Kent McCord Has Owned This Rare 1980 Porsche 924 Turbo For 46 Years! | Jay Leno's Garage

[00:05] That turbo is addictive, yeah. It's

[00:07] definitely a seat of the pants car.

[00:09] >> Oh, yeah.

[00:10] >> Yeah.

[00:11] >> You know, I like any car where I can use

[00:13] all the horsepower all the time.

[00:15] >> Yeah.

[00:18] >> You know, I've got those McLarens and

[00:20] they're great fun, but you get in and

[00:21] you go, "Oh, this is fun." You step on

[00:22] the What? Wait, why am I in jail? What

[00:24] happened? You know, you get you got

[00:25] arrested. Well, you you know.

[00:37] Welcome to another episode of Jay Leno's

[00:39] Garage. The car we're featuring today, a

[00:41] 1980 Porsche 924

[00:44] Turbo. These are fascinating cars. The

[00:47] thing that's interesting about this one,

[00:48] it's still with the original owner. He

[00:50] bought it new. He's a gentleman you

[00:52] might recognize. Uh there was a TV show

[00:55] back in the '70s called uh Adam-12. It's

[00:58] a cop show, took place in Los Angeles.

[01:00] It was a half hour, probably responsible

[01:02] for more

[01:03] men and women becoming police officers

[01:05] than just about any other show on TV. It

[01:07] got kind of a cult favorite. Uh his name

[01:10] is Kent McCord. Kent, come on in, my

[01:12] friend. Good to see you.

[01:13] >> Thank you, Jay. Good to see you.

[01:14] >> look great. That TV show was 50 years

[01:17] ago.

[01:18] >> Longer than that. We're coming up Well,

[01:19] let's see. We We did the pilot in 1967.

[01:23] >> Wow.

[01:23] >> So, we're coming up to

[01:25] close to 60 years since we did the

[01:26] pilot.

[01:27] >> hilarious.

[01:28] >> It aired the first time in '68.

[01:29] >> Yeah, yeah.

[01:30] >> began its airing.

[01:31] >> And it was a half hour, which Yeah. And

[01:34] it was pre-DNA, pre-DNA. I love those

[01:37] shows cuz

[01:38] there was no real evidence. You just had

[01:40] hunches.

[01:41] >> Yeah.

[01:41] >> Yeah.

[01:42] >> Yeah.

[01:42] >> You know, I got a hunch. Oh, you'd find

[01:44] a matchbook, you know, like

[01:45] >> More than once Marty Milner said to me,

[01:47] "I just had a hunch that that would

[01:48] >> Yeah.

[01:52] They'll know what And it was on like 50

[01:54] countries around the world, right?

[01:55] >> Yes, it was.

[01:56] >> Yeah, yeah.

[01:56] >> Yeah, it became we started getting fan

[01:58] mail from like in

[02:00] from Germany. I remember one particular

[02:02] letter.

[02:03] They sent us the picture of the two guys

[02:04] in the car. And they were in a green and

[02:07] white.

[02:07] >> Yeah.

[02:08] >> Not a black and white.

[02:09] >> Right. Oh, yeah.

[02:09] >> And they were big fans of the show over

[02:11] there.

[02:11] >> Oh, that's fine.

[02:12] >> The other thing that happened during

[02:13] Adam-12 was that episodes of Adam-12

[02:16] started getting bicycled from Universal

[02:18] Studios

[02:20] to different police departments and used

[02:21] as training films.

[02:23] >> Oh, is that right?

[02:24] >> Yeah. Because we had a technical advisor

[02:25] with us every day we shot the show to

[02:27] say do this when you get out of the car.

[02:29] >> Right.

[02:30] >> They basically had nothing to do with

[02:31] what the story was going to be like or

[02:33] anything, but it once we

[02:35] we would get out of the car and approach

[02:36] a suspect all of that was by the book.

[02:40] >> Well, my favorite thing about the show

[02:41] was how

[02:43] spartan the police car was.

[02:44] >> Yeah.

[02:44] >> No air conditioning, no electric

[02:47] windows, radio, shotgun, here's the

[02:50] keys, there you go. And those cars were

[02:53] pretty hot when I mean you were filming

[02:54] in the Los Angeles in the summer.

[02:56] >> Well, one of the cheats that we did, we

[02:57] did get air conditioning when we ordered

[02:59] ours.

[03:00] >> Oh, is that right?

[03:01] >> Yeah. You know, because one of the

[03:02] things that happened is we set up a

[03:04] shield over the front of the car to keep

[03:07] the reflection

[03:08] of the windshield from obliterating us.

[03:12] And we had to have the windows rolled up

[03:15] because we were miked inside. It wasn't

[03:17] as sensitive as what we have now.

[03:20] >> Yeah.

[03:20] >> We need air conditioning.

[03:21] >> Did it seem like it was going to be a

[03:23] cult favorite as you were filming or it

[03:24] just seemed like just another TV show

[03:26] job, you know, what I mean?

[03:27] >> Oh, no, it was never just another TV

[03:29] show.

[03:29] >> yeah.

[03:30] >> Almost from the beginning.

[03:31] Jack Webb being a stickler for

[03:34] authenticity and also having had a

[03:37] tremendous relationship with the LAPD

[03:40] >> Right.

[03:40] >> called both Marty and me into the office

[03:43] at the beginning.

[03:44] And he said guys, you are joining

[03:47] a very small fraternity.

[03:50] Don't screw it up.

[03:52] He said if you get pulled over for

[03:53] something, buy it."

[03:55] >> Right. Right.

[03:55] >> he said, "Because if you try to talk

[03:57] your way out or give them some accurate

[03:58] crap,

[03:59] >> Right.

[03:59] >> you know, you're it's going to shoot

[04:01] through this department like wildfire.

[04:03] And he said, "So, don't discredit us and

[04:05] don't discredit yourself."

[04:06] >> Have you ever gotten a ticket?

[04:07] >> You know, I did.

[04:08] >> You got it for what?

[04:10] >> couple things on the ticket side. One

[04:11] time I was in one of my Corvettes that

[04:14] I'd had prior to this car.

[04:15] >> Right.

[04:16] >> Going down Laurel Canyon

[04:19] trying to get to Harry's Camera before

[04:20] it closed to buy a component that I

[04:22] wanted for my camera.

[04:24] And I was smoking it pretty good and a

[04:27] motor officer pulled me over.

[04:29] >> And I got out of the car and I got my

[04:31] wallet out and and I walked up to him

[04:33] and I said, "I was wrong. Just write the

[04:35] ticket."

[04:36] And he said, "After everything you've

[04:38] done for us,"

[04:39] cranked the bike and took off.

[04:40] >> Oh, there you go.

[04:42] >> The second one was I'm in Burbank.

[04:44] >> Right.

[04:44] >> Hotter hot day.

[04:46] And I'm coming down Hollywood Way and at

[04:49] Verdugo, there's a 7-Eleven.

[04:51] >> Right.

[04:52] >> And I'm coming down this way and the

[04:53] 7-Eleven appears

[04:55] uh behind a tree and it was just this

[04:58] blistering hot day.

[05:00] And I pull in to the left-hand turn lane

[05:03] and then pull into the 7-Eleven.

[05:05] Burbank motor officer's coming this way.

[05:08] And he pulls in and he asked for my

[05:10] driver's license and registration. I

[05:12] said, "What I do?" He said, "You

[05:14] improperly entered the left-hand turn

[05:16] lane."

[05:16] >> Right.

[05:17] >> So, he writes me the ticket.

[05:19] >> Oh, wow.

[05:20] >> I go to court

[05:22] and I plead guilty to the judge with an

[05:26] explanation.

[05:27] And he says, "You want to go to driver's

[05:29] school or you want to fight this?"

[05:31] And I said, "Well, if those are my two

[05:32] choices, I guess driver's school."

[05:34] And I walk over to the bailiff to give

[05:36] him my information and he says, "You

[05:38] should have worn your uniform."

[05:41] But that was the last ticket I got.

[05:43] >> All right. Well, let's talk about the

[05:45] car.

[05:45] >> Yeah.

[05:46] >> You've always been a car enthusiast,

[05:47] obviously.

[05:48] >> Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[05:48] >> You made the jump from Corvette to

[05:50] Porsche. That's like Oh, boy.

[05:52] >> Well, we went through a transition

[05:54] there. I had a '66, a '69, and I had a

[05:57] '71.

[05:58] And the '71 vet

[06:00] >> Right.

[06:00] >> I got from Jack Webb.

[06:02] >> Oh, okay.

[06:02] >> I had talked Jack Webb, who had a habit

[06:05] of getting a convertible Cadillac in the

[06:07] summer,

[06:08] and a two-door hardtop in the winter.

[06:11] >> Right.

[06:11] >> And every crew guy was lined up to get

[06:13] that car that had gone from Encino to

[06:16] Universal and back

[06:17] >> Right, right.

[06:17] >> for half a year. And I finally I talked

[06:19] him into getting a Corvette. I had my

[06:21] '69.

[06:23] And he got this Corvette, 454,

[06:26] the 390 I think it was the 395 with a

[06:29] with a automatic.

[06:30] >> Right, right.

[06:31] >> And uh I was in a negotiation with

[06:33] Universal over salary.

[06:36] And I get a call from Jack's

[06:38] secretary one day, Jack wants to see you

[06:41] up at the office. And I go up to the

[06:43] office,

[06:44] and the Corvette's parked in front.

[06:47] And I walk in,

[06:49] and uh Jack had a desk when he'd work

[06:52] with writers, a double desk.

[06:54] And I'm sitting on the other end,

[06:56] and he takes out the keys to the vet,

[06:58] and he tosses them to me. He says,

[06:59] "Here, it's yours." And I said, "What?"

[07:01] He said, "The Corvette."

[07:03] And you don't even have to give your

[07:04] agent a hubcap.

[07:07] So, that was part of the sweetener that

[07:09] he threw in on my negotiation.

[07:11] >> Yeah, that's a good way to do it.

[07:12] >> So, I kept that car for a long time, but

[07:14] then during one of the gas crisis,

[07:17] going back and forth over Laurel Canyon,

[07:20] you know, that 454 ate gas like

[07:22] >> Oh, yeah.

[07:23] >> Yeah.

[07:23] >> Yeah.

[07:23] >> And and we were we were on that uh that

[07:27] program where depending on what your

[07:29] license number I think the last number

[07:31] on the

[07:31] >> only buy gas every other

[07:32] >> odd or odd or even.

[07:34] >> Odd or even days. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[07:35] >> And and I got tired of that, and I

[07:38] bought a Saab.

[07:40] And uh I sold the vet, and uh I had a

[07:43] Saab Turbo.

[07:44] >> Right. Oh, I had okay.

[07:45] >> And then I started racing for

[07:47] Volkswagen.

[07:49] Doing a Volk

[07:50] VW Rabbit Bilstein Cup.

[07:52] >> Oh, okay.

[07:52] >> And I had done several of the Toyota Pro

[07:54] Celebrity races. One one at Watkins

[07:57] Glen. And uh

[07:59] you know, the Saab I went to school up

[08:01] at Bondurant.

[08:03] >> Yeah, yeah.

[08:03] >> And you know, I started looking at

[08:05] Porsches and I thought something that

[08:08] was economical

[08:09] better than that 454.

[08:11] >> Right.

[08:11] >> And still had tremendous performance.

[08:14] And I kind of got led

[08:17] to Vasek Polak in Redondo Beach who was

[08:20] probably the country's biggest

[08:22] >> Oh, yeah. He was the Porsche guy.

[08:23] >> Porsche guy. And so

[08:26] I went in they loaned me one of these. I

[08:28] had it at my house for

[08:30] a couple weeks

[08:32] and came back and this was sitting on

[08:34] the showroom floor and I just loved the

[08:36] look of this. I loved the way it sat. I

[08:39] loved the fact that it was a little more

[08:41] economical than than other cars and

[08:45] a kick in the eye.

[08:46] >> And this was it wasn't a VW but it's VW

[08:49] Porsche right?

[08:50] >> Well, it's it started out on a design

[08:52] from what I understand in the

[08:54] development of this car, it started out

[08:56] in a in a VW design thing then went to

[08:59] Audi.

[08:59] >> Right.

[09:00] >> And then Porsche

[09:02] was thinking about moving into

[09:04] water-cooled

[09:05] uh front-engine cars.

[09:07] >> Right.

[09:08] >> And so they they had the 924 and then to

[09:11] add a little

[09:12] oomph to the car they put in the turbo

[09:14] here. You know, and then it became a

[09:16] Porsche.

[09:16] >> Cuz originally what was the 924

[09:19] non-turbo was like

[09:20] 125 horsepower just

[09:22] >> Yeah, it was

[09:23] >> not much more than a Volkswagen.

[09:25] >> yeah.

[09:25] >> Yeah, yeah. It was more VW so this was

[09:29] the turbo and these were uh

[09:31] They were how many turbos have you gone

[09:33] through on this thing?

[09:34] >> I think about 10.

[09:35] >> Really? 10?

[09:36] >> I think about 10.

[09:37] >> And how many miles?

[09:39] >> 128,000.

[09:40] >> Okay. This is early primitive sort of

[09:43] turbo technology. So, it was an oil

[09:45] cooled turbo. So, when the engine is

[09:46] running, it's pumping. But when you shut

[09:48] it off, ooh,

[09:50] the

[09:50] turbo's spinning down from 10,000 rpm.

[09:53] >> Right.

[09:53] >> With no oil. Because you shut the car

[09:56] off.

[09:56] >> what's in the sump.

[09:57] >> Right.

[09:57] >> And it heats the oil.

[09:59] >> And cooks it.

[10:00] >> the bearing. Blows the turbo.

[10:03] >> I remember they would tell people, "Oh,

[10:05] run it for 5 minutes idling."

[10:07] >> Yeah.

[10:07] >> To cool it down, that kind of thing.

[10:09] Nobody

[10:09] >> Actually, actually it took about a it

[10:11] took about a minute to bring that

[10:13] bearing down.

[10:14] >> Wow.

[10:14] >> You know, so I have all kinds of little

[10:16] signs in the glove box that I tape to

[10:18] the

[10:19] >> Yeah, yeah.

[10:20] >> steering wheel when I take it in for

[10:21] service.

[10:22] You know, do not do that.

[10:24] >> So, the engine So, it's four-wheel disc

[10:26] brakes.

[10:26] >> Yeah.

[10:27] >> Okay.

[10:28] >> Independent suspension.

[10:29] >> Independent suspension, four-cylinder.

[10:31] How many was it How many liter? 2.5?

[10:33] >> Two.

[10:34] >> Oh, 2 liter.

[10:35] >> It's a 2 liter.

[10:35] >> 2 liter, okay.

[10:36] >> Just a nudge under, actually.

[10:37] >> Yeah, with a five-speed. You know, it's

[10:39] a good-looking car. It still looks

[10:40] contemporary.

[10:41] >> Yeah.

[10:42] >> I It's so funny. I don't recognize these

[10:44] big giant

[10:46] Are they just reflectors or turn

[10:49] signals? Do those flash?

[10:50] >> Uh

[10:51] Yeah, they flash.

[10:52] >> Okay, they Yeah, yeah. Funny, I For some

[10:55] reason I don't remember Is that that's

[10:56] an American thing?

[10:57] >> I think it's an American. If you were

[10:58] looking in England, you know, when I

[11:01] when I got the call that we were going

[11:02] to do this thing, I started looking at

[11:03] my car again and

[11:05] >> Right.

[11:05] >> You know, and and it was like a kind of

[11:07] a little architectural dig.

[11:09] >> Yeah.

[11:10] >> Opening up the boot and looking into the

[11:12] side storage places and finding

[11:15] the original window sticker, which I've

[11:18] got.

[11:18] >> much was it? 24 and change?

[11:20] >> This This came in at This car came in at

[11:23] 26.

[11:24] >> Oh, 26.

[11:25] >> Yeah.

[11:25] >> Okay.

[11:26] >> The first brand new car I ever bought

[11:28] was a

[11:29] 1965

[11:31] Impala Super Sport.

[11:32] >> Right.

[11:33] >> Black on black. 327 350.

[11:37] >> Yeah.

[11:37] >> Four-speed.

[11:38] >> Right. Oh, nice car.

[11:39] >> I didn't want air conditioning in it.

[11:41] No No kid worth his salt would waste

[11:44] horsepower on air conditioning.

[11:45] >> Exactly.

[11:45] >> You know, so

[11:46] >> And black on black in LA where it's

[11:48] 100°.

[11:48] >> Right.

[11:49] >> Good thinking on your part, yeah.

[11:51] >> You know, and so

[11:52] you know, living with that philosophy,

[11:54] having grown up in that era.

[11:55] >> Right.

[11:56] >> This has air conditioning in it. Right

[11:58] now, it's not operating, so we have what

[12:00] they call

[12:02] the air conditioning is 265 air

[12:05] conditioning. Roll down the two windows

[12:07] and go 65 miles an hour.

[12:09] >> Yeah, I see. Very good.

[12:11] Cool. Well, she still looks good. Is

[12:13] this the original paint?

[12:15] >> This is not the original paint.

[12:17] >> Original color?

[12:17] >> I It's the original color. It's a

[12:19] dolomite gray.

[12:20] >> Dolomite gray, okay.

[12:22] >> Which I've almost bought I can't tell

[12:24] you how many cars this color.

[12:26] >> You know, I was talking with Dan

[12:27] Aykroyd. He's real involved with police

[12:29] stuff, and they got the LA Police Museum

[12:31] here.

[12:32] >> Yeah.

[12:32] >> And here's how old you are. You're an

[12:34] artifact. You're in the museum.

[12:37] >> Yes, I am.

[12:37] >> an Adam-12 display.

[12:39] >> They have an Adam-12 display, and they

[12:40] have a lot of memorabilia that both

[12:42] Marty and I

[12:44] donated.

[12:45] And

[12:46] it is one of the really hidden gems in

[12:49] Los Angeles. The LAPD Historical Museum.

[12:53] And it's on York in Highland Park.

[12:56] >> Park, okay.

[12:57] >> Yeah, which it which is interesting. I

[12:59] was born at Avenue 40 in York.

[13:01] >> Oh, is that right?

[13:02] >> where my folks lived

[13:03] uh when I was born. And my dad was

[13:06] working next door here.

[13:07] >> Okay.

[13:08] >> During the Second World War.

[13:09] >> And what did your dad do?

[13:10] >> He was a welder by trade.

[13:11] >> Oh, is that right? Oh, that's pretty

[13:13] cool. I didn't know you're an LA native,

[13:14] okay.

[13:14] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[13:15] >> Well, that's fascinating.

[13:16] >> my dad became an entrepreneur for a

[13:18] while and opened a Richfield gas station

[13:21] in Baldwin Park.

[13:22] >> Oh, okay.

[13:23] >> And it was the biggest pumping station

[13:25] in the San Gabriel Valley.

[13:27] We were on Garvey, which was the street

[13:30] that preceded the 10 Freeway.

[13:32] >> And how much was gas a gallon then?

[13:34] >> Well, about 19 cents.

[13:36] >> 19 cents?

[13:37] >> Yeah, I think I can see I see

[13:39] and then the gas wars would start and it

[13:40] go down about 16.

[13:42] >> Wow, there you go.

[13:43] >> I started working there when I was 10

[13:44] pumping gas.

[13:45] >> That's funny. That's right. Well, very

[13:47] good. Let's open the hood.

[13:48] >> Yeah, absolutely.

[13:50] >> Is it on my side here?

[13:51] >> It is down on the lower side.

[13:53] >> Oh, let's see.

[13:55] Okay, I'll let you do it here.

[13:56] >> Okay.

[13:58] >> Now, is that the original steering wheel

[13:59] in the back seat?

[14:00] >> That that's the original steering wheel

[14:02] back here.

[14:02] >> Oh, I see. Yeah.

[14:04] >> That's the original. I had this

[14:06] steering wheel done. It's a smaller

[14:08] diameter.

[14:08] >> Right, right.

[14:09] >> And there's no power seats in this. It

[14:11] goes forward and back.

[14:12] >> Yeah, you don't need power seats.

[14:14] >> yeah, and when you're sitting

[14:16] you are splayed like this for me anyway.

[14:22] >> You know, it's so funny when this when

[14:24] this came first came out, I imagine the

[14:26] Porsche enthusiasts were a bit

[14:28] snobby.

[14:29] >> Yeah, they were.

[14:29] >> Yeah, it was oh yeah.

[14:30] >> And they still are.

[14:31] >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, this

[14:33] time to get some love now cuz the prices

[14:35] have come back up. You know, people

[14:36] recognize it's a good-looking car.

[14:39] Uh they handle pretty well and with the

[14:41] turbo you can get some decent horsepower

[14:43] out of it.

[14:43] >> Yeah.

[14:43] >> Cuz it's not a heavy car.

[14:45] >> Yeah.

[14:45] >> And it's what, 180 with the turbo? Is

[14:47] that what it was?

[14:48] >> It it'll it'll come up to about 170. You

[14:51] know, you get it in that range. It's got

[14:52] a real low first gear.

[14:54] >> Right.

[14:55] >> And that was just to get you rolling.

[14:56] Dog leg transmission they always talk

[15:00] >> Have you had had an accident with it?

[15:02] No?

[15:02] >> No.

[15:02] >> No.

[15:03] >> Thank goodness.

[15:03] >> So, it's unmolested.

[15:05] >> It's unmolested and

[15:06] >> 120-something thousand miles on a

[15:08] Porsche is nothing.

[15:09] >> Yeah.

[15:10] >> These will go a long time.

[15:11] >> Yeah, I had the top end breathed on a

[15:13] little bit.

[15:13] >> Yeah.

[15:14] >> And you know, and we freshened it up and

[15:16] uh

[15:16] didn't want anybody to get in here and

[15:18] and clean this motor

[15:21] cuz you wind up with water down in the

[15:23] spark plug galley and you know, you

[15:25] start and then it starts misfiring and

[15:27] everything and I didn't want to

[15:28] mess around with that.

[15:30] >> was that way about my room with my mom.

[15:32] No, I don't want anybody

[15:33] >> Right, nobody

[15:34] washing anything.

[15:38] >> I mean look at Yeah, I think you could

[15:40] probably get a new pad here. I

[15:42] I would spring for the new pad.

[15:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's uh

[15:47] you know, I'm falling in love with this

[15:49] again.

[15:49] >> Yeah.

[15:50] >> It it sat for a the the whole pandemic.

[15:53] >> Yeah.

[15:53] >> I had a radiator issue.

[15:55] >> Right.

[15:56] >> And then we tried to find an original

[15:58] radiator. And this is again where you

[16:00] come into issues with cars this old, as

[16:03] you know.

[16:05] >> Uh we found one in Australia.

[16:07] >> Really?

[16:08] >> Yeah, but it was $1,500 to ship to ship

[16:10] it here.

[16:11] >> Wow.

[16:12] >> And so we took the original out of here

[16:14] and rodded it out about uh

[16:17] a year ago.

[16:18] And finally, you know, it hadn't run

[16:20] during the entire pandemic because of

[16:22] the radiator issue.

[16:24] And then I get it back and my wife and I

[16:27] are

[16:28] out cruising

[16:29] and I come up to a stop sign and I go to

[16:31] shift down into the first and it just

[16:34] and all the all the shifting bushings

[16:37] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[16:37] >> had gone.

[16:39] And then I got that in and got it taken

[16:41] care of. And then when it was in being

[16:42] taken care of

[16:44] the guy that's worked on it for 35 years

[16:48] said uh you've had a rat in your

[16:51] >> Oh, eating the wires.

[16:52] >> Yeah, eating the wires. So he replaced

[16:54] all the

[16:55] all the

[16:56] plug wires and everything and

[16:58] >> Well, look at the size of that

[16:59] alternator. What an enormous That's a

[17:02] That's got to be a 25-lb alternator.

[17:05] >> Probably at least that, yeah.

[17:06] >> I mean, you can actually got Mitsubishi

[17:09] makes one that's like like this big. You

[17:10] fit it right down there. It's probably

[17:12] twice the

[17:13] the amperage of that, too, but

[17:15] but very nice car.

[17:16] >> Yeah. Very nice car.

[17:17] >> Yeah, they laid this in here

[17:19] pretty nice. I think it was the 924S

[17:23] or they waited till the 944.

[17:25] >> Right.

[17:26] >> They basically cut up Porsche engine in

[17:28] half.

[17:29] And so, it gave it the four.

[17:32] Uh and that became a Porsche motor. This

[17:36] was again

[17:38] Audi developed.

[17:39] >> Right.

[17:40] >> With and then they put all the badging

[17:42] on and and did all of that stuff.

[17:43] >> Did you ever think of upgrading to the

[17:45] 944 or cuz I mean what you obviously

[17:48] really bonding with this car at this

[17:50] point. Yeah, so you've had it what how

[17:52] many

[17:53] >> 45 years. 46 years.

[17:54] >> 46 years.

[17:55] >> Yeah.

[17:55] >> And like two payments left or

[17:57] >> Yeah, only only a couple left.

[17:59] >> I mean, so why why this rather than the

[18:01] Corvette or whatever?

[18:03] >> I just got into this thing and then you

[18:06] know, I did a lot of racing in in the

[18:08] to have a high performance car as a

[18:12] you know, as a temptation on the street.

[18:15] >> Right.

[18:16] >> You know, became less of my

[18:18] my macho connection.

[18:20] >> Right, right, right.

[18:20] >> I figured you know, you can do all this

[18:22] stuff on a track and everything. And I'm

[18:25] the kind of guy that when I bought my

[18:27] first car in 1954

[18:30] two-door sedan

[18:33] it may not have been

[18:35] the newest car, it may not have been the

[18:38] best car, but it was the cleanest car.

[18:41] >> Right, right, yeah, that's funny.

[18:42] >> You know, I always tell my wife if

[18:44] something happens to me in a in a shop

[18:46] or or we're at Home Depot or something

[18:49] you know where to find the car. It's at

[18:50] the furthest spot in the parking

[18:52] >> Right, that's funny.

[18:53] That's funny.

[18:54] >> So, you know, I I just as you said,

[18:56] bonded with this car and and have always

[19:00] I you know, I mean, you look at this car

[19:01] from a

[19:02] side view

[19:04] just driving it the other day. I've got

[19:05] people, you know, you

[19:07] get this all the time. You get the

[19:08] thumbs up and the

[19:10] and then the other thing that I noticed

[19:12] I was up against a Camaro this morning

[19:14] coming here.

[19:15] >> Yeah.

[19:15] >> You know, and the guy hammers it like

[19:17] I'm going to race him.

[19:18] >> Right.

[19:20] Well, it seems to you know, it's funny

[19:21] because interesting about good design is

[19:24] it's timeless. Like this car looks

[19:26] probably it looks better now than

[19:27] probably at the time because at the time

[19:29] you you used to seeing Porsches look

[19:31] like 911s or 356s.

[19:33] And this comes along and it's like,

[19:35] "What?"

[19:35] >> Yeah.

[19:36] >> You know, but yet it it is I mean you

[19:38] could pretty much Well, it still uses

[19:40] same shape today basically. Panamera or

[19:43] any of those

[19:44] you see all the Porsches and I think

[19:46] their mistake was aligning themselves

[19:48] with Volkswagen in America cuz then it

[19:50] became, "What is it a Porsche or a

[19:51] Volkswagen?"

[19:52] >> Right.

[19:52] >> A guy buying a Porsche doesn't want

[19:53] people to go, "Hey, is that a

[19:55] Volkswagen?" You know, that was sort of

[19:57] the problem. And this was VW Porsche,

[19:59] right at the time.

[20:00] >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean they had they handled

[20:02] all the distribution and everything VW.

[20:05] You know, one of the one of the fun

[20:06] things about about the turbo when they

[20:08] said they're out of business I I took it

[20:10] up to a

[20:11] Pasadena

[20:13] Porsche to get the last turbo put on.

[20:15] >> They get the last turbo, yeah.

[20:17] >> And this is the last one we're we're

[20:18] covering you. Right.

[20:19] And and he was the one who recommended

[20:21] me to my guy John out at

[20:24] Modern Modern Auto Tech

[20:27] Technology in Pasadena and and uh

[20:31] you know, and John's taking care of it

[20:32] ever since.

[20:33] But we go out and we're driving in the

[20:36] thing and the service manager at at

[20:39] the Porsche dealership says,

[20:41] "I forgot about this car. You can run

[20:43] over a dime in this thing and tell

[20:45] whether it's heads or tails."

[20:46] >> Right. Yeah, yeah. That's the

[20:47] >> And driving up here I just wondered if

[20:49] the

[20:50] if I had lost the shock when we were

[20:52] doing the

[20:54] you know, it just is as stiff as a car

[20:56] can be and and

[20:58] when we were doing the VW Rabbit

[20:59] Bilstein up

[21:01] Bilstein gave me a set of shocks for

[21:03] this thing and I think they're the same

[21:04] ones that are in here probably now 35

[21:06] years.

[21:07] So.

[21:08] >> Well, it's sure well very nice. Can we

[21:10] take it for a ride?

[21:11] >> Absolutely.

[21:12] >> it. Let's do it.

[21:16] >> This is the other thing about closing a

[21:18] hood on this car anyway.

[21:20] I I went for a 10-cent part at a Newport

[21:24] Porsche.

[21:26] And the guy comes out, he takes puts the

[21:28] little thing in I can't even remember

[21:29] what it was.

[21:31] And he lays the thing down and he

[21:33] presses here and

[21:35] just put a cup in the hood of It was

[21:37] brand new.

[21:38] >> Wow.

[21:39] I have never driven one of these. Those

[21:41] would be a treat.

[21:44] >> One of One of the other things fall into

[21:47] this.

[21:47] One of the other things is I still have

[21:49] the original three of the four original

[21:52] mats.

[21:59] >> I like this little wheel.

[22:02] >> Yeah, you know, the the big

[22:03] >> though, isn't it?

[22:04] >> Yeah. The bigger one

[22:08] just puts your legs at this angle and I

[22:11] dealt with that for years and I finally

[22:14] tried to find one that had the

[22:17] a little different configuration here.

[22:20] No.

[22:21] >> No power steering.

[22:22] >> This is strictly a muscle car.

[22:32] So, as you know, boom, this thing

[22:35] really goes up Here we go.

[22:37] You feel every bump and

[22:39] >> You do feel every bump, but you got to

[22:41] remember this car is

[22:43] 50 almost 60 years old.

[22:45] >> Yeah. No, it's it's 46 years old.

[22:47] >> Well, I guess Well, I guess what it it

[22:49] shows you're a good driver, man. That's

[22:50] why I'm dyslexic. Okay. But, that's

[22:53] that's a long time ago.

[22:54] >> Yeah.

[22:56] >> And the fact that it still operates

[22:59] as a modern car I mean, you can drive

[23:01] it.

[23:01] >> Yeah.

[23:02] >> It's fast enough. It's fun to drive.

[23:05] It's easy to work on, reasonably so.

[23:11] When you bought this new, did it come

[23:12] with the tool kit?

[23:14] >> It's got uh

[23:15] It's got some stuff in the in the boot.

[23:17] >> Yeah, remember those days where you

[23:19] actually get

[23:20] >> Actually got a tool kit you could

[23:23] you could work on your own car.

[23:24] >> Yeah.

[23:26] >> I like when that turbo kicks in.

[23:28] >> Yeah, it it gives you a little boost.

[23:30] >> You know, I kind of like turbo lag cuz

[23:32] when you're driving by yourself

[23:34] >> Yeah.

[23:34] >> it's like you're getting a free jolt of

[23:36] you know, yeah.

[23:37] >> It'll wake you up.

[23:38] >> I mean, obviously if you're racing or

[23:39] something, you don't want that. But

[23:41] it's just fun to drive.

[23:43] >> My wife said the other when we were

[23:44] driving up here, yeah, she said, "Do you

[23:47] Do you enjoy driving this car?" I said,

[23:49] "I love it."

[23:50] You got to pay attention to it.

[23:51] >> Right, yeah.

[23:52] >> You know, it's not one of these where

[23:53] you

[23:54] everything's being done. You got to know

[23:56] about the gear ratio and range that

[23:58] you're

[23:59] you know, when you're coming up behind

[24:00] someone, slowing down to bring it down

[24:02] and

[24:02] >> And it's it's funny cuz there's nothing

[24:04] old-fashioned about the dashboard. It's

[24:07] still basically the the most sensible

[24:09] layout that they still use to this day.

[24:12] You know, speedo in the center,

[24:15] gauges easy to read.

[24:18] >> there's a lot of rattles. I've chased

[24:19] them from the beginning and uh

[24:23] never really been able to solve the

[24:24] little things like where the the the

[24:27] seatbelt ratchet.

[24:28] >> Yeah, yeah.

[24:29] >> Things like you know

[24:30] >> they did

[24:30] >> Yeah.

[24:30] >> Well, the thing I think the mistake they

[24:32] made was

[24:34] selling it as something less than a

[24:36] Porsche.

[24:36] >> Yeah.

[24:37] >> You know, a Volkswagen. It was like new

[24:39] Coke. They tell you for a hundred years

[24:40] new Coke's the greatest tasting

[24:42] beverage. Oh, no, we got a better one.

[24:43] Well, WELL, NO, MY HEY, I LIKE MY NEW

[24:45] COKE. I like my regular Coke.

[24:47] >> Yeah.

[24:48] >> Yeah, I remember when this came out, it

[24:51] they deliberately made it underpowered

[24:53] because they didn't want to undermine

[24:55] the 911. I mean, so you know, they they

[24:58] built the car with one hand tied behind

[24:59] their back. Oh, no, we can't Oh, no, no,

[25:01] it can't be better. Oh, no, it can't be.

[25:03] So, consequently, it's always a

[25:04] compromise.

[25:05] >> was al- almost as close in performance

[25:09] with the turbo as a 911.

[25:10] >> Right, exactly.

[25:11] >> And uh

[25:12] you know, and I and I have to say when I

[25:14] walked into the showroom on this thing

[25:15] and then I'd had the one that they

[25:16] loaned me for a couple of weeks and

[25:18] driven it

[25:19] and just really liked

[25:23] the

[25:24] the look of it, the feel of it.

[25:26] >> Yeah.

[25:27] That's what I loved about when they came

[25:28] out with the C8 Corvette. All the old

[25:30] guys, "It doesn't have round tail

[25:31] lights. It's not a Corvette." Yeah. You

[25:33] know,

[25:33] Porsche

[25:35] kind of like a Harley-Davidson. They

[25:36] have to keep building exactly the same

[25:38] thing. Oh, new hand grips for, you know,

[25:40] 2026.

[25:42] Yeah, you feel the turbo.

[25:44] >> that little kick in it. Yeah, it's fun.

[25:47] >> You know, I like any car where I can use

[25:49] all the horsepower all the time.

[25:51] >> Yeah.

[25:54] >> I drove a couple of McLarens and they're

[25:56] great fun, but you get you go, "Oh, this

[25:57] is fun." You step on the What? Wait, why

[25:59] am I in jail? What happened?" You know,

[26:01] you get you got arrested. What you you

[26:02] know.

[26:03] I mean, you and I come from the era

[26:05] where

[26:06] when you watched a car movie, the

[26:08] speedometer go 90, 91, 90, 100 mph and

[26:13] then that's like the end of the world,

[26:14] 100 mph.

[26:15] >> And that's the other thing I forgot.

[26:18] The original speedometer on this was an

[26:20] 85 mph speedometer with a big red 55.

[26:24] >> Yeah, and that's stupid.

[26:25] >> You know.

[26:26] So, I got rid of that a long time ago. I

[26:28] didn't keep what, you know, the original

[26:29] face.

[26:32] Probably should have, but nobody's going

[26:33] to put it back in.

[26:34] >> Yeah, that was Jimmy Carter.

[26:36] >> Yeah.

[26:38] >> Those are actually more dangerous cuz

[26:39] people had no idea how fast they were

[26:41] going.

[26:41] >> Yeah.

[26:44] >> You feel that turbo kick in?

[26:46] There we go.

[26:49] It gives you a little kick in the butt,

[26:51] though.

[26:51] >> Yeah, yeah.

[26:52] That's a lot of fun.

[26:53] And then the car is like on rails. It's

[26:57] I don't know if that's a function of

[26:59] 35-year-old Bilstein shocks.

[27:01] >> Yeah.

[27:02] >> May have given up a little.

[27:04] >> Yeah.

[27:05] You know, it's funny. I have had the got

[27:06] that Carrera GT.

[27:08] And I've had it since new. It's 2004.

[27:11] One day I'm going down the road and I'm

[27:12] hitting bumps and I'm jumping to the

[27:14] next lane. And I realize my shocks are

[27:16] depreciating like 5% every year. I just

[27:19] never realized how bad it was until I

[27:21] put new shocks in one. Oh my god, this

[27:23] is what it's supposed to be.

[27:24] >> Yeah.

[27:24] >> How old are these tires?

[27:26] >> Uh

[27:28] I think they're about 6 years old.

[27:30] >> Yeah, they feel a little like starting

[27:31] to get a little hard, I can feel.

[27:34] You feel like you want to slide.

[27:36] It really is a light car compared to

[27:39] even a modern Porsche.

[27:40] >> Yeah.

[27:41] I think it's 2,800 lb.

[27:43] >> Yeah, that's I mean, that's

[27:44] a lightweight now.

[27:46] >> Yeah.

[27:47] >> Fun thing about

[27:49] 200 horsepower or less is you can enjoy

[27:52] watching the tach sweep across.

[27:53] >> Yeah.

[27:54] >> You can look at the tach while you're

[27:55] driving. You know, most modern supercars

[27:58] you can't even take your eyes off the

[27:59] road.

[27:59] >> off the road.

[28:02] >> And you said your air conditioning does

[28:03] not work?

[28:04] >> No, I can't get

[28:05] >> You know, you should You know what you

[28:06] should put in this is vintage air. You

[28:08] ever heard of them?

[28:09] >> No, I haven't.

[28:10] >> They're a company. I put them in

[28:12] everything I have. It

[28:14] The air conditioning unit is it's it's

[28:17] it's this big.

[28:18] >> Really?

[28:18] >> It looks like a tiny old tomato. You

[28:20] know, everything is improved so much.

[28:22] The idea of putting a big, you know,

[28:24] 75-lb

[28:26] I mean, they're really unbelievably

[28:28] good. But, you should check it out.

[28:30] >> into that because

[28:31] >> you they make it. And what they do is

[28:32] they keep it so all your original switch

[28:35] gear

[28:36] >> Yeah.

[28:36] >> still works. Yeah.

[28:38] >> Well, that's something to look into. I

[28:39] just talked to my guy and I said, "What

[28:41] do we What do we" He said, "I'm going to

[28:43] have to go in and and check for

[28:45] something's leaking." I said, "Well, we

[28:46] know that."

[28:47] >> Well, this is probably freon, right?

[28:49] >> It is freon.

[28:49] >> Well, you can't get freon anymore.

[28:51] >> Well, you can kind of on the

[28:52] >> Well, you can, but it's crazy expensive.

[28:57] >> But, 134

[28:57] >> it's And then it's not It's really not

[29:00] worth it when you do it and it's only

[29:01] going to last for 2 months.

[29:03] >> Right.

[29:04] >> Well, you know, when uh

[29:07] Adam-12 ended in in 19

[29:10] 75, and then I did a uh

[29:13] uh another series We did two spin-offs

[29:16] of Adam-12 that we were going to do. One

[29:18] with Jo Ann Pflug playing my partner

[29:20] being

[29:21] >> Right.

[29:21] >> an early

[29:22] adopter of females getting into the

[29:25] field.

[29:26] And then the other one was with Mark

[29:27] Harmon being my partner and me moving

[29:29] into the place.

[29:31] Marty had said, "Find me something I

[29:33] have to do half-day's work and I can go

[29:34] down on the avocado farm in Fallbrook."

[29:37] >> Right.

[29:38] >> So, we had it all set up and then it

[29:41] didn't it didn't happen.

[29:43] But, in 1982, Jack Webb called me and he

[29:46] said, "You know, I want to have a

[29:47] conversation with you." And

[29:49] we met at the

[29:51] and Bull in in uh

[29:55] He said,

[29:56] "Listen, kid, I got

[29:58] 400 of the best then

[30:01] well-written scripts that exist.

[30:04] And uh

[30:05] we're going to modernize them and we're

[30:06] going to redo Dragnet.

[30:09] But, this time this is going to be your

[30:10] show." He said, "I'll do the voice-over

[30:12] narrative

[30:13] and Frack, meaning Marty, Marty'll be

[30:16] your partner. But, this is your show."

[30:18] And I said, "Great, I'm in."

[30:21] And uh couple days later, early in the

[30:24] morning, Buddy Hackett gave me a call.

[30:25] Buddy was a real good friend.

[30:27] >> Yeah.

[30:28] >> And called me and he said, "Hey, are you

[30:29] awake?"

[30:31] I said, "I am now." And he said, uh "Sit

[30:33] up.

[30:35] Turn on the television.

[30:37] Jack Webb is dead.

[30:39] They're just bringing his body out from

[30:41] the Sierra terror of

[30:43] bringing it.

[30:44] And that was uh that was the end of that

[30:46] endeavor. But uh

[30:49] Jack was a wonderful wonderful man to

[30:51] me.

[30:53] Very loyal. He had a stock company of

[30:55] people. You can look at

[30:57] >> from Dragnet radio days. Marty worked

[30:59] with Jack in the radio.

[31:02] >> Wow.

[31:02] >> You can imagine.

[31:04] And uh

[31:05] you know, so

[31:07] they had a relationship that went all

[31:08] the way back to a movie called The Halls

[31:10] of Montezuma.

[31:15] But he he uh

[31:17] he had a a stock company. They knew the

[31:19] way that Jack worked. Jack worked with

[31:21] teleprompters.

[31:23] I was very lucky in my life. I worked on

[31:25] two iconic shows, The Adventures of

[31:27] Ozzie and Harriet, where I started.

[31:29] >> Right.

[31:30] >> And they came out of radio, Ozzie and

[31:31] Harriet. And Ozzie used teleprompters,

[31:33] but he never insisted

[31:36] any other actor use them.

[31:37] >> Right.

[31:38] >> Jack, on Dragnet,

[31:41] would put a teleprompter in front of an

[31:42] actor, and the actor said, "Oh, I don't

[31:44] use teleprompters." Jack would take the

[31:45] teleprompter away and say, "Good. Now

[31:48] just don't blow your lines."

[31:49] >> Right.

[31:50] >> And of course the guy would blow his

[31:51] lines, and Jack would put the

[31:52] teleprompter back in, and then Jack

[31:53] would say, "Now let's get the day's work

[31:55] done."

[31:57] But uh

[31:58] you know, he uh

[32:00] was loyal to those people who knew the

[32:02] way that Jack worked and what Jack

[32:04] wanted.

[32:06] But it was devastating the day that he

[32:08] died and suddenly. He had a heart

[32:10] attack.

[32:11] >> I didn't realize he was so young. Would

[32:12] you say 62?

[32:13] >> 62.

[32:14] >> Wow.

[32:17] >> Yeah, it was uh

[32:19] >> Well, he came from that mad man era

[32:21] where everybody just

[32:22] >> Well, everybody smoked and drank.

[32:24] >> You know, Fred deCordova, the old

[32:26] producer of the Tonight Show, every day

[32:27] would be like a a highball or

[32:30] some sort of stupid mixed drink for

[32:32] lunch, you know.

[32:33] >> And you know who directed the movie

[32:36] Here Come the Nelsons, which was

[32:37] basically the pilot for The Adventures

[32:39] of Ozzie and Harriet.

[32:40] >> Was that Was that Fred?

[32:41] >> Freddie.

[32:42] >> Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[32:43] >> And then Ozzie said,

[32:45] "I know how to do this." And Ozzie

[32:46] directed every other episode until David

[32:49] started directing too.

[32:50] >> I'll tell you something else about Fred

[32:51] McMurray. You know who his father was?

[32:53] >> I don't.

[32:54] >> His father was Ponzi's partner.

[32:57] You know the Ponzi scheme?

[32:58] >> Yeah.

[32:59] >> Yeah, the two of them had

[33:01] these schemes that they they pulled into

[33:03] town in their own railroad cars.

[33:05] >> It was all Donald Duck.

[33:06] >> Oh.

[33:06] >> And they get money from investors and

[33:08] then the train would pull out in the

[33:09] middle of the night and they'd go to the

[33:10] next town.

[33:11] >> And they never got caught. How do you

[33:12] know How did I get caught?

[33:14] >> Yeah.

[33:14] >> But you didn't get caught cuz you were

[33:16] you you were out of town. There was

[33:17] hardly any communication between

[33:19] >> Yeah.

[33:20] >> But yeah, the Ponzi was his

[33:22] >> Yeah, I didn't know that.

[33:23] >> Yeah, Fred was a character.

[33:26] I know Fred came one day and said, "Oh,

[33:28] I had a little accident today.

[33:30] I hit another car." What kind of car did

[33:31] you hit? Said a big town car. I said,

[33:34] "When was this accident?" 1929.

[33:37] What What is a big town car? You know,

[33:39] he's thinking of you.

[33:42] You know, this thing is a lot of fun to

[33:43] drive.

[33:44] >> Huh?

[33:44] >> It's hard to believe it's a 47-year-old

[33:47] car.

[33:47] >> Yeah.

[33:50] >> I mean, you got a few rattles and stuff

[33:51] that you can probably take care of.

[33:53] >> Yeah, I got it.

[33:54] >> Some new bushings.

[33:55] >> Yeah.

[33:56] But, you know, it's still fun.

[33:58] >> Oh, yeah.

[33:58] >> And that's the key to the you know, I've

[34:00] always

[34:00] >> a little

[34:01] feeling the turbo spool up and

[34:03] and then catch it down. You get that old

[34:06] kicking in the rear end.

[34:08] >> Now, we started out running

[34:10] When we started hanging out, we got a we

[34:12] got a call I you know, when I was a kid

[34:15] and after the Second World War,

[34:17] I always remember the Indianapolis 500

[34:20] being on the radio and my dad doing yard

[34:22] work

[34:22] >> Right.

[34:23] >> Day and being out there with my dad

[34:24] listening to the race.

[34:26] So, I don't know if you remember Don

[34:28] Skagen and Jay Michaels who were PR guys

[34:31] at NBC for a long time.

[34:34] >> Jay Michael sounds familiar.

[34:36] >> And and so on

[34:38] early May

[34:39] my wife and I have just moved in at

[34:41] 1970. My wife and I have just moved into

[34:43] our house in Hollywood.

[34:46] I get a call from

[34:48] Jay Michael. He said

[34:50] do you know

[34:52] the Indianapolis 500? I said, of course.

[34:56] He said, would you be interested in

[34:57] going? I said, I'm packing.

[34:59] >> Yeah.

[34:59] >> Yes. So, we went back as a guest of the

[35:02] 500 Festival Committee in 1970.

[35:06] And it was a, you know, a whole bunch of

[35:07] celebrities. David Hartman was

[35:10] you know, just

[35:11] >> David Hartman, yeah, I remember, yeah.

[35:12] >> Yeah, and and uh

[35:15] you know

[35:16] just a whole group of guys and gals.

[35:20] And it was raining and delayed the race,

[35:23] and they come up where we're all sitting

[35:25] in Tower Terrace.

[35:27] They said, well, everybody headed back

[35:28] to LA. We need We need towels. It's like

[35:31] lap 160.

[35:32] >> Right.

[35:33] >> Hartman and I look at each other. We're

[35:35] not leaving.

[35:37] We're staying We're in this till the

[35:38] end.

[35:39] And we stayed till the end.

[35:42] And I I went back. I missed

[35:45] the year my son was born on May 27th,

[35:48] 1975.

[35:50] Cuz I couldn't figure out a way, but I

[35:52] did go back for practice.

[35:53] >> That's uh

[35:54] >> And and came home and Rocky had Michael.

[35:58] And uh

[35:59] then I probably in those years have

[36:01] missed five races

[36:04] since 1970.

[36:06] >> We all got out of the TV business right

[36:08] in time.

[36:09] Yeah.

[36:12] You got that turbo kicked in? There we

[36:13] go.

[36:16] >> Jay, come to think of it, I don't know

[36:17] that I've ever sat in this seat.

[36:19] >> I I just I I was going to ask you that.

[36:21] >> I think I'd have a more fun sitting here

[36:23] than

[36:24] >> Yeah, I remember when the

[36:26] when the Porsche 930 Turbo came out,

[36:28] >> Yeah.

[36:29] >> it made 260 horsepower.

[36:31] >> Yeah.

[36:32] >> And people talking about having it

[36:33] banned because it's too powerful.

[36:35] >> Well,

[36:36] >> funny how things change. I've got a a

[36:39] '62 Maserati 3500 in the garage there

[36:43] with fuel injection. And I'm reading the

[36:45] road test from a '62.

[36:47] >> Yeah.

[36:47] >> And in Road & Track it says,

[36:50] "Why anybody needs 220 horsepower in a

[36:53] sports car is beyond me, but

[36:55] >> I'll take it.

[36:55] >> you know, because that was considered

[36:57] just a crazy amount of power.

[37:00] I mean, turbo was a great idea. It

[37:02] seemed like it's free horsepower.

[37:04] >> Yeah.

[37:04] >> The exhaust gases are going out anyway.

[37:06] Why not use them? I mean, it just seems

[37:08] like common sense.

[37:09] >> Yeah.

[37:11] >> And less horsepower to run than a than a

[37:13] supercharger.

[37:15] I remember an ad they ran back in the

[37:17] '60s with the Comet.

[37:19] >> 100,000 mi at 100 mi an hour.

[37:21] >> you remember that ad? Do you remember

[37:22] that ad?

[37:22] >> That I do. And that's what happened to

[37:24] us.

[37:25] >> Yeah.

[37:25] >> They were at 24 hours at Indianapolis

[37:28] for speed, and we were averaging about

[37:29] 120 mi an hour.

[37:32] Uh

[37:33] Mercedes went to

[37:35] Nürburgring and ran 100,000 km. Saab

[37:38] went to Talladega.

[37:41] And they ran like 40 days or something

[37:43] like that.

[37:44] >> Yeah, right.

[37:45] >> And Nissan scrapped the campaign.

[37:53] >> You know, give it back to the Porsche

[37:54] guys.

[37:55] >> Go to replace every bushing,

[37:57] and you're going to rattle-free car.

[37:59] >> Yeah.

[38:03] >> Although it doesn't bother me. I'm just

[38:04] you know,

[38:06] I'm so used to driving cars with no air

[38:08] conditioning, windows open.

[38:09] >> Yeah, I'm thinking

[38:10] >> Yeah, it doesn't

[38:11] >> I'm thinking for sound in this if we

[38:13] were doing when we worked, we'd be in

[38:15] the dubbing studio looping all

[38:18] all this dialogue.

[38:23] >> Any other cars you like?

[38:25] >> Miatas and even get that I've got my

[38:28] little C-Max and I've got a 2009 Ford

[38:31] Fusion.

[38:32] >> Oh, okay.

[38:33] >> And I had a I had a show

[38:37] you know, with the Yamaha motor in it

[38:39] and then things started happening to it

[38:41] and I traded it in for that Fusion.

[38:43] >> Well, did you see my Ford Festiva with

[38:44] the show motor in the backseat?

[38:46] >> No.

[38:47] >> Oh, yeah.

[38:48] It's called the Shogun.

[38:49] >> Oh, really?

[38:50] >> It was built by Chuck Beck and

[38:52] what's his name? The other guy.

[38:54] >> That little car was a fun car. I would

[38:56] have it today. I bought cars with this

[38:58] in mind.

[38:59] >> Yeah, great.

[39:00] >> Either the car dies or I do.

[39:02] >> Yeah, yeah.

[39:03] >> and

[39:04] for a fun thing, this was in the vets.

[39:08] You know, weren't family cars. They were

[39:11] like my youth

[39:13] showing itself off.

[39:15] So,

[39:17] you know, right now

[39:20] I don't know what high performance car I

[39:22] would want to park in the garage.

[39:24] >> You must be the longest original owner

[39:26] of a 924. In fact, you should contact

[39:29] Porsche. I bet they'd do a story on you.

[39:31] That's probably I I don't think there's

[39:32] I've never heard of anybody else with

[39:34] one.

[39:34] >> Yeah. I mean, they're probably out there

[39:35] somewhere so.

[39:36] >> Well, there weren't a lot that were

[39:38] brought into the United States. They had

[39:40] to redo the bumper, the front and the

[39:41] back because of the you know, the all of

[39:43] that stuff.

[39:45] And uh

[39:47] you know, so

[39:48] looking up

[39:50] and

[39:52] basically, thank you because

[39:55] I got jazzed about this car again.

[39:57] >> Oh, yeah. Well, that's that's you need

[39:59] something to rejuvenate, you know.

[40:00] >> And uh

[40:01] >> Like put a little excitement in the

[40:03] marriage, you know.

[40:03] >> You know, I I did uh

[40:05] you know, like finding that original

[40:07] sticker on the thing.

[40:08] >> Yeah.

[40:09] >> You know, my

[40:10] you know, for if you haven't seen this,

[40:12] this was the

[40:14] the this was my turbos.

[40:17] >> Oh, yeah. All yellow.

[40:19] Replaced turbos. That's hilarious.

[40:21] So, about every 10,000 mi you replace a

[40:23] >> I was putting a turbo in the damn thing

[40:25] and and you know, and again, that's when

[40:27] Porsche was good to me

[40:29] on that front until

[40:32] they got some new management or

[40:34] something and somebody looked at a

[40:36] a a sheet somewhere that said, "What is

[40:38] this Ken McCord turbo replacement

[40:41] invoice?"

[40:49] >> Did they always replace it with the same

[40:50] turbo or an up updated version?

[40:53] >> Uh replaced it with the same one until

[40:55] my guy took the last one and rebuilt it.

[40:59] And and this thing has held

[41:03] from that time on and it's still going.

[41:04] >> would have come up with an auxiliary oil

[41:06] pump on that

[41:07] >> Yeah.

[41:08] >> You turn on the ignition and just

[41:09] circulates the oil.

[41:11] >> Well, you will interestingly what they

[41:13] did to try to solve that is they gave

[41:15] you an ignition delay

[41:18] where you could turn the key off, and

[41:20] pull the key, and the engine would run

[41:22] for whatever time you set it to.

[41:24] >> Oh, I see.

[41:24] >> And and so you would have it and allow

[41:27] that bearing to stop spinning.

[41:32] >> Well, Ken, thank you, my friend.

[41:34] Appreciate it. Great talking old TV

[41:36] shows and cars and

[41:38] it's it's uh yeah, it's just great. You

[41:41] have quite an automotive life. I didn't

[41:43] realize.

[41:44] You know, when you see people on TV, you

[41:45] never really know.

[41:46] >> Yeah.

[41:47] >> But just the racing and all that kind of

[41:49] stuff so

[41:50] Well, I hope you enjoyed this trip down

[41:52] memory lane and

[41:53] >> I did, very much.

[41:54] >> How many original owner 1980 Porsches do

[41:56] you find? Not many. This is especially a

[41:58] 924, so thanks for saving this piece of

[42:01] history.

[42:02] >> Well, you're welcome.

[42:03] >> There's a railroad tracks. We're going

[42:05] to get killed by a train. See you guys

[42:06] next week. Bye-bye.