I Finally Caught Up with the LEGO Scandal

[00:00] I am finally all caught up with the

[00:02] latest in the Lego scandal. So,

[00:05] naturally want to yap about it. I want

[00:08] to bring you aboard the Magic School Bus

[00:10] here as we take a tour through the

[00:12] newest and the most comprehensive dive

[00:15] into this situation, which is found

[00:17] through Coffeezilla's video. I highly

[00:19] recommend you watch his full video here

[00:22] cuz he really gets into the weeds of it

[00:24] and shows everything. He bears it all.

[00:27] Let's let's the entire Lego scandal

[00:30] hanghog in its birthday suit. And I

[00:33] think it is an incredible job he's done.

[00:35] Per usual, Coffeezilla investigations I

[00:38] think are always just so high quality

[00:40] and just so well done. I want to be

[00:42] covering like a lot of the new

[00:43] information as well as also going over

[00:46] how we got here in the first place

[00:47] because now after so much has happened,

[00:50] a lot of people have forgotten what the

[00:52] actual facts are. People are, I think,

[00:54] getting confused or just really falling

[00:58] into the back rooms here when it comes

[01:00] to like this whole story. So, they're

[01:03] regurgitating phony baloney nonsense or

[01:06] even just outright myths, you know, or

[01:09] ghost stories. Reckless Ben's not even

[01:12] real. He's been dead for 15 years type

[01:14] [ __ ] And I think Coffeezilla does a

[01:16] good job of keeping everything extremely

[01:19] clean and all of it is real information,

[01:23] evidence, facts, just the straight up

[01:25] pudding of it.

[01:26] >> A $200,000 Lego collection went missing,

[01:29] causing a lot of you to ask me to find

[01:30] it. And after seeing the cops point guns

[01:32] at YouTubers, people get arrested and

[01:35] sued for 1.3 million, I decided enough

[01:37] was enough. Most people said the same

[01:39] thing after seeing how everything

[01:40] unfolded here with the behavior

[01:42] exhibited by the Bricks and Minifig side

[01:44] as well as the very shady behavior from

[01:47] the American Fork Police Department in

[01:48] the handling of this case. So, it's no

[01:51] surprise Coffeezilla also said no more

[01:53] Mr. Nice Guy and decided to get down and

[01:56] dirty and get to the bottom of this. A

[01:58] massive Star Wars collection was put on

[02:00] consignment at a Lego store called

[02:02] Bricks and Miniigs in Salem, Oregon.

[02:05] Consignment just means the owner, Brian

[02:07] Mancel, gave it to a store to sell and

[02:10] he was supposed to get a cut when it

[02:12] sold. The entire time he maintained

[02:14] ownership of the collection and a social

[02:17] media post estimated it to be worth

[02:19] about $200,000. But then on November

[02:22] 14th, 2024, everything went wrong. This

[02:25] was the night that Crystal and Ben

[02:27] Gorman, the prior franchise owners of

[02:29] the Salem store, got kicked out by this

[02:32] guy. That is Brandon Best. He and his

[02:35] partner Josh Johnson ran a sister store

[02:38] in Eugene, Oregon. And Brandon drove up

[02:41] that night to kick the Gormans out.

[02:42] Brandon and Josh would be taking over

[02:44] the franchise in Salem. And this is the

[02:47] exact moment the Legos go missing. As

[02:50] that store is getting handed over, the

[02:52] question is, is Brian's collection in

[02:55] it?

[02:55] >> A perfect succinct previously on Dragon

[02:58] Ball Z lore dump. That is exactly how

[03:02] everything happened and exactly what

[03:05] started this story to begin with where

[03:09] Brian Manzel had a very valuable

[03:11] collection go into this bricks and

[03:13] minifigs on consignment. the previous

[03:15] franchises get kicked out and there is a

[03:19] lot of questions around well where are

[03:24] the Legos now because Brian Mancel the

[03:26] owner of the Legos has not been

[03:28] compensated for all the Legos that he

[03:31] had brought there that presumably had

[03:33] sold as well and also now Bricks and

[03:37] Minigs is being like really combative

[03:39] and not super cooperative. So, just a

[03:41] lot of like big questions that until

[03:44] Coffeezilla's video hadn't really had

[03:46] any clear answers with strong supporting

[03:49] evidence and proof that really paints

[03:51] the entire picture clearly on the

[03:53] location of these missing Legos. So, the

[03:56] first thing Coffee looks at is the

[03:57] Bricks and Minifigs official press

[03:59] release where they claim that there is

[04:00] only like $2 to $5,000 worth of Legos

[04:03] left there, which is a huge discrepancy

[04:06] based on all of the reporting on how

[04:08] many Legos should have still been there.

[04:12] Coffee then looks at all of the suspects

[04:14] and even toys around with the

[04:15] possibility that this could be someone

[04:17] completely unrelated like thieves. Just

[04:21] regular old Joe Schmo burglars that came

[04:24] in to get their grubby paws on the One

[04:26] Piece here. This extremely valuable Star

[04:29] Wars collection. However, the previous

[04:32] owners, the Gormans, shut that idea

[04:34] down. They admit that they did have

[04:36] break-ins, but at no point were any of

[04:38] the Star Wars, Legos, any of Brian

[04:40] Mancel's collection uh subjected to

[04:43] that. They they were never taken during

[04:46] any of these break-ins. So, it wasn't

[04:48] thieves. That is something that gets

[04:50] ruled out pretty early on here. So, who

[04:52] who has the Legos? Where are they? Is,

[04:54] you know, does Smog have it and he's

[04:56] just sitting on it like his pile of

[04:57] gold? And like it's crazy how this [ __ ]

[04:59] can just vanish like that and no one in

[05:02] a very small tight group of suspects has

[05:06] any knowledge on where it is.

[05:07] Coffeezilla even plays around with one

[05:09] of the ideas that maybe Reckless Bins

[05:11] stole it because as you might recall the

[05:14] cops came in guns blazing when they

[05:16] arrested them because apparently they

[05:19] had got a tip that the YouTubers in this

[05:21] Airbnb had a conversation about their

[05:24] stolen Legos they have. And also, one of

[05:27] the owners even accused Ben of stealing

[05:29] the Legos when he was melting down,

[05:31] [ __ ] crashing out on a phone call

[05:33] saying, "Fuck you. You stole the Legos,

[05:35] bitch." So, Coffeezilla explores that

[05:38] idea and it obviously reaches a pretty

[05:41] comically dumb conclusion that there is

[05:44] no world where that happens. That is

[05:46] just barnacles. Because Reckless Bin

[05:50] literally couldn't steal them. It

[05:52] actually would have been impossible. He

[05:53] wasn't there that night. He had no

[05:54] connection to the uh previous franchise

[05:57] owners. Had no interaction with like the

[06:00] takeover or anything. He had no chance

[06:03] to even steal the Legos if that was part

[06:06] of a nefarious dubious plot he was

[06:08] cooking up. Genuinely, it is impossible

[06:10] for him to have been the one to have

[06:12] stolen the Legos. So then he Coffeezilla

[06:15] looks at Ammon.

[06:17] >> My name is Ammon McNe. I am the CEO of

[06:21] the Bricks and Minifigs brand. So, my

[06:23] name is Matt McNeff. I'm the COO of

[06:25] Bricks Minigs.

[06:26] >> The people you just saw are the McN

[06:28] brothers. They agreed to speak with me

[06:30] to try to clear their name.

[06:32] >> Boy howdy. You can probably already

[06:34] imagine how well this goes. Their

[06:36] defense not watertight. I am always so

[06:41] impressed by Coffeezilla's ability to

[06:43] get the star clowns of his

[06:45] investigations to speak directly to him.

[06:48] And every time without fail they make

[06:51] fools of themselves. It it it it keeps

[06:54] happening and I am thankful that it

[06:56] does. I am just always surprised. Now

[06:58] that being said, Ammon does make a

[07:00] strong point about offsite holding of

[07:03] Brian Mansel's collection, which is

[07:05] something Brian had reiterated on a

[07:07] podcast like a year ago about how his

[07:10] collection was being stored outside of

[07:13] that bricks and mini figs location,

[07:15] outside that facility. It was in, you

[07:17] know, [ __ ] secure black site or

[07:18] something for security, which I think is

[07:21] very odd. That is peculiar.

[07:24] Why? You know, they store the Legos in

[07:26] [ __ ] Fort Knox or something on

[07:28] consignment like it that is very weird

[07:31] if you ask me.

[07:32] >> Parts of it seem to go missing on

[07:34] November 14th.

[07:36] >> Well, and and and I guess the No,

[07:39] not not at all. I'm I'm gonna say, you

[07:41] know, like that that that is not

[07:43] accurate at all because

[07:45] >> So, you think that the collection was in

[07:46] the store at the time or elsewhere?

[07:49] >> Elsewhere. When when you look at Manel's

[07:51] own words that he reiterated to a

[07:54] podcast last year, he explicitly stated

[07:57] to another podcaster, "The sets were

[08:00] moved off site for security.

[08:02] >> The collection will not be stored on

[08:04] site after ours for security reasons,

[08:05] and after Sunday, the sets will be

[08:06] available for purchase, but stored

[08:08] elsewhere." Coffeezilla then brings this

[08:09] up directly to the previous owners, the

[08:12] Gormans, about the off-site storage of

[08:14] Brian Mansel's Star Wars Lego

[08:16] collection, asking them to pour a bit of

[08:18] milk on this cereal. What does this all

[08:21] mean? What does it look like? And I

[08:23] think the way they explain it does make

[08:26] more sense about why it was stored off

[08:29] site for a brief period of time. The way

[08:34] Ammon describes it makes it sound like

[08:35] it was some kind of indefinite thing

[08:37] where they had it buried underground,

[08:39] you know, in like a fallout shelter or

[08:41] something that they were, you know,

[08:43] squatting on there and it it seemed very

[08:45] underhanded and shady. But the way they

[08:48] describe it and like the reason behind

[08:50] it, that also makes sense.

[08:54] >> Locations, can you address what that is?

[08:56] Is that true? So, the off-site location

[09:00] and the the letter that they are re that

[09:03] corporate is referring to is the

[09:05] original press release that we released

[09:07] when we were launching the collection.

[09:09] In that press release, because we had

[09:11] had uh previous break-ins, I

[09:13] specifically included the location that

[09:16] after this weekend, those Legos would be

[09:18] sto

[09:20] stored offsite to deter any future

[09:22] thefts. They were briefly stored offsite

[09:25] after that launch weekend while I bought

[09:28] safes for the back room and then they

[09:30] were moved back into the store.

[09:32] >> Okay. So, for most of the time the the

[09:34] the sets were in the store after y'all

[09:37] got the safes in.

[09:39] >> Yeah,

[09:39] >> exactly.

[09:40] >> To me, that does pass the smell test. If

[09:42] they are having problems with thieves,

[09:44] you know, Lego City's under attack from

[09:47] Nire Dwells, well, now they have this

[09:49] extremely valuable collection that

[09:50] belongs to Brian Mancel's father. And in

[09:52] order to try and keep it safe and

[09:54] secure, they don't have any like safes

[09:56] or anything like that. So in the interim

[09:59] while they get those safes, they store

[10:01] it offsite.

[10:03] I get that. Like I I do understand that.

[10:07] And according to them, once they did get

[10:10] those saves, they did bring it back. So

[10:13] it was in the store for the majority of

[10:14] the time. It was only offsite for a

[10:16] little while. And one group in

[10:18] particular is pointing their finger at

[10:20] them very hard. It's the McNavs who say

[10:22] they were behind on payments.

[10:24] >> We started getting uh calls from the

[10:26] landlord letting us know that Crystal

[10:28] was uh behind on the lease payments at

[10:31] the location. We had also gotten a

[10:33] couple of uh notices from some of our

[10:35] vendor partners that bills had not been

[10:38] paid by the store. And so we felt pretty

[10:40] strongly that there was going to be a

[10:41] risk of her just, you know, like

[10:43] attempting to file bankruptcy, doing

[10:44] some of these other types of things

[10:45] which we've had franchises do in the

[10:47] past. And that's problematic. So that's

[10:49] why we sent him up there to take some

[10:50] video footage. So we need we needed to

[10:52] just be prepared if if we needed to do a

[10:54] hostile takeover.

[10:55] >> This is not new information from the

[10:58] bricks and minig side of things about

[11:00] pointing the finger at the Gormans. That

[11:03] they are responsible for all this

[11:05] hoopla. They are the actual bad guys

[11:08] here. They may not have the twirled

[11:10] mustache, but make no mistake, they're

[11:12] the villains. So he they are claiming

[11:15] that the Gormans were behind on

[11:16] payments. They they weren't doing their

[11:19] due diligence. So there was a fear that

[11:21] there might be bankruptcy, skipping

[11:22] town, this kind of thing. So they

[11:24] actually sent Brandon Best undercover

[11:27] incognito to shop around and take video

[11:31] to send to them. And this was before

[11:34] Brandon came in to kick them out. So

[11:36] they were already like investigating the

[11:39] Gorman's and this shop in particular.

[11:42] >> A video of the store condition in

[11:44] preparation for this handover. But at

[11:46] this point, Brandon does not announce

[11:47] himself to Crystal Gorman. Later though,

[11:50] on November 14th, once again, the same

[11:52] concern about the Gorman stealing or

[11:54] theft was expressed by the McNavs.

[11:57] Brandon was trying to make sure that

[11:58] they weren't taking things from the

[12:00] store. And so, he was kind of trying to

[12:01] make sure that he wasn't putting things,

[12:03] you know, like hiding things in the back

[12:04] and that he like, and while he was

[12:05] watching that, trying to make sure Ben

[12:07] wasn't grabbing stuff from the store and

[12:08] moving or doing anything along those

[12:09] lines cuz he just got a weird feeling

[12:11] about the whole transition. She took at

[12:13] least one, if not more than one, cart

[12:16] fulls of things out to her car with her

[12:18] coat draped over it.

[12:20] >> Agent 47 Brandon Best here is undercover

[12:23] and according to the McNS filming things

[12:25] to make sure everything's above board

[12:27] and that the Gormans aren't stealing

[12:29] things, trying to prevent theft and make

[12:32] sure everything's, you know, above board

[12:33] and as smooth a transition as possible

[12:35] with all the inventory intact without

[12:37] them, you know, making off with it like

[12:40] bandits. The other McNF that doesn't

[12:43] have a mustache even claims that she was

[12:47] taking cart fulls of items to her car

[12:50] under her coat.

[12:53] How How big is her coat? That'd be a

[12:55] [ __ ] massive coat, right? To put an

[12:57] entire cart full of items under it to

[13:00] try and hide it. What is Is that like a

[13:03] XXXL

[13:07] raincoat or something? Like what the

[13:09] [ __ ] Is it like that old thing of like

[13:11] three kids in a trench coat to buy

[13:13] tickets to a PG-13 movie or some [ __ ]

[13:16] Like, how big of a code are we talking

[13:18] here to be able to do that? That's a

[13:21] pretty bold claim. And they follow this

[13:23] up by saying that she actually has a

[13:25] history of retail theft. Like she has a

[13:28] record of like stealing. So, she is

[13:32] someone that they don't trust and they

[13:33] are trying to put doubt into their

[13:36] credibility in the first place here. So,

[13:38] it's something that Coffeezilla explores

[13:39] with the Gormans directly about that.

[13:42] And she does confirm, yeah, that

[13:43] happened in 1999

[13:46] when she was 19 and pregnant, according

[13:49] to her. And the big thing here is that

[13:53] she allegedly told them about that,

[13:57] which is something McNeff claims they

[14:00] had no clue about.

[14:02] >> Kind of their side. But at every turn, I

[14:04] hope you understand, I'm getting

[14:05] contradictory stories down to if the

[14:08] McNeffs knew about her history in the

[14:09] first place.

[14:10] >> Like they're bringing up something that

[14:12] I told them about.

[14:14] >> Wait, wait, wait. You told them

[14:16] >> told them. They asked me.

[14:19] >> They said they had no idea. They said if

[14:21] if we knew, we would have never hired

[14:22] her.

[14:23] >> Cuz we would not have hired her had we

[14:25] known this. I told them I had a record

[14:28] from when I was 18 that was a family

[14:30] issue that and didn't go into all of the

[14:33] details, but they were like, "That's so

[14:36] long ago. We're going to hire you based

[14:38] on who you are now."

[14:39] >> Now, she says that when she told them

[14:41] about it, it was something that happened

[14:42] when she was 18, whereas apparently it

[14:46] actually happened when she was 19. Not

[14:47] that it matters here in the context of

[14:49] this, but it illustrates the

[14:52] contradictions that are being met at

[14:54] every single stage of this investigation

[14:57] in this case overall from the very

[15:00] beginning. And that's something I've

[15:00] said a lot. A lot of what comes out of

[15:02] Bricks and Minifigs has so many

[15:04] contradictions that are easily

[15:07] accessible to just the the naked eye,

[15:10] the the peepers here. You can just see

[15:13] that a lot of what they have said is

[15:16] contradicted by other evidence out

[15:18] there. And this is just another one of

[15:19] those examples here because according to

[15:22] Crystal, she let them know like off rip

[15:25] that you know when she was 18 or I guess

[15:28] 19, she did have this thing on her

[15:32] record here. And after making them

[15:35] aware, they said that was so long ago,

[15:37] which it was [ __ ] two decades ago,

[15:40] that it doesn't bother them and that

[15:41] they're, you know, still willing to do

[15:43] business with her. But McNeff is now

[15:45] turning around and saying they had no

[15:46] idea. And if they did know, they would

[15:48] have never done business with her. You

[15:50] know, this huge blemish on her record.

[15:52] She is a scoundrel. Did you know that?

[15:54] Did you know that she has a retail theft

[15:56] charge? Did you know that? We can't

[15:58] trust her. She's a [ __ ] heinous evil

[16:00] monster. That kind of thing. when

[16:03] apparently from the very beginning

[16:05] according to her she let them know about

[16:07] that. Also, I would think as a big

[16:10] corporation, keep in mind Bricks and

[16:12] Minifigs we have to remember is a huge

[16:14] corporation. They have a team of

[16:16] lawyers. I would imagine they do a

[16:18] vetting process for people that they go

[16:20] into business with because I imagine

[16:22] they would want to know if a new

[16:24] franchisee is like a felon who has a

[16:27] history of stealing and [ __ ] like that.

[16:29] So, there's no doubt in my mind that

[16:31] before they even approved her as a

[16:34] franchisee, they would have seen this on

[16:37] her record, this uh retail theft charge,

[16:42] and they still did business with her.

[16:43] Like, I just find it hard to believe

[16:45] that they wouldn't have known about that

[16:47] because I have to imagine there is a

[16:48] thorough process that goes into being a

[16:51] franchisee owner with Bricks and

[16:52] Minifigs. It's a huge corporation. That

[16:54] kind of standard procedure like

[16:56] background checks that would come up. I

[16:58] feel like it's very unlikely that Bricks

[17:02] and Minifigs had no idea about that

[17:05] before starting to do business with her.

[17:07] And if they really had no idea about it,

[17:09] that just goes to show you that they're

[17:10] not really a very well-managed company

[17:13] if they're uh neglecting like one of the

[17:16] most standard steps in business, which

[17:19] is just doing a background check.

[17:21] >> After a lot of convincing, both sides

[17:22] agreed to show me the photos, corporate

[17:24] and the Gormans. In fact, I scheduled

[17:26] the calls to do this an hour apart from

[17:28] each other. But let's remember their

[17:30] positions for a second. The Gorman say

[17:32] whatever was left unsold of Brian's

[17:34] collection that was in that store

[17:36] spreadsheet was in Salem store the night

[17:39] of November 14th. Then you have

[17:41] corporate side. They say whatever was

[17:43] left that night was maybe $2 to $5,000

[17:45] of Legos. The rest was either stolen by

[17:47] thieves, the Gormans, or held off site.

[17:49] It was not in that store. And on both

[17:51] sides, there's a lot to lose here,

[17:53] right? This is where it gets really

[17:55] juicy. And now we do get like hard

[17:58] picture proof. And Coffeezilla also

[18:01] recognizes the effect this has on the

[18:04] others here, the new franchises that

[18:06] came in. This is the most important

[18:08] component so far in the video about the

[18:12] location of these sets and also who is

[18:17] being truthful. Who is actually

[18:19] providing real evidence to confirm their

[18:22] account of things and disproving the

[18:24] other. That is a very crucial thing to

[18:29] finally have definitive light shined on.

[18:33] >> You'd agree?

[18:33] >> There's there's a good amount of Lego on

[18:35] hand. Um, this this isn't what I would

[18:38] say is a well stocked bricks and mini

[18:40] figs, but it's not um it's not terrible.

[18:44] It's it's I would say a little below

[18:46] average as far as overall stock. So, now

[18:48] let's go to November 14th. Can you still

[18:50] see my screen?

[18:51] >> Yes, sir.

[18:52] >> Okay. So, November 14th, we haven't put

[18:56] this is the first time we've shown this

[18:58] publicly. We've been waiting for our

[19:00] attorneys to give us the approval to

[19:01] say, "Hey, this is okay now to share in

[19:03] this capacity." So, okay. Uh, this we

[19:06] we'll go through these pictures. This is

[19:09] what Josh saw when or not Josh, Brandon

[19:11] saw. Uh, he took pictures of everything

[19:13] in the store. All the inventory in the

[19:15] store. This is what the shelves looked

[19:17] like

[19:18] compared to what you just saw a moment

[19:20] ago.

[19:23] Okay. So, I'm seeing a lot less. Just to

[19:25] state the obvious, go back a little bit.

[19:26] >> Yeah.

[19:27] >> I'm seeing like way less. So, yeah. the

[19:29] pictures I was being shown on November

[19:30] 14th, those shelves looked emptier than

[19:33] they did on the day of October 24th. But

[19:35] to be fair to the Gormans, they

[19:37] addressed the empty shelves themselves.

[19:39] >> So, starting with the McN side of things

[19:41] here, they have these videos from

[19:43] Brandon where he was recording the

[19:44] inside of that location. And in the

[19:46] first video that Coffeezilla is getting

[19:48] walked through with the McNS, it does

[19:50] seem like the shelves are far more full.

[19:53] He does say that it's not like a well

[19:55] stocked bricks and mini figs. It's a

[19:57] little below average, but it's very

[19:58] clearly more full than that video from

[20:01] November 14th, which is the big day. The

[20:04] shelves are noticeably emptier on that

[20:06] day in that video.

[20:08] >> As we get to the very end of this video

[20:11] in particular right here, you'll see

[20:13] that empty space right here. So, this is

[20:15] the retired and certified set section

[20:19] that we have to keep separate from the

[20:22] new and boxed current sets being sold by

[20:24] LEGO. All those empty spaces up there

[20:27] were the sets that we had on display

[20:30] during the day from Brian's collection

[20:32] that every night when the store closed,

[20:34] we pulled off and put back into the safe

[20:36] and then put back out in the morning.

[20:38] >> So when they say, "See, there's empty

[20:39] space on the shelves." Yeah, cuz we put

[20:41] them in safes at night to keep them safe

[20:43] >> cuz we have giant windows.

[20:44] >> Yeah, it's an explanation that kind of

[20:46] makes sense given the history of

[20:48] burglary now.

[20:49] >> Yeah, that is an explanation that makes

[20:51] a lot of sense. Breakins happen all the

[20:54] time. Like look at card shops in

[20:56] particular. There's a break-in every

[20:58] hour at a card shop somewhere. Right now

[21:00] there's someone probably getting their

[21:02] glass broken in and all their Pokemon

[21:04] cards stolen right out of [ __ ]

[21:05] display. So they have had a problem with

[21:08] breakins in the past. So it makes sense

[21:10] that they have it on display during the

[21:11] day when there's people there and then

[21:14] they take it down at night to put in the

[21:16] safes. So that way thieves can't just

[21:18] see these valuable Legos sitting out

[21:20] there and decide to just throw a brick

[21:22] through the through the window. But when

[21:24] you have these two videos, it's very

[21:26] easy to spin a narrative that also makes

[21:29] sense. Look, these shelves were full on

[21:32] this day, but on the most important day,

[21:35] the November 14th date, they are

[21:37] noticeably emptier. That must mean foul

[21:40] play. That must indicate that they are

[21:42] stealing these sets. That's the

[21:44] insinuation they're making with those

[21:46] videos. And yeah, you could make that

[21:49] argument, but when you actually hear

[21:51] from the franchisee owners here, the

[21:54] Gormans, their explanation

[21:56] make sense on why those shelves would be

[21:58] emptier.

[21:59] >> My understanding is that he took

[22:00] pictures of everything and all those

[22:03] photos I showed you of the Star Wars

[22:05] were all the photos were all was

[22:07] literally all the Star Wars inventory in

[22:09] the store.

[22:09] >> Yeah, the McNe say all of the photos

[22:12] should be with Brandon of all the Star

[22:14] Wars items. And to be fair to them, they

[22:16] showed me a lot more pictures and even

[22:18] showed me a spreadsheet of all the Star

[22:19] Wars sets in the store the night Brandon

[22:21] took it over. And it valued to about

[22:24] like5 to$10,000 or so. But then I had to

[22:27] ask, sorry, here's another kind of set.

[22:30] >> Okay.

[22:32] >> Do you think y'all have all of these?

[22:36] >> Very likely.

[22:37] >> Okay.

[22:40] Again, I'd be surprised if we didn't.

[22:42] >> But then I couldn't help myself. I

[22:44] started to bring up some of Crystal's

[22:45] photos to see if they matched up. Have

[22:48] you seen this before?

[22:52] >> Uh, not that I recall.

[22:54] >> So, do you see that?

[22:55] >> Yep.

[22:56] >> So, do you see it's in like some kind of

[22:58] like a safe thing? I don't know if you

[23:00] can see the sides there. Looks like a

[23:02] bookshelf to me, but sure.

[23:04] >> A bookshelf. Bro, be real. We're looking

[23:07] at it. What bookshelf has hinges on the

[23:10] left side of it? presumably to close. I

[23:14] the not any bookshelves I'm aware of.

[23:16] Maybe it's not, you know, the craziest

[23:19] high most highquality safe, you know,

[23:21] with the giant [ __ ] wheel on it like

[23:23] the vault door you'd find at a bank, but

[23:25] that does definitely appear to be a safe

[23:28] that those Legos are in there in

[23:30] Crystal's pictures. So anyway, uh McNeff

[23:34] is now saying and even sent a sheet to

[23:38] Coffeezilla about what was left in the

[23:40] store from the collection valued at

[23:42] around like5 to $10,000. And while going

[23:45] through pictures, Coffeezilla starts

[23:48] showing some of Crystal's pictures as

[23:50] well.

[23:50] >> Okay. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the

[23:52] important thing is making sure that all

[23:54] of these are in the inventory for Manel.

[23:57] >> Sure.

[23:59] Sure. That's home.

[24:02] >> 75041.

[24:07] >> Yep. The vulture droid.

[24:11] >> 75169.

[24:16] >> 169. I'm not seeing. So, there may be.

[24:18] Okay. So, there's one that is not on our

[24:20] list.

[24:21] >> Let's try this

[24:24] 10240.

[24:25] >> Okay. Nope. Not seeing that one either.

[24:27] What about 9493?

[24:32] I don't see that one either. So maybe

[24:34] those were locked at the time and

[24:35] Brandon did not get those pictures.

[24:37] >> You already tried pissing on my head and

[24:39] calling it rain when you looked at a

[24:41] safe and said it looked like a

[24:42] bookshelf. So, it's hard to extend the

[24:45] courtesy that this is like an honest

[24:47] mistake about these sets that are in

[24:51] Crystal's photographs not appearing in

[24:54] their records of the inventory there.

[24:58] Like, I can't say for sure if it's by

[25:01] design, like they're omitted uh on

[25:04] purpose, maliciously or not, but it is

[25:07] hard to extend any level of benefit of

[25:09] the doubt here. They should be there.

[25:12] And the fact they're not is alarming and

[25:14] it's something Bricks and Minigs should

[25:16] take seriously. He kind of like brushes

[25:18] past it a little bit, glosses over it

[25:20] and like, okay, well maybe this, but

[25:22] like that shouldn't be the response.

[25:24] Like it should be something that you

[25:25] want to immediately look into a bit more

[25:27] on how this could even happen, this

[25:29] mistake, if it is a mistake. All right,

[25:32] that's kind of a problem because the

[25:34] Gorman's had over 200 photos of this

[25:36] store. I definitely knew looking at

[25:38] these photos, there's a lot more Legos

[25:41] in the Gorman's photos by quite a lot

[25:44] that Brandon's photos just didn't show.

[25:46] But corporate didn't really see it that

[25:47] way.

[25:48] >> But still, in in the grand scheme of

[25:52] things, we're not talking again 10 times

[25:54] the amount of of sets here.

[25:56] >> I don't know. I I haven't shown all the

[25:59] the photos yet. I don't know exactly how

[26:00] much.

[26:01] >> If there's a calculable figure that we

[26:03] can look at and say, "Great, this is

[26:05] what was there." I promise you it's not

[26:08] $100,000 worth of of Lego. And so

[26:11] where's the rest of it? He got me. I

[26:14] don't know.

[26:14] >> Maybe I'm a little too in my head about

[26:16] this this U-Haul story. You don't think

[26:18] it could have been some U-Haul thing?

[26:21] There's no way. So to me, I believe the

[26:24] Gormans provided significantly more hard

[26:27] evidence with apparently a couple

[26:30] hundred photos showing significantly

[26:32] more Lego sets in the store than

[26:36] Brandon's documentation had and what

[26:39] Bricks and Minigs is touting. I I don't

[26:43] think that's something to just gloss

[26:45] over here. I I don't know if Mc Maf

[26:47] realizes how bad that looks for them.

[26:50] It's hard to chalk that up as some

[26:53] honest to god mistake or or something

[26:56] like that. Especially when at every turn

[26:59] McNeff is trying to like minimize the

[27:03] amount of Legos with this discrepancy.

[27:05] Like okay, even if there was some

[27:07] unaccounted for and some uh wackiness

[27:12] documentation got cattywampus, it's not

[27:14] a hundred thousand. It's not 10 times.

[27:17] Yeah, you might have a couple hundred

[27:18] photos, but it's not like that much.

[27:21] It's just it's very uh fishy behavior.

[27:25] And speaking of fishy, it's about to get

[27:28] real weird with the U-Haul story.

[27:30] >> So, when Brandon came to the store that

[27:33] night, uh he was driving a U-Haul truck.

[27:35] >> Now, in typical fashion, this was

[27:37] immediately disputed.

[27:39] >> Brandon showed up to to the Salem store

[27:42] in a rental car. uh when when he came to

[27:44] to get the keys from Crystal, he was

[27:46] there in a rental car, not in a U-Haul.

[27:47] >> But the big reason it mattered to me was

[27:49] because I was actually called by an ex

[27:52] employee of the Bricks and Miniix store

[27:55] in Eugene, Oregon. Remember, that's the

[27:57] one that Brandon and Josh owned. And he

[28:00] told me something very interesting.

[28:02] >> I'm a former employee started in 2024,

[28:06] and I was working under the old um

[28:08] manager Brian. He sold the store to a

[28:11] random best Josh. Josh like, "Oh,

[28:15] Crystal um stole Lego sets and bolted

[28:19] out of the country."

[28:20] >> Who says that?

[28:22] >> Brandon. Brandon Best told us

[28:26] when he was um dropping off all the Lego

[28:28] sets to us that night. They used like it

[28:31] was a bunch of used Lego sets that were

[28:34] like Saran Graph. They had Star Wars

[28:36] City. I used just a lot of stuff. It was

[28:39] like a mediumsiz U-Haul truck.

[28:41] >> Wait, wait. They brought a U-Haul truck.

[28:45] >> Yeah, from Salem. To Eugene

[28:47] >> and to Eugene and it had a bunch of Star

[28:49] Wars sets on it.

[28:51] >> Yes, Star Wars sets and everything. A

[28:53] bunch of new stuff, too. So, Coffeezilla

[28:56] was contacted by a former employee at

[28:58] the Eugene location, which was owned by

[28:59] Brandon and Josh, and he talks about how

[29:02] he watched the Reckless Bin YouTube

[29:04] video, and a lot of like what they were

[29:06] experiencing with on their own started

[29:08] to make sense. And then even talks about

[29:11] how that U-Haul has been brought up by

[29:15] the Gormans actually arrived at the

[29:17] Eugene store full of Lego sets, Saran

[29:20] Wrap Lego sets, Star Wars Lego sets.

[29:24] This is a huge big claim here and this

[29:28] is a real former employee. Coffeezilla

[29:30] did his due diligence from everything I

[29:32] can tell to confirm this really is an

[29:34] employee who worked where he said he

[29:36] worked which was at that Eugene location

[29:38] with Brandon and Josh as the owners. And

[29:41] he is talking about how they had a

[29:43] U-Haul that brought these Lego sets. And

[29:46] uh they were saying like that facility

[29:47] was closed down, you know, [ __ ] was like

[29:49] haunted. Crystal big thumbs down. Boo.

[29:53] Crystal. We don't like Crystal. Boo. She

[29:54] was like stealing Legos and stuff. And

[29:56] then he arrives on his chariot here, his

[29:58] U-Haul with these [ __ ] Star Wars

[30:00] sets.

[30:02] That's That's big. That is colossal. And

[30:04] Bricks and Minifigs McN there. You can

[30:06] hear him still denying the existence of

[30:08] that U-Haul in the first place. It is

[30:11] heavily disputed, saying he showed up in

[30:13] a rental vehicle, not a U-Haul.

[30:16] Explicitly saying not a U-Haul. But the

[30:17] Gormans are saying it's a U-Haul. A

[30:20] former employee at the Eugene location

[30:22] is saying it was a U-Haul.

[30:25] I mean, it sounded like it was a [ __ ]

[30:27] U-Haul to me. If it walks like a duck,

[30:29] talks like a duck, probably a [ __ ]

[30:31] U-Haul. Like, if you were to look at the

[30:33] the footage, uh the ring cameras, all

[30:36] that stuff, you you won't see a U-Haul

[30:38] sitting anywhere in the the parking lot.

[30:40] >> So, after in hearing all of this, I

[30:41] realize, look, I just got to find the

[30:43] evidence. So, I start sifting through

[30:44] these photos I have, right? I realize I

[30:45] have a parking lot photo. I check it. No

[30:48] U-Haul, just a red truck out there. I

[30:50] check another photo where you could see

[30:51] the window, but the problem is it's

[30:53] night outside, so you can't see. And so

[30:55] I'm looking at everything I can and

[30:57] there's just nothing, you know? And I

[30:59] have this alternate angle. I'm looking

[31:01] at that and then wait a minute. Zoom in

[31:05] on that photo. Bring up the brightness

[31:07] of this photo a little bit. And

[31:10] my gosh, there's a U-Haul in the parking

[31:14] lot right outside of the store the night

[31:17] of November 14th, 2024. I mean, is this

[31:20] not Coffeezilla just reaching over to

[31:22] deliver the scholars mate here on that

[31:24] claim of no U-Haul? They now have

[31:26] irrefutable evidence of that U-Haul's

[31:29] presence there on that night, which

[31:32] confirms the Gorman's account of things

[31:34] and disproves the bricks and minifig

[31:36] side of things. Now, there was that

[31:38] truck that was there in like the the

[31:40] footage that Coffeezilla had access to,

[31:43] but there is also a U-Haul there. So,

[31:46] does Bricks and Minigs just deny the

[31:49] U-Haul in light of irrefutable proof and

[31:52] try and stick to the story that we now

[31:54] know is inaccurate about no U-Hauls

[31:57] being there, only a truck? Or do they

[31:59] try and feain ignorance like, "Oh, we

[32:01] were only made aware of that like rental

[32:03] truck. We had no clue about this U-Haul

[32:06] scheme here.

[32:08] >> This is something that Matt said he had

[32:10] seen footage of and it couldn't be true.

[32:13] >> And again, I I believe I have seen

[32:14] footage from that night that shows

[32:16] clearly out into the parking lot and

[32:18] there's no U-Haul. After seeing this, I

[32:20] said, I really have to make a call. And

[32:22] that's when the story changed. So, last

[32:24] night I talked with Matt McN. I brought

[32:27] up this question of the U-Haul. He told

[32:30] me emphatically there was no U-Haul.

[32:32] Y'all came to me this morning. You said,

[32:33] "Hey, we looked into it. There actually

[32:35] was a U-Haul there that night. Can you

[32:36] clear up what that's about?"

[32:38] >> So, so, so there's there's actually two

[32:40] different things that are going on here

[32:41] just to help you understand.

[32:42] >> Bro, I hate the way Ammon talks. I hate

[32:44] the way he conducts himself. His clothes

[32:46] whack. His mustache whack. This guy

[32:48] sucks, man. Like, let me just help you

[32:50] understand, actually. So, yeah, there's

[32:53] a U-Haul there. We know you we know you

[32:55] found it. We We know you found the the

[32:57] evidence of the U-Haul. We're going to

[32:58] have to change our story a little bit.

[33:00] We're going to have to tighten the

[33:01] screws a little bit here and try and get

[33:03] something cohesive here cuz yeah, that

[33:06] doesn't look good cuz we really were

[33:08] strongly saying that there's no U-Haul.

[33:11] So, here's the spin. Here's the scoop.

[33:14] And I don't want to torture you with

[33:16] more than necessary Ammon words that he

[33:19] drils out. He's basically now spinning

[33:22] this this web here that actually this is

[33:26] a big misunderstanding. Uh there's

[33:28] there's a odd conflation that's going on

[33:31] here about like the U-Haul. Like it's

[33:33] not actually there for like this store's

[33:36] inventory. There was a disgruntled

[33:37] former employee. Uh and there was a a

[33:40] bit of uh mishandling of inventory. So

[33:43] now the U-Haul is there for that

[33:45] something totally separate and and you

[33:47] know now things are wires getting

[33:49] crossed. Everyone's all over the place.

[33:50] But yeah, does that clear it up? Does

[33:52] that make sense? It really just doesn't

[33:54] make any sense. He's saying that that

[33:57] collection that he had brought to the

[33:59] Eugene store was from that other problem

[34:02] that they had and the employees just

[34:06] misremembering the timeline. Like those

[34:08] Star Wars sets that he had in Matt

[34:10] U-Haul didn't come from, you know, this

[34:12] one. It was from something totally

[34:14] separate that he was also just doing it

[34:15] like the same time as him investigating

[34:18] the Salem store. He was doing them both.

[34:21] He wears many hats. Jack of all trades.

[34:23] He's very talented. So yeah, he was

[34:25] doing that and then when he came back on

[34:29] the 14th, uh he then starts talking

[34:32] about like oh he had like a rental truck

[34:34] and he tried to attach a camper to it

[34:36] but it just wasn't rated for that. So he

[34:38] thought a crap like this is this is the

[34:41] story that McNe is telling. Like it is

[34:44] it is quite a tale. It is it is like a

[34:47] you know an epic up there with the Iliad

[34:49] I'd say but like it's not really making

[34:51] a ton of sense to me

[34:53] >> in anticipation like meaning like a

[34:55] camper trailer in anticipation of the

[34:57] the potential hostile takeover

[34:58] previously.

[34:59] >> Is that why he had a U-Haul? Is that the

[35:01] reason he had a U-Haul was for this

[35:03] camper or what's going on with the

[35:05] >> So, so, so then what happens is he takes

[35:07] his his uh rental vehicle truck and he

[35:10] tries to connect the the trailer uh the

[35:13] camping trailer to that truck and and

[35:15] it's not rated for that particular

[35:17] weight and he realized, a crap. He

[35:20] called around and found that that U-Haul

[35:22] uh had a rating for, you know, like one

[35:25] of their box trucks. And so he grabbed

[35:26] that, went and got it at 10:00 a.m. on

[35:29] the 14th. And at uh and so he then went

[35:32] and hooked that trailer up um to the

[35:36] camping trailer to a U-Haul, drove that

[35:39] trailer down to another location where

[35:42] he could set up the camping trailer in

[35:43] Salem. Uh dropped off the camper

[35:45] trailer, and then he arrived in a U-Haul

[35:48] to the Salem store. And then um

[35:51] >> what a story, Mark. [ __ ] me, bro. the

[35:54] amount of and then it's like he's

[35:56] writing fanfiction live. I'm taking a

[35:59] peek inside the writer room here. Like

[36:02] he's talking about all of this as if he

[36:04] was like a force ghost on this guy's

[36:06] shoulders like watching him do all of

[36:08] it. Where is this even coming from? Like

[36:10] this who who would ever do this? By the

[36:14] way, the story he is telling, I can't

[36:16] fathom a human being doing. Like, it's

[36:20] just so messy and sloppy and convoluted.

[36:24] Like, I don't I just don't see a world

[36:27] where this would be a path that someone

[36:29] actually takes. Now, I'll go ahead and

[36:32] spoil that the U-Haul plotline doesn't

[36:35] get us anywhere closer to finding the

[36:37] Legos, but I do think it is important

[36:39] because it illustrates their willingness

[36:41] to change their story or just outright

[36:44] tell a fib. So, Coffeezilla got

[36:47] documentation of that U-Haul. He got

[36:50] photos from Brandon of that night and

[36:52] there's so much discrepancy there that

[36:54] it literally would be impossible for the

[36:57] story to have gone the way that Ammon is

[37:00] claiming it did. The timing is just not

[37:02] feasible. It literally cannot happen the

[37:04] way in which it's described. So, even

[37:06] though the U-Haul doesn't help us solve

[37:08] the mystery Lego here, like Coffeezilla

[37:10] get to the bottom of it, it just shows

[37:12] to me the willingness for Bricks and

[37:14] Minigs to just start spinning their

[37:16] [ __ ] wheels about basically anything.

[37:19] and just a complete refusal to like even

[37:22] stick to their own story and their own

[37:25] facts. Like it's constantly changing

[37:27] with them and there's always like

[37:28] contradictions that seem to pop up. It

[37:31] is just very uh shady I would say. In

[37:35] particular with Ammon's behavior, this

[37:38] guy has a humiliation fetish

[37:40] potentially. He loves to put his face on

[37:43] claims that have contradictory evidence

[37:46] publicly available. So like in this one

[37:48] he tells this whole story this this

[37:51] novel that he writes here about like the

[37:54] U-Haul to explain it even after the

[37:56] other McNF firmly sternly with no

[37:59] riddles no guesswork no wiggle room

[38:02] saying there is no U-Haul that's wrong

[38:05] now proven that that wasn't true there

[38:07] is a U-Haul there and now Ammon's got

[38:09] this massive story cooked up about it

[38:12] and the story just like there's no way

[38:14] it can be true based on everything

[38:16] Coffeezilla was able to together from

[38:18] Brandon like the actual documentation.

[38:20] So like I don't think there's any world

[38:22] where that's true or reality yet he's

[38:26] proudly making that claim even when it's

[38:29] like evidence contradicts it like

[38:32] provably contradicts it. I that's why

[38:35] it's just so peculiar to me. Like they

[38:37] keep saying these things and can't even

[38:38] stick to their own story.

[38:40] >> First from corporate I got the point of

[38:42] sale records from the Salem store from

[38:44] 2023 to 2024. And secondly, from Crystal

[38:47] Gorman, I got her internal records of

[38:49] Brian's inventory of what was sold or

[38:52] not in order to pay him and keep track

[38:54] of prices. Now, Coffeezilla gets access

[38:57] to some of the bookkeeping here, and he

[38:59] talks about how the original claim of

[39:01] this being a $200,000 LEGO collection is

[39:04] just not true. It's highly inaccurate.

[39:07] It was used as marketing buzz online.

[39:10] Yes. like from Bricks and Minifigs

[39:12] themselves as their marketing material,

[39:14] like the $200,000 collection, that kind

[39:15] of thing. And that became, you know, the

[39:18] most eye-catching part of this whole

[39:20] story is how much the Legos are worth.

[39:23] But according to all of what is

[39:26] available here, the actual estimated

[39:28] value is calculated to be around

[39:30] $107,000 according to what Coffeezilla

[39:33] has access to. still an extremely

[39:35] valuable Lego collection, but that claim

[39:37] is just not accurate about it being

[39:40] 200K. It is still extremely valuable and

[39:43] that is still an extreme amount of

[39:44] money, but it is important to get things

[39:47] correct and the correct amount is around

[39:50] $100,000 $107,000,

[39:52] which as Coffeezilla mentions is

[39:54] somewhat nebulous because they're not

[39:56] all sold. So, you can't really say

[39:58] exactly what the value is cuz they

[40:00] haven't been paid for. So maybe it could

[40:02] be a little more, maybe a little less,

[40:03] but it is not fair to say it's $200,000.

[40:06] He then talks to Ben about it, about how

[40:08] surprised Ben is, cuz he'd been led to

[40:10] believe it's 200K this whole time. He

[40:12] then talks to the Gormans about it and

[40:14] Crystal talks about how she initially

[40:16] arrived at that number for the sake of

[40:18] like the press release to be eye

[40:20] grabbing. But in her spreadsheet she

[40:23] mention or she calculates it around like

[40:26] the 85 to 120k ballpark range not 200.

[40:32] That was her arriving there off

[40:34] basically like eyeballing it and then

[40:36] putting out the press release about this

[40:37] huge collection that is very valuable

[40:39] that they got their hands on. But as she

[40:41] actually went through the inventory in

[40:42] the spreadsheet, it was closer to that

[40:44] like 100k mark.

[40:46] >> It's about $107,000. Now, between 2023

[40:49] and 2024, the Gorman's record sales of

[40:52] about $24,000 of Brian's collection in

[40:55] their inventory tracking list. And of

[40:57] those sales, Brian was entitled to about

[40:59] 65 to 70% of it. He was paid $17,000,

[41:03] which roughly tracks with that. Which

[41:06] means on November 14th, the big night,

[41:08] the remaining amount of Brian's

[41:10] collection that should have been in

[41:12] there is about $82,000.

[41:14] >> And this is why having the correct

[41:16] number is important. And it's something

[41:17] Coffeezilla mentions. If you're going to

[41:19] be trying to locate the missing Legos,

[41:21] you have to know what you're even

[41:23] looking for and how much you're looking

[41:25] for here. cuz if it's a $200,000

[41:28] collection, there is a lot more out

[41:31] there in the [ __ ] wild out there in

[41:33] the rain and cold, you know, needing to

[41:35] be found. But now that we have the

[41:37] accurate numbers, you can start to more

[41:39] fine-tune the investigation to locate

[41:41] them. So, on the the big night here, uh,

[41:45] you know, on on judgment day, $82,000

[41:49] worth of Legos should have been in that

[41:52] store, which is a really big deal

[41:54] because Bricks and Minifigs officially

[41:56] stated that there is only like 2 to

[41:57] 5,000 that they located there. And

[42:00] McNeff even said that there's only like

[42:03] 11 to 15k total Star Wars in that

[42:07] location.

[42:08] How is that possible? We have the

[42:10] bookkeeping. There should have been

[42:12] $82,000 worth of Star Wars Lego sets

[42:15] from Brian Mansel's collection there.

[42:17] But according to Bricks and Minifigs and

[42:19] according to uh uh MC Mcnasty McNeff, I

[42:24] don't know why I blanked on his name so

[42:26] hard. Uh [ __ ] Mc Cheeseburger here.

[42:29] According to him, there was only 11 to

[42:32] 15K in total Star Wars there. So that's

[42:35] just that's not adding up. Where is it?

[42:37] So, I went through Crystal's photos

[42:39] myself, which she shared with me, and

[42:41] hired people to go through and hand tag

[42:44] the Star Wars Legos that were in these

[42:46] photos. We looked through over 200 plus

[42:50] photos, multiple videos, and matched

[42:52] what we saw with Brian's collection. In

[42:55] the end, I ended up with about $21,000

[42:59] of Legos matching Brian's collection

[43:01] that can be proven to be in the store on

[43:04] the night of November 14th. Now, to

[43:07] state the obvious, that's about three to

[43:09] five times what corporate estimated, at

[43:11] least on their press release. Now, yes,

[43:14] there are inherent errors in these

[43:16] estimates. Maybe we picked up some Lego

[43:18] that matched Brian's collection, but

[43:20] wasn't Brian's. But even though this is

[43:23] a bigger number than corporate said, I

[43:25] have to admit, even with pretty generous

[43:28] assumptions being made, there's still a

[43:30] huge gap of about $61,000 here that I

[43:33] just couldn't find. I think that was a

[43:35] really clever way of doing things here.

[43:37] He has so many photos from the Gormans

[43:39] here and he hired a team to go through

[43:43] manually old natural and tag them and so

[43:47] that way they could find the valuation

[43:50] of what is provably in the store on that

[43:53] night and there is still a large amount

[43:56] unaccounted for. Like yes, of course,

[43:58] give or take, there's some error there

[43:59] and how it was gathered and like what

[44:00] the actual value might be, which he

[44:02] points out. But even still, that is such

[44:04] a good thing to work off of there

[44:06] because now you have provable amount of

[44:09] what's in the store and what is still

[44:10] just completely lost in the ether, you

[44:12] know, [ __ ] ghosts out there. But then

[44:15] I learned Brian had made a special side

[44:17] deal with M&R Productions, who had

[44:20] recently purchased some Legos from him.

[44:23] And this is where it starts to get

[44:24] messy. So, these are the pictures that

[44:26] M&R Productions sent me looking at the

[44:29] Lego that Brian sold him. This was stuff

[44:32] reportedly in storage. And it's

[44:33] interesting because of an early

[44:35] inventory list which had a column called

[44:38] location that Crystal used. And it

[44:41] listed a lot of the Star Wars items as

[44:43] being located in what they called

[44:45] storage. Now, previously I was told that

[44:47] all of the stuff in storage was put back

[44:49] in the store, but there's a bunch that's

[44:52] on this list that I can't find in the

[44:54] store that seem to appear in these

[44:56] pictures. Now, I've been assured, by the

[44:58] way, that most of these Legos were not

[45:01] part of the inventory spreadsheet. They

[45:03] were never given to Bricks and Miniigs.

[45:04] This is a separate part of the

[45:06] collection. But I did a check and 100%

[45:10] of the items that match the Brian

[45:13] collection inventory just so happen to

[45:15] be listed with a location of storage. So

[45:19] this starts to make things incredibly

[45:21] fuzzy and I'm inclined to believe that a

[45:23] lot of these are part of that same

[45:25] inventory list.

[45:26] >> Yeah, but I think that's a very natural

[45:27] conclusion to draw from that. And this

[45:29] is a really big thing that I had never

[45:32] heard anything about. This uh side deal

[45:35] on the Star Wars Legos that were sold to

[45:40] someone else totally outside of all of

[45:42] this commotion, but those sets still

[45:45] appear in that spreadsheet, but they're

[45:48] marked as located in storage, which as

[45:50] Coffee points out, storage is something

[45:53] according to the Gormans that they had

[45:55] offsite, but would bring back to the

[45:57] store and put in the safes. So like it

[45:59] was in their possession still like

[46:03] securely locked down. But how could that

[46:05] possibly be true if they have been sold

[46:07] to somebody else and there are now

[46:10] pictures to confirm it and it seems like

[46:13] it is all part of that collection. It

[46:16] shouldn't be appearing in the

[46:17] bookkeeping at all in that case. That is

[46:20] super messy. And according to

[46:21] Coffeezilla's estimates, it comes out to

[46:23] about $15,000 in Lego that isn't

[46:27] missing. We can see where it went. It

[46:30] was sold to somebody else, but in the

[46:33] inventory sheet is still marked in

[46:36] storage, which I believe is very

[46:38] inaccurate to say, and that is quite

[46:41] shady.

[46:42] >> Anything. And by the way, before we

[46:43] continue, yes, this was all a lot of

[46:46] work. If you want to, please support us

[46:47] on Patreon. That's how this show gets

[46:49] made.

[46:50] >> I wanted to leave that plug in here

[46:51] because Coffeezilla's work truly is

[46:53] incredible, and I highly recommend

[46:55] everyone go support him in any way you

[46:57] can. his his investigations, I think,

[46:59] are among the best, not only on YouTube,

[47:02] but just in general. He really does get

[47:05] to the bottom of his [ __ ] stories in

[47:07] a way that is very rare these days. And

[47:09] I'm always appreciative of his work.

[47:11] Now, the next thing he's looking at is

[47:13] the point of sales records. And in

[47:15] there, he notices that according to

[47:17] this $51,000

[47:20] worth of Brian Mansel's collection was

[47:22] sold. And according to Crystal herself

[47:26] back in like an earlier talk with

[47:28] Coffee, she even says like $50,000 of

[47:30] the collection was sold. But Brian's

[47:34] only been paid $17,000. What sense does

[47:36] that make? He should be paid more. He is

[47:40] owed more. So where is that? Where has

[47:44] that gone? Who came in and shook that

[47:47] lunch money out of him?

[47:48] >> Hey, it was about 50 something,000.

[47:50] Yeah,

[47:51] >> but Brian was only paid 17,000.

[47:53] >> Okay.

[47:54] >> And it should have been about double

[47:56] that

[47:57] >> without again without seeing any of

[48:00] those any of those records, without

[48:01] seeing those individual tickets. I can't

[48:04] answer that any better.

[48:06] >> This is kind of a problem. The math

[48:07] ain't math in here. 65 to 70% of 50,000

[48:10] is almost double what we believe Brian

[48:13] was paid. And digging into the details,

[48:15] it turns out a lot of these sales come

[48:17] from what Crystal's spreadsheet actually

[48:19] categorizes as layaways, meaning they

[48:23] were marked as having been sold. But

[48:25] layaways are when someone puts a down

[48:27] payment on an item and later pays it

[48:29] off. I imagine if any of you are

[48:31] familiar with layaways, you just rolled

[48:32] your eyes in a big way that always ends

[48:38] in a lot of fuzziness, a a lot of

[48:42] friction. So now we're starting to we're

[48:46] starting to see

[48:49] something very new in this story here.

[48:51] So, Coffeezilla has learned that a lot

[48:54] of this comes from layaways

[48:56] >> worth about $20,000

[48:58] in layaway. And that felt a little

[49:01] strange to me. And because of that, I

[49:03] asked Josh Johnson, the incoming owner,

[49:05] and he responded, quote, "There were two

[49:08] to three items on layaway when they took

[49:10] over."

[49:11] >> I haven't gone through and done a count,

[49:13] but I know it was

[49:15] vastly more than 2 to three.

[49:18] >> It was about 98. that that makes sense.

[49:22] >> Coffee then tries to wrap his head

[49:23] around this whole huge amount of

[49:26] layaway. And Crystal then explains like,

[49:29] "Yeah, it is extremely rare." And she

[49:31] says that she's not even sure they've

[49:33] ever done layaway until this set came

[49:35] in. But then goes on to explain like how

[49:37] their layaway worked where they'd, you

[49:39] know, put the down payment then make

[49:41] payments over like 30 days and that kind

[49:43] of thing. and that it was just a a big

[49:47] there was the way she dove into it was

[49:49] already very much a lot of moving

[49:53] pieces. She even mentions like one set

[49:56] in particular went on layaway four times

[49:58] and then eventually got sold. So like

[50:01] this amount of layaway and like the

[50:03] discrepancy between how much layaway

[50:06] like what what Josh is reporting and

[50:08] what is reported on the sheet like the

[50:11] whole thing with this layaway here is

[50:13] already getting into some really spotty

[50:15] ground that makes it hard to like really

[50:19] nail down what's going on and why

[50:22] because it feels like a crazy amount to

[50:25] be doing on layaway which is something

[50:28] Coffeezilla mentions as So, a lot of

[50:30] these are see like look at this like so

[50:33] like it says POSOS final sale price but

[50:36] it's listed as a layaway but it's but

[50:37] it's sold for $5.99 because it matches

[50:41] it matches with the store sale price.

[50:43] >> Okay.

[50:44] >> So, were they on layaway? Were they

[50:46] accidentally marked layaway on the

[50:47] spreadsheet? What's going on there?

[50:49] >> Um our Ewok Village was one of those

[50:51] cases. Uh at some point he had I think

[50:53] like eight or nine different items on

[50:55] layaway. Um, so they'd come in and make

[50:58] a payment for a a a bulk payment. You

[51:02] know, I've got 800 things on layaway.

[51:06] I'm going to make $100 on my payment.

[51:08] Um, one customer in particular would do

[51:11] that and then when he'd gotten up high

[51:12] enough to pay for one set, we'd pull

[51:15] that set out, mark it as sold. She

[51:17] states numerous times that without being

[51:18] able to see like the actual sales

[51:20] ticket, she can't really give a great

[51:22] explanation, but she talks about like

[51:25] one of the more complicated layaway

[51:27] experiences they had like with the Ewok

[51:30] village. And like you can see

[51:34] where things are getting really muddy

[51:36] through this layaway um protocol that

[51:40] they had there. and it's leading to a

[51:42] lot of funky bookkeeping that is making

[51:45] some really odd stuff come to light. And

[51:49] another thing that Coffeezilla gets into

[51:51] I think is a very big one. But I even

[51:53] found more than that in this POS data. I

[51:55] also found about $10,000 in sales that

[51:59] match Brian's collection that were not

[52:01] marked as sold under this inventory

[52:04] spreadsheet. Some of our things that

[52:06] were not found,

[52:08] >> okay,

[52:08] >> were explained by the POSOS system

[52:11] because they were found in the POS

[52:13] system as being sold. So, like they

[52:16] weren't marked on the spreadsheet, but

[52:17] they were marked as sold via the POS

[52:20] system. And this is about $10,000 worth

[52:24] of Lego that basically were matched.

[52:27] >> Huh. Uh there is a possibility that the

[52:30] the consignments were ended when I

[52:33] wasn't at work and I just didn't go

[52:35] through and pull them up. They didn't

[52:37] get put in the consignment ticket. I

[52:39] hadn't gone through that those those

[52:41] consignments in a couple of months. I

[52:43] hadn't gone through the inventory in the

[52:45] back room in a couple of months. So

[52:46] there it is entirely possible there were

[52:48] things there were sales that were

[52:50] finished that I never clocked as being

[52:53] finished. I don't know that without

[52:56] going through and actually seeing it.

[52:58] >> But you're saying it's possible stuff

[53:00] was sold, not updated on this inventory

[53:03] list.

[53:04] >> It's entirely possible.

[53:05] >> Now, that is a big stinky whoopsie if

[53:10] things from this collection are being

[53:12] sold and they're not being updated and

[53:16] Brian is not getting paid because it's

[53:18] not getting updated. So, they don't know

[53:20] that it's getting sold in the first

[53:21] place. You can see where we're having a

[53:23] big problem now. This bookkeeping is now

[53:26] seeming to be the most egregious

[53:30] catalyst to where this whole thing

[53:32] started with this missing Lego

[53:34] collection and him not being properly

[53:37] paid for Legos that may have actually

[53:40] already been sold and aren't even

[53:42] missing. Now, in that audio recording

[53:45] when Brandon Best came in and kicked

[53:46] them out, she does make a mention that

[53:48] Brandon may not have been paid yet.

[53:51] everything that he's owed. That is

[53:53] something that is explicitly mentioned

[53:54] by her. Coffeezilla also plays the

[53:56] recording where you can hear all of

[53:57] that. I've played it for you a couple

[53:59] times. I'm sure you know what I'm

[54:00] talking about and is assured by the man

[54:02] on the phone who we know is Kai or Key.

[54:05] I already forgot how to say his [ __ ]

[54:06] name. That the consignment liability

[54:08] will be taken on by the new franchises

[54:11] here that are coming in. So Crystal does

[54:14] make a mention that Brian hasn't

[54:16] received everything that he is owed here

[54:19] from all the sales, but from the

[54:21] bookkeeping here, it looks very messy.

[54:23] So the amount that he was going to get

[54:25] paid from Crystal probably still

[54:26] wouldn't have been accurate. At least

[54:28] not in my opinion. Not based on

[54:30] everything I'm seeing here, cuz it seems

[54:31] like a lot may have been overlooked,

[54:33] forgotten to be updated, or just lost

[54:36] somewhere along the way in the

[54:37] bookkeeping, which would make it very,

[54:39] very difficult for them to properly

[54:41] compensate him for what they have sold

[54:42] from his collection, either through

[54:44] layaway or through just finishing that

[54:46] consignment there on those. So, it was

[54:48] already in a weird spot, but she did

[54:50] recognize that there was money that he

[54:52] was owed and put that on the radar of

[54:54] the new incoming owners. Maybe you can

[54:57] chalk some of this up to bad

[54:59] recordkeeping between the U-Haul, the

[55:01] layaways, the $20,000 in Lego sets that

[55:03] corporate called $2 to $5,000 that was

[55:05] there that night, the offbook deals. But

[55:08] even if we can't like fully know 100%,

[55:12] you know, what these weird things were

[55:13] about, I think they tell a story of what

[55:15] actually happened to Brian's collection.

[55:17] In a way, multiple people, I think, are

[55:20] kind of right, kind of wrong. The

[55:21] Gormans were correct that more of that

[55:23] collection was there that night of the

[55:25] takeover than previously thought. But

[55:27] corporate also alleged that some of it

[55:29] was offsite and that appears to be

[55:30] partly true. Although some of that is

[55:32] disputed and it looks like, you know,

[55:35] way more of the collection was sold and

[55:37] layawayed than Brian was paid for. But

[55:39] all in all, there's a lot less missing

[55:42] than many people think, especially if

[55:45] your starting number is $200,000.

[55:47] >> Very, very, very true. Yeah. After

[55:51] watching this, it is extremely clear

[55:53] that from the very beginning, there was

[55:56] not nearly as much missing as everyone

[56:00] thought going into this story. And yeah,

[56:03] bricks and mini figs seems to be liar,

[56:06] liar, plants for hire in a bunch of

[56:07] cases. Sure. But their claim about like

[56:10] the off-site stuff, yeah, Coffey's

[56:13] right. It does seem like on all

[56:15] available evidence that is true. not

[56:16] just offsite and then brought back and

[56:18] put in the safe, but like sold offsite

[56:20] like to that other guy, the M&R. And

[56:24] then the Gormans are correct that there

[56:26] were more Legos there than Bricks and

[56:28] Minifigs is saying. And it does look

[56:30] like a lot of this goes back to really

[56:33] terrible recordkeeping. I don't know

[56:35] whether that's like malicious like the

[56:37] Gormans were trying to like scrape from

[56:39] the top or try and like, you know, stiff

[56:43] Brian and take the lion share for

[56:45] themselves and like use underhanded

[56:48] tactics for it or if it really was just

[56:50] bad bookkeeping because they weren't

[56:53] very good at bookkeeping. It's hard to

[56:55] say for sure. I like I really I don't

[56:58] know one way or the other on that, but

[57:00] the layaways and how they kept track of

[57:03] everything is clearly a huge issue that

[57:06] definitely made this situation

[57:09] significantly messier. And according to

[57:11] Coffeezilla, Brian Mancel is still owed

[57:14] like $50 to $83,000

[57:17] by his estimation here in payments that

[57:20] he hasn't received that he should have

[57:23] received in this general ballpark range.

[57:26] That is the most important piece of all

[57:28] this. A man who's been really wronged on

[57:32] all sides here, it seems that is still

[57:35] owed this money here from this [ __ ]

[57:39] conundrum for Lego. He wasn't

[57:41] compensated for. And I think honestly

[57:43] that's something that Bricks and Minigs

[57:45] obviously should handle and make right.

[57:48] Regardless of what a franchisee does,

[57:51] the new one, the old one, the company

[57:53] behind it must stand behind their

[57:55] product, their service, and I can't

[57:57] imagine a better example of a company

[57:59] doing the opposite. Unfortunately,

[58:01] Bricks and Miniix has chosen to deflect

[58:03] and dodge responsibility at most

[58:06] opportunities and created a really awful

[58:09] customer experience that has snowballed

[58:12] into this crazy series of events.

[58:15] >> That's so [ __ ] right. Coffeezilla

[58:18] absolutely hitting the bullseye. It's

[58:19] something I've been saying from the very

[58:20] beginning. Even if Bricks and Minigs at

[58:22] some point along this journey came out

[58:24] and proved everyone was wrong here, at

[58:26] the very core, Brian Mancel is a

[58:29] customer who attempted to use the Bricks

[58:31] and Minifig service because he believed

[58:33] it was the gold standard and his best

[58:34] bet to sell his father's lifelong Star

[58:37] Wars collection for life-changing money.

[58:40] and through this ended up getting

[58:42] completely shafted. And yes, a lot of it

[58:44] could maybe tie back to like the

[58:45] terrible recordkeeping with the previous

[58:47] owners, but at the end of the day, it is

[58:49] something that Bricks and Minifigs

[58:50] themselves should have been more more

[58:53] than willing to make right on their own

[58:55] because it is still their company. It is

[58:57] their brand. And every step of the way,

[59:00] they villainized Brian. They attacked

[59:03] Brian and refused to make it right

[59:05] without this huge public spectacle

[59:07] putting pressure on them. Now Ammon's

[59:09] singing the whole like, "Let's just all

[59:10] be friends. Come grab my arm and we'll

[59:12] square dance" type [ __ ] Like it took a

[59:15] huge massive avalanche as Coffeezilla

[59:17] describes it to finally get them to even

[59:19] toy with the idea of making it right.

[59:22] But they have nowhere along this path

[59:24] actually wanted to do that. Which is why

[59:26] I've said this makes no sense for their

[59:28] business because who the [ __ ] would want

[59:30] to work with them going forward? Because

[59:32] if you are brand main sale in this case,

[59:34] if you are a customer that wants to use

[59:35] bricks and minigs and you're going to

[59:37] sell through them and something goes

[59:39] wrong, they're not on your side. They

[59:41] have proven that they will be actively

[59:43] combative against you and will do

[59:46] everything they can to slap you down for

[59:49] their own self-interest. That is the

[59:52] most glaringly obvious fumble you could

[59:55] ever make as a business. And it's

[59:57] something Bricks and Minifig still to

[59:59] this day refuses to recognize. But

[1:00:02] instead of taking accountability for

[1:00:04] that, they've taken an aggressive legal

[1:00:06] strategy, which I told them personally

[1:00:07] was a horrible idea. As of writing this,

[1:00:10] Brian Mancel is being sued for 1.3

[1:00:13] million as part of a legal campaign

[1:00:15] against him and Reckless Ben and any of

[1:00:18] the associates. Remember, Brian is the

[1:00:21] same guy who lost all these Legos at

[1:00:24] Bricks and Miniig store. And I told the

[1:00:26] CEO and COO that's ridiculous and they

[1:00:28] should drop this. Look, mistakes have

[1:00:30] been made by plenty of people here. But

[1:00:32] there's a lot more people who have

[1:00:34] inflicted selfowns the likes of which

[1:00:36] we've rarely seen by just choosing the

[1:00:39] worst possible path at every fork in the

[1:00:42] road. No pun intended. But the best path

[1:00:45] to making things right in my view is by

[1:00:48] just making Brian whole and moving on.

[1:00:51] >> Yeah. So, as Ammon continues to do his

[1:00:54] like playing the world's smallest violin

[1:00:56] for why won't anyone think about bricks

[1:00:58] and mini figs feelings, we just want to

[1:01:00] make Brian Mancel whole. That's the main

[1:01:02] thing that we're thinking about over

[1:01:04] here. We just have him constantly in our

[1:01:06] thoughts and we're praying for him and

[1:01:07] we want to help and we want to work with

[1:01:09] him collaboratively as best friends

[1:01:10] together. I want to kiss him on the

[1:01:12] mouth. I want to have a group hug in the

[1:01:13] shower with Brian and all of our team

[1:01:15] together as one nude. just going on and

[1:01:17] on about how their mission is now to

[1:01:19] help Brian do everything they can for

[1:01:21] Brian

[1:01:23] and meanwhile they're actively suing him

[1:01:25] for $1.3 million which is why everything

[1:01:27] Ammon is saying about it just feels so

[1:01:30] fraudulent feels so scummy he is a snake

[1:01:33] he's saying that he just wants to help

[1:01:35] him and make Brian whole again we want

[1:01:36] to give him what he's owed while

[1:01:38] actively suing him for $1.3 million

[1:01:41] coffee is right that's a terrible idea

[1:01:43] and again this should show every

[1:01:45] customer ever in the LEGO community to

[1:01:48] not work with Bricks and Minifig because

[1:01:50] Brian's only crime was getting [ __ ] by

[1:01:52] their business. Like, yes, their

[1:01:54] franchisee, like the Gormans, definitely

[1:01:57] played a huge role with how they handled

[1:01:59] things and making it so messy in the

[1:02:01] first place, but when he tried to

[1:02:02] correct course and try and get what he's

[1:02:04] owed and going through corporate, look

[1:02:06] at what happened. Look at what's

[1:02:08] happened. Yes, he went to Reckless Bin

[1:02:09] as well where things really popped off,

[1:02:11] but what other avenues did he have? He

[1:02:13] couldn't fight them legally. There's

[1:02:14] even record of a bricks and minifigs

[1:02:17] higher up like someone that's not at the

[1:02:19] bottom of the food chain that has a

[1:02:21] pretty substantial position there on on

[1:02:23] record on the phone even saying that

[1:02:26] they will just financially bleed them

[1:02:28] dry talking to the Gormans. They'll draw

[1:02:30] it out in court and they'll lose more

[1:02:31] than they would have ever made should

[1:02:32] they win. Like going the legal route for

[1:02:35] an ordinary citizen like Brian Mancel is

[1:02:38] an extremely costly and not actually

[1:02:40] attainable path. So, he tried to do

[1:02:42] everything in his power to just be paid

[1:02:45] what he's owed. Like, be made whole

[1:02:47] again. Just try and get this resolved.

[1:02:49] And look at what's happened to him.

[1:02:50] Bricks and Minigs is suing him for $1.3

[1:02:53] million. I don't blame him for going to

[1:02:55] Reckless Ben. You can point the finger

[1:02:56] at Reckless Ben like the way he handled

[1:02:58] it was like bad and counterproductive,

[1:03:00] whatever. Without it, nothing would have

[1:03:02] changed in Brian's personal situation

[1:03:04] here. And and it's just I don't know how

[1:03:08] anyone could possibly defend Bricks and

[1:03:10] Mini Fig's decision to sue him here.

[1:03:13] $1.3 million. Like he is a victim of

[1:03:16] your business, man. Like this [ __ ] is

[1:03:18] crazy to me. It is a terrible idea and

[1:03:21] they refuse to back down on it. This is

[1:03:23] why I really just don't think anyone

[1:03:25] should do business with Bricks and

[1:03:26] Minifigs going forward. They are not

[1:03:28] good partners to work with. They are not

[1:03:30] looking out for you, the person that

[1:03:31] wants to do business with them. This

[1:03:33] [ __ ] is just ridiculous. tried it. They

[1:03:35] were basically met with like

[1:03:38] unreasonable requests, things like that.

[1:03:41] So,

[1:03:42] >> verification, documentation. Is that

[1:03:45] unreasonable, do you think?

[1:03:48] >> Uh, well, I think they would say they

[1:03:50] provided the documentation and you guys

[1:03:52] say you need more documentation. So, I

[1:03:53] mean, that's the kind that's kind of the

[1:03:55] >> right a spread like I understand a

[1:03:57] spreadsheet and a contract are are a

[1:03:59] good start.

[1:04:00] >> Yeah.

[1:04:02] Yeah. But we never got that. That was

[1:04:04] never sent to us at corporate, by the

[1:04:05] way.

[1:04:06] >> Y'all don't have the Y'all do have the

[1:04:08] spreadsheet, though. Yeah, y'all have

[1:04:09] the spreadsheet.

[1:04:09] >> That That was shared online, but like

[1:04:11] But months after we asked for it,

[1:04:13] >> it says it's I I'm just I'm so confused.

[1:04:16] It says I I'm I'm on the I'm on the file

[1:04:18] right now. It says storage used owned by

[1:04:20] BAMranchising, Inc. owner salem.org

[1:04:25] bricksandmigs.com.

[1:04:26] >> What What are you looking at? It is

[1:04:28] incredible how Ammon cannot help but put

[1:04:30] his own dick in his mouth all the time,

[1:04:32] constantly. So, this is like at the end

[1:04:35] of Coffeezilla's video now. He's given

[1:04:37] his thoughts on this whole thing and his

[1:04:39] conclusions and he was taking it to the

[1:04:41] parties involved here. And when talking

[1:04:42] with Ammon, he Ammon's like, "Oh, we

[1:04:46] never even got that." Which is just

[1:04:48] provably false. Copy to his face proves

[1:04:50] that they had access to this spreadsheet

[1:04:52] that he's claiming they didn't have

[1:04:54] access to until months later. That is a

[1:04:57] verifiably false statement. Ammon says

[1:05:01] owner salem

[1:05:04] at bricksand minifigs.com. That's you

[1:05:06] guys. Says owned by BAM Franchising Inc.

[1:05:10] says created September 6th, 2024. And

[1:05:13] when I look at it, this is the the Manel

[1:05:18] uh list, I believe.

[1:05:20] So this this would have been created

[1:05:22] under like so so we

[1:05:25] we have the um we all

[1:05:28] >> you'll definitely have this. You'll have

[1:05:29] access to this.

[1:05:30] >> Well, I had no idea. Then you're dumb,

[1:05:33] Ammon. Then you're just stupid. How

[1:05:35] about that? You're just an idiot. You're

[1:05:37] a bumbling imbecile. You're a [ __ ] And

[1:05:39] yet you continue to say like, "Oh, they

[1:05:41] never even provided it." Well, you just

[1:05:42] don't know then because you're too

[1:05:44] stupid to know. Like what? It Ammon

[1:05:47] actually boggles my mind, bro. It's

[1:05:49] crazy.

[1:05:50] >> Like, so if this is the first anybody

[1:05:53] has shown me

[1:05:55] >> that

[1:05:56] >> that a spreadsheet was created using

[1:05:59] like bricks and minifigs Salem like and

[1:06:01] all of this stuff was archived. This

[1:06:03] this is the first I've seen that this

[1:06:06] spreadsheet was created by Crystal and

[1:06:08] we don't know how accurate it is, how up

[1:06:10] up to date it was. We don't know a lot

[1:06:11] of those types of things. And and

[1:06:13] understand I appreciate you sharing this

[1:06:15] with us because we had no idea. Again,

[1:06:17] you don't know what you don't know. And

[1:06:18] you you can't like we don't know

[1:06:20] everything and we don't go you know like

[1:06:23] looking in every nook and cranny

[1:06:24] everywhere, you know, like we just don't

[1:06:26] know some of those things. So

[1:06:27] >> then you're a bad business. Then you're

[1:06:29] just a dog [ __ ] business. Like this

[1:06:31] isn't a good defense, Ammon. Oh, we just

[1:06:33] don't know. We just like actually don't

[1:06:34] keep track of any of this [ __ ] Yeah, we

[1:06:35] just like actually have no idea. You

[1:06:37] don't know what you don't know and you

[1:06:38] don't know your own business.

[1:06:41] Man, wake up. Use your head. You

[1:06:45] shouldn't be in the position you're in

[1:06:46] then. How about like I how does that at

[1:06:49] any in any way excuse anything of what's

[1:06:52] happened here? It's a terrible defense,

[1:06:54] man. Especially when you keep trying to

[1:06:56] like poke holes in other people's

[1:06:58] stories when you admittedly don't even

[1:06:59] keep track of your own [ __ ] You don't

[1:07:01] even know your own things. You don't

[1:07:02] even know what you even have access to

[1:07:04] in the first place. So, how can you even

[1:07:06] be approaching things to talk about them

[1:07:08] or opine on them? Ammon, like you're

[1:07:11] just you're off your gourd. But yeah,

[1:07:13] anyway, it was a fantastic investigation

[1:07:15] that I really do think got to the bottom

[1:07:17] of most of the meat and potatoes here.

[1:07:19] Uh, at the end, the Gormans also

[1:07:21] mentioned that they recognize that a lot

[1:07:23] of this falls on their shoulders for

[1:07:24] potentially like bad bookkeeping and

[1:07:26] that they're more than willing to like

[1:07:28] take accountability for that and try and

[1:07:29] make it right, but they need the tickets

[1:07:31] from Bricks and Minifigs, which they

[1:07:32] said they would do that kind of stuff.

[1:07:34] All in all, just another banger here

[1:07:36] from Coffeezilla in an incredible

[1:07:37] investigation and can only hope that

[1:07:40] Brian Mancel gets made whole here from

[1:07:44] Bricks and Minigs and they actually pay

[1:07:46] him what he's owed. Uh that they like

[1:07:50] they need to make things right and it

[1:07:52] starts with making him whole and

[1:07:53] dropping that [ __ ] lawsuit. You

[1:07:55] actual imbeciles, man. It's crazy.

[1:07:59] Anyway, anyway, anyway though, amazing

[1:08:01] work from Coffeezilla. Please go support

[1:08:04] him in any way you can. That's really

[1:08:05] about it.