Real Talk, Let it All Hang Out | Livestream 2023

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[00:32] wow that was anticlimactic and it was

[00:34] pretty incredible uh can everyone hear

[00:37] us and is the audio working correctly

[00:39] Mark decided to massively over

[00:42] complicate this

[00:44] um and Happy New Years to everyone

[00:46] hopefully you had a good time with your

[00:47] families yes Happy New Years to everyone

[00:50] I am greatly uh excited to be here today

[00:53] uh in the new studio space that we

[00:56] constructed this took what 15 years in

[00:58] the making uh this guy messaged me for

[01:01] like a week he's like oh my God I got

[01:03] all my foam phones

[01:05] I don't know how the glue is holding up

[01:07] it doesn't set yet Ikea desk yep my Ikea

[01:12] desk it was the only one in stock

[01:13] because there's a shortage of every

[01:15] single thing apparently oh I went to go

[01:17] buy some cubes for organizing my hard

[01:19] drives and stuff didn't it said it was

[01:21] in stock I go downstairs I'm like oh

[01:23] where is it at every High Bay rack is

[01:25] empty it's like sorry about that I'm

[01:27] like I just wasted an hour in this dog

[01:29] did you get meatballs at least I did get

[01:31] meatballs but they were sub part the

[01:33] people in the cafeteria were like what

[01:35] is this guy doing here why is he

[01:36] bothering us especially when I asked for

[01:38] extra lingenberry sauce they're like

[01:41] screw this guy

[01:45] um okay all right so I know there are

[01:48] some topics that Mark wants to talk

[01:50] about before we answer everyone's

[01:52] questions there's some patreon questions

[01:53] we need to go through yes and there are

[01:56] some lovely paid and unpaid questions we

[01:58] are going to attempt to ask every

[02:00] donated question we promise we will ask

[02:03] answer like we always do in every

[02:05] regular question at least the major ones

[02:07] we'll try to get to as well so what's

[02:09] the first topic you want to talk about

[02:10] before I get to about a billion patreon

[02:12] quotes yeah there's going to be a lot of

[02:14] questions it so let's just get this out

[02:16] of the way there's going to be this is

[02:17] going to be a long long session three

[02:20] hours is what I'm gonna tap out at okay

[02:22] Jack's gonna tap out at three hours I've

[02:23] committed to 15. this is gonna be like

[02:25] the Lamar Race 24 hours where I just

[02:28] crashed I'm gonna hit my head on these

[02:30] guys uh so you want to be a beauty and

[02:32] Fastbender is what you're saying no like

[02:34] yeah I'm not going to get into fast food

[02:36] that's actually a good topic but uh not

[02:38] tonight so the the format is podcast q a

[02:42] so podcast style and question and answer

[02:44] obviously as this Banner suggests here

[02:46] for those that are alright thank you for

[02:50] for the beef and cheddar money I'm sure

[02:52] that'll go very poorly for my health

[02:54] long term or at least March

[02:56] um and Adam thank you for your 50

[02:57] donation that's right wow yeah we're

[03:00] already starting with the money and

[03:01] that's uh you know let's get a lot more

[03:03] coming in here I gotta I gotta finish

[03:05] the remodel in here

[03:08] um I will answer this question right

[03:10] away forgetful foot uh we are doing a

[03:12] 987.2 Cayman video it's next month I'm

[03:15] trading my uh my gr86 with uh Greg from

[03:19] Chicago auto pros and he's giving me a

[03:21] stock car for a week or two to shoot a

[03:22] video this was uh another question uh

[03:27] about the Kirkland hoodie signature and

[03:30] uh he's considering a WRX for his next

[03:32] car have you guys had any experience

[03:33] with the 2020 23 model yeah we have a

[03:36] pretty long video on an orange one we

[03:38] did we dynoed it whole nine yards and it

[03:40] was in the uh comparison test we did

[03:42] with the

[03:44] Civic SI and a couple other vehicles

[03:46] it's a it's the best regular WRX in

[03:50] recent memory it's just kind of not

[03:52] great looking so you know there's

[03:54] nothing wrong with the car it's just not

[03:55] hyper exciting it does what it set out

[03:57] to do as being a daily driver that's

[03:59] all-wheel drive and somewhat fun to

[04:01] drive and a lot of capability the the

[04:02] body's way better than it used to be

[04:04] more rigid and all that but it's just

[04:06] it's a little Subaru and also has the

[04:08] RTV problems my gr86 has

[04:11] I mean I still think it's pretty good

[04:12] honestly I I enjoy driving it I don't

[04:15] know that it's my type of car to own but

[04:17] I'm going to leave it at that all right

[04:20] so let's get through the the topic

[04:22] questions before we start answering all

[04:23] these questions and yes so let's let's

[04:26] hit the topic so if anybody's thinking

[04:28] about you know donating or whatever you

[04:31] want to call it any sort of regular

[04:32] questions let's hold off that just for

[04:34] the sake of like hey

[04:36] um don't just so we can get through some

[04:39] of the initial topics because I really

[04:40] want to break this up in so it's not

[04:43] just all us answering questions

[04:45] and the the first topic that I want to

[04:48] get into is

[04:50] the FL Type R video that's all you mark

[04:53] uh Jack was not involved in that at all

[04:55] and thank God for him

[04:57] what a what a [ __ ] show honestly and so

[05:01] I'm gonna explain it just briefly

[05:04] I bought a tie bar and I bought a tie

[05:06] bar much like uh your X7 because I told

[05:10] you too yeah Jack's like oh man you

[05:11] should get it you should get an X7 it

[05:13] would be such a great deal complete your

[05:14] 401k yeah I bought all these cars and

[05:17] I've never used any resources from

[05:19] manufacturers or any of that before like

[05:21] that the X7 was like the worst buying

[05:23] experience ever like the worst dealer

[05:25] experience ever and I still stuck it out

[05:27] and bought it but the fl5 was the first

[05:29] car where

[05:31] uh we contacted the Honda reps or you

[05:33] made a connection for me with the Honda

[05:35] reps and they said okay maybe we can get

[05:37] you one through the region which means

[05:39] they allocate you a car and then they

[05:42] pick the dealer that it goes to and then

[05:44] they ship that car there specifically

[05:47] for you and the dealer has to agree to

[05:49] it so in this case they asked me what

[05:51] dealer I wanted to go to and I said well

[05:53] anything but Brilliance Honda because

[05:55] the previous dealership Crystal Lake

[05:58] Honda which no longer exists went

[06:00] bankrupt from screwing people over doing

[06:02] double loans the most Shady stuff ever

[06:04] so when the owner the the guy the owner

[06:07] who was in the video Kevin he had an

[06:10] opportunity because he worked for Toyota

[06:11] and then he worked for Honda like Toyota

[06:13] on the corporate side he they gave him

[06:16] an opportunity to buy this franchise

[06:17] because it was in the [ __ ] and he's

[06:19] like well uh I think he got a good deal

[06:21] on it I'm not sure about the financial

[06:22] part but then he had to turn all of this

[06:24] around but because it burned me as a kid

[06:27] I never wanted to deal with anything to

[06:29] do with that so when our Honda up said

[06:31] well you know this is who we use this is

[06:33] our agreement and the dealership

[06:34] actually has a lot of they work with the

[06:36] Chicago Auto Show the the owner works

[06:39] with that side of it and they have some

[06:41] connections in the media but for my part

[06:43] really all it was was

[06:45] Honda's like okay the car is coming

[06:46] which I never believed and then I got a

[06:48] call well it's on its way and then I got

[06:50] delayed in shipping it got stuck at the

[06:52] Port all this and finally it showed up

[06:54] and I went and talked to the owner and

[06:56] the owner's family and I'm like this is

[06:58] what happened to me in the past like

[07:00] what do you think and he explained

[07:02] everything to me like the fact that

[07:03] they're not the old dealership that they

[07:05] spent years trying to fix it that they

[07:07] understand how the industry has a bad

[07:09] name and they they only sell to local

[07:11] people like Illinois

[07:13] I for the gr86 series which is more for

[07:18] viewer series than it is for a personal

[07:20] purchase in any way uh the Toyota region

[07:22] set me up with St Charles and they only

[07:24] sell the locals as well which makes

[07:26] sense because if you look at and we

[07:28] talked about this too and there's so

[07:29] much in this video we didn't talk about

[07:30] we talked about carvana specifically why

[07:32] they're failing and carvana is failing

[07:34] because they did not understand how

[07:37] difficult it was to sell cars to every

[07:39] single state so if you have a company

[07:42] and you're like okay we have a buyer out

[07:44] of state every state it has different

[07:46] requirements for titling different

[07:48] paperwork requirements different loan

[07:51] requirements from the banks for each

[07:52] region so it became a mess and they

[07:54] couldn't meet all the state requirements

[07:56] so they made mistakes on paperwork they

[07:58] didn't get things to the DMV so they

[08:00] have all these customers that don't have

[08:02] titles they didn't have their their

[08:04] loans set up properly all this drama so

[08:06] they're like six months behind on

[08:07] everything they don't have the resources

[08:09] to do it so that's why they don't want

[08:10] to do it they're all small company local

[08:12] business that can only sell locally and

[08:15] I didn't say that in the video and it

[08:16] came across as like a plug for them like

[08:18] hey come to them and they they're going

[08:20] to help you out no they're not because

[08:21] they can't

[08:22] and the the other part was I did a

[08:24] really bad job of telling the story The

[08:26] reason I wanted to tell the story about

[08:27] the lf05 is the first Civic I ever

[08:29] bought was a red ex and I was like okay

[08:32] this was a big purchase for me and I had

[08:35] all of these like nostalgic feelings

[08:37] because I did everything much like you I

[08:39] traveled across the US it was the first

[08:40] car I could afford that was good that I

[08:43] did everything with so this red tie bar

[08:45] was like I said in the CRX video I

[08:47] wanted to close the loop I wanted to

[08:49] close out all these stories about these

[08:51] Honda cars that I loved as a kid that's

[08:53] why I'm doing the NSX video that's you

[08:55] know we're trying to go to Japan this is

[08:57] a disaster to put together that's

[08:58] something we'll talk about later but God

[09:00] is that a [ __ ] nightmare yeah so all

[09:02] these Honda videos I want to do they're

[09:03] because I want to do it and when I talk

[09:05] to the dealership and learned about all

[09:06] the [ __ ] that they had to deal with

[09:08] from a small business and just how much

[09:10] hatred is there for them the reason I'm

[09:12] looking at my phone is so I can answer

[09:14] the questions by the way okay yeah I'm

[09:16] not bored of this conversation that's

[09:17] the reason why I'm I'm looking up yeah

[09:18] we don't have a moderator today just so

[09:20] you know chin face is out getting hair

[09:22] plugs yeah he's finally getting his

[09:24] plugs thank God uh so yes I put him in

[09:28] the video and it was a lot longer the

[09:30] video was like 45 minutes because I had

[09:31] a lot of interview footage and I just

[09:33] got tired of it and I didn't feel like

[09:35] it flowed well and then I forgot to tell

[09:36] my own story I didn't tell my own story

[09:38] well that this was about repairing my

[09:41] past relationship with a brand that I

[09:43] had a lot of bad experiences with at the

[09:45] end of the video is me at the old

[09:46] dealership that got that closed and I

[09:48] was turning off the lights and it was

[09:50] supposed to be symbolic of me like

[09:51] closing the chapter on Old Mark and

[09:53] here's the new Mark with the new car but

[09:55] of course everybody took it as a giant

[09:57] Flex like uh how can you get a car for

[10:01] MSRP a Civic like this where nobody else

[10:03] can get it and and I told the owner of

[10:06] the dealership because he was really

[10:07] concerned they got a lot of hate like

[10:09] they got a lot of hate because they

[10:10] thought I was making an ad for them and

[10:12] no I was just telling my own story and I

[10:14] sent him an email about the four things

[10:17] that I thought honestly had happened in

[10:20] that video that I didn't account for and

[10:21] that's my mistake take because I didn't

[10:23] realize that people were so angry about

[10:26] like what's going on in the car industry

[10:29] um

[10:30] and it's the lack of inventory and

[10:33] dealer gouging that's going on right

[10:35] especially in the Enthusiast car market

[10:37] that people have to jump through so many

[10:39] Hoops in the case of the gr Corolla and

[10:42] the Civic these are gold standard

[10:43] affordable cars basically every

[10:45] Enthusiast car yes and it's just not the

[10:47] cheap ones it's the expensive ones the

[10:49] Z06 the gt3s like all of these are hyper

[10:52] expensive and then the dealers know that

[10:54] they can't get them so any car they get

[10:57] they're sitting on it and people are

[10:58] angry so if you can't get one locally

[11:00] you start going out of state you find

[11:01] out a dealer is not going to sell it to

[11:03] you because you're out of state and you

[11:05] they don't really do a good job

[11:06] explaining why which I just tried to do

[11:08] and then they want to charge 20 000 over

[11:10] sticker for a car that should be like 45

[11:12] Grand people are pissed off about it so

[11:14] they're naturally angry at me for

[11:16] getting a car for MSRP because I'm like

[11:18] entitled media like why should I get it

[11:21] um the other part which I wanted to talk

[11:23] about the media side is the vaporware

[11:26] aspect of these cars they're paying

[11:28] these companies are paying a lot of

[11:29] money in the case of Toyota Honda these

[11:31] are the recent ones they're paying a lot

[11:32] of money to send media on these trips

[11:34] and they get everybody excited for these

[11:36] cars like gr Corolla gre-6 Type R all of

[11:40] that and they're like look at how cool

[11:42] these cars are we're making it cheap

[11:44] it's an entry level pricing well the

[11:46] gr86 the same way you can get them right

[11:48] so then you see all this on the internet

[11:50] people get excited and then they go to

[11:52] buy it and there's only like 300 in the

[11:55] country they can't get them made and

[11:57] then people like are they are they

[11:59] artificially not making these cars are

[12:02] they artificially not making them so the

[12:03] dealers can make more money and I think

[12:05] the reality is when you look at gr

[12:07] Corolla and the FRS or 86 and the type R

[12:11] they're in factories where normal cars

[12:13] are made and right now because there's

[12:15] such a shortage on commodity cars they

[12:17] are not going to prioritize the

[12:19] Enthusiast cars over the commodity cars

[12:21] where dealerships need those to make

[12:23] money and if you're a if you're one of

[12:26] these brands

[12:27] let's be honest the demand on paper

[12:30] looks like it's huge for a Type R if you

[12:31] looked at the internet you'd think

[12:33] they'd sell a million of these cars but

[12:34] the reality is they would probably maybe

[12:37] sell fifteen thousand the first year in

[12:39] the US so they're not going to move

[12:42] around production for the specialty car

[12:44] to reduce production of a car they could

[12:46] potentially sell for like 250 000 for

[12:48] All That Matters to oems is if they make

[12:50] money and the reality is even with the

[12:52] specialty car factories uh by the end of

[12:55] this month you'll see our C8

[12:57] manufacturing video and I can tell you

[12:58] for a fact spending a lot of time with

[13:01] the engineers at that factory and the

[13:03] the engineers at the company at this

[13:05] point they're not artificially limiting

[13:07] how many cars they are building they are

[13:09] genuinely trying to build every single

[13:12] car they can the available Parts they

[13:13] have Porsche is the same way when you

[13:15] talk to them knowing some people who are

[13:17] suppliers for that company they are

[13:20] building every 911 they possibly can

[13:23] it's just the way the world works if you

[13:25] know anyone that owns a factory who

[13:26] builds people parts for components they

[13:28] will tell you the same thing there are

[13:30] part shortages yeah and and it's it's

[13:32] definitely affected these cars and it's

[13:34] they've prioritized the mainstream cars

[13:36] or the high volume cars over the

[13:38] Enthusiast cars that don't sell a lot

[13:40] and while it may be a lot of margin for

[13:42] the dealers at this point to scalp you

[13:44] know

[13:45] 10 000 units of a specialty car at a low

[13:48] price is Not Gonna Make It or Break It

[13:50] for a dealer or for a for an oem and

[13:54] then the last thing that I I have to

[13:55] apologize for is because I didn't do a

[13:58] good job of explaining my side of the

[13:59] story of why I got a tie bar and then I

[14:03] made it I came across in a way that made

[14:05] me sound like oh I deserve this car and

[14:08] honestly

[14:09] I I don't I don't it's not a dream car

[14:12] for me I'm happy to have a Type R but I

[14:15] would never pay over sticker for it if

[14:16] Honda like dropped it on me last minute

[14:18] oh you're gonna have to pay 10 000 over

[14:19] sticker I wouldn't have a Type R right

[14:20] now I just don't think it's worth it

[14:22] um and I think there's a lot of people

[14:24] upset with how this works on the back

[14:26] end with people getting cars or special

[14:28] treatment

[14:29] um this happens like all the time it's

[14:31] not like I think the difference is

[14:32] journalists For Better or For Worse and

[14:34] many of you I'm sure don't do this for a

[14:36] living or understand how this works we

[14:38] have a direct loan to the oems and the

[14:40] Reps wanna

[14:41] build relationships with Outlets Car and

[14:45] Driver Motor Trend running track have

[14:47] been buying fleet vehicles for long-term

[14:49] testers for decades at this point and

[14:51] the way it works for them is they call

[14:53] up their Regional wrap like hey I want

[14:55] to buy one of these and the Lexus Toyota

[14:58] whoever's doing it for them will

[15:00] facilitate the transaction they are

[15:01] paying MSRP they're not getting special

[15:04] special treatment financially but

[15:06] they're making sure the dealer that is

[15:08] working with whoever Outlet it may be

[15:11] like Topher got one of these cars in the

[15:13] case of the type R Rady and like five

[15:16] other different Outlets got these

[15:18] vehicles all Honda did was hook them up

[15:19] with the dealer and assure the dealer

[15:21] that they got an allocation the

[15:23] allocation that was going to said dealer

[15:25] wasn't being pulled from another

[15:27] customer right and they did so the

[15:29] dealers that got media cars for people

[15:32] like myself they also got another

[15:33] allocation in the case of this

[15:35] dealership their allocation winds up

[15:37] having to go to the Chicago Auto Show

[15:39] because they don't have another car to

[15:42] show at the Chicago Auto Show for a

[15:43] tight bar so he actually has to use his

[15:44] inventory to display it as a display

[15:46] piece so again it goes back to the fact

[15:48] that they're not making enough of these

[15:50] cars to meet demand and [ __ ] rolls

[15:52] downhill and everybody's pissed off

[15:53] because everything's too expensive you

[15:55] can't get fun cars for cheap and then

[15:56] you got me like a dumbass like oh look I

[15:59] got a tight bar nobody else can get it

[16:01] that's not what this is about for me I

[16:03] love I've been into Honda since I was a

[16:05] kid I own forums I was a partial owner

[16:09] in like Honda Focus forums for

[16:11] enthusiast groups for like five years

[16:12] before I sold it I've had between the

[16:15] two of us we have like 20 Hondas it's

[16:16] not just like hopping on the bandwagon

[16:18] of the cool car but that's what it

[16:20] sounds like and that's what it looks

[16:21] like doing this so you know anybody

[16:23] that's pissed off I apologize for that I

[16:26] just I didn't tell the story right so

[16:28] anyway uh it's enough about that there

[16:31] there's other stuff too with the media

[16:33] part of it

[16:34] um that I mentioned about

[16:36] the business side of this

[16:39] um and I think you know on the back end

[16:41] people don't understand it and I think

[16:42] you tell it really well about the media

[16:45] relationship with oems and how that

[16:46] works because people think we get paid

[16:48] to review cars there's a lot of

[16:50] misconception that journalists or media

[16:53] like here's a car we're going to pay you

[16:55] for it and that's how we make money and

[16:56] that's not how this works the way the

[16:57] transaction Works to put it pretty

[17:00] bluntly is oems get access to sorry

[17:04] forgive me Outlets journalists YouTubers

[17:06] vloggers whatever when I think

[17:08] journalists I think traditional Buff

[17:09] books car driver Run Track Motor Trend

[17:12] uh Automobile Magazine if that thing

[17:14] still exists would get vehicles from

[17:17] oems to do a story on the logistics from

[17:21] the vehicle it getting to you if you own

[17:23] a press trip all that is covered by the

[17:25] OEM you're responsible for gas and a lot

[17:27] of the fun stuff

[17:29] you are not getting paid by the OEM to

[17:31] review the car you're making money off

[17:33] the content you produce there's not a

[17:35] direct exchange of goods certain

[17:37] magazines like Motor Trend Car Driver

[17:39] Run Track will do paid advertisements or

[17:42] paid features that are specifically

[17:44] labeled as ads for specific oems with

[17:47] the general stories you're seeing aren't

[17:49] paid even our giant documentary films

[17:51] you're saying that we do like on Z06 Z

[17:54] it's the same thing they cover some of a

[17:56] lot of a lot or many of the logistics

[17:58] costs well they wouldn't but I have to

[18:01] like literally when we do some of these

[18:02] projects now I have to put my foot down

[18:03] like I want to do this I want to do

[18:05] these big videos but I'm not going to

[18:07] pay four thousand dollars for travel

[18:09] because we're not making that money back

[18:11] to do this and the Honda stuff at least

[18:12] on the NSX which we'll get to later this

[18:15] is because I want to do it Honda's not

[18:16] like oh here's some money we'd love to

[18:18] see an NS NSX piece that we don't care

[18:21] about anymore because we don't make it

[18:22] this is stuff that I want to do and it's

[18:24] stuff that comes out of my pocket and

[18:25] the reality is there's not unlimited

[18:27] money to do this stuff there's not a

[18:29] huge return you have to crank out things

[18:31] and in my case I want to do it a certain

[18:33] way and that costs money it really does

[18:36] cost money to do this so they're not

[18:37] paying correct traditionally at least

[18:39] unless it's a paid ad and it has we have

[18:42] to say that you know like even on

[18:43] YouTube you can't just put something

[18:45] that's paid and not say that it's

[18:46] sponsored you have to have a flag on

[18:48] that otherwise it's a terms of use

[18:50] violation and if you're big media like

[18:52] Motor Trend and all them you'll see it

[18:54] it's like sponsored by or like funded by

[18:57] or it has a title sponsorship to pay for

[18:59] it and that's how they do it to make

[19:01] supplemental money but we've never done

[19:03] that with a manufacturer before unless

[19:04] I'm mistaken on anything any car

[19:06] manufacturer how do you think I have my

[19:08] stos and my yeah your Lamborghinis yeah

[19:10] all my Equinox paid reviews are great

[19:12] right yeah

[19:15] um one thing I will say as well the

[19:17] relationship between oems and Brands is

[19:21] is interesting right it is still a human

[19:23] relationship so if you piss them off you

[19:25] [ __ ] on every single one of their

[19:26] vehicles and you through personal bias

[19:28] and you can't point out objective faults

[19:30] with the vehicle you know it's within

[19:33] their best interest and well not

[19:35] necessarily yours as the Outlook but

[19:36] it's within their best interests and not

[19:37] to want to do business with you right

[19:39] Ferrari's famous for if they get a bad

[19:41] review you're done with them yes and

[19:43] that's that's the pro and the con of

[19:45] this that's why we when we are negative

[19:47] we try to back it up with objective

[19:49] facts and I a hundred percent I would

[19:53] 100 agree with that it's a slippery

[19:55] slope with uh all this stuff where

[20:00] um you you realize that

[20:05] you can't just do whatever you want with

[20:07] this you just can't

[20:09] um and this is a good example like this

[20:11] NSX video uh that I did a long time ago

[20:15] which is six years ago I drove with

[20:18] their their Factory driver at that point

[20:21] and then I had a philosophical

[20:23] conversation with him about the new NSX

[20:27] at that time and I brought up the fact

[20:28] like you drive gt3s he's a Porsche

[20:31] driver he drives gt3s I'm like how does

[20:33] this compare and it put him in a spot

[20:35] where not only did it get him in trouble

[20:37] because he said it without saying it

[20:39] that he preferred the gt3s over the NSX

[20:42] and then I went on a tirade how they

[20:44] engineered out the driver of the car and

[20:47] I we I did not get Honda press cars

[20:50] after this video a Honda or Acura press

[20:53] cars after this video for probably four

[20:56] years I basically had to restart the

[20:58] relationship with them in the formal

[20:59] capacity yes and and that's the reality

[21:02] like it hasn't been uh it hasn't been

[21:05] flowers and roses and there's things

[21:07] that you can get away with and there's

[21:09] things that you can't and generally I'm

[21:10] brutally honest like I Know Jack always

[21:13] says it dude you know we're running a

[21:15] business here you can't just be a total

[21:17] dick about stuff so you bury it in

[21:20] sarcasm you try to find a grounded root

[21:23] of like what's really wrong objectively

[21:25] it has to be objective it's not just

[21:27] like I don't like the paint color this

[21:28] thing's this thing's ugly you know you

[21:31] can't get you know you could say that

[21:32] but I don't even that's why I don't talk

[21:34] about the exterior cars anymore like me

[21:36] going off about how it's ugly does the

[21:38] OEM know Justice at all they already

[21:40] know the car is ugly because that's all

[21:41] they hear about so I we try to focus on

[21:44] like how's it drive is there a

[21:45] transmission issue why do they do this

[21:47] it makes way more sense but we're

[21:49] probably more negative than most people

[21:51] I mean our our even our Z06 documentary

[21:54] if you watch that the final thoughts

[21:56] probably some of the most negative there

[21:58] are of any video on that car and it's

[22:01] negativity based in objective fact and

[22:04] based upon and engineering decisions

[22:05] they make but if you paint it that way

[22:07] for oems it's typically more accepted

[22:10] because you can have an open dialogue

[22:12] with an engineer right all engineering

[22:13] is I'm an engineer I can tell you this

[22:15] so when you work on a project is what

[22:17] compromises you can live with that's all

[22:19] it comes down to and that's how cars

[22:21] work too and people seem to forget that

[22:22] well I think that's how business works

[22:24] right it's about the engineering of like

[22:26] things but it's also like trying to do

[22:28] what we're doing is you have to find

[22:30] that balance of like what compromises

[22:31] are you willing to make to do this

[22:33] you're not going to get cars shipped to

[22:35] you from manufacturers if you just

[22:36] regurgitate all over all of them it just

[22:39] doesn't work that way so it has to be

[22:41] this honest relationship that gets built

[22:43] up and not only that it's about the

[22:44] viewership right our responsibility is

[22:48] to the viewers the people that are

[22:50] actually watching these videos that's

[22:52] why I started this because I wanted to

[22:54] hear about the things that nobody was

[22:55] talking about I wanted to learn about

[22:57] these things that nobody was talking

[22:58] about either they didn't have the

[23:00] knowledge to share the information they

[23:02] didn't want to spend the time because as

[23:04] we've done this we realize why Nobody

[23:06] Does it and you had a conversation with

[23:07] a guy from was it Car and Driver a Motor

[23:09] Trend one of the I think it was Motor

[23:11] Trend and he flat out told me that

[23:13] consumers are essentially too stupid to

[23:16] consume technical information people

[23:18] don't care obviously our business is

[23:20] based on that not being true but a lot

[23:23] of the former or let's call it current

[23:27] journalists in the industry don't

[23:29] understand anything remotely Technical

[23:31] and the Reps other than certain brands

[23:34] don't want to know anything technical

[23:35] because a lot of them are formerly

[23:37] journalists or don't come from a

[23:39] technical background and they don't

[23:40] value it and that's why you see

[23:42] marketing from certain brands the way it

[23:44] is that's why you see content being the

[23:46] way it is they like making sure that

[23:49] information that is available to

[23:50] Consumers is basically for the lowest

[23:53] common denominator yeah which with how

[23:54] expensive cars are now particular

[23:56] particularly in a performance capacity

[24:00] it's sort of depressing because you

[24:02] unfortunately or fortunately need a

[24:05] professional job now to afford any of

[24:07] the stuff that's new which is it's it

[24:09] and it goes back to like the whole thing

[24:10] with the anger level that people are

[24:12] having towards these types of products

[24:14] especially on the Enthusiast side

[24:15] obviously the enthusiasts are the

[24:16] loudest voice all the time of like what

[24:19] they like and they don't like but I

[24:21] can't believe how many people and this

[24:22] this goes back to the comment I made in

[24:24] that Civic video like we know that we're

[24:27] making videos and that people listen to

[24:28] them I'm not telling people to go buy

[24:30] cars I'm just saying like we like these

[24:33] cars we think they're a good buy and it

[24:35] I talk to people the viewership just

[24:37] like we talk to our family I can I mean

[24:39] like I looked at my dad's like

[24:41] healthcare helper she just bought a RAV4

[24:44] I'm on the phone with a like a really

[24:47] close relative they bought two RAV4s now

[24:50] they want to buy another one but they

[24:51] they're looking for something else so

[24:52] now they're gonna buy avenza

[24:55] um another family member has a a RAV4

[24:58] your girlfriend has a REV for you know

[25:00] like all these people in this short

[25:02] window that's just the people we know

[25:04] and there is a lot of sphere of

[25:06] influence and there's a lot of

[25:07] responsibility that comes with trying to

[25:09] be honest to people about what is good

[25:11] and what's not from not just a [ __ ]

[25:13] level of like oh look at all the

[25:14] features because everything is feature

[25:16] driven right like if it otherwise every

[25:19] single CUV and SUV would be identical

[25:21] which they pretty much are so they have

[25:22] to pack on all of this stuff to make it

[25:25] like oh look at all the things that we

[25:27] have all the bells and whistles that's

[25:28] the only way sales people can push these

[25:30] things to make them any difference other

[25:31] than price and at the end of it like

[25:34] everything's so complicated now it's

[25:36] really hard to weed through that and

[25:37] that's what our job is and it's becoming

[25:39] far more complicated to do than it ever

[25:41] has in the past because of of everything

[25:43] that we're seeing

[25:45] um sorry no no worries all right let's

[25:47] let's touch the the next topic as we've

[25:49] sort of beat that one death sorry if

[25:51] let's put anyone to sleep yeah I know I

[25:53] just wanted to get that out of the way

[25:54] clearly you know we could sit here and

[25:55] answer questions all day but there's

[25:56] some interesting topics

[25:58] um that I've wanted to cover for a while

[26:00] unplugging me I haven't I haven't done

[26:02] anything so I gotta go back and and flag

[26:03] them while you start answering certain

[26:04] questions

[26:06] um

[26:07] the Dell integration really quick you're

[26:09] going to see a couple more of these Dell

[26:10] Integrations in in well I mean it's

[26:13] integrated in every video like it's

[26:14] clear that I'm doing that uh we're going

[26:16] to be putting it into the Z Z06 Factory

[26:20] video that we're doing that should be

[26:21] out in two weeks

[26:23] um I'm trying to convert over a lot of

[26:25] my technology and pushing forward so

[26:27] you'll see me talking about HDR and I

[26:29] know that matters to about a handful of

[26:31] people but I want to make sure that the

[26:32] content is at the highest quality

[26:34] possible and now that I have equipment

[26:36] and I have all these resources to do it

[26:37] I'm going to keep leveraging that and

[26:39] the support so you're going to see that

[26:40] and I just want to be transparent about

[26:42] it you're going to see a lot more of it

[26:44] um

[26:45] this next one is a big topic

[26:49] Jack likes to talk about Corvettes well

[26:53] um you're gonna be hearing a lot more

[26:54] about Corvettes this year we are doing

[26:56] assuming it gets off the ground uh our

[26:59] first big like Factory backed by both

[27:01] oems comparison test between a certain

[27:05] company that makes four liters in German

[27:06] cars and a Z06 around a racetrack with a

[27:11] Pro driver same same tires cup 2rs a

[27:15] pretty good idea I assume you know what

[27:17] I'm talking about that'll be shot in

[27:18] early spring we have our Factory video

[27:21] coming out which is has very little to

[27:23] do with a specific car but how cars are

[27:27] made and one of the things we don't get

[27:29] to talk about often because most people

[27:31] don't find it interesting it's a

[27:33] manufacturing process people seem to

[27:34] forget that cars are made by people yeah

[27:37] four people they aren't made by some

[27:39] Amazon robot in some Factory somewhere

[27:41] and then airdrop to a dealership these

[27:44] take Supply chains yeah training just

[27:48] the engineering associated with Main

[27:49] factoring like I come from an Emmy

[27:51] background of mechanical engineer and I

[27:53] spent a lot of time in factories and

[27:55] just getting the workflow through it's

[27:57] incredible and you think about how

[27:58] complicated a car is how that has to be

[28:01] built by human beings hopefully you get

[28:03] to appreciate more of that in this video

[28:05] it's going to be very similar to our Z06

[28:07] film and that you're going to hear

[28:08] directly from Engineers people that

[28:10] media typically doesn't get access to

[28:12] and we're going to try to explain how a

[28:15] car is made and the Beautiful part is

[28:18] it's not only just that like how all of

[28:20] them are made Jack got to see his own

[28:22] cargo down the line and while we're

[28:25] trying to correct the mistake I made

[28:26] with fl5 Type R like then hey I got this

[28:29] car this is this is how I would have

[28:31] wanted to do and that's what we did with

[28:32] Jack's Car it's an unbelievably rare

[28:35] opportunity that you never get to see of

[28:37] having access to the people that

[28:39] designed everything seeing them make it

[28:41] and then seeing your own car go down the

[28:43] line but really for the more for me it

[28:45] was I think I was more excited than you

[28:47] to see this honestly I didn't get to see

[28:49] Jack's Car go down the line but when we

[28:50] want to shoot again to see the level of

[28:54] like

[28:55] I I got so excited about the paint booth

[28:58] right like how the hell I am this is

[29:00] what I asked the engineers and he's

[29:01] probably what the [ __ ] is wrong with

[29:02] this guy I asked them how they got the

[29:04] paint off the spray booth greats like

[29:07] all the parts that go through all the

[29:09] hang on panels like all that overspray

[29:10] gets on grates like how do you clean

[29:12] that the carts come in clean and they go

[29:15] out with paint on them how do they get

[29:17] the paint off the carts that go through

[29:19] like all the logistical nightmare of all

[29:21] this from ventilation it's just amazing

[29:23] and I hope we capture just if we capture

[29:26] 10 of all that in this video they'll

[29:28] feel pretty good about it and bottom

[29:29] line is

[29:30] I think people really like it I hope so

[29:33] at least

[29:33] um it's a very very cool story and the

[29:36] people involved much like our original

[29:38] Z06 video are amazing they're very

[29:40] passionate they're they're happy to be

[29:43] there and I was telling mark because

[29:44] this this was a project that took many

[29:46] many different trips to film all Yes uh

[29:49] the first time I was there Mark's like

[29:50] oh how was it and he and I make fun of

[29:52] Corvettes yeah of course it's easy right

[29:54] the stereotypes are often true and I'm

[29:56] like these people are really happy to be

[29:57] here and he's like no no no they put on

[29:59] a face and when you're actually there

[30:01] with them they were happy to be there

[30:03] it's the sad truth is or the the pro

[30:06] depending on who you are that's sort of

[30:09] the Apex of American cars made here in

[30:11] the US is the Z06 and the all the future

[30:13] performance variants it's about as good

[30:16] as American manufacturing gets here now

[30:18] that the NSX Type S is dead right that

[30:21] Ohio plane isn't building the NSX

[30:23] anymore I can't really name another

[30:25] American Supercar that's built here yeah

[30:28] I mean you could get into the the

[30:29] boutique manufacturer yeah like that

[30:32] type of stuff but yeah to that to that

[30:34] level yeah we just don't see it so it is

[30:36] special especially if you're in the

[30:37] United States I I there's this mixed

[30:40] thing of like manufacturing going away

[30:42] and all these jobs going away and we've

[30:44] seen it decimated and there's like a lot

[30:45] of good reason why it has and there's

[30:47] all these internal politics someone said

[30:49] Ford GT the Ford GT was built in Canada

[30:51] and it was a multimatic car yeah so or

[30:54] was it multimatic yeah it was multimed

[30:55] okay or it wasn't actually assembled by

[30:57] Ford per se yeah so that that's even

[30:59] that's like a race division you know

[31:01] that put that thing together just like

[31:03] uh like the GT350 are like race cars the

[31:06] multimatic cars those were not even

[31:08] through this like a traditional assembly

[31:10] line but I mean anyway really it's just

[31:12] special because we don't see that level

[31:14] of manufacturing everything's gone you

[31:16] know the jobs are gone so you see these

[31:17] people at the Pinnacle like this is the

[31:20] best that it could possibly be for those

[31:22] those workers and the people there they

[31:24] have a lot of budget they have a lot of

[31:25] respect and it just shines through which

[31:28] you know hopefully your video captured I

[31:30] hope so so anyway that's a long day trip

[31:32] in a sex video so we've been talking

[31:34] about this for about a billion years at

[31:35] this point we've already shot let's call

[31:37] it the meat and potatoes of the video

[31:39] the thing we've been trying to do and

[31:41] it's the it's been my job in some ways

[31:43] I've failed at this but it's also the

[31:45] joys of dealing with uh Japanese and

[31:48] American Honda at the same time and

[31:50] trying to get this to work correctly is

[31:53] many of the teams or team members of the

[31:55] original NSX the Gen 1 have pseudo

[31:59] agreed to come out of retirement to talk

[32:01] about this car Yahara some of the

[32:03] technical people who have worked on the

[32:05] original car have all agreed to be on

[32:07] video and initially when Honda when we

[32:10] approached Honda about this because this

[32:11] is a it's not it hasn't been done by an

[32:14] American team yet to do a documentary on

[32:16] this car while these people are still

[32:18] alive and a little bit fun stuff and as

[32:20] soon as we talked about the logistics

[32:22] involved with it Honda North America uh

[32:26] quite frankly doesn't give two shits

[32:28] about the genuine NSX and the Gen 2 the

[32:30] hybrid car is sort of uh the unloved

[32:34] child of the family it's not

[32:35] particularly valued by Japan and wasn't

[32:39] the most successful car here in North

[32:40] America so their enthusiasm to support

[32:43] this project has been interesting yeah

[32:46] and basically a lot of promises on their

[32:48] end fell through so we're trying to now

[32:50] get this come full circle with support

[32:53] from certain members in Honda and King

[32:56] Motorsports specifically yeah so that

[32:58] I'm going to leave it at that this is

[33:00] the longest project that I've ever tried

[33:02] to get get done

[33:04] um because I wanted to like again it's

[33:07] about closing the loop of all my

[33:08] favorite Honda cars and I wanted I

[33:10] really wanted to get these guys on

[33:11] camera before they're gone and it's

[33:14] it's just more it's more difficult than

[33:16] I thought and it's a lot of money like

[33:18] international travel like somebody's got

[33:20] to pay for that like I'm not just gonna

[33:21] go and do like hey I wanna I wanna

[33:23] interview all these guys and you know

[33:25] bring them out of retirement for the

[33:26] sake of a video that advertises a brand

[33:28] without having some of those Logistics

[33:30] I'm not asking you to get paid but

[33:32] something's got to be covered from it

[33:33] and we haven't been able to to get to

[33:35] that place and I'm like we have probably

[33:38] we have so much stuff shot for this

[33:40] thing already that it's like when they

[33:42] talk about projects that sit in the can

[33:44] for too long it's a bad sign honestly I

[33:47] think what we have is great but we don't

[33:48] have the final story and I don't just

[33:50] want to talk about the American side of

[33:53] the NSX because that's nothing other

[33:55] than the current car right nothing and

[33:56] even then the current car is not all

[33:59] that exciting and I think it's a car

[34:01] that came out too early for its own good

[34:04] and while the type S I mean from a

[34:06] technology perspective the fact that

[34:08] they made a hybrid Supercar that was all

[34:10] aluminum you know all these things that

[34:12] you want and was it the price point it

[34:14] was very very impressive but I think

[34:16] it's sort of been made irrelevant by

[34:17] everything else that's come out yeah the

[34:19] fact that it wasn't a focused car yeah

[34:21] right yeah and I mean we're going to

[34:23] talk more about that I think when we get

[34:24] the NSX video out I I will talk more

[34:26] about the differences between the old

[34:28] and new and some of the old and new

[34:29] Honda mentalities and the split

[34:32] internally I think there's a huge split

[34:34] between the Japanese Engineers the

[34:37] American side what we want versus what

[34:39] they want leadership it's just this

[34:41] weird like weird disconnect between what

[34:45] everybody wants to do and then the

[34:46] long-term vision of the brand which is

[34:48] not internal combustion it's hybrid and

[34:52] it's electric only so these types of

[34:54] cars that we're talking about are like

[34:56] we're over it you know like some of the

[34:58] American team at Honda here is great our

[35:00] rep is amazing yeah yeah

[35:02] um some of the leadership we've met have

[35:03] been very very nice to be around like

[35:06] Jonathan river is the guy we interviewed

[35:07] for Integra the first time around great

[35:09] guy just a weird disconnected brand I

[35:12] think in some of these cars and some of

[35:14] these

[35:14] there's a disconnect I feel like between

[35:16] marketing leadership and some of the

[35:18] engineers yeah and it it's troubling

[35:20] like if you compare this to GTR someone

[35:22] brought it up in the comments and again

[35:24] that's why I'm looking at my phone

[35:26] um Nissan has no budget they have no

[35:28] money but their team members care about

[35:31] cars that have been dead for 40 years or

[35:33] 30 years like if you talk to really any

[35:36] of them Dan pass specifically Jonathan

[35:37] about Legacy Nissan products they perk

[35:40] up and they are more excited to talk

[35:42] about those things and I've I could ever

[35:44] be myself and that shows up like

[35:46] tomorrowson the gentleman we had in both

[35:48] Z and GTR it really is his life's work

[35:51] yeah and he's made it his mission in

[35:53] life to talk about those cars and

[35:55] celebrate the people who worked on them

[35:56] obviously including himself but

[35:58] celebrate those products it's it's a bit

[36:00] disheartening that Acura Honda doesn't

[36:03] have that same I think I don't know I

[36:06] think they're passionate about it but

[36:07] being passionate about it in the US

[36:09] where a lot of these cars are not

[36:10] designed is different than the actual

[36:13] like parent company that's to do doing

[36:15] all the engineering and development I

[36:16] mean there's only certain level they can

[36:18] go to be like this is what we want and

[36:21] even though you may be the primary

[36:22] market for a lot of these sales they

[36:24] still like they're not making the car

[36:27] the Japanese are making the car so you

[36:29] it's it's really hard to thread that

[36:31] needle and get these people to to really

[36:33] work together but every brand is like

[36:36] that you'll hear it from the German

[36:37] Brands the U.S side to the Germans don't

[36:39] really work cohesively the Koreans are

[36:42] very very separated you know most of the

[36:44] Korean brands that we see in the United

[36:45] States they're there purely for product

[36:48] planning and like marketing and all that

[36:49] they're not like we're not coming up

[36:51] with anything in the U.S for any of like

[36:53] the Hyundai and Kia stuff other than you

[36:55] know market trends potentially but uh

[36:57] that's a lot of inside baseball Jack is

[36:59] there any other topics you want to

[37:00] answer before we answer some of the paid

[37:01] questions and patreon questions I will

[37:03] tell you what we have in the can and

[37:05] we'll we'll cover that in a little bit

[37:06] uh we'll cover whatever is left there's

[37:09] some other BS topics that I want to hit

[37:11] but let's get right into

[37:14] um

[37:15] the general top general questions and

[37:18] the uh can you go back and flag all

[37:20] these while you're doing the patreon

[37:22] stuff well starting off with that

[37:24] all right so as we promised our loyal

[37:27] patreon members we are going to attempt

[37:30] to answer as many questions as possible

[37:31] and this time around I will actually go

[37:34] back and whatever I don't answer Mark or

[37:36] I will comment and try to answer

[37:39] um

[37:40] the first question is oh man we got a

[37:43] lot bear with me as I scroll to the

[37:45] beginning of this

[37:47] man there are a lot of questions

[37:52] are there executive and bullet are the

[37:55] executive and bullying tears real how

[37:57] did I miss this announcement yes we do

[37:59] have a Boolean and executive tier for

[38:01] our patreon and they are real I don't

[38:04] necessarily suggest you join those tiers

[38:06] but if you feel like pissing away your

[38:08] money feel free yeah it's there a joke

[38:11] for just people who want to donate

[38:12] because we constantly on patreon get

[38:13] people that are just like I just want to

[38:15] give more do you have another tier so we

[38:17] created I think it was bullion boys

[38:18] where all we talk about is gold bars and

[38:21] you know I I it's a joke it's sarcasm

[38:24] it's not like we're talking about

[38:26] patreon essentially allows us to run

[38:28] some of these big docu films at a loss

[38:30] because often like things like the old Z

[38:32] video or a good example they didn't make

[38:34] money right no and we spent what a week

[38:36] there to do the Z video yeah and what

[38:39] three weeks editing but the Z video is a

[38:41] perfect example of why we do this you

[38:42] have a team that's passionate about it

[38:44] and they didn't have a lot of money to

[38:45] work with to and re-engineer that car

[38:47] and work with it but they put everything

[38:48] they had in terms of passion to make

[38:50] that car and get it done so in a away

[38:52] like for me I don't have a problem doing

[38:55] that so much but that was the case it

[38:57] was a breaking point for me because I

[38:59] spent a lot of money for that trip and

[39:01] we didn't make it back so that's where

[39:03] the turning point for me personally as a

[39:05] businessman or whatever you want to call

[39:07] it I'm like Jack we can't lose money

[39:09] doing this stuff you just can't so we've

[39:11] had to be a lot more smart to sell my

[39:13] shirt on yeah Jack Jack sold all the

[39:15] supercars how many factories did you

[39:17] have to take offline well thankfully uh

[39:20] BMW and Audi and VW still use piano

[39:23] black so I'm doing all right okay good

[39:25] um what happened to the S2000 mods video

[39:27] sooner or later that'll come out as many

[39:30] of you may or may not have been watching

[39:31] the gr86 series the original plan was to

[39:35] compare that to the S2000 because of all

[39:37] our projects this year I just got a lap

[39:39] time done and we sort of talked about it

[39:42] in between I think the S2000 outside of

[39:44] maybe another set of wheel is going to

[39:45] sit the way it has been for a long time

[39:48] you sort of ruined that car or didn't

[39:49] ruin it by widening out the fenders for

[39:53] the bigger tires but past that it's

[39:55] pretty much the way it's been for a long

[39:56] time right it has yeah it's it's been

[39:58] that way for a long time uh Kristoff

[40:01] asks thoughts on Ford canceling the

[40:03] fiesta and focus in Europe two of the

[40:05] most iconic models will not be replaced

[40:07] once this model year ends I think when

[40:10] you talk to the Ford folks and I've got

[40:12] to spend he and I got to spend a lot of

[40:14] time with the head of Fort performance

[40:15] they are focusing on being a global

[40:18] brand and for them Financial For Better

[40:20] or For Worse it means all of the

[40:22] products they sell have to be able to be

[40:24] sold in a global capacity so what that

[40:28] means is if you can't sell the focus in

[40:31] Fiesta here in your biggest markets it's

[40:34] not going to be worth it to them so

[40:35] they're going to be focusing on SUVs is

[40:37] it sad yes is it the way Ford works

[40:40] also yes speaking to that guy you know

[40:43] each brand has its own identity and

[40:45] philosophy about their products what

[40:47] he's seen most proud about versus

[40:48] individual products like gt350r GT500

[40:53] raptor r regular raptor is that they

[40:57] have a performance variant of nearly

[40:59] every vehicle they sell and that's what

[41:01] he was excited about the fact that they

[41:03] have such a broad number of products and

[41:05] all the markets are sold in which is a

[41:07] very different perspective than I'm used

[41:09] to and that sort of they're business

[41:11] people for their business people he's

[41:14] proud that Ford performance can build

[41:15] cool cars and then they make a shitload

[41:18] of money

[41:20] sorry

[41:21] oh my god dude I hope that's a fake

[41:24] account I had to put it up there I'm

[41:26] like I I was like at your what you were

[41:29] talking about was also amusing but when

[41:30] I saw this my brain broke uh all right

[41:33] we'll answer some uh more uh patreon

[41:36] questions while this is going

[41:38] um

[41:40] I answered your question Jay

[41:43] uh uh when I am streaming Spotify what I

[41:47] notice or benefit from any of the

[41:48] qualities depicted on your audio graphs

[41:50] including your longer uh reviews so the

[41:52] way the audio tests work we have a video

[41:55] that you guys can look up on it

[41:57] um we have a gentleman that helps us who

[42:00] is a audio engineer and is a supplier

[42:02] for automotive oems in the audio space

[42:05] we use a series of

[42:08] software programs that essentially

[42:10] measure the speakers objectively and I

[42:12] can tell you for a fact even at Spotify

[42:14] as long as it's not horribly compressed

[42:17] and you know the compression doesn't

[42:18] sound like it's coming out of the

[42:19] bathtub

[42:21] um you can hear when an audio system is

[42:24] not good even with Spotify I think

[42:26] that's a fair statement isn't it Mark

[42:27] you can so that's an inter I really am

[42:30] into this and I don't want to get too

[42:31] deep into into the woods because we

[42:33] could do a whole video about it again uh

[42:35] the way I test it is three ways you do

[42:38] Bluetooth

[42:39] try to do Bluetooth because there's a

[42:41] totally different chipset for testing

[42:43] Bluetooth audio in the car and almost 99

[42:45] percent of cars are not up to date

[42:48] they're on the like three revisions back

[42:50] or two revisions back on Bluetooth

[42:51] chipsets so it's really you're not

[42:54] getting the max quality and there's a

[42:56] ton of compression and the the whole EQ

[42:58] roll off is like okay here here's the

[43:00] flat graph of it because there's so much

[43:03] compression artifact like okay let's

[43:04] roll off the highs and roll off the lows

[43:06] and what you have left with is just the

[43:08] middle part and then they do all this

[43:10] noise reduction [ __ ] so Bluetooth is

[43:12] really bad on a lot of cars and then I

[43:14] listen to find out which one is good and

[43:15] the Volvo was really good the BMWs are

[43:18] typically really good and it's almost

[43:19] always tied to Bowers and then uh

[43:23] Spotify if you're connected through

[43:24] Android auto and apple carplay wired is

[43:27] really your best option Wireless is

[43:29] there's some level of compression that

[43:30] changes because your signal strength

[43:32] changes for Wi-Fi so there's some

[43:34] buffering effect but typically wired is

[43:36] the best

[43:37] um but in short you can you can tell it

[43:38] you can tell difference I'm sorry yeah

[43:40] and the audio test we do one of them is

[43:42] frequency response and the other one's

[43:44] just showing General curve General curve

[43:46] shows whether you have too much high too

[43:48] much low what frequency is being rolled

[43:50] off and what's not yeah it's complicated

[43:53] but it is accurate and that's why we do

[43:54] it and the reason why it's not on the

[43:56] screen for 40 seconds is it's YouTube

[43:58] you can press you can pause it yeah and

[44:00] it's hard we need to we did do an audio

[44:01] testing video explaining a lot of this

[44:03] but what we really need to do is sit

[44:05] down and explain the graphs the two

[44:07] major ones you're going to look at is

[44:09] frequency response and SPL which is

[44:11] sound pressure level you just look at

[44:13] those graphs it should be very very like

[44:17] flat as much as possible there's always

[44:19] going to be a roll off in the highs and

[44:20] a little bit on the low because the

[44:21] speakers can't produce the entire

[44:23] frequency range in a car it's impossible

[44:24] so when you see a graph that's like the

[44:27] base is up here and there's huge drops

[44:29] all over the place that's typically

[44:31] where you hear it audibly because your

[44:32] ears are really sensitive to changes in

[44:36] like sharp changes in tone like or are

[44:39] sharp changes in volume change and

[44:41] that's sometimes they roll off volume

[44:42] two which is the worst but when you see

[44:44] a graph that's more flat that's

[44:46] typically a system that's had more money

[44:48] or time spent in engineering that's

[44:50] that's where I'll leave it with that and

[44:52] what what's the worst audio system we've

[44:54] heard to just quickly answer one of the

[44:56] super chat questions

[44:58] the Ridgeline was probably the worst car

[45:00] we've ever tested it sounds like

[45:02] literally phone speakers in the car

[45:04] everything about it is bad it's it's got

[45:07] the worst if you ever want to get in

[45:08] there

[45:10] um

[45:10] so the the test that I did was a song

[45:13] that started with acoustic and I got

[45:15] electronic like bass in it so the

[45:17] acoustic is like oh yeah everything's

[45:19] level and then the bass kicks in and all

[45:21] the acoustic guitar disappears out of

[45:24] the song because it's like trying to

[45:26] protect the sound system because it

[45:28] can't reproduce the bass I mean it's

[45:29] like almost comical how bad it was they

[45:32] spent probably 20 on it like on the back

[45:35] end if that 20 bucks yeah I'm sure the

[45:37] piece Parts alone were like ten dollars

[45:39] uh will you review uh the LC 500 coupe

[45:43] with the new handling characteristics

[45:44] it's an LC 500 so we will try to get one

[45:46] in the Press Fleet yeah for sure um any

[45:49] news on the upcoming rear-wheel drive

[45:51] six cylinder platform for Mazda we will

[45:54] be doing a video in the following months

[45:56] on that don't be too worried about that

[45:58] uh any thoughts on the

[46:01] b9.5 A4 I'm looking to replace my G20

[46:05] 330i Audi and us have a interesting

[46:09] relationship

[46:10] um they aren't particularly good about

[46:12] getting his press cars they were very

[46:13] kind and finally got us an RS3 but they

[46:17] are they just don't care about the

[46:18] Midwest basically we have to be in one

[46:20] of the coasts to get cars from them in

[46:22] any real capacity so that's where we're

[46:24] at if I can ever get an A4 I'll tell you

[46:26] but

[46:27] the three series is a pretty good

[46:30] platform we have an es right now I

[46:32] picked it up because we gave the Es as a

[46:34] um one of the luxury or mid-sized car

[46:37] contenders and being in it while it is

[46:39] very quiet and it is very comfortable

[46:40] compared to you know modern claw or one

[46:43] of the rear-wheel drive platforms it's

[46:45] definitely lacking in any form of

[46:46] Dynamics

[46:49] um I'm trying to think what else uh will

[46:51] we be able to get a m340i if any of you

[46:54] guys wanted to take a whiskey shot at my

[46:55] mention of the b-58 uh I've asked BMW so

[46:59] I could drive the rear wheel drive

[47:01] variant of that m340i for literally

[47:03] years and BMW much like Audi is terrible

[47:06] at getting his cars they try their best

[47:08] but the Midwest is not a priority so

[47:10] there you go

[47:12] no I know because we're not real America

[47:15] here

[47:16] like whenever we go to these press

[47:18] events because every press event is in

[47:19] California like it started to trigger me

[47:21] more and more I'm not like a big like

[47:23] stumping for the Midwest because let's

[47:26] face it our weather sucks it's there's

[47:28] nothing really to do here the people are

[47:30] pretty real Down to Earth but it's not

[47:31] like oh my God you gotta move to

[47:33] Illinois nobody says that it's like the

[47:35] joking Noah thing about uh when he was

[47:38] on the Bulls he joked around about

[47:39] what's so great about Cleveland yeah

[47:41] nobody says they take their vacation to

[47:43] Cleveland it's it's true nobody's like

[47:45] oh I got it I gotta come now I gotta

[47:47] hang out in the northwest suburbs Jack

[47:49] and Mark but it pisses me off because

[47:51] it's always like the whole world doesn't

[47:53] revolve around California's like

[47:54] mentality of how cars work there and

[47:57] people work there it's it's so removed

[47:59] from reality of the rest of the country

[48:00] especially the rural areas more so

[48:03] uh

[48:06] okay now I just lost every we just got

[48:08] quiet because we realized you just

[48:09] sacrificed your entire relationship with

[48:11] California it just just fell into the

[48:13] ocean for you

[48:15] um all right uh Mark can you share your

[48:17] experiences with music streaming service

[48:19] title versus Amazon music

[48:22] um

[48:24] what what do you use I use Spotify

[48:26] because I'm a basic [ __ ] and Mark uses

[48:28] Amazon because he loves Jeff Bezos it's

[48:31] because I want one service where I don't

[48:34] have 10 different subscriptions once

[48:37] Amazon went to like lossless or near

[48:39] lossless audio I was good for that I

[48:41] mean it's already tied into Prime and

[48:43] all of that five minute MPR you do get

[48:46] like Spotify is better but Spotify

[48:47] originally you could only sign up with

[48:49] an account if you had a Facebook account

[48:51] do you remember doing that no like they

[48:52] were heavily integrated into Facebook

[48:54] and I'm just like Auntie yeah even

[48:56] though I have an Instagram thing for

[48:58] Savage geese but anyway it's it's

[48:59] nonsense

[49:01] um

[49:02] can you Michael ask Mark can you comment

[49:06] on the historical aspect of new slash

[49:09] used car affordability where do you

[49:11] think the market will be in five ten

[49:12] years from now for background I'm in my

[49:14] mid-20s with a well above average salary

[49:16] and I cannot I still have to drop out of

[49:19] the market because I couldn't swallow

[49:20] paying forty thousand dollars for a

[49:21] launcher and or fifty thousand dollars

[49:23] for a gr Corolla or Type R

[49:26] you answer that I I mean you know how I

[49:29] feel about it cars are a shitload of

[49:32] money now and I they are going to get

[49:34] more money they're going to continue to

[49:36] cost more till people stop buying cars

[49:39] and I think that's just going to be the

[49:40] way it is used vehicles I think

[49:44] because of interest rates the way they

[49:46] are going will come down in price out of

[49:48] necessity but I I honestly I I don't

[49:51] know uh

[49:54] I don't know I don't have a good answer

[49:55] for it when it comes to reliability

[49:57] though and the concerns when it comes to

[49:59] uh like how these vehicles are going to

[50:02] hold up they're going to be a lot more

[50:04] expensive to repair than they used to be

[50:06] particularly as all these vehicles move

[50:08] towards hybridization and EVS I think

[50:10] that because of the repair cost used car

[50:13] prices for more commodity Vehicles will

[50:14] come down but

[50:16] that's it yeah I think you're going to

[50:17] see a correction this year I mean you're

[50:19] already starting to see it in used car

[50:20] prices so once that kind of Tanks you

[50:22] know then inventories come back up and

[50:24] nobody wants to pay seven percent

[50:26] interest on car loans like the average

[50:28] the reason why there's no T in my

[50:29] alphabet is all the t is in me

[50:31] [Laughter]

[50:34] um man that was horrible forgive me uh

[50:37] Mark oh you don't you haven't

[50:38] transitioned look this is probably the

[50:40] the only uh female that's on here that's

[50:43] fake

[50:46] I had I had to do it oh wait a second

[50:48] hold on a second Jack let me get this

[50:50] banner up because it's

[50:54] [Laughter]

[50:57] um what's your uh what is mine and

[51:00] Mark's favorite coffee beverage

[51:02] and is there a spot open for a grumpy

[51:05] Cameo from Scott okay uh so first let's

[51:08] do the drink one

[51:10] all right unless you started on

[51:12] I am a cappuccino or latte man

[51:17] how about you mark That's it yeah like I

[51:19] thought you like a whole bunch of stuff

[51:20] I do I like I like some fruitful drinks

[51:23] but now I'm I'm going hard on the pure

[51:25] like latte or cappuccino I've been

[51:27] aeropressed at homes every morning I I

[51:31] would love to do you really yeah I do oh

[51:33] my God I think we're joking

[51:35] no I should have bougie I should have

[51:38] known uh I'm in there with my my farm to

[51:40] table beans grinding them up every

[51:42] morning while I sit there with my apron

[51:44] on

[51:44] uh what about you mark so Mark does have

[51:47] a dairy intolerance so he's he's moved

[51:50] from uh soy to Oat uh yeah so the the

[51:54] back story about this to take a break

[51:56] from the questions is I used to work at

[51:59] Motorola back in the day and this was

[52:01] like Greg and all them and it was like

[52:04] 10 of us guys and this is what Motorola

[52:06] was like Motorola before it was uh

[52:08] Lenovo and they were just like they were

[52:10] done like they were done and nobody

[52:13] cared about anything so we'd come into

[52:15] work and they because we were

[52:16] contractors at that point they literally

[52:18] took our I.T team and they didn't know

[52:20] where to put us so they put us in the

[52:22] Law Department with all these Motorola

[52:23] lawyers and we were so obnoxious that

[52:26] they kicked us out of the department

[52:28] literally had the like the facilities

[52:30] guys come Boomer cubes out and they put

[52:33] us in the main hallway in the building

[52:35] like when you walked out they just built

[52:37] our cubes in the hallway because they

[52:39] didn't want us to be around anybody else

[52:40] so we'd go and like screw it none of the

[52:44] management care so we'd go on like four

[52:45] hour lunches like literally we would

[52:47] only come into work to go to lunch to

[52:49] hang out because everything else was

[52:51] like a [ __ ] show so we'd go to lunch

[52:54] first we'd go bowling and then we'd go

[52:57] like let's get like an appetizer and

[52:59] then we go get lunch and then we go

[53:01] somewhere else and then we go get ice

[53:02] cream every day and it was like a course

[53:04] of a year of getting like hot fudge

[53:07] sundaes and turtles Sundaes and banana

[53:10] splits that like one day my buddy Greg

[53:12] he had his his family's like Exploder

[53:15] and it was like brand new in the leather

[53:17] that fake leather smell I I had this

[53:20] gurgling in my stomach and they

[53:22] literally had to pull over a gas station

[53:23] I barely made it and that was the

[53:24] turning point for me after that day

[53:26] every time I had Dairy I was like done

[53:28] for but it was like years of abuse like

[53:31] literally years of abuse so uh now I

[53:33] don't like coffee so I just drink chives

[53:35] with oat milk and it's as close as I can

[53:37] get to my Dairy fix uh Jakey asks any

[53:40] updates on a long-term MDX Type S we

[53:42] have that vehicle we're gonna be doing a

[53:44] a series of videos we have two long-term

[53:46] testers right now that oems gave us we

[53:50] have a Mazda 3 all-wheel drive turbo I

[53:52] can't tell you how many times people

[53:54] have asked us to do a long-term current

[53:56] gen miles the three we talked to modest

[53:58] about it they gave us a loan for six

[54:00] months so we're gonna try to pile on

[54:02] like 20 000 miles in six months I'll let

[54:04] you know how that goes but oh that's

[54:07] what I forgot to upload that the one

[54:09] clip

[54:11] um I might be able to upload it

[54:14] um for people to see

[54:17] about the transmission thing oh yeah so

[54:20] the type S has a gearbox problem it goes

[54:22] into neutral all the time which we'll be

[54:24] talking about in our actual video when

[54:26] that comes out yeah I'm not going to put

[54:27] it in our Mazda 3 uh it's a brand new

[54:31] vehicle it's an all-wheel drive turbo

[54:32] every single option because it's a press

[54:34] car that's how it works it already has a

[54:36] horrendous headliner rattle but you know

[54:39] you're about to see what's going to

[54:41] happen with that vehicle long term I did

[54:43] bring it in for the transmission issue

[54:44] because I had a flat tire like I

[54:47] literally talked to three people there I

[54:48] I said this is a press car it's

[54:51] Automotive media and it's from the

[54:52] manufacturer can you please take a look

[54:54] at this if the if the trans ECU needs to

[54:56] be reset for like relearn

[54:59] um I talked to the the tech I talked to

[55:01] the service manager and I talked to the

[55:03] the main guy who handles service calls

[55:05] and they're like oh everything's all

[55:06] done I'm like oh so what was it the

[55:08] trans he's like the text just like oh it

[55:10] does that in sport mode I'm like yeah

[55:12] that's not what I said and it happens in

[55:14] every mode it doesn't matter what in

[55:16] Comfort mode it does it so they

[55:18] basically didn't do anything so I'm

[55:19] gonna see uh once I record it I'll go

[55:23] back and bring it back and kind of

[55:24] really like hey what is really wrong

[55:26] with this is it from the factory that

[55:28] way or is it just a problem but anyway

[55:30] yeah uh Dan who's a hero oh sir Chris

[55:33] I'll answer correct I'll ask answer the

[55:36] answer Chris's question first what do

[55:38] you miss most about your LC 500 do you

[55:40] regret getting rid of it uh I missed

[55:43] that car a lot

[55:44] um but I didn't I didn't drive it it was

[55:46] a car I really wanted I thought it was

[55:48] like it was everything I wanted in a car

[55:50] at that point in time but drove the hell

[55:52] out of that thing dude I drove that

[55:53] thing like none other and it wasn't

[55:54] designed to drive it the way that I did

[55:56] and I think that's what broke it for me

[55:58] is we went to the track a couple times

[55:59] not not because it was my plan to do

[56:02] that I just wanted to see what it was

[56:03] like and when we were out there with

[56:04] Jack's vet his uh Grand Sport the thing

[56:07] was fast it really wasn't pulling the

[56:09] straights on the Grand Sport yeah I mean

[56:11] and I drove the piss out of it but the

[56:13] problem was is it didn't have the

[56:14] cooling to support its capabilities it

[56:17] needs stiffer suspension like a better

[56:19] suspension to control the weight it

[56:21] needed a trans cooler and it needed an

[56:23] oil cooler all three of those things

[56:24] would not be the biggest deal to do and

[56:27] I would buy another one but I would not

[56:28] buy it without that because I'd always

[56:30] get to the threshold of having that

[56:31] there for like 10 or 15 minutes and went

[56:33] over here no it wasn't even that in the

[56:35] heat like it would literally four laps

[56:37] of me driving and the trans would reach

[56:39] us

[56:39] oh yeah right no the oil would the oil

[56:42] would be in red like every time I drove

[56:44] it uh Dan who was a hero and thank you

[56:47] Dan for being a long-term supporter of

[56:49] this channel

[56:50] uh long-term plans for Savage geese have

[56:53] you considered moving to warmer climates

[56:55] both of our significant others and

[56:57] families are out here in the Midwest so

[56:59] that's pretty much where we're stuck uh

[57:01] posting to different platforms such as

[57:04] Rumble

[57:05] um we post to I think we're going to

[57:08] start posting on Amazon again

[57:09] and um

[57:13] uh our stuff is about to go up on

[57:15] Samsung assuming that goes through but

[57:18] not really I mean YouTube is sort of our

[57:19] home I mean if this Outlet or platform

[57:23] dies and for whatever reason we continue

[57:25] to do this we'll probably move to

[57:26] another platform but I think you know

[57:29] what would you be honest you you're

[57:31] gonna move into another platform if this

[57:33] does yeah I'm going back to corporate

[57:34] work yelling at all my employees and my

[57:36] factories Jack's gonna have a job in the

[57:38] corporate world and I'm gonna ride this

[57:40] out until it absolutely crumbles to the

[57:42] ground I think it doesn't live in my

[57:43] yard yeah I'm gonna like live in Jack's

[57:45] basement that's for sure my goal like

[57:47] there's days where when Jack and I have

[57:49] this conversation and it's a real

[57:50] conversation to have

[57:52] um doing this six to seven days a week

[57:54] is not fun a lot and the the amount of

[57:57] stress personally that I'm under to make

[57:59] this work and then work and then try to

[58:00] be creative I wake up days and I'm like

[58:03] I just want to go back to my corporate

[58:04] job it was it was easy not like easy

[58:06] like I talked about the Motorola story

[58:08] my corporate jobs that was that's not

[58:10] how I was really liked all that you are

[58:12] the I.T director that just disappeared I

[58:15] gotta go I gotta fund the local ice

[58:16] cream shop this week

[58:18] um my real my real jobs were hard but

[58:21] they were never as hard as this I mean I

[58:23] I just don't get a break so anyway

[58:26] um expansion of savage geese my goal is

[58:28] more projects our goal this year is to

[58:30] do one docu style film or big video

[58:32] every single month that's why you guys

[58:34] watch this stuff

[58:36] um so that's what we're trying to do we

[58:37] have a lot of big projects that are

[58:39] hopefully gonna come through and you'll

[58:41] see a lot more like the c806 stock you

[58:43] film or those the Nissan Z film or any

[58:46] of those big videos where you see

[58:47] engineers and people and we try to tell

[58:50] you a story that's a little bit more

[58:51] time Timeless and less disposable than a

[58:53] lot of the standard review or content

[58:56] that is put out on the internet

[58:58] perhaps more satirical content yeah why

[59:01] not we're trying to do Wednesday videos

[59:03] from now on we'll uh were there going to

[59:05] be topical or be a little bit less

[59:07] formal we're never going to do skits or

[59:09] anything like that but that's not who we

[59:11] are I mean I I could easily do Skits the

[59:13] Tom Todd stuff was hilarious you know I

[59:16] mean that's the type of stuff that I

[59:17] would do yeah I mean there's some

[59:18] classic stuff to do but to keep up that

[59:21] shtick in every video becomes like

[59:24] it'd be I can't do that like it has to

[59:26] be very metered out and people are not

[59:28] watching at least our stuff for the

[59:30] comedy no one likes us

[59:32] they might like the sarcasm to a certain

[59:35] extent and some of the [ __ ] that's

[59:36] in it if it was me I would have like

[59:38] probably 500 people watching because I'd

[59:40] be such an [ __ ] all the time but I

[59:42] have to dial it back especially with

[59:44] this guy uh one of the Bronco video

[59:46] comes out like it's coming up Friday and

[59:49] you'll see like I'm such a dick in the

[59:51] shop and I I caught it together where

[59:53] every time I had a snide commented Jack

[59:54] is just like completely ignoring me so

[59:56] he can get back to like the actual

[59:58] business that's what it's like uh today

[1:00:01] in the shop we were talking about uh

[1:00:02] something and it dawned on me I'm like

[1:00:04] man when I'm like 45 and I'm burnt out

[1:00:08] with life I'm and I'm a pure business

[1:00:10] man I'm gonna be such an [ __ ] yeah

[1:00:12] yeah you add another like 10 oh well

[1:00:14] this is the thing like when you're young

[1:00:16] you have a different mentality you have

[1:00:18] a lot more talents for stuff and then

[1:00:19] you attack on every 10 years you're like

[1:00:21] a totally different person more so with

[1:00:23] business and depending on your

[1:00:25] relationships you're gonna put up with

[1:00:26] less if you're on your fifth divorce you

[1:00:28] know I'm only 17. you're not there yet

[1:00:31] you know you're going to clearly look at

[1:00:33] this person and be like I the first time

[1:00:35] there's a whiff of like drama you're

[1:00:37] like see ya oh Mark's always like oh the

[1:00:39] old bones well did you see uh the lady

[1:00:42] from Amazon or what's the I don't I'm

[1:00:44] sorry I don't remember her name the guy

[1:00:46] that was the guy the girl who was

[1:00:47] married to Bezos she got remarried and I

[1:00:49] guess she's getting divorced for the

[1:00:50] second time already like you know she's

[1:00:53] probably like yeah

[1:00:55] you know I I don't need these it's

[1:00:57] easier to pull the rip cord yeah exactly

[1:01:00] do you think the industry will shift

[1:01:01] from Cars to trucks is it indicative

[1:01:04] um of a post-apocalyptic world where

[1:01:07] Road Zone exists uh

[1:01:10] that's a good question honestly Dan I

[1:01:12] think the reason why people are pushed

[1:01:14] towards trucks and SUVs versus cars is

[1:01:17] purely a utility perspective and

[1:01:19] packaging you look at the new Ram EV I

[1:01:21] Know Dan doesn't like EVS but that thing

[1:01:24] is the size of is it's not going to look

[1:01:26] like the concept vehicle I would be

[1:01:28] shocked to look anything like the

[1:01:30] concept vehicle but that thing is

[1:01:31] enormous 50 ads huge and because it's so

[1:01:36] big uh they there's so much more utility

[1:01:39] and flexibility for the OEM now a truck

[1:01:42] or an SUV can be that everything vehicle

[1:01:44] so

[1:01:46] um all right Scott what do you think of

[1:01:49] the best

[1:01:51] what do you think the best Porsche

[1:01:52] purchase would be as a driver's car

[1:01:55] investment for 30k or close must be a

[1:01:58] manual transmission you think these cars

[1:02:00] will ever return to prices like they

[1:02:01] were two three years ago

[1:02:03] um

[1:02:04] probably honestly investment's hard

[1:02:06] because all cars are for the most part

[1:02:08] bad Investments but something that isn't

[1:02:11] going to just crater into the ground

[1:02:12] value-wise

[1:02:14] I don't know like I can't you're gonna

[1:02:16] hear this from everyone Cayman or maybe

[1:02:17] a 996 911 if the IMs bearings were done

[1:02:20] it's just they're a lot of money and

[1:02:22] that's the other thing you're buying a

[1:02:23] car that's thirty thousand dollars now

[1:02:25] if anything bad happens to that Porsche

[1:02:28] when we do our Cayman video or 987.2 it

[1:02:30] may be thirty forty fifty thousand

[1:02:32] dollars now that car was you know nearly

[1:02:35] a six figure vehicle when it was new

[1:02:36] particularly when you included inflation

[1:02:38] some if something bad happens

[1:02:42] you are going to have a bad time

[1:02:44] financially it's going to be a lot worse

[1:02:45] than a traditional 30 000 card Effect so

[1:02:48] just keep that in mind

[1:02:51] um

[1:02:52] you know I'll ask you know as a premium

[1:02:55] patreon number

[1:02:58] um are we gonna do any fan meetup events

[1:03:00] like we did at TMP several years ago I

[1:03:02] am working with Chicago auto pros and

[1:03:05] Autobahn as we speak I'm doing a track

[1:03:07] day

[1:03:08] autocross car show viewer Meetup at

[1:03:12] Autobahn sometime this spring or summer

[1:03:14] uh the proceeds will go so the proceeds

[1:03:19] that don't cover the track rental so

[1:03:21] it's going to be run by Chicago Auto

[1:03:22] Pros but the car show element and the

[1:03:25] gate fees I'm trying to make sure all of

[1:03:27] the autocross fees as well go to a local

[1:03:31] animal charity a dog charity because I'm

[1:03:33] a dog person and pets are amazing I'm

[1:03:36] gonna let you run with that dude because

[1:03:38] uh he's not gonna run the event but he

[1:03:40] will be there we're trying to get some

[1:03:41] other YouTubers to be there as well the

[1:03:43] track day the autocross should be fun

[1:03:44] it'll be at Autobahn

[1:03:46] um yeah all right so there's that uh

[1:03:49] what are your top five manual

[1:03:52] transmissions this is from Eric Lowe uh

[1:03:55] well since I am paid for by Honda CTR

[1:03:59] ctrcs Civic Integra Type R Civic Type R

[1:04:02] the fl5 type R and even if you moved you

[1:04:06] could see a Civic yeah no uh I think the

[1:04:09] best ones modern history are the GT350

[1:04:13] or whatever yeah GT350 the Tremec 60s TR

[1:04:16] 6060 so it would be the similar [ __ ] in

[1:04:18] the Camaro right I mean yeah the to me

[1:04:22] it's GT350 it's the gt3s they basically

[1:04:25] feel the same time 1.2 and 992 Uh

[1:04:28] current fl5 CTR no joke as a front wheel

[1:04:31] drive it's a very good gearbox uh

[1:04:33] Hellcat yeah yeah surprisingly it's very

[1:04:36] industrial but very very mechanical yeah

[1:04:38] it's crazy but I guess you could say the

[1:04:40] same thing about the Vipers it's like

[1:04:42] it's got that same like

[1:04:44] it's a perfect transmission for Jack

[1:04:46] because well maybe not so much now you

[1:04:48] smoothed out your your shifting but

[1:04:50] before you know this guy was like uh a

[1:04:53] robot arm you know in a factory it's

[1:04:55] like for my mt82 with my mgw yeah the

[1:04:57] guy shotgun Blossom I would say that's

[1:05:00] 2000 is probably one of the best despite

[1:05:02] it being a little bit finicky Blackwing

[1:05:04] gearbox

[1:05:05] that's another Tremec unit yeah that's

[1:05:07] it for me

[1:05:09] um all right there are quite a few more

[1:05:11] so hopefully people totally disappear

[1:05:13] from this

[1:05:15] um

[1:05:17] love that this is from Chris Rice

[1:05:21] yeah this is from Chris rocks don't hit

[1:05:23] me uh love what you did with the gr 86

[1:05:26] versus super versus Z on the same tire

[1:05:28] and breaking upgrades would love uh

[1:05:31] enjoying seeing more of those comparison

[1:05:34] tests uh on older lightly modified

[1:05:37] sports cars

[1:05:39] honestly we have some comparative

[1:05:42] comparison tests coming up and they're

[1:05:44] all going to be an re71 rs's I don't

[1:05:46] know about older cars because that

[1:05:48] involves getting viewers involved and

[1:05:49] having their cars modified and all that

[1:05:51] other fun stuff

[1:05:53] um our comparison test no surprise we're

[1:05:55] trying to do a gr Corolla a launcher and

[1:05:57] CTR Golf R Video we have that four liter

[1:06:01] that is double Wishbone from Germany and

[1:06:04] the Corvette one coming along and a

[1:06:07] couple others this year I'm trying to do

[1:06:09] one with the manual Supra and a couple

[1:06:12] other vehicles but I know people like

[1:06:15] them it's an easy one and I'd like the

[1:06:16] philosophical almond Brit who um is

[1:06:19] still sort of the lead instructor at

[1:06:21] huddleban Country Club it's a tremendous

[1:06:24] driver and he does give very very good

[1:06:25] feedback and he's very consistent so I

[1:06:28] know you guys like it so we're going to

[1:06:29] try to put those together they are a

[1:06:31] bear to make though oh yeah it's it's

[1:06:34] like 10 times longer but I mean it's

[1:06:36] like anything Enthusiast related right

[1:06:38] like when when you're catering to an

[1:06:41] Enthusiast like there's a different

[1:06:42] level of expectation for those types of

[1:06:44] cars versus like a commodity thing like

[1:06:46] we could [ __ ] out like the Equinox that

[1:06:49] we have right now speaking of which

[1:06:50] we're going to take a quick break uh and

[1:06:52] show you this is a this is an exclusive

[1:06:56] live stream review that I'm gonna play

[1:06:58] for everybody right now

[1:07:01] Blake and Timmy from Tick Tock beg me to

[1:07:03] do a video on my brand new Chevy Equinox

[1:07:05] here we have the Chevy Equinox with two

[1:07:09] gauge clusters there's a speedometer

[1:07:11] here and then this is telling me how

[1:07:13] fast the engine is going

[1:07:15] um so this when this goes High the

[1:07:18] engine's going really fast we have a a

[1:07:21] fuel economy meter here and this is

[1:07:23] whether I'm hot or cold so what we do is

[1:07:25] we can hit this button and it'll turn on

[1:07:27] the heat and then the airbags heat up

[1:07:29] just in case there's an accident

[1:07:31] we come over here and this is a one of

[1:07:34] my favorite touches everybody this is

[1:07:36] the badass bow tie right here that they

[1:07:38] put on the shifter so when I shift down

[1:07:40] um

[1:07:43] it's a little hard to shift

[1:07:45] um

[1:07:46] I guess I just need to go to the gemi or

[1:07:48] something guys uh so there's a this

[1:07:51] button here is uh hidden behind the

[1:07:53] shifter it's a sport mode button so you

[1:07:56] hit it and it flashes and it lets you

[1:07:57] know that you're ready to go this is a

[1:07:59] great place for chai lattes

[1:08:02] um I get oat milk in mine or typically

[1:08:03] soy when I feel like I'm having a little

[1:08:06] bit more feelings towards somebody I I

[1:08:10] feel a little bit extra charge so I have

[1:08:12] a soy latte and it just dials me back to

[1:08:14] the next level so I can talk about maybe

[1:08:17] cuddling I'm not sure but anyway there's

[1:08:19] two cup holders and then we get to the

[1:08:21] Crown Jewel The Equinox interior this is

[1:08:24] the 17 inch touchscreen display everyone

[1:08:27] and if I want to listen to music it's

[1:08:30] very easy to navigate it's like my home

[1:08:32] screen at home at home when I touch I

[1:08:36] can just control everything through here

[1:08:38] so when I'm listening

[1:08:43] it's a little little loud for everybody

[1:08:45] that's my friend's music he likes to

[1:08:48] listen to that headbanger stuff I'm I'm

[1:08:50] more into classic vinyl myself I have a

[1:08:52] couple record players at home and um I

[1:08:55] think it just sounds better than CD but

[1:08:57] I think anyway aside from that we got a

[1:09:00] lot of features I'll cover in the next

[1:09:01] video

[1:09:02] everybody catch you later

[1:09:06] I can't believe I work with this guy

[1:09:09] oh really that was just a clever way of

[1:09:11] catching up with like with the comments

[1:09:13] anyway go ahead

[1:09:15] um oh [ __ ] uh let me get back anyway so

[1:09:18] my point of commodity cars it's way

[1:09:20] easier to do a shitbox equinox where

[1:09:22] nobody literally cares about production

[1:09:23] value or anything you just they just

[1:09:25] want to make a tick tock video yeah

[1:09:27] that's it

[1:09:28] man we got a lot more questions

[1:09:30] [Music]

[1:09:31] so we are doing a Discord it is all set

[1:09:34] up we just need to activate it and we

[1:09:36] haven't had time to activate a Discord

[1:09:39] and actually make sure that it's

[1:09:41] moderated correctly and it doesn't turn

[1:09:43] into an internet hellscape but yes we do

[1:09:45] have a Discord

[1:09:47] um after working as a service advisor

[1:09:50] for BMW for 15 years

[1:09:52] it seems only two concerns customers

[1:09:55] have anymore why isn't my Apple carplay

[1:09:57] working and why do I need Brakes and

[1:09:59] Tires already are you guys privy to

[1:10:01] engineering advances and tire compounds

[1:10:03] that will allow them to hold up to

[1:10:05] better uh hold up better to instant

[1:10:08] torque being created by fully hybridized

[1:10:11] and fully electric motors

[1:10:13] um to be honest I think that's the

[1:10:15] biggest problem that both roads tires

[1:10:18] and consumables are going to have as as

[1:10:20] everything moves to EV trucks and big EV

[1:10:23] SUVs you're going to see a massive

[1:10:26] increase in consumable cost because

[1:10:28] tires are going to wear out faster

[1:10:29] brakes won't but I think a lot of

[1:10:31] suspension components and road damage is

[1:10:33] going to get worse yeah I think the tire

[1:10:36] problem you're just going to see tires

[1:10:37] get replaced sooner we're doing a video

[1:10:39] and it's my fault for not having it out

[1:10:40] and scripted yet but we're doing a

[1:10:42] technical series with Bridgestone it's

[1:10:45] not sponsored by Bridgestone they were

[1:10:46] the only Tire Company to ever say yes to

[1:10:49] answering or engineering questions in

[1:10:51] great detail on summer Tire technology

[1:10:54] walking you through technically the

[1:10:55] differences in how tread blocks work how

[1:10:58] different rubber compounds work why

[1:11:00] tires wear the way they do and one on

[1:11:01] snow tires and quite frankly how all

[1:11:05] season tires have advanced to the point

[1:11:06] where well you should always get snow

[1:11:08] tires how they are now more

[1:11:10] let's call it a jack of all trades no

[1:11:14] pun intended how there have a broader

[1:11:16] bandwidth of use well the other part too

[1:11:18] is you have cars that are bigger like

[1:11:20] everything's bigger and heavier and this

[1:11:22] is going back to a point I was talking

[1:11:23] to you on the shop today

[1:11:25] um you know it's funny going back to

[1:11:27] older cars that had an average weight of

[1:11:29] three thousand pounds now everything's

[1:11:31] gone up to like 3 500 or like 4 000

[1:11:33] pounds because everybody wants an SUV

[1:11:35] and that was kind of like the the light

[1:11:37] car fun to car thing was phased out

[1:11:39] based on people's desire to have bigger

[1:11:41] vehicles so now like the concept of like

[1:11:44] what Lotus was doing or like McLaren you

[1:11:46] can forget about that because it's too

[1:11:47] expensive nobody buys it

[1:11:49] um now we have the regulations kind of

[1:11:51] killing off uh internal combustion or

[1:11:53] like fun internal combustion for like

[1:11:55] these downsized engines and now we're

[1:11:57] seeing like all these EV pushes so EVS

[1:12:00] are way heavier they're like twice the

[1:12:02] weight of an old you know the older cars

[1:12:03] and you have like Concepts now coming

[1:12:05] out like the ram we're talking about

[1:12:06] that today the concept of a three row

[1:12:08] pickup truck which you know 100 is gonna

[1:12:11] happen so you're talking about now a 9

[1:12:13] 000 pound truck three road truck bigger

[1:12:16] heavier in every capacity more materials

[1:12:19] huge batteries and that's like three

[1:12:22] cars based on our our old cars that they

[1:12:24] used to be so to power that level of

[1:12:27] weight and to power that level of

[1:12:29] horsepower and torque you have bigger

[1:12:31] tires bigger and bigger tires and they

[1:12:33] have to be stickier to put down the

[1:12:35] power which means you can't have both

[1:12:37] you can't have an all-season compound

[1:12:39] that can control that type of weight and

[1:12:42] load and lateral load and like

[1:12:44] longitudal load on an all-season tire so

[1:12:47] more of these tires are becoming more

[1:12:48] and more separated to Summer and now

[1:12:51] they're having an all-season option and

[1:12:53] they literally get obliterated in 20 000

[1:12:55] miles if that so you're going to see

[1:12:57] this on more and more products as the

[1:13:00] especially with the EVS because there's

[1:13:01] no way they can manage power without the

[1:13:03] electronics on the tire uh and now tires

[1:13:06] are crazy like that the RDX tire was 450

[1:13:09] for an all-season MDX yeah sorry the MDX

[1:13:13] I mean 450 for one tire and this is

[1:13:15] really common now to see Tires over 250

[1:13:18] or 300 on these mainstream cars per tire

[1:13:20] that's a huge consumable cost that

[1:13:22] people don't think about and it's one

[1:13:23] thing obviously the viewers on here know

[1:13:25] to look at that like if you're gonna buy

[1:13:26] a car look at what the tires cost before

[1:13:28] you get into it and you're like oh [ __ ]

[1:13:30] like me with the X7 I'm like Jack's like

[1:13:32] well I can get you tires I'm like yeah

[1:13:34] there's really only tight two Tire

[1:13:36] options that are made for that car too

[1:13:38] one's a summer and one's a half-assed

[1:13:40] All Season they're all like 500 a piece

[1:13:43] and I'm like dude I'm not spending

[1:13:53] it's ridiculous

[1:13:55] um all right I'm gonna answer a couple

[1:13:56] more patreon questions

[1:13:58] um Joseph who's a GT4 owner think about

[1:14:01] going to a one-car garage again uh

[1:14:05] thoughts on the G80 g82 M3 or maybe is

[1:14:09] it the M2 I can't remember this M3 or

[1:14:11] the M2 we're doing an M2 video so I can

[1:14:13] answer that question in the future but

[1:14:15] uh the M3 compared to a GT4 is going to

[1:14:18] feel awfully numb but a whole lot faster

[1:14:20] yeah for sure yep I don't think you'll

[1:14:23] be all that happy man if I went from a

[1:14:24] GT4 to uh

[1:14:27] a M3 I mean yeah the practicality will

[1:14:30] be great in having a less substantial

[1:14:32] payment would be great yeah but the car

[1:14:35] is really numb

[1:14:37] um

[1:14:40] uh Jeffrey uh with model 3 prices

[1:14:43] falling is there a better choice over

[1:14:45] you is it a better choice of a used

[1:14:48] hybrid or plug-in hybrid vehicles

[1:14:50] looking at a model 3 versus an ES300

[1:14:52] hybrid Honda Clarity or Honda Accord

[1:14:54] Hybrid

[1:14:56] you had a gentleman that you used to

[1:14:58] work with who had a model 3 for three

[1:15:00] years in the midwest you want to walk

[1:15:01] them yeah so I met up with my

[1:15:03] ex-co-workers and uh he leased a model 3

[1:15:07] and he

[1:15:10] I don't know he didn't have the extended

[1:15:12] range he had the regular one so at the

[1:15:14] end of three years he was done with it

[1:15:15] because of the range anxiety and I'm

[1:15:17] like okay well that's everybody that you

[1:15:19] know so he started with like a 220 mile

[1:15:21] range by the end of three years he

[1:15:23] barely got 170 and every time he got

[1:15:26] down to like that 10 15 mile range it

[1:15:29] was reducing the power output of the car

[1:15:32] and granted he drove it pretty hard but

[1:15:33] he's like I'm never doing that again so

[1:15:36] the batteries regardless of Tesla even

[1:15:38] on all the updates there's going to be

[1:15:40] degradation depending on the weather

[1:15:41] that you're in we talk about this all

[1:15:43] the time people like don't talk about it

[1:15:44] but if you're in cold or extreme hot and

[1:15:47] you drive it hard and you're constantly

[1:15:48] up and down up and down on that battery

[1:15:50] or if you're like you're on a fast

[1:15:51] charger all the time there's gonna be

[1:15:52] degradation they've tried to build it in

[1:15:54] the packs like they build overhead in

[1:15:56] the packs for that you know to make up

[1:15:58] for it but it's still there so can you

[1:15:59] live with that with the model 3 the

[1:16:02] compromise associated with it or would

[1:16:04] you rather pay for gas just buy an ES300

[1:16:07] or a Honda Accord which you know while

[1:16:10] they will not be essentially free to run

[1:16:12] in that regards they won't have those

[1:16:15] long-term issues and give you some more

[1:16:16] flexibility I would buy the es

[1:16:18] personally or the Honda Accord if you're

[1:16:19] looking for that Frugal McDougall pseudo

[1:16:22] luxury car to roll around in but

[1:16:24] yeah uh all right I'll answer I know

[1:16:27] there are a ton of questions from Super

[1:16:28] Chat but I'll go through a couple more

[1:16:30] uh patreon questions and we'll go back

[1:16:32] to them later

[1:16:34] holy crap uh sorry guys there's a lot of

[1:16:37] questions

[1:16:38] um unrelated to cars Mark what messaging

[1:16:41] app do you recommend

[1:16:43] for privacy

[1:16:45] well I use threema and it's kind of like

[1:16:49] like signal and all of those that aren't

[1:16:52] you know there's a lot of other ones

[1:16:53] that have been publicized but threema is

[1:16:55] probably the best in terms of security

[1:16:58] they have three months for business and

[1:17:00] then three months only paid you can't

[1:17:01] get it for free and it's cheap but it's

[1:17:04] encrypted end to end uh you know so like

[1:17:07] by it's not gonna use Grindr no I'm not

[1:17:09] doing this grinder so anyway yeah I'm

[1:17:11] not going to give you the technical

[1:17:12] breakdown but I use threema personally

[1:17:13] there's a lot of benefits to it and if

[1:17:15] you know how to like make sure your

[1:17:17] phone is secure it should be safe you

[1:17:19] have to make sure that you have a

[1:17:21] password set on your phone or encryption

[1:17:23] especially on iPhone because it uses

[1:17:24] that if you don't have that set then

[1:17:26] people can get into the database of the

[1:17:28] phone and steal it so again like

[1:17:30] everything you have to do due diligence

[1:17:32] to protect your data uh if you could

[1:17:34] only choose one fun manual only Japanese

[1:17:37] German car

[1:17:38] to have as a second car to drive and

[1:17:40] hold on to for 10 to 20 years what would

[1:17:44] it be assuming your max budget is like

[1:17:46] sixty five thousand dollars

[1:17:48] you you tell me bro that's 60 000 is

[1:17:51] hard for me because I I mean I most my

[1:17:53] cars are like 450 500 000. I my

[1:17:57] influencer money goes in man it's

[1:17:58] incredible because I I did a commercial

[1:18:00] for a Type R man

[1:18:03] oh type R there you go I spent two days

[1:18:06] and didn't get a dollar

[1:18:08] um two uh man second car makes it hard

[1:18:11] because that to me that rules out things

[1:18:12] like the type R joking aside in some of

[1:18:15] the four-door piles

[1:18:17] 10 to 20 years

[1:18:20] and you want German or American I'm

[1:18:22] sorry German or Japanese I mean ND Miata

[1:18:26] yeah that's I hate to say be that guy or

[1:18:29] I honestly I'd buy American at that

[1:18:30] price point I mean for 60 to 70 under 65

[1:18:34] 000 and you want to keep it for a long

[1:18:36] time a vet or a Viper would be amazing

[1:18:38] for that money

[1:18:40] of that a Viper would be even better I

[1:18:42] mean honestly if you get like a Gen 4

[1:18:44] Viper as much as I didn't love that

[1:18:46] thing it's already old you're gonna have

[1:18:48] a unique experience for over a decade

[1:18:51] or like a C6 Z06 yeah no good good point

[1:18:56] oh you're you're gonna show them like

[1:18:57] somebody somebody mentioned uh the 3ma

[1:18:59] article on ours Technica which I did not

[1:19:01] see yesterday I just want to see what

[1:19:03] they say like it's probably gonna be

[1:19:05] like oh three mode just [ __ ] the bed

[1:19:08] no there's vulnerabilities with Remo now

[1:19:11] I I don't I don't know I'm gonna go back

[1:19:13] to uh oh

[1:19:15] um something that I will bring up that

[1:19:16] someone asked me earlier on patreon

[1:19:19] um as far as collaborations with oems uh

[1:19:22] oems uh other YouTubers go

[1:19:25] um we've we did one recently with a

[1:19:27] journalist outlet for the Kia ev6 GT I'm

[1:19:32] I'm open to do more in the future I

[1:19:34] think we're gonna do one with Georgia

[1:19:35] Moto man and uh one of these days we'll

[1:19:37] have

[1:19:38] um debit a press event with us we'll

[1:19:40] shoot a video

[1:19:42] um uh we're not opposed to it it just

[1:19:44] becomes a logistic headache with how

[1:19:46] tighter schedule is we also are doing a

[1:19:49] mark IV super video if there's any

[1:19:51] chance that Alban is watching us

[1:19:52] currently goth at albon we shot our mark

[1:19:55] IV super video with albon that's

[1:19:57] basically done we just need to shoot

[1:19:59] some of our b-roll and shoot our shop

[1:20:00] segment but you'll be seeing that in the

[1:20:02] next month or so that will be a good one

[1:20:04] I know you guys have been asking for a

[1:20:05] long

[1:20:06] long time uh two more patreons Mark and

[1:20:11] then I'll I'll go to the main questions

[1:20:13] the main questions

[1:20:15] oh my God

[1:20:16] trying to pick ones that

[1:20:22] after the CRX video I got really

[1:20:24] interested in a affordable driver's car

[1:20:27] what is a good older driver's car that

[1:20:29] you can actually buy such as an older

[1:20:31] Civic Etc what about what do you think

[1:20:33] Mark as I pull you away from sorry I'm

[1:20:35] like this is and I'm I'm actually

[1:20:37] reading too deeply into this but yeah

[1:20:39] I'll read this later uh the three my

[1:20:41] stuff is interesting I'll have to go

[1:20:43] through it more I mean of course there's

[1:20:45] going to be two sides of the research

[1:20:46] versus what the company says and I'll be

[1:20:48] curious to see what's real and what's

[1:20:51] not with that anyway back to back to the

[1:20:53] question it's a portable car that's a

[1:20:55] driver's car that's old

[1:21:00] that you can actually find like an S2000

[1:21:02] is an affordable driver's car but it

[1:21:04] doesn't have the steering feel or

[1:21:05] anything like that I mean you can find

[1:21:07] in a lease I mean I don't know what

[1:21:08] shape they are I mean if you want that

[1:21:10] that's affordable and the lease is

[1:21:11] expensive 40 Grand no or 20 000. well I

[1:21:14] don't know 20 000 a Miata yeah that's

[1:21:17] pretty much like an NC

[1:21:19] yeah NC's Miata is probably your best

[1:21:20] bet for four-wheel drive and do you

[1:21:22] think that offers some of the feels

[1:21:24] something like an Integra or something

[1:21:25] older like a CRX no but I mean you can't

[1:21:29] find zero yeah I mean those are you know

[1:21:31] those are [ __ ] you can't find integrals

[1:21:33] yeah no this don't even bother they're

[1:21:34] not worth the money to buy them you know

[1:21:36] like we Rave about them as a like in

[1:21:38] these in these videos like the CRX that

[1:21:41] CRX SI we did was like sixty thousand

[1:21:43] dollars

[1:21:44] it's probably more than that I bet you

[1:21:46] if you posted it up somebody would pay

[1:21:47] like 90 000 for it yeah like in

[1:21:49] integra's nice ones that aren't like for

[1:21:52] owner every single one of them totaled

[1:21:54] out and stolen or almost six-figure cars

[1:21:56] now it's crazy RX7 mentioned that it's

[1:21:59] also a pretty amazing car a great okay

[1:22:02] actually it's a really great car it's

[1:22:03] just it takes a lot more work to to get

[1:22:06] it right than it would a traditional

[1:22:07] like four popper I think if you own an

[1:22:10] RX7 you're someone who's willing to

[1:22:12] wrench on a car and while I don't have a

[1:22:14] problem if you're willing to do that I

[1:22:16] think for a regular person that becomes

[1:22:19] not necessarily the most realistic

[1:22:23] um

[1:22:25] Blaine last one this will be my my my

[1:22:28] last of the patreon questions I want to

[1:22:30] hit you up on one that's actually

[1:22:32] uh a good one not that they aren't good

[1:22:36] but you know one that will apply to many

[1:22:37] many people

[1:22:38] here's a philosophical one from Peter

[1:22:40] Chu will Acura hybridize or CUV SUV

[1:22:43] lineup I think this becomes a

[1:22:48] Acura and Honda are in a weird spot do

[1:22:51] you think I mean they're going to have

[1:22:53] to hybridize RDX and MDX and all this

[1:22:55] stuff

[1:22:56] do you think they are going to be

[1:22:59] successful in that Mark and you see that

[1:23:01] anytime soon because clearly like CRV is

[1:23:03] a hybrid pile yeah right a cord is a

[1:23:05] hybrid pile they just Acura Honda

[1:23:08] doesn't have a lot of Drive trains I

[1:23:09] think people forget that they have the

[1:23:10] one five the two liter a naturally

[1:23:13] aspirated two they're hybrid in their

[1:23:16] four-cylinder guys in 1v6 that's modern

[1:23:20] the three liter and then the 3.5 they

[1:23:23] don't have a lot of Drive trains to work

[1:23:24] with right so they're gonna have to

[1:23:26] ground up a premium hybrid yeah no

[1:23:28] you're right I mean that that's that's

[1:23:30] the truth of it

[1:23:31] okay all right let's start answering uh

[1:23:34] super chat questions mark you want to

[1:23:35] start hitting me up with the about a

[1:23:38] billion of them that we've gotten so far

[1:23:39] all right first one

[1:23:42] mini bike Madness thank you for the one

[1:23:44] dollar donation sir thank you sir that's

[1:23:46] a that's your type of bike there was it

[1:23:49] a Honda 50 it is a Honda 50. are you

[1:23:53] gonna do wheelies on that I would love

[1:23:55] the I still desperately want to put you

[1:23:58] on a motorcycle like even in a sidecar I

[1:24:01] still think one of the most entertaining

[1:24:03] videos we've done the likelihood of the

[1:24:05] viewer gave us the uh vehicle the Beyond

[1:24:08] here is like zero but the Morgan three I

[1:24:09] love that thing so much I know you did I

[1:24:12] I mean the the only time I was ever on a

[1:24:15] bike was on my buddy's dirt bike he's

[1:24:16] like oh let me take it yeah no he put me

[1:24:19] on the back of his dirt bike and I was

[1:24:20] holding on to him like in [ __ ] mode and

[1:24:23] I was like terrified that was the only

[1:24:25] time I ever like got on a bike like that

[1:24:28] as a passenger uh but you can count me

[1:24:31] out of that dude I'd be dead in two

[1:24:33] seconds on a bike dead you'd be scraping

[1:24:35] me off the a guard rail or something uh

[1:24:38] next comment

[1:24:40] uh LT Automotive thank you for your five

[1:24:42] dollar donation I'd like to have I I'd

[1:24:46] have more to give if I didn't owe a

[1:24:47] thousand dollars a month for the next

[1:24:49] eight years of my pre-owned Altima

[1:24:50] that's some strong Nissan financing sir

[1:24:53] yeah that's that's that's premium

[1:24:55] financing

[1:24:58] Josh thank you for the twenty dollars

[1:25:00] thank you sir I am torn between

[1:25:02] contributing to my 401k or being an

[1:25:05] American and buying a car that cost my

[1:25:07] entire salary Alfa Romeo Julia if you've

[1:25:10] driven the ti even cooler we did have a

[1:25:12] TI as a press car and we we didn't do a

[1:25:14] video on it was uh it was the like

[1:25:16] British racing green one too yeah you

[1:25:18] cut me away from that vehicle and it was

[1:25:20] brown interior

[1:25:21] uh it's a cool car I I just it's one

[1:25:25] that you really love to drive it because

[1:25:27] the chassis is amazing but it's such a

[1:25:30] small car on the inside for what it is

[1:25:31] uh and then I say this every live stream

[1:25:33] you have to see if you like the engine

[1:25:36] because that engine is just the four

[1:25:39] popper it it's it's average you know

[1:25:43] like there's nothing wrong with it but

[1:25:44] it's like it's such a good car that you

[1:25:47] can't really utilize what the chassis is

[1:25:49] and you just always want more out of it

[1:25:50] I don't think it'd be worth going in a

[1:25:52] hawk for it to spend a lot of money yeah

[1:25:54] I'm sure used though I'm sure the dirt

[1:25:56] oh yeah now they are I think the the

[1:25:58] Julia and the stelvio like last time I

[1:26:01] looked were hilarious in terms of poor

[1:26:04] resale value 25 Grand or 30 grand I

[1:26:06] don't know what they were but they were

[1:26:07] like way way less as he as he used so if

[1:26:10] you could get one like I don't even know

[1:26:11] if they do certified and how many

[1:26:12] dealerships actually service them that's

[1:26:14] the other thing is how many uh Alpha

[1:26:17] dealerships are around now

[1:26:19] five

[1:26:21] all right next one

[1:26:23] uh Pavel Jones thank you for the ten

[1:26:26] dollars Australian much love from

[1:26:27] Australia I hope Mark is enjoying his

[1:26:29] CTR I have an fl5 allocation coming

[1:26:32] April and wanted to set aside

[1:26:33] aftermarket rims what rims or Wheels

[1:26:36] look best on an f05 in your opinion uh

[1:26:39] for the sake of Scott the Mugen wheels

[1:26:43] are amazing I don't know man I don't

[1:26:45] like bronze Wheels I've never liked

[1:26:46] bronze Wheels it's just it's like a

[1:26:48] Subaru thing to me like I always saw it

[1:26:50] on a Subaru or evos joking aside um I

[1:26:53] mean those car those wheels are classic

[1:26:55] they're but that obviously fits the Apex

[1:26:59] wheel that they're working on or have

[1:27:00] one they have them out um yo would Apex

[1:27:03] the thing I like about Apex Wheels they

[1:27:04] don't pay us to say this or anything

[1:27:07] along those lines is they've no you're

[1:27:08] making an ad now you're making a

[1:27:10] commercial for them aren't you I gotta

[1:27:11] pay for my factory expansion come on Yo

[1:27:14] now the thing about uh Apex is they view

[1:27:16] Wheels as consumables and if you talk to

[1:27:17] anyone who actually drives their cars

[1:27:20] hard wheels are consumable they break

[1:27:22] they crack if you ride curbs on tracks

[1:27:24] blah blah blah so Apex will sell you

[1:27:27] your next set of wheels after you

[1:27:28] inevitably destroy your first set for

[1:27:30] half off which is a big deal and the

[1:27:32] wheels are not catastrophically

[1:27:34] expensive they're not like four thousand

[1:27:35] dollars a set at least for their cast

[1:27:37] wheels so you have a coupon code too to

[1:27:40] go with that yeah or you get what Jack

[1:27:41] Factory is the uh if you buy them for 50

[1:27:44] off then we get a cut of like a thousand

[1:27:46] percent and Jack's gonna buy another

[1:27:48] Corvette so I have to hear about it

[1:27:50] again for another year

[1:27:51] this dude buys a Corvette like three

[1:27:53] years ago I still just stopped I finally

[1:27:55] stopped hearing about it because he was

[1:27:57] over it and now he's started over the

[1:27:59] thing with the Corvette again and now

[1:28:01] every day we can't even have a normal

[1:28:03] conversation with this guy anymore

[1:28:05] all he does oh man if you see my

[1:28:07] Corvette in the garage it's just sitting

[1:28:09] there it's killing me oh

[1:28:13] um

[1:28:14] Savage fleece that is a great name uh

[1:28:17] yeah

[1:28:21] um all right hit me up with the next

[1:28:22] question sir sorry I'm kind of stuck

[1:28:24] here oh yeah Jack likes to talk about

[1:28:26] Corvettes that was that was the next

[1:28:27] question uh here we go ready

[1:28:32] uh we addressed that in the beginning of

[1:28:35] the video I think Mark uh I talked about

[1:28:37] it for 20 minutes

[1:28:39] just just rewind it and you'll see it

[1:28:42] was not an advertisement I'm going to

[1:28:44] say that and if there's any other Super

[1:28:46] Chat things paying me to answer this it

[1:28:48] was not an advertisement

[1:28:51] I put them in the video because I wanted

[1:28:53] to and then I botched the story so it

[1:28:55] wound up looking like an ad and not only

[1:28:57] I I pissed a lot of viewers off

[1:29:00] I made the dealership like have to deal

[1:29:03] with about a bunch of bad press so good

[1:29:06] job Mark yeah anyway next question uh

[1:29:09] glad to see Mark rocking the Kirkland

[1:29:11] Signature hoodie oh we answered we

[1:29:13] answered this so we'll we'll answer it

[1:29:15] again the WRX is a fine car it's still a

[1:29:18] Subaru it's better than the last one

[1:29:19] it's just uglier but it's it is ugly and

[1:29:22] the interior is crap and it's ugly but

[1:29:26] it drives well maybe when they decide

[1:29:27] they're gonna paint the [ __ ] Parts on

[1:29:29] it and it doesn't look like uh you don't

[1:29:31] have to go to the aftermarket like you I

[1:29:33] sent you the picture I sent Jack a

[1:29:34] picture today from the new the rivian

[1:29:36] right yeah the rivian Amazon trucks that

[1:29:38] are on the road if you look at the side

[1:29:40] of it like they put all this plastic

[1:29:42] cladding unpainted plastic obviously for

[1:29:44] durability and easy to replace and it

[1:29:46] looked just like the cx-30 on the side

[1:29:48] like the bottom half so now the cx-30 is

[1:29:51] gonna probably sell a lot more because

[1:29:52] people like oh man I want I want my SUV

[1:29:54] to look like a Amazon delivery truck

[1:29:57] next question sir uh any we answered

[1:30:01] that one as well forgetful foot thank

[1:30:03] you for the two dollars you'll be seeing

[1:30:04] a 987.2 Cayman S Video in the next month

[1:30:08] or so

[1:30:09] not from me uh Adam thank you for the

[1:30:11] fifty dollars very very good thank you

[1:30:14] Adam appreciate it and thank you to

[1:30:15] everybody it's not just the money is not

[1:30:17] the issue here it's just I have to this

[1:30:19] is helping me deal with Jack after this

[1:30:22] he's gonna beat the [ __ ] out of me and

[1:30:24] tell me I'm a bad businessman

[1:30:26] um oh that's gonna get me a bag yeah

[1:30:30] thank you Rick again for the ten dollars

[1:30:31] I told I said Thank you to Rick in the

[1:30:34] very beginning what uh how much is a

[1:30:36] regular beef and cheddar now 3.99 or so

[1:30:38] you're asking the wrong person I missed

[1:30:40] your Aero press in the morning remember

[1:30:42] all right this is a true story when we

[1:30:45] were filming the Z06 piece and we were

[1:30:47] in Kentucky all this guy talked about

[1:30:49] with our poor rep and all the engineers

[1:30:51] he's like man I need to get this Jack

[1:30:53] guy over to Checkers he's gonna expand

[1:30:55] his palate I [ __ ] you not my rep still

[1:30:58] talks about that one of our Porsche

[1:31:00] wraps nice nice lady sheep lady she's

[1:31:04] like 20 or she's like 18 years old

[1:31:07] nice human being she's like ah uh you

[1:31:11] know next time you're in Georgia we I we

[1:31:13] we should get burgers tell Mark it's not

[1:31:16] McDonald's

[1:31:17] yeah he's developed a reputation with

[1:31:20] all the Reps that all he wants to do is

[1:31:21] eat garbage it's funny because I'm not

[1:31:23] into that I like good food but I'm also

[1:31:25] realistic like I I don't want to go and

[1:31:28] blow 150 for some bougie ass food when I

[1:31:31] have like two minutes to eat you know

[1:31:33] what I mean yeah like I'll do Checkers

[1:31:35] and I'll be in the bathroom all night

[1:31:36] but I'll do it all right next one

[1:31:40] I appreciate the banner mark thank you

[1:31:41] yeah I'm just going to leave that on

[1:31:45] um

[1:31:46] oh we did that thanks again

[1:31:49] I don't know how to click okay uh Clyde

[1:31:52] Oasis for five dollars best used fun car

[1:31:55] for ten dollars all right here we go

[1:31:57] ten thousand dollars this is easy

[1:32:00] because every single video is now

[1:32:02] talking about it the Honda Fit Sport

[1:32:04] with a manual transmission is it really

[1:32:05] under 10 grand yeah you can get it for

[1:32:07] like you can get a 2010 2011 fit with a

[1:32:11] manual for like 10 grand or less and you

[1:32:13] do what you have to do a forty thousand

[1:32:14] dollar case swap to make it fun no

[1:32:17] they're really fun cars and they're

[1:32:19] super Nimble and they're super practical

[1:32:21] and that's right they just brought out

[1:32:23] yeah there you go yeah I'm just gonna

[1:32:25] fly on the bandwagon

[1:32:28] I bought uh Dak 101 thank you for the 20

[1:32:31] donation sir I bought a 981 Cayman S

[1:32:34] last year now I hate driving my Outback

[1:32:36] Dad mobile ideas for a replacement under

[1:32:39] 45 000 man you want to replace the

[1:32:42] Outback with something fun

[1:32:44] oh that one's hard for under 45 uh

[1:32:49] Civic SI that's a pretty but the problem

[1:32:51] the Outback is so big and so usable

[1:32:54] yeah it is that's a hard trade-off you

[1:32:56] know Mike is doing that he decided NSI

[1:32:58] they were going to get an Outback yeah

[1:33:00] this is Sonata finally shut the did I

[1:33:02] tell you that no it's engine let go or

[1:33:04] like basically let go

[1:33:07] um and he's like I'm getting an Outback

[1:33:08] or Forester you got an SS no he wants an

[1:33:10] outside he's like I'm gonna he's like I

[1:33:12] can't do it I physically can't do a

[1:33:14] commute in that so now we you know

[1:33:17] trying to find an essay is going to be a

[1:33:18] real challenge but um

[1:33:20] that's really hard because there's not a

[1:33:22] lot at that price tag other than like

[1:33:24] your commodity [ __ ] like uh RAV4s and

[1:33:27] you're gonna die inside driving some of

[1:33:29] these yeah coming from the Porsche the

[1:33:31] 981 dude there's nothing like you have

[1:33:34] to get like an X3 and the WRX GTI there

[1:33:37] you go the problem is it's small

[1:33:38] compared to the Outback right you no

[1:33:40] literally you have to go to an SUV from

[1:33:42] that there's nothing else it's not under

[1:33:43] 44 Grand

[1:33:44] I don't know you can't get a used X3 I

[1:33:46] mean you could like yeah you can get to

[1:33:49] use X3 for under 45 or you get a used 3

[1:33:51] Series wagon I mean if you want

[1:33:52] something that's more fun you just a

[1:33:55] roll in the dice with a reliability yeah

[1:33:57] tough one three series wagon if you can

[1:33:59] find one oh good luck what do you wagon

[1:34:01] man

[1:34:05] yeah Brown diesel

[1:34:08] um dj39 for five dollars how long will

[1:34:11] they sell the ice Porsche Macan

[1:34:13] alongside Evie mccon coming out next

[1:34:15] year would you get if if you what would

[1:34:18] you get if you had to choose I'd get the

[1:34:19] ice version immediately over the EV

[1:34:22] unless you live within the what a what a

[1:34:25] horrible manual you know

[1:34:27] geez you just can't get on with the

[1:34:30] future can you

[1:34:31] um

[1:34:31] I think they'll probably start alongside

[1:34:33] for a year or two maybe three max

[1:34:35] they've already extended out the life of

[1:34:37] the con they're not going to re-engineer

[1:34:40] that platform so that's gonna be right

[1:34:41] honestly I'll just go for the Macon and

[1:34:43] like see what they do because it's going

[1:34:45] to take them I know they're they're uh

[1:34:47] EV platforms will be good but they're

[1:34:49] not gonna have that [ __ ] figured out

[1:34:51] like first generation unless you're

[1:34:52] Leasing and then that changes yeah you

[1:34:54] lease that Macon and then you flip it in

[1:34:56] three years to the next pile done next

[1:34:58] question sir

[1:35:01] foreign

[1:35:03] what do you guys think about the fact

[1:35:04] that many YouTubers are getting the new

[1:35:06] Type R mark

[1:35:10] you could just play the Curb Your

[1:35:11] Enthusiasm is like over the over the

[1:35:13] background of this I don't give a [ __ ]

[1:35:14] what they get

[1:35:15] you know like I don't know if they got

[1:35:17] it because they like it I think they

[1:35:18] just got it to get it some of them

[1:35:21] yeah I mean tofu is amazing I know he's

[1:35:23] gonna beat the [ __ ] out of that car and

[1:35:25] he and I got a gr86 at the same time

[1:35:27] identical way through the region same

[1:35:29] with everyday driver they got a gr86 the

[1:35:32] same time we did but a lot for the same

[1:35:33] reason you guys asked for it we did a

[1:35:35] series on it Type R is for you you're

[1:35:37] not doing a series on it I don't I

[1:35:39] really don't want to do a series on it I

[1:35:40] I mean the only time I'm going to use

[1:35:41] that type R is just to do like when we

[1:35:44] do our gr Corolla comparison so I don't

[1:35:46] have to beg for a press car or wait

[1:35:47] forever we can have as much time as we

[1:35:49] want with it then it's gonna sit like

[1:35:52] that's a car for me personally like it

[1:35:53] means something to me personally even

[1:35:55] though I don't think the car is like the

[1:35:56] gr86 is going to go away I think we're

[1:35:58] gonna get a gr Corolla man same thing

[1:36:00] you guys have been asking for that car

[1:36:01] for a million years and we're probably

[1:36:03] gonna get it from SRP and everybody's

[1:36:04] gonna be pissed off but the purpose of

[1:36:06] it is clearly to like in the sake of a

[1:36:09] comparison test it would be great to

[1:36:11] have two cars that we owned where you're

[1:36:12] not having to bag manufacturers for

[1:36:14] stuff in the new uh like a long-term

[1:36:16] ownership series online that's a car

[1:36:17] that much like the 86 I'll pull the oil

[1:36:19] pan off I'll work with counter space

[1:36:20] garage we'll figure out what problems

[1:36:22] there are so hopefully you can use the

[1:36:23] series and my trials and tribulations as

[1:36:26] a buyer's guide I'm not going to go

[1:36:28] through what Jack went through with the

[1:36:29] 86 I've already done that like well like

[1:36:31] you pull that thing out of the [ __ ]

[1:36:32] garage and the suspension is like and

[1:36:35] the brake pads again exact same thing

[1:36:37] that's going to happen in the gr Corolla

[1:36:39] again that's not necessarily for me just

[1:36:42] to do a series on so you guys can learn

[1:36:43] about the vehicle

[1:36:45] all right next question hopefully that

[1:36:47] makes sense I mean it's not going to

[1:36:48] make sense people are gonna I might as

[1:36:50] well just sell the type R now for over

[1:36:52] sticker

[1:36:53] that's what I should do is sell it for

[1:36:55] like forty thousand dollar profit okay

[1:36:57] but look what I made can I use your gr

[1:36:59] curl a long-term review to justify my 30

[1:37:01] 30k ATM if you pay 70 000 for a gr

[1:37:05] Corolla don't don't don't do it don't I

[1:37:08] will come to your house and admit you

[1:37:10] into the hospital unless you buy mine

[1:37:11] yeah bye Jack so then he can give me the

[1:37:14] money so I don't so then you can pay me

[1:37:17] so I can listen to your Corvette stories

[1:37:18] and be happy about it Mark let me tell

[1:37:21] you about my Corvette

[1:37:23] it's got my what do you say my interior

[1:37:25] looks like Werther's Originals I bought

[1:37:28] Jack I won't talk while I'm eating

[1:37:30] because I'm having crackers I'm feeling

[1:37:32] a little bit indigestion from all this

[1:37:33] talking about V8s about V8s um

[1:37:38] yeah so we brought the the vet to

[1:37:40] Chicago Auto Bros as soon as Jack drove

[1:37:41] it back from the factory and you know

[1:37:44] there's anxiety about new cars I'm not

[1:37:46] gonna I'm not gonna lie like to me 40

[1:37:49] 000 is a lot Thirty thousand's a lot for

[1:37:51] a new car but when you get to like

[1:37:53] whatever six figures for a car the level

[1:37:57] anxiety just watching him drive this car

[1:37:59] I'm like dude please let's just get it

[1:38:01] back so there's not a chip or a link

[1:38:03] she's already a chip on the rear wing

[1:38:05] just driving it back oh whatever so yeah

[1:38:07] when they pulled when he pulled it into

[1:38:08] Chicago Auto Pros they're like oh that

[1:38:09] looks like Butterscotch the interior and

[1:38:11] then it like clicked I'm like where are

[1:38:12] those Originals so it's sitting in the

[1:38:15] garage rotting and I I put a huge bag of

[1:38:17] orders in his driver's seat and he

[1:38:18] finally drove it out for the first time

[1:38:19] oh did you sit on the bag hopefully no I

[1:38:21] didn't exactly no we're too hopefully it

[1:38:23] gets really hot in there and they just

[1:38:24] melts

[1:38:26] um oh here I want to answer this

[1:38:28] question sorry just got here here for

[1:38:30] the worst phone award whatever phone

[1:38:31] Mark has it was the worst phone I've

[1:38:34] ever seen all right it doesn't do phone

[1:38:36] calls all right let's let's do that

[1:38:37] first so we can take a break from the

[1:38:39] comments not that I really want to

[1:38:40] because we got a lot to get through

[1:38:43] um

[1:38:43] where is it here

[1:38:49] all right so I pre-ordered this Gem of

[1:38:52] engineering a Sony Xperia one four okay

[1:38:57] Mark IV technically that's what the four

[1:38:59] stands for because everything in uh

[1:39:01] camera technology has to be marked

[1:39:03] something like generational

[1:39:05] so this thing I pre-ordered and I forgot

[1:39:08] I pre-ordered it why because it was

[1:39:10] supposed to be The Cutting Edge of

[1:39:11] camera technology for creators it has

[1:39:14] the first and only optical zoom so when

[1:39:18] you have the camera up it will it has a

[1:39:21] physical or a mechanical shift in the

[1:39:24] lens so it can zoom in with the lens

[1:39:26] versus digital all right great it shoots

[1:39:28] 4K it shoots HDR it does all these

[1:39:32] high-end things and you can see here

[1:39:33] I'll try to hold it

[1:39:35] each one of these

[1:39:38] here

[1:39:39] there's four different camera apps

[1:39:42] ones for video video Pro one Cinema Pro

[1:39:46] one's Photo Pro and then to record audio

[1:39:48] there's another app for that in each one

[1:39:51] of the interfaces doesn't do the same

[1:39:53] thing so I bought it for a camera tool

[1:39:56] for the video stuff and it's been very

[1:39:58] very not good it's not been good