, because I want something that's

[12:43] going to have a little bit more

[12:44] emotional involvement, right? I know

[12:46] Justin has become a big fan of the EV

[12:48] and I know he's a big he's considering a

[12:50] UCLA.

[12:51] >> I've already put my name on one and you

[12:52] laughed at me. I mean, my favorite car

[12:54] I've ever owned is my EQS580.

[12:57] And don't get me wrong, I I've since

[13:00] switched to a C43, and it's a lot of

[13:01] fun. There's bang, it farts, it burps,

[13:03] it does everything you want it to do.

[13:05] And I mean, it is two totally different

[13:07] vehicles. You got a

[13:09] >> You got a much smaller, nimble sport

[13:12] AMG, and then you got the EQS, which is

[13:15] obviously chasing the S-Class

[13:17] demographic. It's

[13:18] >> heavy.

[13:18] >> Yeah. I mean, some people would say a

[13:20] boat, a yacht, whatever. I mean, it's a

[13:21] big vehicle, but the interior features,

[13:25] creature comforts, if I'm driving to

[13:26] Edmonton for hockey, whatever, it's it

[13:29] is by far and away my most enjoyed

[13:31] vehicle. Aesthetically, from the

[13:33] outside, maybe not. Interior-wise, I I

[13:36] can't find a vehicle that I've ever sat

[13:38] in that I just genuinely loved as much

[13:40] as the one I'm in. And I'm I'm super

[13:43] excited for the CLA. Mhm.

[13:45] >> When when we were sitting there, we we

[13:47] looked at the order guide and the thing

[13:48] came out. I threw it out to Mazin, our

[13:51] business partners, and said, "I'm going

[13:52] to get one." And Mazin laughed at me and

[13:54] I said, "You know what? I'm still going

[13:56] to get one." I mean,

[13:57] >> but you you you talked about driving to

[13:59] Edmonton. So, that's something when

[14:01] these EVs came out, the charging

[14:04] network, you know, was it up to

[14:07] standard? You know, you're So,

[14:08] Edmonton's three hours away. Yep. you

[14:10] know. So, what's it like going on a

[14:12] longer trip with a with the EV?

[14:14] >> Well, I mean, I don't consider Edmonton

[14:16] a long trip. Obviously, Masin's done LA,

[14:19] you've done Vancouver. I've done

[14:20] Pentictton a number of times, but and

[14:22] we'll get to those, but driving to

[14:24] Edmonton, generally speaking, whenever I

[14:26] go there, it's the dead of winter. I'm

[14:28] going up for

[14:29] >> hockey. I'm going up for the kids

[14:30] school. And

[14:32] getting up there is never an issue. It's

[14:35] you. If you're driving three hours to

[14:37] get there to watch a three-hour game and

[14:40] then you got to drive three hours back,

[14:41] unless you're making a night over it,

[14:42] that's where you got to get creative.

[14:44] And the the struggles I have is as you

[14:48] leave the major roadways, whether it be

[14:51] the TransCanada Highway, number two

[14:53] highway that turns into the 15, when you

[14:56] start leaving those major throughways,

[14:59] you start getting into a little bit more

[15:01] privatization of those those charging

[15:03] stations. So speaking to my trip to

[15:06] Edmonton, you you could stop in Red

[15:08] Mader. Obviously there's lots of

[15:10] charging stations there. There's food

[15:11] are all around. You can do your thing.

[15:12] But with our vehicles, it's easy to make

[15:14] it minus 25°.

[15:16] >> Whatever the conditions are, you can

[15:18] make it to Edmonton. But

[15:21] if you want to get those level like

[15:22] those 50k plus or or 100 kilowatt

[15:26] charging stations, in many cases, unless

[15:28] you go to the Electrify Canada, which is

[15:29] quite a bit off the beaten path, you

[15:31] don't want to go to the far west side of

[15:33] Edmonton. if you're going downtown. So,

[15:34] you make it to downtown, you have to

[15:36] stop in at one of the dealers, and if

[15:38] you get there at 7:00 for for a 7:30

[15:41] game, you don't realize that if that

[15:43] dealership's closed,

[15:45] >> so is the access to the charging

[15:46] station. So then you're sitting there in

[15:48] a panic going, "Well, I don't want to

[15:51] just put it on a regular or an 8

[15:53] kilowatt charging station that everybody

[15:55] has a level two charger because you're

[15:57] going to get maybe 15 20% back into it

[16:00] and you're going to be wandering around

[16:02] after the game trying to figure out what

[16:03] to do. So

[16:05] it's not that our vehicles aren't

[16:06] capable. It's that once you you leave

[16:09] those major thoroughways, it's very

[16:11] difficult to find something that you can

[16:13] rely on that you know is going to be not

[16:16] available but readily working and

[16:18] accessible.

[16:19] >> That's been my only frustration is when

[16:21] you when you're traveling and then yeah,

[16:23] there's there's chargers everywhere, but

[16:25] now I got to download an app for this

[16:26] charger. I got to download a different

[16:28] app for this charger and then you go and

[16:31] you got to preload it with money and

[16:32] then you get there and it doesn't work.

[16:34] And it's it I get why it can be

[16:36] frustrating for some people. Um having

[16:39] access to the Tesla charge network now

[16:42] is awesome, right? Superchargers and

[16:44] whatnot. But I think that was the

[16:46] biggest failure was the the actual

[16:48] charge network out there.

[16:50] >> Yeah. I that's was my greatest

[16:53] frustration particularly when we did the

[16:56] road trip to California. Uh, and it's

[16:58] amazing how much things have changed

[16:59] over time, but you know, this isn't like

[17:02] a anti-government podcast, right? So, I

[17:05] mean, but I do want to say that I think

[17:07] that the greatest limiting factor of

[17:09] people making the decision to buy an EV

[17:12] has nothing to do with the technology in

[17:13] the EV, has everything to do with the

[17:15] infrastructure. And where there's

[17:18] massive hypocrisy from governments is

[17:20] the fact that they will push and push

[17:23] and push the EVs and incentivize the

[17:25] EVs, but they'll do nothing to regulate

[17:27] the charging infrastructure.

[17:29] >> Nothing. They will have no involvement

[17:31] whatsoever. There is a ProCanada in

[17:34] Golden that since the day I started

[17:36] driving an EV has never worked. It's a

[17:38] 200 kowatt charger. It shows up on the

[17:40] network. It shows up as being available

[17:41] to to hook up to. It never works. I've

[17:44] went in and spoken to the people several

[17:46] times. I've put a complaint into Petra

[17:48] Canada about it and [clears throat]

[17:49] nothing. They've never fixed it.

[17:51] >> And then you're forced to use the

[17:53] Electrify Canada as you enter Golden. I

[17:55] mean, it's a 4-hour drive. It's about 3

[17:57] and a half from Calgary. Where do you go

[17:58] to the bathroom?

[17:59] >> You leave you leave at 6:00 in the

[18:01] morning. You get there at 10:00. The the

[18:03] restaurant, great restaurant there, but

[18:04] they don't open till till lunchtime.

[18:06] >> Yeah.

[18:07] >> And you're sitting there wondering what

[18:08] to do.

[18:09] >> Yeah. Well, and once again, there is no

[18:12] government force task force that

[18:16] enforces this. I mean, could you imagine

[18:18] if gas stations all of a sudden all had

[18:21] a problem and they couldn't pump gas

[18:23] anymore

[18:24] >> or you had to download a different app?

[18:25] >> Yeah.

[18:26] >> For every single gas station.

[18:27] >> But I mean, what would the government

[18:28] do? I mean, it would put the entire

[18:31] world in crisis. Like, the entire

[18:33] country would be in crisis. They would

[18:34] call, you know, the National Guard to

[18:37] come in and deal with it, right? But for

[18:39] EVs, they could care less. There's

[18:41] nobody to regulate it. And the funny

[18:43] thing is about this is that a lot of

[18:45] these charging stations actually

[18:46] received government subsidy to be

[18:48] produced.

[18:50] >> And yet the government doesn't do

[18:51] anything to regulate or enforce the fact

[18:54] that they have to be a reliable network

[18:56] to the people that are out there. Like

[18:58] literally, they'll leave you stranded.

[18:59] But at the same time, they're talking

[19:02] out of both sides of their mouth because

[19:03] they're telling you, "No, you should buy

[19:04] an EV and no, you've got to conform to

[19:07] these standards and you know, hey

[19:09] manufacturer, you got to produce so many

[19:10] different EVs so that you can make these

[19:12] V12s and and V8s and oh, your V8 V12s

[19:16] and V8s are too loud because, you know,

[19:18] you're putting out too many decibels for

[19:19] these EVs." But if you can't charge your

[19:22] EV, we're not going to do anything about

[19:24] it. That's your problem.

[19:26] >> Yeah.

[19:26] >> Right. I mean, it's completely

[19:28] backwards. It makes absolutely no sense.

[19:31] What's cool about it is because the

[19:33] infrastructure is so unreliable and I

[19:36] I'll be the first to say that it's so

[19:37] unreliable, particularly in North

[19:39] America, it has forced manufacturers to

[19:42] become much more innovative with driving

[19:44] range.

[19:44] >> Mhm.

[19:45] >> Um the new CLA having an over 800 km

[19:47] range is mind-blowing. I mean, it's so

[19:50] much greater than that of a gas

[19:52] equivalent that we've ever seen in a CLA

[19:54] 250 before.

[19:55] >> Yeah.

[19:55] >> Um so you're it's costing you less money

[19:57] to run it. It's costing less money for

[19:59] maintenance. Uh, and it's not priced a

[20:02] whole lot more than a gas CLA. But

[20:05] they're forced into doing that because

[20:06] they're trying to overcompensate for

[20:08] people's insecurities about the

[20:10] infrastructure. And so they're saying,

[20:12] well, you don't have to care about the

[20:13] infrastructure. Our car goes so far,

[20:15] you're going to plug in at some point. I

[20:16] mean, how many times are you going to

[20:18] drive over 800 km in a day? You're not.

[20:20] >> Well, not not in a single run.

[20:22] >> No.

[20:22] >> And I mean, it's not just the fact the

[20:24] CLA you can get so far. It's how fast

[20:26] it'll charge as well.

[20:27] >> Yeah. I mean, that is the one thing

[20:29] that's seriously lost in in

[20:32] conversation. It's how fast can you get

[20:34] back on the road in any of these.

[20:36] >> Yeah, it has 800 volt technology, right?

[20:38] >> 800 volt technology. Um, and and that's

[20:42] not really the only thing, but the new

[20:45] battery design, it actually has um a

[20:48] battery that for your primary usage

[20:51] where it'll charge at a slower rate, um

[20:54] it's it's a less expensive battery to

[20:56] produce. And then there's a a secondary

[20:58] component of the battery that is more

[21:00] costly to produce, but that's your core

[21:02] battery that you work off of. So it's

[21:03] almost like I don't want to call it a

[21:06] semi-olid state, but it would be similar

[21:07] to that idea, right? And that's how

[21:09] they're able to keep the cost down. And

[21:11] I think that that's going to get to be a

[21:13] lot more innovative as time goes along.

[21:16] And my god, like when they figure out

[21:17] semi-olid state, being able to make it

[21:19] affordable,

[21:21] you know, as much as I love gas

[21:22] vehicles, I can't see a future for them

[21:24] at that point because you're dealing

[21:26] with this UCLA

[21:28] where it's got over 800 km of range um

[21:31] on where where it is from right now for

[21:34] today. What's going to happen when it

[21:36] starts breaking 1,000 km of range and uh

[21:39] it starts charging in 5 minutes instead

[21:41] of 8 minutes to put 320 km in like it

[21:43] does right now? I mean, it's going to

[21:45] get to the point that,

[21:47] >> you know, filling up your car, which if

[21:50] you've owned an EV, becomes an

[21:52] inconvenience. You have to actually fill

[21:54] up your car at a gas station, uh, where

[21:56] you could just plug it in at home or

[21:57] plug it in at work, that's more

[21:59] convenient, just like your cell phone.

[22:01] >> But when you get to the point that

[22:04] filling that battery takes less time

[22:06] than filling your fuel tank, it's game

[22:08] changer.

[22:09] >> Yeah, big game changer. And it sucks for

[22:11] guys like myself that really do love gas

[22:14] vehicles. Um, I do feel like I'd love to

[22:18] have the fight and put up the fight that

[22:19] there's going to be a place for gas

[22:20] vehicles long term. Uh, I think that

[22:23] we're of a dying breed that is going to,

[22:27] you know, and a very small part of the

[22:30] market that still will love and enjoy

[22:33] the the gas vehicles. Um,

[22:35] >> well, when they first launched these

[22:36] EVs, everyone made the the assumption,

[22:39] the joke, I mean, you and I see it on

[22:40] the on the showroom floors where it was

[22:42] you're going to have your your everyday

[22:44] gas vehicles and the EV will be our

[22:47] weekender vehicle where they can just

[22:49] putt around, but it's actually going to

[22:50] see a total reverse

[22:52] >> where it's going to be

[22:53] >> and and that's what I talked about with

[22:55] the whole hybrid thing is

[22:57] >> if if I end up going with the current

[23:00] generation GLC hybrid or the current

[23:02] generation GLE hybrid,

[23:05] You can drive in electric mode 75 80

[23:08] kilometers depending on conditions which

[23:10] is 95% of our daily commutes. That's all

[23:13] we would do. You can still charge it at

[23:15] your destinations. But on those times

[23:17] when you want to go on a long road trip,

[23:19] you're just going to drive in gas mode

[23:20] and use the hybrid technology. But to

[23:22] what you're saying, we're going to start

[23:24] seeing people that are going to, I

[23:27] guess, reluctantly convert buy the EVs.

[23:30] But hopefully going back to that whole

[23:33] EPA standard and the ratio, if you have

[23:35] all these now electric vehicles in

[23:37] there, now you can really start seeing

[23:39] the the AMG and you can start seeing all

[23:41] these brands say, "Okay, let's bring

[23:43] back the big boys, the big V12s or

[23:46] whatnot." And that'll be the weekend

[23:48] cruisers. That'll be the the go out and

[23:49] have some fun.

[23:50] >> And I think that that that's an

[23:52] optimistic approach. And I hope you're

[23:54] right. I don't think you are.

[23:56] >> Yeah. Uh I think ultimately what's going

[23:58] to happen is the threshold is going to

[24:00] become narrower and what they're going

[24:02] to say is the regulation in terms of the

[24:04] amount is going to become a smaller and

[24:06] smaller percent and we're going to get

[24:08] to probably be that and once again it's

[24:10] government involvement. It's starting to

[24:12] really sound like an anti-government

[24:13] podcast but it's going to be government

[24:14] involvement and it's it's going to come

[24:16] down to the point that they're going to

[24:18] regulate at some point. could be as soon

[24:20] as a decade from now. Um where they're

[24:23] going to say you can't produce any. Like

[24:25] in order for you to have any vehicle

[24:28] that burns a drop of gas, you've got to

[24:30] pay this insane gas guzzler tax to be

[24:33] able to use that vehicle.

[24:34] >> I could see that. I could see that. And

[24:36] there's also more there's like synthetic

[24:38] fuels that are coming out F1 next year,

[24:40] right? Moving to synthetic fuels. So

[24:42] it's going to be interesting to see what

[24:44] happens on the gas front. Yeah, it's

[24:47] going to become very similar to um

[24:52] I guess the processed mainstream food

[24:55] that's really cheap to produce, like

[24:56] when you go through a McDonald's

[24:58] drive-thru, is going to be your EVs. And

[25:00] the really expensive high-end type of

[25:02] delicacies that are very expensive to

[25:05] produce and require a lot of butters and

[25:07] spices and stuff to to make are going to

[25:10] be your gas vehicles. And eventually gas

[25:12] vehicles are going to be exclusive to

[25:15] people having fun with weekend toys.

[25:18] >> Um much the same as a jet. If you own a

[25:21] private jet, it is one of the most

[25:24] environmentally inefficient

[25:27] and financially inefficient ways to

[25:29] travel. It really is if you own a

[25:31] private jet, but for a lot of people,

[25:34] they will not give up that private jet.

[25:36] And we have clients with private jets

[25:37] and they'll not fly on anything else.

[25:40] But

[25:42] it is reserved to people of that level

[25:44] of affluence and I feel like uh gas

[25:47] vehicles are going to end up going that

[25:49] direction and this is a last of an era

[25:52] and I mean I want to enjoy it for as

[25:54] much as possible. I mean Justin has

[25:58] is arguably less of a car guy than I am

[26:00] and which is why he's jumping into the

[26:02] CLA. He prefers the CLA electric. He

[26:04] prefers uh you know the technology and

[26:07] the newest and the latest and greatest

[26:08] which is pretty neat. Uh, I'm going the

[26:10] opposite direction. I'm going to go with

[26:11] a CLA45S final edition because that is

[26:15] an exciting, fun, pocket rocket of a car

[26:19] and cars are only getting bigger because

[26:21] people are getting bigger and so it's

[26:24] kind of hard to find something that's

[26:25] that small. And a CLA 45s today is not

[26:28] that small by comparison to what cars

[26:30] were 10, 15 years ago.

[26:32] >> But they're only going to get bigger.

[26:34] Like the new CLA electric is bigger than

[26:36] the current CLA. And uh so you know for

[26:39] me getting into something that's

[26:40] lightweight, small, makes some noise,

[26:43] has some fun is a little bit more

[26:46] enjoyable on that level makes me feel a

[26:48] little bit younger for a little bit

[26:49] longer. And uh and that's probably why I

[26:53] want to get back into that. I mean, I've

[26:54] been driving this EQS AMG now uh for

[26:57] almost a couple years and

[27:00] I am really struggling to love it today,

[27:04] you know. Um, so

[27:07] >> I love my

[27:08] >> I just love it.

[27:09] >> Yeah. See, and I'm struggling to love

[27:11] this thing from today. Part of the

[27:12] reason is it's huge. I don't like the

[27:14] size. Um, you know, I I do like large

[27:17] cars from time to time for a bit of a

[27:20] drive, but on the day-to-day commute, I

[27:21] don't like feeling like I'm driving an

[27:23] 18-wheeler through a parking lot and uh

[27:26] looking for a parking stall that fits

[27:28] that car when I it's usually just me in

[27:30] the car. So, I like small cars. Um, the

[27:33] second thing though is I find the whole

[27:37] performance EVs thing to be a bit of an

[27:40] oxymor. You know, it's it's it's kind of

[27:43] a struggle to have these vehicles that

[27:46] pipe in this fake sound and give you

[27:48] this fake experience to tell you that

[27:50] you're driving something that's really

[27:52] high performance and

[27:54] >> is going to be engaging. I think Hyende

[27:56] did a fantastic job with the Ionic N.

[27:59] Um,

[28:00] >> very cool. really really cool.

[28:02] >> It has all the shifts and the revs and

[28:04] everything.

[28:04] >> Well, and that's funny you brought up

[28:05] the shifts because I think that's the

[28:06] biggest thing that's lacking with an EV

[28:08] is is the lack of a transmission.

[28:11] >> And apparently AMG does have some really

[28:13] cool technology that's coming out in the

[28:15] CLA

[28:17] electric AMG version, right? It's going

[28:19] to be like that, but it's their own

[28:20] patent and everything and it's supposed

[28:22] to have your own shift patterns and

[28:23] everything. So, that could be really

[28:25] exciting.

[28:25] >> Well, in the absence of noise

[28:27] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[28:28] >> And the absence of the shifting, the

[28:30] kids get car sick so fast. And I mean,

[28:33] it's wild because again, I've been

[28:34] driving the C43 now for a couple months

[28:36] and when I'm driving them around, it's

[28:39] just back to normal. But then when they

[28:40] jump in our EQS that we still have,

[28:43] they're instantly not used to the fact

[28:46] that it's silent.

[28:47] >> Yeah.

[28:47] >> Obviously, you have the you have to put

[28:49] the noise in to help out, but the lack

[28:52] of shift and the the instant performance

[28:54] that you get, it throws them off. And I

[28:57] mean, for me, I love the EV only because

[29:00] I'm lazy, admittedly. Like, it's it's

[29:03] not I'm not doing it to to save anyone

[29:05] or to save the environment. Shame on me.

[29:07] It's I'm just lazy. And the fact that I

[29:10] could charge it overnight and I can get

[29:12] in the car and go. I mean, that's

[29:14] probably the the worst way to look at an

[29:16] EV, but that's just the truth. I mean,

[29:20] that's that's the only reason.

[29:21] >> I think that's the best part of an EV.

[29:23] That's what I love the most. you plug it

[29:25] in and then every morning you have a

[29:27] full tank of gas.

[29:28] >> But that's not the design of it. That's

[29:29] not They're not sitting there saying,

[29:30] "How can we make it more convenient for

[29:32] our buyers?" It's it's supposed to be

[29:34] mutually beneficial. But selfishly, I

[29:37] just do it because that's how I want to

[29:40] go. That's I do it for me. And

[29:41] >> it's nice not having to go to a gas

[29:43] station.

[29:44] >> Yeah. I mean, that was the benefit when

[29:46] we did the road trip to California. Um,

[29:49] one of the greatest strengths was when

[29:51] you stay at a hotel, which we planned

[29:52] all of our stays to be at hotels that

[29:54] had EV chargers, is that I'm an early

[29:56] riser. I'd have the car packed ready to

[29:58] go. The kids would wake up, feed them

[30:00] breakfast, and we our first stop is not

[30:02] for over 3 hours, which was really great

[30:05] about driving the EV on that road trip.

[30:08] Um, also, you always had something to do

[30:11] when we were stopped, right? Because the

[30:14] kids always want to get out. you know,

[30:16] the dog wanted to go do its business and

[30:19] so you could fill that time while you

[30:20] were waiting for it to charge. Um, so

[30:23] there there there was benefits to it and

[30:25] yeah, there is a component to to an EV

[30:28] that does deliver some convenience, but

[30:30] for the most part, given the

[30:33] infrastructure from a road trip

[30:34] perspective, it is more inconvenient

[30:36] than it is convenient, right? And I

[30:38] mean, you went on your own in the G

[30:39] Wagon in the G580 and you weren't

[30:42] traveling with a family. So,

[30:44] >> no, it was just me, cameraman, um,

[30:47] Calgary to Vancouver, and we use the

[30:49] Tesla network, right? Superchargers. It

[30:52] was easy. It was easy.

[30:54] >> You almost didn't make it.

[30:56] >> Uh, well, that's Yeah, that's not the

[30:58] car's fault. Um, that was uh some uh

[31:01] construction on the road where we had to

[31:02] take a detour. I thought it was a great

[31:04] video, but um that Tesla charger with

[31:08] that G Wagon, you know, there was I

[31:09] remember we pulled into Hope with like

[31:11] 4% battery and we're like we're going to

[31:13] miss our flight and that thing was

[31:15] charging up to I think 190 kW. Um and

[31:19] you know, we go in, we uh went to the

[31:22] bathroom real quick and then next thing

[31:23] you know, you come out and we had like

[31:25] 40% battery. We're like, let's get on

[31:27] the road. Let's go. It was it was uh it

[31:29] was impressive. It was a good road trip.

[31:32] Um,

[31:32] >> but you know what when you're talking

[31:34] about this and what you experienced on

[31:35] your road trip per se, what you didn't

[31:38] experience uh that I also did not

[31:40] experience on the road trip to LA, but

[31:43] that did change later on. I'll get to

[31:44] that in a second, is showing up to a

[31:47] charger where they're full

[31:48] >> and you have nowhere to plug in and

[31:50] you're waiting for somebody to get off

[31:51] that charger to get in, which is also

[31:54] adding to further inconvenience. And so,

[31:56] um, when we did the road trip to LA, we

[31:59] were very fortunate that I never ran

[32:00] into that scenario. And that was in 2023

[32:04] when there was a lot less EVs on the

[32:05] road. And the emergence of EVs was

[32:07] starting to take place at that point.

[32:09] And so, we we um we didn't really ever

[32:13] pull up and have that situation. I the

[32:15] very next year we were back in LA. We

[32:18] flew in and at LAX they had a really

[32:20] really cool I can't remember what EV it

[32:23] was but it had just come out and I said,

[32:25] "Oh yeah, I'll take that as an upgrade."

[32:28] And the guy at the rental counter goes,

[32:30] "Man, you you don't want a EV."

[32:33] What do you mean you don't want a EV?

[32:34] Goes, "Oh, like you know how bad the

[32:36] wait times are here for the EVs? Like

[32:38] you're gonna be waiting to charge that

[32:40] car every single day? Like it's so

[32:42] busy."

[32:43] >> [snorts]

[32:43] >> they had had so many EVs and so much

[32:45] success with the sale of EVs in that

[32:48] window of time, you know, in that one

[32:50] year that had lapsed that there was way

[32:52] too many EVs on the road than there was

[32:54] chargers. And so

[32:56] if you don't have home charging in that

[32:58] scenario, it was a major inconvenience.

[33:00] And I was very grateful that that guy

[33:02] gave me that sound advice cuz

[33:04] >> right by my in-laws place, I went by

[33:06] those same chargers that we used to use

[33:07] when we were charging the EQS during

[33:09] those times. And there was a lineup onto

[33:11] the street every single day. And you

[33:15] know, that's that's the big thing. In

[33:17] order for EVs to really progress to the

[33:19] level of where ICE is going to end up

[33:21] being, which I think is going to happen

[33:22] fairly quickly cuz the candles burning

[33:24] at both ends, they're going to have to

[33:26] get to that. Um, you know,

[33:28] >> well, the irony of all this is when we

[33:31] first started this project and you guys

[33:33] had the vision for all this, our first

[33:36] video the three of us did was the

[33:38] S-Class versus the EQS versus the S

[33:41] hybrid.

[33:42] >> And I rocked the S hybrid. You had the

[33:44] EQS.

[33:45] >> Had the gas.

[33:46] >> You had the gas. and to to watch not not

[33:49] your despise or hatred, but to to see

[33:53] how you've evolved back to being your

[33:55] true car self and how much you missed

[33:58] the ice and you were selling us so hard

[34:00] on your your EQS. And ironically, you

[34:03] you put me into an EQS 2 years ago. I

[34:05] end up falling in love with the car. But

[34:07] I mean, I

[34:09] there's there's no secret our next

[34:11] family car is going to be either that

[34:13] GLE hybrid or the GLC hybrid until the

[34:16] allnew GLC electric comes out. And

[34:18] again, selfishly, I'll be in that CLA.

[34:20] It's just it's funny that how we started

[34:22] this almost 3 years ago was you were

[34:26] actually showcasing the EQS. I stuck to

[34:29] the the hybrid and you were in the ice,

[34:31] Chris. So, it's it's neat that 3 years

[34:34] later to see how you feel about it and

[34:37] and and true life situations. It's a

[34:40] very neat situation you put yourself in.

[34:42] >> Yeah. I I think I think you know I have

[34:45] a lot of respect and appreciation for

[34:47] EVs and I and I think that there's no

[34:50] doubt in my mind no matter how much I

[34:52] want to fight it that they will take

[34:54] over because as much as I may like gas

[34:57] vehicles today the next generation could

[34:59] care less. Right. Yeah. I mean my eldest

[35:03] daughter 11 years old taught her how to

[35:05] drive a manual transmission. She's

[35:07] excited about it. She's miss anti-EV

[35:10] loves the sound of the exhaust

[35:12] everything else. My second child could

[35:14] care less. She would rather be

[35:16] chauffeurred if she could be right. And

[35:17] that's really the

[35:18] >> self-driving car.

[35:20] >> Self-driving, you know. And I mean that

[35:21] that's the next generation. The reality

[35:23] is is that they are desensitized in

[35:25] general to what's what's going on that's

[35:27] out there is this next generation could

[35:30] could care less for the

[35:31] >> I joked with my son that when he turns

[35:33] 16 in a couple months he's going to get

[35:35] an EV and he was pissed.

[35:36] >> Yeah. He wants a gas car.

[35:39] >> Yeah, but that's he's he's not the norm.

[35:42] The norm is is they want to have uh

[35:44] >> they care more about the tech and uh

[35:47] it's like a phone inside, right?

[35:49] >> Well, and the amount of kids that are

[35:51] being pushed all the time and friends of

[35:53] mine that their kids are now getting

[35:54] their driver old enough to have their

[35:56] driver's license that they don't want to

[35:57] go get it. They don't they don't want to

[36:00] get their driver's license. they'd

[36:01] rather just take the bus or if they have

[36:02] the one friend that drives or they take

[36:04] an Uber, to them a car is an

[36:06] inconvenience, right? So, it's it's it's

[36:09] it's a lack of of having an interest to

[36:12] begin with. And um you look at what's

[36:15] happening in places like Japan, for

[36:16] example, right? They're they're

[36:18] struggling for, you know, those

[36:20] teenagers to actually have sexual

[36:24] relations with one another. It's true.

[36:26] It's an actual known fact. Like,

[36:28] >> how do we get to that? But it's true

[36:30] because they're more sensit they're so

[36:32] desensitized at this point that they're

[36:34] more stimulated by video games and

[36:36] virtual and things along that line. And

[36:39] they say that that does foretell the

[36:41] future of what's going on out there. And

[36:42] it's the same thing with auto with these

[36:44] cars at the end of the day like they

[36:46] don't care about having the feeling of a

[36:48] transmission or the sound or whatever it

[36:50] is. They just want to get there.

[36:51] >> Mhm.

[36:51] >> Right. And um you know, I mean, not to

[36:55] keep going down the sexual path of

[36:57] things, but that's my struggle with the

[36:59] EVs in general, especially when we run

[37:01] them at the dragstrip. Having a lack of

[37:03] transmission is is a is a real problem

[37:06] for me. Like I don't like that feeling

[37:09] of not having a transmission overall. Um

[37:12] >> so you've lost your complete sex drive

[37:14] with two EQs in your car.

[37:16] >> Yeah. Well, complete. You know what it

[37:17] is? It's I was thinking about it the

[37:18] other day. I was like, man, you know,

[37:19] when you punch this this EV and you go

[37:21] full out, it just gets to this point

[37:23] where it just has this like power peak

[37:25] and it just stays there and you're just

[37:26] perpetually ex accelerating with no

[37:29] additional feeling or sound and it's

[37:30] just the numbers are going up.

[37:32] >> I mean, you have 700 plus horsepower,

[37:34] but none of us feel bad for you right

[37:36] now. No, no, but it's not it's not it's

[37:38] not enough to give you the feeling

[37:40] overall like you need that sense of

[37:42] satisfaction, that sense of completion

[37:43] that's you know coming to the next, you

[37:46] know,

[37:47] >> gear,

[37:47] >> arriving to the next gear, getting to

[37:49] the next one above that, kicking down a

[37:51] transmission. You want that feeling. You

[37:53] want those pops and bangs.

[37:55] >> And for me, maybe it's a bit of

[37:56] nostalgia. You know, I can be I love old

[37:59] cars, too. So, for me, I'm still hung up

[38:02] on to that. But there's no denying the

[38:05] fact that, you know, EVs are going to

[38:08] end up taking over because ultimately in

[38:10] the Dave, nobody cares enough about it,

[38:12] right? So, you know, Justin's a huge

[38:15] watch guy. You love the intricacies of a

[38:18] fancy watch, but most people just want

[38:19] to tell time.

[38:21] >> Most expensive part of a watch is its

[38:23] movement.

[38:24] >> Yeah, it's true. And just like for us, I

[38:27] might be I might be a big car guy,

[38:30] right? But I'm not a watch geek. And

[38:31] that's why I have a smartwatch. And

[38:32] that's why you have a smartwatch because

[38:34] we don't want to just tell time. We want

[38:36] to know what our heart rate's at and

[38:37] who's sending a text message and an

[38:39] email.

[38:40] >> So, you like the moving parts of a gas

[38:41] vehicle.

[38:43] >> I like the simplicity of the EV. You

[38:45] like the simplicity of a smartwatch. I

[38:47] like the moving parts. And you're the

[38:48] technician.

[38:49] >> Yeah.

[38:50] >> Yeah.

[38:50] >> Yeah. I I I could go with an EV as a

[38:54] daily. It's a great daily car like you

[38:56] were saying, right? But then on the

[38:58] weekend, have a nice gas gas motor,

[39:01] something to rip around in.

[39:03] >> Yeah, I think you're making a very valid

[39:05] point. When you're stuck in traffic,

[39:07] >> you'd rather just have your back

[39:08] massaged, not hear a thing, listen to us

[39:11] on a podcast, for example.

[39:13] >> But you don't care about the downshift.

[39:16] You don't care if you've got 500, 700,

[39:18] 200 horsepower. You just want to be warm

[39:20] on that cold morning getting to work and

[39:23] comfortable.

[39:23] >> And then on the weekend, have something

[39:25] fun.

[39:25] >> Yeah.

[39:26] >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's I think that's

[39:27] where it's going to end up going. Um you

[39:30] know we should talk about maybe on the

[39:32] next time we'll have a conversation

[39:33] about how much EVs have have had a

[39:36] positive influence on performance and

[39:39] >> e performance

[39:40] >> e performance in particular. That's

[39:41] maybe a whole another topic that we need

[39:42] to uh to address at some point. But uh

[39:46] you know the C63 for example, Ferrari

[39:49] 296

[39:51] things you know they got really shot

[39:53] down to begin with because of the

[39:54] anti-Eness overall. But we need to talk

[39:57] about how awesome of a vehicle that they

[39:59] are.

[40:00] >> Well the 53s you've been driving on the

[40:02] track 53 performance

[40:04] >> of the future what's coming out next

[40:05] with AMG. It's it's incredible.

[40:08] >> Yeah that's the next topic that we need

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