Xbox is in Trouble: Asha Sharma's "Reset" Memo Explained - Unlocked Clips

[00:00] But I think what it is time to bring up,

[00:04] I mean, in fairness, the community's

[00:06] been talking about this for a while, and

[00:08] some people have really strong feelings

[00:10] about it one way or the other.

[00:13] >> We are now 9 years officially into the

[00:17] Game Pass experiment.

[00:19] >> And I think it is fair. I'm not I don't

[00:21] say that in like a derogatory way

[00:23] experiment like it

[00:25] >> it had never been done before like a

[00:27] especially a major first party trying to

[00:29] create by their own words I don't know

[00:31] if they ever literally said this but we

[00:33] all understand Game Pass to be an

[00:35] attempt

[00:36] >> to be the the Netflix of video games

[00:40] >> and it was going to take a lot of money

[00:42] to to pull off and so you know

[00:44] Microsoft's got plenty of that in their

[00:45] war chest. So, we're 9 years into the

[00:47] Game Pass experiment. And so the

[00:50] question that I want to ask each of you

[00:52] is,

[00:54] is Game Pass in the grand scheme of

[00:57] things for Xbox, I'm not saying for the

[00:59] industry, for Xbox as a business, cuz

[01:02] that's what all this is about this week,

[01:05] >> is Game Pass proving to be a mistake, or

[01:09] if we don't want to quite go that severe

[01:12] necessarily,

[01:15] is it is it sustainable in its current

[01:18] form? term whereby day one releases go

[01:23] into the service like it people are not

[01:25] buying games on Xbox we know this they

[01:28] don't even they won't even give out

[01:30] numbers anymore some third parties are

[01:32] even not releasing or very skeptically

[01:36] releasing games and they're not selling

[01:38] games on Xbox so Miranda you first here

[01:43] where do you how much of Xbox's current

[01:48] self-imposed predicament

[01:51] is a result of the Game Pass experiment

[01:54] not going as well as they'd hoped.

[01:56] >> First thing I'm going to say, I still

[01:58] like Game Pass. I think it's very

[02:00] >> from a consumer perspective. Yeah,

[02:02] perspective, don't get me wrong. So,

[02:04] yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it's like the

[02:05] consumer perspective is like game pass

[02:08] rules. Like it is so convenient for

[02:10] finding so many different games, trying

[02:12] smaller ones, cliff, as you're saying,

[02:14] like it's the indies that hold or like

[02:16] smaller experiences that hold a lot of

[02:17] this together in the meantime between

[02:19] development cycles. Uh, and I think Game

[02:22] Pass really lends itself to exposing

[02:24] yourself to new kinds of games, new

[02:26] developers without having to invest

[02:28] much. That being said, I do

[02:32] think

[02:34] Microsoft has put itself in a strange

[02:36] place with how it expects success. And I

[02:40] know they do have some metrics on like

[02:42] how much people play with Game Pass as

[02:45] far as like how much time have they

[02:46] spent within the game, like did they

[02:48] finish this game? Like there are ways to

[02:50] track that.

[02:52] And I think that is informing some of

[02:55] the changes they're looking at now. But

[02:58] I do think at the end of the day because

[03:00] they are so married to the subscriber

[03:03] bottom line as I was saying earlier when

[03:05] they make a massive mistake like raising

[03:07] the price too much to the point where

[03:08] everybody just cancels because it is too

[03:10] much especially if you have the higher

[03:11] tier people who are paying more per

[03:13] month cancelling in mass um you're kind

[03:16] of risking something fundamentally

[03:19] challenging like if you put all your

[03:21] eggs in one basket

[03:23] what are you doing and so I think that's

[03:25] maybe also why we started seeing the

[03:27] move away exclusives, right? So, it's

[03:29] like, okay, if we can sell these games

[03:31] on other platforms, that helps

[03:33] supplement Game Pass in some way if

[03:35] we're losing subscribers. So, going back

[03:38] to being exclusive, still having

[03:40] everything in there, except for Call of

[03:41] Duty because of course that that is

[03:43] another big thing that people buy.

[03:45] That's like one of the things that

[03:46] people buy every year and instead of

[03:48] just subscribing for a month, which is

[03:49] way cheaper than just buying the game,

[03:51] you know, you get the game plus

[03:52] everything else. So, I think they've put

[03:55] themselves in a strange place for

[03:58] financial success, especially when we

[03:59] know like the system in in the race

[04:02] against the other consoles, if you want

[04:04] to frame it that way, is just not

[04:05] selling the same way. Like the Xbox is

[04:08] just not selling like the PlayStation or

[04:10] now the Switch 2, but I think Switch 2

[04:12] is like in a different place, but that's

[04:13] new, right? Um, I think that comparison,

[04:17] which we know that's not necessarily

[04:19] what drives her sales, but I think is

[04:23] part of this puzzle piece as well or as

[04:25] a piece of this puzzle as well. Um, and

[04:29] it's that that hard line of well, I want

[04:34] these studios and Xbox to continue, but

[04:36] I also selfishly want game pass to

[04:38] continue as it is because it is so

[04:40] helpful for being able to play these

[04:42] games. I I think I've said it before too

[04:44] like if I had Game Pass as a kid in like

[04:47] insanity like incredible incredible

[04:49] exposure to all these games and that is

[04:52] something that I think Phil really built

[04:53] on and like really

[04:56] nailed with his team was that they

[04:57] wanted games to be something that people

[04:59] can get into as a hobby when it is

[05:01] getting more and more prohibitively

[05:02] expensive. I think, you know, of my

[05:04] childhood of how many games I had access

[05:07] to simply because of money, like how

[05:08] much pocket change I had to save just to

[05:11] get one game and how long that took and

[05:13] how picky you had to be. And the

[05:15] ecosystem of games access is changing so

[05:19] much as far as like freeto play and

[05:22] other experience-based games that Game

[05:25] Pass still likens to that free feeling

[05:28] in a way. That being said, they still

[05:31] make money. So like what you know I I

[05:34] think it is a challenge for them to

[05:36] solve and I don't know what the solution

[05:38] is like that that comes into a financial

[05:41] point where I'm like that is beyond me.

[05:43] I'm a writer, but um I like I can

[05:47] critically analyze that obviously this

[05:48] is a problem and but

[05:51] because of how volatile like a

[05:54] subscriber based

[05:57] organization like if you're running this

[05:59] massive massive division on subscribers

[06:02] that is like a really hard place to be

[06:04] if you falter. So yeah.

[06:07] >> Yeah. I think the the thing that I go

[06:10] back to is a couple of different things.

[06:12] So, like last night I downloaded Beat

[06:14] Down Survivors. Uh, shout out to my

[06:16] friend New Challenger out in the world.

[06:18] Um, and knew of that game was like, "Oh,

[06:22] I forgot it's on Game Pass. Let me go

[06:23] play it and and check it out and go and

[06:25] I had a blast with it." And then I wind

[06:26] up buying it, right? I use Game Pass as

[06:28] a try it before you buy it space, right?

[06:30] >> Alongside the day one layer of it that I

[06:32] think is really important, right? So I

[06:35] am a person who am looking at the

[06:37] service as a person who is thinking

[06:39] about you know even thinking about the

[06:42] kind of good stewardship part that you

[06:44] talked about a little bit earlier in in

[06:45] the show uh Miranda around like I know

[06:48] that there are there are games that

[06:50] wouldn't have actually been out in the

[06:52] world without Game Pass right

[06:53] >> they have been subsidized by the upfront

[06:56] money that you wind up getting and they

[06:57] wind up bridging the gap between getting

[06:59] your thing made or not getting your

[07:01] thing made right some of those people

[07:04] may not have ever gotten a a a the

[07:07] amount of sales that would have been

[07:09] able to recoup whatever that development

[07:11] cost was for them, right? Then you have

[07:13] the Call of Duties who, you know, are

[07:15] going to sell no matter what you do. And

[07:17] I'm sure that when you think back about

[07:19] like how much money they potentially

[07:21] didn't make by putting it in Game Pass,

[07:23] that might have not been the right

[07:24] direction for where that game winds up

[07:26] landing in that space. I always think of

[07:28] this thing as like one of the things

[07:31] that is missing in this era of gaming.

[07:33] At least this last genre, not genre,

[07:35] this last era of gaming, whatever this

[07:37] last um

[07:38] >> generation

[07:39] >> generation. Thank you. That's the word I

[07:40] was looking for. Was that we don't have

[07:42] a lot of portfolio curation anymore. And

[07:45] I think what game what game pass does is

[07:48] open up a space where you are able to

[07:50] see and play a variety of things that

[07:52] you might not have ever touched before.

[07:54] And it might again do that thing of

[07:56] being like, "Oh, I want to support these

[07:58] folks because they made something dope

[07:59] and I think this is really interesting."

[08:01] Does it wind up hurting the entire

[08:03] industry where we see now some of those

[08:06] folks who are in that mix be hurt in a

[08:09] in a way that they didn't necessarily

[08:10] foresee? Absolutely. But I think we have

[08:14] now, like you said, have nine years in.

[08:17] I think there's a space where if you are

[08:19] now looking at that conversation and you

[08:21] go to Xbox and say, "Hey, I want my game

[08:23] on your platform, you have enough people

[08:26] that you can talk to in the development

[08:28] uh uh, you know, community to be like,

[08:31] is this you've been a you've made a game

[08:33] that's similar to scope that that my

[08:34] game is in. How did you see that kind of

[08:36] work out for you?" And you can make a

[08:38] good decision there to be able to say,

[08:40] "Well, maybe this isn't for me and maybe

[08:42] I need to do the traditional route and

[08:44] go put it on, you know, multiple

[08:45] platforms, put it on Steam, put it in

[08:47] all these other places where you think

[08:48] might give you the most benefit for your

[08:51] potential growth on this kind of game."

[08:53] I think there's a lot of space that we

[08:55] don't know. And again, I I I will also

[08:57] raise my hand and be like, I don't know

[08:58] anything about how that thing works in

[09:00] the back end. You know, I don't know

[09:01] what it I haven't made a bisdev deal

[09:03] yet. You know what I mean? I haven't

[09:04] done that yet.

[09:05] >> So, I you know, I don't know. But I do

[09:07] think that like there are always going

[09:09] to be benefits. I think the thing that

[09:11] comes back to all of these conversations

[09:13] is that we're still talking about risk,

[09:16] right?

[09:16] >> Yeah.

[09:16] >> And we're still talking about making a

[09:18] bet. Phil Spencer made bets, Xbox made

[09:22] bets with Don Matrick made bets. Like

[09:24] everyone is making bets. The thing that

[09:26] we don't know is how many of those

[09:28] things are going to pay off, how many

[09:29] things are going to tank and then how

[09:31] many of those things are going to have

[09:32] to be readjusted for again a a moving

[09:34] target that is consistently changing

[09:37] that consistently changes based on the

[09:39] market. No one knew that we were going

[09:40] to be in a silicon and AI crisis now

[09:43] with with hardware. No one knew that we

[09:45] were going to have the COVID part of it

[09:46] that I talked about earlier. No one knew

[09:48] that Roblox and and Fortnite were going

[09:50] to become the biggest things on the

[09:52] planet and suck up so much of your time

[09:54] alongside social media and Tik Tok and

[09:55] all those other layers of stuff. No one

[09:57] knew that stuff. You know what I mean?

[09:59] So, we're all trying to get in where we

[10:01] fit in while also trying to figure out

[10:03] where things are going to be and

[10:04] forecasting as far as you can. But it's

[10:07] all a moving target and those things are

[10:09] going to the thing that is the most

[10:10] important is how do these companies

[10:12] adjust quickly,

[10:13] >> right? Can you make like they they made

[10:15] that change really fast when they saw,

[10:16] oh, we we're hemorrhaging a lot of

[10:18] subscribers here. We need to readjust

[10:20] that and figure out what that looks

[10:21] like. Now, in in in Asha's uh kind of

[10:24] new space, she's going to have to

[10:26] consistently think about how fast and

[10:28] nimble they can move to adjust to all of

[10:30] these market changes that are happening

[10:32] that are self-imposed, historical from

[10:34] the brand and going to be coming in from

[10:36] all the things that we're now seeing

[10:38] alongside tariffs, alongside weird

[10:40] things that are happening across the the

[10:42] geopolitical spectrum. All those things

[10:44] are going to be tied to the way that

[10:45] business works in the video game space

[10:48] moving forward. And you can't deny that.

[10:49] So that's going to be the space where we

[10:51] wind up seeing the most change. And I

[10:53] think now that they're being more

[10:55] transparent with some of these things

[10:57] and ripping the band-aid off, it doesn't

[10:59] help the developers who are going to be

[11:00] hurt, but it also gives people the space

[11:02] to understand what is actually kind of

[11:03] happening when these discussions wind up

[11:05] popping up.

[11:06] >> You I'm glad you mentioned curation

[11:08] because uh first and first of all, there

[11:11] are definitely there are absolutely

[11:13] there are plenty of game pass success

[11:15] stories. M I've talked to plenty of

[11:16] developers that plenty of them have put

[11:18] out press releases where like they've

[11:20] been huge on Game Pass, bigger than they

[11:23] would have been, you know, without

[11:24] without that sort of spotlight on them.

[11:27] So, I don't want to I don't want to sit

[11:29] here and make it seem like I'm saying

[11:31] that Game Pass is this like complete

[11:32] total failure.

[11:34] >> Game Pass is the devil. No, I'm just

[11:35] playing

[11:35] >> in any in any sense. But when you I'm so

[11:39] glad you brought up curation because

[11:42] th I will if you're playing the unlock

[11:44] drinking game at home, buckle up. Uh

[11:48] this is again like they had a thing that

[11:52] they could still bring back

[11:55] >> called Xbox Live Arcade.

[11:58] >> Oh man.

[11:59] >> To your to your point K when you said

[12:01] that you use Game Pass to try stuff out.

[12:05] >> Yeah. live arcade games. Part of the

[12:08] mandate of the program was that every

[12:10] live arcade game had a free playable

[12:14] demo right right at launch. Like it was

[12:16] part of your certification and

[12:18] submission process

[12:20] >> as part of getting your game out on the

[12:22] Xbox Live Arcade platform.

[12:24] There is the indie select thing now that

[12:26] I get press releases from the PR team

[12:29] every now and again about,

[12:31] >> but I'm telling you, it's just I think

[12:33] Live Arcade

[12:35] could still be useful in 2026 and beyond

[12:39] given prominent placement. Give it its

[12:41] own tab on the dashboard like Game Pass

[12:45] has its own tab and you curate that with

[12:49] editorially minded voices within

[12:52] Microsoft, you know, as it was back in

[12:55] the day where when you know you are

[12:57] getting a cool selection of like four or

[13:00] five games in a given week of like hey

[13:03] here's our it's it's live arcade

[13:05] Wednesday here's here's what's out you

[13:07] know here's what we've got for you this

[13:08] week so I just wanted to throw that out

[13:10] there um but yeah like I I put this out

[13:15] on my social on Twitter the other day

[13:19] and I I gotta say I got a ton of really

[13:21] great thoughtprovoking Excellent

[13:24] responses

[13:26] cuz and the thought was is

[13:30] and I I've started to bring this up

[13:32] earlier and it's is Game Pass. Miranda,

[13:36] you you started to go down this road as

[13:37] well. I don't know if Game Pass in its

[13:40] current form

[13:42] is compatible

[13:44] with

[13:46] the idea of exclusives coming back to

[13:48] Xbox. And again, I'm not for anybody

[13:51] listening, I'm not trying to say that I

[13:53] don't want exclusives back on Xbox. Uh

[13:56] cuz it would be cool to have some

[13:57] special stuff for the platform again.

[13:59] But I just don't know if wi with all of

[14:02] these margin challenges that Xbox is

[14:05] having, their inability to sell games,

[14:07] their inability to sell hardware,

[14:11] can you have day one AAA games on your

[14:16] your streaming service, your

[14:17] subscription service, while also having

[14:20] exclusives because I'm just not sure

[14:23] that you can make up you can make the

[14:25] month the revenue on that work. Like I

[14:27] will say for as a pretty uninformed

[14:32] perspective cuz I don't you know I don't

[14:34] know I don't know exactly how much Gears

[14:36] of War Eday costs to make. I know it's

[14:39] pretty damn expensive cuz they've been

[14:40] working on it for a long time. It's a

[14:43] AAA production, but I I do have concern

[14:47] about

[14:49] the future viability of Gears

[14:52] if the like what's the I guess what's

[14:55] the metric of success for Gears of War

[14:57] Eday when it clearly costs it's going to

[15:00] end up costing them a lot of money to

[15:01] have made by the time this thing comes

[15:03] out, especially when you factor in

[15:05] marketing and all that stuff when the

[15:07] only place to play it is on the distant

[15:11] third place console. console platform

[15:14] and on the thankfully growing PC

[15:17] platform

[15:18] >> like so that's

[15:20] and you've got Game Pass. Like are are

[15:22] people going to sign up for to for Game

[15:25] Pass to play Gears of War eay? They

[15:28] might. But are they going to stick

[15:29] around for

[15:32] three, four, five months or at least at

[15:34] least the equivalent price of what it

[15:36] would be to purchase the game? Maybe

[15:38] not. they might just subscribe for a

[15:40] month, maybe two, and then be like, "All

[15:43] right, I played my gears, and there's

[15:45] nothing else here that I super care

[15:46] about right now. I'm out." So, that's

[15:49] that's where I'm I don't know the

[15:52] answer, but I like we do know Asha said

[15:54] in the very beginning when she first

[15:56] started that Game Pass would continue to

[16:00] evolve and continue to change. And I

[16:03] think they're probably trying to figure

[16:04] that out right now because I just don't

[16:07] see how economically, again, I'm on the

[16:10] outside. I don't know their their

[16:12] numbers, but it to my layman brain and

[16:15] eyes, I just don't see a way for Xbox

[16:20] console exclusives

[16:22] to coexist with Game Pass having Day One

[16:26] AAA new first party releases and for

[16:28] that to be any more economically viable

[16:31] than the than the mess that they

[16:33] currently find themselves in. M

[16:36] >> it feels like they have to reckon with

[16:38] these two paths that they have that like

[16:40] they've went one way, right? With Game

[16:42] Pass multiplatform kind of becoming more

[16:45] of a

[16:48] place to publish games rather than like

[16:51] an exclusive console ecos system and

[16:54] like we have this as an option if you

[16:56] want it. And that's kind of the

[16:57] direction they were moving in and now

[16:58] they're like wait this isn't popular

[17:00] enough like we're losing like fan base

[17:02] in some way. like let's completely

[17:04] change direction which is what Asha is

[17:05] doing but then that kind of is at odds

[17:08] with what they were building for the

[17:09] past few years right and so it's like

[17:12] but how do you like reckon those two

[17:14] ideas and I think the unfortunate thing

[17:17] I think will lead us into our next topic

[17:18] a bit too is shutdowns that is the that

[17:21] that is the reckoning is the reckoning

[17:23] is well this is it working out in the

[17:26] way we wanted financially or how we can

[17:30] like like realistically manage what we

[17:32] want to do. So, we're going to go

[17:34] instead be back in competitive space

[17:36] with console, like the console market,

[17:38] like we do actually want that and PC

[17:41] specifically, and uh refocus how we're

[17:43] doing things instead of being a bigger,

[17:45] wider kind of almost like publisher

[17:49] aligned thing with with with options for

[17:52] hardware and accessories. Mhm.

[17:55] >> Yeah. I think uh for me I think about my

[17:58] usage of game pass in this way and I

[18:00] think if you take day one out that

[18:03] becomes a much less exciting prospect

[18:06] for me.

[18:07] >> Day one is the reason why I have game

[18:09] pass currently as at this point. It's

[18:11] the reason I want it. Um I think the

[18:14] potential fix for them could be and this

[18:17] is probably not right because I think

[18:19] about you know the price of a game is 70

[18:22] bucks. We know that AAA games and and

[18:24] kind of your marquee games are going to

[18:25] be in that space. You know, I think

[18:27] about how much money I've spent on Game

[18:29] Pass leading up to when a release is

[18:31] happening. And I've already paid for G

[18:33] for Gears of Before Eay. If you think

[18:35] about what I've paid over the monthly

[18:37] time that a game subscription is gone,

[18:39] I've paid for eBay already in that way.

[18:41] But I do think the people who are coming

[18:43] in and saying, "I'm going to do this for

[18:45] a shorter amount of time or I'm going to

[18:47] buy that subscription, play through it

[18:49] really fast, and then and then do that

[18:51] thing." That is a worry for a lot of

[18:53] folks in that space. I think that

[18:54] definitely is a a part of that

[18:56] conversation in a way that that doesn't

[18:58] necessarily help the bottom line for

[19:01] what you want it to be. And that's the

[19:02] conundrum that they're always going to

[19:04] wind up being in unless they either

[19:06] remove day one stuff and give you

[19:08] either, you know, if you are subscribed

[19:10] to that thing and you're not uh not

[19:13] having those day one experiences. Maybe

[19:15] potentially because you're a subscriber,

[19:17] you offer them a discount

[19:19] >> and say, "Hey, you don't have to spend

[19:21] 70 bucks on this game because you're a

[19:22] subscriber." Maybe we charge you,

[19:25] >> right? We charge you 50 for it as

[19:26] opposed to the full 70, right? like

[19:28] maybe there's a balance there where you

[19:31] can kind of figure out some good

[19:32] language there which then also again

[19:34] keeps your your players a little bit

[19:37] happier. You then don't have to think

[19:39] about potentially what the the oh this

[19:41] game is going to go to uh you know Sony

[19:43] in this way even though it probably

[19:45] should because you still need the money.

[19:47] Um so it's it's really about just like

[19:49] how do you balance out the value versus

[19:51] what perceived value actual value and

[19:53] what do you think is going to be there

[19:55] for you when you subscribe to the thing.

[19:57] Um, but who knows? Like again, I don't

[19:59] know where they're going to go from a

[20:01] pricing perspective or a space that's

[20:02] going to keep people happy when all of

[20:05] this bad uh, you know, these bad vibes

[20:07] keep coming out, right? It's hard to

[20:09] sell the thing that you want people to

[20:10] to enjoy and be excited about while also

[20:12] saying, "Hey, the person who just made

[20:14] that thing is not even going to be here

[20:15] next year or in the next four months."

[20:17] Right? That makes that much harder to be

[20:18] able to say out loud.

[20:21] So, as Miranda alluded, um yeah, all all

[20:24] of these all of this grim financial

[20:27] outlook and a resetting of the business,

[20:30] which is code for layoffs, uh that

[20:33] appears to be happening. None of this is

[20:36] official yet as of this recording. That

[20:39] could change by the time you hear this,

[20:42] but uh what we are staring down right

[20:44] now are reports of

[20:49] Compulsion Games getting shut down,

[20:53] Ninja Theory

[20:55] getting shut down, and potentially

[20:59] Double Fine getting shut down. Um there

[21:03] could be more, there could be others. Uh

[21:07] these studios, I guess. Let me just let

[21:09] me go through go through the news as it

[21:12] was here. Um, so Compulsion is seemingly

[21:15] the closest one to to actually confirmed

[21:19] if it again maybe it is by the time you

[21:21] hear this, but

[21:23] uh they were founded in '09 by a former

[21:25] Arcane developer named Gon Provost, who

[21:28] I've met, super nice guy. Uh, they made

[21:31] contrast in 2013, which was really good.

[21:35] We Happy Few, which a lot of people

[21:38] liked a lot. I thought it was

[21:39] >> it was an awesome it had so much

[21:41] potential. It didn't quite get there for

[21:43] me, but uh there was a lot of a lot in

[21:45] there. That was 2018.

[21:47] >> Gearbox published that back when Gearbox

[21:49] was

[21:50] >> sort of doing their little

[21:51] experimentation as a publisher.

[21:53] >> Then Microsoft bought them. Uh and when

[21:55] we finally got South of Midnight last

[21:58] year, which got excellent reviews, and I

[22:01] played a bit of it, that excellent game.

[22:03] had had a great time with it.

[22:05] >> Award-winning.

[22:06] >> Yes, multiple awards. Absolutely. It won

[22:09] some awards. So, uh this is Kotaku is

[22:12] reporting that the compulsion layoffs

[22:14] may total more than 90 staff. Uh just

[22:18] months after the studio advertised jobs

[22:20] for a new IP. Now, Kotaku said one

[22:24] source indicated Compulsion leadership

[22:26] is in negotiations with Microsoft over

[22:29] the studio's fate.

[22:32] And uh that's kind of the same situation

[22:35] with Ninja Theory and Double Fine who

[22:38] are reportedly

[22:41] negotiating with Microsoft to

[22:43] potentially go independent. Now that has

[22:46] there are all sorts of like big money

[22:49] questions that have to get answered is

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