New X-Men Casting Rumors Explained: These Can't Be Real, Right?

[00:33] your host, Ryan Ery. Hope all uh sorry we were late like announcing the stream today. I forget that sometimes. But today we were kind of going back and about because there's two big news items. There's the Paramount uh buyout

[00:46] that's really just lawsuits and it's stalled. There's not much to talk about there. The future of the DCU, if you have any live stream topics you want to about, we have to go through this. The really big X-Men casting rumors that are

[00:59] flooding the internet right now. We've got Adam Driver being floated as Magneto. We've got Patrick Wilson being floated for Professor Xavier. We got leaking out. I think what's going to happen is we're going to get the

[01:14] Comic- Con in about a week and it's going to be the massive panel. I It panel. Who knows? But we are going to talk about this with some friends of mine. First up, you know him as the guy who is always on hold, Mr. Alex. What's

[01:28] >> Hey, um uh I lost the audio right at the beginning there, but I'm on hold with my agent right now. I I can't talk about this. I'm NDA, but I had a pretty good audition yesterday for a certain Master

[01:42] of Magnetism, if you will, for the MCU reboot. I'm waiting to hear. I'm feeling happens. >> Interesting. Do you think it is even term that these days. >> Yeah, that's definitely my concern while

[01:56] I'm on hold with my agent, Ryan, is whether it's called a reboot or not. whether it's called a reboot or not. >> But I gota I'm just texting people to see. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. No, no, no. I was just making jokes. I'm just make

[02:08] >> Great jokes they were. Great jokes they were. I was distracted by this. I definitely um jokes the whole time. I know other people were as well.

[02:21] one person shy today and I'm trying to see if we got a replacement or if he's But uh that doesn't take away from the opinions of our next friend we have who's trapped in our TV and doesn't know it. So please don't tell him. Mr. Colton

[02:35] Augvern. What's up, Colton? >> I I lost audio as well there for a jokes, Alex. I I thought they were fantastic. >> Ryan's just a dick. I don't know what that was [laughter] about.

[02:47] either, >> Ryan. That's what we should do. >> No. Okay. So, let's get into the reboot conversation right now. >> Wait, Ryan, if if I could >> Yeah. Oh, please.

[03:04] hosting. I'm pretending that you're funny. There's so much going on at the same time for me to try to handle. >> I think I threw us all off the screen >> Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. So, let us know in the super chats uh if you want

[03:18] but not required or in the regular chat what you think about some of these casting rumors as we go through. So, I guess let's just start with the big one, guys. We've got um Adam Driver. Now, Adam Driver was apparently being floated

[03:31] at one point um for Reed Richards. They were looking at names like Reed Richards and Margot Robbie uh Reed Richards with for Adam Driver, Marggo Robbie for Sue cast was just too expensive. I think they would have been like a hundred

[03:45] million dollars before they even started filming. So, they went another way. Uh but now we first, you know, Jason Issacs has always been the big fan cast for this. He's getting up there, though. this would be another older Magneto,

[03:58] whereas Adam Driver is a fairly young Spry individual. So, first of all, think this is true, what do you think about those two casting rumors? >> I just want the scene where he gets told, "Ben, you're you're a Magneto." I

[04:14] I hope that's how they do it. [laughter] I think he'd be great. I I I personally am still kind of pulling for Fast Bender, but I will admit when I saw this news like Adam Driver is Magneto, I got way more excited about

[04:29] just the the newness of that, the freshness of it than I ever felt about bringing Fast Bender back. So, I whoever they pick, I I'm kind of more on the side of maybe it would be a good idea to just do full-blown recast, not dip back

[04:42] into that uh Fox era. Well, but yeah, I think Adam Driver would be fantastic. Mitter thing, but first, Alex, what do you think? Adam Driver is of course a fantastic

[04:56] actor and I'll watch him in absolutely anything, but hearing this rumor gave me the same reaction when the rumor of him playing Mr. Fantastic came out, which >> Yeah. >> And you know, it all depends on what the

[05:10] is. I don't think they're going to go for like an Ian Mckllen World War II Holocaust origin story or the same thing for Michael Fbender. They're almost some way. So, I don't know what that necessarily means for what Magneto is,

[05:27] what does he stand for, etc. And the bigger thing is personally I'd almost here on the show before. I'd almost want them to get away from Magneto and Professor X just because that is so part

[05:42] of every single other movie. It has this gravity similar with Wolverine. Don't do characters are. Figure out how they work. But I don't think I'm going to get my wish there. So as is, I think he's fine. I'm just sort of in wait and see

[05:58] out. >> Well, let's Okay, let's talk about the age. First, I got a question for you, Alex. In the comic books, right, whenever Magneto was first introduced, it was less than 20 years after World

[06:11] War II. And obviously, it wasn't until the 70s, I think, when Chris Claremont gave him his Awitz tattoo and he gave him as that as part of his origin story. And then it seems like, you know, we saw this in the X-Men movies where I guess

[06:24] the Ian Mckllen could theoretically be old enough to have been that age, but then by the time we got to X-Men Dark Phoenix and Michael Fast Bender still looks like Michael Fast Bender. >> And in the comics, it's now 80 years

[06:36] since the Holocaust occurred. Have they done any recconing in the comics to explain maybe it was a different genocide or um why he hasn't aged? specifically with Magneto. Not to get too in the weeds about it because I'm

[06:52] forgetting what the exact timeline is. But unlike DC that technically moves forward in time and allows characters to age, even though some of them stay exactly the same aged all the time, and that's just kind of what comics are.

[07:06] >> Marvel is supposed to be God, I don't think it's like four years of real time as every year. I think it's even more than that, but it's basically like Peter Parker is still in his 20s or 30s at this point. Even though he's been around

[07:20] since the 1960s, and it's the same with most of these characters. through Vietnam protesters on the college green, he is still Yeah. with it and deal with it. There are things that slide forward like recently

[07:35] they changed Captain America so that he was unfrozen right after God I'm going to mess this up but I think the Iraq war in the 2000s and they did that yeah they

[07:47] did that to introduce a Captain America who was active in that particular war that he has to deal with and struggle with the story line's interesting um so they do sliding things sometimes in Marvel comics but Magneto is one of

[08:01] those ones because he's so intrinsically tied to the Holocaust that they've kind of avoided it. You know, they have not changed it to another genocide or >> And unless they cast an actor in their 90s, they have to either say, no, more

[08:15] than 90s at this point. They have to either say because of his powers, he ages slower, which is a different character, frankly. Like somebody who if doesn't age and has been around forever, he's an external. He's not Magneto

[08:29] anymore. But or they have to just say like and unfortunately this is true. There have been many you know genocides uh throughout human history that maybe like that that's more recent in the 1990s he could have been a product of

[08:43] that. Obviously it pales in comparison to World War II but I don't see what the acknowledge it but I feel like the MCU can't get away with that. What do you >> I mean there's several ways to do it. Like I I've always said, if you go the

[08:57] fast bender route and you just have him continue playing the character for however long, you don't really have to address that issue. I I think it would be just kind of like in the comics like it's Yeah, he he was in the it happened,

[09:09] but I know it doesn't line up right when you bring in a brand new actor to do it. I used to really like the argument of casting a black actor to play Magneto. >> I'm not as much on that now because despite the whole Holocaust situation

[09:25] and how that messes with, you know, what age you can make him. I do think Magneto being Jewish is a really important part of his character. So, I do think they need to keep that. And I think you can keep that. And you could even write in

[09:40] like a, you know, something horrible like a a hate group could have done something horrible to him in his childhood for the fact that he was Jewish and that would still maintain that he's Jewish. He was persecuted

[09:52] against for being Jewish >> and maybe his father was a Holocaust could be a way to tackle it. >> Yeah, >> you could also maybe make it a little more MCU. I mean, look, there's certain

[10:05] things in the MCU. We know that Baron Zemo is a Baron. Um, we've talked about how that could relate to Dr. Doom in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but also Sokovia is a country that could have had a history of um, you know, pilgrims or

[10:19] you know, we've seen all these different military factions take over the country Pietro and they could be his biological children if they wanted to go that route as well. Well, and you know, I've I'm not sure if I need to say this word if

[10:32] it'll throw our stream off, but uh Nazi uh they they are great villains. I think especially in superhero films. And I know that's like a a heavy topic, but I I think they make for the best villains because we can all I hope agree that

[10:47] >> I think it'd be kind of cool if like we get that World War II movie I wanted with like Steve Rogers and Wolverine. What if we met like the ancestors of uh

[10:59] Eric and like we see like >> you know his his dad or his mother as a child and you know getting beat up by some you know general or whatever and then in the future we have that same general maybe he's connected to Red

[11:12] Skull or something. You could have a lot of fun there and have that tie in with like a wider story. >> Yeah. Maybe he even the the the officer tells his father some expression like the brave are the first to die like from

[11:25] say that because his dad would have passed that on to him or something. Sorry, Alex. >> No, it's just it's such a tricky topic. I'm always very sensitive to these sort of things when I see them on screen. And

[11:38] there's a level of like I think you were getting at Cult. You take away the Holocaust, you take away an intrinsic part of Magneto's Jewish history on >> subbing in something else like I totally understand the idea, but subbing in

[11:51] something else like, oh, it was this madeup pgram in Skokovia >> feels from that perspective like it's diminishing it a little bit. Not saying you're diminishing it. I'm saying if they did that, that's potentially would

[12:03] be my reaction watching that sort of thing on screen. same as like there's anti-semitism going on right now all over the country constantly and it's all over the country constantly and it's awful. But having him be at a temple

[12:18] that was vandalized or something like that. It is a different level of him being like, "Oh man, the temple was vandalized and my grandfather was in the Holocaust and now I'm going to become a mutant vengeance." Yeah.

[12:33] >> Yeah. Exactly. like it's a little bit too much versus I really, you know, Brian Singer, terrible person, but you really can't get better than that first can't get better than that first scene in X-Men that we watched a couple of

[12:46] >> absolutely >> seeing that happen for the first time and making that connection or following Fast Bender as he goes Nazi hunting. It gives that very direct, very specific connection there. Can I ask and I I'm

[13:01] I'm being ser not trying to be funny or anything like would it be inappropriate like if they did a story like would this like fictionalize it too much if they did a story where I don't know they they play with time travel a lot with

[13:14] reminded of that. What's that show on Netflix with the superhero kids? Um >> [ __ ] uh Umbrella Academy where they get trapped in the past and stuff. Would you interesting about something happening where Magneto is a present day Magneto

[13:33] who gets transported to the past and does have to live through that as a as a Jewish man? Would or or would that be just a little too much like not not taking it serious enough? >> Um I [snorts] don't know. I mean there's

[13:47] everything but I do my immediate worry with that sort of thing is like wow being Jewish Magneto [laughter] you know >> going forward. Uh so I don't know but they could work it.

[14:01] this conversation we're having it's definitely something they're going to have to figure out like and dance around and it's definitely a problem. My guess, >> my guess would be is they that Magneto will make references to suffering and

[14:14] seeing his people and his family killed and we will never find out specifically be one of these things like Tom Holland's origin in the MCU where it's deliberately kept vague. We don't know where the spider was or what happened to

[14:28] Uncle Ben and it's not really important that we know because we kind of it's at this point Magneto has become almost a mythological figure in this where the tale has been told and retold. so many times it is just the character and I

[14:41] don't know if it actually needs the spec specificity whatever if it needs to be specificity like you that's what I said >> anyways I don't think it needs to necessarily be so literal that it's tied

[14:55] to that and we need that story I mean after all we've gotten that story like you said um elaborated on in first class too so maybe we don't need to hear it >> I was just going to say I I think it's important that they don't swap out with

[15:08] something else. I I used to think that maybe, you know, that unfortunately so throughout, you know, the past decades. do think it's really important that they

[15:20] maintain that yes, he is a a Jewish man. I think that's really important part of >> and there's even push back that he's once again not being played by a Jewish our other guest. He was a little bit late to the party. We got Doug's

[15:32] attorney, Mike Misella. What's up, Mike? >> Hey guys, what's going on? Sorry about that, Ryan. I just got back from the pound. I had to go and uh bail out some other famous clients of mine. Scooby-Doo, Scrappy Doo,

[15:44] >> Oh, don't tell me Marmaduke got up to his old tricks again. He's always into something on a very strict probation period right He can't afford it. >> Gotcha. What we're talking about right

[15:58] now is this rumor about Adam Driver playing Magneto. This is from My Time to Shine. Hello. Uh and then the other rumor that Patrick Wilson might be second. So, the other rumor here with Magdino, Jason Isaac's name has been

[16:10] floated a lot. He's 63 years old, also not old enough to be a Holocaust survivor, but I just want to hear everybody's opinion on these two guys would bring to the role. Let's start with Adam Driver. Age aside, u you know,

[16:24] likes doing big genre things because he Ben Solo with Steven Soderberg. So, I'm him and his role, what he would bring into it. Mike, you want to go first?

[16:36] >> Yeah, sure. Um, I think that he would be fantastic in this role. I don't really mind if there is, you know, whether they go with like a younger version of Charles and Magneto or if they go with an older version. But I would like for

[16:51] both of them to be around the same age, if that makes sense. just so that they have that >> uh brotherhood camaraderie and we really get to see the the differences between the two of them being contributed to

[17:04] something more like life experience rather than uh just their age and their generation that they come from. Um so yeah, I' I'd be cool with seeing a younger version of these characters, but I do think that they need to be the same

[17:17] >> They they definitely need to be contemporaries. Yeah, I agree. contemporaries. Yeah, I agree. My con, not concern, but my view of Adam Driver is that he is always playing a pissy boy in his roles for the most

[17:32] part, which is kind of why I didn't see him as Reed Richards either. And I don't personally see Magneto that way. Like he is imposing, he is commanding, he's a leader of groups and men and comes before the entire world. And you believe

[17:45] like he's going to magnetically flip the polls. And Adam Driver played a great villain. Kylo Ren is awesome. He does a fantastic job. But like the underlying not up to this role and I got to prove

[18:00] myself. So I don't know. He could he's an actor. He could play different parts. He could do different roles. But just having seen him at a lot of stuff, there always does seem to be that underlying level of uncertainty there that I don't

[18:14] get from Magneto because he's always certain of everything as the right path. It does feel like a typ cast. >> He Yeah, I think he's definitely typ also like that's not who he is. I He's an actor like you just said.

[18:28] >> I 100% think he could just bring the commanding presence. I don't know if he Wilson's getting floated around for Xavier, which we'll talk about in a second. He's 53 years old. So, if Patrick Wilson is Xavier, my best guess

[18:41] is I mean, and Jason Issacs is an amazing actor. He's somebody who, you Patriot and we kind of just remember him as the villain in that and then he was obviously Lucius Malfoy and really created the character of Lucius Malfoy

[18:54] "No, no, he should dress like it's the 17th century and have a cane and he added all these interesting details to him." But then you see him play a guy who in in White Lotus season 3 who walks in with that kind of swagger but very

[19:07] quickly shows that he can play other roles. He would be an amazing Magneto. He's just again I kind of feel like >> they want to go in the at least people in their 50s but again he's pretty great though but realistically if you're

[19:19] looking at your franchise in 20ear spans which I think they tend to do. too old. And what what's the actor's name for Xavier? Patrick Wilson. >> Patrick Wilson. Yeah. I got his >> He's in the Conjuring movies, right? I I

[19:33] really really like him as an actor. Like I think he is like really underappreciated as an actor. I would hate him as Professor X. I I I don't see that at all personally.

[19:45] >> Say say more about that. >> I I think he'd be a better Magneto almost. Didn't he also play uh >> He would He was ocean master in the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The best thing they could do is opening shot of the

[19:58] X-Men movie. It just continues from the last shot of Aquaman and the Last Kingdom where he's eating that sandwich and he's like, "Huh, okay." Takes another bite and then we just kind of go from there. Also, does anybody else

[20:10] >> It's a big issue to me that Patrick Wilson has hair. Like, if you want somebody for Professor X, they need to be bald. Patrick Stewart had that >> You sound like Larry David right now. >> You know, you can't you can't hire a

[20:25] >> It's [laughter] not fair OF THE BALD COMMUNITY. >> Larry Larry David is Patrick stolen bald. I don't know. >> Yeah. And then you honestly Yeah. >> You have the not real balds, the ones

[20:37] when he hired that chef and then he found out he was a fake bald. Yeah. >> No, Makavoy actually lost his hair because of Apocalypse. I believe that happened in real life universe >> actually on set.

[20:50] >> Do you know there's a weird there's an a two-parter of X-Men the animated series Worth and it's where like a time traveler from the future goes back in time and kills Xavier. It's set up like the first season of X-Men 97 season.

[21:02] Xavier's [laughter] in college he's already bald and that in college he's already bald and that always really bothered me was like put blonde hair on him. [laughter] >> Had a rough life.

[21:15] >> I I give me a few years maybe I could play Xavier. Maybe >> Oh, I could. Yeah. No, no, no. I could stop using Keeps and everything else I too. >> And I swear that's not an ad for Keeps.

[21:27] so there's other things, too. Like Patrick Wilson does have that attitude to him, but I feel like when X-Men was first like there were rumors of a movie in the late 90s, I remember Wizard magazine came out that had the Dreamcast

[21:41] over skeptical Marvel fans who have been burned by Captain America movies and bad TV shows. You needed you had to have Patrick Stewart as Xavier is the one the fan community go, "Yep, this is it. This is for real this time." And I don't

[21:56] feel like there's any actor bald or otherwise who people are universally >> Is it a Patrick >> or any of them? [laughter] >> Maybe. Maybe.

[22:08] >> Let me see. Where's Patrick? We need >> like a Chris. Like a Chris in the in Winterfell kind of thing. >> I can't think of any other actors named Patrick now. That was >> Schwarzenegger. Is that his name?

[22:21] Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, he's a little great in the MCU though. He was great as Golden Boy in GenV. >> I guarantee he might even be on this list. So, any other thoughts on Xavier

[22:33] >> Neil Patrick Harris. >> Is it Neil Patrick Harris? >> Oh, you said Patrick Harris. I was making sure college like you know him. [laughter] >> No, I said Neil Pat

[22:46] >> and Pat. No, you didn't say Neil. None of us know my guy NPH. Yeah, he's got a real sick spot in his tailgate. >> Yeah. No, wait. Am I crazy here? Let me not hear Colton say Neil? I swear to God, I heard you just say Patrick

[22:59] don't know. >> Okay. All right. Must have cut out. trying to gaslight you. I really I think I was thinking I was wrong. All right. this. So, the other this is coming on the heels of this other tweet from a an

[23:15] normally I don't take like random tweets as gospel, but these are things that I have also seen in other places. So maybe this person just took a bunch of rumors things in this, right? We'll go through this list individually in a second. The

[23:30] for Margot Qual. She initially refused to comment uh to the to commit to the especially in a franchise like Marvel, but she would be pretty great. She's also in her early 30s. I think she's exactly 30. And I hate judging this

[23:46] based on age. I'm only saying that because I think we all agree they want is going to be playing Gan Gray, then they're like looking toward the future. Um Dwayne Johnson was the first choice to play Apocalypse, but he was very

[23:59] would >> hierarchy of power. >> Oh my god, I cannot think of a worse actor to play Apocalypse. Get Javier Bardm to play him, you know. Um >> that's listed. Perhaps he will make a

[24:13] >> that's listed. Perhaps he will make a cameo appearance in Secret Apocalypse. getting a standalone Apocalypse movie where Apocalypse is the hero

[24:26] >> I don't Maybe that's why he would have been soensive because he's got this can't lose a fight. like on the Fast and Furious movies behind the scenes, they were literally counting the punches uh that he and Vin Diesel exchanged to make

[24:40] for some reason these big manly dudes care about that kind of thing. But look go through some of these individually. So, we've got Cyclops. Okay, so Cyclops, I think we're going to find all this out on Saturday and let me know um what you

[24:57] comments. So, here we got Cyclops and Jean. Now, Jack Champion, do you guys No. >> Uh, wasn't he the kid on the bike in

[25:09] >> Uh, wasn't he the kid on the bike in >> in in uh in Endgame? comes back >> and then he's walking around and he's there's a kid on a bike and he just gives him a bad look and rides off.

[25:26] >> Is this kid not spider from? And that was Cyclops. >> And that was on the bike. [laughter] this classic bike. [snorts] >> He plays Spider in um the Avatar movies.

[25:41] He's the white guy with dreadlocks. And then he's also in Scream six, I think. >> Can I say I find that problematic? >> The dreadlocks or that I pointed out >> The white guy with dreadlocks. >> Got it. Um well, I guess that's true.

[25:57] dreadlocks in the movie, but I feel like a white guy with dreadlocks just always deserves that classification. >> You have to always say, "Yeah, the white different type of person. >> For instance, if you're airplane, there

[26:09] talking about how they had to fix the airplane he was on and a white guy with dreadlocks ran out in a jumpsuit. He wanted off the plane. I'm just saying it's a certain stereotype whether it's fair or not. Uh, we've also got here the

[26:22] Rogan Gambit, Margot Qual, who we mentioned earlier, and Montana Jordan. So, Montana Jordan, just a little bit of background on him. Let me get his IMDb pulled up real quick. Montana Jordan has been in not much. Is he young Sheldon?

[26:36] He looks like Young Sheldon. >> No, he's he's his brother. >> Is Montana Jordan related to Dakota Johnson? >> I was going to say he sounds like the Bizarro version of Indiana Jones.

[26:48] Montana Jordan. I think Idaho Smith is also [laughter] in that family, right? >> I don't buy this at all. He's He's a TV actor. I I don't think he has any film exper They're just saying it because he

[27:01] exper They're just saying it because he has an accent in the the uh show, the >> I do like the picture of Margaret Quali you just put up, which looks like her being like, "Who me? What? >> I wouldn't do that."

[27:14] back on >> I look back on I think it is. I look and I go, "Wow, Quinton Tarantino really names that keep getting floated around are X-Men cast members."

[27:28] later on, but I don't think she was on the list you sent out. >> Uh there were those talks about Indie Navaret meeting for something with That seems totally reasonable whether it's for something or not. But I think

[27:45] she would be way better as Rogue than Margaret Quali. >> Yeah. I She just >> has the attitude. I don't know if you great on that as well. Obviously, she's amazing at Obsession.

[27:58] >> But I just feel like she has the right attitude for Rogue, which I know Margot don't know. I >> Yeah. Do you think I was going to ask, when people go Margaret Marggo Quali? >> Yes.

[28:11] actress. I don't know if you guys have seen Maid. Uh it's on Netflix. She's fantastic in that. I'd love her for Rogue, but yeah. Um I always actress. It's what >> I think it's Indie Navarette.

[28:27] >> I think it's Indie Navarette. >> Okay. The obsession Indieet. Uh I do want her to be How old is she? Ryan, do you have that? Cuz I'm coming up in a second. >> She's in her 20s.

[28:40] >> I'm trying to think of who we're talking about from Obsession. Obviously, like a born in 2001, so she's in her 20s. She's about 25. >> Yeah. Yeah. My sister's 25. Yeah, that lines up. Um,

[28:55] sister's born in 2001. >> I just thought you meant cuz she's like, They were in the same class together. So, >> I honestly think your sister should be rogue. I'm just throwing that out there.

[29:07] >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why? Because she sucks the life out of what you're saying about Colton's sister? Colton, [laughter] dumpster behind the store after the after this is over with. Um, what about

[29:22] after this is over with. Um, what about this one? We got Beast, Kitty Pride, and Now, are we familiar with these guys? Charlie Melton as Beast. Yeah, I think actually we've thrown him out there before for a role. Charlie Meltton, just

[29:36] letting everybody look at this. It >> has been known for Go ahead. Is this reports? >> A little bit. A little bit. This is These are basically compiled from different reports.

[29:48] >> She's familiar. Julia is familiar. Who What is she in? She looks really >> Maybe it's this guy's agent who's putting this out. This is the guy from um >> I'll tell you Charles. It's the guy from

[30:01] >> Yes. >> I want the I want the cat from The Long >> I want the I want the cat from The Long Walk to play Hank McCoy. Um, what's it? His dad is a the actor. He passed away. He was in Hunger Games. Um,

[30:16] passed away. He was in Hunger Games. Um, Hoffman. I think he would be a good uh >> I don't want to destroy the whole premise of this uh show or anything, but I agree with the fan casting thing. This all feels like somebody did a Google

[30:30] characters [laughter] look like? >> Like, sure, Charles Melton is white and he has floofy hair like the beast. around, and this isn't just from this tweet of Sydney Sweeney is Emma Frost.

[30:43] This one I think people maybe are making this one up, but it's really just Frost. >> I don't see the connection. right? >> Oh, is it because she's blonde?

[30:55] >> Oh, is it because she's blonde? >> Yeah, it's cuz she's blonde and a lot in >> Yeah. She was in a show called Euphoria and Emma Frost has the ability to cause euphoria in people with her mental powers. Oh,

[31:07] >> not even an ad for jeans and music. >> Guys, can I say jeans? >> Can I admit something? >> I I feel bad about it. >> I thought it I I thought it was about her boobs, but I I guess I was wrong.

[31:20] >> Oh, no. No, no, no. We're not talking about that. No, no, no, no, no, no. even think that. No, no, no. We wouldn't. No. Just so we're clear, >> I think she'd be a good beast. >> I actually a great beast. Cover her up

[31:35] in makeup. That would be the funniest option. Make her marrow. option. Make her marrow. >> She'd be a fantastic Mystique. >> No, seriously, she would be a fantastic Mystique. Mystique's a sensual

[31:52] >> I just think I think I always think of Emma Frost. I have no idea how she how she's a teacher. I always think of her like in her 40s. I've always thought like Genevie O'Reilly is the kind of person who should play Emma Frost

[32:05] the other [ __ ] that she wears. So, I've never I do love her for the MCU and playing Frost. >> She does She doesn't strike me as a Emma

[32:17] >> No, I I think you're way more on track with like a O'Reilly or the an actress. U less I don't know. It just has like a more mature vibe to them.

[32:33] about how they dress. It's about how they carry themselves. You want somebody to walk in a room who you feel like could mentally and verbally spar with Charles Xavier who like basically is the dark half of what a telepath can be.

[32:46] the point, so looking at like the reason I think a lot of these names that are getting floated around in this tweet are probably [ __ ] are because they're random as hell. Like do we really think that this movie is going to feature Mr.

[32:58] Sinister and Apocalypse and Pyro. I think that probably there is a list in Marvel or in a casting agency where they were saying, "Okay, so here's all the type that we're looking for or give us potential names for each and they're not

[33:10] necessarily based on the screenplay that they're working with." However, all talking about, we've even got here we got Iceman, Colossus, and Moira McCagger. [snorts] >> I'm sorry. Kid Carter is on there as Ice

[33:24] Bad because Ice Bad is gay. I'm just throwing that out there. That is 100% >> Alan Richton as Colossus is a terrible idea. I don't you guys saw it, but they had Hunter

[33:36] Schaefer on there as Mystique. And if anything, I think that's probably anything, I think that's probably offensive. Like I don't know like not >> like that just doesn't seem this that 100% screams fan cast to me.

[33:50] >> Yeah. I mean, listen, there's some interesting action actors in here. Like if you go a couple of frames back, Lauren Sai, they had down as Psylock and >> 100% wrong. I don't know if they put Sai as Psylock and that's what's going on

[34:03] descent, so there's a little >> Are we saying this is an AI generated uh this is just like somebody went through >> Now, this one though, >> this one I've heard,

[34:16] >> Wagner Mora, I've heard him as floated for Mr. Sinister before. I think there's a grain of truth in that. And I do think Mr. Sinister is the villain in this movie. >> Hunter Sh great in Euphoria.

[34:28] >> I think she'd be great >> as Mystique or any of the the X-Men >> legit. Not to swap out Euphoria actresses, but she would be better as White Queen than Sydney Sweetie. Like she would be very good Frost.

[34:44] >> Yeah. And that would make sense. I my point was I I think there is maybe and and people can look this up to see if there is actually a history of this. I think there's a history of like Hollywood casting uh trans actors to

[34:57] play roles where like the character is uh like deceitful or like mischievous and like Mystique like the whole conceit of Mystique is that she like changes her

[35:09] appearance to blend in and to pretend to be other people and in the wrong hands like casting a trans actress in that role can be seen as like kind of leaning into those stereotypes. And I think Hunter Schaefer recently put out a

[35:24] didn't put out a statement saying, "I don't want to play Mystique," but she want to play trans characters anymore. I just want to play like >> women characters that any woman actress can play." Um, I I think it would

[35:37] probably be a bad look and have kind of a a weird like secondary message for them to cast Hunter Schaer as Mystique. But Caster is

[35:49] somebody else. Can I go back to something? Okay, so there's all the cast members. I think we all agree that some of these are maybe Adam Driver thing is a substantial rumor that's been reported by Deadline, I

[36:02] Wilson's been out there for a while. The city sweetie thing has been out there Sinister. The rest of them are like, "Okay, maybe this is pulled off a list. Maybe it's just fan casting." However, it does bring up interesting questions

[36:14] about So we're obviously not going to use all these people. We're not going to use all of these villains. Maybe this is them crafting a whole big story, but it does go, okay, look, we've had 20 almost 30 years of X-Men movies. What the hell

[36:28] Like, what comics are they going to pull from? Because they're obviously not name we didn't see in there at all is Wolverine. So, if they're not going to it the Wolverine show every time, if it's hopefully not going to be Xavier

[36:42] and Magneto, what do you guys want to see as fans of the movies and the comics from this and say, "Yep, that's your that's the kind of direction I would >> You know, we've talked about this before, but I think

[36:59] it depending on how much of a reboot, softer or otherwise, they're doing after Secret Wars. They've got a real opportunity to look at X-Men, which has been this very malleable metaphor throughout its entire history, and say,

[37:13] "What does X-Men mean today? what does XBED mean in I was going to say 2026 but more likely like 2028 prognosticating ahead and taking that young cast coming based on the comics that is a fresh story line because there are so many

[37:28] things you can do with the X-Men we talked about is it young people on the run being chased by damage control or a villain or something like that some sort of youth rebellion thing that is a little close to what Valiian comics has

[37:42] done with Harbinger in the past They had a reboot in 2015 where >> Harbers kind of like the X-Men of the Valiant universe and they were like on the run. There were evil Harbers which are like evil mutants chasing after

[37:57] them. So this is not necessarily a way of avoiding saying like what comic story line it would pull off of so much as they could do something like they usually do which is something that is very specifically MCU and not based on

[38:12] anything in particular. while pulling on the long history of X-Men to pick and choose where they want. >> Guys, what do you think? >> Guys, what do you think? >> I don't know. I'm I want the the school.

[38:25] I want the, you know, the X-Mansion. I I want Xavier and eventually Magneto. I I feel like we never got that really even with the like the kids like in the Fox

[38:38] era of X-Men. We got We got a little bit of it. And um what was what was the one that came after Days of Future Past? Was it Apocalypse? And then they did Dark >> I I like the idea of like having three films with with this young cast as

[38:54] actual students and doing like teenager things and like making teenager mistakes and having teenager, you know, being naive. I want all of that. I feel like we never I feel like we got a bunch of people in their mid30s for the Fox era

[39:09] really answers your question. >> I mean up until up until the second that. Um, let me throw this. Oh, Mike, do you want to chime in first? do you want to chime in first? >> Um, yeah. I mean, I think that I would

[39:24] it be at the school. I don't want them to do a like, you know, X-Men on the street type of thing or this ragtag group that finds each other. Like, I still think it needs to be centered around the institution. Um, but yeah, I

[39:39] mean, I'd like to see them be coming into their own. I don't think you need to do a complete origin story like X-Men First Class, like let the school be established, introduce a couple of new characters that are joining the school

[39:52] while some are already there. Um, and how they integrate and how they come together to become the X-Men. Maybe um I I think maybe that was like an issue like they were like, "Okay, well, we're going to put together the X-Men and then

[40:06] team. Let's open the school as a new for this team." And I'd like to see the inverse of that. Maybe Charles is running this school to truly just protect these kids and keep them away

[40:19] from any type of danger. But as danger continues to come to his doorstep, it's about him struggling with the decision of, "Okay, I'm going to turn these kids can protect themselves." >> See, that's where I think I go a lot

[40:33] more along the lines of what Alex just said. I favor that option because you things in two different ways. One is let's look at the the character from a already established, like Black Panther, right? He's already the Black Panther

[40:47] when we meet him. He just has life-changing circumstances. Or you have things like Tom Holland Spider-Man where for the first time they said, "Oh, actually, let's explore the high school. Let's look back then." And we don't ever

[41:00] really see him in classic Spider-Man situations until like the last movie And that's where Brand New Day is going to pick up. So, I love the idea of

[41:12] this in the other movies like X-Men Origins. We're seeing the kids like kidnapped by other people." Um, I love the idea of showing them aimless first, of showing that process of recruiting them because then we understand the

[41:27] stakes later on at the school. However, I think you're 100% right, Colton. The idea of like really leaning into this as a school, and I would go toward the Grant Morrison run, not necessarily for the comics, but or for the the

[41:40] characters, but for the comics, that did a great job of saying, "Here's the core X-Men. They're badasses, but here's all the kids. So what are all the problems kind of attitudes that teenagers have and I think Mike's dead on that if you

[41:53] start with them on the run and then so of course Xavier's going to go well yeah fight and maybe he doesn't want to send them out initially but he has to. >> I would have liked if because like we're getting Sadi Sink very likely as Gan

[42:06] Gray. I I think it would have been cool like introduce her in Spider-Man, like introduce her in Spider-Man, introduce Storm in Black Panther 3, introduce these different mutant characters in um like the first phase of

[42:19] the mutant saga and then have that lead up to an X-Men film, but it sounds like the X-Men film is going to be starting filming next month. It's going to be one of the first films that comes out after Secret Wars. Unless I mean they haven't

[42:34] given it a title. So maybe it's not a quote unquote like X-Men movie. Maybe it's a mutants movie or something that it the school's not yet formed and the and all that because I like the on the run idea too. I just thought with them

[42:50] announcing we're doing an X-Men movie that kind of took it off the table. >> Alex is an XSSE about that uh the comic book or NYX. It's about >> Oh, yeah. That I was actually gonna throw out NYX as a possibility here, a

[43:03] different way they could do this. The short version of NYX is that after a bunch of things happen, there's a mutant town in New York City in Manhattan. It's mutants. >> Uh, and X23 was Yes.

[43:19] >> Uh, the feast of Jen Janeiro, the feast of San Magneto. That That's what I'm going for that they have there. Got it. >> This is very New York specific in any >> No, I I got it. I got it. >> In any case, it's a mutant village. They

[43:32] actually give people a school thing, but what I was thinking about while you guys were talking about it is like, what does a school mean today versus when the XBed were established? And when they were

[43:46] like, let's send them to a preparatory school upstate. >> Yeah. A boarding school. Right. >> Exactly. Now, it might be something more uh you know, a high school in New York or it could be more like NYU if they

[44:00] something like that. >> Just imagining Professor Xavier's online high school. >> You can get your degree today and learn how to control your lava powers at the same time, [laughter] all

[44:14] from the comfort of your own home. >> I kind of feel like there's a lot Sorry, second. I feel like in in the X-Men movies, right? So, we first meet the and then it's like welcome to Mutant High, right? They're all ready doing

[44:26] it's all the trains left the station. We're all just hopping on board. And like an indication. We always joined after the fact, you know, we saw like didn't exist in the next movie in Days of Future Past. And then there's

[44:40] always kind of jumping in between. I would love to see the slow buildup of after Secret Wars, it's basically the MCU, but there's a few differences. secret invasion didn't happen, whatever. And then we see the first movie is, oh

[44:55] movie, maybe there's things where like mutant pop culture has become a thing. Like there's a a a fa a mutant fashion designer in the Grant Morrison books And it's like a big >> Jumbo Carnation. Thank you. And it's a

[45:11] they're like kill Jumbo. And we've seen that happen with political figures and real life, you know, like I think there's a lot of opportunity there to we're going through and to see it slowly evolve. Sorry, Colton. Go ahead. I

[45:25] stepped on you. >> Well, no, I I think there's a fun way to have it really mirror like I don't know, like black culture and how that, you know, was incorporated, you know, in in like the 60s and stuff and gay culture

[45:38] own culture. They had their own thing. They had their, you know, their places things, but then, you know, that was also like a place that they could be like kind of >> you said do fun things. But no, you're

[45:52] that's the important part. You're putting a target on your back forums, hate groups, etc. >> And I also like the idea of you were saying how Xavier school is kind of viewed as like a prep school. And I like

[46:07] how I think they even touched on this a little bit in X2 with Iceman's parents. Um, and coincidentally it being with Iceman who's a gay character. It it feels like they thought they were sending him to like a conversion camp

[46:22] type thing to take care of his mutant problem, but really that that's not what and all that. So, I think there's a cool angle to do that. And I think there's maybe market his school as a bit of like a military school where it's like, "Oh,

[46:37] my kid has an issue." >> Well, but I think that'd be a good way >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Probably do need to get out of the house because their parents don't understand what they're going through. Maybe they

[46:50] could become a danger to society if not properly trained by someone who understands a mutation and all that. There's another aspect of this we're not the X-Men are also just superheroes. Like there are there are times when it's

[47:04] feared where they just get to save the world and do superhero stuff. So I wonder if there's an angle there where that's why Charles says we have to form the X-Men. It's not just to go deal with evil mutants. It's also because if we

[47:17] are going to be accepted, we need to be seen using our powers to help everyone >> Let me let me throw a pitch at you guys. Uh, I really like that idea, Colton. But I'm sort of enamored of the idea of them being at the MCU's version of NYU, which

[47:32] I assume would be Empire State University. First of all, if Satie Sik is Gay, she's already in New York. So, they could just be like whatever she is at the end brand new day, they send to her to a place like an NYU, like ESU or

[47:46] whatever where she enrolls. What if instead of it being a whole school, what if Professor X and Magneto are professors at this university and the professors at this university and the X-Men are essentially like a pride

[47:59] group? Like it's a mutant pride group and that's how they get together under the toutelage. Their faculty advisor is Professor X. they can go out and be like, "What do we do? How do we show that mutants are cool

[48:12] and out and proud?" And they end up doing potentially superhero stuff. Magneto preaches an alternate philosophy, wants to take them in another direction. I don't know. I also I love superpowered high school stuff.

[48:25] salt. >> There is something cool about like the idea of having Magneto and Xavier be like these cool laid-back like English arts professor [laughter] type. >> I definitely can't see Adam Driver

[48:39] yeah, go ahead. >> I I just Yeah, I think that would be neat to have them in that wheelhouse. I guess because about the laid-back professor thing to tie back all the way to the beginning of

[48:52] what we're saying? What if Adam Driver is a professor of Holocaust history >> and that's how you tie it in and that's why he has that connection there. >> And Xavier is like a Holocaust denier. That would be quite [laughter] the mix.

[49:06] That would be quite [laughter] the mix. >> I'm totally on about 911. would have a podcast. Cyclops can't melt steel beams. Okay, that's all I'm saying. [laughter] >> Magneto gets tenure and he just starts

[49:21] switching up in major ways. Let me tell you something about the humans. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> let them try and kick me out of here. I'm not going anywhere. >> Oh, I took that off the rails. I'm

[49:33] >> No, no, no, no, no. You did. No, but that's I guess the thing that we should remember, right? So, I would say the best adaptation of X-Men, and I haven't chats in a second that are talking about I've seen some comments about X-Men

[49:45] is that the show Wolverines the headmaster of the show? when I was a young. I used to watch that on WB every Saturday morning. It was great. And they're in high school, but it's like they're not attending Xavier

[50:00] they go to a public high school. >> So, they have to they have to like and and the Brotherhood of Mutants is also it's like kind of like the Jets and the Sharks in this high school. And then

[50:14] there's a bunch of regular human kids that are like, "I have no idea what your beef is, but figure it out, guys." >> But, okay, that but see, that's awesome. best adaptation we've seen is X-Men the animated series, at least that I have

[50:26] watched because the X-Men movies basically adapted that like they really thing. It's almost the exact same plot structure. Rogue, Jubilee, you could swap these characters out. And I'm looking I love that. I love the idea of

[50:40] get really weird and say, "Well, Magneto ends a nightclub." Because we've already seen the version of it, right? We've already seen like the version of this adapted from the comics and loyalty. I'm

[50:52] different direction as long as they stay true to the characters themselves. So, going to skip ahead and just read my favorite one right here from Arman, two pounds and said, "Even Reddit has better casting than this. Is it

[51:06] [laughter] AI?" It might be and we don't know. It's just like there were some similar to what I've already seen that I think is true from other people. So it's fun to throw these out there. A Kemp gave us five bucks and said I like Adam

[51:20] Driver and we still do not know how these new mutants will be explained. So this Magneto could have experienced a Jewish holocaust. He absolutely could about before you got on. It's why when you joined I was like give us just a

[51:32] second because this is an awkward time to [laughter] bring to do the dog lawyer joke. Yeah. Um I don't know. I kind of just I'll go with what I said earlier. I think they will just keep it. They just won't talk about it. They'll like

[51:45] background and let us kind of aware the osmosis. Colton, what's so damn funny? >> Okay. I can't wait to hear that later. >> That would have been a bad time to do the lawyer joke. I agree. [laughter] >> Yeah. Arman gave us uh has been a member

[52:00] remember that is the membership tier where you get $5 off your u your merch or sorry you get 50% off merch at our $5 tier and says when it comes to X-Men casting I think Nando V movies is pretty much the authority he does direct for

[52:15] direct the movies. Yeah, Nando's always got great suggestions for these. Nameless gave us five bucks and said as awesome as Colonel Tavington who's Jason be as Magneto. What about Tras or Guyrich? I like him better as Guyrich.

[52:30] Assuming that Mr. Charles from Daredevil isn't actually Henry Peter Gyrich. I antagonist or Oh, no wait. Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry. I'm wrong. Sebastian, like Sebastian Shaw. I know it's a little

[52:44] weird to because I'm thinking of him in like the the medieval guard of Lucius Malfoy, but he would be an amazing an amazing Sebastian Shaw, leader of the You don't want to see him fight Kevin Bacon, the MCU Kevin Bacon, and bring

[52:59] >> I do want to see if it's a dance. >> I really I really hated Kevin Bacon in that role. I He was incredibly miscast in that from the from the jump. And I >> Sorry, Alex. Go ahead. >> My stupid jokes.

[53:13] great. And if they do go the whole youth rebellion thing, having him as a villain rebellion thing, having him as a villain of some sort makes a ton of sense. um talking about, but we'll see. Do >> you guys think I mean Mr. Sinister is

[53:27] there's kind of not a doubt in my mind at this point. That's the mo the mo of reliable casting rumor I have heard was the Mr. Sedister one. >> You know who'd be and not to stay in the Star Wars pulling from Star Wars, but

[53:41] you know who would be a good Professor X to Adam Driver's Magneto is Boyyga. I think he'd be an interesting Professor Xavier. little young, but yeah, I like >> I want to see him in anything. He hasn't done much since Star Wars. I don't know

[53:55] >> he's always fantastic. Uh, Vulcanos gave us five bucks and said, "I could see Cable going back in time to get Ma Fast Bender's Magneto and bringing him to our don't think to what we were saying earlier, I don't think that they'll use

[54:07] time travel or anything to explain why Adam Driver is from the 1940s because then it's also a he's from the 1940s and it's that whole fish out of water and man out of time storyline. I do think the conversation of a why not fast

[54:21] were advocating for that. I just always think like I think they just want to want to draw a clean line and it raises a lot of questions if Fast Benders in the movie. I [clears throat] do wish he got he deserved a better final movie

[54:36] >> Yeah. Not not to harp on my terrible theory, I guess, but that in Umbrella Academy there is a character who he's a present day, but he gets trapped for

[54:50] becomes like a he fights in World War II, right? And he has like severe PTSD from that when he gets back, >> I think. Maybe or Vietnam. Yeah, that's maybe something you could do there. As far as Fastpender goes, I always just

[55:03] far as Fastpender goes, I always just thought if you're bringing Ian Mckllen back to play Magneto for Doomsday and then I think he probably dies or something in Doomsday at fighting uh Doom and then like you do Secret Wars

[55:16] and then like if the universe gets reset. I've always thought that was kind of a fun way that you could kind of shoehorn Fast Bender back in there. >> But the more we talk about just, you know, having an Adam Driver or whoever,

[55:29] I I'm kind of off of that now. I I think you're right that you you do just you need some new blood in there to really, you know, make it because if you bring in the same actress, then it doesn't feel like anything new. So, I I I do

[55:41] cast. >> Uh we got another great suggestion there from Extinguisher gave us 10 two bucks and said Patrick Warbertton as Professor trying to think of Patrick actors. >> I think Patrick from

[55:55] >> I think Patrick from >> I think Patrick Star would be amazing. >> I think Patrick Star would be amazing. Mayonnaise a mutant power. [laughter] I'm sorry for professor, Mr. Sinister.

[56:09] >> I need the helmet. The helmet for Cerebro. Cerebro's helmet. [laughter] >> Does anybody else Anybody else want to drop a Spongebob impersonation? Anybody fine. >> Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Sorry. I It was so

[56:24] >> I mean, he already plays Joe on Family Guy. has two characters in a wheelchair. He's got the experience. He can Xavier. Yeah. ahead. >> He'd be a good um Sinister, Mr.

[56:37] Sinister. Patrick Warren. >> I just I just think of him as the keep going back to the tick and Brock Samson. I can't really picture that guy >> Uh, Baby Bird gave us 10 bucks and said, "I don't know if you talked about this

[56:51] bit, but I asked this question. What would a younger Magneto's trauma be to discrimination? I feel like that's core to his character. I mean, we did go back and forth on that. >> There's It's tricky. I mean, Alex, you

[57:05] you're talking about a Holocaust survivor, there really is no comparison to it. >> Um, except for other things in that same era. I mean, Mao obviously and Stalin, like they all we haven't seen anything

[57:17] on that scale since. It's tricky. The comics have to deal does work on this weird sliding timeline where the characters sort of age but then the present day kind of zips behind them. Imagine like the world's a

[57:31] timeline and they're here and like the world's going like this as they slowly >> I mean, I think they would have to base it in something real, right? And then they would also have to be like, "Okay, well, if we're doing a more modern uh

[57:44] well-known horrific event that could have an impact on him." Um, you know, I I don't think they're going to be like pick something from the MCU and be like, "Oh, my family was in Skokovia." And it felt like what they did with Baron Zemo

[58:00] villain that we don't really care about. We get that he lost his family and we think they could do a similar thing with Magneto. I think it needs to be grounded in a a real life >> deepens it. It turns it into a rob

[58:16] it can't be some extravagant fictionalized oh sovia this that I I think if if you were to do it and it's not the Holocaust. It has to be his family being profiled for being Jewish and it's like some, you

[58:31] know, hate-mongering bad guy who is solely, you know, like hurting his family or they kill his family or whatever for that fact. I I think that's the only way that you can change it from the Holocaust and still have it somewhat

[58:45] have the same impact. I think when you start making it connected to some like fictional like Skokovia explosion or this or that, I think that does kind of >> I just don't think I just don't think that they will mention it. I just I

[59:00] really don't think they'll ever bring it up. Um I think that when he alludes to what he's talking about and it's better if we just don't ever have to go into the specific questions, which is a shame because honestly like what Chris

[59:14] think pretty sure it was Claremont's idea, not John Burns, but what he did that connection. There's also this beautiful moment with Kitty Pride in the comics where, you know, he attacks Kitty Pride, but then he sees the Star of

[59:27] very openly and proudly Jewish in the comics, which is rare in the day. Like, you just didn't get characters that were like a specific ethnic group at all. monolithic thing we could all relate to, uh, regardless of your, you know,

[59:41] religion or race. So, when that happened, he gave that character a dimension that just echoed and reverberated through the real world. And I think the character might eventually just lose that in the comics. I I don't

[59:53] know because it when it's a hundred years since World War II, it that's when position of myth >> where the same tales have been told over It's the feeling and how it resonates with you and with people in the past.

[1:00:07] I I think there's a way for him to carry that systemic trauma over like even if they have his character not have necessarily been present for it. I think there's a way to do it. But yeah, I mean the further we get, you're right, it

[1:00:21] does just kind of fall into them becoming myths and you you have to begin becoming myths and you you have to begin to, you know, adjust, I guess. wish they'd keep Makavoy and Fast Bender. I wish they had a better movie

[1:00:35] to go out on frankly than Dark Phoenix. That's really a shame. And Elizabeth Poe gave us five euros and said, I want kind of end on this and use this as a more. Uh, sorry. Before I get to that, War of gave us $5 and then chanted

[1:00:48] Colton's name over and over. Said, let's [ __ ] go. Marvel nerds Magneto Screen Elizabeth gave us five euros and said, "I would love to see more stuff from the new X-Men run." And this is the Grant Morrison Frank Quietly run that, you

[1:01:01] Claremont famously said, "I hated everything in it, but I couldn't put it down when he read the books." And it's the same like he really shook up the say favorite from that run because not everybody's read it. But before we sign

[1:01:14] the comments, what have we not seen that you that you really want to see? It villain. I brought up Mr. Sinister earlier. You can steal that one if you villain of the New Mutants trilogy, but they didn't obviously make a second

[1:01:29] movie. I mean, I'd like to see a lot more out of Gambit if we're going to get an actual Gambit. Like, you know, I that's probably be long down the road >> what's going to happen is they're going to have Channing Tatum in Secret Wars

[1:01:42] probably kill him off and then maybe we get a younger version of Gambit at some point later down the road. But he's always just been kind of like a a thing that fans really hoped for. Not just because his power set is awesome and

[1:01:55] really cool visually, but also because he's a really interesting character and he wasn't done justice in X-Men Origins Wolverine. He wasn't really done enough justice in Deadpool in Wolverine. Like, we want more of him. I want to see a

[1:02:10] rogue gambit, you know, romance storyline and all of that. I love Gambit. can't I can't help but wonder if the unique X-Men lineup that we are seeing in Doomsday which is Cyclops, Beast, Magneto, Xavier, Nightcrawler,

[1:02:26] Mystique, and Gambit. >> I mean, that's an interesting lineup and it's missing some notable names like Jean Gray, like Storm. Uh I'm wonder

[1:02:38] >> Yeah. But I what I was going to say is I wonder if that's kind of a sign of we with Sadie Sync Gene Gray. So we don't want to bring them in Doomsday because we're right about to do our X-Men movie. >> So maybe that lineup we're seeing in

[1:02:52] Doomsday is a sign of they don't have immediate plans for Gambit or which was >> So who do you want to see? Like what is it you want to see from this new reboot? >> I hope beyond just doing X-Men movies. I mean I I think we all agree this is

[1:03:06] going to be the Mutant Saga. I want to see some X Force stuff. I want to see maybe some new mutants. Like do do a bunch of different mutant stories. It It doesn't just have to be that that mainline X-Men. So, I I hope that they

[1:03:18] have multiple things going. >> I I I want to see what Deadpool's up to. I I think that it's probably important that you keep that somewhat separate and just kind of let him do his own thing. Uh, I think there's a cool thing that

[1:03:30] they could do with Bullseye with uh like the Task Force X or whatever it's called that Striker ran, you know, like in Origins Wolverine where they have them like in in the in the Amazon and stuff like that. I think that would be cool.

[1:03:43] >> Uh, shelf presence gave us two bucks and said Magneto is an Omega mutant with Alex. Go ahead. >> No, I was just going to say on storylines, the big things that I want to see which I'm less likely to see are

[1:03:55] big swings from the comics. Like I think NYX, like we were talking about earlier, is a really interesting thing that we've never seen before. We've seen them in a adventures. We've seen them saving the world, but we haven't seen a mutant town

[1:04:09] in New York City. And what's that like? Even bigger and expansive. And there's a 0% chance we're going to see it on screen. There was a recent story line uh called the KCOA era where it was all of the X-Men deciding, you know what, we

[1:04:23] are tired of this status quo. There's a lot of other stuff going on behind the scenes that I won't get into. And they all move to KCOA, this living island, and live together and form their own mutant state, which causes severe

[1:04:36] There's ways of looking at it as either an Israel or a Palestine or both metaphor. So, there's a lot of stuff going on there uh beyond like this overarching plot about universal robots invading the Earth, them trying to stop

[1:04:49] invading the Earth, them trying to stop it. But like it's a big wild insane it. But like it's a big wild insane sci-fi swing that we haven't seen in the MCU, we haven't seen in movies before. So that's the sort of thing if they're

[1:05:01] book story line. I love seeing these characters. I will watch every X-Men thing until the day I die. But give me something that really bowls me over, takes a chance, because if you're going to start fresh, if you're really going

[1:05:15] to like wipe the slate clean and start over again, give us something new. Give us something exciting, and give us something that challenges us as viewers. >> I see some space. I'd like to see the she and get into that. We've never seen

[1:05:28] Go ahead, Colton. >> They better keep Daphne Keane as X23. I univer and that, you know, has all these implications, but I think like what they do with Cable, what they do with Bishop in like X-Men stories and like X-Men the

[1:05:43] characters who we just kind of know like, >> yeah, they've experienced time travel. I I think she's a cool character that if universe, I would love to see her stick around and maybe kind of fill those

[1:05:57] Wolverine shoes for a little bit because you're going to have Hugh Jackman show back up for Doomsday and Secret Wars. I think I I think that's obvious. At least he's out. I think I think what they sold him on was three movies where he finally

[1:06:10] >> Yeah. >> Uh where he's like part of this team and he's for sure out >> right yes probably. So I think he's done after Secret Wars but I I hope that doesn't mean that Daffhne Keane has to

[1:06:24] that role for five years before you bring in a new actor to play Wolverine. right. They might bring her back because this alternate present day, there were two characters, I think two, maybe

[1:06:39] three, who survived that offshoot timeline and became characters in the main MCU. There was an evil version of Beast. There was a a clone of Cable like if he hadn't been sent to the future and Alex, there was a third one, right?

[1:06:53] >> Somebody named the two that I was >> Who was? Yeah, there was somebody else they revealed them later, but I didn't actually read the comic, but it doesn't comic book precedent, and I 100% think they could do that. And the other

[1:07:05] Deadpool. >> Oh, you're think you're thinking of Gloopglop, the the mutant from the planet Zorgore, right? >> Oh, >> and let's leave it there. All right,

[1:07:20] >> By the way, Mojo should be the villain of the next Deadpool movie. and own solo film. But that's all conversations for later. Alex, you can find him on the Comic Book Club podcast. Thanks so much for everything you do for

[1:07:34] >> Uh, thanks for having me here. Going to talk to my agent. Oh, hello. Is it good news? >> Let us know next time. And Mike, I know [laughter] you >> I didn't know you or not.

[1:07:47] >> Nope, I had nothing else. I'm good. >> I thought that was it. I thought that was the organic end of the bit. Then cultivate that. That was the end of the take. [laughter] >> Go award. I'm the worst host ever. I

[1:08:00] at the end. I'll talk to you later. Bye. >> And Mike, of course, you can find Mike uh always doing shows in Chicago. And his uh Instagram, Mike Mdyd, is linked out of the pound, man. I appreciate you. >> Yeah, all 101 Dalmatians just got

[1:08:16] arrested on a DUI, so I got to get out of here, guys. But thanks so much. course, you can find on his own channel and here on this channel all the time. Thanks, Colton, so much. And what do you guys think about these X-Men casting

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