Steroids vs Creatine: The Shocking Difference
40sThe dramatic comparison of muscle gain between creatine and steroids creates a high shock value and curiosity click.
▶ Play ClipThis video provides an in-depth, balanced analysis of anabolic steroid use, covering both the muscle-building benefits and the severe health risks. It features insights from medical experts and experienced users, explaining the physiological and psychological effects, and concludes with a call for natural training before considering enhancement.
Creatine adds about 2 lbs of muscle per year; steroids at a normal bodybuilding dose add about 20 lbs, depending on genetics and dosage.
The speaker's natural testosterone is 485 ng/dL (normal range). Enhanced bodybuilder Chase Irons has testosterone over 10,000 ng/dL, showing the extreme gap.
Testosterone esters are injected into muscle, where enzymes cleave the ester, releasing testosterone. It enters muscle cells and signals DNA to increase cell size.
Steroids cause the heart (especially left ventricle) to grow, reducing pumping efficiency and increasing heart failure risk.
Steroids can cause severe anxiety, dose- and compound-dependent. The speaker admits to having severe anxiety disorder from steroid use.
Steroid use can reduce IQ and accelerate brain aging. A 2020 study showed enhanced lifters had a significantly larger brain age gap compared to naturals.
Steroids worsen body dysmorphia; users often feel smaller after coming off, leading to a cycle of increased use.
Testosterone converts to DHT (hair loss) and estrogen (gynecomastia). Testicles shrink, potentially requiring lifelong testosterone replacement.
Steroids enlarge sebaceous glands, causing acne. Underground lab gear can cause abscesses requiring surgical drainage.
Steroids increase aggression, often manifesting as intrusive violent thoughts rather than physical acts.
Users experience puberty-like libido. Rapid strength gains outpace connective tissue adaptation, leading to injuries.
A 2024 study: 2.8% of steroid users died over 11 years vs. 1% of non-users, with average age 27 at start.
There are healthier and less healthy ways, but no safe way. Risk management includes low doses, blood work, and medical supervision.
Experts advise waiting until at least age 25 and after 10 years of natural training to allow full growth and brain development.
The speaker is conducting a year-long experiment with McMaster University to maximize natural muscle growth through perfect training and diet.
Steroids offer dramatic muscle gains but come with serious health risks including heart damage, psychological effects, and increased mortality. The speaker advocates for exhausting natural training potential before considering enhancement.
"Title is honest about steroids' effectiveness, but video thoroughly covers the downsides, making it more balanced than the title suggests."
How much extra muscle can you gain per year with creatine vs. steroids?
Creatine: about 2 lbs; steroids: about 20 lbs.
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What is the normal testosterone range for a natural male?
Around 485 ng/dL (middle of normal range).
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How do steroid injections work at the cellular level?
Testosterone ester is injected into muscle, enzymes cleave the ester, testosterone enters muscle cells and signals DNA to increase cell size.
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Why does steroid use increase heart failure risk?
Steroids cause the left ventricle to enlarge, reducing pumping efficiency.
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What psychological side effects are associated with steroids?
Severe anxiety, IQ reduction, and accelerated brain aging.
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What did a 2020 MRI study find about steroid users' brains?
Steroid users had a significantly larger brain age gap, meaning their brains looked older than their actual age.
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How do steroids affect body dysmorphia?
They worsen body dysmorphia; users often feel smaller after coming off, leading to a cycle of increased use.
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What causes hair loss and gynecomastia in steroid users?
Testosterone converts to DHT (hair loss) and estrogen (gynecomastia).
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What happens to testicles with steroid use?
They shrink to about half their size, and natural testosterone production shuts down, sometimes permanently.
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What is a common injection site complication from underground lab steroids?
Abscesses that require surgical drainage.
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What is the mortality rate difference in a 2024 study of steroid users vs. non-users?
2.8% of steroid users died vs. 1% of non-users over 11 years.
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What age do experts recommend before considering steroid use?
At least 25 years old, with 10 years of natural training.
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Muscle Gain Comparison
Quantifies the dramatic difference in muscle gain between creatine and steroids.
00:15Heart Enlargement Risk
Explains a less-known but critical cardiovascular side effect.
02:55IQ Reduction Evidence
Cites a study showing steroid use can lower IQ and accelerate brain aging.
04:34Increased Mortality Rate
Provides striking mortality statistics from a large-scale study.
09:30Age Recommendation
Offers a clear, expert-backed guideline for when to consider steroids.
12:01[00:02] work like really work that's probably irresponsible for me to say but if we're going to talk about the steroid epidemic we need to do it honestly here's a 3-we trend cycle update for you guys buying Trend in
[00:15] Thailand steroids build muscle way faster than something like creatine it's not even close if you started taking 5 gr of creatine every day for a year straight you'd add about 2 lbs of extra muscle if you started taking steroids at
[00:28] a normal bodybuilding dose you probably add about 20 lb of extra muscle that year but it could be more depending on your genetics and how much you take I'm a lifetime natural bodybuilder and these are my testosterone levels right now 485
[00:41] nanog per deciliter that's right around the middle of the normal range for someone my age this is bodybuilder Chase irons the world's most honest enhanced bodybuilder he also had blood work done this month where do you think his
[00:53] testosterone levels are maybe double mine or triple mine nope his levels are literally off the charts the test Max is out at 10,000 nanograms per deciliter and his testosterone was higher than that he openly admits to taking a lot of
[01:07] gear and this shows just how big the gap between natural and enhanced can get more people are taking steroids now than ever before why is that well I think influencers are opening up about their anabolic use in theory this honesty is a
[01:21] watching would be able to adjust their own expectations for their goals if favorite Fitness influencer isn't they they'd be able to lower their own standards and say okay well now I know that result isn't achievable for me but
[01:36] this kind of backfired a lot of people didn't lower their expectations they bigger problem is a lot of Fitness influencers are only ever partially transparent they say they're on steroids and they show their gains but they
[01:49] rarely if ever show any of the bad stuff so the only logical conclusion is that steroids are amazing but that's misleading so to help you understand exactly what happens to your body when you take steroids let's inject some
[02:02] juice together and see what happens next good and bad this is testosterone in of steroids that people take it's basically just a testosterone molecule with a carboxy group attached and dissolved in a vegetable oil so you can
[02:16] aromatic compound like benzo benzoate in here which prevents bacterial growth and when you inject the needle into your muscle a bubble of oil is squeezed in between the individual muscle fibers which spreads out and forms this
[02:30] elongated shape the testosterone molecules then slowly make their way several hours there enzymes called esterases cleave off that carboxy group and then the testosterone is carried by
[02:42] molecules called binding proteins to the muscle where it enters a single muscle cell now its job is to make that muscle cell bigger and if that's all that on them but there's a lot more that happens for one your heart is also a
[02:55] muscle so of course the same thing happens there the testosterone enters your your heart cells and tells your DNA to make your heart bigger having a big heart sounds like a good thing but it's really not when your heart grows
[03:07] especially one compartment called the left ventricle the extra bulk actually squeeze and relax this means your heart won't be able to pump blood as effectively which increases your risk of Hur failure now I want to say I'm not
[03:19] you want with your own body and I've got no problem with people who enhance but I want people to at least be aware of exactly what you're doing and the full effect it has good and bad for example not many people realize that steroids
[03:32] affect your brain to explain this I wanted to find someone with scientific education and firsthand experience with [Music]
[03:51] steroids [Music] hey can you hear me okay Mike yeah yeah yeah steroids can cause in many people really high levels of anxiety it's dose dependent it's also compound dependent
[04:06] things like Trend cause way more anxiety than other milder compounds like Primo so this is fun I haven't admitted this yet but it's not a particularly crazy validated empirically validated scientifically based scale for anxiety
[04:20] and actually currently right now um I have severe anxiety disorder probably the most severe type of anxiety disorder short of like panic disorder and uh that's actually right now as I as I talk that's what I have and uh another one
[04:34] also another psychological side effect some types of your intelligence degrade over time with steroid use this is tested in people currently using steroids most people this is totally unaware that steroids have that
[04:46] potential effect on IQ reduction and since IQ or just intelligence is such a global quality that you IA want to hang out and to most of it as much as he have that tracks with the science this 2020 one study took 3D MRI scans of the
[05:02] brains of over 200 weightlifters about half of them were Natty the other half lifters who took steroids had a significantly bigger brain age Gap that means when they looked at the natural brains their brain age matched their
[05:16] actual age but the brains of the enhanced lifters looked much older than they should look for some of their age their brains were aging faster than they is fascinating most people take steroids
[05:28] feel better about the way they look and I get it I want to look bigger and feel look bigger but they might not help you feel any better about the way you look dysmorphia worse that's because a lot of people think if they just start
[05:42] enhancing then they'll look how they want but just because you take gear seum and then when you eventually come off you'll quickly lose a good chunk of smaller than ever at that point it becomes near impossible not to go back
[05:56] on take even more steroids and the cycle continues again that wouldn't really be a problem if steroids didn't impact pretty much every system in your body but they do after you inject some of that testosterone is converted into a
[06:08] hormone called DHT which causes hair follicles to shrink faster this is why so many bodybuilders are bald in their 20s some testosterone is also converted into estrogen which can increase breast tissue formation in men leading to soft
[06:21] puffy nipples also known as gyno the most reliable way to get rid of gyno is surgery and while most people will take other drugs to prevent that conversion to estrogen almost every bodybuilder you know has had to deal with gyno at some
[06:33] your testicles know that there's more than enough testosterone to go around so they shrink to about 1/ half of their usual size the shrinkage quickly shuts down your body's natural ability to make its own testosterone which is why some
[06:46] for the rest of their life steroids also make sebaceous glands on your skin grow bigger which causes them to overproduce a sticky oily substance called a seun seun moisturizes and protects your skin in normal amounts but causes acne when
[07:00] combat this by taking other drugs for acne treatment but then they have their own side effects what would be a side effect that um most people like wouldn't be aware of until you've kind of done it
[07:15] few of those I can think of because anabolic steroids are mostly gotten in through underground Laboratories some of the gear you get is like Dam near farmer grade it goes in smooth as butter never does anything no inflammation
[07:30] some of the gear goes in there and uh boy does it uh does it mess you up and I have been personally hospitalized at least once for um a non infectant but insanely immune responsive abscess my quad was like half a foot out to one
[07:44] for abscesses the doctors have to cut your skin open they have to drain it and lastly the term Roid Rage but it's really aggression and it it very infrequently displays itself as actual violent acts but the thoughts you get on
[07:58] warm movies and stuff but if there's a warm movie playing in your head every gets a little old after a while but you have big muscles so I guess that's cool so that's tell the cookie crumbles let me get a second opinion on
[08:20] [Music] that hello hello yo yo a pretty common reported anecdote is feeling like you just hit puberty again for the first like 6 to 8 weeks it literally feels like you're 16 years old again is that a
[08:33] good thing or a bad thing it's probably not a good thing overall because you're not a good thing overall because you're now an adult with the like libido of a raging 16-year-old and you have responsibilities and things to keep up
[08:46] with and all you can think about is your perpetually erect penis basically which is not ideal um increased probability of injury this is sometimes talked about when your strength is skyrocketing your connective tissue cannot maintain the
[09:00] pace of your muscular strength and often this will lead to unnecessary injury in the gym because you know if your bench goes up 50 lbs in 6 weeks like you're not typically you're not going to like hold back you're going to keep pushing
[09:16] now you're going to you know go as far as it can take you but your connective tissue is not keeping up with that pace and this you'll see often bodybuilders that end up with uh brutal injuries it's to say how much steroids shorten your
[09:30] lifespan but they definitely do one 2024 paper followed over a th000 steroid users for 11 years with an average age of 27 during the same time frame they also followed 60,000 people of the same age but not on steroids 2.8% of the
[09:46] steroid users had died by the follow-up while only 1% of the non-steroid users which led the authors to note that the excess death rate in this young adult population is striking of course this depends on the dose that you're taking I
[09:59] think what a lot of people think is I'm not going to go crazy with the juice like I'm just going to do a little like sports trt or whatever like 1502 200 milligrams uh a week how do you feel about that I think the word trt is very
[10:12] conflated with like baby cycle essentially at this point when you're on trt even if it looks on paper like a normal total testosterone it is not representative of what you could do naturally so even if you're on like you
[10:24] know lowdose trt on paper you could Define it as such but it's certainly like you're essentially on Mini enhancement territory perpetually which I'm not to say that that's bad cuz that that's almost like the boat I fall into
[10:39] myself essentially it's just a matter of managing the risk of reward on it and if considerate of all of the factors that underly it would you say there is a healthy way to use steroids uh there so everything is the Spectrum in this case
[10:55] so they're healthier and less healthy ways and if he you want to use steroids going to do is start with very small amounts of them check your blood work do amounts of them check your blood work do various heart scans and and procedures
[11:09] does this for a living have a medical doctor on on retainer to make sure that or twice a year blood work you check your blood pressure all the time you take as little gear as will accomplish the effect you're interested in if you
[11:23] do that you can definitely do it healthier than not but you know there are ways to race a car and design a race car and design the suit and the crumble zones that make it safer but as soon as you pass 200 miles an hour safer is the
[11:35] term it's not safe it was never safe and so steroid use is less safe almost always than not taking steroids but you can make it very very safe or you can make it pretty roll the dice risky the real big decision is on how you approach
[11:48] real big decision is on how you approach it I notic people at like a really young age coming up to me and being like hey like I might hop on like you know I've been training for a while now like I teenagers do you have like a age in mind
[12:01] where it's like this is where you know you're old enough to even like consider it and before that just figure out your training and diet yeah there's a couple things that go into that one is sometimes of steroids CL uh close your
[12:15] growth plates early and uh that means they'll provide you for reaching an adul height some men don't stop growing until they're 22 years old and uh if you start taking it when you're 16 you're probably going to be a short King for much longer
[12:28] than you in well actually a shorter King than you ended up uh should have be become with your genetics and um you know to almost the same group of people to whom jacked uh lifestyle is important being as tall as possible is also
[12:41] important seemingly another thing is the brain develops and very very high level ways uh well into your late 20s and then subtle ways through your entire lifespan and so until about your mid 20s I would say there's a high probability that uh
[12:54] steroids will stunk your brain development to a significant extent and so I would say my cut off age generally as the conversation for responsible medically supervised steroid use for serious goals by serious individual
[13:08] begins at age 25 the answer I usually give is like get at least 10 years of natural training under your belt because you'll have figured out what works for your body and then from there you know you'll also by default be at least in
[13:22] don't start lifting until they're at least you know in their mid teens so you know it kind of ticks both of those boxes and so yeah I I always encourage people it's like have you been training hard and smart for 10 years if not then
[13:36] yet and I'll be honest there have been several moments in my own bodybuilding career when enhancing has been very tempting even now especially with the more and more Fitness influencers juicing and I think the standards have
[13:50] shifted so much since you know we started out like 6 years ago like I was in The Natty or not conversation as a physique that's like almost too good and now six years later it's like it's like you're you're the guy who doesn't lift
[14:03] but knows you know but instead of enhancing I've decided to do something reached my natural limit for muscle growth but have I actually am I actually at my Natty limit or have I just not been training as hard and smart as I
[14:18] but this year I'm doing an experiment with McMaster University here in Canada to see how much muscle it's possible for me to build naturally this deep into my lifting Journey if I do everything perfectly can I still make gains
[14:31] naturally so for this entire year I've been doing everything 100% perfectly in the gym I'm tracking every single set taking the last set of every exercise to True technical failure I'm not skipping any sets or any workouts I'm also
[14:44] committing 100% to my diet I haven't missed a single day tracking in macro factor and I've hit my calorie and protein goal every single day now I'll this year but I can say that I've definitely made some solid gains already
[14:57] camera but I've gotten more compliments about having put on some solid size at my local gym than I've gotten in years but similar to me what happens to a lot their Natty limit and only steroids will
[15:10] just not being as diligent with their training and their nutrition as they could be why not dial that up to 100% first then you can make that decision that's how I feel anyway and if you want to commit and join me on a year-long
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