Toyota Killed the Supra?!
45sThe emotional hook of a beloved car being discontinued sparks immediate engagement from car enthusiasts.
▶ Play Clip"Delivers on the promise of comparing Supra and Z Nismo, but includes lengthy giveaway promotions and subjective hot takes."
The video is a passionate comparison between the Toyota Supra and the upcoming 2027 Nissan Z Nismo, arguing that Nissan's commitment to the Z nameplate makes it a superior sports car purchase. The creator, Brad Danger, expresses disappointment in Toyota for discontinuing the Supra without a successor, while praising Nissan for continuing to develop the Z with enthusiast-focused features.
Brad Danger explains his affection for the Supra, citing its legacy, badge, silhouette, and driving enjoyment.
Nissan revealed full details of the 2027 Z Nismo, which made Brad feel worse about the Supra because Toyota stopped trying while Nissan is pushing forward.
The A80 Supra was a poster car with the 2JZ engine. The A90 returned in 2019 with a BMW engine, which Brad initially accepted because it drove well.
Toyota discontinued the inline-6 and announced no successor, effectively killing the Supra nameplate again.
The Z has been in continuous production since 1969, with generations like 240Z, 300ZX, 350Z, and now the 2027 Nismo, each building on the last.
The 2027 Z Nismo has a 3-liter twin-turbo V6 with 420 horsepower and over 380 lb-ft of torque, more than the Supra's inline-six, and it's Nissan's own engine.
The Z Nismo offers a manual with shorter throw, and it uses two-piece rotors from the GT-R, a car that costs roughly twice as much.
Toyota gave the Supra a BMW engine and a pretty body, while Nissan gave the Z GT-R brakes and a manual gearbox, showing more commitment.
The Z Nismo has a frameless mirror, fixing a blind spot complaint, and features fully manual Recaro seats designed specifically for the car.
The Z Nismo's startup screen shows every generation of the Z morphing into each other, celebrating 55 years of heritage, while Toyota discontinued the Supra.
The Z Nismo is a better sports car purchase than any new Toyota at this price point, as the GR86 is smaller and the GR Corolla is a hot hatch.
Toyota's handling of the Supra nameplate is one of the biggest wastes in automotive history, as they had goodwill and a fan base but stopped.
Nissan putting a Z badge on the hood instead of the Nissan badge is a confident brand decision, showing the Z is its own identity.
If buying today, Brad would choose the Z because Nissan is building for the future while Toyota has left the segment.
Brad is keeping his Supra but would recommend the Z Nismo to anyone wanting a proper sports car under $60k, as Nissan has earned the segment.
Nissan's dedication to the Z nameplate, with continuous improvements and enthusiast-focused features, makes the 2027 Z Nismo a more compelling sports car than the discontinued Supra. Toyota's abandonment of the Supra leaves Nissan as the last Japanese automaker in the affordable rear-wheel-drive sports coupe segment.
What engine does the 2027 Nissan Z Nismo have?
A 3-liter twin-turbo V6 with 420 horsepower and over 380 lb-ft of torque.
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What brakes does the Z Nismo use?
Two-piece rotors from the GT-R.
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How long has the Z nameplate been in continuous production?
Since 1969.
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What did Toyota give the Supra generation compared to Nissan's Z Nismo?
Toyota gave a BMW engine and a pretty body, while Nissan gave GT-R brakes and a manual gearbox.
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What feature on the Z Nismo's startup screen celebrates its heritage?
It shows every generation of the Z morphing into each other.
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Z Nismo's power advantage
The Z Nismo produces more power than the Supra's inline-six, using Nissan's own V6, showing engineering commitment.
03:02Contrast in commitment
Highlights the difference between Toyota's minimal effort and Nissan's enthusiast-focused upgrades.
04:08Z Nismo as best purchase
Declares the Z Nismo the best sports car purchase at its price point, a strong opinion backed by specs.
06:01Z badge confidence
Nissan's decision to use the Z badge instead of the Nissan badge shows brand confidence and identity.
06:44[00:01] this Supra because I loved what it stood for. The legacy, the badge, the silhouette, that long hood, that wide rear. When it first came out, it looked incredible in person, and well, it still does. And every single time that I drive
[00:14] does. And every single time that I drive this thing, I just enjoy it. I smile. But something happened this week. Nissan dropped the full details of the 2027 Z Nismo, and I looked in disbelief for a long time, longer than I actually wanted
[00:28] to. Because the more I read, the worse I felt about this car behind me. Not because the Supra is bad, but because Toyota stopped trying, and Nissan, well, is about. And if you want to win this Supra or a Shelby GT350 plus $100,000 in
[00:44] cold hard cash, click the link in the pinned first comment and get entered for 99 cents. Yes, you get a ton of entries to win the car plus the $100,000 cash for less than a buck. Let's go. Let me tell you why this car exists in my
[00:57] garage. The A80 Supra, on the '90s one, was my poster car. 2JZ, twin turbo, bulletproof, the car that made an entire generation fall in love with Japanese performance. When Toyota brought it back as the A90 in 2019, I wanted to believe.
[01:13] I really did. Yes, it had a BMW engine. Yes, purists were losing their minds about that, but I drove one. And you know what? It was good, quick, balanced, rear-wheel drive, proper sports car proportions, the inline-6 sounded
[01:26] fantastic. I told myself the BMW thing didn't matter. What matters is how it drives. Right? So, I bought one, and I don't regret that decision. I regret of taking that foundation and building on it, adding a manual, developing the
[01:41] platform further, making it more Toyota over time, they killed it. Discontinued the inline-6. No successor announced. Just gone, like they got bored, like sitting here with a sports car from a company that quit. While Nissan is
[01:55] sitting over there with the 2027 Z Nismo manual transmission GT-R brakes, 420 horsepower still going, still fighting, still caring. Here's the thing that really gets me. The Z has been in continuous production as a concept, as a
[02:09] continuous production as a concept, as a philosophy since 1969. The 240Z, the philosophy since 1969. The 240Z, the 260Z, the 280Z, the 300ZX, the 350Z, the 260Z, the 280Z, the 300ZX, the 350Z, the 370Z, the RZ 34, and now the 2027 Nismo.
[02:23] Every single generation in conversation with the last. Every single one saying, "We remember." The Supra nameplate, it disappeared for 17 years, came back as a BMW collab, then disappeared again. I
[02:37] love my Supra, but I cannot look you in the eye and tell you Toyota treated this nameplate with the same respect Nissan treated the Z. I can't do it. The Z earned its legacy one generation at a time. The Supra coasted on its legacy
[02:49] and then abandoned it. That's not a hot take. That's just the timeline. Okay, once I walk you through this, you'll understand why I've been in my feelings understand why I've been in my feelings all week. The 2027 Z Nismo, 3-liter
[03:02] all week. The 2027 Z Nismo, 3-liter twin-turbo V6, 420 horsepower, over 380 pound-feet of torque, more power than my Supra's inline six made. Let that land for a second, and they did it with a V6. Nissan's V6, not borrowed from anyone.
[03:15] Theirs. Now, the manual. Shorter throw than the previous model. Yes, it's a little mechanical feeling, but it spoke Nachi in the gates. But, that's not a flaw. That's a feature. That's the car talking to you. My Supra came with a
[03:27] manual option in this generation only for special edition for extra extra money. Nissan actually built one. The brakes. They pulled the two-piece rotors brakes. They pulled the two-piece rotors from the GT-R, the actual literal GT-R,
[03:39] in a car that costs roughly half as much as a GT-R ever did. And because the new whole front end changes character. The steering is quicker, more alive, recalibrated suspension to match. They shaved 19 lb from just the wheel and
[03:53] braking area alone. New forged NISMO wheels, updated dampers across all 2027 Z models, not just the NISMO. [music] New fuel tank that handles hard cornering without starving the engine. Toyota gave my generation a BMW engine
[04:08] and a pretty body. Nissan gave their generation GT-R brakes and a manual gearbox. I know which one I'd pick if I was buying today. Before I keep going, are giving away a Shelby Mustang, a
[04:20] Toyota Supra, and $100,000 cash all in one giveaway. And yes, the irony is not lost on me, the car I'm sitting next to, the car Toyota discontinued. You can win one. Head to winthesidealcar.com right now. Link is in the description
[04:35] below. Maybe you'll love it more than I do right now. Okay, back to my crisis. because the horsepower numbers and the brake specs, those are easy to argue about. The small things are what keep me up at night. The Z NISMO has a frameless
[04:49] mirror now. The previous Z had a chunky frame mirror that reviewers say basically created an extra blind spot while driving hard. Nissan saw that complaint, fixed it. Done. My Supra's interior, I can I say this with love,
[05:02] has not aged perfectly. Some of the switch gear feels like a 2019 BMW because it is a 2019 BMW. The Z NISMO has fully manual Recaro seats, soft enough to hold you through a hard canyon run. Nissan seats, Nissan's design,
[05:18] built for this car specifically. The wireless charger is now Qi2, magnetic, Your phone doesn't overheat. The standard model, more feedback, more connection, more feel. And then there's
[05:32] [music] Apparently, it shows every generation of the Z morphing into each other right there on the screen when you turn the key. The car knows its own history. Toyota discontinued the Supra. Nissan is
[05:46] celebrating 55 years of the Z on the startup screen. Come on, man. All right, I've been diplomatic enough. Hot take time. Hot take one. The 2027 Z Nismo is a better sports car purchase than any new Toyota at this price point. Full
[06:01] stop. Not a debate, a conclusion. The GR86 is wonderful, but it's smaller and less powerful. The GR Corolla is a hot hatchback. Brilliant, but not this. The Supra is gone. Nissan is the last Japanese automaker standing in the
[06:16] affordable rear-wheel-drive sports coupe segment, and they are not wasting that position. Hot take two. Toyota's handling of the Supra nameplate is one automotive history. They had the goodwill. They had the legend. They had
[06:29] a fan base that was ready to forgive the BMW partnership if the product kept perfectly functional, well-reviewed sports car, they just stopped. I don't understand it. I don't think I ever will. Hot take three. Nissan putting a Z
[06:44] badge on the hood instead of the Nissan badge is the single most confident brand decision either company has made in years. The Z doesn't need Nissan's name to sell it. The Z is the name. Toyota would never do that with the Supra
[06:57] because Toyota never fully committed to the Supra being its own thing. Nissan let the Z be the Z. That's why it's still here. Hot take four. If I was walking into a dealership today with what I know now, I would buy the Z
[07:10] because Nissan is building for the future and Toyota already left the room. So, guys, here's where I land. I'm keeping the Supra. Well, uh yeah, if you pick the Shelby, I'm I'm going to keep it cuz I love it. Or, well, it can go to
[07:24] first comment. And for 99 cents, you get a ton of entries to both win the cars and the cash, 100 grand. And here's the thing about this guy. It is such a great car. It still makes me smile every single time that I turn it on and drive
[07:37] and says, "I want a proper sports car under 60 grand, what would I buy? I'm going to tell you the Z Nismo without hesitation. Nissan just showed up for 2027 GTR brakes, which was the last car
[07:50] that we gave away. Manual gearbox, Recaro seats, frameless mirror, Z badge on the hood, 55 years of heritage on the startup screen. A company that just fought to keep this car alive through bankruptcy scares and a market downturn
[08:04] and 11 years of a stagnant 370Z. They came out on the other side with this. Toyota will come back. They always do. They always will. And when they do, it's going to be great. But right now, Nissan has the sports car segment and they
[08:18] earned every single bit of it. Yeah. Sorry, buddy. It's just the truth. end of the year. If you feel this one, drop your Supra or Z hot takes in the comments. And remember to get entered to win this ideal car by clicking the pin
[08:32] first comment for less than a buck. I'm Brad Danger. This is Ideal. And check out some of these Ideal vids over here. And promise me one thing. Keep living And promise me one thing. Keep living the ideal lifestyle.
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