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[00:23] there we are hello everyone this is the

[00:27] cars and bids live show

[00:30] I have with me

[00:31] Kenan you know Kenan and then also we

[00:34] have felipo my longtime Nemesis yep and

[00:38] today we are going yes we are proud

[00:41] today we are going to talk about the New

[00:43] Hampshire primary no I'm kidding we're

[00:45] not going to do that

[00:48] specifically um instead we're going to

[00:50] talk about cars Kenan start us

[00:54] off well Kenan what sort of cars do we

[00:57] have today we have a lot of we we have a

[01:00] lot of really good stuff on the site

[01:01] right right now uh we recently

[01:03] instituted a new feature called featured

[01:05] have you seen this featured this has

[01:07] changed my entire experience yes so at

[01:09] the top of our website we now have this

[01:10] Banner with some cars that Doug

[01:13] personally will go through and select

[01:14] that are cool and you can kind of scroll

[01:16] through it uh mobile has a slightly

[01:17] different um approach and they're also

[01:19] located like as you scroll down

[01:21] throughout the list you see that Z1 but

[01:23] yeah we have quite a few really cool

[01:24] cars Z1 yeah Z1 look at that the right

[01:27] lead image as well cuz the doors are

[01:29] down the way it should be the doors are

[01:31] down and the snow is out that's how it's

[01:33] done that's right but Z1 so cool why

[01:37] don't I have a Z1 why don't you have a

[01:38] Z1 I thought about it CU they're

[01:41] expensive they are really expensive it's

[01:43] a lot of money for E30 with the doors

[01:46] that go down I I tried to convince Kenan

[01:48] to buy a Z1 after why don't you buy a Z1

[01:50] I would be kind of into that but the

[01:52] doors are really expensive I'll pay for

[01:54] any door issues wow I'll give you a

[01:55] warranty that's but you have to let me

[01:57] use the Z1 whenever I want including all

[01:59] summer

[02:01] on the East Coast well look I'll pay for

[02:03] the sh I'm shpping it I'll ship it this

[02:06] could be a deal that works out for

[02:07] everybody you get the pain of owning I

[02:09] get the pain there's no way I win here

[02:12] but it is what do you mean I'm paying

[02:13] for the door issues true also

[02:15] fundamentally it is K let's do this

[02:17] let's buy this car what do the people

[02:18] say people what do you

[02:21] say nobody has said anything about our

[02:23] Z1 decision people should we buy a Z1 I

[02:26] like the idea of a Z1 with like a an s

[02:29] an s52 swap would be pretty cool someone

[02:32] says why not Z8 no you don't understand

[02:34] the doors don't go down you don't

[02:35] understand the z8's doors are

[02:37] regular someone says maybe a Z8 do these

[02:40] people not get the concept

[02:43] com the comments always say do kenon

[02:47] comments should Kenan cut off his ear

[02:49] live on camera what do the comments

[02:51] say the comments will always say yes oh

[02:54] wait there's a poll I'm going to vote

[02:56] can I vote can you go to featured hover

[02:58] River auctions no

[03:00] okay we're not actually gonna buy the Z1

[03:02] for a lot of reasons but I would like a

[03:04] Z1 okay we have this featur thing now

[03:06] and so all these cars are feat now what

[03:08] happens is this what happens is this I

[03:10] select the cars that were featuring and

[03:12] it's very exciting for me because

[03:14] they're at the top of the whole website

[03:16] and they have all these pictures and

[03:17] they're very beautiful so yeah I

[03:18] selected this M5 tour yeah it's a great

[03:20] carard yeah that's a click on that

[03:21] that's a cool car that's a cool car

[03:23] we're in the midwest is this thing

[03:24] located Texas it's in Texas look at this

[03:26] thing so cool oh man the pictures make

[03:29] it seem even cooler cuz it looks like

[03:30] it's about to go set a speed

[03:33] record look at that oh that's so Co oh

[03:35] and that that BMW M5 license

[03:37] plate H why don't I own an M5 touring

[03:40] why don't you they're not they're not as

[03:41] expensive as you might think like Fast

[03:43] performance expensive things so true

[03:45] those are all of the reasons you or good

[03:47] or good I would buy a nice

[03:49] like this car is too good for fipo

[03:51] Filippo's problem is that he like he

[03:53] like perpetually kind of hates himself

[03:55] fipo and I drive manual transmissions in

[03:57] very different ways fipo believes in

[03:59] shifting before 1,000 RPM keeping it

[04:02] like at 800 that's where he Shi going

[04:03] for fuel he wants to be in fifth gear

[04:05] before he's out of the driveway and

[04:07] that's that's not if it's a long enough

[04:08] driveway yeah it's not far from the

[04:11] truth this car you don't do that with

[04:13] someone asked why doesn't kenon have one

[04:15] of those because kenan's already got it

[04:16] the sedan kenon actually doesn't like

[04:17] wagons this is here's something we

[04:19] should discuss I don't love wagons I

[04:20] don't love wagons I've come around on

[04:22] them more and I think the E34 touring is

[04:24] especially nice looking it's a really

[04:26] good looking car kenon why don't you

[04:27] love wag well wait a minute go back one

[04:29] picture oh God Kenan does not have a

[04:31] need for practicality in his life I

[04:33] didn't go to that picture of the sunroof

[04:35] you know I I thought this thing was in

[04:37] like a rural area where they were like

[04:38] doing high speed runs it's like a it's

[04:40] like a hospital complex right there

[04:42] that's Texas disappointing I thought

[04:45] after they took the pictur the guy went

[04:46] out and drove at 185 mil hour and I love

[04:48] those wheels so much those are just so

[04:51] cool love the throwing stars this car

[04:53] had some of the most interesting wheels

[04:54] of any car in the history of Wheels man

[04:56] that

[04:57] interior what was the other wheel

[05:00] blue you don't know this you don't know

[05:02] this show them the turbine the E34 M5

[05:05] also got the M parallel I believe it's

[05:06] not no no no what was the crazy wheel on

[05:08] E34 M5 show him the turbines oh the

[05:11] turbines um they like it was the ugliest

[05:14] thing you will ever see in your life but

[05:15] it was it was designed so that it would

[05:18] cool the brakes right K yes believe that

[05:20] that's

[05:23] right5 oh wow yeah that's right I on car

[05:27] though pictures ugly but and it didn't

[05:31] look like a performance car at all it

[05:33] didn't have any reason

[05:35] they in theory I think they cooled the

[05:38] brakes um whether or not they cooled the

[05:41] brakes in practice we're still not sure

[05:43] right right and you know whether or not

[05:45] that made any difference to of the car

[05:48] seems very

[05:49] unlikely um but but man that looks that

[05:52] looks so

[05:54] good it's hatus that one is nice but

[05:57] those wheels are so bad

[06:00] I like this and obviously by the way if

[06:01] I had an E34 M5 I would only want those

[06:03] Wheels because they're like insane yeah

[06:06] correct now this car though I didn't

[06:08] realize it was black on Blue can I bid

[06:09] on this is this no reserve it is not no

[06:11] Reserve unfortunately yeah I didn't

[06:12] realize it was black on blue but it is

[06:14] black on blue and that is something fine

[06:17] looks great um oh my gosh

[06:22] look that's that's a very cool it's like

[06:24] Ikea this was OE spec this way i' be

[06:28] this is why we have to have interior

[06:29] pictures on the featured cuz like what

[06:32] is going on right it appears that this

[06:34] was the scroll up does it have a does it

[06:36] have a um Diamond Black Metallic with a

[06:39] black and blue interior wow yeah it

[06:41] looks like that was wild well how many

[06:43] miles are on this car oh no no blue

[06:44] upholster

[06:46] inter you've done the same thing of

[06:48] course so dist track I did once blue an

[06:50] interior there's a guy named Albert here

[06:52] in San Diego um who blued my interior I

[06:56] refer to him only as Albert the interior

[07:01] Bluer yep I don't know what I would

[07:05] shout him out right now no it's AP auler

[07:08] AP upholster how how much time is left

[07:10] on R8 we should talk about that seven

[07:12] minutes seven minutes left on an R8 so

[07:14] this is one of the featured cars and

[07:15] it's closing

[07:17] today the

[07:19] R8 you drove a V10 r i yes I've driven

[07:23] yeah I've I've driven two R8s ever one

[07:27] was the they all all that's not true

[07:29] several R8s but all of them have been

[07:31] v10s that's one of my one of my things

[07:33] but of the newer generation only the V10

[07:36] plus and the uh RWS no plebian

[07:39] V10 since we're talking about great cars

[07:42] can you click on that Volvo

[07:44] 850r we'll get to the Volvo 850 cck on

[07:46] the Volvo 850r we will get there click

[07:48] on it immediately patience I'm going to

[07:50] tell you an interest you got seven

[07:51] minutes left on this we'll come back to

[07:52] the a eight it's got wheels that look

[07:54] like 15 minutes left on the Volvo all

[07:55] right click on the Volvo I'm going to

[07:56] tell you something very interesting

[07:57] about the Volvo I think we got to give

[07:58] in on this kind of okay there's no

[08:01] winning the VIN of this car yv1 LS 58

[08:06] that's how it starts LS the VIN of the

[08:08] regular turbo yv1 LS 57 the VIN of the

[08:12] na cars yv1

[08:15] ls55 okay we can go back to that now and

[08:18] uh yeah thanks so the if it was a wagon

[08:20] it was yv1 LW but then the 57 58 and 55

[08:24] that all stays the same really

[08:26] interesting you've learned something

[08:28] today did thank you for sharing that

[08:29] knowledge I'm not going to retain that

[08:30] great photos on that 50r you would

[08:32] retain that if that was if that was BMW

[08:34] you would retain that yeah it's the 50r

[08:36] is very cool we we'll discuss it more at

[08:39] length you're going you're not going to

[08:41] say anything about the R8 other than it

[08:42] has a V10 well it also has the Diamond S

[08:45] the Le package which is great I think I

[08:48] think the alth I wish that they had the

[08:49] TT baseball glove interior available on

[08:52] these do you know that was fake yeah the

[08:54] stitching was it had regular stitching

[08:56] and then it had baseball glove on top of

[08:58] it why did not do it anytime besides

[09:00] that cuz I think I think there were

[09:01] durability issues have you ever been in

[09:04] one no let's just say the the the

[09:06] baseball glove stitching is uh it's

[09:08] fraying all right well I will say looks

[09:10] like a baseball glove that ta cob

[09:12] used the DI looks great to be I love the

[09:16] R8 that's such a great car kenon another

[09:18] car for you to consider no it's it's an

[09:20] auto it's an auto K won't buy anything

[09:23] first gen and those are those manual

[09:25] first gen are not inexpensive Ken won't

[09:27] buy anything with an auto unless it's a

[09:28] Fiat 5 00 e that's exactly what I was

[09:30] going to say we will reveal live right

[09:32] now that kennet is considering buying an

[09:34] electric car there's technically no

[09:36] transmission still yeah because electric

[09:38] cars don't have Transmissions I still

[09:40] haven't owned an automatic transmission

[09:42] that's right it doesn't shift gears AO

[09:44] it has no transmission well you know

[09:45] what then people with electric cars can

[09:46] say they they own a car with a

[09:48] transmission I could also according to

[09:49] you I could say that I've never owned a

[09:51] forced induction car because it's

[09:52] naturally aspirated uh no no no no no

[09:55] according to you yeah it's naturally

[09:58] aspirated there you are I've never owned

[09:59] the car with forced induction I think

[10:01] that was my point or was my point that

[10:03] it's forced induction because wind blows

[10:05] on it your point was whatever my point

[10:07] was I it's wrong whatever but electric

[10:10] cars are naturally aspirated that was my

[10:13] point everybody's like mourning the

[10:14] death of the naturally aspirated engine

[10:16] they failed to understand what about the

[10:18] tyon turbo the tyon turbo despite its

[10:21] name is naturally aspirated I think

[10:23] that's why everybody was so mad about

[10:25] that them calling it a turbo because

[10:26] it's an

[10:28] MA that's why yeah struck the nail

[10:30] firmly on the head there um but exactly

[10:34] yeah I have been vaguely considering

[10:35] getting an electric car because I live

[10:37] relatively I don't have to drive as far

[10:39] as I used to I moved recently closer to

[10:41] the city so I don't need to to go around

[10:43] as much and now when I drive the M5 like

[10:45] the oil isn't really getting warm and so

[10:47] that's been like kind of and it's as a

[10:49] result the car is also getting like 10

[10:51] 11 miles of the gallon uh which is not

[10:54] great some mornings Kenan drives like 10

[10:57] minutes away from his house most

[10:59] mornings and he complained recently that

[11:00] the lights changed and now it's green

[11:02] lights entire way yes they changed the

[11:04] light pattern recently so now it's green

[11:06] so the car really has no time to warm

[11:07] right right some people would celebrate

[11:09] the fact that they don't have to stop it

[11:10] at a red light every block not me for

[11:12] two miles no not me not K you know if

[11:15] you're going to argue that the Fiat 500

[11:17] does not have a transmission so you

[11:19] still only own manual cars someone who

[11:21] has a Tesla and has only ever own Teslas

[11:24] could be like I've never had an

[11:25] automatic right only na only na non-

[11:28] automatic for

[11:30] me it's Technic they've had no trans

[11:32] yeah that's true no transmission but I I

[11:35] don't I don't know it's I don't know

[11:37] douas said just keep the M5 and drive it

[11:39] around a little bit more and maybe

[11:41] that's accurate I don't know or you

[11:42] could buy an R8 V10 plus well there is

[11:45] that so can we talk about the fact that

[11:46] this car is essentially a Huracan but

[11:49] it's more of a

[11:50] hurant it's uh yeah well because the

[11:54] Huracan is a Huracan but this is an Audi

[11:56] right this car is like yeah it's it's

[11:58] more understated although the AR gets a

[12:00] lot of attention like our friends who

[12:02] have had them like still how much power

[12:04] does this car have 610 610 and it's a

[12:07] naturally aspirated V10 yep yeah and I

[12:09] think White's also the right color with

[12:11] the the side the contrasting side blades

[12:13] I I personally would never personally

[12:15] buy a Huracan but I would buy an R8

[12:17] right because it's subtler right would

[12:19] you buy a 1986 Volvo 850r yes that's a

[12:22] very here's another 850r tri% that the

[12:25] 850r was only sold the '96 and 97 model

[12:28] years do you know what it was called

[12:31] 95

[12:34] no the t5r right right and in that model

[12:39] year it was only offered in yellow black

[12:41] or there were 10 that were green what

[12:44] was the green called I don't know but it

[12:46] was

[12:46] heinous it was dark great it was can can

[12:49] we look at that A50 AR is clearly we're

[12:50] moving there we'll come back to the the

[12:53] photos are

[12:54] wonderful as B fits yeah the only

[12:57] drawback of this 850 RS does not have uh

[12:59] the stock wheels these are turbo Wheels

[13:02] but you can tell it's an R because it

[13:03] has foggies and go into the interior

[13:06] here how's the other how else can you

[13:07] tell it's an R fipo tell us I'm really

[13:09] sorry to say that I my knowledge does

[13:11] not run that deep on Cana seat centers

[13:14] now it's a tip or an automatic as you

[13:16] would say all 850 RS in the United

[13:19] States were automatic Canada got sticks

[13:21] really you believe that huh Canada I'm

[13:24] surprised if we're not see more people

[13:25] import them Canada having all the fun

[13:27] well people do swaps because you can do

[13:29] it like in your backyard in a weekend

[13:31] like me and Ken could have a couple of C

[13:32] ones and kind of knock it out knock it

[13:36] out you of course owned an 850 yeah I

[13:39] know all this stuff because I had an 850

[13:41] Turbo and I always lusted after the r

[13:43] but I couldn't do it the r had 18 more

[13:46] horsepower Alcantara seat centers bigger

[13:48] Wheels which this one does not have and

[13:50] fog lights is that it look at those

[13:54] foggies um what color was yours mine was

[13:57] white the r was offered in red

[13:59] black something

[14:02] else man four M's too this is like a

[14:04] longterm been here for a long time not

[14:06] original to California though I don't

[14:08] think it's for him but it's

[14:10] close Ken do you have anything to say

[14:12] about this car's front-wheel drive it's

[14:14] very cool it's oh

[14:17] wow 240 turbocharged horsepower Canon so

[14:20] same as the E36 imagine how fast you can

[14:22] go around a track God that's is that

[14:24] true yeah E46 M3 or E36 M3 was 240

[14:27] horsep E36 M3 needs more power well I

[14:31] guess this does to then huh well this is

[14:32] a this was an executive Saloon okay this

[14:35] was kind of with four doors do you know

[14:37] who bought this in 1996 people like him

[14:40] who were like they want they wanted a

[14:42] little bit of sportiness but like not

[14:44] too much why don't you of course I would

[14:46] have bought it in like 2004 cuz right

[14:48] you would have bought it used yeah of

[14:50] course why don't I have a Volvo it's a

[14:51] great question it's a very you brand I

[14:54] really wanted an a v50 for a long time I

[14:56] think it's almost too on nose though for

[14:58] fipo

[14:59] kill for wood center console we I would

[15:01] kill for a V70 hey kenon pull up V70

[15:04] sales just type in V70 there oh you

[15:06] don't have to type inv Volvo only to

[15:10] take longer you don't have to

[15:12] kill go to k screen we sold some for 7

[15:17] Grand 6700 bucks would have got you into

[15:20] one I bet there all no 8300 would have

[15:23] gotten you into one have we sold any um

[15:26] non oh you did you just do RS no you

[15:29] can you filter for manual please no no

[15:31] filter for do do cross countries do type

[15:34] in XC70 that's what he really wants no I

[15:36] I prefer the the non-raised uh it's

[15:39] worthed right Doug has a has a E-class

[15:42] wagon all terrain so now he's all in on

[15:45] alter bodying look at what these are

[15:48] selling for even that that that I

[15:50] strongly considered B 201 sold for

[15:54] that's a bargain if I didn't already own

[15:56] a station where was this car this was in

[15:57] California mhm where

[16:00] Northern U srono for 13 Grand I one

[16:03] issue I already own a 2014 station wagon

[16:07] look at this interior I don't know that

[16:08] I need another early 2010s car you could

[16:11] have had this right instead you have

[16:13] that desino interior correct that

[16:16] embarrassing logo on the it's not

[16:18] embarrassing I'm proud of it you're

[16:19] embarrassed by it of course I bet you've

[16:21] thought about taking it off no I don't

[16:24] modify my cars Canon uhhuh okay um

[16:28] someone just wrote Into the comments and

[16:30] said Doug is the kind of guy who says a

[16:31] Bosch refrigerator is an NA non-auto oh

[16:35] I think it's definitely

[16:38] na that's an interesting question does a

[16:41] Bosch refrigerator have like a how does

[16:43] it work like any other refrigerator but

[16:45] how did that how does all that work plug

[16:46] it in I don't think we have time the the

[16:49] R8 is is uh is winding out so the R8 is

[16:53] winding down o b 1129 fipo can we always

[16:58] when we always have people on we talk

[16:59] about our bidding strategy how would you

[17:01] you bought a car on Cars and bids I did

[17:03] what was your bidding strategy I went up

[17:04] in small increments was my Str the time

[17:06] FIP cheapest man I've ever met so no

[17:08] surprise that F's going to go up in

[17:09] small increments he probably I think

[17:11] that that there is a real differential

[17:13] strategy between no reserve and Reserve

[17:14] auctions for this small increments for

[17:16] no Reserve I I think so because your

[17:18] next bid could actually win it if

[17:20] there's no if there's a reserve I think

[17:22] big bids to get really close to market

[17:25] value and then potentially smaller bids

[17:27] thereafter I think you're dead wrong

[17:30] probably because I think if you show up

[17:33] with a bid here on this car at 1119

[17:35] everybody's going to run away right

[17:37] that's true but even if it was no

[17:39] Reserve they'd be terrified of you

[17:41] they'd be like oh that guy's got 119

[17:42] Grand two years ago I bought an E350

[17:45] wagon off cars and bids yeah what' you

[17:46] pay uh

[17:57] $27,500 don't do that very

[18:01] dangerous don't ever do that that's the

[18:04] biggest strategy Point don't do that you

[18:06] can bid in the when it's 59 seconds left

[18:08] guys it doesn't change anything oh kon's

[18:10] going to scroll down to call out the

[18:12] person who did it espe La one La one

[18:14] playing uh playing dangerously there but

[18:16] at the end of my auction we were at

[18:18] about market value I I didn't want us

[18:20] pay that there was like a ending point

[18:22] but you were afraid to go higher I I

[18:24] went in like largish increments I don't

[18:26] know $500 or $1,000 up to the mid 20s

[18:29] but then after that a limit after that

[18:32] you wish that you could have gone up an

[18:33] incurrence of $5 if only if only God

[18:36] that would be deep I and the guy I

[18:37] bought it from recently had sold two

[18:39] other cars with this when we were

[18:40] launching the site I remember having the

[18:41] bid increments

[18:43] discussion and trying to figure out you

[18:46] know what to do with that we fin changed

[18:48] them multiple times oh so we did we got

[18:50] it wrong yeah we we originally had bid

[18:53] increments that were too small at two

[18:54] high values it made bidding just yeah

[18:56] that's what would happen at 100 grand it

[18:58] was still like 250 bucks and people

[19:00] would get into bidding wars over $250 on

[19:03] $100,000 car and it was like no sir no

[19:08] cannot have this go for 20 hours I will

[19:10] yeah it's like yeah that that Auctioneer

[19:12] I keep forgetting his name from um from

[19:14] Gooding he just goes I will not accept

[19:16] that number someone has replied in the

[19:19] chat the best bidding strategy is to

[19:20] always be prepared to walk away no you

[19:23] got the best bidding strategy is to win

[19:24] at all costs yes they said as a

[19:28] I now bid more and give us more money I

[19:32] think setting your yeah setting your

[19:33] number and generally sticking to it so

[19:35] you don't have any regrets about buying

[19:37] the car uh is important I do

[19:39] legitimately believe in bidd you will

[19:41] not do that nobody nobody does that a

[19:44] lot of people also have people bid via

[19:46] proxy like at auctions they'll send

[19:48] people to inspect their cars and bid on

[19:49] them that way so that like there's

[19:50] number they're not going to go over it

[19:52] because it's their job not to right um

[19:54] so like if you're strict with yourself

[19:55] sure um but that said most of the time

[19:58] you probably will exceed it so you know

[20:01] you do get caught up in the bidding for

[20:02] sure oh you get caught up and then all

[20:04] you want to do is buy the car I still

[20:05] that's how I feel still for example

[20:07] there are a few cars I'd like to buy on

[20:08] the site right now please give us some

[20:09] examples um the

[20:12] um the Ram truck can can you pull up the

[20:15] Ram truck look oh wow you had it ready

[20:18] knew I was going to talk about it it's

[20:19] so cool this is the finest truck we've

[20:21] ever auction on cars and bids if some if

[20:24] you are interested in a truck and you

[20:26] want a Chevy and you want it to be knew

[20:28] you're wrong you actually want this yeah

[20:32] here are all the great things about it

[20:34] and by the way fipo and Ken know nothing

[20:36] about trucks so I'm just going to have

[20:37] to carry this one he's from Ohio I lived

[20:39] in Wisconsin for a long time okay all

[20:40] right you take us through no

[20:43] please okay this truck this is the

[20:46] you'll not by the way Watchers he's

[20:48] going to the the auction description in

[20:50] my in my opinion this is the best um

[20:54] body style of the ram which was sold I

[20:56] think from 95 to 02 three this is the

[20:58] best body style and it just looked the

[21:00] coolest cuz it had these fenders that

[21:02] that made it look like the person was

[21:03] showing up at your house with a shotgun

[21:05] you know what I mean like it they going

[21:06] to do some stuff and it was in Twister

[21:08] so that's something it was in twister

[21:09] and it was great in twister now the

[21:11] Twister guy Bill Pullman Bill Paxton he

[21:14] didn't have he didn't have a douly right

[21:17] if only he had yeah he had a

[21:20] douly maybe the Twister wouldn't

[21:23] wouldn't have killed him I don't know I

[21:25] remember it's been 30 years since that

[21:28] movie came out but the point is this

[21:30] I've been trying to think during this

[21:31] whether I actually remember the plot of

[21:32] mie through a house in the truck at one

[21:34] point I remember that right this is

[21:36] final model year 4x4 duly it has the

[21:40] cumins engine and it's four-wheel drive

[21:42] and it only has 40,000 Mi this is like

[21:44] the coolest truck that has ever existed

[21:46] in the history of the world yeah it's up

[21:49] there naturally it's in Texas yeah you

[21:52] want to go out out of the those are

[21:54] great thanks thanks for showing us the

[21:55] alternator K Ken do you have any

[21:57] thoughts

[21:59] it's a big

[22:01] truck what would you truck like this

[22:04] what would your First Act be park it

[22:06] somewhere and now think about it I I

[22:09] don't really know I don't I'm just not I

[22:11] just don't have a use for a pickup truck

[22:13] and I you know don't really have that

[22:15] much interest in them I think they're I

[22:17] think it's cool I also respect how clean

[22:19] and nice this one is and also to see one

[22:21] of these with 40,000 miles on is insane

[22:24] most of them are 250 300,000 miles yeah

[22:28] yeah pretty common so to see one that's

[22:30] like I think this is the right color um

[22:33] also to I think just looks great in red

[22:35] like it's just a cool truck can it bring

[22:37] us back to the r which is still going

[22:40] still going

[22:42] 16277

[22:45] 16277 specially Ali want in cars 766 are

[22:48] really going back and forth here on and

[22:50] $500 increments yeah come on for for a

[22:54] little bit there they're going just

[22:55] slightly or speci one is going above the

[22:58] minimum increment someone replied that

[23:00] the SRT10 pickup is the coolest that's a

[23:02] good point s this is the second coolest

[23:04] yeah but this is the better generation

[23:05] the rt10 is maybe cooler but that's

[23:07] exactly if they had done an SRT10 on

[23:09] that

[23:10] gen now the first gen Ram is is the

[23:13] really crazy one yeah you've never seen

[23:15] one I I have but why is it why do you

[23:16] think it's crazy CU like what was going

[23:17] on there right right what was happening

[23:19] with

[23:21] that kenon dots on the R8

[23:24] closing wow what other vids com back oh

[23:28] the Volvo 50 are already sold in the

[23:30] time that we were discussing these what

[23:31] did it sell for sell for 4600 us yeah

[23:35] you know you can go to past

[23:37] auctions yes thank you thank you I

[23:39] wasn't necessarily going to reference

[23:41] the $4,600 it's fine it's wo 50 a true

[23:45] mileage unnown 50r just cool love that

[23:47] we have cool for that kind of too that's

[23:50] a very cool car for pull up a question

[23:51] we're going to answer a question while

[23:53] the R8 is still going all right sounds

[23:55] good

[23:56] okay okay first question let's start at

[23:59] the top and go down Josh when was when

[24:01] was the last time you thought about the

[24:02] consulier GTP occasionally

[24:06] Josh filipo yeah almost never really

[24:09] never almost never comes up sometimes I

[24:12] I thought about it recently Oh I thought

[24:14] about it recently because I watched the

[24:15] Cars movie with my son and there's one

[24:17] in it one of them car one of the

[24:18] animated cars is I think he's in the

[24:20] background like it's not he doesn't have

[24:21] a speaking Ro uh but he's he's there did

[24:24] you tell your did you teach your son

[24:26] about the controler G GTB

[24:28] uh yeah no I said nothing to him for a

[24:33] lot of reasons um okay Kenan this one's

[24:36] for you Carol writes if the M3 touring

[24:38] was available in the US would you

[24:39] consider buying one I I actually would I

[24:42] think that's a very special card if it

[24:44] were offered but here's the thing if it

[24:45] were ever offered here knowing BMW they'

[24:47] only offer with an automatic and that's

[24:50] significantly less attractive to me when

[24:51] I was at the last BMW press event I was

[24:53] at one in Scottsdale in March and I told

[24:55] them straight up that if they sold the

[24:56] M3 wagon here I'd buy a new one so I'd

[24:58] said you'd get one personal one

[25:01] sale so I'd have to follow through on

[25:03] that right yeah you saw the I5 wagon

[25:05] yeah beautiful looks nice it's fine the

[25:08] M5 wagon is coming here are you going to

[25:11] buy one no I didn't commit to that to

[25:14] the M3 um kenon would you actually buy

[25:16] the touring over the sedan you're you're

[25:18] a sedan Man At Heart yeah but that will

[25:20] be the special one and that is like the

[25:22] and like it is such a wonderful car to

[25:24] drive and I and I actually love the way

[25:26] the touring looks on that car there just

[25:28] certain wagons I think look kind of

[25:30] awkward and and gangly um I think like

[25:33] the the the E39 touring doesn't

[25:35] particularly doesn't really work for me

[25:38] I don't really love the way that car

[25:39] looks really um but the E34 touring

[25:41] looks right like it just looks that

[25:43] looks correct I disagree with you J I

[25:45] think every wagon has looked better than

[25:46] the sedan except I also have an

[25:49] exception in mind the Volvo V the

[25:51] original Volvo V70 and S60 the S60 is a

[25:54] beautiful car I think that the second

[25:55] generation S60 and V60 I think the sedan

[25:58] looks

[26:00] better do you think the looks better

[26:02] than the original S60 or V60 the

[26:06] original V60 that's a beautiful can I

[26:09] pull a picture look of Volvo V60 from I

[26:13] admit that the S60 of that gen and up I

[26:16] think I don't yeah you the blue one the

[26:19] pstar you think the San look better than

[26:21] generation pstar excluded this

[26:22] generation General I think the S60 early

[26:25] s60s look better than the early v60's

[26:27] wow wrong but wow pull up a picture of

[26:29] the S60 Canon it it just such a

[26:31] beautiful sedan

[26:33] shape wow we have a similar opinion

[26:35] about this just a slightly different

[26:37] model right you're right it is a

[26:38] beautiful sedan shape it is a beautiful

[26:41] sedan shape that is true like it's like

[26:43] a short trunk short trunk little

[26:45] hatchback when this car first came out

[26:47] yeah yeah click on that thank you when

[26:48] this car first came out which was like

[26:50] 2010 11 there was like the first one I

[26:53] saw not the poar it was just a regular

[26:55] one with the orange it was red I think

[26:58] there was a guy at Emory who who had

[26:59] like a employee who had bought one and I

[27:01] walked up to him and I was like Hey man

[27:03] nice car and I bet he was all excited

[27:05] cuz he just bought like the first S60 in

[27:06] Atlanta no one I bet no one has said

[27:09] anything to a sense it's a beautiful car

[27:12] I don't agree with your S60 V70 but the

[27:14] thing I the problem that I have with

[27:15] that V70 that gen V70 the S60 had this

[27:19] beautiful front end that was sculpted

[27:21] and then the V70 it just kind of like

[27:23] 90° what's that about right it didn't

[27:26] look right it was like that 09s where

[27:27] they facelifted the front but didn't

[27:29] facelift the rear I'm a very practical

[27:31] man so I'm I'm okay with that because I

[27:33] want the

[27:34] practicality right you then that makes

[27:36] sense I think that's why they did it

[27:38] yeah because from a practical

[27:39] perspective it was better but in my

[27:41] opinion it didn't look as good kenon do

[27:43] you have any thoughts on uh mid 2000s

[27:45] Volvo station wagons nope next

[27:48] question wait go back to the R8 this is

[27:50] really happening here this this car has

[27:52] gotten like 50,000 bids since we got

[27:54] watch a big perhaps

[27:58] was like I'm going to put this guy away

[27:59] done it yeah that's right if he had just

[28:01] done it 10 grand ago he would have

[28:03] scared away cars 766 unquestionably if

[28:06] you're comfortable getting to that

[28:07] number out do it did he scare him off

[28:09] yeah he scared him off car 76 is ain't

[28:11] going to go to 120 come on ESP other

[28:12] ones got this thing in the

[28:13] back boom sold click on spe one what

[28:17] else he bought very nice Mr

[28:19] speal let's see who he bit on a mercy

[28:23] mer low mileage 430 he's legit what else

[28:26] did he coming on only the right I like

[28:28] this dude he's been on the right cars

[28:30] yeah yeah that's some good good taste

[28:32] car you drove around this morning in

[28:34] 4:30 speak I did yeah I did there's

[28:36] going to be one on the site I brought I

[28:38] drove around a manual F430 SP you went

[28:40] and got that from wow yeah and must be

[28:43] nice to it was it was it was nice it's

[28:46] it's manual F430 yeah that's right F40

[28:51] manual converted at 430 but yes hey go

[28:53] to the M3 we got a good M3 coming

[28:56] up this one is a good M3 yes cuz I had

[28:59] to go to Elite finish as well to pick up

[29:00] tell us about the M3 kenon so this is

[29:03] this is kind of an interesting one so

[29:05] it's an E43 or E46 SMG M3 and it has a

[29:09] supercharger on it but they've retained

[29:11] the SMG which is kind of interesting if

[29:13] I were going to mod an SMG car

[29:14] personally I would add the manual but uh

[29:16] it's kind of an interesting hardly hide

[29:18] the derision in his voice I don't think

[29:20] he's trying kenon the dude put put a

[29:22] blower on this thing he wanted to drive

[29:24] it he wanted to daily it but have power

[29:26] I mean did that look at that man it is a

[29:30] tight how much power you think this is

[29:31] making with the

[29:34] blower is that

[29:37] accurate um okay so there's no actual

[29:40] doesn't look like we there doesn't look

[29:41] like there was a don't dinos sheep

[29:44] performance other other performance mods

[29:47] too lot of yeah a lot of performance

[29:49] modifications on this one which which is

[29:51] nice uh and I actually think it's pretty

[29:53] Tastefully done I mean you can obviously

[29:55] see the intercooler but other than that

[29:57] like and it being lowered um very tasly

[29:59] done steel gr is also nice col good

[30:01] restraint the question I have with this

[30:03] one that I'm very confused about is why

[30:05] is there such a giant brake pedal on

[30:07] this car he's couldn't stop I mean this

[30:10] person really wanted to be able to stop

[30:12] and uh they're trying to stop dude they

[30:14] blew it it has a supercharger it's got

[30:16] 600 horsepower proba you got to be able

[30:17] to stop well yeah they don't want to

[30:19] miss they want to both feet on the

[30:20] brakes to stop with that car is what

[30:23] they want to do cuz that's that's an

[30:24] incredibly W especially for a car that's

[30:26] you know

[30:28] two I mean that

[30:30] OCC just to compare the the brake pedals

[30:33] sure if you put this much power into an

[30:35] E46 M3 sold by the way for

[30:38] $28,000 if you put this much power into

[30:40] an E46 M3 you would also want a big

[30:42] brake pedal have to stop so there's a

[30:46] normal brake pedal for reference you

[30:48] know what you don't understand that too

[30:50] small given that you have the the

[30:51] compartment you know you don't design to

[30:53] have a manual with another pedal that's

[30:55] why and I'm not trying to I'm not trying

[30:56] to be a jerk but you know what you don't

[30:57] understand understand the bigger the

[30:58] more power the car has the bigger the

[31:00] brake P that's a pretty fairly

[31:02] traditional thank you but nonetheless

[31:04] also break pedal it's it's it's only

[31:07] only yay big you know but this is also 4

[31:11] GT when Carl supercharged when Carl put

[31:14] the tune on the 4GT had to a bigger

[31:17] breake

[31:17] pedal pass

[31:19] inspection thank you I'm glad you're so

[31:21] entertained with yourself over this but

[31:24] uh of course he calls out the size of

[31:26] the brake pedal

[31:27] well it's just the thing that's what is

[31:29] this color steel gray really looks nice

[31:31] how come we not part of this this is not

[31:32] around in our Lives why is your M5 not

[31:35] this color right because it isn't I

[31:37] don't know we it was an offered do you

[31:40] see this no it wasn't it was authored in

[31:42] anthracite and then it was offered um in

[31:44] Sterling gray but but I have seen one um

[31:48] so the guy who manages Matt Farah's uh

[31:50] Place bought one that was individually

[31:52] finished in this color and it looked it

[31:54] looks phenomenal Ryan serviced a d39 s

[31:56] and it looked amazing why didn't you buy

[31:58] it yeah I don't know why didn't he buy

[32:00] it no why didn't you buy it because I

[32:02] already have one I yeah but you could

[32:04] have had a steel gray one listen if the

[32:06] white if the correct white Ford GT came

[32:08] up with blue stripes old dirty over

[32:10] there is going away I'd have to wash it

[32:12] first right yeah for those who don't

[32:14] know Doug we had torrential rain in San

[32:17] Diego earlier this week and Doug thought

[32:19] it would be wise to Graham Doug thought

[32:21] it would be wise to go and um and drive

[32:24] around in the rain in the 4D GT um he

[32:27] had somewhere to go he only has one car

[32:30] um you're not signed into the gr also

[32:33] also he's Google search

[32:36] Instagram I just typed Instagram and it

[32:38] I thought it would automatically search

[32:40] whatever God I love kenon kenon

[32:43] Ken computer fipo we have a car M

[32:46] account all right Kenan pull up some

[32:48] questions let's can people ask Kenan

[32:50] crazy questions um he does GMA t50

[32:54] review when Alex Alexander asks GMA t50

[32:57] review when I can I'll I'll do exactly

[32:59] what he does with his response for all

[33:02] you got

[33:04] one that's his response the reason he

[33:06] hasn't done it yet is he hasn't been

[33:08] invited to and no one who has one has

[33:09] asked him and that and he I would

[33:11] imagine you would do it when it comes

[33:12] out am I accurate and is that all

[33:14] accurate yeah all right Paul asked which

[33:16] would you rather have the Ferrari 599 or

[33:18] the Mercedes SLR filipo I think you

[33:21] could take this one as a big fan of

[33:22] exotic sports cars do you know what

[33:24] these cars are of course generally I do

[33:27] do you think he knows he doesn't know

[33:29] about the base Wheels on the M SLR

[33:31] though I'll tell you that okay fipo

[33:33] there were two wheel designs on the SLR

[33:35] this is going to blow your mind it's

[33:38] it's not going to blow your mind as much

[33:39] as mine because you don't care about

[33:40] exotic cars don't type in Bas whe just

[33:43] type in SLR and

[33:45] eventually just SLR wheels that was 20

[33:47] minutes for me last night on the

[33:49] internet and then go to images yeah okay

[33:52] let's see if I can find

[33:54] them they are this might

[33:57] every photo here is the one that I

[33:58] associate yeah no no no you're right but

[34:01] it's that green car Ken now that green

[34:03] car is an MSO so MSO is m is remaking

[34:06] slrs like they're upgrading them and

[34:08] updating them okay but that wheel was

[34:11] offered as the base wheel on the SLR

[34:13] apparently when it was new now all MSO

[34:15] is putting all of these wheels on them

[34:17] now so it's not as uncommon as it was

[34:19] but like I found I dug up a press

[34:20] picture last night with the base wheel

[34:23] on it wow do you believe that not the

[34:26] little the little spinny

[34:28] guys debating which I like more the

[34:30] spinny guys yeah I mean the car was ugly

[34:32] and the spinny guys made it uglier and I

[34:33] think that that like added to the appeal

[34:35] it does I watered SLR bad I never

[34:37] thought the SLR was I always thought

[34:39] they were cool I think it's cool as hell

[34:41] but kenon and I discovered the problem

[34:43] well there are a number of problems I

[34:45] mean it's got a 5-speed torque converter

[34:48] for but yeah okay that was a problem but

[34:50] you remember the biggest problem

[34:51] remember when we found this out that

[34:53] that brakes are like 15 a quarter yes

[34:55] mainten yeah maintenance on the is not

[34:57] for the fainthearted that's for sure now

[34:59] brakes are like 15 a corner on the crer

[35:00] GT also but it's a c GT that car is 1.3

[35:04] million this is well and it's like the

[35:07] greatest car it's a little harder to

[35:08] justify dumping 60 Grand into brakes on

[35:10] an SLR which is worth $ 250 and kind of

[35:13] not so great and then you got to go into

[35:16] gear but at least you get to flip the

[35:18] thing up on top and press the button you

[35:19] flip the thing up and press the button

[35:21] have we asked hovie about this as as an

[35:24] owner of an SLR mle uh about these

[35:26] wheels just about you know ownership

[35:29] experience he would tell you I have no

[35:31] doubt that it has been fantastic cuz his

[35:34] flood damage Salvage titled one is has

[35:36] been no I'm I don't remember but I think

[35:38] he got it had some issues right wait

[35:40] what's the answer to the question 599

[35:42] Ken the correct

[35:44] answer uh yeah

[35:47] five the SLR is like K the SLR is it's a

[35:51] hyper car you've driven it too like I

[35:53] have and not it's the brakes oh God the

[35:56] brakes nothing nothing nothing

[35:58] everything all at once the brakes are

[35:59] bad brakes are bad you can't see way too

[36:01] heavy in front very long very way too

[36:03] long in front I don't think it's sound

[36:05] the interior is not good it does not

[36:06] sound good it's heinous I it's an ugly

[36:09] car the answer is the

[36:11] SLR it's just cool if okay if you're

[36:14] walking around down the street down Park

[36:16] Boulevard I saw an SLR and if 599 went

[36:18] by you'd be like wow 599 and you text me

[36:20] and I'd be like I don't believe you you

[36:21] don't have a picture if an SLR went by

[36:23] you would run after it with your camera

[36:25] going oh SLR SLR yeah I I mean I guess

[36:28] that's true but I buy a car I buy cars

[36:30] that I like to drive not what other

[36:31] people think you would

[36:33] too I would do a little faster but yeah

[36:35] he wouldn't know he wouldn't know which

[36:37] one was which would F he'd be like is

[36:40] that an SL Coupe I don't understand no

[36:43] that's more way more beautiful okay uh

[36:45] another question go to Thomas

[36:49] Maple oh wait sorry sorry I was looking

[36:51] at a different one that was about a

[36:52] paname Ryan it's a 2012 oh PanAm is 2012

[36:57] pan 4S with 60,000 Mi a good daily for

[36:59] 30 grand every week on this show we get

[37:01] asked the question should someone buy a

[37:02] heavily used four-door Porsche for like

[37:04] six it's like it's like a Cayenne Turbo

[37:07] for like $99,100 and the answer is

[37:10] always yes 100% now this blew me away

[37:13] cuz I recently had to do some 12 Grand

[37:15] what is that cheapest one we ever sold

[37:17] this was last year 2010 4S what all buy

[37:21] this it 11 16,700 miles but if memory

[37:24] servs me yeah no or it it had an

[37:26] accident as well but nonetheless 12,000

[37:28] I don't care if it had an accident I

[37:30] don't care if it rolled over now I got

[37:32] to tell you something so in 10 I worked

[37:33] at Porsche not quite in 10 but right

[37:35] after this car came out those Wheels

[37:37] were the base wheel on the 4S you like

[37:39] couldn't get them you would go into a

[37:40] dealer and you'd be like hey W those are

[37:43] I want a 4S paname like the cheapest one

[37:45] you can get and they were like okay but

[37:47] you have to order the wheels because

[37:48] these base wheels are so

[37:50] decrepit but this person pulled it off

[37:53] yeah dude 12 Grand what is it What was

[37:56] the question the question that question

[37:58] so for 30 grand for 30 dude Ryan don't

[38:01] pay 30,000 miles on it I mean personally

[38:04] I think you buy with a little more miles

[38:05] for half the money and then like you

[38:08] know half the money to I mean genuinely

[38:10] like why don't we all Drive PanAm how

[38:12] can you go wrong in this $112,000 paname

[38:14] let's pretend that the engine fails as

[38:16] you're leaving the dude's who has sold

[38:18] it to his house which is which is

[38:19] possible with which is

[38:21] possible you the car it's 12 Grand it

[38:23] Parts have to be worth at least a large

[38:26] component of that so then you would

[38:27] bring it to your house and every time

[38:29] someone needs a part you would go out to

[38:30] the car right right K like great exp

[38:34] wait screw up a little bit there was a

[38:36] different paname question you

[38:39] SC wait I had there was a great question

[38:41] down below w21 E55 station wagon or

[38:44] PanAm in the same price range oh my God

[38:45] they are in the same price range I mean

[38:47] oh wow they are I didn't even think

[38:49] about that okay w211 E55 wagon which was

[38:52] the supercharged one that was sold from

[38:54] 03 to 05 or a pan or a paname in the

[38:58] same price range I think personally I

[39:00] mean he's I'm in Florida the use case

[39:01] for the card who drives longer than an

[39:02] hour you got to get the paname andas

[39:05] occasional drag racing and the

[39:07] occasional drag RAC cuz he's in Florida

[39:08] and the cops look the other way you know

[39:10] at night the streets are flat straight

[39:12] and this guy he had a w211 and uh his

[39:15] wife hates that he sold it so I think

[39:16] that answers the question right there

[39:17] you definitely get a 211 you get a

[39:19] paname I agree with I didn't even

[39:23] thinker Kevin has that great one did you

[39:25] see it up there finish he doesn't notice

[39:27] no I saw there was a blue 360 challenge

[39:29] Jolly I went and looked at that there

[39:31] was some automatic Mercedes too I didn't

[39:32] see it I didn't um I mean I don't know I

[39:36] I personally don't think onece of the

[39:38] real consumer advice though the pinam

[39:39] only has four seats the 55 has five um

[39:43] that extra seat could make a difference

[39:44] it has seven the E55 had third the3 to

[39:47] 05 all the 211 am wagons offered a third

[39:50] row they didn't all have them but they

[39:51] all offered them 75% more seats more

[39:53] seats but the paname is just such a

[39:56] better car the tech is better it has pdk

[39:58] it's like I didn't even think about this

[40:00] cuz the E55 wagon is like 30 and that

[40:02] gets you like 30 gets you like a

[40:03] three-year-old paname

[40:05] turbo so paname pan is a better car E55

[40:09] is cooler and has 75% more seats so it

[40:12] depends if you want to be cool and get a

[40:14] car that you you know your wife likes

[40:16] then that the W I know but the panir is

[40:18] the better car but the panir is the

[40:19] better car for driving an hour again

[40:21] this is like the SLR 599 question

[40:23] moments ago the 599 is clearly the

[40:24] better car but I selected the SLR

[40:27] right and I selected the better car now

[40:28] I'm selecting the better car but the

[40:29] difference in the SLR and the 599 is

[40:31] this is a car you're screwing around

[40:32] with on weekends right this is a car the

[40:34] dude's driving and he's got to drag race

[40:36] people on at stop lights and and hope

[40:38] that the Stewart Florida Police

[40:39] Department doesn't arrest him but drag

[40:42] racing somebody with people facing

[40:43] rearwards is cooler than

[40:45] not that that is pretty cool done it it

[40:48] was great wow um okay not not

[40:52] particularly helpful but those are we

[40:54] have great questions here today we we

[40:56] have great questions here today Kenan

[40:58] would you ever consider go left one go

[40:59] left one left one Jason Hannon Kenan

[41:01] would you ever consider buying a car

[41:03] with an automatic transmission if so

[41:04] which one apparently an electric um

[41:06] there are there are some cars I like

[41:08] that are only offered with automatics

[41:10] like for instance the Mercedes uh CL65

[41:13] like the I adore that car but obviously

[41:16] only an automatic but in that particular

[41:18] case I think it kind of it just suits

[41:20] the car and what it does you put your

[41:22] foot down and wait and then you're gone

[41:24] Bentley's are the same way Bentley's are

[41:25] the same way um so there are and

[41:27] rolls-royces too so there are some cars

[41:29] that I would definitely consider as an

[41:30] automatic but generally I'm trying to

[41:32] keep the street going for as long as I

[41:33] can um and I'm sure I'll get tired of

[41:35] driving a manual someday but for now I

[41:37] really enjoy it so I'm sticking with

[41:39] manual transmission cars damn by the way

[41:41] good question yesterday on our on my my

[41:42] way home from dinner my wife explicitly

[41:45] pointed out that we should always have a

[41:46] manual car oh wow so good I will have a

[41:49] manual car I'm big suppor trying to hang

[41:51] on to his European Heritage okay scroll

[41:52] down there was some other good wait wait

[41:53] go back to that there was some really

[41:54] there was some really good question that

[41:56] deeply wanted to answer keep going go

[42:00] go further down he's going to tell me I

[42:03] went too far further

[42:05] down further down oh my God you went too

[42:08] far no I'm kidding that's good um okay

[42:11] how about this one AK driving asks if

[42:13] you were dictator of the US would you

[42:14] eliminate the 25y year import rule why

[42:17] or why not how would that work um uh

[42:21] yeah okay so look the 25-year import

[42:23] rule which is not a law by the way it's

[42:24] a regulation uh it came well I people

[42:27] say that it was a law as if the

[42:28] legislators passed it but they didn't

[42:30] and that's a very important distinction

[42:32] because it just sort of happened yeah um

[42:34] several car companies were uh were

[42:37] advocating for people to stop importing

[42:40] cars and getting them cheaper this was

[42:42] happening to Porsche was happening in

[42:43] BMW Mercedes-Benz in the 80s you could

[42:45] just import cars and so they they they

[42:48] they got upset and they lobbed the US

[42:49] government to make this import law which

[42:51] they did and now we have we have to

[42:54] abide by it and it's not the greatest

[42:56] thing for car enthusiasts who want newer

[42:58] cars but there is some benefits to it

[43:01] for for automakers and for Public Safety

[43:04] and but so I would get rid of it and

[43:05] move it down to a 12E import why 12 can

[43:09] 12 seems like it's about right it was a

[43:11] protectionist thing it was a

[43:12] protectionist thing for the automakers

[43:14] yeah which I get they're trying to run a

[43:16] business they invested a lot of money

[43:17] into the market you know Etc so but so

[43:20] you don't necessarily want it to be

[43:21] zero but 12 like no one who's buying a

[43:24] 13-year-old car is also considering new

[43:26] car sure right you know a 13-year-old

[43:28] car is 2011 2011 and then that gives us

[43:32] 2011 cars and I would go buy an M5 wagon

[43:35] oh

[43:36] E60 can we talk about the gt63 four-door

[43:39] special edition kenon go ahead it's

[43:41] green

[43:43] um these it is green these cars have

[43:46] always been interesting to me because it

[43:47] like I kind of lost like what Mercedes

[43:50] wanted it to be because they wanted a

[43:51] four-door version of their two-door

[43:53] sports car is what this made sense which

[43:55] made no sense sense at all but having

[43:57] been in one the performance outrageous I

[44:01] no I didn't drive it I rode passenger in

[44:03] it but it blew me it was like it was

[44:05] unbelievably probably the best driving

[44:07] four-door car I've ever been in my

[44:08] entire life that's that is a bold claim

[44:12] yeah I know and I've driven every paname

[44:13] the pan turbos etc etc this thing it's

[44:17] so incredible and they don't make it

[44:18] anymore you know right they got that's

[44:20] the gt43 and the gt53 now there was you

[44:23] could buy this car for like 9 seconds

[44:25] that's 5 or 630

[44:28] 6or more than CR GT yeah let's see

[44:32] 6 man so serious that is so serious but

[44:37] man is this is it cool um and yeah I

[44:40] guess since they don't make Mercedes has

[44:42] made it very clear although this is a 23

[44:44] so are they making it I thought they got

[44:45] rid of the gt63 23 is the last year I

[44:47] think so but I to be honest it's not a I

[44:51] think that that might that I think that

[44:53] that might be true though cuz it's true

[44:55] for the E63 and mother as we know amgs

[44:57] for reasons Mercedes never told us I

[45:00] legitimately wonder what the last minute

[45:01] will bring here because MSRP we we have

[45:03] in the gallery and it's 220 or something

[45:06] like that

[45:07] 220 um but these depreciate yeah they

[45:10] lost some value they lose value quickly

[45:12] they they um but man I want one every

[45:14] time I see it on the road I think to

[45:15] myself if I was more legit I would have

[45:17] one of these 222 was the if you were

[45:20] more legit you would have one of these I

[45:21] agree with that but I'm not and I have

[45:23] so I have an E450 allterrain the formats

[45:26] say all terrain on them but yes your use

[45:30] case I actually fully agree with you

[45:31] choice I think but if you were every

[45:34] time I see one of these I think to

[45:35] myself man don't focus on that you want

[45:37] to focus on being legit focus on getting

[45:38] to the point where you can use the

[45:39] career GT's luggage luggage right true

[45:42] leg that's my goal is to get to a

[45:43] financial position where I can use tell

[45:45] the people about the luggage CR GT comes

[45:47] with luggage how many pieces is iteven

[45:49] eight eight seven what do you think I

[45:51] have an incomplete set that is it might

[45:54] be nine it might also be seven to be

[45:56] honest I'm trying GT comes with luggage

[45:58] and uh I think there's two types of C GT

[46:01] owners those who can afford to use the

[46:03] luggage and those who can't and I can't

[46:05] I want to but it's

[46:06] $115,000 to replace the luggage and so

[46:09] if I like was banging it around at the

[46:11] airport I would damage it so it's in

[46:13] very nice little bags in my closet you

[46:16] can order it new from Porsche still for

[46:18] $155,000 that's wild but the fact you

[46:20] can still get it that's I want just the

[46:22] big bag cuz the the the handle on the

[46:24] big bag is the wood that matches the

[46:26] wood on the shifter and then the bag the

[46:28] leather matches the leather in your car

[46:30] now what you just said is what you hate

[46:32] about most Porsche people right there

[46:33] but what I want to do with it is I want

[46:35] to take the big bag and then use it and

[46:38] flex on everybody how much was just a

[46:40] big bag cost uh like four grand oh maybe

[46:43] that's worth it

[46:44] no you saying imagine you okay imagine

[46:47] you walk up to a airport you know

[46:51] security and I would think more highly

[46:53] the guy next to you has like a sunrust

[46:56] over theh shoulder bag because he's on

[46:58] his 86th plane this month you know and

[47:00] he's like right traveling for sunrust

[47:01] Sun Trust is that still comp okay thank

[47:04] you old Bank meanwhile I po out my

[47:08] career in GT ascott brown with a wood

[47:11] handle that would be legit that would be

[47:13] legit be pretty cool that be like oh Sun

[47:16] Trust huh is that still a

[47:20] company and it is right how do you know

[47:24] what when did you review this car do you

[47:26] bank3 um is it a bank even I think so

[47:30] yeah it's a financial institution um

[47:33] it's when it came out which was years

[47:34] ago and I loved it so much so legit that

[47:38] v8's one of the it's a shame that

[47:40] Mercedes is killing it off but that is

[47:41] one of that four twin turbo yeah I love

[47:43] that ASD Mar also has it so that's such

[47:45] a good I mean yes that's true it's in

[47:46] the db12 which I just filmed and which

[47:49] will go live

[47:50] soon DB1 are they killing off the 12

[47:54] yeah not the DB1 the db12 are they

[47:56] killing off the engine we have there's

[47:58] some conspiracy theories about this

[48:00] engine like what share them people you

[48:04] don't know about this are do you are you

[48:06] serious you don't know about this I

[48:08] vaguely remember them stopping like not

[48:10] selling any va8 ones in 2020 one day

[48:12] they just were like oh by the way we're

[48:14] not selling any V8 AMG CS for a while

[48:16] for production but probably some

[48:18] emissions Reon they didn't they never

[48:21] really kind of admitted why and so

[48:23] that's where the conspiracy theories

[48:24] start and end if go to the mercedesbenz

[48:26] online forums what would I learn I think

[48:28] that people assumed that it was due to

[48:33] production issues because Co was

[48:37] happening but there were cars at the

[48:40] Port so there are conspiracy theories oh

[48:44] stop there and you the viewer can take

[48:47] it from there figure out figure out what

[48:50] happened with

[48:51] that um all right should we go back to

[48:54] some questions while this the bidding

[48:55] continues sure bidding continues we're

[48:57] at 154 786 who's bidding do you know the

[49:00] biders you right now it's car driver

[49:03] 2023 Kenan give us some give us a

[49:05] question question us people have you

[49:08] asked questions did you ever get your

[49:10] own an all Road fipo did you ever get

[49:12] your all road back couple years ago I

[49:13] crushed Filippo's out all uh Filippo's

[49:15] Kia Spectra next to an out all Road he

[49:17] did not get either car very sadly what

[49:20] happened to the Kia we brought the tow

[49:23] truck driver brought to a junkyard to to

[49:24] a junkyard okay

[49:26] the the first time we did that we did it

[49:27] in a junkyard which was probably a

[49:28] better idea going forward the guy was

[49:30] good though the the tow truck driver was

[49:32] legit if you haven't watched his video

[49:33] go watch Doug's crushing of

[49:37] a who didn't get a release he may not

[49:40] have been in it but he definitely hit

[49:41] the cars with a sledgehammer yeah yes

[49:44] that's right and and he did and he

[49:46] deserved to um okay two questions right

[49:48] here that I want to answer number one

[49:49] from Tobe lone best spec panir the

[49:52] answer is Ken pull up that $12,000 panir

[49:56] that's the best spec what you can get

[49:58] for

[49:58] 12 actually that was weirdly nice a very

[50:02] odd spec but I was into it it was an odd

[50:04] spec yeah but it was 12 I don't care

[50:07] what spec it was what is that interior

[50:08] color metallic what is that interior

[50:10] color if can SC that over beige but why

[50:13] doesn't it just click won click I want

[50:14] to see the color look at that that that

[50:16] steering wheel a shiny steering wheel it

[50:18] looks like plastic but so hideous the

[50:20] steering wheel design the steering wheel

[50:22] design was so bad so when I worked for

[50:24] porch when the steering wheel was being

[50:25] made and we couldn't figure out a way I

[50:27] swear to you to get paddle shifters and

[50:30] buttons on the same steering wheel I'm

[50:33] not exaggerating it wasn't until 2013

[50:35] that Porsche finally was able to combine

[50:37] so when you got a car you could choose

[50:39] paddles but then it had no buttons so

[50:41] you could even adjust the volume or you

[50:44] could have this which those are not

[50:46] paddles they're like thumb things that

[50:48] you can push forward or backwards and

[50:51] but then you had this plastic in the

[50:52] center of the wheel the whole wheel was

[50:53] like this cheap looking plastic

[50:56] um I would have gotten of course this

[50:57] wheel because it fits with the 14inch

[50:59] alloy wheels that this car is equipped

[51:01] with I can't believe someone bought this

[51:03] for 12 Oh What A Deal wild um okay kenon

[51:08] go back to the questions I want to

[51:09] answer the question that everybody keeps

[51:10] asking me Doug can we get more Doug

[51:12] Impressions Doug C GT there's been a lot

[51:14] of talk about CR GT stop use order with

[51:16] many people and even Jalopnik bringing

[51:18] up you yes okay so there's a guy who

[51:19] writes for jop who hates me there's a

[51:21] lot of people in the industry who hate

[51:22] me by the way there's this guy who

[51:22] writes for jop who hates me and he wrote

[51:24] this article like Doug you're using your

[51:25] CR GT but you shouldn't be because

[51:26] you're going to die here's the deal

[51:28] there's a stop use order on the CR GT by

[51:31] the national highway traffic safety

[51:34] administration also known as Nitsa

[51:36] they've told me to they' told all CT

[51:38] owners stop use and if you look at the

[51:40] stop use order it's specifically say

[51:43] this is all true even though I'm

[51:44] presenting it humorously they say if you

[51:47] if you there's a joint on the suspension

[51:49] that could corrode and if it fails the

[51:51] suspension will fail and you will die

[51:53] that's what that's what the stop use

[51:54] order says more more or less but what it

[51:56] also says is inspect your joint and if

[51:59] your joint is okay you can keep driving

[52:02] it literally says don't use until you've

[52:03] had your joint inspected and then you

[52:05] can drive so I had my joint inspected by

[52:08] both Porsche dealer and rasi Motorworks

[52:11] who serviced the car and put a new

[52:12] suspension like two months ago four

[52:14] months ago and my joint has no corrosion

[52:16] so I'm fine and I can keep driving it

[52:18] all of the CR GT owners that I know

[52:20] they've had their joints inspected and

[52:22] they don't have any corrosion so we're

[52:23] driving them now in so so that's the

[52:26] answer to that yes I'm still driving the

[52:27] car my joint is fine Porsche apparently

[52:28] will have parts for this thing uh in a

[52:30] couple

[52:31] months in just in researching this I

[52:34] learned something interesting here we go

[52:38] this the nhtsa issues stop use orders

[52:40] when there's a serious problem with a

[52:42] car that could kill people it's so

[52:44] there's recalls there's Park in do not

[52:48] park inside and there's stop use there's

[52:51] three levels of nhts I didn't know any

[52:53] of this but there's so a recall is just

[52:55] like hey your steering wheel might fall

[52:56] off but it probably won't a don't park

[52:58] out inside is hey your car is going to

[53:01] catch on fire it probably will and then

[53:03] a stop Drive order a stop use order a

[53:05] stop Drive order is like hey you're

[53:08] going to die currently currently there

[53:11] are over 200 makes and models of cars

[53:14] subject to an nhtsa stop Drive

[53:17] order over 5 million cars now this guy

[53:20] at Jalopnik who hates me wrote the

[53:22] article he called me out he didn't

[53:24] mention all the other cars that are part

[53:25] of the stop Drive order

[53:28] including kenan's E39 M5 yes now before

[53:33] he gets carried away that is for the

[53:35] takot airbag recall which was the thing

[53:37] my car has been inspected for it it

[53:39] doesn't have it so much like your car it

[53:41] is safe to drive and so I drive it

[53:43] however I'm going to read you some of

[53:45] the other cars that are currently under

[53:47] a stop Drive order because you will die

[53:51] if you drive them at least according to

[53:53] that jnik article Kia tell ride you will

[53:55] die Nissan

[53:58] GTR die Volkswagen Atlas you will die

[54:01] Honda Odyssey you will die Al the only

[54:03] the O2 Honda Odyssey Honda CRV you will

[54:06] die K Optima death Chrysler 300 and

[54:09] every Dodge Charger in Chrysler 300

[54:11] which honestly even without the NIT

[54:13] order

[54:15] so but that's just the the stop drive

[54:18] because you will die and by the way the

[54:19] Mercedes r63 AMG sad yeah all 30

[54:24] people side order Ken and perk back up

[54:27] the E60 M5 is currently under a Park

[54:30] House side order I wonder what for I

[54:32] have to do more probably should probably

[54:35] I mean just add one more insult to

[54:36] injury with owning that

[54:38] car difficult to own it now it can also

[54:40] catch on fire Kia Sportage kiao Kia

[54:42] Stinger my Kia Stinger is under a park

[54:44] outside order that I used to have and

[54:45] still Porsche Panamera all these panamas

[54:48] that Panamera that that $112,000 PanAm

[54:50] you parked outside which is good if it

[54:53] it's $12,000 pan base wheels that thing

[54:55] is getting you do not want that to burn

[54:57] down your house Hyundai nexo the

[54:59] hydrogen car parked outside 2004 Sab 93

[55:03] but only the arc 2005 sub 97 but only

[55:07] the

[55:09] linear so to answer the question about

[55:11] the K GT stop drive I'm not particularly

[55:14] concerned about it however if I

[55:17] owned a 2006 Mazda B4000 which is also

[55:21] under the stop Drive order I would then

[55:23] maybe be question is Ford Ranger with

[55:25] the V6 also in that same truck yes but

[55:29] only the super cab SOG and by the way

[55:31] the 23 Ranger is also under a stop drive

[55:34] there is no Ranger you can safely drive

[55:36] right now have to imagine a significant

[55:38] number of the stop drive cars are Takata

[55:39] airbag I think there a lot of them are

[55:41] and I think a lot of people would say

[55:43] the suspension thing is scarier than the

[55:44] Takata airbag thing but I disagree I

[55:46] mean if you got in an accident those

[55:47] Takata airbags have killed a lot of

[55:48] people like seriously killed a lot of

[55:51] seriously killed but they have I mean

[55:52] because it could it could happen at any

[55:54] time you don't know when you're your

[55:55] airbag is going to deploy you're going

[55:55] to get an accident and it could be

[55:57] really dangerous but your card does not

[55:58] have you promise me I promise I have the

[56:00] paperwork to prove it oh damn you took

[56:02] the card to a BMW deal had to well of

[56:04] course it's a recall I know but you took

[56:06] your car to a BM the only time I've ever

[56:08] taken it to the deal for anything and

[56:10] even then they scratched the steering

[56:11] wheel trim I was Furious which binder is

[56:14] that record in uh that's in volume one

[56:17] oh by the way by the way I have it's not

[56:20] a joke that question was asked for the

[56:22] benefit of the people I have I have a

[56:25] conspiracy theory about this CR GT stop

[56:28] Drive order sure I love this conspiracy

[56:30] theory by the way the Carrera GTS it's

[56:34] been 20 years and they're now worth a

[56:36] lot more than they were when Porsche

[56:37] sold them and so they've gotten into the

[56:38] hands of some people that let's just say

[56:40] Porsche would like to know if that makes

[56:43] sense oh so he want to bring to a dealer

[56:45] I think Porsche wants to get a handle on

[56:47] who owns the cars right now so that they

[56:48] can get in touch with them as potential

[56:49] customers and I'm not saying that

[56:52] there's no corrosion but Porsche has

[56:53] announced they have not had a Single

[56:55] part fail they have not had a single

[56:57] injury or Fatality and they had not have

[56:59] a single incident from this so it's like

[57:01] interesting you're bringing all the cars

[57:02] back even though you haven't had any

[57:04] problems and so part of me is like I

[57:07] wonder if Porsche is just trying to a

[57:11] you know who owns these things now who

[57:12] can we put on our mailing list for the

[57:14] the electric Porsche hypercar which I'm

[57:16] sure they haven't sold any of just

[57:18] something to think about you know the

[57:19] real reason they're doing this why well

[57:21] they were sued massively for there

[57:24] hasn't been any s some engineer

[57:26] discovered it during like durability

[57:27] testing not a single car right but

[57:29] they've gone through ly of

[57:32] lawsuit that car so I think they're P

[57:35] also made a a very defined effort to

[57:38] keep those cars on the road the pitting

[57:40] issue with the the cams they Goodwill a

[57:42] lot of that not all of it they still

[57:44] have to pay for it but like they they

[57:45] really want the C they view it as

[57:46] something very important rightly so so

[57:49] there there's some there's some there's

[57:51] something behind that conspiracy the an

[57:53] interesting conspiracy thought no they

[57:56] wouldn't put it under a stop Drive order

[57:57] but I think unless they did no one would

[57:59] come and and do it do the recall I

[58:01] certainly would I might not do it anyway

[58:03] right this is still going this AMG GT

[58:05] this AMG gt36 gt63s is still going the

[58:09] question give us another question give

[58:11] should we take a quick break and talk

[58:12] about one of the cars that we have live

[58:13] right now that's not wait wait wait wait

[58:15] I want to get that question from Chris

[58:16] Stout how come Doug hates Alexus LS430

[58:18] are you insane who would hate the Lexus

[58:21] LS430 that's a fantastic automobile

[58:24] every Lexus LS is a fantastic

[58:27] automobile yeah y yeah they're just and

[58:29] they're Bargains pull up a sale or seven

[58:32] we sell for we sell three a week we sell

[58:35] three weeks for nothing one of our

[58:36] employees Andrew loves Lexus Alis so

[58:40] we've sold quite a few we truly sell so

[58:41] many of them I mean look at I mean yeah

[58:44] I personally think the 460 is the better

[58:45] deal because it's a lot more modern in

[58:47] terms of tech or whatever but I mean

[58:49] that 04 10 grand with the Ultra Luxury

[58:51] package you run forever it's comfortable

[58:54] also there was a period of time in like

[58:56] 2010 2020 excuse me where when LS 430s

[58:59] were really valuable and LS 400s were

[59:01] really valuable they've come back to

[59:03] reality it's slowed down okay here's an

[59:04] interesting concept for you here's a

[59:06] question the 23 grand for SE well some

[59:09] some of them the very late ones with low

[59:11] miles sell for some money here's a 430

[59:14] specifically here's a question for you

[59:15] what is the car you can spend the least

[59:17] amount of money on and still blend in in

[59:19] a rich neighborhood don't you think that

[59:22] A7 xt70

[59:25] ear early x7s are three grand we don't

[59:28] sell them because well they should that

[59:30] 05 LS430 is seven yeah that is a lot

[59:34] less X7 please we looked at them earlier

[59:36] but we'll look at them

[59:39] again s only nicer ones but go to by 95

[59:44] 13

[59:46] 11 79 we're sell LS430 for the we sell

[59:51] only nice ones uh but LS 430s we sell

[59:54] them all F was a nice neighborhood has

[59:55] to be a nice example keep in mind that

[59:57] that that 04 was 70,000 Mi was worth n

[1:00:01] imagine with 140 they reliable I think

[1:00:03] I'm right this kenon do you have an

[1:00:05] answer the correct answer of course the

[1:00:06] Chevy Express no van for you can pick

[1:00:09] one up for two grand on Craigslist and

[1:00:11] then you could drive it anywhere cuz

[1:00:12] people think you're living in California

[1:00:15] what was in a lot of rich neighborhoods

[1:00:16] was the 500e because it was so cheap you

[1:00:18] would use that to get down to the beach

[1:00:19] and like what the 500 the Mercedes 500

[1:00:23] and I was very confused we sold a 500

[1:00:25] yeah I've sold yeah we sold a couple of

[1:00:27] course Mercedes but yeah oh my God eight

[1:00:30] eight I know never has a $4,000 carbon

[1:00:33] worth they're worth money because they

[1:00:35] get exported to Europe because they were

[1:00:36] never offered over people want them to

[1:00:38] go around the someone in Arizona paid

[1:00:39] eight I consider buying it it's in prag

[1:00:41] now but then you know what I realized

[1:00:42] right I would have to get a toad

[1:00:45] here it won't make it from I was vely

[1:00:48] considering one that was in Orange

[1:00:49] County and he told me I looked I was

[1:00:51] like oh yeah I would have but if I can

[1:00:53] get it within the AAA 100 mile toe that

[1:00:56] I yeah that's a short distance toe I I H

[1:00:58] up with the guy yeah Kevin's got people

[1:01:00] sure but nonetheless um that's a

[1:01:04] California take on it but uh I agree the

[1:01:06] Lexus is probably the right choice there

[1:01:08] okay I said by the Volvo or super I'm

[1:01:10] correct the or maybe that PanAm the GT

[1:01:13] 633 has not unsold unfortunately unsold

[1:01:18] uh Kenan I want you to go to two more

[1:01:20] questions and then we will end our live

[1:01:22] stream we got to talk about at least one

[1:01:23] other car Kenan you can choose the

[1:01:26] questions but make them good okay we'll

[1:01:29] do one question then we'll talk about

[1:01:31] one car then we'll thank you okay make

[1:01:33] it good we could talk about the the 2024

[1:01:36] Vol V 60 T8 poolstar engineer God so

[1:01:39] many great questions here but kon's

[1:01:40] refusing them all okay continue continue

[1:01:42] there's so many great questions it's

[1:01:43] difficult to pick

[1:01:45] one um oh there are two questions about

[1:01:47] the Volvo V sexy post engineered what a

[1:01:49] good day do you want to take one of

[1:01:50] those Philly no you're choosing the

[1:01:53] question don't let him bully you into a

[1:01:54] V60 pstar engineered question well F

[1:01:57] from easy question you take that one I

[1:01:58] I'll do some more no no no no Ken kenon

[1:02:00] you've got this My overall thoughts on K

[1:02:03] cars um I love K cars I got to drive my

[1:02:05] friend's Auto Zam his A1 and it was so

[1:02:08] much fun because you could Redline it in

[1:02:09] first second and third and still only be

[1:02:11] doing 40 like it was just like it was

[1:02:13] not fast you felt like you were doing a

[1:02:15] million and it will just ever and the

[1:02:17] shifter in that I mean I guess because

[1:02:19] Maza knows how to make a shifter with

[1:02:20] the the MX5 and like it was just so good

[1:02:23] you drove it too and then why did you

[1:02:25] not like the a

[1:02:27] class squidgy you think K cars aren't

[1:02:31] squidgy that car was way more precise

[1:02:33] than class was the the sportiest

[1:02:36] probably safer in a I'll tell you it's

[1:02:37] not rolling over by can I tell you

[1:02:39] something that happened with the a class

[1:02:40] I sold it to Kevin we had Kevin on the

[1:02:41] program here yeah not yeah two short

[1:02:43] weeks ago a couple weeks ago I sold it

[1:02:45] to Kevin Kevin drove it home to Houston

[1:02:46] this is a great A- class

[1:02:48] story it's a great Finish Line of this

[1:02:50] car okay since Kevin has driven at home

[1:02:54] I'm on all these Facebook groups like

[1:02:55] foreign market car sightings and like

[1:02:57] weird cars and whatever a dozen people

[1:03:00] Ken you're going to love this story I

[1:03:01] promise a dozen people have been like I

[1:03:03] spotted this a class in Houston I

[1:03:05] spotted this a class in Houston and I've

[1:03:07] been getting P from all sorts of friends

[1:03:08] and people in all walks of life pictures

[1:03:10] of the a class in Houston and then I was

[1:03:12] on one of these Facebook groups and a

[1:03:14] dude is like hey I recognize where the a

[1:03:17] class is parked I did the AC unit right

[1:03:20] behind it a couple of years ago and I'm

[1:03:23] like what is

[1:03:24] what is this

[1:03:26] internet this guy is like an AC

[1:03:28] technician and recognizes the air

[1:03:30] conditioning it's not even people are

[1:03:32] recognizing the a class they're

[1:03:33] recognizing the air conditioning unit

[1:03:35] behind the a

[1:03:37] class that's the world we're in okay so

[1:03:40] Kenan you're going to say that you like

[1:03:41] kit cars yeah I think they're really

[1:03:43] cool and I I like there's really

[1:03:46] interesting variety and we see them more

[1:03:48] frequently over here cuz they're

[1:03:49] imported and I just every time I'm like

[1:03:51] damn that's cool like you know yeah we

[1:03:52] see we saw a lot on the site yeah crazy

[1:03:55] one right now with the Mid Engine pull

[1:03:57] up that one it's a Honda type in

[1:04:00] Honda type in Honda yeah the middle one

[1:04:02] that one pull screen look at this thing

[1:04:04] I don't know what this is a turbocharged

[1:04:07] mid-mounted two cylinder three-cylinder

[1:04:10] I was kidding when I said that before

[1:04:12] just not three cylinder four-wheel drive

[1:04:15] all the K cars are like turbo three

[1:04:16] cylinders with 650 CC's give but

[1:04:19] four-wheel drive this four-wheel drive

[1:04:21] Mid Engine four-wheel drive hatchback

[1:04:23] think about how many other cars you can

[1:04:24] say that about it's a tip though right

[1:04:26] yeah it's Auto what look at this weird

[1:04:28] thing are those air intakes on the side

[1:04:30] yeah where you got to get air to the

[1:04:33] engine car ever seen in my life they put

[1:04:35] five it's four-wheel drive yeah can I

[1:04:38] have this the the the person that wrote

[1:04:39] this lising was clearly freaking out can

[1:04:42] the company buy this I don't want to buy

[1:04:44] another car like this but I would like

[1:04:46] this car can the company buy it it is

[1:04:47] being sold by a great seller in

[1:04:49] California and it's no Reserve no

[1:04:50] Reserve can the company I'm I'm kind of

[1:04:52] not kidding we could do a lot with this

[1:04:53] we could take it Offroad we could take

[1:04:54] it on

[1:04:56] road

[1:04:58] no sorry guys kenon has ruled all right

[1:05:01] we're not doing it then um okay felipo

[1:05:03] what card did you want to talk about

[1:05:04] apparently not this one which is crazy

[1:05:06] uh the the Herz Mustang Herz Mustang

[1:05:08] kenon have you seen this uh no but fipo

[1:05:11] claims to want to talk about so go ahead

[1:05:12] fipo no this is cool as hell

[1:05:14] legitimately cool yeah it is but this is

[1:05:16] not a filipo car at all this is deep

[1:05:18] anti filipo so go ahead fipo this car is

[1:05:20] okay Shelby Shelby and Herz rent rent

[1:05:22] Mustangs you know Herz has these rent

[1:05:24] eraser Mustangs that you can go and rent

[1:05:26] like a Shelby Mustang go to Herz and you

[1:05:28] can rent a regular Mustang no problem I

[1:05:30] mean that's like all they have it's the

[1:05:31] main way I think Ford sells Mustangs

[1:05:33] right then they have the Shelby ones

[1:05:35] that are like the special Hertz package

[1:05:37] that like you can go and rent like an

[1:05:38] actually fast Mustang but this one is

[1:05:42] supercharged and apparently there have

[1:05:43] only been two

[1:05:44] supercharged uh look at that and it's

[1:05:47] also worth noting this was never rented

[1:05:49] out we're told by the the the sellers

[1:05:51] which is the herds Corporation is

[1:05:53] selling look they even put Herz on the

[1:05:55] oil fill oh this is Herz selling it Herz

[1:05:58] is actually selling this car it was

[1:06:00] never rented out they claim why did they

[1:06:02] get it they just got it and wanted to

[1:06:04] like hang out with it for Shelby and

[1:06:06] Herz build it together this was part of

[1:06:07] the like executive Fleet or something

[1:06:08] like that the cool part is apparently

[1:06:10] only two of these were made with

[1:06:11] superchargers and this is one of them it

[1:06:14] is leg legitimately cool it is

[1:06:16] legitimately cool look at that hood that

[1:06:19] thing has just got a lot of there's a

[1:06:20] lot of grunt under there I love these

[1:06:23] hurts when I see one cuz a they've been

[1:06:25] doing it for years so a lot of them have

[1:06:26] gotten into private hands and whenever I

[1:06:28] see one I it's it's a smile you have

[1:06:30] like the Herz logo on your car like a

[1:06:32] loser but then it's a Shelby must the

[1:06:34] coolest thing in the world there was a

[1:06:37] guy at Carson coffee I think it was two

[1:06:39] weeks ago who had a 60s Herz Mustang and

[1:06:42] a new Herz Mustang both black with the

[1:06:44] gold stripes and I was like well this is

[1:06:46] the one to do because this is like the

[1:06:48] coolest they do retain value and our

[1:06:50] collector items legitimately cuz this a

[1:06:53] GT500 yeah yeah that's very cool H if

[1:06:57] only we could stoop to such a level but

[1:06:59] kenon unfortunately will not buy an

[1:07:01] automatic car that's true Ken we could

[1:07:03] drag race dude me and you C GT against

[1:07:07] Hertz Mustang I'm I'm good plus the m240

[1:07:10] I can take your car

[1:07:12] anyway so you know I was looking up

[1:07:14] nering L times yesterday and the only

[1:07:18] car that's faster than my car that I

[1:07:20] find good is the Enzo okay scroll down

[1:07:24] time really stay in pre-recession Rich

[1:07:27] there scroll down time there was

[1:07:28] actually one more is that 550 oo a low

[1:07:31] mile Eclipse get out of here go back to

[1:07:33] the question one more question just look

[1:07:34] through the cards we have live we have a

[1:07:35] low mile eclip spider that's cool you

[1:07:38] were talking about baseball stitching

[1:07:39] earlier no this doesn't have it sorry

[1:07:41] Kon no it does baseball optic leather

[1:07:43] that's what it says oh something about

[1:07:45] the the I'm used to the contrasting

[1:07:47] color same go wait go back to that low

[1:07:49] mileage equips I was giving him crap but

[1:07:50] I want to look at it now go up up up see

[1:07:54] Eclipse K do Ken doesn't notice eclip

[1:07:56] 13,600 M 6speed manual V6 this is a

[1:07:59] dream car for who well this is the one

[1:08:02] this a V6 that was that was the optional

[1:08:04] power train it has a stick shift it's a

[1:08:07] convertible and it has no miles agreed

[1:08:10] it also has those three strikes on the

[1:08:11] door which I never

[1:08:13] understood no one did yeah nobody did

[1:08:16] and Kenan where was it built I don't I'm

[1:08:19] assuming Ohio so what you're going to

[1:08:20] say Illinois same illo only Indiana

[1:08:23] separ them I'm assuming Ohio you know

[1:08:26] what's you know what that factory is

[1:08:27] building now do you know the one in

[1:08:29] Illinois yeah Brant yeah okay all right

[1:08:33] one one last question and then we have

[1:08:34] to stop this ridiculous live

[1:08:36] stream all right one fipo you pick it

[1:08:39] okay oh God he's gonna scroll that

[1:08:44] fast all right I'm gonna could you

[1:08:46] please do a modern review of the Gen One

[1:08:48] manual Honda Insight for for those that

[1:08:50] don't know you're GNA choose yeah early

[1:08:52] Doug did a video with a Honda Insight um

[1:08:56] recall this video yeah I did a video

[1:08:58] with a first gen Honda Insight and the

[1:09:01] dude had modded it for uh hypermiling to

[1:09:04] the point where he had a hot air

[1:09:08] intake what did you learn in that

[1:09:10] experience um I hate hypermile gives me

[1:09:12] a

[1:09:14] headache because you're always thinking

[1:09:16] I don't like to be thinking much you

[1:09:18] know

[1:09:21] so so anyway it was great and and I

[1:09:23] would actually love to do a video of a

[1:09:25] of a of another first gen Insight um I'm

[1:09:27] waiting until one comes up on the site

[1:09:29] if you have a a great first gen Insight

[1:09:31] you want to sell on cars and bids and

[1:09:32] it's in Southern California kenon wait

[1:09:34] can you go back down there's one more

[1:09:36] question I want to do that I saw that I

[1:09:37] just am in love with that someone asked

[1:09:39] go scroll scroll scroll SC I believe in

[1:09:41] you you work that finger kenon okay

[1:09:45] Michael asks if Porsche had built a

[1:09:47] production version of the 989 concept

[1:09:49] would you be interested in purchasing

[1:09:50] one kenon can you please pull up a

[1:09:52] picture of my second favorite concept

[1:09:55] car ever manufactured of all time ever

[1:09:57] you don't have your model here uh okay

[1:09:59] this is the story I have a model of this

[1:10:01] car Porsche made a concept go go to the

[1:10:03] hag UK picture yeah yeah that one

[1:10:06] exactly Porsche made a this was a sedan

[1:10:09] that they made in the mid90s as a

[1:10:10] concept car they were going to do a

[1:10:11] sedan it was oh Porsche makes a sedan it

[1:10:14] was all scary and I'm obsessed with this

[1:10:16] car I've always thought it was really

[1:10:17] cool so I got a model of one and then uh

[1:10:20] last week I dropped it and it shattered

[1:10:22] which I don't even understand

[1:10:24] that's so sad it's it was a resin model

[1:10:27] that's but you know what I had it for

[1:10:28] years and I was happy about that I

[1:10:30] assume that you've looked on eBay for

[1:10:31] another one um yeah I had my I had my

[1:10:34] time this is why you have to stay away

[1:10:36] from my model cars you know what's

[1:10:38] notable it look like they they painted

[1:10:40] just the back some some rear door damage

[1:10:42] on this one what on this one fleo this

[1:10:45] is it I don't think there more than one

[1:10:47] but the the the the rear door looks a

[1:10:49] darker shade it does but only in the

[1:10:51] lower picture the upper picture it looks

[1:10:52] fine

[1:10:54] okay actually that's you're kind of

[1:10:55] right it's like Ken M5 all right there

[1:10:58] you go kenon do you have any parting

[1:10:59] thoughts for the audience today not not

[1:11:02] especially it it was it was lovely it

[1:11:04] was lovely to have you on again fipo

[1:11:05] it's thank you I'm glad that we did a

[1:11:07] show where it feels like none of us know

[1:11:08] each other or I think we have no

[1:11:09] chemistry as a group bipo good here's a

[1:11:12] question you must you must daily an

[1:11:14] electric truck which one an r1t kenon an

[1:11:19] electric truck I mean it's hard to argue

[1:11:20] with the r1t that's and the answer is an

[1:11:22] r1t good bye

[1:11:33] everyone