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Everybody else from their perspective of them watching you, they're seeing your success. [music] But when I'm looking at you, bro, I see a lot of lonely nights, a lot of tears, a lot of sacrifice. [music] There's a lot going into what you're doing. >> Can I ask why you see that? Because I don't have any lonely nights and I don't cry very much. And so um do you think that's a projection of what you think I

am or how I am versus how I actually >> that's a projection of You're right, it is a projection cuz I don't know you. So that >> [laughter] >> that's me assuming and I'm sorry. And if you don't mind me asking, if I kind of want to take a travel back, how is it that you don't cry and you don't feel emotion towards this? >> It's not that I don't feel emotion. I think it's I mean,

I cried the day I got married. I would just say like I cried [music] less often than maybe other people cry. I don't see it necessarily as a deficit. What is the correct amount of crying? >> [music] >> So I get choked up for happy things, for gratitude is usually where I get very When I see pictures of like how I came up, I can get like [music] choked up because I know how much I suffered

at that point compared to now and how how hard I was pushing to get to here.