Spider-Man 5: Release Date & Fan Pitches — Full Breakdown & Transcript

[00:00] So, we're pretty sure Miles Morales will be in the next Spider-Man movie in 2029, but there is an equally important must-have for this movie that's gonna piss off a lot of you after you watch this video.

[00:12] Welcome back to New Rock Stars, I'm Eric Voss, and Spider-Man Brand New Day is breaking all kinds of box office records, on track to be the highest-grossing domestic movie of all time, currently sitting at $929 million domestic and $2.4 billion worldwide,

[00:26] easily the most profitable Spider-Man movie of all time. So you know that Sony, Marvel Studios, and the full cast and crew are going to be eager to make another one of these films. We are probably looking at 2029 as the earliest.

[00:38] And in this video, I'm going to break down the full timeline, everything we know about this next movie, the broader Spider-Man plan at Marvel Studios and Sony, and at the end of this video, what I think could be the biggest mistake they could make with the fifth one. So here's the deal.

[00:50] We know that after Spider-Man No Way Home came out, Tom Holland went to YouTube and other social accounts to see what the fans, like us, most wanted to see from the next Spider-Man movie. And doing that resulted in the most profitable Spider-Man movie of all time.

[01:02] So here we are, a month after Spider-Man Brand New Day came out. So, Tom, if you're watching on those breaks between dance training for that Fred Astaire movie you're making, here's where we think Spider-Man needs to go next. Before I get into this, the shirt I'm wearing is our Business Card Theoretical,

[01:16] but the fun is real shirt that Peter Parker wears in Spider-Man Brand New Day, available exclusively at our merch store, NerdRide.shop. We love it when our supporters wear our gear out in the world, post selfies, and tag us like this wonderful fan.

[01:28] Thank you so much. Okay, even before Spider-Man's brand new day was fully released and started breaking all of its box office records throughout August, director Destin Daniel Gretton indicated that he would love to come back to direct the next film, and executive producer Amy Pascal supported the idea.

[01:40] Then Ryan asked Destin Daniel Gretton, considering the success of this film and the way you've embedded your pathos into Spider-Man, did it take to say that you're interested in returning to do the next movie? And Gretton said, sure. Are you offering me a job, Destiny? And then Amy Pascal told SFX Magazine, referring to Destin Daniel Cretton,

[01:55] Destin has really blowed all our minds, and we hope that he will continue to make Spider-Man movies with us. The thing about Destin is he's an incredibly gifted acting director, but there is not one thing in this movie that doesn't come from emotion and heart and character.

[02:07] As much as we loved working with John, and he made a certain kind of movie, Destin has made something really special, too. And then, just this week, Robbie Ahuja, chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment, he's actually who Tom Rockman, the chair of the Studio Closer Pictures group and the effective studio head,

[02:21] Robbie is the one he reports to. Robbie spoke to Variety about Brand New Day's success and when the next Tom Holland movie might come. He said, there's so much appeal to the character of Peter Parker, so much appeal to the character, but he got to execute it right, and this movie really did.

[02:33] And when asked when the next one's coming out, he said, we don't have a date for it yet. A couple years, usually, but there's a Spider-Verse movie coming next year. Now, as part of the development timeline uncertainty is, Dustin Daniel Grant is next working on the Naruto movie for Lionsgate, which will be filming in the first half of 2027.

[02:49] This according to the Hollywood Reference Heat Vision newsletter of August 7th. ComicBook.com reported that Naruto will be making an appearance at New York Comic Con on October 10th, and we expect them to learn more about this movie, including its possible release date. We're assuming in 2028.

[03:01] While it generally only takes two to three months to shoot a movie on that kind of scale, Cretton would then have to spend the back half of 2027, and maybe even the first few months of 2028, overseeing post-production on that film. I would say that the soonest he could start working on the next Spider-Man movie would be in 2028.

[03:15] And if Sony sticks with him for a fifth Spider-Man movie, that would keep things open for a 2029 release date for Spider-Man 5. Tom Holland's known upcoming projects that would conflict with anything would include rumored appearances in the next two Avengers movies,

[03:29] and, of course, the Fred Astaire biopic he's working on. But yes, Sony is next focused on Spider-Man Beyond the Spider-Verse, which is coming June 13, 2027. That's going to be the conclusion to the animated Miles Morales trilogy, And it will not be until after that that Sony or Marvel Studios announced any plans for a live-action Miles Morales.

[03:46] Just a reminder, here's the Marvel film slate as we know it so far. Avengers Doomsday is coming December 18, 2026. Spider-Man Beyond the Spider-Verse is coming June 18, 2027. Avengers Secret Wars is coming December 17, 2027.

[03:58] Marvel Studios X-Men is coming May 5, 2028. Ghost Rider is coming July 28, 2028. And Black Panther 3 is coming December 15, 2028. And then, Disney has put placeholders on three 2029 dates for to-be-announced Marvel Studios films.

[04:12] May 4th, 2029, July 13th, 2029, and November 9th, 2029. A recent Sneak Peek podcast speculated what those could be, but it is totally possible that Marvel could change or release those dates.

[04:24] Similarly, they penciled in December 21st, 2029 for Avatar 4, but we still don't know yet if James Cameron is coming back to do a fourth movie of that series. If I had to put money on it right now, Marvel and Sony have their eyes on July 2029,

[04:36] for a big Spider-Man movie. I also have a hunch that Christopher Nolan might be eyeing specifically July 13th, 2029 for his next movie. Nolan is this industry most efficient filmmaker who has proven that he can turn his movies around every three years without any production delays and he specifically loves two weekends after the 4th of July for every one of his movies for release

[04:55] And when he wants to do something, everyone just kind of gets out of his way. But still, Universal, Sony, and Disney, and really every cinema in the world would love to recreate the perfect storm of conditions that we've had in summer 2026 and summer 2029

[05:07] to break the records that we've seen this summer. On July 22nd, Kevin Feige spoke to China's Watching Hollywood news outlet about the future of Miles Morales and really the future of several Spider-Man movies that are in the works. He was asked, Was Spider-Man Brand New Day about to be released?

[05:20] I have a question about Spider-Man, and I'll get straight to the point. Will there be a Spider-Man 5 in the Peter Parker series? And what's the current status of Miles Morales, my personal favorite Spider-Man? I recall you saying that a live-action Miles Morales project would have to wait until the Spider-Verse animated films ended.

[05:33] And Kevin Feige said, One of the fun things about this business is that we're always streaming and coming up with ideas. There's a line in Spider-Man No Way Home where Electro says, Somewhere There's Bound to Be a Black Spider-Man. Audiences around the world were thrilled because they knew it might be a hint at a Spider-Man Miles.

[05:48] The good news is, Sony has the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse series, which are very popular and excellent, and Beyond the Spider-Verse is coming out next year. But yes, we definitely have plans for a live-action Miles, and I think a live-action Spider-Man movie has this destiny,

[06:00] to add Miles sometime after the Spider-Verse series ends. We've been thinking and discussing more Spider-Man adventures, regardless of agreement or contract. My production partner, Amy Pascal, is already working on it, and we've had in-depth discussions about what the next two, three, four, and five Spider-Man movies might be about.

[06:18] Whoa. So, when it comes to Peter Parker's future with Miles Morales, Tom Holland around this time told our outlet, Hobby Consolas, before Brand New Day came out, this. I think at this point in time, we're being really open-minded about what the future looks like.

[06:30] I know that I have aspirations to bring Miles Morales into the universe. However that works out, you know, we've got a lot of work to do to bring that to life. I feel incredibly grateful for the way I was introduced into this world

[06:43] and that I was shepherded by RDJ. And I would love to kind of return that favor to the next generation of people that get the luxury of making these movies. So that is definitely something that I'm really working towards.

[06:56] And after Spider-Man Brand New Day came out, Tom Holland touched on the subject again with Josh Horowitz on a Happy, Sad, Confused podcast. You talked before about, like, we all want to see Miles at some point. Yeah, with Morales. Like, in your head, will you know when it's time to kind of pass the baton?

[07:10] And, like, have you imagined how you want that to go down? There's a whole plan that we have been working on for, I would say, since we finished Spider-Man No Way Home. And it's, like, laid out.

[07:22] It's going to change, for sure. But I have a really clear vision to the passing on of the button. And I think it's really exciting. I know I get really excited when we have these new things in Shadow Battle. But that is the thing that I want to do most in this character.

[07:35] Yeah. For sure. Do you think there's room for concurrent, like, for, you know, there was talk after No Way Home, a lot of different talk. Andrew could do the thing in his multiverse, et cetera, from a fan perspective, because you were a fan first. Yeah. Do you want to see that?

[07:47] Like, you want to see that. Are you kidding? I think what's been so fun over these last few years is that there's so many different Spider-Man mediums. Yeah. You know, we have Spider-Noir that came out a few weeks ago. We have My Version. We have, you know, the stuff that Sony's been doing.

[08:00] We have the animated movies that Sony made, which are just like the best Spider-Man movies that have ever been made. Yeah, unfortunately, I think Josh was asking about the possibility of concurrent Spider-Men to see if Tom Holland and Peter Parker could live on at the same time as the future Miles Morales,

[08:15] so that Peter wouldn't have to necessarily die for Miles to become Spider-Man. But Tom Holland just ended up taking the question in an elseworlds direction. In the past, Kevin Feige has said that they needed to wait until after Beyond the Spider-Verse came out in June 2027 before they could do anything with a live-action Miles Morales.

[08:28] But he has also teased other characters who could team up with Spider-Man. In July 2025, he told CBR that a Spider-Man-Human Torch team-up was on the table, saying, Many of us have also been pushing for a live-action Spider-Man movie

[08:47] where Vincent D'Onofrio's Wilson Fitz Kingpin could be the villain. D'Onofrio had said that there are some legal rights issues that prohibit Kingpin from being in a Spider-Man movie, but when asked about that by Josh Horowitz, Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal said that that was not necessarily true

[09:00] and that a deal for Kingpin could actually get worked out. When you go to the so-called street level, a lot of characters were talked about. Did you ever go down the road of Daredevil, Kingpin,

[09:12] from what Vincent has said, there were some rights issues on the Kingpin side? Right. They're not. They're not. I mean, they're things you navigate like everything else, but we did. We talked about all those. We had Daredevil in already.

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[10:35] from the movie filled with Easter eggs. Now, before you get on this guy, he did confirm that no AI was used in these drawings, that these were done by human artists. And it is true that certain human-drawn concept art styles just look like what AI tends to spit out

[10:47] because those AI models were trained on this style of art. And maybe we should just cool it with dogpiling on creatives when they come out and say that AI was not used in what they made. Anyway, I already broke down a lot of what's on this board in our more Easter eggs video,

[11:00] but now looking at it, we can see all the other villains in Peter Parker's New York. That includes, yes, the mugshot of Matt Gargan, with a specific comic book origin on the Cardi's holding, and on his big word, Michael Mando's actual birthday. But we also see a nod to Hammerhead,

[11:13] and we learn that Tombstone and Hammerhead's respected gang had a turf war in this New York. We see nods to Screwball, Frank Oliver, a.k.a. Kangaroo, Human Fly, Techno Hustler, The Enforcers, Man-mounted Marco, who's potentially dead

[11:27] Black Box, Hole Killer, and Dr. Jonas Harrow Also on this board we see that Peter suspected that MacDargan Scorpion Was being funded by J. Jonah Jameson And Peter thinking that all these villains would travel by subway train line We also see sightings for the new Avengers Tower of the MCU

[11:42] The offices of Murdoch and McDuffie from Daredevil Born Again Rolita's Bar, and the bar with no name The Neutral Ground Hangout Bar for the low-level supervillains from Spider-Man Comics And while Will Dixon was just a set decorator

[11:54] and Captain Jango Cretton doesn't have to use this exact world for a big Spider-Man movie, it shows that the overall intention of Brand New Day was to establish a busy city of Spider-Man villains that Peter spent these past four years dealing with. Now, Spider-Man Brand New Day left us with enough questions for now.

[12:07] What should we make of Ned's Spidey Tracker app in the post-credits scene and what it tells us about Spider-Man in Avengers Doomsday? Well, my thinking for now is that this tracker is pointing to a different Spider-Man arriving from another Earth and an incursion in Doomsday

[12:19] and that Tom Holland's Peter Parker will appear in Battleworld in Secret Wars in 2027. And maybe in that movie, we will finally see Tom Holland in a venom-sourced black suit, because this is going to be Marvel's one shot at a proper Secret Wars crossover event.

[12:32] But beyond Secret Wars, there still are other questions for Peter Parker and his community. Does Ned remember Peter Parker at the end of Brainy Day? Does MJ still love Peter? What will be Peter's relationship with Jean Grey and the other mutants that she's about to meet?

[12:45] Will Peter bear any responsibility for inventing mutant inhibitor technology? Will Peter ever connect with Miles Morales? or for that matter, Gwen Stacy, Cindy Moon, and other Spider characters in this universe? Where did Hulk go, and will Peter ever help him escape?

[12:58] Will we continue to see Peter Parker develop a partnership with Yelena Belova in the New Avengers lineup of the MCU after Secret Wars? Well, to begin to answer these questions, let's end this video with five pitches for Spider-Man 5, coming, we think, in July 2029.

[13:11] One, we need Miles Morales. I mean, he's the most famous Marvel character that we've never seen in live action, and we have waited long enough. And I think we need at least one movie where Peter and Miles are working together. Two, we need a proper spidey villain hierarchy.

[13:24] Since it sounds like Kingpin isn't really the legal rights no-go that he's been made out to be, we need to see Peter face the iconic Spider-Man villains from his world and his tradition, including Kingpin, Norman Osborn, and yes, Mr. Negative.

[13:37] I'm not saying we need all these characters in one movie. We don't need a full Sinister Six anytime soon. We really just need one villain who is scary to both Peter Parker and to Miles Morales. Three, in the mutant saga, we need some more X-Men tie-ins.

[13:49] No, not every Spider-Man movie needs to be an X-Men movie, but since Spider-Man Brand New Day, the most profitable Spider-Man movie of all time, introduced Jean Grey to the MCU, that established a standard and an expectation

[14:01] that future Spider-Man movie-going audiences will have. And the movie established Peter Parker as really the Oppenheimer of the mutant saga, the one who invented mutant inhibitor technology. And I think we need to see how Peter at least exists in an MCU

[14:13] where other mutants also exist. 4. We need Peter with the Fantastic Four. Kevin Feige has a Peter-Johnny Storm collab on his vision board and he's good. But also Marvel Studios needs Spider to elevate the status of the Fantastic Four in this universe And Tom Holland and Joseph Quinn just have such matching humor and vibes that I think fans will go nuts if we see them together

[14:31] And five, buckle up, folks. We need the real New York City. This is a personal plea from Eric Fawcett and the Rockstars to anyone who works at these studios making these decisions, bring Spider-Man back to New York City.

[14:45] Nothing against our friends in Glasgow and London where they shot the wonderful Spider-Man Brand New Day and the locals in those towns were so supportive and were grateful to you. And Tom Holland, we know that you're English, and we love the effort that you're putting into this character to embrace Peter's Queen's roots.

[15:00] But times are changing, folks, and if you're bringing Miles Morales into this movie, and if you're doing it right and casting an actor representative of the black and Puerto Rican community in Brooklyn, Disney and Sony also need to bring the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man back to the neighborhood.

[15:15] American audiences know when you shoot in a different city and say it's New York. Even if you've never been to New York, you know when it's the streets of another city. This is in the tradition of the Spider-Man character. Tobey Maguire's era of Spider-Man shot in New York.

[15:27] Andrew Garfield's era of Spider-Man shot in New York. Marvel Television's Daredevil born again is currently shooting in New York. The talent is in New York. The history is in New York. The culture is in New York. And if you don't support the industry here in America, that industry will suffer.

[15:42] And it might not last forever. And at that point, there will be no Hollywood exports to outsource to our friends across the pond. Look, I get it. Disney has outsourced much of its production to the U.K. to take advantage of generous tax incentives.

[15:54] But in recent weeks, one rare unifying cause that America's broken political system seems to be able to get behind is the proposed federal tax incentive to bring these productions and working class jobs back to America.

[16:07] And not just L.A. and New York, all 50 states. Unfortunately, I'm guessing any tax incentives that our Congress passes will not include above-the-line subsidies for the top-level talent, the director of the cast, the screenwriters, because I just don't think American voters are going to like the idea of giving tax relief to celebrities, whereas the UK culturally sees actors and directors as artists that they're more willing to support with their incentives that they're currently offering.

[16:30] But Sony and Disney maybe used some of that $929 million that North American audiences just gave you to make up the difference there. So I'm calling on these studios and every fan of Spider-Man, every fan of Miles, all of the American film industry,

[16:42] and every New York area political leader, take up this cause. I'm pleading this, even as an L.A. resident whose hometown is going to get nothing from doing this. I love New York City that much. Remember, there was a time.

[16:55] You mess with me, you mess with New York. You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us. I mean, come on, you know if they shoot that in London, the actor's going to do that weird thing where British actors try to do American accents, and they're like, you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.

[17:08] Look, my friends in the UK, you can have Gotham City. It's yours. Take it. But let us keep New York City, please? Deal? Comment down below. And a special thanks to one of our In Our Underground subscribers, Michael Horowitz,

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