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[00:09] [laughter] YEAR OF THE HORSE, BABY, AND WE GOT A GREAT show for you guys today. [laughter] There's big changes at Xbox after nearly There's big changes at Xbox after nearly 40 years. Phil Spencer is out at

[00:22] Microsoft. So, we'll be talking about that. We'll also be talking about how that. We'll also be talking about how gamers apparently overwhelmingly gamers apparently overwhelmingly prefer DLSS over FSR and in some cases

[00:35] prefer DLSS over FSR and in some cases over native. Is that is I could that be right? What else we got today? If you didn't like GPUs being up, if you didn't going to like hard drives being up. Hard drive capacity for Western Digital is

[00:49] drive capacity for Western Digital is sold out for 2026. That's more sold out than Lionus from Lionus Tech Tips. >> Got them. >> I don't know. >> Oh, come on. [laughter] Come on. There's

[01:01] no way Colton's team has everything sold out through the end of 2020. closed. [laughter] >> There's no way. Don't make me call them. >> And and uh speaking of No, I don't have a transition for this. Uh Google

[01:14] suddenly cares about IP theft when it applies to them, I guess, [laughter] and no one else.

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[02:08] >> We removed one of the Thorum logos. Now everything's [laughter] scripture. >> Yeah. Big changes at Xbox. After nearly 40

[02:22] years with Microsoft, including 12 years leading the company's gaming efforts, Xbox chief Phil Spencer is retiring. Now, before we go any further, Luke, I think, asked the big question on all of our minds before the show started, and I

[02:38] wasn't sure what to say. >> I don't remember how I phrase it, but this good? Is this bad? >> Are we mad? Are we happy? I I mean 12 >> Are we mad? Are we happy? I I mean 12 years at Xbox oversaw a lot of Xbox.

[02:52] >> and a lot of really bad. >> A lot of really really really >> Unfortunately, mostly really bad. >> Well, especially if we factor in like

[03:04] >> things haven't. >> That's that's the thing that I'm struggling with. >> Yeah, things haven't been good lately. >> what Halo game came out 12 years ago? But give me a second here. Give me a

[03:17] second here because as much as things have been kind of bad for the last little while. Um, things might get worse. So, let's get through the rest of the, you know, the notes here. CEO Sachin Nadella announced the departure

[03:31] in a memo to all staff earlier today, thanking Phil for his extraordinary leadership and partnership. Uh, Phil Spencer will remain in an advisory role through the summer to support the transition and Spencer's time at

[03:43] Microsoft saw him working on everything from Enarta. while. Remember the Encyclopedia on CDROM and MS Works in the early years to

[03:55] the $2.5 billion purchase of Mojang Studios in 2014, which seemed crazy at the time, but ended up being like the smartest thing maybe ever. um and their $75 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard in 2023. Xbox President Sarah

[04:10] Bond is also leaving the software giant to begin a new chapter. According to Spencer Asha Sharma, current president of the Asha Sharma, current president of the core AI product, will be taking over as

[04:24] core AI product, will be taking over as CEO of is priceless. You look like you smell a turd. You look like somebody smeared dog

[04:37] on your microphone and you just caught a whiff of it. Chararma left a marketing role at Microsoft in 2013, returning in 2024 and away from Microsoft. Spent time as Meta's VP of product and engineering and

[04:53] later as Instacart's COO. The Verge notes that Chararma is not a gamer like Phil Spencer, but does have consumer experience that should help with leading such a large division of Microsoft. Okay, the memo. Okay, ju just calm down.

[05:12] >> In an internal memo, let me let me read the memo. You don't read so good. the memo. You don't read so good. [laughter]

[05:24] >> That is rude. [laughter] in a tin mist. [laughter] Sorry, I'm in a tin mist. [laughter] Sorry, I'm trying to do it like you. >> Oh my god. >> In an internal memo, Sharma stated,

[05:40] >> I got it. I got it. >> We will celebrate our roots with a renewed commitment to Xbox, starting with console, which has shaped who we are. I assume the console. It connects us to the players and fans who invest in

[05:53] Xbox and to the developers who build ambitious experiences for it. Um, Microsoft's video game revenue dropped by about 10% year-to-year in the

[06:05] December quarter compared to a 17% increase companywide. But it doesn't appear that Chararma will be pushing for a short-term fix, stating, "As monetization and AI evolve and influence this future, we will not chase

[06:20] short-term efficiency or flood our ecosystem with soulless AI slop. Games are and always will be art crafted by humans and created with the most humans and created with the most innovative technology provided by us."

[06:35] Matt Bouty, previously head of Microsoft's gaming studios, has been promoted to executive vice president and chief content officer under Chararma. chief content officer under Chararma. So,

[06:50] >> I always liked that Phil Spencer was legitimately a gamer. >> Yeah, >> I thought it was good. While I did think there was a lot of missteps, the naming of the consoles was actually

[07:04] genuinely significantly negatively impacted sales. Um, and >> and the brand it just makes you look like incompetent dunderheads. >> Yeah. And like we knew this from Wii U when like a massive percentage of people

[07:19] thing for the Wii and didn't realize it was a new console. Like you actually need to name things properly and they just didn't forever. which was crazy. >> The the wildest part is whether it's within the same vertical or even

[07:33] sometimes within the same company when it's so clear by the overwhelming incredible success of simply named products that are easy to understand their positioning within the product stack. C PlayStation 1 2 3 4 5 simple

[07:53] Okay. There's been a little bit of confusion in there, but generally >> for the most part, they've stayed true. >> Yeah. We got the 3GS in there and we got the the X10, whatever you want to call that. There's been the the odd weird

[08:07] there, but they'd come back. >> But in general, we come back to higher >> But in general, we come back to higher number, more better, easy to understand. And then you'll have Microsoft with just the most basswords naming scheme that I

[08:23] think probably exists in technology. And then even Apple themselves where you have this completely indecipherable iPad naming scheme for instance where we naming scheme for instance where we start getting into like you AJ 129

[08:38] uh model year what >> just put a number on it. My god just put a number on it please just tell me what generation of product this is. Um, and there's been missteps, right? >> There's been there's been a considerable

[08:54] amount of missteps, but at the same time, you'd hear that story of people that were like trying to camp him in Fallout 76 and he'd just like fight back like he it

[09:08] was like, okay, >> I could kind of feel like he's one of >> Yeah. a little bit. >> And it did feel like while there were missteps, he was probably trying to steer in the right direction. I think

[09:23] [sighs] >> maybe I mean there's been some big >> there's been some really big missteps. >> Really big missteps. I mean I don't think Game Pass is ultimately turning into what we were sold.

[09:37] into what we were sold. >> We were sold an incredible value and I nothing and be happy. Can I make a really weird take here? >> I don't think Microsoft intended Game Pass to be what it is now.

[09:52] >> I think they wanted it to stay cheaper. >> I think they wanted it to do a lot of things and I think user behavior wasn't exactly what they expected. I think they expected and I think their franchises didn't do what they expected.

[10:09] >> that's fair. I think they thought >> see uh Starfield. >> Starfield. >> Like I I looked into you know what game released the year Phil Spencer took over and it was Master Chief Collection. So

[10:24] it's like okay that's not really fair. Terrible, horrible, legendarily bad launch. But the same year he joined. I don't know. The next one was Halo 5 don't know. The next one was Halo 5 Guardians. It's like I played that here.

[10:38] I don't know if you remember that, but I had to do a controller review of like >> Oh, okay. Yeah. >> So, I went to Willow and I rented it and played it up in the conference room upstairs over like a weekend just to

[10:54] controller. >> Um, and I remember finishing that campaign and just being like, [laughter] as like a massive fan of the first three games. Um, Halo died because

[11:09] first three games. Um, Halo died because Bungie left, not Phil Spencer IMO. Sure. happened there, they hired people that didn't like Halo intentionally.

[11:23] >> Yeah. It's kind of like I mean, and I I I hate to beat this dead horse, but it's kind of like what happened to Star Wars. >> It's almost exactly like what happened same thing. They intentionally hired people that did not like the franchise.

[11:37] "We're trying to make something different." That doesn't You can make that like the franchise. >> Like, >> here's my worry here. So, so I mean, Phil Spencer's legacy is absolutely

[11:50] >> Very complicated. >> He oversaw incredible innovation. I mean, like, let's not overlook some of the really cool stuff that Microsoft did. They were at the cutting edge when it came to accessible technology for

[12:03] >> genuinely really amazing controllers. >> I mean, we I cannot sing Microsoft's >> I mean, we I cannot sing Microsoft's praises loud enough for what they did to make gaming more accessible for people with physical disabilities and and other

[12:18] they really pushed the envelope in a way that couldn't possibly have paid off in in in money. Maybe it was, you know, the cynic in me goes, "Well, maybe they only did it because, you know, they were

[12:32] hoping for the positive press around the brand or whatever." But I don't actually think so because it seemed like a genuine earnest effort to make gaming for everyone. And I just I thought that was so incredibly cool. So, I don't

[12:46] >> so based >> I don't want to take anything away. >> And that cost a lot of money. >> Oh, real money. Actual real money. >> Yeah. Um, but then there's no question that they just couldn't. It's like it's

[13:01] >> they hooked multiple franchises. They closed studios that made amazing games. >> It's like the It's like the It's like the driver was using one of their controllers with with Drift and they just couldn't aim anywhere but down at

[13:15] their own feet sometimes, you know? Like you just they couldn't stop themselves from owning themselves. I'm genuinely not confident that I could get the Xbox models in the right order right now. >> Really?

[13:27] >> I'm not 100% confident that I could. >> I mean, that's not that's not that hard. >> Xbox 360. >> Yeah. >> And then what? >> Xbox One X.

[13:40] >> Okay. And then is it Series? Series S. >> Series S. Yeah. >> Okay. I I think did I get them all? I think I got them all.

[13:52] mean if I saw the names, I I think I would have gotten that in order if that >> Yeah. Like it's comically stupid, but I mean mean um anyway, so back to your point, as

[14:05] complicated as his legacy is for exactly the same reason that, you know, I don't love non-ST Star Wars people being in charge of Star Wars and and I don't love nonsilicon people being in charge of Intel. Yeah,

[14:18] >> I don't love non-gaming people being in charge of gaming. >> And I'm not saying there's no chance. I'm just concerned. >> Well, it's it's extremely >> I do really appreciate that one line.

[14:31] Uh, we're not going to fill it with AI slop. Coming from the AI side of things, they needed to say that. >> They probably got some PR thing that was like, "Hey, you need to say this." >> But hear me out. In that same sentence,

[14:45] right in that same sentence, and AI evolve and influence this future. this sentence. >> Games are and always will be art crafted >> Games are and always will be art crafted by humans. Okay. Doing really good here

[15:00] and created with the most innovative technology provided by us. technology provided by us. >> What innovative technology?

[15:22] and I >> That one That That one's for the millennials. >> Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty good. Uh I I've noticed that especially a lot of history videos

[15:35] >> have started a lot of AI slop showing up. AI generated picture slideshows with an AI voice and I'll notice like a few minutes in I'll be like there's not really breaks between sentences and like

[15:51] AI voices are are pretty good when they're really tuned in. Um and I'll scroll down into the comments and you try to search like did anyone else kind try to search like did anyone else kind of pick this up and you control F for AI

[16:05] because it's like part of different words and stuff. It's uh I feel like words and stuff. It's uh I feel like it's convenient that it's just AI. it's convenient that it's just AI. >> I uh I ended up on Tac Talk Tik Tok Tech

[16:21] uh for the first time in several years because we're doing another trying Tik >> Like you saw it >> like like I saw Tik Toks. Yes, >> Like is that what you're saying?

[16:34] there or you looked at it? >> No, no, I was looking at it. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I was I was uh we were doing another reacting to to Tik Tok tech hacks. And so Adam

[16:46] curated a bunch of like shockingly shockingly large popular creators, large popular creators, shockingly popular pieces of content

[16:59] shockingly popular pieces of content that are just either AI slob with like tens of thousands of hearts, but like bad like wrong advice that you

[17:11] but like bad like wrong advice that you should never follow or people who seem to be just as a as an agent as a human agent for as a as an agent as a human agent for their AI puppet master

[17:24] regurgitating AI garbage that is is stuff that no one should do and and like I I can't believe how how much of it goes to to your point unchallenged or or is not easy to tell

[17:39] garbage. I >> an interesting thing too is there was a >> Yeah. >> Um where somebody was like, "Is this >> I think you got to say the subreddit otherwise you're at risk of sounding

[17:53] like you consulted the Google. >> Sure. Yeah. Sorry. I don't I don't read >> Sure. Yeah. Sorry. I don't I don't read it that often. Uh the subreddit I I I only go to ours and it's not even ours and that's confusing and blah blah blah

[18:05] whatever. Old man yells at cloud. Um, but I went to the subreddit and and there was a thread of somebody who saw some article that was like I don't like HP abandons Windows or something like that and they're like, "Is this

[18:21] or something. I don't remember what it was. Uh, but it was like very clearly AI was. Uh, but it was like very clearly AI generated junk. It was not true. And the comments like roasted him for it. >> And I feel like we're doing the right

[18:35] thing. I feel like we're falling back into shaming people for falling for scams. >> No, he did the right thing to ask. recollection of all time. >> Oh, you have you ain't seen nothing.

[18:50] This man can >> tell me what happened then. Tell me what happened. Huh? Huh? Huh? >> We should get a doesn't remember.

[19:04] like this one. I like doesn't know. Um, but yeah, no, we need to we need to support each other rather than attack each other for seeking truth in a sea of each other for seeking truth in a sea of AI slob. So, let's all let's all form an

[19:19] alliance. We'll make a pact that that's how we're going to respond to people how we're going to respond to people asking about AI with kindness and with um compassion. Okay, cool. Good chat. Why

[19:33] >> are we done with this one? The conclusion is basically just >> I have no idea. We'll see how it goes, but I don't have it. Honestly, >> there's no Okay. Okay. No, you know what? We're not done because to me, the

[19:46] frustrating part of bringing in a non-gamer is not that I think there's job. >> Yeah. Um, I'm not a fashionista, but I think that I have done a good job of trusting the team at Creator Warehouse

[20:01] to do a good job of that part of it while also providing the financial backing and creating an environment that gives them the resources to to create quality products. See, I'm more focused on like how long does it last? Can I

[20:16] these things that I know matter to our customers. And then their job is make sure it like looks cool and um is is not going to, you know, it looks professional at the office and and

[20:30] addresses the the little details that I would overlook because that's from my >> But Phil being a gamer theoretically helps him understand what our customers want. You being dialed in with the audience helps you understand what our

[20:44] >> Yeah. >> I don't know that she is dialed. Maybe she is. I have no idea. But her not being a gamer makes me question >> if she's dialed into that audience. >> So, I'm not saying I'm not saying that

[20:59] they're gonna screw it up. I'm just saying would it have been that hard to >> Doesn't feel like it. >> Like everyone games now. Would it have been that hard

[21:13] cringed when it said like, "Oh, she came from an AI area in Microsoft." is that just seems to be the path now. Like if you're a corporate jockey in Microsoft,

[21:25] you're just getting yourself into some form of AI something because that seems to be the path to everywhere right now, which doesn't seem good. And you know, maybe this is uh pattern recognizing when there is no pattern,

[21:39] >> I mean, it seems kind of like a pattern. >> It seems likely. >> All right, let's jump right into our next topic here. a sponsor read. Actually, we got to do the sponsor read. >> You can do whatever you want.

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[23:08] happening? What is happening right now? Something's happening. I was just handed Something's happening. I was just handed a thing. This is a Thorum box. This is >> This is extremely confusing to me right now. I see DMS is here.

[23:24] now? >> I think you're getting married. >> You are such an observant person. I'm so proud of [laughter] you. >> Are you getting married to me? >> I mean, I wasn't thinking [laughter] of

[23:37] that. Uh, [gasps] This has never happened ON WHO BEFORE. NOBODY TOLD ME. I'M SO UNDERDRESSED. NOBODY TOLD ME. I'M SO UNDERDRESSED. [laughter]

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[24:18] hold on to those for a minute. >> Okay. >> Here. >> Trying to make some space. >> A little bit of shuffling. >> Beautiful.

[24:35] >> All right. >> All right. Welcome everybody to the marriage today. I I I see it's quite a bit of a surprise.

[24:48] How exciting. But we're gathered at this place to state of matrimony of this couple according to order and custom prevailing and under the authority given and provided by me by the province.

[25:03] I charge with you both in the presence of these witnesses that if either of you do not knew or sorry do know of any legal impediment to this marriage, you do now reveal the same. So let DMS repeat after me. I solemnly declare

[25:18] >> that I do not know >> of any lawful impediment >> why I >> may not be joined >> may not be joined

[25:30] >> to mochi >> to mochi >> to mochi >> let Mochi repeat after me. I solemnly >> that I do not know

[25:42] >> of any lawful impediment >> why I >> may not be joined in matrimony >> may not be joined in matrimony >> to DMS >> to DMS

[25:58] >> do you DMS take Mochi to be your lawfully weded take Mochi to be your lawfully weded wife to undertake and to afford Lord, companionship, and the patience of your understanding.

[26:12] >> Oh, I very much do. >> Do you, Mochi, take DMS to be your lawfully witted husband to undertake to afford the love of the person, the comfort of your companionship, the patience of your

[26:26] companionship, the patience of your understanding? Hell yes. Now you let the couple want to join hands.

[26:41] DMS, I call on those present >> I call on those present >> DMS >> DMS >> mochi >> to be my lawfully wedded wife

[26:53] >> to have and to hold >> to have and to hold >> from this day forward >> in whatever circumstances >> or experience >> life may hold for us

[27:05] >> life may hold for us. >> Won't you repeat after me? I I call on >> to witness that I >> to witness that I >> take DMS >> to be my lawfully weded husband

[27:18] >> to have and to hold >> to have and to hold >> in whatever circumstances >> in whatever circumstances >> life may hold for us >> life may hold for us.

[27:31] >> Great. In as much of you have made this declaration of vows concerning one another. Let's get the ring, shall we? And the very important rings.

[27:47] >> Whoop. >> All good. [clears throat] the third finger of Mochi's left hand. Repeat after me. With >> as a token and pledge >> as a token and pledge

[28:01] >> as as of the vows and covenant >> of my word >> I call upon those present >> to witness that I >> DMS >> do take thee

[28:13] >> to be my lawfully wedded wife >> to be my lawfully wedded wife. >> All right, [clears throat] let's do Okay, let Mochi place the ring on the third finger of DMS left hand. With this ring,

[28:28] >> as a token and pledge, >> as a token and pledge >> of my word, >> I call upon those present >> to witness that I >> to witness that I,

[28:40] >> DMS, >> DMS, >> to be my lawfully wedded husband, >> to be my lawfully weded husband.

[28:59] and repeat both of you at the same time. >> In receiving this ring, and give >> to you >> the truth >> and faithfulness and faithfulness of my

[29:13] >> Of my life and marriage. >> Good. Now for as much as DMS and Mochi have consented in legal wedlock have declared your solemn intentions in the company before these witnesses and in my presence have exchanged these rings as a

[29:27] pleasant of your vows and each other. Now upon the authority vested in me by the province, I pronounce you as duly married. You may kiss your bride.

[29:45] [laughter] >> Well, we just met, but congratulations. >> Congratulations, dude. >> Thank you so much. And a shout out to >> Wow. Congratulations. [laughter]

[29:58] >> Congrats. >> And to the witnesses. >> Thank you. [laughter] >> You're welcome. you resume the show. >> All right. [laughter]

[30:10] around. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [laughter] You're good. >> Oh, I'm taking my box for sure. >> that actually hold everybody there. [clears throat]

[30:23] >> Yeah, yeah, sure. Sure, sure. >> Okay, here. Let me get the chair out of >> All right, Sammy. Way to go. >> Sorry, everyone get mad at me. here. >> I'm block this. Sorry, guys. All right.

[30:39] >> I'm block this. Sorry, guys. All right. Ready? One, two. [laughter] >> All right. Congrats. Congratulations.

[31:02] >> Well, that's a thing that's never happened before. [laughter] witnesses. >> Um, [clears throat]

[31:14] [laughter] Just so we're clear, like that was very real. >> Oh, that was 100% real. >> Yeah. Yeah. Legally blinding. >> Yeah. We We both just fully attended a

[31:28] >> And so did Dan and so did all of you. >> Yeah. Everybody here. >> Yeah. first on W show >> that um

[31:41] so hard to not laugh the whole time cuz I looked over [laughter] at you and you were I could watch your brain as as every step progressed. You just be like, "Really?" And then I [laughter] saw at one point in time you were like, "Wait,

[31:56] then you're like, "Wait, does that mean it's real?" And then like some step happened. I saw your face just go like, "No [laughter] way."

[32:10] all this computation happen in Lionus's head and that was what that [laughter] head and that was what that [laughter] was so entertaining the whole time. was so entertaining the whole time. Wow, that's so cool. I um I'm very very

[32:24] honored. I wish I had dressed up a little bit but nobody told me. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I was supposed to have a dress shirt under my jacket, but then I left it buttoned on the hanger and I and I

[32:39] only had the ad spot to try to get it on. So, I like trying to unbutton it the threw the jacket on. So, >> this is my undershirt. >> this is my undershirt. >> All I saw I saw Sammy come in.

[32:51] I saw Luke start changing his clothes and I was reading about husband and wife Caleb and Steph and whatever and I thought maybe there was like a funny involved him being dressed up. Then I saw Dan whip the zoom for the main

[33:06] saw Dan whip the zoom for the main camera and I was like, [laughter] "Okay, >> I had so many cues to hit in like 5 seconds. someone else back there? >> That was uh That was Jordan.

[33:19] >> Yeah. >> Nice. Solid. [laughter] >> Did you Did you not notice anything about me? I >> I mean, I noticed you changing Oh, you're like wearing fancy shoes

[33:34] >> I have cologne on. >> Yeah, I would never in a thousand years >> No. >> I thought I was going to give it away the whole time in the pre-show.

[33:46] >> Yeah. >> So, that was something. But you hair was going to get away. >> Every once in a while it happens. Bearded less often, especially not at the same time. That should have been a

[34:00] beard, sometimes he'll clean up the hair. Very rarely on the same week. >> Yeah, I was trying to hide. I had like color matched a bunch of things. The and I thought, "Oh, are they still

[34:14] here?" >> Uh, I think they're busy. >> Yeah. And I didn't get I get didn't get >> The only nice one. Get wrecked. >> What the heck?

[34:37] I thought this was Chinese New Year. >> That's good. That's good. >> I don't think so. >> Like, was that what people Cuz when is >> I think it was this week. >> Hold on. When is Chinese New Year? Oh,

[34:53] yeah. Yeah, it was It was 3 days ago. It's It's right now. >> Perfect. Like it's totally it's totally Chinese New Year right now, I think. Right. Uh blah blah blah. Tuesday, February 17th, 2026, and that's the

[35:07] beginning of the year of the Firehorse, which lasts until February 5th, 2027. Um Festival, typically run for 16 days ending on March 3rd, 2026. So, I was like, "Yeah, this this totally checked out. I just didn't understand." So, this

[35:22] is why you guys were memeing earlier cuz I was all like >> you you said something to Sammy about how like Yeah. Didn't you set it up? And >> Mhm. >> Anyway. Yeah.

[35:38] >> I actually didn't know that it was just had these. I know the red and white was intentional, but the rest of it like >> Well, I thought the red was because it's Chinese New Year.

[35:52] >> Probably both. Yeah. >> Um >> So, did Thorum sponsor the wedding? >> Yeah. >> That's why it's said your business team

[36:07] >> Yeah. [laughter] Cuz there's actually been like a bunch of people in the loop on this for like a while. >> What? [laughter]

[36:19] >> Not everybody at the company. >> Yeah. >> Uh Chewy says, "This may actually be the most genuine that Lionus has been pranked on camera." Every prank on me on camera was genuine. So, it's just

[36:31] camera was genuine. So, it's just whether um you know, it came across in the in the edit or not is basically what it comes down to. Like when Dennis was living in my house multiple times, I did not know. Um [snorts] I I would never

[36:44] fake a prank. That is that is uh that should be a crime. That should that you should go to YouTube jail for faking a >> It's like most pranks. >> Yeah, that's not okay. Uh

[36:58] all right. So, >> he's still there. I couldn't find him. >> If you guys want to do another topic, I'll go have a look. >> Listen, I will never deny getting teareyed at a wedding. It's a It's a

[37:10] teareyed at a wedding. It's a It's a very emotional time and I I cannot help but be happy for super cool people starting a life together. That's it's it's exciting and it's happy and uh

[37:22] anyone who thinks men shouldn't cry at weddings can go themselves. >> Yeah. I don't take for today we can or should say but I'm I'm I'm very happy >> I think it's their story. We'll let them tell the story in the way that they deem

[37:37] best >> once they have figured out um you know whatever it is that >> you know they're doing for for right now that is not in the public eye. No, that's not stop it. No, no, no. I meant

[37:53] >> you immediately smiled and looked at me. Oh, because I realized [laughter] >> because I realized I just meant whatever they whatever they they can talk they're good and ready. That's what I'm trying to say. Stop it.

[38:11] >> Yeah, sure, man. [gasps] That's why they left so fast. They're just really excited to go talk about their the rest of their personal lives.

[38:23] >> Anyway, >> EXCLUSIVE [laughter] the platform. >> Technically, no. Well, >> why do you have to think >> they'd have to make it artistic? No. No.

[38:38] >> Because the payment processors. >> Oh, that's right. >> Yeah. So, that's that's why lore for some people, that's why for a long time, adult content creators on Patreon would do cosplay. That's why that was so

[38:53] popular for a really long time was because it was considered art if they Oh, there he is. There's thing I have things for you. you guys. >> Okay.

[39:05] >> Yeah. >> Surprise. [laughter] >> Surprise. [laughter] >> Yeah. No kidding. Definitely a surprise. >> Okay. They're off. They're off doing stuff over there. Uh,

[39:19] >> while they're doing that, why don't I talk through the cat patch hoodie or something? Or what? What should I do? Did we do the gamers DLSS topic yet? >> We did not. Did we do anything yet? >> Uh, just the Xbox one.

[39:33] fire things while they while they chitchat? Um, Steam Deck is getting pretty hard to get right now. Valve has added a note to the Steam Deck page

[39:45] saying that the handheld will be intermittently available in some regions intermittently available in some regions due to memory and storage shortages. I knew that memory shortages were already having a significant impact on pricing

[39:58] and I knew that storage shortages were coming, but I didn't know how hard the storage shortages were going to hit and how suddenly they were going to hit. Uh, we're working on a $1,000 build video. Uh, and Plof Plof did something that

[40:17] Uh, and Plof Plof did something that made me very upset that, you know, I worked with him and tried to resolve and couldn't resolve. couldn't resolve. He used a SATA SSD in a build. I think

[40:30] that's the first time we've recommended a SATA SSD for any reason that in in 5 a SATA SSD for any reason that in in 5 years maybe because there's no reason why it should be cheaper even because the part that costs

[40:45] more is the the NAND [snorts] flash but just I guess because the demand is a little lower and the stock is lagging the increases in price or whatever. Right now, SATA SSDs are anywhere from like 15 to like $35 cheaper than

[41:02] >> absolutely see it making sense. >> And for gaming, it doesn't really matter. >> So, our $1,000 build that's coming soon is going to use a SATA SSD. And to be clear, when I say that, it made me

[41:15] upset. I don't mean like PLO made me upset. I mean, he did the reality of the >> made me upset because we shouldn't be in that position. And yet here we are. Crazy. Yeah. For a boot drive. Yes. Scrappy DP. For a boot drive. And I

[41:31] looked at the config with him and I was like, you nailed everything else. And In a perfect world, would I love to spend another $35 and have an NVME about this before. That's a slippery

[41:46] slope logic that takes your $1,000 computer and makes it $1,200. single component, you're you're not adhering to a budget. >> And when does that stop? >> And real people have budgets, and that's

[41:58] just the way it is. So, we have to act like we have a fixed budget. So, that's what we're going to do. It's still not quite $1,000. It's like $1,12 or something like that. But $1,12 is $1,000. $1,040.

[42:12] >> Yeah. It doesn't feel >> That's $1,050. That's not That's not >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, >> I think if it was over 15, it starts to >> Oh, yeah. >> I think 15 is probably the line.

[42:28] >> I think you get away with it, but it starts to feel weird. >> I think 12 is like an automatic. Yeah. >> When you hit to when you hit 20, it's >> Yeah. It starts to get rough >> cuz that's like that's like a real bill,

[42:43] you know? Like a $20 bill is like, no, no, I'm not going to put that in my pocket. That one goes in my wallet. You know what I mean? Like $5 bill, like might even put that in with the change drawer, you know? $10 bill. We're

[42:58] getting sketchy. $20 right in the wallet. No question. No question. Um, wallet. No question. No question. Um, yeah, 20 bucks is lunch for sure.

[43:11] wallet. >> I mean, yeah, sure. Maybe in the '9s. Five does nothing for the car now. >> No, I think they mean like >> Oh, I thought like to fill your gas tank. I was like, [laughter]

[43:27] two, I think they mean like in the in the like, you know, >> I get it. In the change pouch. Yeah. No, I thought like I remember when money was tight, my dad putting five bucks in the gas tank and I was like,

[43:40] >> dude, that was in like 1993. Like, [laughter] not so much anymore. Yeah, sure. on a motorcycle, Chewy. But that's not what we're talking about. Um, our discussion question for this is, do you think the Steam Machine andor the

[43:55] year? >> I heard the Steam Machine was >> uh, no, no, it was so it was supposed to be early in the first half of the year, anything other than first half of the year. And yeah, I I do think that's

[44:11] possible. if they can't even get enough stock to make Steam Deck right now, like how are they supposed to launch a new product? Because you're kind of damned don't. If you delay it, people are going to be upset because you delayed it. But

[44:24] if you launch it and there's no stock and it's a whole scalping situation $9.99 that >> and they're going for $2500 on eBay will because to someone for whom money is no object there is nothing exactly

[44:42] like the steam machine. Tell me something that completely fulfills the function of the steam machine. Go. I'll wait. Not that I'm aware of. You could you could do it. You could make it yourself.

[44:55] >> Sure. You're going to go get you're going to go get an IR receiver and you're going to go get like some relay system that's going to turn on your TV same time. >> You're going to go you're going to make

[45:07] your own uh Steam controller with the touchpads with um >> What's uh what was Buddy's name we did that collab with recently? >> He I mean he made his own Steam controller alike with touchpads. He made

[45:19] his own touchpads. Is the controller tied to the Yeah, I guess the launch of >> Are you going to are you going to work out a way to remotely power on and power off uh all all of the stuff from the controller? Like there's a bunch of work

[45:33] that Valve did on the integration side of things that is completely separate of things that is completely separate from just how many FPS does it get? And sure, you could you could just roll Xbox or a PlayStation instead, but then you

[45:46] don't have Steam. You don't have, no offense, Microsoft and Sony, but you don't have good pricing on games. So, to me, no, there is absolutely nothing that is what the Steam machine is. It's it's completely unique in the market. And I

[46:02] not going to be playing the most demanding games that just plaining want and are just like whatever, it doesn't matter. Or I shouldn't even say more money than cents. They might just have more money than they care about. and

[46:17] they're just like, "Forget it. I don't care. I will just buy it." I mean, I've bought stuff that's a bad value before. The work that I'm doing on my motorbike bought a brand new motorbike and instead I'm going to be riding around on a 2003

[46:30] I'm going to be riding around on a 2003 with a paint job. That's insane. >> Yeah, kind of. >> But I love the look of it. I have a lot bike. It's still enough for me. It's 650cc. It's really comfortable. And I

[46:45] did the paint job myself, which I think is super cool. So, I'll be like ripping around on my own paint job. Tommy B. It was Tommy B who did that Steam Control. So, [sighs]

[47:02] >> Yeah, let's hit it. >> Let's do it. Let's do it. You guys might not like to hear this, okay? But I need you for one moment to just just here. Just

[47:16] just grab that and just what a chill pill. what a chill pill. >> Just take it and calm down. Go ahead. Uh, gamers overwhelm See, I don't even We'll get into it. We'll get into it,

[47:30] but listen to the title. Gamers overwhelmingly prefer DLSS over FSR. In a three-way blind test over six games, German tech publication Computer Bases readers overwhelmingly found DLSS 4.5 Upscaling to have the best picture

[47:46] quality over FSR or native rendering. >> And that last one, that's the bombshell. >> The native rendering is the uh the games used for this test was NO17, Arc Raiders, Cyberpunk 2077, Horizon Forbidden West, Satisfactory, and The

[48:02] Last of Us Part Two. Now, that is also another huge bombshell. These are not just like Ashes of the Benchmark or like or even Cyberpunk, like games that are or even Cyberpunk, like games that are just overwhelmingly optimized for

[48:15] because they're the traditional showcase games. And these are showcasy games, beautiful games pretty much across the board, other than maybe Satisfactory. Um, but these are real games that people are

[48:30] playing. This is not like contrived. >> Yeah. And all those real games ran at 4K resolution with upscaling set to quality. Videos were played to were played to readers in Nvidia's Icat player showing game clips rendered in

[48:44] player showing game clips rendered in DLSS 4.5 uh FSR and natively side by side. This is the it's a video. it's a video. >> It is. But if anything to me that is a

[48:57] disadvantage to DLSS. It could be >> because DLSS when you're actually using it, remember we're talking DLSS it, remember we're talking DLSS upscaling, not DLSS frame gen, right? So

[49:11] there's no latency drawback of DLSS upscaling. If anything, the latency will be better because you will be running at more FPS because you're rendering at a than upscaling it through machine learning.

[49:30] Uh respondents could indicate whether they preferred or answer equivalent. So they could be like, "Yeah, they're all the same." Uh DLSS won in every game with an overall result of 48% of votes from a pool of 6747.

[49:50] FSR in every game with 24% of the overall vote to FSR's 15. that doesn't uh >> so 15% of people preferred FSR or 15% of

[50:02] >> so 15% of people preferred FSR or 15% of votes were for FSR, 24% of votes were votes were for FSR, 24% of votes were for native and 48% >> Oh, there it is. 12.8% of the responses were equivalent between the three

[50:14] >> So, just don't care. One out of eight gamers was like, eh, whatever. >> Whatever, dude. Responses weren't ranked. Respondents only voted on what they thought was the best video. Now, if these were closer, okay, if it was like,

[50:30] you know, 20 >> Yeah, the 48 to 24% gap, >> Yeah, the 48 to 24% gap, >> 25 and 25. Like, I'm looking at it going bunch of normies who literally can't tell the difference and then a bunch of

[50:43] other normies who literally can't tell that FSR doesn't look as good as native, right? I I' I'd be I'd be ready to be pretty dismissive of it, but the sheer pretty dismissive of it, but the sheer volume of voting and the overwhelming

[50:57] preference for DLSS is kind of minding right now. Like seriously, there is a lot of variables at hold. It was a video that was played,

[51:12] all that kind of stuff. But >> are you surprised by the results? No. Yeah, that's the that's the spicy part of this I was waiting for. Uh is is we we can nitpick how the like, you know, how the how the thing was done. We

[51:27] can nitpick the science. Um and I'm sure there's lots to be done there as there is with everything. Um but I'm not particularly surprised by >> Have you tried it yet? Is your gaming machine up and running?

[51:42] >> You're on 4000 series, right? Yes. Yeah. So you can run it. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. You should try it like immediately. >> Are you afraid to like it?

[51:57] >> Are you afraid to like it? >> M >> but not not because of like external perceptions. >> Like it's kind of like the the first time that you you know try it with No.

[52:12] [laughter] >> How? No, I don't I don't think at all. >> My my thing is that I'm worried about >> Oh, I guess you knew you'd like that. >> Yeah. [laughter] Uh my my thing that I'm worried about is

[52:26] what this will do to multiple industries. >> Oh, which industries? What? Hit me. Hit me. I'm ready. Gaming and hardware. >> I mean, the hardware, it's already happened.

[52:38] happened. Like Nvidia set this course years ago, not just when they launched the 20 series. They set this course when they >> Yeah. >> So this was like 8 years ago or like 9

[52:53] years ago or something in video. >> That's really fast for this level of >> Yeah. >> Eight or nine years for this level of impact is wild. Like it's actually very wild. you look

[53:06] at look at almost any other comparative industry. However, it's also like damn industry. However, it's also like damn near clairvoyant when it comes to seeing where the where the winds are blowing within the tech industry and getting it

[53:21] within the tech industry and getting it this right when when it was in such early stages of development at that time when the hardware didn't exist, when the software tools didn't exist, when it hadn't been embraced by game developers.

[53:35] You got to give them credit. They nailed it and now everyone else is frames, whether you don't like fake frames, AMD and Intel are all in on

[53:48] upscaling and frame gen. Now, >> the the warden is kind of getting to my point. How are you fellas going to pivot when consumer computing is completely >> Um, this is kind of what I'm talking

[54:02] about is like the and it's not even just the work, right? we can actually do a >> oh yeah, >> where's a lot of the revenue coming from these days? >> That stuff. Uh, so like, you know,

[54:16] it, but I'm worried about the hobby I've had for literally my entire the the memories that I have of my entire life is being interested in this hobby. From before I was interested in this hobby, I don't remember anything. Like

[54:31] there's there's like it's been forever. And then there's what this will continue to do to the gaming industry. Um, gaming help. >> So, um,

[54:44] >> hear me out. We've had this conversation before, but it always felt kind of like, before, but it always felt kind of like, eh, sci-fi and maybe someday and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And it always seemed kind of easy to dismiss,

[54:58] again. M >> if someone say Microsoft built a gaming >> if someone say Microsoft built a gaming experience that simply wasn't possible

[55:10] with many clients all over the world connecting to a central server to exchange game data. if they built a gaming experience that could only run on

[55:22] the big iron and that you remote into and it beams frames to you like a like I know we've had massively multiplayer worlds, right? But I'm talking like a

[55:34] just it's just not even possible to run it on the client side anymore. Could you be convinced in this in this hypothetical you know universe scale game uh where you know everything is physics based and everything's

[55:50] >> man what happened to physics in video games anyways that's a different topic but keep going but but let's say let's say that by that by having like enormous banks of AI servers and crap they could they could model and simulate the world

[56:06] in a way that just wasn't possible to render locally. Yeah. I mean, the more anti-cheing that comes with that. >> Yeah. >> Could you be convinced to cloud game to

[56:18] play that? Like, let's say it was it was a game that had a moment like Arc Raiders is having right now. Would you just be like, "Let's go." Would you be sad? >> Like, tell me. Walk me through.

[56:32] >> So far, I've resisted. I haven't joined any of the subscription things. I subscription. Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Cuz you're running on their hardware at >> Y >> um so I Yeah. I haven't joined Xbox Game

[56:45] Pass or or the Ubisoft service or EA's thing or or anything like that. Uh even even when it like probably made sense when I'd be like, "Okay, there's some >> Uh maybe it doesn't even have a single player or I don't really care about the

[56:59] know, I know my friends are only going to play for like two weeks, so like >> whatever. really every single time if I'm going to play that game, I've bought it. I have not joined the subscription services. I don't know at a certain

[57:13] point when there is no longer an option, which is the reality you're describing. >> Um I don't know necessarily what I do there. Um I think there's definitely a is very interesting. Would you still be able to cheat?

[57:27] >> Absolutely. But the level of cheating would decrease and at least at the beginning the barrier of entry would increase. Um increase. Um >> like using using machine vision to read

[57:40] a screen and literally a robot arm to move a mouse and operate a keyboard. >> Oh, you can still digitally send inputs. There's nothing. I I just mean that that's sort of the that's sort of the the ridiculous

[57:52] >> and people have >> and people have gone to make something software. >> But you could say Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz you could still read a screen and then snap to a head, but then like you

[58:05] said, still detectable by things, etc. >> Yeah. So, so like you will never be able to completely eliminate people who are determined not to play the video games it's not like one per freaking lobby like some games are right now.

[58:19] >> Um, so like that's that is kind of exciting, but I

[58:32] computer. There's like I I spent the long I I It's kind of funny. During the Rena, I spent the longest period of time in my life since I touched a desktop without touching a desktop because at work I had

[58:46] >> Yeah. >> And I would take that laptop home to I But also like if I play games or whatever, anything I did on a computer >> Yeah. >> And then I got my desktop back and it

[58:59] like shouldn't matter when you're connected to a dock. They're just not that fast. >> I don't know like what it is. work. I don't have a work desktop right now and I haven't for like 6 months and

[59:14] >> there's just something about it >> being a big box on a desk and I don't >> No, they're just they're just I don't know. They just better. >> Ivonne always uh would talk to me about

[59:27] her imagination because it doesn't make any sense, but she'd be like, "Yeah, no laptops wear out. they just like don't work as good after a while. I'm like >> anecdotally >> it's like it just kind of seems to it

[59:41] it's the way that these mobile chips have a tendency to to be very bursty in their performance or whatever it is like they just ah man I don't get it. I don't get it. Um right now it's an Elite Book X.

[1:00:00] stricks halo. So, it's uh it's like a $4,000 laptop that I would never buy that are like like broken level of stupid. Like it has by default the the

[1:00:12] screen ships at 40 Hz. >> Yeah, I know, right? You can turn it up >> What is it? An engineering laptop or something or like what? >> Why would No. Why would it have a stricks halo and a 40 Hz screen? Is it

[1:00:26] >> It's a It's a work. considered like a workstation cuz it can be configured with up to 128 gigs of RAM like Stricks Halo, you know, tends to do. >> I was trying to figure out like what what what configuration ever would

[1:00:38] Hz. And then I was like, okay, maybe it's just for CAD or something and maybe >> Like >> I feel like if I was an engineer, I'd be at 40. >> It can do 60. It can do 60.

[1:00:51] >> But it's like super dim. Like it's not >> like you compare this to like a like a like >> not good not good >> but man that stricts Halo

[1:01:04] >> but yeah I I feel like I'm always going to have a desktop and if I'm the dude running a desktop off I can only keep it alive through secondhand hardware cuz literally no one makes this stuff anymore. I feel like

[1:01:17] I'm going to be that guy. And does that mean I'm just aging poorly or whatever? mean I'm just aging poorly or whatever? Maybe maybe when I'm 70 and I'm still keeping my desktop alive, I will be seen as aging poorly,

[1:01:30] >> but I don't think I care. >> I like my spot. I like having a desktop. I like how it works.

[1:01:43] Windows 98 machine now, I think that's still fine because I pretty cool. >> Yeah, I don't think it's going to go away. go away because you're not going to be the only millennial left in, you

[1:01:55] know, 30 years from now. So, >> I won't be 70 30 years from now. >> Well, I will. [laughter] >> Right there, buddy. Um,

[1:02:07] >> I'm just saying like and and I'm I'm I'm giving a theoretical scenario, right? And there's whether it happens or not. And I and I think that especially with how diverse the game development industry is even now and I think we'll

[1:02:20] talked about a fair bit. This this splintering off that's happening right now from the big studios. You're going to have a lot of people who in much the same way that game developers are spreading up who are nostalgic for the

[1:02:34] spreading up who are nostalgic for the rich singleplayer like pixel art um RPG it is, right? and are are trying to make that but better and more modern. I think you're going to have people making games that are designed to be played from the

[1:02:47] >> There's always the indie space. >> Yeah. But and and and by and always, yeah, sure, always is a huge word. Very loaded. Maybe it won't always, but in our lifetimes, I don't see the desktop completely going away. It might take on

[1:03:02] a different form. The the kind that we use now might not make sense anymore. We're already seeing soldered memory make its way to the desktop, not because it's being crammed down our throats, but because it runs faster. Like the fact

[1:03:17] that framework went that route was pretty mind-blowing to me. And the first thing I told them was like, hey, like this is not that modular. And like this is not that modular. And they're like, look, AMD literally like

[1:03:32] worked with us on this. You cannot build stricks halo with with memory modules and maintain the performance. And it's not that it needs it for the CPU, it needs it for the GPU. And the and and the GPUs becoming integrated the way

[1:03:47] >> in a really weird way >> that happened. We went from that conversation, right, where Intel started talking about, you know, the iGPU on the CPU becoming like very powerful and an important part and AMD with their Fusion

[1:04:01] way back in the day and the CPU and the GPU becoming integrated and we all went, "Yeah, but IGPUs are so crap. They're so bad." I feel like it just kind of everyone was talking about it and it like definitely wasn't going to happen.

[1:04:15] quiet and then it just >> happened. >> Happened. >> Here's a really [sighs] how fine is the soldering on soldered RAM. >> It's not that bad. Yeah. BGA BGA RAM can

[1:04:29] be upgraded. A lot of the time the issue around both that and NAND comes down to firmware. M >> uh but no one is going to build a motherboard that is designed to have the RAM desoldered and resoldered onto it

[1:04:45] willy-nilly. And so because of that, you're never going to get friendly firmware even from companies that do have the best intentions. And you can make there are boards that allow BGA chips to just be like like like bolted

[1:04:59] It's not practical. The interface is way too expensive and bulky. Just trying to think like is it possible that's the return of like repair shops basically is >> It might it might not even be upgrading but it might be replacing fixing stuff

[1:05:15] like that be kind of neat. >> 100%. Um, right. The other thing I was going to say is I think Stricks Halo is just the beginning, too, >> because one of the things that was most exciting to me about Panther Lake was

[1:05:30] not and and this is why I think our Panther Lake coverage back at CES was so different from everyone else's because I was moderately excited to see Intel return to competition in terms of battery life. Um, put out a really good

[1:05:45] moderately excited for the iGPU. Uh moderately excited for the performance gains and they moved some caches around and all that kind of stuff that they tend to do as they make a new chip. But what I was really excited about was the

[1:05:59] modularity of the underlying platform. Like they've got all of this stuff that they were talking about for stuff that they were talking about for years. Like Fovaros is like working.

[1:06:12] years. Like Fovaros is like working. It's in shipping silicon right now. We can just like take out and they talked about using third party vendor IP. So, the idea

[1:06:26] third party vendor IP. So, the idea like, holy crap, of getting something like the SoC on the Nintendo Switch, right, with like an Nvidia GPU, but like right, with like an Nvidia GPU, but like an x86 CPU and then like some custom,

[1:06:39] you know, AI tom foolery over here and whatever they want over there and having like a like a mega chip on something like a framework desktop, like a really that's exciting. >> Mhm.

[1:06:53] >> That's cool. And if they're able to do that, not on a monolithic die, right, but through packaging, then the yields might actually not suck. And the performance benefit of having it all tightly integrated might be worth the

[1:07:09] cost. >> Maybe. Here's [laughter] a here's an interesting comment from uh >> Fart Muncher 69420 >> Fart Muncher 69420 uh [laughter] in floodplane chat.

[1:07:23] Fartmuncher69_420 says, "I think enthusiasts will change to running servers inside their house instead of desktops." interesting comment because >> we've talked about that before.

[1:07:36] >> we've talked about that before. >> First of all, we have. Second of all, in my opinion, if you look at like tech media, what is the only thing that like >> Building like local AI crap. >> Homebrew.

[1:07:50] >> Yeah. I don't know why I said homebrew, but yeah, home lab like and and doing of the reason why I think it's growing. But also, people are looking at like, oh man, like I I been mulling over this this this particular thought in my head

[1:08:05] for a while now. It's it's this like, you know, I'm not trying to be I'm not to gray man. Yeah. Where you like blend in with the crowd and like you're you're you're you can't like

[1:08:18] >> you're you're all tactical but people can't tell. I'm not trying to do that. I'm not trying to like hide from the the government, whatever. But there's also like, you know, I don't take a picture of my

[1:08:31] junk every time I go to the washroom and send it to you. So, why should I share >> Right. Right. >> So, like there there's people that are like, "All right, there's a certain level of invasion of my privacy that is

[1:08:43] little bit." Right. >> So, I think people are trying to split off from certain major services, not out of >> paranoia. >> Oh my god, I need to be ultra tactical,

[1:08:55] but it's just like, wo, like this is actually too much. I should probably own these two things are happening at the same time. >> We did an AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade. Uh, I guess we shot it a couple of weeks ago

[1:09:07] for Nate, one of our guys at Creator Warehouse. Did I talk about this last >> I don't think so. >> Okay. So, so we shot an AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade and one of the things that he wanted was a NAS, which is like,

[1:09:21] comes up on these AMD Ultimate Tech upgrades. But the difference is that Nate doesn't really do any video editing, editing, >> doesn't really uh want a Plex server. He

[1:09:35] doesn't do the stuff that we typically think of people wanting NAS for. And this was really cool. and very exciting investment disclosure in Asht. But they

[1:09:49] have gotten to the point where what he was after was quite literally a matter of like maybe 10 clicks to get image set up on

[1:10:02] his remember hexos is based on trunaz. So the underlying the underlying system So the underlying the underlying system is Trunaz ZFS. Good stuff. And he was able to get it set up with their pretty dashboard, get image installed and

[1:10:17] syncing from his phone in like I kid you not about 10 minutes. >> Nice. >> With no trial and error and no BS. And that was what he wanted it for. He had a kid recently and he just doesn't want to

[1:10:33] upload to a cloud service. >> Yeah. because there's just there's a freaking limit. >> Yeah. Like it's it's really not um it's not edgy like like you hear these story it's oh

[1:10:48] man this is going to make conspiracy theorists like so wet in the panties. >> Yeah I guess. Yeah. But it's it's not

[1:11:00] >> why why are they feeling like that? >> It's not fear of the unknown. It's knowledge. >> Did they see someone who's proconsumer? brother. >> It's not It's not fear of the unknown.

[1:11:15] >> widely, >> right? Like you you this is an old story, but you hear about the Tesla stuff where they were like sharing videos from inside of people's cars for fun on their Slack. Like this is

[1:11:29] happening. We have accepted that even if a company is like morally perfect, well, they're gonna get hacked anyways. Like it's if your data is is is just

[1:11:43] get it. >> People you don't want to have it will okay, >> realistically, most people probably not >> realistically, most people probably not that important. Yeah, but

[1:11:57] >> but it kind of doesn't >> I still don't want someone seeing it. >> Yeah, maybe that's actually an irrelevant part of this conversation. >> And maybe we could just not that >> cuz I know that gets brought up too. And

[1:12:09] it's just like, dude, whatever. That doesn't mean I want Yeah, I don't know. Just owning your own stuff, I think, is shifting from paranoid people and

[1:12:22] >> to normies, >> too. This is actually just kind of normal now. Dude, I I think that as cool as it was investing in Framework and as many good business decisions as I've made for LMG and mistakes, um

[1:12:40] made for LMG and mistakes, um the investment in Asht and the timing for Hexos is going to end up seeming like clairvoyant when they get their product out of pre-release.

[1:12:54] And like dude, the timing like I think they're aiming for >> Sorry, I'm going to jump in while you find that. Uh, dark guy said AI being this is part of my problem, though, is like you hear stuff like that and it's

[1:13:08] like, okay, maybe I think he's probably joking, but I've I've heard more recently that apparently one of the ways that they prey on women is they look for that they prey on women is they look for when you delete a bunch of selfies

[1:13:21] self-esteem moment and then they'll target you with ads for like makeup and >> Seriously. Seriously, >> that is so >> like maybe I'm just going to host my own photos and you can actually off.

[1:13:38] with this at all. So, there's a certain level where it's like uh yeah, you're doing stuff with this information that is just not okay. And like like that's, you know, self-esteem issues in in men and women are are a

[1:13:53] problem. But I think it's pretty well known that like negative emotions and negative thoughts and self-esteem issues like that are much more heavily present on wi with with women and it's just like

[1:14:06] I don't know get out of here. So if I can help solve that by like hosting it myself. Yeah. Okay. Maybe I'm going to do that now cuz I'm tired of this stuff tired of this too. I think Instagram was doing that too. Yeah. I don't I don't

[1:14:19] necessarily know. >> So here it is. Q1 of 2026, by March >> So here it is. Q1 of 2026, by March 31st, 2026, we will have 1.0 of Hexos, uh, which will include the local UI that people were rightly upset wasn't

[1:14:36] initially planned, uh, for for the for the launch, um, Q1 of this year. And if you don't want to go that route, there's tons of other routes as well.

[1:14:48] >> Yes. Lots of other options. What I love about this one is the philosophy of about this one is the philosophy of making difficult and secure and robust >> But if you decide you're going down this route regardless, you can go that route

[1:15:02] route regardless, you can go that route >> and skip the steps or there's a massive >> Yes. >> Um, level one forums is really good for >> Uh, there's stuff on I mean there's stuff on the line executives forum, lots

[1:15:16] There's tons of YouTube creators. There's tons of people all over the place that would be more than happy to help you solve these things. Um, the are posting about that as well. Like this is Yeah, this is just another

[1:15:30] example of like this to me is very clearly clearly uh within the law mass data harvesting. And it's it's just everywhere now. And it's just too much.

[1:15:45] Just tired of it. I think uh that. >> I think I think having your own NAS is going to go from a thing that weird pirates do to a thing that just is like

[1:15:59] a normal thing that people should do if they care about their privacy at all. I wouldn't be surprised, maybe maybe I'm being too in our own bubble about this, certain amount of time it's like weird

[1:16:14] if you don't have some form of your own owned large storage. owned large storage. >> I mean, it's going to get hard with what was it? What was was it WD who said all of their

[1:16:28] >> Hard drive. Yeah. >> You know what? Let's jump right into this topic then. Hard drive capacity for Western Digital is sold out for 2026. WD CEO revealed during a company earnings call that they're pretty much

[1:16:43] sold out of HDD production capacity for all of this calendar year with firm purchase orders from their top seven customers. WD has also signed long-term agreements LTA's with two customers that extend into 2027 and one into 2028.

[1:17:01] This demand is driven driven almost entirely by AI data centers. Cloud entirely by AI data centers. Cloud revenue now accounts for 89% of WD's total revenue while consumer revenue has shrunk to just 5%.

[1:17:23] around that. And obviously it doesn't quite work like this, but at the Western Digital Factory, okay, as the drives are rolling along the conveyor and dropping into the bucket at the end of the conveyor, those

[1:17:38] drives, they're all done now. One out of 20 is destined for a One out of 20 is destined for a consumer.

[1:17:56] drive you see in a consumer system shipping today, shipping today, 19 more are going elsewhere with 18 of them headed to the data center

[1:18:11] to the cloud. Hard drive prices have already surged nearly 50% in the last 5 months according to Tom's hardware following a according to Tom's hardware following a similar pattern to RAM and NAND which

[1:18:24] are also in shortage because of the current AI buildout. unintentionally. I was trying to help someone configure a build and the performance like was not very important. So I I actually

[1:18:39] recommended the the the the core most important thing was hard drive. So I checked the used market because of course and I was like oh everything's really high. I feel like these are just like people expecting too

[1:18:55] >> I know what I got >> is not Yeah. The used market around here is not always super vibrant for everything. So, it's like, okay, let's let's jump on stores cuz I've seen literally during Scrapyard Wars.

[1:19:08] >> Where it's actually cheaper to just buy a new drive sometimes, which is whack, >> Um, so like, okay, let's just jump on the stores. Then I was like, what is expensive? And then I started diving into things and I was like, oh no, it's

[1:19:22] greens, [sighs] two terabytes each from um just to give you some idea of how old they are. They have archived footage from when we were at the Langley house on them. They were the old cold storage drives.

[1:19:38] >> So each of them only has I think around a few dozen power on and off cycles and a few dozen power on and off cycles and like a couple hundred power on hours. like a couple hundred power on hours. I bet those are worth close today

[1:19:53] to what they were worth then, >> which is so messed up. >> Completely whackadoodle. [laughter] >> Dan, chime up. Say it. >> Yeah, sure. I didn't want to interrupt.

[1:20:07] >> No, but yeah, my uh my NAS is they're nearing their 5year kind of scary age. Oh, >> and I have five 15 terabytes in there. O, I'm gonna be poor. >> How much is that going to run you right

[1:20:22] >> Oh my god, Luke, >> please check. I'm working on it. >> I have a >> A WD Green is worth 80 bucks for a two TB. >> That's nuts. Okay, so no, they're not as

[1:20:35] bad as they would have been like 12 years ago or whatever, but that's too drive. >> You said 15 terabytes, Dan. >> Seagate Barracuda is what I have in there right now. or Exos, something like

[1:20:47] >> Exoses were like kind of cheap for a bit. >> Okay. Okay. In fairness, 4 TB drives are around the same price. Here's one from Seagate for 90 bucks. >> No, he needs 15s.

[1:21:01] >> Is this a phase where you would expect to upgrade? Are you looking for 20s? if there's 20s. I didn't do the math recently because power on hours weren't recently because power on hours weren't getting too crazy, but like I got to

[1:21:15] think about it. I was looking at SSDs and reorggaging my left kidney. >> Yeah, that's uh >> so yeah, 18s for like a Red Pro Naz drive is $400. >> That's probably cheaper than it used to

[1:21:31] be. I'm seeing I'm seeing four to4 to $700 depending on the models. >> Yeah, that sounds about the same. >> The sweet spot seems to be a little higher than 15 right now. The 2020 the

[1:21:45] >> Um >> Okay. So, I'm fine then. Sick. >> Oh, really? You're good. >> You're buying 15. How many five of >> That's still two grand. And this is US dollars, sir.

[1:21:59] >> Okay. That's cuz I remember paying about 400 bucks a drive 5 years ago. >> I'm seeing on the Canadian site, I'm seeing Iron Wolf Pro 20 TB for 600 bucks. >> Okay, that's not that far off. He's

[1:22:14] getting 30% more capacity for about 30% more. It's not better. It's not like it >> It's not like it used to be. >> The price was always the same >> where the price would always go down per gigabyte. But we talked about this. It

[1:22:28] keeps coming back to that bloody video I made where I was like YouTube premium what what did I what was the premise of that title? >> But basically I was like hey look you got to understand Mo's law is dead.

[1:22:41] >> The law of storage being cheaper is dead. This platform costs more and more and more and more to maintain the more people use it. Something's got to give.

[1:22:55] be. just a little bit. >> John McGee 1996 asks, "Is this going to get worse or is there any indication of balancing out type of situation?" Hold balancing out type of situation?" Hold on, just give me one second.

[1:23:15] Just going to polish my ball here. Going to gaze into it. Consult the orb. Going to gaze into it. Consult the orb. Going to We're going full gaze here.

[1:23:30] I don't know. [laughter] [snorts] give some whole impassion speech about trying to tell the future and stuff and good. >> Like and the thing is I like obviously

[1:23:46] like I was kicking myself for not just stockpiling a bunch of DRAM, right? But I've been in this industry for so long. Do you know how many times I've heard the DAM's going up? it's going up in like what for for a month or two it'll

[1:24:00] trend up for a little bit maybe for a quarter or two but it always it always comes back down because at the end of the day you know it's people who you know they earn their money working on all the forecasting for all this crap

[1:24:15] all the forecasting for all this crap years in advance that mostly have done a predicting where demand and supply is going to go and making sure that they're striking a balance between maintaining the profitability of their fabs and also

[1:24:29] uh not over supplying or not under supplying the market making sure that they can supply all their their big customers including direct to consumers and I don't think there is a precedent for them it up this badly.

[1:24:44] Nobody saw this boom coming and there is no quick fix. There's no like, oh well, no quick fix. There's no like, oh well, let's just uh, you know, I'm trying to think of a game where you were built. Yeah, ano. There's no ano just plopping

[1:24:56] down a new fab and then you just run a little road to it and now the supply chain is fixed. It just doesn't work like that. So, I don't I don't know cuz the the bubble could pop and if the bubble pops

[1:25:11] all these purchase orders just be sitting there. They, as far as I what are you gonna do?" Like, what's that um what's that famous saying? If

[1:25:24] problem. >> If if you if you owe the bank if you if $20,000, that's a you problem. If you have a loan from the bank for 20 billion, that's the bank's problem. >> Yeah. And not the exact quote, but

[1:25:39] >> It's something along those lines. And in the same way, like I if if this whole thing just crashes, there's literally going to be no one to, you know, fulfill this $1 trillion RAM order or, you know, whatever whatever magic on on paper

[1:25:56] money has been exchanged in advance or whatever commitments have been made. So, if anything, there will be a huge crash in the pricing of this stuff and it'll in the pricing of this stuff and it'll be it'll be a free RAM for all. Um, but

[1:26:10] be it'll be a free RAM for all. Um, but when that will happen, from my point of view, and I'm just I'm not a finance guy, right? Like I'm I'm not a finance guy, right? Like I'm I'm I'm a tech nuts andbolts guy. From my

[1:26:25] point of view, we should have all figured out that this is not going to result in the kind of uh the kind of revenue generation that would justify the investment that's going into it ages ago. We should already be there.

[1:26:40] ages ago. We should already be there. So, I'm just sitting here going, well, can I stay solvent longer than the market can stay irrational?

[1:26:55] chat's cooking. >> Oh, >> Mhm. >> I [clears throat] think I actually >> four. I think I might actually just need four, which is kind of nice.

[1:27:07] >> Oh, get shucked. Um, >> seems like a great idea. >> seems like a great idea. >> Mega Cool asks, "Hey, question. Are hardware shortage at all, or is it really just because of stupid AI?"

[1:27:19] really just because of stupid AI?" >> Just AI. Um, tariffs aren't helping. globally. >> Yes. >> No, >> I can tell you that much.

[1:27:33] >> But the shortage is a is a much more macro problem that is not to do with >> a tantrum that a particular world leader is having at a particular moment. >> Absolutely. >> In like so many ways.

[1:27:49] >> Constantly. and every day. This hobby has never been more difficult to get >> Uh, no, I actually wouldn't say that. >> It's never been more frustrating to participate in. I'll say that.

[1:28:03] >> Yeah, it was definitely a lot more difficult to get into in the like much >> Yeah. >> Like where would you find resources to >> I mean, there was laptops that were $3,000 in like the early '90s.

[1:28:16] hobbyest days. >> And I mean, >> Even from a pricing standpoint, >> sucks right now. you we've got that $1,000 gaming PC video coming. You can still buy a sick

[1:28:29] gaming PC for $1,000. We went to uh David and I this video is coming out went to Costco and we brought a we bought a great computer for like 1250 US or something like that. A very capable little gaming machine.

[1:28:43] little gaming machine. AM5 like like modern platform gaming machine with uh what was it 9600 I think it was the I think it was the XT >> perfectly chromulent gaming card. I

[1:28:56] played some Expedition 33 on it and I was like yep this is a gaming PC and and that's really great. It's really amazing that you can you can get into it like that. But it's also really frustrating um that we had it so good for so long

[1:29:11] and it's been it feels like it's been torn out of our fingers and the reason the reason is the hard part. Like if if Moore's law was just dead and everyone was doing their earnest

[1:29:26] best to overcome it and the answer was fake frames, I think everyone would go, "Okay, sure." >> not everyone, but I Yeah, >> not everyone. But you I think you get

[1:29:41] >> But if the reason that this stuff is not affordable and the reason that we're going the direction that we're going is because you know, I don't know, you Sam Alman needs more RAM, then I think that's a

[1:29:54] lot harder to swallow. It's a lot harder to be passionate about, to get excited about. I also think that I mean if you know if if companies like WD are having 5% of their revenue be consumer um and you see

[1:30:09] more patterns like what Micron did happening where these

[1:30:21] known in the western market brands that's how I'll say it um start kind of exiting I'm not saying western digital is exiting but Micron for reasons that Western Digital is experiencing. So, it wouldn't be unreasonable to see other

[1:30:35] wouldn't be unreasonable to see other brands do a similar thing. Um, I think maybe in a really weird way, one of the saviors of the desktop PC market might China. >> Oh,

[1:30:50] >> because there is a consumer market. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. So, like if certain brands are just going, "Well, all the money's in data center." Well, that's not true. It's just there's a crazy amount of money in data center.

[1:31:06] So, like, uh, I don't know, somebody's going to step in and there's a lot of very hungry Chinese companies trying to get into computer components. So, like >> um I think it was a hardware unbox that

[1:31:20] >> um I think it was a hardware unbox that made a video on um one of the Chinese DRM companies um um hardware unboxed

[1:31:35] CM or CX rather. Hold on. CXMT XMT YMTC. I think one of them did a Yeah. uh 32 gig King Bank KFRW DDR56000 CL36

[1:31:53] uh 32 gig King Bank KFRW DDR56000 CL36 soreblade CXMT review hardware unboxed. soreblade CXMT review hardware unboxed. Uh and it was like fine. I guess that could help, but I I don't think they have a ton of capacity. At least

[1:32:08] >> Not right now. >> I'm not talking about right now. But that's the thing about China is how how how long did it take them to build hospitals during co >> like days or something? [laughter] Um

[1:32:22] >> like days or something? [laughter] Um China builds hospital in 10 days. That China builds hospital in 10 days. That was nuts. That is nuts. That is nuts. And this is a different type of scaling and a different type of

[1:32:35] like >> if there's opportunity there, somebody's traditional brands are going data center, I that doesn't mean consumers we're still here. There's still a big market. We're still hungry. We're

[1:32:49] >> There's still billions of dollars to be made selling to consumers. >> And I think consumers are probably less loyal than data center is. If data center uses something and it works.

[1:33:03] >> That's where you have all those quotes of like nobody was fired for buying IBM. >> Yeah, dude. AMD has been Well, okay. It's not as cut and dried as AMD has been better than Intel in in server for years, but they've been a very

[1:33:17] compelling option compared to Intel for for years and years now. And how slowly that market share shifts compared to consumers who just seem to be able to are willing to pivot a lot faster. It's not it's less relationship and contract

[1:33:31] forecasting driven. It's more like I go and I see what's what's good right now. It's like recommended by my enthusiast buddy. I want more FPS, you know, like process. >> Uh, SuperWisk says, "How long until

[1:33:46] Nvidia just gives up on GeForce?" >> I don't think they will. And my reason >> I don't think they will. And my reason for that is largely geopolitical. >> I think they are much more geopolitical than

[1:34:00] than >> a lot of the other brands. I think I think in my opinion Nvidia is extremely invested in Taiwan's market dominance invested in Taiwan's market dominance and wants to hold themselves there.

[1:34:15] >> But why do they need gaming for that? >> Cuz I think they would take anything they can. >> And if they can take data center and gaming and anything else, I think they'll grab it and hold on to it.

[1:34:29] I think they will continue to make gaming GPUs, but for a different reason. I think that for many years, the gaming R&D fueled the data center products, and

[1:34:41] now we're seeing that kind of flip around where the data center R&D on things like machine learning is fueling advancements on the gaming side. Um,

[1:34:54] advancements on the gaming side. Um, but I I I think it's less about geopolitics and I think it's less about Taiwan. And for me, I think it's more about tradition. I think there's at least as long as Nvidia's leadership

[1:35:09] remains as it is. I think there's a lot of ego and a lot of pride. And I don't necessarily even mean those in really negative ways. I think that GeForce dominates gaming is a point of personal pride and part of the origin story of

[1:35:27] Nvidia such that if >> this is definitely part if not the majority of it. >> If anyone were to challenge Nvidia in what has been traditionally for the longest period their stomping ground, I

[1:35:41] think Nvidia sees gam the gaming market as essentially their birthright at this point. and anyone who tries to take it from them. Uh, I think they would I think they would cut open their money bags and bleed it rather than lose their

[1:35:56] frankly, because we've seen them do it. When AMD was competitive, they were willing to do anything. Sometimes it wasn't even just to sell more GeForce. It was to just over anyone who tries to dare sell a graphics card. And and and I

[1:36:12] don't even necessarily again I don't even necessarily mean that in like a negative way. I mean that in a highly competitive way. They've done stuff that I would describe as anti-competitive. But what I'm talking about right now is

[1:36:25] But what I'm talking about right now is the competitive spirit of Nvidia and anti-competitive. But it's not what I'm talking about right now. >> Also feels like

[1:36:39] feels like they have more of that than a lot of companies. Nvidia feels very raw >> Oh yeah. I mean I think Jensen takes it personally when like he loses market >> like actually >> and that kind of passion is important

[1:36:55] >> and that kind of passion is important from a leader. It's probably not a small part of Nvidia's ongoing success. I mean point at a company that has executed so consistently for like 20 plus years. When when was Nvidia founded? It was

[1:37:10] >> People also like notoriously don't quit and like they have this >> internal culture of like uh re-education and internal classes that you can take and stuff because they >> they Yeah, it's all very interesting. I

[1:37:27] Nvidia too much when they do a lot of things I don't like. Um but yeah, winners. >> Yeah,

[1:37:43] winner by um learning about checkout messages or coms. Sorry, it took me a second to coms. Sorry, it took me a second to remember what they're called.

[1:37:56] >> the mark of a great name, >> the way to interact with the WAN show is, of course, not through super chats, not through Twitch bits, but through checkout messages. We believe that when you throw money at your screen, you

[1:38:09] you throw money at your screen, you should get something in return. And in our case, it's highquality merchandise from ltstore.com. And then the product we're launching this week is kind of a funny story. Uh,

[1:38:22] do you want to bring up the page on the site? This is called the Schroingers Cat the fashion team for coming up with the the fashion team for coming up with the name because it's kind of genius. Um,

[1:38:34] name because it's kind of genius. Um, there may or may not be an LTX logo under the cat patch. you can't see it, which means it's in a state of superp position until someone does something to test that theory, which we would

[1:38:47] strongly advise against because it would mean that your cat patch is no longer on your hoodie. If you've been around since the uh LTX days, you will recognize the tie-dye base of this particular hoodie. Uh this is officially the last of those.

[1:39:02] Finally, we're done. And for anyone newer, it's our 100% French terry cotton hoodie. soft, breathable, structured, and now featuring this Schroinger's cat patch on top. You can find it live now at lmg.gg/catpatch

[1:39:22] hoodie. So, the reason for these is that our first batch of LTX23 hoodies had the our first batch of LTX23 hoodies had the LTX logo crooked. It was aligned to And you know what? Seriously, our printer has done so many perfect

[1:39:34] prints for us over the years that I don't even I don't even blame him because it was aligned to something, but then something about the way the garment like >> angled.

[1:39:48] floor. >> And so we had to reprint all of the hoodies for the show like I think it was like three or five days remember the exact timeline, but we had to reprint the hoodies. And then we

[1:40:03] spent years trying to figure out what the heck to do with those hoodies. No, the logo was not sewn on. It was silk screened. So, the cat patch being sewn on is is new. It's an upgrade. Look at this quality cat patch. I think this was

[1:40:17] Lisa's handiwork. Isn't it adorable? Anyway, um it took us until now to figure out what to do with them. So, this is your last

[1:40:29] has a cute little cat patch on it. And Luke showed you guys how to find it on the site. And next, he's going to show you guys how to send a merch message. >> He won't he won't do that. I'm sorry. He will not DO THAT. OH CRAP. HE WILL show

[1:40:44] you how to send a com a checkout message. Bloody hell. Uh, okay. All you message. Bloody hell. Uh, okay. All you got to do is add anything to your cart. Say for example, the off-site laptop bag in a small size. Cool. Neat. View cart.

[1:40:59] And there it is. The checkout message interface that will go to producer Dan interface that will go to producer Dan who will uh put it up on stream or he who will uh put it up on stream or he will respond to it or he will uh curate

[1:41:12] it for me and Luke to respond to. Dan, should we show them a couple checkout >> Yeah, I've got a couple here. Let's have a look. Hey, DLL. Question for Lionus. Do you guys have a product list from oldest to newest would be useful for my

[1:41:28] project? We are launching a new version of the site I believe in Q2. I think that's the current road map. And then once that's done, we're going to be working on a product archive. And once that's done, we're going to be working

[1:41:43] on a way to allow people to kind of vote maybe once a quarter or a couple times a year on the top products they'd like to see us bring back. because I know it's been an ongoing problem with LT store that we're always moving forward,

[1:41:59] that we're always moving forward, never restocking things that are gone. And I think that's something that would be a way for us to kind of meet in the product that we ever made. That's not really realistic, but we can bring back

[1:42:12] some if there's enough demand for them. >> Luke Nukem, >> that's a THE SHIRT. OH, >> you should have gotten one when you had the chance. I I wear mine actually quite

[1:42:27] regularly on weekends. >> So, like uh not every product will be available to vote on then. >> Uh like your super special ones. >> It's not going to get enough votes. >> Yeah, we did.

[1:42:39] >> It we saw the sales numbers. >> We did not sell many of those. Uh >> hey Luke, Lionus, and Dan. Hello from Adelaide Adelaide, Australia. Uh, what do you think of the new Pokemon Fire Red Leaf Green release for Switch and Switch

[1:42:54] Leaf Green release for Switch and Switch 2 news that dropped in the last 24? >> Did they seriously not put a space between two different words? >> Fred. >> So, this is the Colton edition.

[1:43:08] >> And that's that's just a good joke. And Leaf Green. Yeah. >> Uh, I don't know. What are they? Are again? Pokemon Fire Red version. >> Capture wild Pokemon and recapture the

[1:43:21] nostalgic feel of the Game Boy Advance system when the Pokemon Fire Red version and Leaf Green version games return for the first time in over 20 years on the Nintendo Switch. Also playable on Switch 2, just in time for Pokemon Day.

[1:43:34] 2, just in time for Pokemon Day. Uh there's a lot to unpack here in these Nintendo Switch versions of the 2004 remakes of the first Pokemon games, Red and Pokemon Green. [laughter] So this is Sorry, sorry. These are just

[1:43:48] >> halfway to Skyrim right now >> for your toaster. >> These are remakes of remakes. >> It's a $20 GBA game and every language is a unique listing on the eShop. [laughter]

[1:44:04] >> you really do have to catch them all. >> Emulators win again. I guess there's like no way this is not one of the most easily emulatable games ever. easily emulatable games ever. Um,

[1:44:19] >> I never done it, but I have to imagine it's like >> Pokemon Blue Master Race. That's all I have to say about that. Never cared about red or green. Sorry, >> there's another Pokemon comment here

[1:44:33] >> Green. Wasn't Wasn't Wasn't like You're talking about the previous era. Boy. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't Wasn't Green something. >> Maybe. All I know is Pokemon weird rumor

[1:44:48] >> is the only Pokemon game I ever played. And from every conversation that I've >> that was the right choice. >> They were like, "Yep, you had the >> And I played it on a Game Boy Color emulator. So, I like got to see it in

[1:45:04] color, I think. Or was it? I don't know. It doesn't really matter. You don't even >> My nostalgia glasses say it was in color. >> Sure. It might not have been. >> You're right. Green was Japan only.

[1:45:17] >> cool. >> So, for us it was it was just it was just red and blue and then yellow came out and that was like weird. And >> Growling Wing says real Chads played yellow, but like yellow wasn't out yet.

[1:45:30] So, I was just too OG for yellow. So, >> that's why I said it was weird. Red and blue were first. >> Whatever. I still have my cartridge of >> Nice. Solid blue homies. >> Yeah.

[1:45:42] you both. >> Seriously? have two. Everybody seems to be care about Pokemon today. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, hi Wow. Question for Luke.

[1:45:56] looking forward to the any potential announcements for the series 30th anniversary? >> Uh, no. I'm not looking forward to any [laughter and gasps] I know that might suck, but like uh I don't tend to like

[1:46:11] the mainline games anymore. I actually don't even like the game that I play. I think Pokémon Go is just like objectively a pretty bad game other than the fact that it tends to usually incentivize going outside and there's so

[1:46:28] few things that do that on your phone. Um, and I think that is super super >> While you finish this up, I got to go use water gun. use water gun. >> Sounds good. But the the concepts around

[1:46:43] um how the PvP works I think are terrible. I think the raiding system is in a lot of ways really bad. I think the max battle system is terrible. I think

[1:46:55] how they deal with catching, especially things that you technically paid money for in some way, is horrible. I think their event management is just trash. Like, in so many ways, it's a terrible, terrible game that sucks. It it's one of

[1:47:10] "Oh, you have to have remote rating because of like uh people who are because of like uh people who are immobilized," it's like, "Okay, I would highly recommend playing anything else cuz it's a terrible game." I guess I'm

[1:47:25] supposed to look over here. Sorry. Um if you're stuck at home, >> there's like near infinite other things you could play that are just better. [laughter] like ah you don't need to spend money an

[1:47:38] extra amount of money to be able to play from your couch to be able to play a bad from your couch to be able to play a bad game from your couch. Um the the only gets you outside and then it gets you moving. So if you can't do one or either

[1:47:52] of those things, just play a better game. I would highly recommend playing game. I would highly recommend playing just a just a definitely better game. Um that that's my main stance there. the mainline Pokemon games. I bought

[1:48:05] whatever it's called, Scarlet or something. Oh man, because I bought it. I've been kind of like forcing myself to play when I play It's starting to get better. The

[1:48:18] beginning was really, really slow and it's starting to get a little bit better, but still it's like I don't know. It uh it is different. It's an open world game in a more real way than the original Pokemon was. Um,

[1:48:40] Hot take. I love ZA. I haven't played those ones. have really great takes on it. But anyways, in terms of announcements, I'm not particularly excited. I think people in the

[1:48:55] indie scene uh that are making semi- ripoff things are doing a much better job with the Pokemon IP than Pokemon is. I think that game poke poke MMO or you could play in your browser and it was like an MMO of Fire Red or something

[1:49:13] >> and you could see all these trainers around on the map. Um, I'm wondering if on the name, but there was a there was a pixel art game of Pokemon that was an

[1:49:25] MMO that I believe was in your browser. Um, and it was that was like super cool and really fun and really hype and then Pokemon killed it. Um, PAL World was like a really interesting take on Pokemon that was actually really fun.

[1:49:38] Um, multiplayer in the same world. Wow, how has that not really been a thing? Um, having your Pokemon be able to like work with you to build things like super cool. Um, I think an actually official one for Pokemon would have been way

[1:49:54] better and not having the guns and stuff. I think have actually would have legitimately been better. Uh, I think PAL World needed to do stuff like that in order to not infringe too much. So, hooray. That was definitely the right

[1:50:06] choice. But I would prefer to just play a first party one that was actually wellmade. But none of them exist. Um, but yeah, people are saying Pok MMO. So, yeah, apparently that uh let me see if I can find it. PA MMO.

[1:50:21] What if there's still more? Oh, they have a website still. What the heck? Are they still alive? Wild. I thought they got like banned off of the everything. Um,

[1:50:39] but yeah, like these these experiences made by others. um have been better. So, no, I'm not particularly interested about uh announcements. Favorite Pokemon? Kadabra. Uh my reason for that was I

[1:50:53] never traded back in the day when I had my my Pokemon Blue. Um I I think I like we didn't have a link cable or or something. I I don't remember. Uh but something. I I don't remember. Uh but never really traded. And I I remember

[1:51:08] above Misty's gym, you cross the bridge, you go to the left, and then you come back down, there's this patch of grass, and if you go up and up and up and up, up and down, up and down. My brother told me you could catch an Abra in

[1:51:20] there. So I would go do that, and I would finally catch an Abra. And then if you do the the old brutal exp trip where trick where you have to send the Abra that can tank it and you eventually get a Kadabra, that Kadabra will just hard

[1:51:33] carry you for like the entire game. Kadabra is sick in those old games. Um I found a lot of the Pokemon that you either needed to trade to evolve or that of my favorite ones. Like Gyarados getting that Magikarp from the from the

[1:51:49] then you turn into a Magikarp. fantastic Pokémon. Kadabra, Pokémon. Kadabra, uh, Machoke, um, >> Why do you keep going for like mid tier evolutions of these?

[1:52:04] >> Explaining cuz I I think we didn't have a link cable or something, >> so we couldn't trade to those ones required to trade to evolve. >> Well, you could get him a champ. >> No, I don't think I don't think so.

[1:52:17] >> No, you could. I'm pretty sure. I don't I thought you had to trade it. >> Was it very effective? >> It was very effective. Super effective >> Um he he went.

[1:52:31] >> Water gun. >> Trade only. Yeah. >> Oh, I must just remember fighting them or something. In fairness to me, this >> You would have fought them. I I think there's a gym leader that has them or

[1:52:44] >> Yeah. Okay. Um but yeah, Machoke you needed to trade in order to get Machamp, to the other person. Yeah, you could trade it back, but like I don't know. Um uh Kadabra in order to get Alakazam, you had to trade, uh in order to get Golem,

[1:53:00] you had to trade a Graler. Um those are the three that I really remember. Um yeah, the other really cool one, oh yeah, Gengar. That's why Haunter is my favorite one out of that chain is because to get Gengar, you had to trade.

[1:53:16] That's why my one laptop was called Haunter and not Gengar because Haunter is my favorite one because I never was never able to trade up. Um, and Haunter is also incredibly powerful in those games cuz Ghost is just like immune to a

[1:53:29] games cuz Ghost is just like immune to a ton of attacks which is crazy. >> It wasn't a particularly balanced game. >> No, not at [laughter] all. >> It was more about selling toys. Yeah. Um, yeah. [snorts]

[1:53:43] favorite one. He was my hard carry. >> Yeah. Sammy's favorite Pokemon is >> Solid. >> It's It's so It's so common for people to be like Charizard or whatever. It's like, okay. I mean,

[1:53:56] >> That's cool. Yeah. Pikachu, Eevee, whatever. It's like, all right. >> What's your favorite Pokemon? >> When did the Eevee obsession show up? >> It's more modern, >> is it? Okay. Is E does Eevee feature

[1:54:09] really prominently in like modern shows and stuff or something or like a lot more. Like there's a ton more Eevee evolutions now. >> Oh, dude. And like when I um like I got this like Pokemon Find and seek like

[1:54:23] some relative gave it to us or something. It was all like Eevee. I was thought it's all it's all Pikachu and like Charmander and Charizard and >> There's also like communities that kind of form behind different Eevees. Tumblr

[1:54:38] >> Well, Tumblr I think was largely because Sylveon is uh a lot a lot of people in the trans community because Sylveon has the trans colors have bannered behind >> but then like similarly there's like other Pokemon uh

[1:54:55] for for for reasons people like Vaporeon. Um there's there's there's Vaporeon. Um there's there's there's other stuff going on. Uh, yeah, but on. >> Okay. I would I would need to be

[1:55:09] >> Sprites. Let's go. >> I need to be reminded of all the favorite. >> I also really really like uh Pidgeotto. Pidgeot. >> I was about to say I lowkey loved my uh

[1:55:22] >> They're actually awesome. >> Yeah, by like late game Pidgeot is actually pretty pretty solid. Uh I actually kind of loved my Radicate. >> I don't I don't like Radicate, but I like that you like Radicate. I think

[1:55:36] >> the Nittos are pretty sweet. >> Kadabra, let's go. >> I was a huge fan of Geodude. >> Did not love this.

[1:55:49] neither. Not really. >> Didn't care about that. Uh, Geodude is >> Yeah, exactly. >> Like he just will one hit basically anything. Hit so hard. so little damage

[1:56:04] >> Okay, fantastic. I love horses, so therefore I immediately love Ponita, but I just didn't really need it because I by the time you get this, I think you >> Is that even in blue? I thought I thought we had uh Growli.

[1:56:20] >> I don't remember which one. Don't remember which one. There's some Pokemon that aren't you have to trade for them. >> I think you can do maybe you might fight >> You definitely do. There's the gamblers that have them. Those little old guys,

[1:56:33] >> Um, >> ask why, than I remember there being. >> There's a Reyhorn and Choyer in in chat. That's based. That's a that's a based favorite

[1:56:46] Pokemon. >> These fighting guys are pretty cool, but >> These fighting guys are pretty cool, but I never really bothered with them.

[1:57:01] blah blah. I just really liked the design for this ever had one. >> They're cool,

[1:57:13] >> And you'd have to be like you'd have to have a heart of stone to not love. >> Yeah, very true. >> Yeah. You know what? If I had to pick >> Also, I I really dislike a lot of the modern systems. Um,

[1:57:28] I I've often talked about how a lot of the modern Pokemon systems just make it feel like Digimon to me. >> I don't even know what Digimon is. >> I don't even know what Digimon is. >> Mega mode ex

[1:57:45] but but I do think Gigantamax Snorlax is awesome. The fact that he just he's just still sleeping on the road and just stuff grew on him. Hilarious.

[1:57:57] stuff grew on him. Hilarious. >> [laughter] might actually like this. Jandamax Meowth is just [laughter] >> he's just like buildings tall.

[1:58:14] >> it's all very Power Rangersy to me. I think that was probably my first >> to like >> Japanese style fighting media. >> Yeah. >> Where the fight has three stages every

[1:58:30] >> Where the fight has three stages every time. You fight the putties and then you time. You fight the putties and then you fight the boss and then you both level up and you fight again. And all of the foreplay was completely unnecessary.

[1:58:42] >> Yeah, that's totally Yeah. Now there's megas and and all this other junk. It gets a little ridiculous. And like, okay, I know anytime anytime you make a compare, like you look at new Pokemon and you're like, why is there keys? Why

[1:58:57] is a set of keys a Pokemon? And people go, yeah, well, you can look at Gen One and there's like some silly garbage as well. Um, >> Porygon. >> What's Porygon? He's He's

[1:59:12] >> I don't Sorry. What's it called? >> Porygon. I don't think that's Gen One. >> Uh, yeah. >> How do I spell it? >> P O R Y G O N.

[1:59:25] >> Oh, this. What is this? >> This is my point. He's just like shapes. >> No, he's a duck. Um, >> What are some other silly Gen One Pokemon?

[1:59:42] >> my my thing is like for the most part it was like this is a mouse except it's was like this is a mouse except it's electric. Hooray. Yeah. Uh I mean, yeah, Machoke is just like a jacked guy. Um >> he's a jacked like kind of Well, okay.

[1:59:56] >> he's a jacked like kind of Well, okay. >> Mr. Mime is just a creepy guy. Um, like the gas one is like so that we could have like a gaseous thing >> I have no problem with Gastly personally. Um,

[2:00:12] >> I thought Ditto was kind of like random. >> Magnemite is just magnets. >> Uh, what's the one that's >> Magneton is just a lot of magnets. >> But but I I I think like I'm very cool with things like Onyx. It's a bunch of

[2:00:27] rocks in a row. Neat. Geodude. It's a single rock. It has arms for some reason. I don't care. Neat. I like stuff like that. I don't like this is a space Like I I don't want that. >> I'm just glad we're all passionate about

[2:00:43] excited about. >> Like what is that? Why is that a Pokemon? >> I think it's a lobster. Um,

[2:00:57] Um, what are these? Lobster or eagle? Scorpion. >> Does that Does that as a gen one onlyer, >> No. >> Yeah, exactly. That's my problem with

[2:01:10] some of the new stuff. >> And I will always be a gen one onlyer because I'm sorry, but I just cannot be asked to collect them all more than 151 >> So many more. Nope. >> How many Pokemon are there total?

[2:01:22] Pokemon. You're welcome. >> So, the for the delusional people that think there's more than 151. Yeah. >> That's crazy. It makes no sense. >> That is crazy.

[2:01:35] >> 51. >> 151. 121. >> Chopping 30 of them off. >> Anything I had to trade [laughter] for doesn't count.

[2:01:52] >> Oh man. Okay. How many people did we just bother? 152 msigno. I like that. doesn't count. >> glitch, please. >> My delusion is that there's 152.

[2:02:06] What's next? Pokemon. >> First, Apple adopts RCS. Now, it tests end to end encryption. In the latest iOS 26.4 for beta build. Apple explains that

[2:02:22] it is now rolling out testing endto-end encryption in RCS messaging on iPhone currently not shipping on certain devices and carriers. But the big news about this was that it is only testing the RCS encryption between iPhones, not

[2:02:35] between Androids. They're not saying that they will never support it on Android. But um while other people are super negative about this, saying, "Well, isn't the point of RCS endto-end encryption so that you can have

[2:02:47] encryption when you're texting with an Android acquaintance?" Uh I personally am choosing to believe that this will this is just the start and they will this is just the start and they will roll into encryption to Android um

[2:03:01] friends at some point. And so that's why I cared to talk about it. [snorts] I'm I'm I'm I'm in good faith believing that Apple is going to continue to do the right thing and continue to move RCS forward. Uh oh, speaking of good things

[2:03:16] forward. Uh oh, speaking of good things that I'm super excited about, Android that I'm super excited about, Android finally, after all these years, finally finally, after all these years, finally did it.

[2:03:32] something. >> Apparently, r/Pixel phones, Android 17, by the way. >> Wow. Works for me. Pixel 10 Pro, Android

[2:03:44] >> Wow. Works for me. Pixel 10 Pro, Android 17. If it's in mainline Android, because I I don't care about running a Pixel, but what I do care about is I want a Sony. I want an Xperia.

[2:04:03] probably going to take a little bit. But when that propagates, I am like first in line. I'm going to import an Xperia from Japan. And I'm so ready. I'm so excited.

[2:04:15] They're so good. Yes, I know Samsung had this for so many years, but what if I wanted something other than Samsung? OnePlus also supports it. I believe nothing supports it. There are there are vendors that

[2:04:27] support it, but Google themselves hasn't supported it. And uh Samsung or excuse me, Samsung and Sony, to my knowledge, just kind of sticks as close to stock just kind of sticks as close to stock Android as as possible and has not

[2:04:42] excited. >> I'm on 16 right now and it's not here. So, if it's 17, >> then I'll be getting it soon and I'll let you know and then >> you can buy one, too. Yeah, there was

[2:04:54] commenters on the Reddit thread that was saying it's specifically Android 17. And I still haven't wiped my old one for you to play with, Luke. That's okay. Yoo Aido asks, "Remind me which side is the right side Linus?" You can always tell

[2:05:10] because the left hand makes an L. So this is the right. answer is that there is no correct side, on whether you're left or right-handed, depending on whether you prefer the task

[2:05:26] you're holding it in your right hand or being closer when you're holding it in your left hand, that is completely personal preference, and there should never have been any reason that you should have had to choose. This is good.

[2:05:39] should have had to choose. This is good. This is a win for for user choice. All right. What else we got? Uh, let's see here.

[2:05:53] >> You want more good news? >> Why charge when you can use Why Charge? >> Why charge? A company that has been pioneering wireless charging has announced their second batch for their wireless power kit.

[2:06:06] >> Huh. So, I did a short circuit on this thing a little while ago, and the difference, and the reason I wanted to highlight it again is that it's way cheaper now. It was like a commercial only solution not that long ago, and now

[2:06:22] they have support for the Schlage Encode, which is, from my understanding, Encode, which is, from my understanding, a much more popular smart lock. So, you just take out the battery cover, put on the receiver module. Boom. You never

[2:06:35] the receiver module. Boom. You never ever charge your smart lock again. You don't like have it just randomly die at an inopportune time and you have to use a key. It just has power forever. Um, I've been using my like commercial one

[2:06:48] with the Alfred Smart Lock at my house. It just is always charged and will always be charged forever. It's super cool. Uh we first covered these guys at Computex like 10 years ago and it took them five ever to whether it

[2:07:04] was funding or partnerships or development to get this technology rolling and it's finally it's finally happening. So they just seem like cool people who are finally catching a break and I just wanted to highlight that.

[2:07:18] and I just wanted to highlight that. [snorts] Good stuff. The registry from Save the Life, a pet microchip company, became inaccessible

[2:07:31] when the company went out of business in January 2024. For those unfamiliar, pet microchips are simple RFID chips that produce a unique string of numbers when scanned. Databases like Save the Life link that identifier to pet information

[2:07:45] that vets can access. There was apparently very little notice of the shutdown, leaving many pets unknowingly unidentifiable to vets and shelters.

[2:07:57] Cincinnati Animal Care says it's found 65 dogs with useless chips. Only about half of their owners were found. Pets registered to save the life should another microchip company, which is usually free. This whole thing raised a

[2:08:12] whole bunch of questions for me. namely, what was the point of putting a microchip in my pets? Um, I've microchipped every one of my pets that I've ever had, thinking that like the idea was that they scanned

[2:08:27] it and the information was just there, readable in plain text, which I don't actually mind if somebody has my cat because I want it back. >> I thought it was too. >> So, this was this was insane to me. I I

[2:08:40] kind of understand like the privacy potentially of like an animal is microchip and what you get you get a girl's phone number that way. Like come on, man. Like I I if if a if it's a if it's an alternative to a collar or a

[2:08:56] tattoo probably plain text would have been probably plain text would have been fine. What was the point of this? >> Yikes. >> So frustrating. I hate that on like

[2:09:08] multiple levels. >> Like I I had I had hope, you know, that >> Like I I had I had hope, you know, that when I when the Bengal cats escaped that someone would find them and they would eventually, even if someone stole them,

[2:09:22] they would eventually make their way to a vet, eventually get scanned, and I would eventually be contacted. But this whole ecosystem is just more stupid and fragmented than I could have re than I realized. I guess I could have looked it

[2:09:35] up. I could have found this out, but uh I mean nowadays we we tattoo and microchip our animals and we don't let them outside under any circumstances, so it hasn't been as much of a problem. The Bengals were also just escape artists.

[2:09:49] Rumble was able to jump up and hang off of the door handle to open the door, which is like really. And when you we had little kids and we had people like coming in and out and then Yeah. Anyway, that's that's history at this point. Um,

[2:10:04] and it's a lot easier now. Uh, all of our cats that we have right now started their lives outdoors and they are likeing stoked to be inside. [laughter] None of them try to get out. We accidentally,

[2:10:18] one of the kids left the door open for half an hour like a few weekends ago and we were like, "Ah, panic. Cat check. Everyone find all the cats." No one went anywhere near it, especially the boys. Uh, Brownie and Noodle are

[2:10:35] the boys. Uh, Brownie and Noodle are like they they lived outside until like they they lived outside until they were like old enough that I was worried that they would be difficult to socialize. Um, and

[2:10:47] >> didn't the vet even have a concern about that? I thought there was something. >> No, our vet was pretty chill about it. Uh, no, that was that was to do with to um >> I knew there was some

[2:10:59] >> Yeah, we had to we had to isolate them from the other cats for quite a while have like a dormant infection that could get the other cats or whatever. >> but but yeah, they they were outdoor cats for quite a while and we we c

[2:11:13] caught them with like a live trap and brought them in and and tried to socialize them. I shouldn't say tried. um with socialized socialized. Noodle's still a little bit skitterish. He's he was you know he was

[2:11:26] a wild thing at some point >> and um those guys especially are just like nope. They hunted they hunted for their food when they were just little boys and they are not into it. They [laughter]

[2:11:45] >> um from the door? Yeah. No, but they they do. They're like not interested. >> I meant when it was left open. >> Whereas like some of the the other ones, the the the two the two newer ones, they were just like little they were born in

[2:12:01] been they've never really had to hunt for anything cuz the family found them and fed them and took care of them and everything. Um so they'll like they'll like and they'll sniff they'll sniff the outside and they'll be like kind of

[2:12:13] >> or had the concern of being hunted. >> No, they've never had to deal with that. cat is terrified of the concept of an outside existing."

[2:12:27] them that way. >> Hey, do you want to talk about Zillow? >> Hey, do you want to talk about Zillow? >> Yeah. Uh yeah. Uh Zillow launches a wow themed micro site as a marketing Okay. As a marketing stunt. I saw this in my

[2:12:41] Google news and went hm. and then kept scrolling because I was like, there's no way that's actually real. Uh, the experience coincides with WoW time. Tied to the upcoming Midnight expansion, the Microite features both

[2:12:57] playercreated homes and Blizzard built homes, some with 3D tours. In a move that can only be described as savagely realistic, you [laughter] >> I can't interface with this. >> You can't actually buy the houses, but

[2:13:10] >> You can't actually buy the houses, but users can. Hilariously, claim a a free users can. Hilariously, claim a a free in-game Zillow inspired doormat.

[2:13:23] with fictional Zillow real estate agents. [sighs] Given the current affordability and on the part of Zillow and Blizzard? Is it just fun? It's definitely just fun.

[2:13:38] I mean, I don't care about it at all, but I'm sure it's it's fun for someone, tonedeaf, dude. People are buying houses. Um,

[2:13:51] houses. Um, it's just not most people. And like, no, I don't think they're just going to give you an entire house in the game for free. So, a doormat is a collectible item. That's still neat as a

[2:14:04] free thing, part of a just a fun random promotional campaign. I think I think promotional campaign. I think I think just don't think about it too much.

[2:14:16] now. Oh, dang. It Okay, well, whatever. That's kind of what it looks like. Good enough. >> Oh, here. I'll go to Luke's laptop. >> Sure.

[2:14:30] >> There you go. Rugged, rustic. These are actually >> It's funny cuz the the photos and the videos that I'm seeing for these are photos and videos that I see from realtors of actual homes.

[2:14:44] >> So that's kind of funny and kind of sad. >> Where's the HDR? >> Where's the HDR? >> Yeah, really. Um, Beckar Don Hamar, that's actually awesome. Uh, wow. It even Wow, this is so much.

[2:14:59] There's a floor plan. We are destroying most realtor posted homes. Oh my goodness. >> Anything that lacks a floor plan is so annoying to me. >> All right, meet [snorts] the owner.

[2:15:13] >> All right, meet [snorts] the owner. That's not very normal. Neat, fun. >> Oh, speaking of neat and fun, we should talk about what's neat and fun on Flow Plane.

[2:15:25] >> FB announcement. Please read all the way through before going off topic. >> I don't think we >> Let's specifically go on off topic. last time. The problem last time was that they put information that you

[2:15:41] needed at the beginning at the end. >> Yeah. This week's theme is how many resources can Sammy steal from the company before can Sammy steal from the company before being fired. H we got a deep look inside

[2:15:53] what a week at LMG looks like with some LTT leaks. Sorry, not sorry. Sammy vlogged his entire week showcasing things like how production shoots are scheduled, the behind the scenes on set, our camera setups, uh merching our

[2:16:08] videos, which is what we call it when we like um do packaging, so title, thumbnail, that kind of thing. It also includes a ton of insider info, includes a ton of insider info, including leaking an entire month of LTT

[2:16:21] including leaking an entire month of LTT content in the first minute. so that's this video. Oh, wow. People are loving this video. All right. Well,

[2:16:35] I'm glad that it was for something. Uh, we also have a refreshed Meet the team with Mr. David Pankratz, the technical production assistant. Sammy made Pancrats fix his PC in this video because if it's for content, you're

[2:16:49] because if it's for content, you're allowed to make not it fix your things. Okay. That's good to know as well. >> I think he means his personal computer. >> What

[2:17:04] >> I think that's what he means. >> Yeah, that is not a uh workstation that >> provide to our employees. >> Hey, it doesn't look like he just fixed it. It looks like he upgraded. >> Oh, yeah. That's That's the case. That's

[2:17:17] >> Oh, yeah. That's That's the case. That's from inventory, right? >> Okay. Where are the lines? >> Oh, I see. It's signed out to Lost.

[2:17:30] >> Oh, I see. It's signed out to Lost. >> We also took in viewer questions, which um we're looking for more questions featuring our new writer Shawn Frey. We took in viewer questions, which we're looking for more. I have no idea what

[2:17:43] he's talking about. >> And we're looking for more. >> Sure. Finally, we also have an early LTT video that went up a few days ago video that went up a few days ago showcasing the Fluke II 915. And you

[2:17:55] float plane subscriber. Uh, keep an eye out for more early releases like this out for more early releases like this one, which will release right now. Oh, is Oh, we're releasing the Costco video. Oh, that's not David's best thumbnail.

[2:18:09] H, you know what? I guess it's too late now. Cool. Um, Lionus and David buy a PC from Costco to answer one question. Is it the answer to rising PC prices or is it the answer to rising PC prices or is it bait? I'm gonna take the A out there.

[2:18:23] All right, save. Boop. Subscribe now at lmg.gg/fp Also, we'll have a behind the scenes of TMS's wedding sometime next week.

[2:18:37] Seriously. All right. Sammy is like the embodiment of anything for the content. Seriously.

[2:18:51] we talk about DLSS again? There's two DLSS topics. It sounds similar. DLSS is too good now. YouTuber two, we've talked about this before. Philip, >> yeah, two clicks. Philip posted a video seeing how far they could push DLSS

[2:19:06] while still having a Oh, I've seen this for sure. Uh, quick recap for those who don't know. DLSS, really, we're going into that. Uh DLSS or deep learning super sampling is Nvidia's uh okay yeah

[2:19:20] that allows gamers to render their games at lower resolutions which are then upscaled to a more playable resolution while maintaining high frame rates. Uh, the YouTuber tested Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 at 20% render for 4K,

[2:19:36] Deliverance 2 at 20% render for 4K, meaning 764x 430 all the way down to 1% meaning 764x 430 all the way down to 1% scale or 38x 22, just 22 >> pixels. That's it. And it's impressive

[2:19:50] >> pixels. That's it. And it's impressive how well DLSS works now. Uh, and we have watch the video. >> This is mind-blowing. The fact that that you can kind of you could totally play that is nuts.

[2:20:06] >> no, >> but you could. >> but you could. >> Here is 136 by 76. So, this is what, like 3% or something. Or no, cuz it's probably it's probably not linear cuz

[2:20:18] that's actually a much larger. It's like 3% in each dimension. But you guys should definitely check out this video. It's got like half a million I'm just going to >> When did this come out? Cuz I feel like

[2:20:31] I saw this a bit ago. >> Yeah. Here you go. So, this is This is >> Yeah. This is 3 weeks old. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, this is original versus the upscaled

[2:20:44] >> It's genuinely pretty fascinating >> how it can take that >> how it can take that and turn it into that this and turn it into this.

[2:20:58] and turn it into this. genuinely incredible. Like there's a lot going on over here where I would have a hard time telling if this is a like my human eyes if this is a path leading off this way or if it's a shadow of this

[2:21:11] tree or like what the crap this is supposed to be. How it managed to resolve any additional detail in the grass over here. Mindblowing.

[2:21:25] shadows and the lighting and the bark here based on this Mindblowing. Pretty impressive. That was it. Just Clicks Phillips. Uh >> a super cool video.

[2:21:39] yeah, three weeks ago. >> Yep. >> Yeah, we we never we never kind of talked about it. So, guys, go go go >> Really really really cool. >> Noi just uh threw the link in the chat.

[2:21:52] >> Bookmark that for later because you're not done watching. >> I wouldn't have thought to put that in the dock, but that was that was awesome. >> There's been a new world record set for the tiniest QR code. The source this

[2:22:06] time is Tom's Hardware. This is kind of incredible. You want to do the story? >> Sure. uh with a pixel size of 49 nanometers. The smaller than a bacteria QR codes were created as a collaboration between Vienna University of Technology

[2:22:21] and data storage company. Sarah Cereby. >> Uh the codes are less than half the size of the previous record and require an electron microscope to read. The achievement will enable greater

[2:22:34] achievement will enable greater densities in cerabytes. Yeah, ceryite makes more sense. I've heard of Sarabyte before. Uh CBY's ceramic storage, which they claim could enable very long-term storage with

[2:22:46] enable very long-term storage with capacities up to 100 pabytes by 2030. Uh There's just a typo. Um discussion need at home, you know, for all those Linux ISOs?

[2:22:59] Well, there's been a lot of very musically focused Linux distros recently. >> how big is that even though? >> Not 100 pabytes.

[2:23:14] it was >> about a pabyte. >> Yeah, 100 pabytes. I mean, recalling this data is extremely challenging. This is meant for like my understanding is like very

[2:23:27] long-term resilient storage like mass amounts of storage. And for that we need amounts of storage. And for that we need a lot but only if we care to preserve

[2:23:39] everything that's being created right now. But so much of it is slop that I want >> wonder if we don't really need to be forgotten. >> Oh, really? I thought it was a pabyte.

[2:23:52] >> 300 terabytes. That sounds right to me. I had in my "Yeah, it can't be enough." But I think I thought there was a three in it.

[2:24:11] Anyway, I thought this was cool. That's all. No notes for this one. Well, they put a few notes. Unreal Engine Tournament. Unreal Tournament 2004. The Okay, who's responsible for calling it Unreal Engine Tournament?

[2:24:24] not going to name and shame. The point is, it was not called that. It was called Unreal Tournament. [laughter] Unreal Tournament 2004 is now available for free thanks to community collaboration.

[2:24:39] all time, just received its first public patch in over 20 years. This was made possible by Old Unreal, a community support project dedicated to keeping early epic titles alive. This patch includes support for Windows, Linux, and

[2:24:53] Mac OS along with various quality of life updates. Epic has given permission for them to host the original files. So, they have an easy to use installer available. Super cool. Shout out Epic. Love to see

[2:25:08] it. That's all I have to say about that. Yeah, I found just for people wondering, it's definitely 300 terabytes. I found a some very early articles that seem to just be kind of making up part of the story that said a pabyte, but it was

[2:25:21] confirmed for sure a lot of times that it's 300 terabytes. All right. Meta wants to Oh, yeah. Oh, Meta wants to make your grandma immortal. A patent granted late in

[2:25:36] December outlines the use of an LLM to simulate a person's social media activity when the user takes a long break or is deceased. The document break or is deceased. The document states that the impact on the user is

[2:25:49] much more severe and permanent if that user is deceased and can never return to the platform. No. Uh, your your new AI nana could like, comment, and respond to DMs from beyond the grave, potentially even

[2:26:05] beyond the grave, potentially even joining audio and video calls. Meta says the technology would be great for influencers who want to take a break income. >> Get rid of it, Dan.

[2:26:18] >> Thank you. One of the crazy things is I saw this in my Google news feed probably 10 minutes after seeing somebody on Facebook because I was jumping on Facebook go to marketplace. I saw somebody on Facebook

[2:26:33] who's definitely passed away uh that you know um worked here. Um and that was like you know a sad moment to see them. I'm pretty happy that I didn't have a

[2:26:45] I'm pretty happy that I didn't have a new message from them. getting pretty close to the end. Um and the last thing

[2:27:02] the last thing that I want is fake real conversations that I want is fake real conversations with them. I'm I'm instead taking time now to talk to them while I still can. And that's what we should do if

[2:27:17] possible. And if it's not possible, this is not the answer. Hey, but in other news, the Netherlands defense secretary said on a podcast that

[2:27:30] the F-35, like the war plane, can be jailbroken just like an iPhone, implying that European forces could maintain the European forces could maintain the aircraft software without US and Loheed

[2:27:45] Martin support. Currently, the F-35 software is managed through Loheed Martin's autonomic logistics information system, which pushes updates to the fleet every year or two. European countries own the physical planes, but

[2:27:57] the US controls the software and update pipeline. Israel is currently the only Loheed Martin, allowing it to run its own software on the F-35 fleet. The comments came amid broader European fears that the US could remotely disable

[2:28:12] fears that the US could remotely disable F-35 fleets. Oh boy, going to butcher this. Yoim Shran Shranhoffer, head of comms at German defense contractor Henult uh previously said the idea of a remote

[2:28:26] kill switch was more than just a rumor. I got to say the main reason that I flagged this for the WAN show was that while I realized that this was a problem while I realized that this was a problem on a telephone and I realized that it

[2:28:41] on a telephone and I realized that it was a problem on a tractor, I did not military jet. >> Oh yeah. >> For how much you pay for them. You've got to being kidding me that you can't

[2:28:53] >> Oh yeah, that too. >> Yeah, that part. Yeah, >> that's insane. Yeah. >> How how did we all like even at that level except that this is okay.

[2:29:07] >> No. >> That's why >> There's not a ton and they would all have probably a similar problem. >> I mean, yes and no. I bet if everyone got together and boycott basically just

[2:29:21] said no, we will literally not buy any if you don't deal with this. out? >> I feel like they just try to hide it.

[2:29:35] >> In other German news, Acer and ASUS have been blocked from selling PCs in Germany. >> They could also just say, "No, have fun being not superior." >> Right.

[2:29:48] >> Another angle they could take. A German court has granted Nokia an injunction against the two firms selling desktops and laptops. Stock that's already in the country can still be sold. Nokia claims Acer Asus and TV maker Highense are

[2:30:02] infringing on three patents related to the high efficiency video codec HEVC aka Highsense decided to enter a licensing agreement with Nokia in January, but Acer and ASUS continue to fight the allegations in court. HVC is considered

[2:30:18] a standard essential patent due to its widespread use, which means special broadly available while the patent holder is still fairly compensated. And that's it. That's why HEVC never really took off because of stuff like this,

[2:30:33] which blows. And in other news, Google suddenly cares about IP theft. This is hilarious. >> Yeah. Um, where are we at? Where is that >> Yeah. Um, where are we at? Where is that one?

[2:30:48] this is, but Google is accusing commercially motivated actors of trying to clone the proprietary logic behind Gemini AI. Um, in other news, the entire

[2:31:01] world is accusing Google of slurping up proprietary. Yeah. Yeah. Google says uh distillation attacks have agents querying Gemini up to a 100,000 times to querying Gemini up to a 100,000 times to try to extract the underlying model. Uh

[2:31:15] that has been happening for a long time and has happened to other people as well. Most notably OpenAI. Uh model distillation. Ah hey okay. Model distillation attacks aren't a new thing. In early 2025, OpenAI suggested that

[2:31:29] Chinese startup Deepseek had distilled OpenAI's models to create their own far as my understanding goes is like effectively confirmed, but I don't effectively confirmed, but I don't actually know that. Um, where's the

[2:31:44] >> Yeah. Where's the line? How much does your company need to be worth to ignore the law? Um, >> I just think this is hilarious because IP theft matters >> immediately when it's their IP theft and

[2:31:57] it doesn't matter that what underpins it was massive IP has ever seen before. >> Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. >> Last topic. Harmful chemicals may be in

[2:32:14] An EU environmental advocacy group called Toxfree Life for All released a study that tested 81 pairs of headphones and supposedly found hazardous >> Got to be careful. >> The substances included known endocrine

[2:32:29] disruptors um which led to some highly sensationalized pieces suggesting that compared to headphones if you are trying to avoid cancer.

[2:32:41] The study actually does seem to have some validity to it, but it mainly aimed to address companies that circumvent regulations with equally bad handled on a substance by substance basis. Not to mention that these

[2:32:54] cumulative long-term exposure across many kinds of plastics. Products like many kinds of plastics. Products like Apple AirPods Pro 2s and Sony WH100XM5s were rated safe. The real problems were knockoffs from marketplaces like Teu.

[2:33:08] [snorts] Um, that's >> it's not surprising, but it's also like, dang, the ones that are safe are really expensive. >> Um, also,

[2:33:20] okay, Riley sent me another kind of summary of this that I had sort of expected to be in the summary that was in the uh the W show doc. Um but basically he was kind of saying that a lot of this is sort of extrapolating

[2:33:38] a lot of this is sort of extrapolating what may be a concern. So commenters they might be using alternative >> and [snorts] um that some of these chemicals still

[2:33:51] need to be like studied and turned it into connected these dots and um gone and then meanwhile the other side has gone completely other side of the pendulum swing and gone that's such an overreaction that it must be completely

[2:34:06] safe and there is no problem. But as usual, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. >> Mhm. >> I've got I've got one more. Uh chat

[2:34:20] or us really. Uh we have really kind of People wanted our comments on this. >> Oh, that's bad. >> Whoops. >> Um

[2:34:32] >> Um >> you should not do that. how compartmentalized certain systems are cuz people were like, "Oh, like with but like the homepage is down and blah blah blah blah blah." And it's like,

[2:34:47] yeah, it's these systems are really fascinating. Um, but anyways, moving on talked about a little bit in the pre-show. Hackers exposed Discord age verification system issue after Persona frontend code was left wide open. Uh we

[2:35:02] don't have topic notes on this but uh this this is I I think what I said in the pre-show was like whoever did this I want to shake your hand. Um great work. point >> and that's such a good point to make and

[2:35:18] so fast. >> This is why this is a problem. >> This is why this is a problem. >> Way to go. Thank you. Um, but >> Way to go. Thank you. Um, but yeah, this just goes to show that we

[2:35:33] need them to not collect data like this because it's just going to go out there. because it's just going to go out there. Um, talking last week, try some alternatives. Have have a like fun

[2:35:47] you're like, "Let's play three different games and each time let's try a fun." um and and see how it goes. And even if you end up having both or something like

[2:36:01] that, at least start legitimizing alternatives. Um one of the biggest issues when you have markets like the voice chat market is there is only one thing that matters right now and that sucks. And if we can even make it so

[2:36:14] that there's two that is such a massive gain. If there's if we start there's other ones that people use, then Discord's market show will will fall quickly. Uh, and that's a good idea. >> The whole 3D printed guns thing is

[2:36:29] continuing to evolve. California bill would restrict 3D printer sales to state approved models to prevent printing gun parts. Joins Washington and New York on to work. >> So, first of all, it won't work. Second

[2:36:43] of all, rough. because now there's now there's all this insider collusion of of companies bribing people to be on the approved amount of corruption in every single government everywhere. So that's

[2:36:55] definitely going to happen. I'm not even calling out America. It's just the world. Um if if this was in Canada, the same thing would be a problem. Uh especially BC. [laughter]

[2:37:09] [laughter] Hey. >> Yes. >> After dark. Button.

[2:37:21] Button. Button. There we go. All right. Up Button. There we go. All right. Up first. Hey LLD and future me. Always watch VOD on Saturday mornings. What's the scariest thing about starting your

[2:37:34] that fear? >> Uh, the scariest thing is not having money to eat and to pay the people who work for you. and um your mortgage and uh how did you deal with that fear?

[2:37:50] with that fear? Work harder so that that doesn't happen. I mean, it's just it's it's a tale as old as time, right? It there are

[2:38:02] advantages to entrepreneurship and there are advantages to employment. Hitching your cart to a horse that has has been walking for a long time and seems to have a lot of road out ahead of it offers security while

[2:38:18] entrepreneurship can offer incredible opportunity. But I forget what percentage of businesses that fail in the first 5 years, but it's it's a lot. So it's it's not a guarantee and it's not right for everyone, but it was right

[2:38:33] way that it did. Oh, I accidentally just archived the No, Oh, I accidentally just archived the No, I didn't. Nope, that was me. Nice. Hi, Lionus and Luke. My grade school kids love gaming and learning about PC parts

[2:38:47] thanks to Astrobot, but Windows feels complex versus consoles/tromebooks. Any tips for teaching them a quote unquote real operating system?

[2:39:03] try to make it fun. Yeah. And I mean, realistically, my I was kind of blown was doing so that he could um mod Minecraft and stuff. They just have to

[2:39:15] Otherwise, they're not going to bother. Windows is not that complicated these Windows is not that complicated these days if you are sufficiently motivated. >> To to do it. And kids brains are so malleable. I was see Do you see the Do

[2:39:28] you see that kid that like destroyed the sub3 second solve on a 3x3 Rubik's cube recently? Kids like seven or something? I don't I don't know how old he is. Sevenyear-olds with chess or Rubik's cubes are terrifying.

[2:39:44] >> Yeah. Hold on. What's this kid's name? Uh Teodor Zad Zag Zagger. 2.76 2.76 seconds.

[2:39:56] seconds. That's absurd. Seven years ago, this was a question. Will there ever be a sub three? Sub3 I could see as the very edge of possibility with an absurd solve.

[2:40:12] Well, 2.76 like obliterated obliterated the record. That's a Yeah, when you're getting down into that such s such a small amount of total time, that's an insane amount of

[2:40:27] time to chop off. >> Uh blah blah blah blah blah blah. It would have to be like at an event. >> So, he gets 15 seconds to look at it.

[2:40:55] >> Like Wow. >> I'm not a but >> I will never do that. No matter how hard I tried, no matter how long I worked at

[2:41:07] it, doesn't matter. >> Yep. Saw a videogided CNC machine attached to a Rubik's cube, and it did it in like one second. So he's like twice as fast as a computerc controlled robot. [laughter]

[2:41:25] Katawa says, "I can solve in 5 minutes." Yeah, exactly. Scrappy DP, you'll also Yeah, exactly. Scrappy DP, you'll also never kick flip 100%. Um, so so so give your kids credit. Don't baby them. They can figure it out. They just have

[2:41:38] to be sufficiently motivated. Give >> them a project. It's like uh people say learn programming by making a calculator. No. Find a problem. do Yeah. >> Hi gang. Thinking about

[2:41:50] >> automate something around your house. >> Yeah. Thinking about age verification. Who do you think would be able to reliably figure out and implement safe Defcon. >> Well, that's the whole point is that you

[2:42:05] can't. It's not going to happen. And we need to stop like need to stop like chasing this weird dragon. I uh >> the only solution is for someone who already is tracking all of this like the

[2:42:22] keep it safe. >> No. >> No, I'm agreeing with you. >> No. >> Except I don't trust them to keep it safe anymore than I would even less I'd

[2:42:35] say than I would trust a corporate entity. So, since we can't do it safely, we need to just not do it. >> Like, who could figure out how to reliably make it so that I can enjoy my

[2:42:49] crystal meth? How about we just don't crystal meth? How about we just don't crystal meth? >> Yeah, it's the thing is like it's going to be circumvented anyways, obviously.

[2:43:05] >> Okay, this is pretty funny. Uh, McBain says, "Leiser Suit Larry solved that 35 check was for Leisure Suit Larry? >> I just asked you questions that only older people would know the answer to. It wouldn't work in the age of Google

[2:43:19] and um and like chat GPT or whatever, but here here >> um maybe you have to like um

[2:43:33] mean we've been controlling data collection but my my thing is like what is what is the gain and the gain effectively doesn't exist because it's It's like okay we can keep the kids from >> okay

[2:43:48] care they're going to go around it like it's >> you have you >> let's play a game. Tiptoe Through the Tulips was recorded by

[2:44:08] I'm I'm looking at some some of the >> I mean, you would know probably this one. >> A kid probably wouldn't care at that time. Do you know what a neighbor jacket

[2:44:22] >> Nope. >> Where's the beef? Okay. I wouldn't have got that. Tiny Tim. Tiny Tim. I'm upset about myself. [laughter]

[2:44:36] Uh, does a pair of queens beat three deuces? deuces? I don't think so. Three twos. Yeah. I don't think so. Three twos. Yeah. Uh, I assume this is poker. Yes. In Oh,

[2:44:51] in blackjack. Yes, in blackjack. Good gravy. Three pair above. Two pair. I >> This is multiple choice. So there >> Oh, you just have to >> Type them in. Yeah.

[2:45:04] >> Is my banana still there or not? >> Have I upgraded my card? >> Which is non-alcoholic. See, perier like this was their solution to age verification, which is pretty based

[2:45:17] actually. So cool. That's so smart. Uh, the result of Watergate was, you know, back when scandals actually had consequences. >> Oh, yeah. Any kid these days would just say nothing.

[2:45:33] >> Sorry, that was a little too real. We We paid them more money for some reason. paid them more money for some reason. [laughter] >> The result of Watergate was someone made a Watergate coin.

[2:45:48] >> Oh. Watergate NFTTS. Oh my god, [laughter] this is a real world that we live in. Hi DL. Would you rather lose 5% of your personal data at a at random every year? No backups are

[2:46:05] allowed or have 100% of your data perfectly preserved forever but completely unencrypted and publicly accessible. 5% gone. See you.

[2:46:25] He's trying to calculate how much of it's leaked. Anyways, little bit. Are we talking digital files?

[2:46:38] home. >> That's how I took it as well. first? Oh, it's not like today. It's like if >> So, I could go through and I could like remove any pictures of my passport that

[2:46:53] he could book a flight. >> But they would have to be deleted. You >> Yeah. Okay, fine. >> I I think you could never store them of it. >> No, I'd accept that going forward. I

[2:47:08] would just have to have like perfect digital hygiene. But that would mean you could never take a picture under any circumstance of your of your passport. >> I could message it to someone >> cuz it's it's the picture is only for

[2:47:21] >> cuz it's it's the picture is only for convenience. considerate. >> I think that's not in the spirit of the question. It just says personal data. I I interpret it as like things I would

[2:47:35] store on a NAS, but I I think >> Yeah, you're maybe going a bit too far. taking a photo is is personal data. >> It would be saved on your phone and then >> Yeah. So then I wouldn't take that picture anymore is what I'm saying. Like

[2:47:47] count that as like that. I wouldn't store that on a NAS. So does that count? Cuz I interpreted it as stored on a NAS and that's what I'm even remotely considering. If we're talking every message that I ever send to anyone ever

[2:48:01] >> that is personal data technically >> then. Okay. So which one is it? I leaned more to where it's the NAS side. I think that was maybe a little more easily conceptualizable. Otherwise, everything else is just like, oh well, I just let's

[2:48:16] just not use the internet. >> You have like your taxes and stuff. >> I mean, I don't think I keep that on my NAS. I don't do my taxes, so that wife >> Yeah, but that's not my personal data

[2:48:31] >> Like, I don't have it. >> So, I'm just losing 5%. But you might be able to do the hyundo. >> What about you, Dan? >> What about you, Dan? >> I think it was on the NAS. I would

[2:48:43] >> it's just personal data. I don't think you can be like just only the things I put on my nest. They said personal data. >> Then it's got to be the 5% and I'll just take five of every picture and hope that [laughter]

[2:48:55] mathematically game it. Just buy a ton of extra hard drives. >> That's what I would do. [laughter] There's like >> Well, no, cuz I think >> 40 million pictures of one parking spot.

[2:49:08] >> I don't know. I think your >> Naz if you think about [laughter] >> Uh um I think maybe more in the spirit of like 5% of like, you know, if you had 40 million of the same picture, you

[2:49:21] >> Yeah, probably. >> It's all hash. So, if it's the same >> Disagree. I would No, I would take I would just like with it. I'd hit my >> So, they're all slightly different photos,

[2:49:34] >> I think that would actually be a huge part of my my countermeasures against this is I would actually print photos. Interesting. >> Cuz for me, anything else is like

[2:49:47] replaceable, but photos are not. >> I think I'm going to do the 100%. it all out there >> cuz there stuff that I would not want to lose. Like there's a lot of stuff that I cloud replicate nightly,

[2:50:00] >> you know. It's kind of my my super slide data. Um again. Not that you do. >> Well, you can. You'll just people will >> Why not? >> Cuz you get sued to oblivion.

[2:50:13] >> There's no offiscation, though. I think you still would. I'll just slice in some zip bombs. It'll be fine. >> You can't be sued for pirating anything in Canada. That doesn't seem right. >> No, I really don't think so.

[2:50:30] like I >> this would be like an insane haven. Canada. >> Yeah, but what's the consequence for it?

[2:50:43] Like someone would have to actually pursue it I'm trying to look through it. >> I think I think just uh leeching you

[2:50:59] >> I think I think just uh leeching you can't really uh get like hit too hard for. >> In 2022, 22.4% of Canadians access >> That sounds about right. >> Let's go.

[2:51:13] >> All right. With all the tech prices, do you think >> thousands of Canadians every year are the targets of legal action based on piracy? Yeah, but is that for redistribution

[2:51:31] >> because that's my understanding? >> Doesn't seem too specific. >> With all of the tech prices, do you think Optane or Ready Boost might make a return? >> Not Optane because Intel and uh nuts.

[2:51:47] [snorts] >> completely divorced over that whole >> completely divorced over that whole thing. Uh, man, Optane was so cool. But the concept of an SSD cache, I was actually thinking about that earlier as

[2:52:00] we were talking about hard drive and storage prices. It works really well. >> It does. >> It It's It's kind of a a a very underrated solution to a problem that became not a problem, but is becoming a

[2:52:13] >> which is kind of neat because I thought it was a fun solution as well. >> I use it on my nest. >> It's fun. It's cool. It's interesting. >> It's neat. >> I tried to buy an Optane drive cuz

[2:52:25] Lionus was talking them up so much. Uh, and they were like 250 bucks for a teeny >> Really? >> Yeah. I think it was like right near the >> Yeah. I think it was like right near the end or something. And yeah, I just got

[2:52:39] end or something. And yeah, I just got like a 128 gig SSD for like a dollar at that that time. Back in my day, you can still get the 16 gig ones for like 10 bucks. 20 with delivery. >> Yeah, I wasn't looking on eBay because

[2:52:53] >> All right, here's 10 of the 16 gig ones for $53. Stuff like this is always confusing to me because I really don't think a lot

[2:53:06] me because I really don't think a lot obviously people bought them, right? Um, but like they were never popular that I was aware of. So like they clearly produced them at at a volume that like people have this many of them, you know,

[2:53:22] these? Where where did they where did >> Server offloading, I think. >> Yeah. But like 16 gig for what? >> What? Who put these in anything? What are we even talking about here?

[2:53:36] are we even talking about here? >> No idea. Yeah, right. Wild. Anyway, where do you see the line between a company's agency and the need to act upon the whims of a consumer base? I.e., why pressure Apple to support AirPods on

[2:53:52] Android if it's not the vision for the product? Because they're Bluetooth headphones that benefit from the industry-wide standard that is industry-wide standard that is Bluetooth. And in my mind, a basic part

[2:54:06] of a product is providing ongoing support, which Apple clearly agrees with given that they actually do a phenomenal job, generally speaking, of providing ongoing software and firmware support for their products. And I bought

[2:54:19] it. That's why I bought it. It's mine. You have an obligation to warranty it and support it. And the fact that I didn't buy another one of your products is just utter arrogance.

[2:54:40] experience is, that's nice. But my vision of the experience is that when you provide a firmware update, I have a way to apply it without buying another one of your products because I already bought one. It's pretty simple

[2:54:56] already bought one. It's pretty simple to me. And the fact that anyone will put Apple's dong so far down their throat to defend something like that is mindblowing. If they don't know you, they don't know

[2:55:10] your name. They don't care about you. Stop defending bad behavior. If Google same thing, I would think it was ridiculous.

[2:55:22] If you buy the product, you are the customer and you should be supported. Full stop. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[2:55:37] I'm thinking about switching to Steam OS on my main PC, but I have different monitors. Should I get all the same monitors or just wing it with the three monitors or just wing it with the three I have now?

[2:55:49] >> wing it. >> Wing it. Save that money, son. >> Yeah. >> Does it not support mismatch monitors or >> Bezels. I I think they just want their bezels to match

[2:56:01] bases look the same. Don't worry about it. >> Yeah, don't worry about it. >> Hey LLD, thinking of building a 10 GB >> Hey LLD, thinking of building a 10 GB NAS. If I am running ZFS Z2 in TRNAS,

[2:56:18] would I benefit from buying SAS drives with HBA? The Exos X24 SAS drives are almost the same price with current pricing. I wouldn't get SAS drives just because then you're limited to using SAS HBAs forever.

[2:56:33] HBAs forever. And for a home user, the benefit of SAS And for a home user, the benefit of SAS is just not going to materialize. I would I would go SATA assuming that the cost is equal. The only way that I would

[2:56:46] cost is equal. The only way that I would go SAS as a home user is that is if for some reason there was like a lot like like not like a large quantity like like a like an auction lot like like a bunch

[2:56:59] of SAS drives and they were an amazing deal like way cheaper so much cheaper that I could buy a SAS HBA and and the backup and that would be all my storage that I needed because um >> I don't see that happening right now.

[2:57:14] now. Uh, but that would be the only way that you would get me to go SAS. If I was just buying new drives, I would go SATA for sure every time. man, >> if you don't know why you need SAS, you

[2:57:28] don't need it. >> So, someone was talking ear, I don't remember why I had this thought, but somebody was talking earlier about like, oh yeah, like use buying buying new stuff right now sucks, but like the used

[2:57:40] the used market sucks right now. >> Used market is terrible right now. >> This is great. Crystal's still talking thing. She goes, "If you pay for an escort, you shouldn't be the one doing

[2:57:53] escort, you shouldn't be the one doing the deep throating." Basically, >> Well, it kind of depends, I guess. >> I mean, if you're into it, I'm not going

[2:58:05] >> some people might be into that with Apple. Apple. There are people that are into financial >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Financial abuse kink. Like what?

[2:58:18] >> What? VinDom. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Yeah, it's a thing. >> Yeah, people might be that way with Apple.

[2:58:36] >> Finn DOM. Oh, I thought you said femdom. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> I think usually it is both. >> It usually is both. Yeah. [laughter]

[2:58:51] [gasps] >> Pay pig.

[2:59:05] sub it would need to >> willingly relinquishes financial control >> willingly relinquishes financial control often without any sexual contact often without any sexual contact sometimes through online platforms.

[2:59:25] will often be insulted using terms like tribute or be insulted using terms like tribute or draining.

[2:59:41] This is wild. So maybe people like that about Apple. Avon Fox's line is, "How are you so online and yet often so not?" Why would

[2:59:53] possibly come across this? >> I didn't go looking for this. >> He's already got a wife does all his taxes and handles all his money. sure of me? You think I of all people would be into something like that? Are

[3:00:07] you [laughter] kidding me? >> Here's all my money that you won't >> Here's all my money that you won't spend. >> as far away from me as possible. >> I could see I could see you finding your

[3:00:21] way through a Wikipedia wormhole of like weird kinks or something. I could see >> If you're looking at like if you you know those like political spectrum >> If there's like my interests and this were like

[3:00:34] >> opposite. >> 100%. This is so bizarre to me. Like I could like I I think I've had I think I've had a pretty clear stance that like sex work is work and I'm not like as long as everyone's adult and consenting

[3:00:49] and whatever. I I think you know sex acts. I'm shopping which is also work. >> They just keep the stuff. >> Okay. Whatever works for your

[3:01:02] relationship. You know what? I I'm not going to I'm not going to judge. I keep your nose out of mine. Everything's good. Everything's chill. But this is >> I'm going to try to not yuck your yum, but I'm definitely going to go h

[3:01:17] >> Yeah. Okay, let's Yeah, like >> like like I could I narrow my eyes >> like like I could I narrow my eyes enough to express my eye narrowness for >> Like it's like it's like if you're going

[3:01:30] to if you're going to >> if you're going to hire a sex worker, like it's right in the name, is it? >> Yeah. You're missing part. You might as well at least get laid. [laughter]

[3:01:43] >> But then it would be a glucose guardian situation. What the hell's a glucose guardian? >> Genderneutral term for sugar daddy.

[3:01:55] >> No, [clears throat] it's current. It's current year. We >> No. No, I did not. >> Oh my god. [laughter]

[3:02:11] It's current year. You got to be gender neutral. Come on. It's fine. [laughter] Oh, them babies got to, you know, have love, too.

[3:02:32] >> I mean, I >> I'm going to turn into a Minecraft >> I'm going to turn into a Minecraft villager. Um,

[3:02:44] >> I I actually [laughter] had a follow-up question about SAS drives. here. >> I have [laughter] a I have like a bucket of SAS interposers at home. Um, is that also something that

[3:02:59] could be experimented with? >> This is you personally? >> Yeah, me personally. cuz I bought one of those Facebook servers, I think, or something like that. So, I've got like what the hell was it called? I can't

[3:03:11] >> those are those they're port multipliers, right? >> Something like that. It kind of converts SATA drives into SAS >> Oh, >> it might only be one direction. It might

[3:03:25] just be SATA to SAS. >> Oh, yeah, that makes sense. So that would again that would only be if you have SAS HBAS or like a SAS um Jbot or something. >> But but if they were SATA to SAS drives,

[3:03:39] you wanted to like flirt with the idea of SAS drives? >> I I just would I wouldn't flirt with SAS drives. I just I I don't I don't care about them for home NAS use. >> What What now? [laughter]

[3:03:59] [laughter] will watch when they see their parents' be fine. >> Talk about glucose guardians and finn do. [laughter] Hey, it's after dark.

[3:04:24] I'm sorry. Oh, >> this is also the first inaugural stream on LMG clips. >> Yeah, I forgot [laughter] about that. >> We never even mentioned that. We're

[3:04:36] we're migrating the WAN show to the LMG clips channel over the next little while. So, we're going to be simultaneously streaming on both channels for some amount of time and then eventually it's going to go LMG

[3:04:49] clips exclusive um as we migrate it off of the uh the >> I've been hanging out with them. They're super chill. watching over there. >> Yeah, they're really cool.

[3:05:03] >> Yeah. So, you're you're going to want to get in the habit of watching over on LMG get in the habit of watching over on LMG clips sometime over the next little bit. Yes, LMG clips will be rebranded. Kevin says, "Oh, please no." What? What

[3:05:15] watching on float plane, Kevin. It's not going to [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah. Sorry, just to clarify, this only affects YouTube viewers. Yes. Yes. Float plane forever. Relax, everyone.

[3:05:29] [gasps] Um, okay. Well, my brain hurts. Um, >> Sure. Hey, >> calm. Damn it. Thanks for that.

[3:05:45] >> I was just letting a beat play out there. >> Greetings all. Is there any update on the light switches in Lionus' home? Did they get all of the kinks uh worked out yet?

[3:05:58] the new ones are here. I haven't installed them yet. I will, but there's just a lot of stuff going on. Yes, this is an adequate media thing, David. Easy. Uh, we need to we need to get the show off of an LMG owned channel and migrate

[3:06:15] a channel that's like kind of worthless right now to um adequate media >> send me your pees. >> I don't think it can be because you get

[3:06:31] the product. >> Yeah. If if you bought it and for some would make sense. >> What if we just sent them nothing? >> Yeah. Can they just Can they just like buy me screwdrivers?

[3:06:44] >> What do I have to do? >> I think nothing in this scenario. >> I don't know though. >> What if I want to do really weird stuff with it? >> Then I think you probably get more

[3:06:58] >> We'll see you next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. same bad channel. No. Bye.