Why I'm EVEN MORE worried about the DCU now | Supergirl BOMBS

[00:00] Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers Show. I'm

[00:02] your host, Paul. And in this video, I

[00:04] want to talk about why I'm even more

[00:06] worried about the future of the DCU.

[00:08] Now, if you follow the channel and

[00:09] dedicate your very being to watching us,

[00:11] then you might remember that 7 months

[00:13] ago, I did a video talking about why I

[00:15] was worried about the future of the DCU.

[00:17] In it, I talked about the Paramount

[00:18] merger, Supergirl, and Clayface, and why

[00:21] I was worried about the level that those

[00:23] projects would perform at. Now, things

[00:25] have come to pass, and Supergirl has

[00:27] opened below MorbiiUs.

[00:30] I wasn't having a [ __ ] there, right? But

[00:33] it's brought in just $68 million

[00:35] worldwide, which is not good when you're

[00:37] wanting to build something that's going

[00:38] to rival and potentially even surpass

[00:40] Marvel. To be fair, though, MorbiiUs did

[00:43] make one more billion dollars. So, yeah,

[00:45] everything's going to fall short. But I

[00:47] think whatever way you look at it,

[00:48] there's going to be a lot of worries

[00:50] about the long-term viability of the

[00:52] DCU. Hell, I was even thinking like

[00:54] yesterday, like how many out of the last

[00:56] 20 DC movies have actually made money?

[00:58] because I think we're talking in the

[00:59] single figures if you start adding it

[01:01] up. Beyond just the box office

[01:02] performances though and numbers on the

[01:04] streaming shows like Creature Commandos

[01:06] and Peacemaker, there's also a massive

[01:08] corporate upheaval. So, in this video, I

[01:10] want to discuss the state of things and

[01:12] where I think things will likely end up.

[01:14] Obviously, I want to frame this more as

[01:16] a conversation as well. So, if you want

[01:18] to add to it, disagree with me or

[01:20] whatever, then the comment section below

[01:22] is exactly where you can go. And I don't

[01:24] mean that in like a bad way like go to

[01:26] the comment section. Go then have a have

[01:28] a good time have a read and have a chat.

[01:30] Now in order to understand the current

[01:32] anxieties about the future we can simply

[01:34] look at the past. I was there Gandalf

[01:37] thousands of years ago and I remember

[01:39] what happened with Zack Snder. In 2013

[01:41] he launched Man of Steel and though

[01:43] things weren't wellreceived critically

[01:45] right from the off. The universe

[01:46] actually produced lots of financial

[01:48] successes. Man of Steel did a similar

[01:50] number to Superman from last year and on

[01:51] top of that you had Blu-ray sales and so

[01:53] on and so on. though it's pretty

[01:55] contested I think because of the

[01:57] aftermarket and inflation that Man of

[01:59] Steel has outperformed Superman because

[02:02] yeah physical media sales were great

[02:04] aftermarket you also had the rental

[02:06] market like Blockbusters then you had

[02:08] them selling things to cable networks

[02:09] and blah blah blah there was lots of

[02:12] stuff back then that doesn't exist today

[02:14] I think they then expected Batman v

[02:15] Superman to make a billion and when it

[02:17] didn't they started to worry but I think

[02:20] if they got those numbers today they'd

[02:22] actually be happy with them Woman did

[02:24] well critically and commercially. And

[02:26] Aquaman grossed over a billion. And it

[02:28] was all because of that Pitbull song in

[02:30] it that I had burned out of my brain

[02:32] until people started talking about

[02:33] Needle Drops this weekend and how the

[02:35] Supergirl one was the worst one ever.

[02:37] And someone was like, "No, the Pitbull

[02:39] one from Aquaman." And I was like,

[02:40] "Yeah, fair enough. That was the worst."

[02:42] There was also a Suicide Squad as well,

[02:44] and things did seem to be going well, at

[02:46] least financially. However, due to

[02:48] critical reception and a personal

[02:50] tragedy in Snider's life, that vision

[02:52] kind of got brushed to the side in favor

[02:54] of doing more light-hearted things.

[02:56] Eventually, we got later entries that

[02:58] collapsed under the weight of production

[02:59] issues, re-shoots, and external

[03:01] controversies. And all this culminated

[03:03] in stuff like The Flash. The Rock was

[03:05] also vying for his own universe. Henry

[03:08] Caval was announcing he was back as

[03:09] Superman one day and then fired the

[03:11] next. And you just had this constant

[03:13] state of flux where it seemed like

[03:14] everything was up in the air. Now, on

[03:16] top of this, I think there's definitely

[03:17] been a decline in audience interest

[03:19] across the board when it comes to these

[03:21] superhero movies. I talked about this in

[03:23] the last video and kind of likened it to

[03:24] music tastes. For example, you can look

[03:26] throughout time and see almost every

[03:28] decade has its own style of music that

[03:31] dominates pop culture. Whether it's rock

[03:33] and roll in the '60s, disco in the 70s,

[03:36] 80s music in the 80s, trends tend to

[03:38] rise and then become popular and then

[03:41] die out before being replaced by

[03:43] something else. Tastes change. Western

[03:45] movies weren't popular forever and it

[03:48] for sure as [ __ ] won't happen with

[03:49] superhero movies. But yeah, because of

[03:51] taste changing, people getting sick of

[03:53] stuff. I do think that the comic book

[03:54] movie genre is on its way out. Sure, we

[03:57] will have big successes. I'm sure

[03:58] Doomsday will do well. I'm sure

[04:00] Spider-Man will, Batman will always do

[04:02] well, but these lesserknown characters,

[04:05] people just aren't interested and it's

[04:07] not going to draw people in. You have so

[04:08] many projects at this point that we've

[04:10] kind of hit a point where it's all sort

[04:12] of much of a muchness. So, I did think

[04:14] when James Gun came out and announced

[04:15] they had a brand new phase that maybe it

[04:18] wouldn't even get brought to fruition

[04:19] because people are kind of past the

[04:21] point of caring. Was also a bit worried

[04:23] because there wasn't a full-on hard

[04:25] reset, which I personally think was

[04:27] something they needed to do. I know a

[04:29] couple of people who don't even realize

[04:30] this is a brand new universe because

[04:32] things just seem like there's no real

[04:34] disconnect between what's come before

[04:36] and this. Instead, they're kind of still

[04:39] tethered to the previous movies purely

[04:41] due to retaining some things. I'm a big

[04:43] fan of the phrase, don't be afraid to

[04:44] kill your darlings. And I do think

[04:46] though Gun had built up some characters.

[04:49] You know, he'd done a lot of work. He

[04:51] did need to hard reset and basically get

[04:54] rid of those characters as well and just

[04:55] start things a fresh. Because of that

[04:57] though, all the hang-ups and hangovers

[04:59] from the previous universe are still

[05:00] going to exist, even if they're coming

[05:02] out and clearly saying that this is DC's

[05:04] chapter 1, gods and monsters. But either

[05:07] way, the DC cinematic universe has been

[05:09] a mess for over a decade now. Whether

[05:11] it's Snider getting replaced on Justice

[05:13] League by Joss Weeden, the Hermadverse,

[05:15] The Rock, and then all the Gunverse were

[05:17] always in a state of flux where the

[05:19] studio is clearly just having these

[05:21] knee-jerk reactions at the first sign of

[05:23] trouble. However, Superman did kind of

[05:25] deliver on the promise of guns, saying

[05:27] that they were going for quality. Now,

[05:28] I've been pretty open in saying that I I

[05:31] personally didn't enjoy the movie that

[05:33] much, but I know I'm in the minority and

[05:35] that it was wellreceived. So, even with

[05:37] that, I was like, "Yeah, fair enough.

[05:39] wasn't for me, but things will get

[05:42] better. Also, just as a side note, um I

[05:44] am someone who sometimes takes a long

[05:47] time to adjust to things. I'm ashamed to

[05:49] admit this, uh but I really didn't like

[05:51] Batman Begins or Casino Royale when they

[05:53] first came out. They were just so

[05:55] different to what I thought stuff should

[05:57] be that when they dropped, I was like,

[05:59] "This this ain't for me. This isn't like

[06:02] it was back in my day." I was about 18

[06:04] years old. But yeah, these days are like

[06:06] two of my favorite films. And there was

[06:08] a part of me that thought, I can see the

[06:10] good in this. It's just not for me right

[06:12] now in terms of where I am. I think

[06:15] where Gun got stuff bang on though was

[06:16] with the hopeful tone, the casting, and

[06:19] the sort of comic book metropolis that

[06:21] was brought to life on screen. In

[06:23] general, I get a lot of [ __ ] on the

[06:24] channel for seeming like a gun hater.

[06:26] But I think the Guardians trilogy was

[06:27] excellent, and I have liked way more of

[06:30] his stuff than I haven't actually also

[06:32] think he's been really good to YouTubers

[06:33] as well. and all those interviews he did

[06:35] with like Ryan and Boba talks, you know,

[06:38] it was something he didn't have to do,

[06:40] but in my eyes was really positive and

[06:43] helped the show that the studios

[06:44] appreciate the people who love and

[06:46] support their stuff. But being

[06:47] realistic, it was clear that the film

[06:50] didn't quite hit the mark when it came

[06:51] to its worldwide reception. It

[06:53] underperformed globally and kind of got

[06:55] propped up by its US box office, which

[06:57] even led to people at the studio saying

[06:58] that maybe the rest of the world just

[07:00] didn't like Superman, which uh I

[07:02] probably disagree with, but where are we

[07:04] going next? Supergirl. Oh no. But look,

[07:07] it seemed like things were going in the

[07:08] right direction. And though it didn't

[07:10] break the bank, it was quite a good

[07:12] starting off point and actually the

[07:14] first DC film to make money in a long

[07:16] time outside of the Matt Reeves Batman

[07:18] stuff. So, it felt like it was starting

[07:20] the momentum and might justify a

[07:22] multi-year investment for the audience.

[07:24] Now, when they said Supergirl and

[07:26] Clayface were the next two films, I was

[07:28] a bit like m before as well when I was

[07:31] like, "What's next? Supergirl." I wasn't

[07:33] saying it cuz I'm sexist. I was saying

[07:34] cuz Superman wasn't like worldwide and

[07:36] Supergirl is a spit off of that. I think

[07:38] I've avoided the cancellation there. In

[07:40] general though, I think Gun

[07:41] sensibilities are to take obscure

[07:43] characters that aren't necessarily the

[07:45] big names and push them forward to try

[07:47] and give audiences something new and

[07:49] fresh. In general, I think he's someone

[07:51] who's just attracted to those kind of

[07:52] characters. And you could kind of tell

[07:54] that by the fact the first project in

[07:56] the DCU was Creature Commandos. Hell,

[07:59] Gun was even given free reign when he

[08:01] was hired to make Suicide Squad. And out

[08:03] of everything, that is the project that

[08:05] he said he wanted to make the most. Now,

[08:07] I am someone who is a bit I don't know

[08:09] adverse to risk when it comes to

[08:11] building a foundation. So, I personally

[08:14] think they should have established the

[08:15] trinity first and basically have done

[08:17] Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Yes,

[08:19] I am basic. I think though when you're

[08:21] building something that you should have

[08:22] the characters that are the safest bests

[08:24] first because that's going to get the

[08:26] most eyeballs on them and make more

[08:28] people interested in exploring the other

[08:30] characters. I know Marvel didn't lead

[08:32] with their big names either, but that's

[08:34] because they literally had nothing else

[08:36] to work with, but I'm just kind of

[08:37] baffled that they've had over like nine

[08:39] flops in a row in the DCU and have still

[08:41] come out sort of betting on the

[08:43] sealisters. And mate, the other day I

[08:45] seen them announced Jimmy Olsen and

[08:46] Guerilla Garage Show and I was a bit

[08:48] like I I don't know, mate. I don't know.

[08:51] They need to move beyond just making

[08:52] projects for a small core audience,

[08:54] which is kind of the problem that Star

[08:56] Wars has run into as well. So, Supergirl

[08:59] I was a bit trepidacious on. Not because

[09:01] I'm sexist, you son of a [ __ ] Uh, but

[09:03] because she hadn't been in a big film

[09:05] and both her solo movie in the Flash

[09:07] bombed at the box office. Now, where

[09:09] doubts started to creep in was because

[09:11] of Woman of Tomorrow. I'm pretty sure

[09:13] this is the highest selling Supergirl

[09:15] comic of all time. And across the board,

[09:17] it's also regarded as being the best. It

[09:19] seemed like something that could really

[09:20] show that they valued quality first. And

[09:23] this is something that Gun was pushing

[09:24] as well. Right out the gate, he was

[09:26] saying that DC was going to be a studio

[09:28] where they wouldn't greenlight a movie

[09:29] unless the script was excellent, and we

[09:31] even saw projects fall by the wayside

[09:33] that didn't seem to live up to it. For

[09:35] example, you go back to that original

[09:37] video where he announces the slay and

[09:39] there's like loads there that has either

[09:41] been cancelled or we just haven't heard

[09:43] about. I also think the way that shared

[09:45] movie universes in general work make

[09:47] them pretty difficult to run. For

[09:48] example, Matt Reeves's Batman part two

[09:51] has got a lot of [ __ ] because of how

[09:53] long it's taken to make. But writing a

[09:55] script, finishing the script, and then

[09:58] shooting it, that's how movies used to

[10:00] be made. You see, back in the day, kids,

[10:02] uh, if you were a screenwriter, you'd

[10:04] you'd come up with the idea for the

[10:05] story. You'd sit down, you'd write out

[10:07] the whole thing, you'd get the

[10:09] beginning, middle, and end, hand it in,

[10:11] and go, "This is good. I like it. Maybe

[10:13] change this. Have we got the edits all

[10:15] done?" Great. It's all good to go. we're

[10:16] gonna go make the movie. Now though,

[10:18] they seem to just go in and hodge podge

[10:20] something together, film it, and figure

[10:22] it out as they're making it, which is

[10:24] something that's gonna cause issues.

[10:26] Though they've said that's not what

[10:28] they're doing at DC, it's clear this

[10:30] movie didn't have things nailed down and

[10:32] that they changed quite a lot in

[10:33] post-prouction. Unfortunately, with

[10:35] shared universes, you ultimately have to

[10:37] rush into stuff because if you don't,

[10:39] there's too big of a gap between

[10:41] projects. You might even hit the point

[10:43] where you announce something, stuff

[10:44] stalls, and then you can't really make

[10:46] it because the gap is too big and

[10:48] there's a big clash between where you

[10:51] are now and where you were when you

[10:52] announced things. See Blade for example.

[10:55] But because of Woman of Tomorrow, how

[10:57] good that that was. James Gun being

[10:59] like, we're not going to make [ __ ]

[11:00] around here. Superman also being good as

[11:03] well. It seemed like things were going

[11:04] to be good. Now, in all of this, looming

[11:07] on the horizon was Netflix and

[11:09] Paramount's bid to buy Warner Brothers.

[11:11] said this in the last video, but

[11:13] obviously, you know, they're going to be

[11:14] buying this company and wanting to make

[11:16] money. I can see them totally coming in

[11:18] and basically wanting to creatively

[11:20] stifle gun sensibilities and do the

[11:22] basic [ __ ] strategy that I talked about

[11:24] before. Time is something we only get a

[11:26] finite amount of. And that's also the

[11:28] case with money. So, I can really see

[11:30] them coming in and being like, look,

[11:32] shared universes cost billions and

[11:34] billions of dollars cuz you're producing

[11:35] so many like $250 million movies. Um,

[11:39] they take years and years to produce

[11:41] these films. And why are we doing this

[11:44] for these B and C list characters when

[11:46] we could just be making a Batman movie

[11:48] that actually makes back money? I don't

[11:50] even think fans can be mad at the studio

[11:52] either cuz to Warner Brothers credit,

[11:54] they've given lots of characters their

[11:55] own solo films and taking risks. Wonder

[11:58] Woman starred in BBS, two versions of

[12:00] Justice League, and also got two solo

[12:02] movies. And she was in Shazam, too, as

[12:04] well. I've just remembered that. Not in

[12:06] the script, but I just remembered it.

[12:07] But Aquaman was the same and we got two

[12:09] Shazam movies, Black Adam, Blue Beetle,

[12:12] The Flash. There was lots of characters

[12:15] given chances and lots that bombed. So,

[12:18] back to formula it is. Nah, but I think

[12:20] Supergirl has possibly shown the real

[12:22] results of what these characters can do

[12:24] financially, and I think Paramount will

[12:26] probably want to steer the ship into the

[12:28] safer bet territory, which I'm not sure

[12:31] if James Gun wants to do judging off his

[12:33] past choices. Beyond that, his contract

[12:35] is also up in 2027, so either party

[12:38] could decide the directions not right

[12:40] for them, and they have the actual

[12:42] financial results to worry them as well.

[12:44] Supergirl is estimated to have a budget

[12:46] between $170 and $186 million, and from

[12:50] the off, it faced a litany of

[12:51] nightmares. The film went through three

[12:53] composers, and there was also a rumored

[12:55] 25 minutes cut from the film.

[12:57] Pre-release tracking was also quite low

[12:59] as well, with them estimating the movie

[13:00] might make $50 million domestically. We

[13:02] now know though that it made just 38

[13:04] million and this was alarming for a

[13:06] number of reasons. It definitely won't

[13:08] be turning a profit and I think it

[13:10] represents a big drop from the launch of

[13:12] Superman. Now, anytime I've seen this

[13:14] brought up, um the obvious reply is to

[13:16] say that the MCU phase 1 movies didn't

[13:18] do crazy numbers either. Think you have

[13:20] to remember though that that's from the

[13:22] time before the superhero craze really

[13:25] took off. You're kind of comparing the

[13:27] first couple of disco albums to

[13:28] something released in the 80s. just two

[13:30] totally different time periods and

[13:32] expectations are of course wildly

[13:34] different. Plus, we just have so many

[13:36] superhero projects right now. It's just

[13:39] contextwise,

[13:41] it's not the same thing as MCU phase 1.

[13:43] I think when we live in a society where

[13:46] Marvel Studios Fantastic 4 movie

[13:48] underperforms that you have to realize

[13:49] that things just aren't the same and the

[13:51] market's totally different. I can

[13:53] guarantee right now that even if our

[13:55] lord and savior Christopher Nolan just

[13:57] kept making Batman movies every two

[13:58] years that the ones he was releasing now

[14:01] wouldn't be doing as well as the Dark

[14:03] Knight. Now, had the film been

[14:04] wellreceived and I think that could be

[14:06] spun that there might be other reasons

[14:08] for the performance. Ultimately though,

[14:10] word of mouth was terrible and the

[14:12] audience scores and reviews are pretty

[14:13] low in general. So, yeah, just I don't

[14:16] think it was ever going to perform well

[14:18] because of the movie that they made. I'm

[14:20] sure of course there will be people who

[14:22] enjoy it, but I think we have a good

[14:23] picture of the public consensus and it's

[14:25] pretty clear people disliked it than

[14:28] liked it. Also know there's people

[14:30] saying that it's because people don't

[14:31] want women led superhero movies but like

[14:33] um Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel

[14:35] disprove that by quite a bit. They show

[14:38] that they can be successful, but you

[14:40] have to do something that really sells

[14:42] the movie which this film just didn't

[14:44] have. you know, Krypto pissing on a

[14:46] picture of Superman as the first shot

[14:48] probably pissed people off. Uh, and the

[14:50] buzz around the film, every article that

[14:52] came out, it just seemed like things got

[14:55] more and more negative. I did even think

[14:57] in general that this might be a makeup

[14:59] break year for the DCU. We have

[15:01] Supergirl, Lanterns on TV, Clayface, and

[15:04] then the production of Man of Tomorrow.

[15:06] So, Supergirl is kind of if they can

[15:08] successfully bring side characters who

[15:09] cameoed in films to be successes on

[15:11] their own. Lens is whether they can make

[15:13] a TV streaming show a big success if

[15:16] they're using some of their A-listers

[15:18] and Clayface is whether the dark and

[15:20] disturbing stuff that makes up the

[15:21] monster part of Gods and Monsters is

[15:23] going to be wellreceived too. If all

[15:25] these fail to generate sufficient

[15:27] revenue, then I do think Warner Brothers

[15:29] might reassess their commitments.

[15:31] They've done it in the past. And the

[15:32] worst thing is they didn't even warn a

[15:35] brother. Yes. Yes, we did it again. This

[15:37] son of a [ __ ] Now, we did hear that

[15:39] David Ellison flew out to me. James Gun

[15:41] got a man of tomorrow to say he was

[15:42] invested in the vision, but I think guns

[15:44] leadership and creative control is tied

[15:46] to the old regime, so they might impose

[15:48] different things. There also might be

[15:50] more financial oversight, and they could

[15:52] even force DC to prioritize other IPs.

[15:55] Think DC's value is completely

[15:57] undeniable as a whole, but they'll

[15:59] probably want to focus on the surefire

[16:01] wins as opposed to taking risks. Though

[16:03] Gun did make Supergirl, per se, it

[16:06] definitely has a lot of his fingerprints

[16:07] on it. And you know, whenever something

[16:09] does badly, people are always looking

[16:10] for someone to blame. And I think the

[16:13] blame is probably going to fall at his

[16:15] feet because he's the face of the

[16:17] studio. If subsequent entries like

[16:19] Clayface or Lanterns also struggle, it's

[16:22] because of his choices. And the entire

[16:25] shared universe experiment could be

[16:26] deemed too risky or expensive. And

[16:29] profitability is always a pressure.

[16:31] Normally, if a film doesn't do well

[16:33] critically, like Minecraft or something,

[16:34] you can brush it to the side because

[16:36] it's done so well financially. But if a

[16:39] film like Supergirl underperforms

[16:40] theatrically, then it gets intense

[16:42] scrutiny, not only from the audience,

[16:44] YouTubers like me, but also from the

[16:46] studio itself. So, I think the timing of

[16:48] this and the results are basically yeah,

[16:51] not making me feel confident that we

[16:53] have a universe in slay that lasts 10

[16:56] years or more. Gun already talked to

[16:58] Boba talks about this as well and said

[17:00] that after Man of Tomorrow, he is unsure

[17:02] where things could be heading and if

[17:04] he'll even be the one who's doing it.

[17:06] Again, that contract ends in 2027. And I

[17:08] do even wonder if the wheels are in

[17:10] motion right now behind the scenes and

[17:11] they're just putting on a happy face

[17:13] while they're rolling things on Man of

[17:15] Tomorrow. God knows they've already seen

[17:17] the results of coming out and being

[17:18] like, "Oh, all those movies coming out,

[17:21] the next four, mate. Don't bother going

[17:22] to see them, mate. We're restarting the

[17:24] universe." And that basically killed

[17:26] Shazam 2, the Flash, Blue Beetle, and

[17:28] Aquaman 2. So, I can't see them being

[17:31] like, "Oh, yeah, we're scrapping this,

[17:33] mate. Things will be quiet if it's

[17:35] happening." Now, beyond that, I know it

[17:37] seems like I'm saying the sky is

[17:38] falling. Uh, but I don't think these

[17:40] worries are baseless and in fact are

[17:44] pretty grounded in corporate reality and

[17:46] observable data. The Paramount

[17:48] acquisition brings in some big

[17:50] uncertainty. And no matter what business

[17:52] you're in, new leadership coming in

[17:53] always has a focus on clear paths to

[17:55] profitability and it's normally less

[17:58] tolerant to losses. Superman did well,

[18:00] but not at the point of basically

[18:02] insulated the franchise from other

[18:03] criticisms in the way that Spider-Man

[18:05] and Multiverse of Madness helped

[18:07] dissuade criticism around some of the

[18:09] bombs in the recent MCU phases. That

[18:11] said, I do wonder if the past shakeups

[18:14] and guns reputation in general might

[18:16] also help. I'm really of the mind that

[18:18] even if things keep bombing, they should

[18:20] just steer the course, stay with how

[18:24] things are, wrap things up in a team of

[18:26] film, and then finish things after that.

[18:29] Tell a complete story. Like, in general,

[18:31] mate, if Zack Snder had got to release

[18:33] Justice League, they had that that set

[18:35] of films. That would have been it. There

[18:37] would have been no more chaos. It was

[18:38] the fact they didn't let things wrap up

[18:41] that caused so many issues, so much

[18:43] reaction, and I think the audience will

[18:46] just lose faith and not get invested in

[18:48] things going forward. If it's like, oh,

[18:51] here's another reboot. Make sure you get

[18:52] excited about it. We might stop making

[18:55] them in two years time and reboot again.

[18:57] It's kind of like, fool me once, shame

[18:59] on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. You

[19:04] You can't get fooled again. Basically, I

[19:06] think it would be a bad strategy in

[19:07] general to do another reboot after this.

[19:10] Um, so even if I'm not haven't really

[19:13] enjoyed either Superman or Supergirl

[19:15] that much, um, I think it would be a

[19:17] mistake to just reboot things once more.

[19:20] Gun's track record with Guardians of the

[19:22] Galaxy and the Suicide Squad, they

[19:24] demonstrate an ability to deliver

[19:26] distinctive superhero fair that works

[19:28] for the majority of the audience. After

[19:30] what's happened this weekend, I think

[19:31] they really need to come out swinging

[19:33] and that Comic- Con needs to have some

[19:35] massive, massive announcements. I also

[19:37] think they could do something with

[19:38] Clayface where they have a Batman cameo

[19:41] and do it where that's when they

[19:42] announce who's playing him. If you cast

[19:44] your mind back to the Flash screenings,

[19:45] you might remember that they cut off

[19:47] before revealing who is playing Batman.

[19:48] There was lots of rumors there was a

[19:50] past actor and I remember hearing it and

[19:51] being like, "Oh, mate, it's got to be

[19:53] Bale. Christian Bale is back." wasn't

[19:55] the case obviously, but stuff like that

[19:57] can really elevate hype and I think that

[19:59] would get a lot of eyeballs on the film

[20:01] and it probably wouldn't be that

[20:02] difficult to just add in that scene and

[20:05] doing like a minute long or even 30

[20:08] seconds could add a couple million to

[20:10] the box office. Ultimately though, DC

[20:13] survival will depend on how Supergirl

[20:15] legs out and how everything does between

[20:17] now and Man of Tomorrow. However,

[20:19] without stronger box office results and

[20:21] stable corporate support, the fears that

[20:23] the DCU may not continue in its current

[20:25] ambitious form, I feel are very real.

[20:28] The next 12 to 18 months will likely

[20:31] determine whether this reboot becomes a

[20:33] sustained success story or another

[20:35] chapter in DC's long history of

[20:37] cinematic reinvention and

[20:38] disappointment. I even wonder like after

[20:40] this what Gun's going to do. Um, and I

[20:43] do kind of hope that he goes and

[20:44] stretches his creative muscles on

[20:46] something else. I'd love to see him do a

[20:48] horror movie or something. In general,

[20:50] as someone who's been covering this

[20:52] genre for nearly 10 years myself, I can

[20:54] imagine being in this space is quite

[20:58] creatively limiting. Um, especially if

[21:00] you're doing decades and decades of it.

[21:02] So, I hope he just goes off and makes

[21:04] something else if this falls apart, but

[21:05] I also kind of hope that it doesn't fall

[21:07] apart. But yeah, that's my worries in

[21:09] regards to how things have gone this

[21:10] weekend. And I'd of course love to hear

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