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[02:15] uh yeah so let's talk about what's going

[02:19] on first the typical format here is

[02:20] we're going to talk business we're

[02:22] bankrupt

[02:24] all right so if you want to be like us

[02:27] yeah perfect no last month I will be the

[02:31] uh

[02:32] uh first one to admit last month's

[02:35] videos were

[02:36] pretty much a snoozer and a lot of that

[02:39] is on our on our own end there's only

[02:41] two of us plus chin face or Chris and

[02:45] typically when we do big projects our

[02:48] regular car videos because we have to

[02:49] feed the YouTube Beast become less

[02:52] exciting and as you are going to see

[02:55] this month there are quite a few big

[02:57] projects starting with tomorrow

[03:00] um tomorrow has the Dark Horse being

[03:03] released it comes out at 6 00 a.m

[03:06] central time which is a ridiculous

[03:09] embargo lift we'll be releasing at the

[03:11] normal time let's just do it at eight

[03:13] seven thirty is when we normally release

[03:15] right okay if you want to get up at 7

[03:16] 30. I will get up at 7 30 and I will sit

[03:19] there for the premiere and answer all

[03:20] your questions

[03:21] but it's a 40 minute video approximately

[03:24] right just about

[03:26] temper your expectations Jack went in

[03:29] all in on this so you know it's going to

[03:31] be a lot of talk about gold bars and

[03:34] I mean this one was a hard one you know

[03:37] typically I'll be the first one to admit

[03:39] that

[03:40] uh when we use these docufilms or do

[03:42] these docu document yourself films it's

[03:45] um you know really exciting RN to get

[03:47] the access and uh Ford was Ford went all

[03:50] out as far as getting us access to

[03:52] Engineers we went out to their Studio we

[03:55] got the car early they shipped it to us

[03:57] exclusively right yeah we drive it out

[03:59] at Autobahn but as the flip side of that

[04:02] because we have access to all these

[04:04] people uh are those raw onions on the

[04:07] plate mark

[04:10] yeah I just haven't plate of raw onions

[04:12] that way when I have extensive body odor

[04:15] and the onions really bring out the

[04:18] smell of this room

[04:19] um but anyway because we had access all

[04:20] these people For Better or For Worse the

[04:22] first like 20 minutes of the video you

[04:23] see this for like two seconds you're

[04:25] gonna hear from the chief engineer you

[04:27] can hear from basically the lead product

[04:29] planner the interior and exterior

[04:31] designer is one of the leads of vehicle

[04:33] Dynamics and we're going to walk you

[04:34] through the amount of development that

[04:37] went in the s650 and it's well it is

[04:40] largely re-skinned they did change quite

[04:43] a bit about the car so hopefully you it

[04:46] is what it is yeah you know like this is

[04:48] a video where here's the car this is why

[04:51] they did what they did and that's it you

[04:54] make your own choice I mean uh so

[04:58] tomorrow

[04:59] have fun learning about Tang Town yeah

[05:01] but uh we have that going out this month

[05:04] uh we are traveling for a lucid project

[05:07] which I'm uh you know many of you guys

[05:10] have been asking for a long time Mark's

[05:12] going to start editing the cx90 this

[05:14] week that is another video where uh it

[05:18] is much longer and bigger than we had

[05:20] originally planned I spent like seven

[05:23] hours alone in San Francisco because

[05:25] Mark was too busy working out

[05:28] um where I interviewed everyone

[05:30] associated with a car so you can hear

[05:32] from Dave Coleman the Japanese gentleman

[05:34] who did the exterior and interior design

[05:36] the chief engineer Chief engineer's dog

[05:39] uh infotainment person drive train

[05:42] people you can hear from everybody in

[05:43] this really that's how all the stuff I

[05:45] have that yeah you're gonna have a good

[05:46] time Mark I told you it's like seven

[05:47] hours of interviews that's why you

[05:49] hadn't started it

[05:51] um but you know hey you wanted an

[05:53] in-depth cx90 video no I don't think

[05:56] they did somebody does

[05:58] but yeah it's um and I think our

[06:00] conclusions about the car they're not

[06:02] gonna really match up to what everybody

[06:03] else's is I mean I know that a lot of

[06:05] people said that that there's most are

[06:08] saying it's really great

[06:10] it's not a perfect car and I think

[06:13] either both vehicles they sent us were

[06:17] not perfect cars or most people

[06:21] don't pay attention to some of the

[06:23] actual driving Dynamics associated with

[06:25] vehicles like the cx-90

[06:28] um but regardless you got to hear from

[06:30] everybody Associates I think that's

[06:31] what's going to be interesting about

[06:33] that video like a lot of these it

[06:34] becomes

[06:35] at least from our perspective or my

[06:37] perspective sorry I don't mean to speak

[06:39] for you but after a while of getting in

[06:41] and out of all these cars and I know the

[06:43] cx-90 is special because you created a

[06:46] brand new rear-wheel drive platform so

[06:48] it's it's a big deal for Mazda but the

[06:50] interesting part is after you get in and

[06:52] out of all these cars the only thing you

[06:54] could say is basically the same thing

[06:55] over and over again they're all pretty

[06:57] decent so it's more interesting to me to

[06:59] find out from the people that worked on

[07:01] them why they did what they did and have

[07:03] the opportunity to be like why did you

[07:04] do this and sometimes the brands are

[07:07] like we can't tell you that and or they

[07:09] can but they make you cut it out or

[07:12] they're really honest and I think the

[07:13] Mazda team

[07:15] although I wasn't there they're one of

[07:17] the more honest Brands so you're gonna

[07:18] get to hear the real story about what

[07:20] they what what they went through they're

[07:21] on us to a fault about their own

[07:23] products

[07:24] you know they're a brand that

[07:28] I think what would allow them to be more

[07:30] successful in the space they exist in is

[07:33] to compromise some other brand values

[07:35] you'll hear from Dave talking about

[07:37] suspension tuning and for the cx90 they

[07:40] prioritize sports car like suspension

[07:43] Dynamics which obviously isn't possible

[07:45] in a three-row SUV but it was all about

[07:48] linearity of inputs

[07:50] you know instead of having Drive modes

[07:52] they wanted one mode that felt natural

[07:54] versus trying to make a car be as

[07:55] isolated as possible which

[07:58] um you know is what people want in that

[08:01] segment most of the time they want

[08:02] something that handles all right and

[08:04] doesn't beat you up which Mazda is

[08:06] willing to compromise nvh for better

[08:08] handling in an SUV which anyway you know

[08:11] I don't want to spoil the entire video

[08:12] but you at least you got to hear from

[08:14] everyone and you know having a have an

[08:16] honest Heart to Heart yeah with who's a

[08:18] you know a part of that product

[08:20] uh what else do we have coming out this

[08:22] month that was kind of that was my point

[08:25] I know you kind of my side of it is

[08:28] it's cool to actually get the story from

[08:30] why they did it so that that's what's

[08:32] important to me is oh now that we do

[08:34] this and we're at this place we can get

[08:37] an answer as to AK why did you do this

[08:39] and what's the outcome and is it

[08:41] everything that you hoped for and

[08:42] usually it's not and that's more honest

[08:46] to me than you know when we do these

[08:49] videos and you're wondering what the

[08:50] hell happened you don't understand the

[08:52] back end it gets whitewashed with uh

[08:55] marketing nonsense and you don't know

[08:57] like really what the car is anymore but

[08:59] a lot of these brands are really

[09:00] invested in trying to tell you and then

[09:02] the people that work on them like hey I

[09:04] wanted to do this but this is what we

[09:05] got done here so it's it's a neat that

[09:07] way if you like cars yeah and to be

[09:08] clear I saw one of the the comments is

[09:10] this CX-9 or cx90 it is CX 90 not CX-9

[09:15] and uh one of the reasons again with the

[09:18] inline six which is interesting about

[09:20] that car

[09:21] um the reason they did it was from a

[09:24] packaging perspective not a like balance

[09:28] of the the I6 engine that's something

[09:30] that I don't think I think a lot of

[09:31] people are talking about the reason I

[09:33] want to the I6 is so they could fit

[09:36] double wishbones in the front of the

[09:37] vehicle because the actual like

[09:38] footprint of a V6 is so much larger that

[09:42] the I6 gave them the space to put the

[09:44] double wishbones double wishbones again

[09:45] in a forty thousand dollar SUV the only

[09:48] other one I can think of I know you're

[09:49] gonna have PTSD because I bring up a

[09:51] stalantis product is the Grand Cherokee

[09:53] but everything else including the MDX

[09:55] and all the Toyota and Korean piles are

[09:58] strut

[10:00] so all right so we've cx90 we have dark

[10:02] horse tomorrow we have GT4 RS which

[10:05] we'll try to release this month which

[10:06] will just be sort of a fun fun like

[10:08] thank you film for sitting through

[10:09] everything else this month so it's a car

[10:11] selfishly you and I are both really

[10:12] looking forward to driving to be honest

[10:15] and then we have your CTR video we're

[10:18] going to do uh like a full Deep dive on

[10:20] the CTR on the lift we have an X7 video

[10:22] coming out we have a CRV piece coming

[10:25] we're shooting the Lucid we're shooting

[10:28] either this month or next we're doing

[10:30] e-ray and then uh we're doing a Camaro

[10:33] send-off film which I'm really looking

[10:35] forward to doing both with an SS and

[10:37] potentially actually with an ss1 only

[10:39] for sure either from a viewer uh jibron

[10:42] and Muhammad have a zl11le they're going

[10:45] to throw us the keys too and you'll hear

[10:46] from some of the original engineers and

[10:48] the engineers set all the Nurburgring

[10:50] times and your favorite boy Aaron link

[10:53] but yeah boy we'll have some fun videos

[10:56] in the next couple couple months and

[10:58] weeks for to keep you guys sort of

[11:01] um

[11:03] occupied

[11:05] um anything else you want to talk about

[11:06] before we start getting into questions

[11:07] mark and all this other fun stuff

[11:10] and yes we've driven the new Mustang uh

[11:12] if you haven't seen video comes out

[11:15] Monday so I'd start tomorrow not Monday

[11:17] today's Monday comes out tomorrow at 7

[11:20] 30 a.m Central

[11:22] yep anything any other projects or

[11:26] updates or anything like that I I wish

[11:28] there was something more exciting to say

[11:30] other than that other than the NSX video

[11:32] is oh yes update them on the NSX video

[11:36] uh I don't know where we left off with

[11:38] the last video but the NSX video is

[11:40] completely shot like completely shot on

[11:43] video

[11:44] um that's the one we went to Japan for

[11:45] to interview all the engineers that

[11:47] worked on it that were in retirement so

[11:50] uh we have yuihara on on camera he's

[11:53] getting up there in age now and so he

[11:56] talked about it we spoke with

[12:00] yeah all the guys that worked on the

[12:02] chassis on the drivetrain part of it uh

[12:06] so there was a lot and

[12:09] this is what's weird about doing some of

[12:11] these videos like I I knew that when we

[12:12] did the NSX video I'm like okay I'm not

[12:14] doing this unless we have like the full

[12:16] picture and it's a double-edged sword

[12:18] because now after the fact

[12:21] um

[12:22] you have the full picture and it's not

[12:24] what I originally intended when I shot

[12:26] this so now I have all of this that I

[12:28] wasn't expecting and I have to have it

[12:31] translated out like really translated

[12:33] out word for word which is not what we

[12:35] did when we're there and we have more

[12:37] resources that we found out the day we

[12:41] were there and this whole video was

[12:43] filmed around not having those resources

[12:45] now that we do the video is like

[12:47] completely not

[12:48] cohesive so it's one of those like I

[12:51] wanted to do it I wanted to do it right

[12:53] I wanted to have all the information so

[12:55] this was something that I didn't have to

[12:57] do over again and nobody else would

[13:00] probably likely do something like this

[13:01] but the sad part is now it's 10 times

[13:04] more complicated and it's not something

[13:06] that I can get done overnight it's

[13:08] literally a video that I have to stop

[13:09] everything in my life for probably a

[13:12] month to get done and it's impossible to

[13:14] do in this scenario what is that and

[13:17] this is sort of inside baseball so the

[13:19] way this works for the three people who

[13:21] are on this live stream and paying

[13:23] attention to this it is

[13:26] I film all the it's called chicken chip

[13:29] projects like the regular cars you see

[13:31] and then I help film The Big projects

[13:32] and then I deal with the oems the

[13:34] engineers and the business side Mark

[13:36] deals with the creative and the editing

[13:38] and there's just the two of us and then

[13:40] when we do big shoots we have a couple

[13:41] people that help us out on track and a

[13:43] lot of their fun stuff

[13:45] for us to put videos out we have to be

[13:47] ahead and whenever we do a big project

[13:49] what I mean by be ahead is the videos

[13:51] have to be edited and completed and in

[13:53] queue for them to go out

[13:55] um

[13:56] whenever we do a really big project like

[13:59] the NSX like the Mustang Dark Horse like

[14:03] any of these big comparison tests you

[14:04] love everything stops Mark no longer

[14:07] edits tried you know tries to get ahead

[14:10] I shoot with him and I'm on camera with

[14:13] him and you know basically all we are is

[14:15] consumed by said project either it's a

[14:17] week of shooting

[14:18] or three days of shooting and then

[14:21] typically a week or two of Mark editing

[14:22] and that's all he's focused on and we

[14:24] rely on the Queue of backlogged videos

[14:26] to be released and that's I mean that's

[14:29] a fair breakdown so NSX you know you'd

[14:32] have I obviously I want it out by the

[14:34] end of the summer which I don't know how

[14:36] possible that is and I know there's the

[14:38] expectation uh wadasan who's the head of

[14:41] all of Honda PR I mean the head guy he's

[14:45] everybody's boss basically uh nice nice

[14:49] guy genuinely I do mean that he's great

[14:51] human being but you know For Better or

[14:54] For Worse he's basically you know told

[14:56] us you're the only people who are going

[14:57] to get this great opportunity to do this

[14:59] don't [ __ ] it up which I mean I don't

[15:01] take that lightly and I know you don't

[15:03] either I mean it's gonna get done I know

[15:05] I mean it's going to get done it's just

[15:07] you know it's it's not even about I

[15:09] think the part of it is it's not even

[15:12] about being right I'm gonna I'm gonna

[15:14] grab this really quick these two things

[15:16] as an example but it's it's not about

[15:19] being perfect either because I'm not

[15:21] that guy where it's like oh it's got to

[15:22] be perfect because nothing's perfect

[15:23] right you just got to get it somewhat

[15:25] close to being right and

[15:28] um that's the hard part with this stuff

[15:31] is you know like if this is all I did

[15:34] was one video it'd be different yeah but

[15:37] we need two videos a week sometimes

[15:40] three plus everything else to make sure

[15:41] this business is

[15:43] still afloat on top of anything else we

[15:46] do yeah but yeah this is when we came

[15:48] back from Japan with uh books about the

[15:52] S2000 development which also have NSX

[15:54] stuff in it which are only in Japanese

[15:56] and written by the chief engineer this

[15:58] book was written by

[16:00] you a harasson yeah he wrote this book

[16:03] it's all in Japanese and nobody told us

[16:06] nobody told us about this we didn't know

[16:08] it existed it's every detail from the

[16:11] engineers including not just him

[16:13] everybody that worked on this car didn't

[16:15] know it existed and we shot everything

[16:18] before we knew that existed and nobody

[16:19] told us and then we had these books uh

[16:22] and this is

[16:24] from Lionel he is he wrote the history

[16:27] of like the Thai bars and this is

[16:30] translated in English but it's also in

[16:31] French uh so he had to do this this is

[16:34] with the help of the engineers so we

[16:36] came back

[16:37] with an absolute shitload of information

[16:39] plus eight hours of interviews with

[16:42] people who only speak Japanese right

[16:44] right yeah and there's that's that's the

[16:46] huge problem is I don't speak Japanese

[16:48] you don't there's no I mean you could

[16:51] you know there's only so much you can do

[16:52] with translation so now we have to have

[16:54] multiple translators working on some of

[16:55] this it's just it's a project that I I'm

[16:59] not saying this in the wrong way I

[17:00] wanted to do it it's a personal project

[17:01] it really is I mean there's no other way

[17:03] there's you get to meet your car your

[17:05] own for me it's like connecting deeper

[17:07] with my dad he owned a 91 or 92. NSX

[17:09] yeah so it was it was about that project

[17:11] closing the loop like when I was younger

[17:13] as a younger guy in my 20s

[17:17] um you know I had a Civic like a shitty

[17:19] Civic EX and my dream was like oh maybe

[17:21] one day I'll have a nice two thousand

[17:23] and maybe one Dale of an NSX and I never

[17:25] really was a big fan of that SX when I

[17:27] was a kid it wasn't like I dreamed of it

[17:28] but now I think it's cool as an adult

[17:30] and I'd love to have one and it's just

[17:31] it's too much money for what it is but

[17:33] that doesn't mean that I don't

[17:34] appreciate what it did for the car

[17:36] industry so it was kind of like I wanted

[17:39] to make this video because 20 year old

[17:41] mark would be like oh this would be so

[17:43] cool if I ever got a chance to do it and

[17:45] now I'm getting to do it and then the

[17:47] Practical side is I'm not getting paid

[17:49] to do it so this is the level of video

[17:52] that this is going to be is something

[17:53] that you're probably you probably should

[17:55] be getting paid like hundreds of

[17:56] thousands of dollars to make it's like a

[17:57] full-blown documentary and I don't have

[17:59] the time to dedicate to figure those

[18:02] books are just a piece of what we've

[18:04] learned about this car that I want to

[18:08] share that information that we learned

[18:10] and it's really hard to consolidate you

[18:13] know you could probably make like a five

[18:15] episode video about this I mean that's

[18:16] how crazy it is you know the so you know

[18:20] that's the the back end part of this is

[18:22] that you and I

[18:25] to be honest right you know that there

[18:27] was an easier way to have done this

[18:28] video and it was not to do it right it

[18:30] would not be you hear from any of the

[18:32] engineers and you go on a very surface

[18:34] level approach and not fully understand

[18:36] the car and you know basically talk out

[18:38] of her ass right yeah you know the you

[18:40] know the uehara song who I'm going to

[18:43] continually scrub how to pronounce his

[18:44] name and is an older gentleman and God

[18:46] knows you know God God willing but God

[18:49] knows how much longer he's going to be

[18:50] around right so it's sort of the last

[18:52] chance to do these guys Justice because

[18:54] basically if any Honda you liked from

[18:56] the golden era in some way he was

[18:58] responsible for right yeah so yeah that

[19:00] generation's gone and I think that was

[19:02] the interesting part that I wanted to do

[19:03] and you'll see it if you haven't seen a

[19:05] Lamborghini video uh it's even if you

[19:08] don't like Lamborghini get a chance to

[19:10] watch that and you'll see the CTO that

[19:12] was on camera and there's a lot of

[19:13] footage that we cut out from his

[19:15] interview because it was on zoom and you

[19:17] know it's a blessing and a curse but

[19:18] just getting to talk to him the stuff

[19:20] that wasn't on camera is you start to

[19:22] realize these guys that have been around

[19:24] the block that's saw all these cool cars

[19:26] through the generations now we're all at

[19:28] this dead end like we know that either

[19:30] we're retiring and in the case of the

[19:32] Japanese they're like they don't care

[19:34] like we're like what would you like to

[19:36] pass along to the Future Engineers are

[19:38] like doing a good job yeah do a good job

[19:41] or good luck you know they don't even

[19:42] they don't even have advice they're just

[19:44] like I did my job what the cars that are

[19:47] coming out now are completely different

[19:49] golf sounds pretty good right now yeah

[19:50] no pretty much pretty much yeah so like

[19:53] most of these Engineers that are aging

[19:54] out they're like it's a totally

[19:56] different generation they're totally

[19:57] different cars they're not even you

[19:58] can't even transfer the knowledge from

[20:01] the old cars to the EVS to the hybrids

[20:03] and all that they're totally in a new

[20:05] realm and they haven't figured out how

[20:07] to make them fun how to make them like

[20:09] old cars so every single engineer we

[20:12] talk to is like everybody's trying to

[20:14] figure this out everybody's trying to

[20:16] figure out the magic formula to make a

[20:19] new car feel old and have the engagement

[20:21] of the old car while still accepting the

[20:24] fact that internal combine question pure

[20:26] internal combustion is dead it's like on

[20:28] the last straw unless something

[20:30] magically changes and aliens are here

[20:32] maybe they'll give us the secret to

[20:34] giving us a high revving V10 for cheap

[20:36] but you know that that's gone so now

[20:39] what do we do and every single EV we

[20:40] drive every single one has the same EV

[20:43] problem they don't feel like there's a

[20:47] there's no tangible connection to the

[20:49] car because everything's digital now so

[20:51] in all these former Engineers that

[20:53] worked on these high level cars are like

[20:54] yeah well you know we got a lot of

[20:56] learning do we have hope

[20:58] but it's gonna be different and that's

[21:01] basically the whole Acura team told us

[21:04] they're trying and everybody's trying to

[21:07] be the first one to do it right and I

[21:08] think the closest thing we're seeing

[21:10] right now is maybe the new

[21:12] um

[21:12] ionic 5n

[21:14] yeah or potentially the sapphire which

[21:16] we haven't driven yet yeah but that's

[21:17] 200 yeah

[21:19] yeah I mean I don't know about the

[21:22] sapphire it could be but like at least

[21:24] with the ionic 5n you have fake shifting

[21:27] you have fake noise like engine

[21:29] synthesis and like weird stuff that it's

[21:31] doing electronically to try and man yeah

[21:34] that's true and you got Ant-Man he's

[21:36] coming back to be a corner rascal

[21:39] um these are very interesting things for

[21:41] me that's what keeps me going is how do

[21:42] I learn and how do I share that

[21:44] experience like all those books how do I

[21:47] distill that down and take people along

[21:50] for the journey while I'm still capable

[21:53] of doing this and how do I make it work

[21:55] where people are going to watch it most

[21:58] importantly watch it and where I'm not

[22:00] broke and that that becomes the very

[22:02] difficult part and the lambo is a good

[22:04] example yeah we lost a ton of money

[22:05] doing that cool car amazing car labor

[22:08] hours are 87 hours like it took us 87

[22:11] hours and that's to and from the track

[22:13] fuel that's all the technical stuff

[22:16] that's uh labor and you know you look at

[22:20] the viewership on it oh it's abysmal

[22:22] abysmal yeah I mean it's to be fair old

[22:25] car it's ancient nobody cares about a

[22:27] car you can't afford it's a you know 400

[22:29] well ours was like 400 000 I get that

[22:31] part of it and we relate and we're late

[22:33] to it really late so this is a problem

[22:36] with what we're doing right like you can

[22:39] spend this time to do some of these

[22:41] projects if you're not first to do it

[22:44] huge problem so I never cared about

[22:47] being first but when you all that

[22:49] matters to me currently yeah when you

[22:50] look at the side effect of not being

[22:53] first to the table with a good quality

[22:55] video you are immediately losing

[22:59] yourself yeah it's good and it's not

[23:01] that the viewers aren't particularly

[23:02] interested and I know a lot of the

[23:03] viewers love this stuff and I've had

[23:05] some of the best comments over the past

[23:06] like six months from people and some

[23:09] some not so nice ones too but mostly

[23:11] it's positive and some guy came up to me

[23:13] while I was eating the other day I

[23:14] didn't tell you this he came up to me in

[23:17] a restaurant and it was the most sincere

[23:22] like

[23:23] it was no it wasn't like yeah you know

[23:26] that or any of that it wasn't like uh oh

[23:28] bro you're so cool no he he was

[23:31] acknowledging that I wasn't cool but he

[23:32] was just saying that

[23:34] essentially please

[23:37] don't give up on doing what you're doing

[23:40] because the the effort isn't is

[23:43] appreciated essentially I'm just gonna

[23:45] did he have a Scrooge McDuck pool of

[23:46] money he didn't have a gold bar either

[23:49] at my head no so in in just you could

[23:52] see it in his eyes it wasn't just like

[23:54] pandering he actually meant it and those

[23:57] are small things like the patreon stuff

[24:00] that helps a lot obviously take your

[24:02] mind off some of it I know people care

[24:04] and they want this and I know that I'm

[24:06] doing it because I was on the other side

[24:09] of constantly wanting content where I

[24:11] could learn something from I wanted this

[24:14] when it wasn't there so I'm like how do

[24:16] I make this for that person that I was

[24:19] and how do I share it and it's a lot

[24:21] easier to say it than it is to do it and

[24:24] I keep saying this there's a reason why

[24:26] it doesn't particularly exist in Mass

[24:28] amounts and that's because

[24:31] I don't want to say that it doesn't work

[24:33] but there's not there's a very small

[24:36] group of people that appreciate it so

[24:38] you have to figure out how to to mold

[24:41] this to make it financially viable so

[24:42] you can be happy in life you're not

[24:45] broke you're still meeting the

[24:47] expectations of the people yourself and

[24:50] of course this is not yes I would not do

[24:53] this if every single video was a drag

[24:54] race and you didn't get to hear from the

[24:56] engineers that are playing with super

[24:57] inflammatory right um one of the

[24:59] questions that keeps coming up before we

[25:01] talk about the Camaros and answer all

[25:03] the patreon questions and all your paid

[25:04] questions which I promise we'll

[25:06] we'll be here for three hours tonight

[25:08] we'll answer every goddamn question you

[25:10] guys ask

[25:11] um the

[25:13] the NSX and the Hagerty piece you know

[25:16] people I'm sure you got a shitload of

[25:18] emails or about the NSX yeah I did I

[25:22] mean I I get a lot of stuff on that I

[25:24] mean constantly when that came out

[25:26] um it yeah yeah we got a lot of we both

[25:29] got a lot of questions and the thing

[25:31] that I will say in both his defense and

[25:35] not in disagreement with commission he

[25:37] knows a lot about cars and he's driven

[25:39] everything on the planet Earth he's been

[25:40] doing this for a long time than we have

[25:42] yeah yeah this is his career right he's

[25:44] been doing this way longer than we have

[25:45] I disagree with him on the steering of

[25:48] the car and calling it boring

[25:51] um I we had

[25:53] how many intersections do we have a week

[25:55] six seven and a tight bass at the same

[25:57] time

[25:58] and you know when I and I grew up with

[26:00] that girl my dad had one

[26:02] um when you drive it on the street not

[26:04] even on a back road you're never gonna

[26:06] be able to fully load up the car and on

[26:09] a road it's [ __ ] boring right that's

[26:11] the thing that's amazing about the car

[26:12] is that it was a tremendous daily

[26:14] driving car and I know from a sales

[26:16] perspective I'm sure that hurt Honda

[26:18] but

[26:19] on track to say that car is lifeless or

[26:22] boring if you're a patreon there's a

[26:24] clip somewhere on our our patreon where

[26:26] it's an honest this is jack's first time

[26:28] driving a flat out the steering in that

[26:30] car while it's not Lotus Elise you know

[26:32] think back to the fact that this is

[26:34] 1991. the car is amazing and to put that

[26:38] in perspective the 91 their 94 had

[26:41] manual steering not even hydraulic it

[26:44] was a manual rack so it it's weird

[26:46] because I like there's really two cars

[26:50] that have like unbelievable steering

[26:52] it's then SX which is not as good as the

[26:54] Elise and Exige the lease an exagger on

[26:58] another level right I mean but it's it's

[27:00] a very purposeful car for that you

[27:03] didn't need power steering to make that

[27:05] car feel amazing but that car was a

[27:07] drudgery to drive slow and when you had

[27:10] to drive it as a streetcar parking it

[27:12] was like you needed both hands every bit

[27:15] of them to to turn that thing but once

[27:17] the car was moving well yeah you had to

[27:18] you had to work the car to get it moving

[27:21] to steer it then it sucks you didn't

[27:23] have to really do that it was easy to

[27:25] steer regardless of the speed versus the

[27:28] lease so yes it feels more lifeless in

[27:31] normal situations but to your point you

[27:33] know when you're in a corner Full Tilt

[27:35] you're like you know I saw your your

[27:38] veins were bulging in your arms I mean

[27:40] there's so much work that you have to do

[27:42] and feel that's coming through it and

[27:43] that's what's weird about that car

[27:45] um and I'm you know it's got its

[27:47] efficiencies right I mean it's old it's

[27:49] low it feels it's gonna you know you

[27:50] drive a city like man this thing is slow

[27:51] as [ __ ] but that connection is really

[27:54] rare

[27:55] um but it's hard to talk about you know

[27:56] these are old cars now and it wasn't the

[27:59] other thing I think now that I really

[28:00] appreciate about doing this Mac car not

[28:03] at the risk of sounding like some of the

[28:05] other projects we've done you know that

[28:07] car was clearly a passion project by the

[28:09] engineers if you did this great honor

[28:11] and this great opportunity and while it

[28:13] did exist obviously sell cars the

[28:15] Japanese was some of these Flagship

[28:17] products don't view it the same way as

[28:19] the Italians or the Germans right or the

[28:21] Americans when they design a car it's

[28:23] got to fill the box for the rich [ __ ]

[28:25] who can buy this thing that's got to be

[28:26] yeah right this the NSX at least when

[28:29] you talk to the people associated with

[28:31] it the sales number wasn't really what

[28:33] they were they cared no they didn't care

[28:34] they just want to do they just wanted to

[28:36] figure out how to do all this stuff it

[28:37] was like a bunch of guys like how do we

[28:39] do this without any electromechanical

[28:41] system yes I mean and it was Advanced

[28:43] for the time don't get me wrong but like

[28:44] you know it was a first for them to see

[28:47] them trying to spin this up and do it

[28:48] their own way and I think that's why

[28:49] it's incredibly unique from that era

[28:52] because they were trying to do it not

[28:54] only do it but at a price point that was

[28:57] not in the Absurd level like if if you

[29:01] took Lamborghini or Ferrari or McLaren

[29:03] and like hey we want to do this and they

[29:05] went and did it now it'd be 500 000

[29:06] starting yeah we did a contemporary car

[29:09] we did a 355 convertible uh

[29:12] damn kind enough to give us the car you

[29:14] and I both drove the 355 and no plant

[29:16] would you take the 355 over the NSX no I

[29:19] mean again it's you have to put it in

[29:23] perspective 355 360. I'm sorry yeah the

[29:25] you gotta you gotta look at some of

[29:27] these old cars and I I got enough 2000

[29:30] uh last week and I drove it and I drew I

[29:32] haven't driven in like eight months and

[29:33] you get in it and and you know now I'm

[29:36] like a little bit removed from it and I

[29:38] think man you know this car is great for

[29:40] the era but you know basically

[29:42] everything else is faster than it until

[29:44] you really drive it fast like hard like

[29:47] not I'm not talking in a straight line

[29:48] but you you get the car to move with you

[29:50] and it's it's an incredibly unique Car

[29:52] in that way but I could get in basically

[29:54] anything and it's faster than the S2000

[29:56] you could say the same thing about the

[29:57] NSX and pretty much any old sports car

[30:00] at this point cars are so incredibly

[30:01] fast and capable and ridiculous now that

[30:05] it's

[30:07] again it goes back to this point of

[30:09] talking to all the engineers when you

[30:10] talk to these guys that are trying to

[30:12] figure out how to do the next generation

[30:13] of cars I'm constantly reminding them

[30:15] and I had this argument with the Ford

[30:17] guys too when we did the Mustang thing

[30:19] is how do you

[30:22] remember the past like there are cars

[30:25] that are really really good

[30:27] that are you and I told this to Sam

[30:31] right and we got in a pretty it wasn't a

[30:34] heated argument but it was a debate

[30:35] about this like you could bring out your

[30:37] best car like your GT

[30:40] or your whatever Ford product you have

[30:43] or Maki

[30:44] and

[30:46] you could set a lap time on this track

[30:48] that would be like record-breaking

[30:50] they'd be these cars would be so fast

[30:52] and when you got out of it you would get

[30:54] in 99 of the time you get in some of

[30:56] these old cars where they were slower

[30:58] but you felt something driving it and

[31:00] that's what's being forgotten so I'm

[31:02] constantly trying to rehash this with

[31:03] these Engineers like you gotta you gotta

[31:05] learn from the past and understand what

[31:07] made those cars good and try to figure

[31:09] out how to take that and take some of

[31:11] the spirit of those old cars even though

[31:13] it's going to be really hard how do you

[31:15] inject the feel of the old cars into the

[31:17] new cars that are make the new cars

[31:18] worse

[31:19] yeah I mean you basically that's what

[31:21] you have to do because we're still human

[31:23] we don't most of the people watching

[31:25] this and most of the people we meet they

[31:27] don't need a zero to 60 car and that's

[31:30] what the lambo guy was saying the CTO

[31:31] he's like there's only so much fun you

[31:33] can have going zero to 60 and 1.8

[31:36] seconds you can do that a couple times

[31:38] before you're sick and you're done with

[31:39] it you're gonna park it back in the

[31:40] garage and trade it in for a car that

[31:42] may be zero to sixty in three seconds or

[31:44] four but it's gonna give you a feeling

[31:46] like you're driving the car look the

[31:48] sto's gearing was short for no other

[31:51] reason other than it's funny yeah you

[31:53] you shift like four times before you get

[31:55] to 100 miles an hour which like Z06 you

[31:58] shift three times right and you're doing

[32:00] a buck 30. I mean and while that is

[32:03] faster in every objective measure

[32:06] measurement it's a better engineered

[32:08] product for that it's better on track

[32:09] faster in a straight line

[32:12] I'd rather be worse and be more fun I

[32:14] agreed and that that's part of what made

[32:16] and you know the lambo's ridiculous

[32:18] example but that experience is exactly

[32:21] why people love cars if you could take

[32:22] that Lambo and distill it down to like

[32:24] 50 000. but you know the sound of the

[32:28] engine it's a musical instrument it's

[32:30] it's like

[32:31] the science of everything that we've

[32:34] done created into something that is

[32:37] emotional it's fun yes it's wasteful

[32:40] don't get me wrong I'm not even saying

[32:41] that it's it's stupid it's stupid but

[32:44] that engine the transmission the way

[32:45] that you feel driving it like that's why

[32:48] people love cars and you know there's

[32:50] very few cars that are affordable that

[32:52] do that and there are cars that do that

[32:53] but that's what we're seeking that's

[32:55] what we're looking for it's top three

[32:56] driving experiences for me easily

[32:59] um all right yeah anyway like that's our

[33:01] huge discussion about modern cars um and

[33:04] that a lot of that has to do with the

[33:05] fact that we are talking to a lot of

[33:07] these Engineers that are behind these

[33:08] cars and a lot of the brands that are

[33:10] struggling to figure out their Direction

[33:11] going forward and

[33:14] um I know from last thing about the

[33:16] Honda stuff is they are actively working

[33:18] on the back end of making a tie bar EV

[33:21] or hybrid type car that is trying to

[33:25] deliver that and I'll be really curious

[33:27] to see I think I know Hyundai is going

[33:28] to be the first to it or show with the

[33:30] 7180 yeah yeah that'll be definitely

[33:33] interesting

[33:35] um we're going to see all these

[33:36] companies throwing against the wall and

[33:37] seeing what works I know it won't be

[33:39] like the old cars but it's going to be

[33:41] the first one to figure out how to make

[33:42] it like the old cars that it's going to

[33:43] be the winner guaranteed assuming they

[33:45] don't I mean again hyper even more

[33:48] irrelevant than the sto we're going to

[33:51] do the you keep calling it the revolting

[33:52] and I do too but the revolta whatever

[33:54] it's called they're they're hybrid

[33:56] hyper car it sounds like we're probably

[33:59] going to do a donkey foam on that

[34:01] vehicle and it'll be interesting because

[34:02] that is a hybrid Supercar be curious if

[34:05] it maintains any of the purely from an

[34:08] academic perspective the fun or the the

[34:10] emotion that I know nothing about that I

[34:12] know nothing about it either exactly

[34:14] just like oh we're doing the sto man

[34:16] he's like a really excited I'm like I

[34:17] don't even know what the [ __ ] you're

[34:18] talking about I thought he was talking

[34:19] about the STI at first the Subaru so I

[34:22] it's it's interesting to do this because

[34:24] I think probably like a lot of the

[34:26] viewers I have very little interest in

[34:28] these cars that are so esoteric and so

[34:30] expensive

[34:31] so I have to find from my end like

[34:34] what's the interesting part about that

[34:35] and what do you share with the people to

[34:37] help them understand that the people

[34:39] that are making these things are also

[34:40] incredibly invested in the cars I just

[34:43] wish that they were more accessible to

[34:45] people that I mean I get it that it's

[34:47] not going to be that way no it's just

[34:48] make more money yeah it's the easy

[34:51] answer just make more money

[34:52] um before we get into answering all of

[34:55] your lovely questions as we promised our

[34:57] patreons who advanced asked quite a few

[34:59] we're going to speed round some of these

[35:01] um salami asks is there an ETA on the

[35:04] NSX video we've already covered that

[35:06] David asks first modification

[35:08] lightweight wheels or more power

[35:11] wheels wheels and tires yeah tires are

[35:14] everything

[35:15] uh Dan Lee have you considered doing

[35:17] more Motorsports focused videos I'd love

[35:19] to watch you give a Time attack or

[35:21] Durance racing a go uh it would have to

[35:23] be completely paid for I would not put

[35:26] myself in financial Jeopardy to go

[35:28] racing at this point in my life unless

[35:30] it was karting and that would be more

[35:32] personal for me I want to get behind the

[35:34] wheel of a cart and not worry about

[35:36] cameras watch no I don't want to make a

[35:37] video nobody would watch yeah no people

[35:40] people are not into racing that watch

[35:42] our stuff

[35:43] um and you'd have to be really dedicated

[35:45] and focused to that I think there'd be a

[35:47] way to do it but I'm not in a place to

[35:48] do that right now uh Aldo as if you

[35:50] could build your ideal sports car taking

[35:52] any part from any manufacturer what

[35:54] would you make

[35:59] I already know what I would make go

[36:01] first I would make a business make

[36:04] another GT3 not really yeah probably

[36:08] unlike cars that are either the GT3 or

[36:10] the other car that I keep thinking about

[36:11] is the uh like a Camaro z01 just some

[36:15] like ridiculously high horsepower front

[36:17] engine rear wheel drive car that can't

[36:18] put power down like those are the two

[36:20] kinds of cars I like scalpel or like

[36:21] monkey car hmm

[36:23] yeah I can't even think of it it would

[36:25] have to be something very very focused

[36:27] it would you know like we talk about

[36:29] this all these cars are they we're

[36:31] looking for the perfect car because

[36:33] every brand has their own unique thing

[36:34] probably like a Honda manual gearbox you

[36:37] know is usually really good or a Porsche

[36:40] you know you got to pick some high

[36:43] revving naturally aspirated engine so of

[36:45] course like GT3 engine I don't even know

[36:46] what the code is on it or you know like

[36:48] four liter yeah four liter or the the

[36:50] lambo V10 that we just had

[36:53] um some crazy combination of those

[36:57] engines in a normal car I think that

[36:58] would be funny or I've always after that

[37:01] I think it was the Renault that did this

[37:03] back in the Formula One days where they

[37:04] put a a V10 I think I think it was a V10

[37:07] in a minivan and they made a Formula One

[37:10] minivan with like the engine like to me

[37:12] like having a hyper like a Hellcat

[37:14] Pacifica yes like not yeah something

[37:16] like that but ridiculous I don't know I

[37:18] know it would never sell

[37:19] um cx90 video Michael we answered that

[37:23] um you you'll be getting it this month

[37:25] Kyle Hernandez asked in your Lambo video

[37:27] you talked about how you wanted to make

[37:29] a fast car but keep the driver

[37:31] engagement aspect do you think in the

[37:32] current age making cars as fast as

[37:35] possible and keeping driver engaged

[37:37] philosophies clash and can you give an

[37:40] example of an automaker that does each

[37:42] well

[37:46] that's all you we just talked about that

[37:48] I think to be fair I don't want to beat

[37:50] a dead horse but there's the philosophy

[37:52] of fun versus fast

[37:55] fun and fast and what Sells Cars is you

[37:57] have to have this ridiculous marketing

[37:59] [ __ ] look at the all you have to do is

[38:01] look at what's popular on YouTube right

[38:03] now and everything's a drag race right

[38:04] you could get two million views drag

[38:06] racing you know three cars that are like

[38:09] ridiculous that's what people want to

[38:11] see what's fast in a straight line and

[38:12] that's that's no really different than

[38:14] it's always been cars have always people

[38:16] look at the spec sheet what has the

[38:17] fastest your decision every time so that

[38:20] bench racing problem it is a problem and

[38:22] I think the EV market and I know

[38:24] somebody said EVS are a scam I mean you

[38:27] can argue that all day long but the

[38:28] thing is every Brand's going to this

[38:30] they're going to hybridization and EVS

[38:32] so with that once every car becomes the

[38:35] same and that's what the land we're

[38:36] talking about with the lambo CTO easily

[38:38] when every car has electric motors

[38:40] they're all going to be the same You

[38:42] could argue who has the better electric

[38:43] motor design and they're all going to

[38:44] have their branding with this [ __ ] but

[38:46] it comes down to software so when you

[38:49] have the same Tech and just

[38:51] differentiate it by software you lose a

[38:53] lot and I think once every car even your

[38:55] commodity cars become 0-60 in two and a

[38:57] half seconds or two seconds that's where

[38:59] you're gonna be like okay we're tired of

[39:00] this we've done this before how do you

[39:02] make it better and you're gonna go right

[39:04] back to where cars used to be

[39:06] if that is unless self-driving cars

[39:09] they've cracked the formula of that

[39:10] which is going to be I think a long time

[39:13] um I don't anyway whatever uh would you

[39:15] consider swapping your Integra uh

[39:18] swapping to an Integra Type S over your

[39:19] CTR no why

[39:23] I don't need a better daily I don't need

[39:26] a better daily I like the special Factor

[39:28] not not that it's any better there's

[39:30] some intangible about the red interior

[39:33] red seats Type R badge there's if it was

[39:36] my only carb that I was driving every

[39:38] single day I would have an integral type

[39:39] out separate Daniel Arnett asked any

[39:42] plans for a Midwestern Meetup we kept

[39:46] we were planning on doing one with

[39:48] Chicago Auto Pros just logistically it

[39:50] became a nightmare and the number of

[39:52] people that would show up would make

[39:53] doing a track day really hard I'm not

[39:54] opposed to it if we're still doing this

[39:56] in a year next summer I'll try to do

[39:58] something uh Jesus Garcia asked may I

[40:01] request an alpha Julia video you only

[40:04] did the quadrifoglio and the pre-owned

[40:06] Ones cost less than a new Civic

[40:09] I would love to do one we did a Julia

[40:11] video but I never released it

[40:13] why Google wasn't good no because I

[40:15] forgot I couldn't film it in time I

[40:16] didn't get all the filming done and it

[40:18] just disappeared out of the fleet and I

[40:20] could never come back to it and it was

[40:21] in the dead of winter too so it was like

[40:22] a nightmare it looked like [ __ ] uh

[40:25] Jackie Fang asks top car categories

[40:30] the top car categories in last year best

[40:33] drivers car best daily

[40:35] what would you buy

[40:37] the last year of Money Was No Object

[40:39] most underwhelming car

[40:42] what was the most underwhelming car last

[40:43] year

[40:45] what car we were oh the Corolla gr I was

[40:48] so disappointed in that car that you own

[40:53] no I agree with them man that car was

[40:55] like marketed as Jesus's gun not really

[40:57] no they really got me hooked like oh man

[40:59] this thing's gonna be like a CRX or some

[41:02] like high horsepower ridiculously over

[41:04] steering front-wheel drive cars yeah so

[41:07] that was not bad it's not a bad car it's

[41:09] just my expectation level was here you

[41:11] know it was like somewhere over here

[41:12] yeah yeah it's no better than like a

[41:14] launch round or anything like that uh

[41:16] best drivers car last year

[41:18] gt3rs no that was uh GT3

[41:21] yeah GT3 always seems to win I mean

[41:24] honestly like we're doing the GT4 RS

[41:26] next week actually getting it getting it

[41:28] to drive it and I'd be curious to see

[41:31] because I think the problem with the GT3

[41:32] is it's so good

[41:34] it does everything so good

[41:36] but it lacks something on the street and

[41:39] I think that probably the GT4 RS is

[41:41] going to fix that because it just feels

[41:42] like smaller for whatever reason and

[41:44] anyway whatever you know you're arguing

[41:46] that

[41:47] probably the best driver's car is to me

[41:49] the type R in an affordable range oh

[41:52] yeah okay Type R and Alondra and they're

[41:54] great drivers cars even other fronts too

[41:57] yeah yeah exactly if you're not gonna

[41:59] have issues with it those are amazing

[42:01] for the price you got to put in

[42:02] perspective of what they are and then

[42:04] when you go to the higher level yeah I

[42:05] mean you can't really beat the GT3 GT3

[42:07] RS I mean I was sick when we did the GT3

[42:10] RS but that car is next level the RS is

[42:13] the best handling car I have ever driven

[42:15] that is not a race car like I mean that

[42:19] from the bottom of my heart that car is

[42:21] unbelievable to drive yeah and it's not

[42:23] about the speed either right it's fast

[42:27] it's more about like actually the the

[42:30] g-force that it generates as nutty uh

[42:33] what made the 6th gen SI not good sorry

[42:35] ninth gen SI

[42:37] just it felt like cardboard I think

[42:41] Honda you know they knew what they were

[42:43] doing when that car got released and

[42:44] then they realized what they did they

[42:46] they purposely uh what did they tell us

[42:50] it came out when they needed to cut

[42:53] costs because they thought that the

[42:55] buyers and the economy would call for a

[42:58] cheaper car and then they released this

[43:00] like kind of Half Baked not Half Baked

[43:03] but just not a lot of effort and the car

[43:06] felt very very very generic and that's

[43:08] why they made such a quick change to

[43:11] update it and then to get rid of that

[43:13] generation altogether so to me it's not

[43:16] that it it lacked like it's not that it

[43:18] was a bad car but I think you were

[43:19] coming from the two liter to the 2.4 and

[43:22] the 2.4 made more power obviously but it

[43:24] lacked the character of the previous I

[43:27] remember I during our first time meeting

[43:29] Jacob and Yuri in Detroit I had that

[43:31] [ __ ] box I was in university I had that

[43:34] [ __ ] box 8 gen SI that I put the world's

[43:36] loudest comptec intake on the car was

[43:37] hilarious because it just revved yeah I

[43:40] mean it wasn't fast and it was just

[43:41] obnoxious but it was fun but it was it

[43:43] was had the character of a car that's a

[43:46] classic Honda stuff that you you liked

[43:48] and the nine gen just didn't have that

[43:50] character and it was faster but it just

[43:53] it just felt like not as special I don't

[43:56] know partial uh Desai asked I know the

[43:58] b-58 is a big meme he said b-58 I tear

[44:02] my pants I'm sorry I could cut into a

[44:04] b-58 meme but I'm not but I have a

[44:06] genuine question what is it about the

[44:07] b-58 that makes us better than the 2.9

[44:10] liter V6 at an Audi and the three liter

[44:12] I6 or the new Mazda I6 or other premium

[44:16] six cylinder engines what about the b58

[44:18] because Akio Toyota

[44:21] he hand disassembled that engine and

[44:24] well okay so there's a couple of things

[44:27] one it's been proven to be very very

[44:29] reliable it makes an ass load of power

[44:32] for even stock it's it's underrated and

[44:35] it handles modifications with ease the

[44:38] second thing is Toyota's engineers and I

[44:40] asked the chief engineer this question

[44:42] which wasn't in the video they spent a

[44:46] lot of time in their durability cycles

[44:48] and testing internally before they

[44:51] allowed this car to go out their

[44:53] Engineers did the same thing they do on

[44:54] their own engines and tear it down put

[44:56] it back together and do all the

[44:58] durability testing on it and they found

[44:59] that there were no problems with it that

[45:02] they would change they had

[45:02] recommendations but it was mostly in the

[45:04] tuning part so I'm not saying that

[45:07] that's God's word because look at the gr

[45:09] 86 issues with the engine clearly they

[45:12] didn't do the same due diligence there

[45:14] well I just thought it was you know Fuji

[45:15] heavy industry yeah right it was

[45:17] something they owned had ownership in

[45:18] but yeah

[45:19] um that the engine's just great and it's

[45:22] great in a regular car I think that's

[45:24] the thing right there's very few Dual

[45:27] Purpose engines there good in a sports

[45:29] car and then good in a commodity car and

[45:31] that's why it is good because there's so

[45:33] many of them out there they put them in

[45:35] their highest volume vehicles and

[45:37] they're proven they're not some esoteric

[45:39] thing that's what makes it different to

[45:41] me best fuel economy in its class by far

[45:45] incredibly smooth makes a shitload of

[45:48] power and it's when it's paired either

[45:49] an eight-speed and an SUV or in a Supra

[45:52] or a manual gearbox and a Supra it's

[45:55] good it does fuel economy well it makes

[45:58] a lot of power power delivery is smooth

[46:00] and it's reliable it's the best

[46:02] mainstream mainstream commodity engine

[46:06] period

[46:08] um all right next question blah blah

[46:11] blah what's up this is from our patreon

[46:13] straight wet what's the perfect vehicle

[46:16] for someone who needs who works in

[46:18] construction but doesn't need a truck in

[46:19] the joist driving

[46:21] Works in construction going to be a big

[46:23] car

[46:24] Civic Civic hatch a car he's he doesn't

[46:28] want a truck or an SUV oh God probably

[46:30] Civic hat just the biggest regular car

[46:32] you can buy that's also good to drive

[46:34] what about a Subaru

[46:36] oh I guess that would be an SUV

[46:38] technically I mean you'd have to go to

[46:40] like a Wilderness or something like but

[46:41] he likes driving

[46:43] it's got all-wheel drive

[46:46] I I don't know because that's the thing

[46:48] if you're if you're in construction and

[46:49] you're having to take it a bit off-road

[46:51] like on a site you know I don't know how

[46:54] well a Civics can handle yeah you know

[46:57] that at all I mean it's probably on

[46:59] gravel and stuff of course I mean it

[47:01] depends on construction is it road work

[47:03] or is it like a construction site or is

[47:05] it like building a drive-through it

[47:07] doesn't need a truck I'm let's just say

[47:09] he doesn't need to go off-road probably

[47:10] the Civic fine yeah

[47:13] uh got a lot of questions through

[47:15] patreon hola Gents

[47:18] uh for 50k would you buy a 2015 F-Type

[47:22] or 2012 Vantage V8 manual or a 2018 RS5

[47:26] that's all you oh it's all you mark now

[47:29] three cars you dislike your Johnny Euro

[47:31] man I'd buy a 2012 Vantage V8 that thing

[47:34] would be hilarious till it broke

[47:38] that's why I'd laugh at you that would

[47:39] be funny for me

[47:41] um a lot of questions holy crap uh is

[47:45] there anything Jack and Dr Goose cannot

[47:48] do manage money

[47:50] [Laughter]

[47:53] no tool any thoughts in the new Mira any

[47:55] plans to review one uh we I'll I'll deal

[47:58] with this one we asked a year in the

[48:02] change ago to do a docufilm on it and

[48:04] then they they shot some interviews for

[48:06] us that were shot on an iPhone and then

[48:07] they missed delivery of the car three

[48:09] times

[48:10] I don't blame the US reps I blame blotus

[48:13] UK they just don't care I have zero

[48:15] interest in them now I have zero yeah I

[48:17] wouldn't trust buying that car

[48:21] just seeing the the inside baseball of

[48:23] what that what that Brand's doing so I

[48:26] mean that's no different than always

[48:27] it's I've said this before like give

[48:30] them a couple years and see what happens

[48:32] to that brand before you buy a hundred

[48:33] thousand dollar card from them uh Leo

[48:36] asked thoughts on the gr 86 fa24 engines

[48:39] blowing up

[48:43] huh

[48:46] what are your thoughts

[48:49] blowing up yeah what are your thoughts

[48:52] on that engine I I think one

[48:55] we know let me be clear we had zero

[48:57] problems but you also had it for how

[48:58] many miles 15 16 000 and it was beat the

[49:01] [ __ ] out of though which is it was taken

[49:04] care of true yeah yeah all right this is

[49:06] that that car got broken improperly yes

[49:08] it had 5 30 oil yes it did not have our

[49:12] comp level tires on it and it did not

[49:15] have a suspension that was like you know

[49:17] but the cars that are blowing up don't

[49:19] have a lot of that either they'd

[49:21] stickier tires in your car true you know

[49:23] I I think and you don't know the oil

[49:26] situation and like the temperature

[49:27] situation either

[49:29] to me it's a combination factor of oil

[49:33] pressure which obviously it's a huge

[49:35] part of oil brusher it's internal design

[49:38] of managing g-forces you know if you

[49:41] have low oil pressure to begin with

[49:43] which is what all those the fa20 had the

[49:45] same thing just obviously it was less

[49:46] sensitive the 24 or the 2.4 liter has a

[49:50] worse oil pressure problem and you

[49:52] combine

[49:53] low oil pressure the wrong oil and high

[49:57] G-Force

[49:58] you're going to skim a bearing I've

[49:59] always said that like you're you have to

[50:02] understand what you're doing with that

[50:03] car so to me if I bought it I would not

[50:06] be on some super sticky Tire I'd be on a

[50:08] really thick oil and I'd be really

[50:10] careful about how long I was running

[50:11] that car on track I just think there's a

[50:13] disconnect between Toyota Toyota's

[50:15] marketing the racing and Subaru

[50:19] we can't control that I know you know

[50:21] what do I think about it I think you're

[50:22] buying a thirty thousand dollar car that

[50:25] people expect that's gonna be a race car

[50:26] because the Miata can do that but the

[50:29] Miata it's a Miata it's different you

[50:31] know that car's existence was

[50:33] co-developed with Motorsports the the

[50:35] 86th was not developed as a Motorsports

[50:37] product it was developed as a motor

[50:39] sports product as an afterthought and

[50:41] you know you're if I don't know if it's

[50:43] true I haven't talked to the dude but

[50:44] they're saying the gr cop cars are the

[50:46] real race are blowing up two

[50:49] um and they have oil coolers and they

[50:51] have pans yeah I don't know what they

[50:53] have for pants yeah I don't know what

[50:56] baffling anyway

[50:58] you know tread carefully you know use

[51:00] your use your common sense with these

[51:02] cars if you're buying them you're not

[51:04] buying a race car so if you're going to

[51:06] go flat out on track and you want

[51:08] maximum G-Force you know all this [ __ ]

[51:11] it's part of figuring out the problems

[51:13] of a platform and how you fix it and

[51:15] you're gonna have to spend money to do

[51:16] it I is it worth it that that's my

[51:18] question before we get to our regular

[51:20] chat questions and our super chat

[51:22] questions I also want to ask this

[51:24] question because this is a patreon one a

[51:26] lot of this other stuff has been

[51:28] answered more or less by some of the

[51:31] stuff we've talked about already

[51:33] what do you like

[51:35] I'd like you to both nerd out on

[51:37] steering what constitutes good steering

[51:40] and what constitutes bad steering

[51:43] what's good steering to you good

[51:45] steering to me is

[51:47] uh there's a level of linearity in your

[51:50] inputs so when you turn

[51:53] the car responds

[51:56] and as you make that motion the way that

[51:58] the car follows the front end and the

[52:00] back end follow your motions without

[52:03] having upsetting the front end if a

[52:05] steering's too quick which is I always

[52:07] complain about BMW you turn the wheel

[52:08] like this much and the car is like

[52:10] jerking yeah that's that it's it's

[52:13] clearly designed to make it feel Snappy

[52:15] so steering is one when you turn it in

[52:17] the car transfers all that load and sets

[52:20] its sets its course in the front the

[52:21] back end follows and sets and there is

[52:25] some sense of when you are moving

[52:28] changing camber or you're going over a

[52:30] bump or you're cross loaded up in the

[52:32] front going over uneven pavement that

[52:34] there's some sense of

[52:37] a feedback through the rack into your

[52:39] hands that you know where you're losing

[52:41] grip on the front end the worst steering

[52:43] cars are the ones where you could

[52:44] literally drive over a dead body

[52:47] you know a smooshed body and nothing

[52:49] happens in the steering like you could

[52:51] lose Traction in the front and there's

[52:53] no change in load up no change in

[52:55] linearity in the steering none of that

[52:58] is there that's the worst steering that

[53:00] is numb dead and indirect and doesn't

[53:03] you know match up with the way that the

[53:05] suspension is designed in the front and

[53:06] the back I know that's a long thing no

[53:07] no I mean you're right you and I think

[53:10] both agree on what good steering is and

[53:11] what bad steering is I mean obviously in

[53:13] a perfect world you could feel the

[53:15] levels of grip in the tire like an old

[53:17] manual Rack or nothing right that

[53:18] doesn't exist anymore in modern today

[53:21] what good steering is is linear inputs

[53:23] and some level of resistance or feedback

[53:26] to the wheel that is approximating the

[53:30] loss of mechanical grip in the front end

[53:32] right there's very very few racks I I

[53:35] don't I can't think really of much

[53:38] besides the old 86 the FRS the GT3 the

[53:42] GT3 has pretty good steering and you

[53:45] know again a camber and all that stuff

[53:47] affects entire effects the way that the

[53:49] rack reacts of course in calibration but

[53:52] it's really hard to think of a car that

[53:54] will will literally hit a bump or a

[53:57] change in payment type where you will

[53:59] feel

[54:00] it threw the steering wheel oh with the

[54:01] STI

[54:02] the the uh s209 car and the STI uh

[54:06] whatever the hell that thing was

[54:09] uh scis209 the two no but the other one

[54:13] that ra oh yeah the type R A they both

[54:16] had incredibly Good Feeling front

[54:19] steering racks again the difference is

[54:21] when you are really really loading up

[54:24] the front like maximum grip in that

[54:27] front tire and a turn and you feel the

[54:29] feedback through the tire into the wheel

[54:30] or into the steering wheel those racks

[54:32] are great

[54:34] um all right so one of the questions

[54:36] that's been coming up a lot in the live

[54:38] questions is what are your thoughts see

[54:41] I've driven an ss1 only in a regular ZL1

[54:44] I have not spent any real time in the

[54:46] zl11 elite cars dying this year you and

[54:49] I have driven the new Mustang we can't

[54:50] talk about the Dark Horse but we can

[54:51] approximate some of it

[54:53] um what are your thoughts on the Camaro

[54:54] dying in their car as a whole should

[54:56] people buy them it's a good car to own

[54:58] that's come up a lot in these questions

[55:00] I have no idea what okay did you like

[55:03] the Camaro z11le the zl11 Ali is not a

[55:06] good straight car okay it's an amazing

[55:08] car like if you if you were somebody

[55:10] that really likes

[55:12] a hard Edge like American car

[55:16] that is a driver's car that combines

[55:18] like everything that's Chevy and you

[55:20] know the the muscle Pony car thing that

[55:22] is like the elite level and when we talk

[55:25] to the uh Aaron the guy from Corvette

[55:27] you know he got special approval to do

[55:30] the one Ali they said they let him off

[55:32] the chance but how do we make this thing

[55:34] looks like something we never did before

[55:36] and they it got really focused it got

[55:39] really really focused and really

[55:40] hardcore and you can tell in the

[55:42] suspension and all of it but for most

[55:45] people it's completely lost so that to

[55:47] me is a special car I think that would

[55:48] be one that you would buy and keep

[55:50] um the ZL1 they're a dime a dozen you

[55:53] know they're it's just the softer

[55:54] version of that as a streetcar it's way

[55:56] better I think that's cool and then

[55:58] obviously the middle point is the ss1

[55:59] only right it's kind of naturally

[56:02] aspirated you know manual transmission

[56:04] it's the purest version of like the

[56:07] affordable rear wheel drive in the 40s

[56:09] yeah that that to me if you're if you

[56:12] don't like a GT Mustang it to me it's a

[56:15] better version of that and Dynamics what

[56:17] like driving for people that like to

[56:19] drive it's better than that

[56:21] to me honestly I mean I I Chris our

[56:25] moderator knows this we I drove a

[56:28] regular ZL1 that Autobahn has because

[56:30] we're we owe them some videos to shoot

[56:32] but they have a performance Fleet and

[56:34] they let us do a POV and a little stand

[56:35] on each one of the cars for their

[56:36] members to learn more about them they

[56:38] have a regular ZL1 which was an auto

[56:40] which you know isn't that great but

[56:42] driving that car it was such a comical

[56:44] experience

[56:45] and the motor has so much Charisma now

[56:48] that I'm removed from like the FP series

[56:49] getting back into it I heard all the

[56:51] other [ __ ] that's out there the lt4 and

[56:53] the LT1 actually are fairly charismatic

[56:55] engines you hear the supercharger wine

[56:57] it's annihilating the rear tires to

[57:00] every corner that's exactly what I love

[57:01] yeah when the gr goes away and if we're

[57:04] still doing this or not I would love to

[57:05] own one I would own one in a heartbeat I

[57:07] think that car is [ __ ] incredible and

[57:08] it doesn't blow up yeah like the GT350

[57:10] yeah I think that's that's part of it

[57:12] too is it you know I saw some comment

[57:14] the the Camaro is great until you sit in

[57:16] one it's a huge problem I mean you could

[57:19] say the same thing about the the Mustang

[57:20] and the Challenger I mean they all feel

[57:22] like [ __ ] boxes I don't know what the

[57:24] hell they were doing with that like they

[57:26] had no money to do anything I think well

[57:28] Ford

[57:29] he's the the guy interior design no not

[57:32] the interior designer the marketing yeah

[57:34] Jim Jim Owens he's like oh our old

[57:36] Mustangs you know we didn't even it was

[57:39] an afterthought he didn't say it was an

[57:40] afterthought but he said it was an

[57:41] afterthought without saying it that the

[57:43] interior designs were not something they

[57:44] thought about and I you can clearly see

[57:47] with Dodge and you know even Chevy they

[57:51] just didn't put their money there and I

[57:53] think they're worse cars for it for me

[57:54] like I want an interior that is like

[57:56] good and the Camaro the with Headroom

[57:59] visibility it it's not the greatest

[58:02] thing but the way that it drives is I

[58:05] would happily yeah that is an amazing

[58:07] driving car for what it is uh sure I

[58:10] mean it appeals to the part of me that

[58:13] that I shouldn't feed in cars but [ __ ]

[58:17] it yeah well all three of those cars you

[58:19] know like the hall cat and the the

[58:20] Camaro and the Mustang they're all very

[58:23] unique and like they're trying to do the

[58:25] same thing but they're taking the same

[58:26] formula and just how much they can make

[58:29] the characters of all three of them

[58:30] different they're com the same mindset

[58:33] but completely different like how the

[58:35] outcomes came out and they're all unique

[58:38] in their own way for different people

[58:39] they're really cool cars in that regard

[58:40] if I had unlimited money I would

[58:42] definitely have I'd have a GT500 the

[58:44] zl11le and some like Hellcat pile I

[58:47] don't know what iteration you know that

[58:48] would be stolen in two seconds yeah I'd

[58:50] have to keep it locked up in a vault

[58:51] with an anchor and then somebody would

[58:53] come and pull my bank vault out with a

[58:55] couple Chargers and drive it down the

[58:57] street someone asked the question and

[58:59] this is a valid one because we get a lot

[59:02] um that's someone and I will bring up

[59:04] the person's name so they feel validated

[59:06] uh Billy Jason Murphy asked uh why do

[59:11] you care so much about interiors and

[59:12] sports cars why would you want to add

[59:13] another 400 pounds to an interior

[59:16] that's a great question why do you care

[59:18] I care because there's ways to do

[59:20] interior design that doesn't feel like a

[59:22] [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] that you can

[59:25] lightweight I mean you we've been in

[59:27] sports cars that do really basic

[59:29] interiors that don't feel like they had

[59:31] a Walmart budget and you know

[59:34] I I'm not going to call out specific

[59:36] brands for doing it Miata is a great

[59:38] example of a good idea is up here and

[59:40] here like you look at

[59:42] um I hate to say this but uh um what was

[59:46] before the Amira The Vora not a great

[59:49] interior but very very functional and

[59:52] and feels very purposeful without adding

[59:55] a bunch of crap to it and you know like

[59:57] when I'm spending a lot of money that's

[59:59] the thing too keep in mind we're not

[1:00:01] talking about 25 30 000 cars anymore

[1:00:03] when I'm spending 70. 74 000 that is

[1:00:06] insane I expect you know you're not

[1:00:09] gonna re reinvent the wheel and give me

[1:00:11] a brand new high-end chassis that you

[1:00:13] have money to do a nice interior because

[1:00:15] that's at the end of the day if the

[1:00:17] sports car you're driving isn't just

[1:00:19] purely like a back road track machine

[1:00:21] where it's like a weekend thing to take

[1:00:23] you sit in traffic and I I hate I hate a

[1:00:26] chintzy interior and I also hate when

[1:00:28] you have to sacrifice everything else

[1:00:30] for the fact that you can't drive fast

[1:00:32] and you're stuck behind a rogue for like

[1:00:33] 35 minutes I want a decent potentially

[1:00:36] have a decent audio system and if you

[1:00:38] have a bad interior design your audio

[1:00:40] system is going to be dead the interior

[1:00:42] noise levels are going to be bad there's

[1:00:43] a whole bunch of stuff that follows it

[1:00:45] and in terms of modern sports cars I

[1:00:47] know I'm going to go on a rant with this

[1:00:48] modern sports cars have so much weight

[1:00:50] already they're already too fast the

[1:00:53] Dark Horse it's funny no one's talking

[1:00:56] about this with all the Mustangs the

[1:00:57] Dark Horse Without fuel it was on E

[1:01:00] which means probably one or two gallons

[1:01:02] and it was

[1:01:03] 39.15 3915 pounds yeah so you're talking

[1:01:07] about four thousand pound cars with gas

[1:01:09] yes with a shitty interior not that the

[1:01:12] new one's shitty but you know what I

[1:01:13] mean like you take a cardboard interior

[1:01:15] you're already weighing too much and you

[1:01:16] make 500 600 horsepower that car can

[1:01:19] afford an extra 50 pounds of weight on

[1:01:21] the interior to make it better and

[1:01:22] quieter or not quieter per se but just a

[1:01:25] better feeling interior space and I

[1:01:27] think I I've seen it done well so many

[1:01:30] times I even on cheap cars where they

[1:01:31] can do it Civic versus my grrol yeah no

[1:01:34] that's a perfect example sit in a new

[1:01:36] Civic I don't I'm not PR this isn't

[1:01:38] about a Honda Toyota debate sit in a new

[1:01:41] Civic like a SI or a Type R and then sit

[1:01:43] in a Corolla gr and and you'll know

[1:01:46] exactly what I'm talking about there's a

[1:01:48] way to make it feel cheap and like cost

[1:01:50] cut and there's a way to make it feel

[1:01:52] cheap but really well laid out and

[1:01:54] thought out where you don't feel like

[1:01:55] you're sitting in something cheap yeah

[1:01:57] the gr86 is a much more thought out

[1:02:00] well-purposed interior than even the

[1:02:01] Corolla yeah

[1:02:03] um all right let's get into some of the

[1:02:04] other questions that people have been

[1:02:06] asking

[1:02:07] um let's start Dean o'mile thank you for

[1:02:10] your seven dollar Canadian donation

[1:02:12] thank you Barista Craig for two dollars

[1:02:14] thoughts on the m340i is a daily no

[1:02:16] track days

[1:02:18] can you see how I'm gonna turn this just

[1:02:20] a hair

[1:02:22] all right sorry yeah no worries uh

[1:02:24] Barista Craig thoughts on the m340i is a

[1:02:27] daily no track days

[1:02:31] to three three series of the b-58 what's

[1:02:33] something like that's all you man I I

[1:02:35] think I'm sure it would be fun I think

[1:02:37] it's the perfect uh I met a viewer at

[1:02:40] the type R launch we were both we both

[1:02:43] talked to the guy in Sonoma he got over

[1:02:45] 30 miles of the gallon on the highway

[1:02:46] then you go flat out everywhere and then

[1:02:49] you know have a good time in the canyons

[1:02:51] it's just a modern BMW which means numb

[1:02:52] steering numb chassis but as a perfect

[1:02:56] do everything car that's a fast it's

[1:02:57] gonna be fast I mean that's the thing

[1:02:59] not until like the feel part the BMWs

[1:03:02] make up for the feel and just the fact

[1:03:04] that you're like how am I going so fast

[1:03:07] um oh and uh

[1:03:09] Naval puppets congrats on the new maccon

[1:03:13] uh all right

[1:03:16] Joshua for two dollars GT3 RS I imagine

[1:03:20] the 992 or Huracan sto

[1:03:23] say that again sorry GT3 RS the current

[1:03:26] one or the Huracan sto

[1:03:28] oh man I I I I could take either thank

[1:03:31] you the same amount of money basically I

[1:03:33] personally I would take either one I

[1:03:35] mean I I don't have a favorite I think

[1:03:37] for my driving style I think I would

[1:03:40] prefer the GT3 RS but I would have more

[1:03:43] fun in the sto because there's the sound

[1:03:47] part I mean not that there's no sound in

[1:03:48] the yeah again it's like what what are

[1:03:50] you gonna do with it I think the the

[1:03:52] lambo has the V10 sound which to me

[1:03:56] it may not be as fast like it may not

[1:03:59] have as much power and like Precision

[1:04:01] but man it just it makes such a beaut

[1:04:03] like a musical sounding that I would

[1:04:06] choose that as a streetcar but uh if I

[1:04:08] was buying it as a toy for the track

[1:04:10] obviously you you live at the track the

[1:04:12] RS is it's the best handling girl in the

[1:04:14] world yeah there's there's nothing else

[1:04:16] you can get well not the best handling

[1:04:17] car in the world but you know what I

[1:04:18] mean like for the price point there's

[1:04:20] nothing else that comes close to that uh

[1:04:23] Stephen Martin thank you for the ten

[1:04:24] dollars this is to pay for the bananas

[1:04:26] for the gorilla yeah I got the banana

[1:04:28] here this guy

[1:04:31] God did you dig that out of the trash

[1:04:32] can no this is perfectly browned it's

[1:04:34] organic too I just grew it in the

[1:04:36] backyard it's an organic banana use it

[1:04:38] your stool then I sprayed it with Lysol

[1:04:41] kill all the bacteria on it uh Jonathan

[1:04:44] Abu oh Steven thank you for the ten

[1:04:46] dollars uh keep up the amazing work

[1:04:48] what's your thought on the GX 550 or

[1:04:51] upcoming Land Cruiser we were looking at

[1:04:53] the pilot versus the gx550 versus The

[1:04:55] Land Cruiser uh should we wait for the

[1:04:58] hybrid

[1:05:01] the new GX which you already know what

[1:05:03] that's going to be

[1:05:05] the pilot

[1:05:08] uh or the new Lancers or which you've

[1:05:10] already driven the Land Cruiser and the

[1:05:12] LX

[1:05:14] I'm not a big fan of this any of the

[1:05:16] Toyota Lexus Truck things I mean I

[1:05:20] I would take a pilot I'm I hate to say

[1:05:23] it because it's so Nerf compared but

[1:05:26] uh

[1:05:27] if you if you had to have it because the

[1:05:29] Land Cruiser looks really cool yeah if

[1:05:31] that if that image is right if that's

[1:05:33] what they teased I personally I guess I

[1:05:35] would take the Land Cruiser as long as

[1:05:37] they had the Hybrid drivetrain in it

[1:05:39] which they will

[1:05:40] over a pilot because there's something

[1:05:42] about the the Ambiance of that it could

[1:05:45] be Sarah Connor yeah no it wasn't that a

[1:05:48] Jeep I don't remember in the first time

[1:05:50] it went in Champa Jeep oh yeah she did

[1:05:51] she had a like yeah

[1:05:54] uh but anyway yeah that did I'm sorry

[1:05:57] that's not a great answer to her

[1:05:59] question I really hope that they get the

[1:06:00] Land Cruiser right it's such an

[1:06:02] important car

[1:06:03] um and I think they're talking about FJ

[1:06:05] I don't I haven't heard officially but

[1:06:06] that would be also interesting

[1:06:08] I also hope the new Taco is good but the

[1:06:11] problem is the tundra is really bad

[1:06:13] objectively compared to Wall's

[1:06:15] competitors and the LX is the the big

[1:06:18] let's see yeah I don't remember anyone

[1:06:19] the the highest end body gun frame watch

[1:06:21] This SUV is a disaster yeah that one the

[1:06:24] the we did the Nori green one right yeah

[1:06:27] yeah that thing was so disappointing I

[1:06:29] guess that would be a bigger

[1:06:30] disappointment than the gr gorilla I was

[1:06:32] really disappointed in that thing like I

[1:06:34] don't know what happened with that that

[1:06:36] car with everything they know how to do

[1:06:38] it just they screwed that one up big

[1:06:40] time man

[1:06:41] yeah that was uh Hoops

[1:06:45] um next question varg for twenty dollars

[1:06:48] can't wait for the Shelby s650

[1:06:51] eventually I will trade in my 19 GT 350

[1:06:55] once the extended warranty is over I

[1:06:57] love the car the voodoo out of warranty

[1:06:59] seems like a bad idea forty thousand

[1:07:02] dollars uh in warranty repairs in a

[1:07:04] single year uh is it gonna be a GT500

[1:07:08] dual clutch or a 5-liter I love you guys

[1:07:10] they're gonna they're gonna do a GT500 I

[1:07:13] mean they didn't say that but I mean

[1:07:15] guaranteed they will because they're

[1:07:16] going to close this out with this

[1:07:18] generation who knows if it's going to be

[1:07:19] the identical engine but it'll be it's

[1:07:22] got to be changed I mean the the jar

[1:07:24] course engine already makes more

[1:07:25] horsepower so they're going to transfer

[1:07:27] that then they're going to take the same

[1:07:28] engine make it give it more horsepower

[1:07:30] so it'll probably be like 800 or plus

[1:07:32] and be like oh look what we can do if

[1:07:34] you like the current gen GT you already

[1:07:36] like the 350

[1:07:37] this 500 is amazing so the new one

[1:07:40] unless they catastrophically screw

[1:07:41] something up is going to be just a

[1:07:43] little bit more of all of it

[1:07:45] um I wouldn't buy a 500 in the

[1:07:47] Assumption that'll hold its value once

[1:07:48] the next one comes out if it if it

[1:07:51] really is the same engine that the

[1:07:52] current generation 500 values yeah but

[1:07:55] then by by the current gen 5 or the

[1:07:57] previous gen 500 for less money yeah I

[1:07:59] mean it's already so ridiculously fast

[1:08:01] that car is incredible I can't remember

[1:08:03] when we did it on Autobahn still to this

[1:08:05] day it's one of the fastest cars like in

[1:08:07] the straights like not not in a bad way

[1:08:09] like it still turns too but it's so

[1:08:11] incredibly fast I think it was

[1:08:14] uh on North into the back straight

[1:08:17] almost 140 miles an hour which I think

[1:08:19] was like 135 on South where the lambo

[1:08:21] was like 140. yeah so it's like a five

[1:08:23] mile an hour Delta that's how fast it is

[1:08:25] it's crazy but it's not just you know

[1:08:27] again we don't even think about that

[1:08:28] car's hilarious yeah it's not just that

[1:08:30] it's fast it's actually like you feel

[1:08:32] you feel everything going on that's

[1:08:34] partly what makes it a little dicey

[1:08:36] yeah that's actually people ask me what

[1:08:38] some of my favorite videos are with you

[1:08:39] and this is one of the questions I saw

[1:08:41] earlier what's it like working with you

[1:08:43] you know I mean the risk of sounding

[1:08:45] sappy right yeah you're the closest

[1:08:46] person the closest thing I have to do is

[1:08:48] sibling uh being an only child but

[1:08:51] um but videos that make me the happiest

[1:08:53] are the videos where you have a good

[1:08:55] time yeah and that's so rare to be fair

[1:08:57] to him like it's gotten so bad I I can't

[1:09:01] I can't get engaged anymore because I'm

[1:09:03] always stressed out about this stuff

[1:09:05] like I live in a constant state of

[1:09:07] stress worrying about am I going to get

[1:09:08] something done I have to now it's not

[1:09:11] just am I going to get it done I have to

[1:09:13] get it done like and I have to get it

[1:09:14] done and it's just this endless hamster

[1:09:16] wheel that I've put myself on doing this

[1:09:18] it's turned I never thought I would get

[1:09:21] here where all I am is a ball of stress

[1:09:23] so when I'm able to get that like five

[1:09:25] minutes of disengagement

[1:09:27] even though the cameras are running some

[1:09:30] of that is really really genuine where

[1:09:31] I'm like I don't care I'm like involved

[1:09:33] in it the 500 you were he was in such a

[1:09:36] bad mood I don't remember what the other

[1:09:37] car we were filming was and I'm like

[1:09:39] he's like oh gee I do the drive this is

[1:09:40] your car I'm like nah you're doing the

[1:09:42] drive you're gonna have a good time and

[1:09:44] he was started off so sour within two

[1:09:46] minutes he's like this is the best

[1:09:47] [ __ ] car no seriously it went from

[1:09:48] like an honor utter bout of I wouldn't

[1:09:51] say like pure depression it was like I'm

[1:09:55] gonna jump off a cliff and then I got in

[1:09:57] that car oh no I was I'm just

[1:09:59] exaggerating it was just a general bad

[1:10:01] vibe that day I'm like I didn't want to

[1:10:03] be there I didn't want to deal with it

[1:10:04] with everything else going on and I got

[1:10:06] in that car and it's it's the power I

[1:10:08] think that that's that's the thing it's

[1:10:10] the power of the cars like this has that

[1:10:13] it has the utter ability to take you out

[1:10:16] of your own like body for that moment in

[1:10:19] time

[1:10:20] um and obviously if you're not doing

[1:10:21] this you're you guys watching or not

[1:10:23] doing this for a living probably

[1:10:25] um for me it's it's

[1:10:27] it's why I still love it and I live for

[1:10:30] those moments where I can just be in

[1:10:32] that that mindset of putting closing the

[1:10:35] screens shutting turning off my phone I

[1:10:37] never turn off my phone but throwing my

[1:10:38] phone down you know just not thinking

[1:10:41] about anything and enjoying the the

[1:10:42] mechanical part of a car is so cool well

[1:10:45] Mark hopefully that's your answer yeah

[1:10:47] that was like you got you got your

[1:10:48] money's worth for that and bark thank

[1:10:50] you for the twenty dollars yeah thank

[1:10:51] you uh so flow Nick given the Dark Horse

[1:10:53] loaded costs the same as a

[1:10:56] zl11le what would you buy now that you

[1:11:00] have your answer for margaritas I can't

[1:11:02] answer that but uh you have your answer

[1:11:04] uh reading that how you want uh Bob

[1:11:07] Wilson 84. thank you for the twenty

[1:11:09] dollars hot takes will dealers ever move

[1:11:12] towards direct sales too new Land

[1:11:14] Cruiser looks epic can't wait for that

[1:11:16] video

[1:11:17] oh the dealer thing is all state and

[1:11:20] government related we would have been

[1:11:21] there already if there weren't

[1:11:22] regulations I think with EV cars they're

[1:11:24] trying to there's some like loopholes

[1:11:26] where they can that'll get shut down in

[1:11:28] two seconds once it starts the brands

[1:11:30] start doing it the dealers are going to

[1:11:31] have a meltdown and they're gonna

[1:11:33] they're gonna put the kabasha every

[1:11:34] State's gonna have a different rule

[1:11:36] about it well yeah with the risk of

[1:11:37] sounding political Florida just passed a

[1:11:39] law that further protects dealers to be

[1:11:41] able to charge you whatever the [ __ ]

[1:11:42] they want to so well I mean not every

[1:11:44] State's going to do that but you're

[1:11:46] going to have enough of it that's going

[1:11:48] to be similar you don't have a huge

[1:11:50] source of economy as car dealerships I

[1:11:52] don't care what you say they're they're

[1:11:53] they make a lot of money for States

[1:11:55] um there's a lot of taxes that come from

[1:11:57] that and those dealers have a pretty big

[1:11:59] voice so you know you're not just gonna

[1:12:01] get rid of the dealer network uh for

[1:12:05] customer protection purposes that's how

[1:12:08] things work money sadly beats uh

[1:12:10] customers I think in the the legal sense

[1:12:13] yeah

[1:12:14] um Andrew Samuels thank you very oh and

[1:12:16] the new Land Cruiser look looks great

[1:12:18] yeah no I'm looking forward I'm actually

[1:12:19] really looking forward to that oh sorry

[1:12:21] Mark no yeah

[1:12:22] um Andrew Samuels Lads and watching you

[1:12:25] for years with Adblock time I paid it

[1:12:28] back watch your videos way too many

[1:12:30] times and in and after the Miata

[1:12:32] documentary about an nd2 not too much

[1:12:34] power to get you arrested and no BS

[1:12:36] interior first manual car thanks gents

[1:12:38] Andrew thank you for the fifty dollars

[1:12:40] and thank you to for buying uh Miata

[1:12:43] that's that's awesome thank you and

[1:12:44] you're being reported to Google right

[1:12:46] now for using an ad blocker we're coming

[1:12:47] for you they're the Google police are

[1:12:49] coming some get two guys in a little uh

[1:12:51] too tight of a shirt pants and a little

[1:12:54] white like self-driving car they have

[1:12:56] yeah yeah with a bubble and a Chromebook

[1:12:58] that

[1:12:59] it's really slow yeah

[1:13:02] um JDM flip-flops thank you for the

[1:13:04] fifty dollars that's very kind of you is

[1:13:06] it wrong for an affordable car to be a

[1:13:08] dream car too I bought a new BRZ last

[1:13:11] month to keep it forever but my friends

[1:13:13] chastised me for not planning on trading

[1:13:17] up for a three liter gr Supra or 718

[1:13:20] next do I need new friends or am I the

[1:13:22] delusional one

[1:13:24] something wrong with having affordable

[1:13:25] car as a dream car

[1:13:28] you're a loser

[1:13:31] you don't want a sear on what do you

[1:13:33] what are you weak

[1:13:35] you want to spend a million dollars I'm

[1:13:37] gonna Sprint spray some knowledge on you

[1:13:39] and I think most people here are going

[1:13:40] to agree with this

[1:13:42] it doesn't the the problem is you always

[1:13:44] want more

[1:13:45] when you get more you want more and when

[1:13:48] you get more you want more and when you

[1:13:50] reach a point you realize

[1:13:52] I didn't need all that and you can just

[1:13:54] be happy with the first thing that you

[1:13:55] had if you would have just found the

[1:13:57] good things about it it's it's a a

[1:14:00] really great car to drive there's not a

[1:14:02] lot regardless of price range they may

[1:14:04] get faster they may have a better badge

[1:14:05] they have a nicer interior whatever

[1:14:08] uh it still isn't it it doesn't scale up

[1:14:13] where you're going to get a 100 better

[1:14:15] experience from a subra is a super

[1:14:17] faster car yes it does not drive as good

[1:14:19] as a gr86 aside from the engine like the

[1:14:21] engine is a low point of that car but

[1:14:23] you're gonna enjoy more driving the gr86

[1:14:26] on the street more than you are the

[1:14:27] Supra what you like man I mean if the

[1:14:30] grades there's no wrong cars are outside

[1:14:33] of lap times and objective measurements

[1:14:34] personal preference you like cars that I

[1:14:37] dislike I would not spend forty thousand

[1:14:39] dollars in s2000.

[1:14:44] I would not go out and buy an S2000 but

[1:14:47] you would right you will not go out and

[1:14:50] buy a Camaro ss1le and I would

[1:14:53] you mean yeah but this is it's different

[1:14:55] right like we've been through these cars

[1:14:58] when you get that's what I'm saying is

[1:15:00] once you do all of it you have a better

[1:15:01] perspective of how special some of those

[1:15:03] cheaper cars are more affordable cars

[1:15:05] are they deliver a lot of the

[1:15:06] satisfaction of the more expensive ones

[1:15:08] and you know you do it and you waste a

[1:15:10] lot of money and that's what one of the

[1:15:12] things that really helps you to realize

[1:15:13] like put things in perspective you don't

[1:15:15] need all that [ __ ] but as car people you

[1:15:17] know there's always something else to

[1:15:19] Aspire to because we're

[1:15:21] yeah that's my problem I always want the

[1:15:23] next thing yeah you want the next thing

[1:15:25] and then you're like you get it and

[1:15:26] you're like okay there's very few cards

[1:15:28] you ever get and you're like oh my God

[1:15:29] like this is it yeah I have a love-hate

[1:15:31] relationship with the c806 which is like

[1:15:33] the craziest thing I meant to sometimes

[1:15:35] when I drive it like when you're chasing

[1:15:36] the lambo like this car is [ __ ]

[1:15:38] incredible no I mean and then driving

[1:15:39] here I'm like why am I doing this yeah I

[1:15:41] know it's hard it's hard to find it's

[1:15:42] about you what car do you have an

[1:15:45] affinity towards what what is it that

[1:15:47] you like in a car that you need and

[1:15:49] you're happy with it's about that not

[1:15:50] about what other people think you should

[1:15:52] get but that said you should definitely

[1:15:55] aspire to drive as many cars as you can

[1:15:57] if it's within your means to potentially

[1:16:00] go and like look I have the money for

[1:16:02] this I'm on the fence about doing it I

[1:16:04] really want to experience it buy it as

[1:16:05] long as it doesn't screw up your life

[1:16:07] experience it no that way you have that

[1:16:09] experience there's that's what cars are

[1:16:10] about too so to just you can't just say

[1:16:13] don't buy something but

[1:16:15] yeah a question that keeps getting asked

[1:16:17] not by paid chat but just in general

[1:16:19] because I'm trying to pay attention to

[1:16:20] both at the same time uh c606 you drove

[1:16:24] that car GT350 what would you rather buy

[1:16:27] 350.

[1:16:28] I agree even though you're rolling the

[1:16:30] dice with an engine

[1:16:32] it's not really a better car

[1:16:34] it's just a better experience gearbox

[1:16:37] steering

[1:16:40] um all right next question

[1:16:43] hopefully that answers your question uh

[1:16:46] torilage enjoy your content how do you

[1:16:48] get the shot of the instrument cluster

[1:16:49] or the POV shot is what is he asking for

[1:16:52] what kind of type of camera mounts Mark

[1:16:54] sits in my lap as I go flat out if you

[1:16:57] notice how still I am I am like one of

[1:17:00] the most still sitting on lap people

[1:17:01] ever it's from it's from my Santa

[1:17:03] experience as a kid yeah so

[1:17:07] that uh that Z06 shot I'm literally

[1:17:09] wearing a child harness and Mark is in

[1:17:12] the harness holding onto the camera on

[1:17:14] my chest it's just it's incredible

[1:17:16] symbiosis we have between man cameraman

[1:17:20] car and steering wheel I will say what

[1:17:22] it is is a it's a GH well it could be

[1:17:26] any camera really yeah it's a DSLR it's

[1:17:28] a camera that does not have uh in-body

[1:17:31] stabilization so that's one of the

[1:17:33] things because that just creates like a

[1:17:35] wavy vibration

[1:17:36] it is a mount it is a Mount I'm not

[1:17:40] going to see how it is done

[1:17:42] it doesn't when you see it you're like

[1:17:45] what the WTF yeah it's completely unsafe

[1:17:49] but it does everybody's like what the

[1:17:52] [ __ ] are you doing yeah but that's how

[1:17:54] that's how you do it if you want that

[1:17:55] shot uh they're like a couple Brands now

[1:17:58] tilta made a helmet that's for cameras

[1:18:00] it looks like an Abomination but it's

[1:18:03] got a bunch of

[1:18:05] a quarter threads and 3 8 threads all

[1:18:09] over the place your head still bobs

[1:18:11] and that's what I said I like the the

[1:18:13] helmet's like a grand or something I

[1:18:14] don't know how much it is by the time

[1:18:16] you put it all together I've seen like

[1:18:17] every time I see these demo footages of

[1:18:19] these camera brands like oh you gotta

[1:18:21] buy this helmet if you're doing car

[1:18:22] stuff and I'm sitting there I commented

[1:18:24] on Instagram I'm like this literally

[1:18:27] looks like somebody taped a cell phone

[1:18:29] to their forehead it doesn't look any

[1:18:32] better than that so it's about like what

[1:18:33] is the effect that you want to get like

[1:18:36] for me I want like a POV that looks like

[1:18:38] Gran Turismo like when I was a kid or

[1:18:40] like modern video game where it's solid

[1:18:42] and you see it and it looks like it's

[1:18:44] removed from the car that's what I

[1:18:46] that's how I like it uh Tim Elton thank

[1:18:49] you for the five dollars thank you for

[1:18:51] ten dollars I've watched nearly every

[1:18:53] single video and just wanted to give you

[1:18:54] a little because you're uh because your

[1:18:57] content is A Cut Above the YouTube

[1:18:59] competition all I could ever say is I

[1:19:01] just want to see a tiny bit more of the

[1:19:03] Savage geese uh Timmy thank you for your

[1:19:05] ten dollars man that's very kind thank

[1:19:06] you I can't tell you how much this

[1:19:08] titillates me Mark for ten dollars yeah

[1:19:11] thank you I was hoping for some insight

[1:19:14] into breaking into it as I'm about to

[1:19:16] finish my associate's degree in CS

[1:19:18] uh and I'm going to continue my

[1:19:21] bachelor's degree part-time long term I

[1:19:23] want to do DS love your unique reviews

[1:19:25] don't quit any any thoughts it depends

[1:19:28] on where you live honestly like to me

[1:19:31] you gotta eat [ __ ] in some company first

[1:19:33] the best way to do it is get in a

[1:19:35] company that is low in head count

[1:19:38] has a lot of people to support and a lot

[1:19:41] of infrastructure to support not a lot

[1:19:43] of I.T and they're desperate you get in

[1:19:45] there you get miserable you get your

[1:19:47] hands on every single thing you can like

[1:19:50] your network admin is out and he's

[1:19:52] burned out and he's on a drunken Bender

[1:19:54] you have to go figure out some

[1:19:57] networking issue or you know uh you're

[1:20:00] getting a call because uh

[1:20:03] your esxi hosts are all crashed because

[1:20:06] they got malware on them like you know

[1:20:08] you have to be in a position where

[1:20:09] you're getting your hands dirty and that

[1:20:11] sometimes that means you're getting [ __ ]

[1:20:12] paid but you're doing everything once

[1:20:14] you have all that you have a better

[1:20:15] perspective and then you can move into

[1:20:18] where you really want to move in you

[1:20:19] realize what you're good at and what

[1:20:21] you're not

[1:20:22] um I thought I would I what I really

[1:20:24] originally wanted to do is I wanted to

[1:20:25] be a Unix admin

[1:20:27] um and a database administrator and my

[1:20:29] boss sat me down he's like we're not

[1:20:32] giving you this job he's like I know you

[1:20:34] you sitting at a desk all day long like

[1:20:37] staring at a screen like you're gonna

[1:20:39] you're gonna be done in like a month so

[1:20:41] sometimes it takes somebody that also

[1:20:44] knows your abilities find a place that

[1:20:46] has you have a good boss like if you

[1:20:48] interview and I don't know how you get

[1:20:51] an interview these days honestly like

[1:20:52] you just have everything's AI generated

[1:20:54] [ __ ] you gotta talk to a boss you gotta

[1:20:57] when you go for a job interview you

[1:20:59] should make a request I'd really like to

[1:21:01] talk to the hiring manager or my direct

[1:21:03] who I'm going to talk to as a boss if

[1:21:05] you do not get along with them you're

[1:21:07] [ __ ] you're absolutely screwed because

[1:21:09] you need somebody that's going to help

[1:21:10] you that believes in what you're doing

[1:21:12] that you can help them and they can help

[1:21:13] you it's the best way to grow if you

[1:21:15] work for a place where your boss is like

[1:21:17] either micromanaging you or being a dick

[1:21:19] and makes your life miserable or they

[1:21:22] just disappear and you have to do their

[1:21:24] job for them you don't want that so that

[1:21:26] would be my advice

[1:21:28] um

[1:21:30] muggle do thank you for the five dollars

[1:21:32] in the U.S I'm thinking of selling my

[1:21:35] integrale for a more appropriate date

[1:21:37] night car suggestions for something that

[1:21:40] feels special for thirty to fifty

[1:21:41] thousand dollars

[1:21:42] yeah it's 30 to 50 000. Lotus Elise yeah

[1:21:46] probably yeah it's really special and

[1:21:48] it's the what gearboxes are the problem

[1:21:50] right yeah the gear but well it's the

[1:21:51] glass I mean you know if you understand

[1:21:54] what you're getting into like on a lease

[1:21:56] non-supercharged because the

[1:21:57] supercharger does nothing like I tell

[1:21:59] people this all the time like oh it

[1:22:00] makes so much power yeah it makes so

[1:22:01] much power until you do two runs zero to

[1:22:04] sixty and then the they pull so much

[1:22:05] timing you have less horsepower than the

[1:22:07] naturally aspirated one but that Elise

[1:22:10] is a special car you got to get the

[1:22:12] regular one and you got to make sure the

[1:22:13] gearbox is safe and it has the old

[1:22:15] shifter reinforcement kit and then when

[1:22:16] you shift you never ramrod that thing

[1:22:18] and you're gonna love the way it drives

[1:22:20] it's incredible for it probably to be

[1:22:22] realistic probably closer to 35 to 38

[1:22:25] for a really good one

[1:22:26] just a date night car or something

[1:22:28] you're not tracking you just wanna have

[1:22:29] a good time

[1:22:29] [Music]

[1:22:34] I don't know dude you're gonna tell me

[1:22:36] 4C yeah 4C is pretty cool that thing's

[1:22:39] you better sell that in like six months

[1:22:41] though like you know drive it for six

[1:22:44] months and like love it and then get rid

[1:22:46] of it before it has to be fixed what

[1:22:47] else is like crazy special like a Viper

[1:22:49] yeah vipers I don't like the Viper but

[1:22:52] it is a special car

[1:22:54] um like I don't think any of the M cars

[1:22:56] have that special like I'm only gonna

[1:22:58] drive it once a month and it's gonna

[1:22:59] blow me away and the poor shows you

[1:23:01] can't get anything for 30 to 50. now

[1:23:03] those are all crazy

[1:23:05] man I don't know those are two really

[1:23:07] special bets aren't special enough to

[1:23:09] fill that that void especially like you

[1:23:12] again you're like God damn am I driving

[1:23:14] something cool

[1:23:15] um

[1:23:19] yeah there's not a lot I mean I maybe

[1:23:21] I'm not thinking straight

[1:23:22] you know because I I 30 to 30 70 he said

[1:23:25] 30 to 50. oh yeah okay forget it then

[1:23:28] yeah there's nothing can you get a

[1:23:30] quadrafolio for under 50. I don't know

[1:23:33] one of our viewers Joe just bought one

[1:23:35] really nice guy he went from an mtcs the

[1:23:37] one he's like I think's gonna break it's

[1:23:39] his special car but I think it was like

[1:23:40] the 50s 55 yeah I wouldn't think it'd be

[1:23:42] below 50.

[1:23:44] um hopefully that helps them but the

[1:23:46] Elise for like somebody said tracks

[1:23:47] focusr us hey

[1:23:51] Terminator it's not like oh LFA minus in

[1:23:54] uh let's see tracks Focus R Us

[1:23:57] cab put the top down you and your lady

[1:24:00] or man friend are gonna be like just

[1:24:02] blown away by make sure it's seafoam

[1:24:05] green can you get that white or tan

[1:24:07] interior tan I think

[1:24:09] tan yeah uh the the guy who's got the

[1:24:11] SVT badge he said Cobra or Terminator

[1:24:14] those would be interesting cars too I I

[1:24:16] don't know that they're yeah did you

[1:24:17] ever go back and re-watch that video I

[1:24:20] didn't um okay I it was a parody of

[1:24:22] Total Recall I'm like you're like oh

[1:24:24] what do you feed that thing and I said

[1:24:25] blondes

[1:24:28] little videos I probably should oh that

[1:24:31] video is incredible you're like Barbara

[1:24:32] Barbara's like what did you sell your

[1:24:35] Ferrari for this piece of [ __ ] Mustang

[1:24:40] you know the intro is amazing I'm like

[1:24:42] uh this this the shifters so manly it

[1:24:44] makes your biceps bulge because you're a

[1:24:46] breeder

[1:24:47] I yeah I don't I don't remember I I do

[1:24:50] one thing I will say people somebody had

[1:24:52] a negative comment somewhere and they're

[1:24:54] like you guys do the same thing over and

[1:24:56] over I'm like yeah it's car videos I

[1:24:57] didn't even I didn't I didn't get in the

[1:24:59] debate I mean I I get it so I thought to

[1:25:02] myself

[1:25:03] yeah it's hard with the new cars but

[1:25:05] then it's hard with the old ones too

[1:25:07] because then you're really limiting your

[1:25:09] appeal like you go back and do an old

[1:25:11] car that you don't have a lot of

[1:25:12] information okay but I mean it's just

[1:25:15] you can you have more freedom to do

[1:25:17] stuff with older cars because no one

[1:25:19] cares yeah nobody cares so it can be off

[1:25:21] like really like a departure from what

[1:25:24] you do

[1:25:25] uh someone's a Prowler

[1:25:28] Yuri is that you yeah probably your let

[1:25:31] me drive is Prowler around like the

[1:25:33] suburbs of Toronto

[1:25:35] God that for it's a four-speed auto

[1:25:37] right yeah it's that four three speed

[1:25:39] it's just a garbage can sorry no it's

[1:25:41] the car's okay no the gearbox is

[1:25:43] horrible the gearbox is typical of that

[1:25:46] era just yeah horrible leading into a

[1:25:49] stalantis question oh Chris thank you

[1:25:51] for the seven dollars Canadian thank you

[1:25:53] or London this is a stalantis uh theme

[1:25:56] question why does a brand like Maserati

[1:25:59] struggle so hard building reliable

[1:26:00] Vehicles do they just not care I'm

[1:26:03] asking of an owner

[1:26:05] asking as an owner of a Ghibli that is

[1:26:08] now falling apart at sixty Thousand

[1:26:09] Miles I I honestly think there it's two

[1:26:12] things it's money in development

[1:26:16] and they don't care and their focus in

[1:26:19] engineering is not that

[1:26:20] it's their where their focus is is not

[1:26:23] on that it's probably because they want

[1:26:25] to make a Prestige car and part of that

[1:26:28] is making something that is

[1:26:31] the image on the outside and they don't

[1:26:33] focus on the engineering of longevity

[1:26:35] I've talked to many people at stalantis

[1:26:38] and they will all emit behind closed

[1:26:40] doors that they're QDR their quality

[1:26:42] durability and reliability is a big

[1:26:45] problem and whether or not it is still a

[1:26:48] big problem they will debate with you

[1:26:50] but they acknowledge that that is a

[1:26:52] perception and that they need to fix and

[1:26:53] I don't know if they're the right brand

[1:26:55] to ever fix that problem they're trying

[1:26:57] though

[1:26:58] do you think that they'll get there

[1:27:01] they're gonna have to

[1:27:02] you think so consumers now are smarter

[1:27:05] than they've ever been within reason and

[1:27:07] I think

[1:27:08] people's like this gentleman he bought a

[1:27:10] I don't know how much your Ghibli was

[1:27:12] but probably like 60 to 80 000 he bought

[1:27:14] a car that in 60 000 miles is literally

[1:27:17] turning into a [ __ ] box

[1:27:19] you know maybe 15 20 years ago that was

[1:27:22] more acceptable but by today's standards

[1:27:24] people you know consumers also can cause

[1:27:26] you bigger problems as an oem that's

[1:27:28] true so I mean I I think it's that that

[1:27:32] you combine too many different brands

[1:27:34] are now underneath one roof and none of

[1:27:36] them cared about quality to begin with

[1:27:37] right yeah a culture problem and what he

[1:27:41] said a money problem yeah they don't

[1:27:43] that's not a big they don't have a lot

[1:27:45] of engineering budget it's it's just

[1:27:47] it's not a priority I guess that's the

[1:27:49] easiest way to answer it uh Drew

[1:27:51] Humphrey asked what's your take on SUVs

[1:27:53] and trucks

[1:27:54] significantly increasing in size and

[1:27:56] vertical front ends they look cool but

[1:27:58] aren't great for pedestrians or miles

[1:28:00] per gallon

[1:28:05] it's design language yeah pretty much

[1:28:10] I mean The Pedestrian part's hard man

[1:28:12] because they still all go through the

[1:28:13] same uh

[1:28:15] iihs and it's a like crashing of

[1:28:18] pedestrians and now we're leaning more

[1:28:20] on passive and active safety features to

[1:28:23] get a get around that you not killing

[1:28:25] the little kid who runs out right

[1:28:27] but this styling kind of forces

[1:28:30] everything I know with pilot for example

[1:28:33] they when I talk to their designers and

[1:28:36] their Engineers they consciously made a

[1:28:39] car that was less aerodynamic and less

[1:28:42] like a bean like the old pilot to make

[1:28:44] it look more like a truck because that's

[1:28:45] what consumers wanted because the old

[1:28:47] pilot nobody bought in the end because

[1:28:49] it was too minivan right right styling

[1:28:52] is driven by consumers For Better or For

[1:28:55] Worse I mean like even the Mustang like

[1:28:57] you're gonna hear it tomorrow we're not

[1:28:58] leaking anything because they talked

[1:28:59] about it you know the GT interior uh I I

[1:29:02] joined one of the Mustang forms that you

[1:29:05] know let people know this video was

[1:29:06] coming

[1:29:07] they were like you know we talked to we

[1:29:10] Clinic the hell out of this car they

[1:29:12] brought in consumers or who they thought

[1:29:14] were consumers and they asked them

[1:29:16] questions and whether or not their

[1:29:17] questions were good questions I will

[1:29:19] argue but like you like all the screens

[1:29:22] consumers said yes so they added more

[1:29:24] screens do you like the new styling or

[1:29:26] do you want a more retro look what they

[1:29:27] wanted the new styling

[1:29:29] uh pilot when I asked them they like we

[1:29:31] focused the group this thing to death

[1:29:33] because it was important to us so we

[1:29:35] needed consumer reactions and they want

[1:29:36] a truck so we made it look like a truck

[1:29:38] yeah

[1:29:39] and I yeah it's an interesting debate I

[1:29:42] mean again it goes back to talking to a

[1:29:44] lot of these people that are on the

[1:29:46] inside and and what they have to deal

[1:29:48] with because a lot of what you and I

[1:29:50] think and a lot of the viewers think

[1:29:52] that should be cut and dry is never cut

[1:29:54] and dry with these companies like it's

[1:29:56] always complicated and they can't just

[1:29:58] like a lot of the designers that we meet

[1:30:00] and a lot of people we meet they're they

[1:30:02] share the same opinions as us but when

[1:30:04] you're inside a corporation there's a

[1:30:05] lot of other moving pieces like you

[1:30:07] don't it's not just your opinion you

[1:30:09] have a lot of money that goes into it

[1:30:11] you have a lot of like all the

[1:30:13] objectives that these companies want to

[1:30:15] hit and it's so much focus group [ __ ] I

[1:30:17] don't even know like when you ask them

[1:30:18] who are these people in these focus

[1:30:20] groups they don't even know anymore they

[1:30:21] don't even know anymore like and that

[1:30:23] that's my question a lot of these

[1:30:25] companies I know it's really weird and

[1:30:26] it sounds bad but why are you building

[1:30:29] cars for people that don't know what

[1:30:30] they want they're like oh I want a big

[1:30:32] screen they don't know what that means

[1:30:34] like so oh we have to put a big screen

[1:30:37] in a car we have to the people said they

[1:30:39] want it but do they really want it do

[1:30:41] they know what that means to have a big

[1:30:43] screen and what it does to the Driving

[1:30:44] Experience you can put a big screen in a

[1:30:46] car look at the old Toyota it's horrible

[1:30:48] horrible just ruin like literally ruin

[1:30:50] the interior and I think I don't know

[1:30:53] that a lot of these people even have the

[1:30:55] energy to fight they're just like

[1:30:57] you know it is what it is I got to do my

[1:30:59] job I'm here I'm like this is what

[1:31:00] they're asking me to do I this is it's

[1:31:03] bigger than me I'll just make it the

[1:31:04] best I can and that's really what a lot

[1:31:06] of these cars turn out to be I hate to

[1:31:08] make it sound that bad but I really

[1:31:09] think that's mostly how it is a designer

[1:31:12] at a car company recently told us that

[1:31:15] all car design is is taking your dream

[1:31:18] and crushing it into something that

[1:31:20] barely represents your dream

[1:31:22] and um I mean and it's right you know

[1:31:26] the the more mainstream a car is

[1:31:29] what was that that phrase opinions are

[1:31:31] like [ __ ] everybody has one and one

[1:31:33] it's something important that all the

[1:31:35] executives can see and all the

[1:31:36] executives know about they're gonna give

[1:31:39] you your their opinion

[1:31:41] um my old man who was uh in consumer

[1:31:43] electronics for a very long time said

[1:31:45] this and he did some products that I'm

[1:31:46] sure people have actually owned and used

[1:31:48] at a certain point it's your

[1:31:50] responsibility to protect the consumer

[1:31:52] from their own stupidity

[1:31:54] problem with that though is in consumer

[1:31:56] electronics it's a much smaller team

[1:31:58] they're far fewer parts and even in

[1:32:00] cellular design

[1:32:02] you know yeah these things are

[1:32:04] complicated and a lot of people use them

[1:32:05] but the number of parties involved in

[1:32:07] this are far fewer than a car

[1:32:09] so yeah that's I mean that's yeah you're

[1:32:12] right and the capital investment in cars

[1:32:14] is

[1:32:15] unbelievable right so

[1:32:18] um all right next question uh uh

[1:32:21] thoughts Chris thank you for the seven

[1:32:24] dollars Canadian thoughts on the 2024 LC

[1:32:26] 500 and general model year update since

[1:32:29] you've had yours would you buy another

[1:32:30] one if it was financially feasible and

[1:32:33] then I'll say 500 yeah the new 2024. I

[1:32:35] know nothing about it

[1:32:37] um

[1:32:38] no and the only reason that I wouldn't

[1:32:41] is because they didn't address the

[1:32:44] cooling stuff I I have you know

[1:32:47] I think to me

[1:32:51] it's a car that overheats it's trans and

[1:32:53] engine oil too quickly software wise uh

[1:32:57] that really limited my fun yes the

[1:32:59] infotainment is better but it's kind of

[1:33:00] screwed up that because they did they

[1:33:02] once the Toyota connected so you know

[1:33:04] now gone is like the perfectly smooth

[1:33:07] like integrated Dash so they put a

[1:33:08] screen over that I mean it doesn't look

[1:33:10] horrible but it doesn't look great

[1:33:12] um but if I wasn't the monkey that I was

[1:33:16] I would own that car if all I was doing

[1:33:18] was just a general drive like a cruiser

[1:33:21] um I wish that they would have figured

[1:33:23] out how to give it more practical like

[1:33:24] storage and trunk space because the

[1:33:26] trunk is like oh it's so bad in that car

[1:33:29] that really other than that I mean it's

[1:33:31] an amazing vehicle it's coolers it needs

[1:33:33] the coolers if they could put coolers in

[1:33:35] it I would have one and keep it like I

[1:33:37] would literally having keep that car

[1:33:38] that's how fun it is yeah man I I didn't

[1:33:41] like it but I bet 18 I [ __ ] all over

[1:33:43] that car when I got it and then when you

[1:33:44] had yours I love that car now yeah well

[1:33:47] again car I wouldn't buy it personally

[1:33:49] right it's but it's funny because it is

[1:33:51] kind of like your car it's rear-wheel

[1:33:53] drive tail happy it's a Japanese loud oh

[1:33:56] yeah you don't like the Japanese part of

[1:33:58] it yeah it's too like

[1:34:00] I don't know it's like not crazy enough

[1:34:03] or like you know what I feel like it's

[1:34:05] got more like character engine and trans

[1:34:09] wise than most the Americans do now yeah

[1:34:11] other than the big supercharged crazy

[1:34:12] cars well yeah yeah yeah of course like

[1:34:14] if you're a bit like oh would you have a

[1:34:16] GT500 would cost the same as an LC 500

[1:34:18] like I'm getting a GT500 well that

[1:34:20] that's a good point yeah that's a good

[1:34:22] point I mean those are two different

[1:34:24] cars though for dude yeah no one

[1:34:27] no one's cross shopping I mean but I and

[1:34:30] to be fair when we did the GT500 I'm

[1:34:31] like it has very it sounds a lot but the

[1:34:35] exhaust note and everything and they're

[1:34:37] very similar that's one of the reasons

[1:34:38] why it's it's a very interesting car

[1:34:41] both of them but the the LC 500 I the

[1:34:43] last thing I'm going to say about it one

[1:34:45] of the coolest Parts about that car is

[1:34:46] because the Japanese don't do that can

[1:34:49] you name like one other Japanese car

[1:34:51] that has a big V8 that makes a lot of

[1:34:53] like American car sound or even more

[1:34:55] like refined American Nissan Titan

[1:34:57] exactly

[1:35:02] uh thank you for the twenty dollars

[1:35:04] thank you for your hard work and I hope

[1:35:05] you can continue to provide us with

[1:35:07] amazing content oh how has your

[1:35:10] relationship evolved during these years

[1:35:11] has the business affected your

[1:35:13] friendship by the way I feel your

[1:35:14] Dynamic is so genuine yes it has

[1:35:17] affected our friendship 100 maybe less

[1:35:20] for Jack than me but he doesn't say I I

[1:35:22] will just say it has because it

[1:35:26] it's a lot of stress oh 100 yeah this

[1:35:29] it's different like I'm I'm both closer

[1:35:32] to you and less close to you than I have

[1:35:34] been it's also different we don't hang

[1:35:35] out anymore right like the social part

[1:35:37] of it

[1:35:39] we don't hang out anymore all we do is

[1:35:41] work yeah and all we do is talk about

[1:35:43] this stuff like

[1:35:44] I don't want to say that it's it's not

[1:35:47] bad it's not bad yeah but we had a blow

[1:35:51] up oh it was over Mustang you didn't

[1:35:52] want to do it yeah like we got it was

[1:35:55] like I'm like dude I'm not doing this

[1:35:57] and he's like I've done everything that

[1:35:59] you could possibly ask to get you to do

[1:36:01] this and it was like no Jack I'm not

[1:36:03] doing it it was because I was maxed out

[1:36:05] like I had to say no because I don't

[1:36:08] have the personal life stuff that he has

[1:36:10] to deal with my life is you know Mark's

[1:36:12] 15 years older than I am yeah we have

[1:36:14] different

[1:36:15] yeah we're different places in our life

[1:36:17] so you know I know when I'm mentally

[1:36:19] done and you know my batteries was way

[1:36:22] bigger than yours yeah I'm like I get

[1:36:25] depleted so it was one of those where we

[1:36:27] were the end it wasn't bad though

[1:36:30] no no again it was about Jack did so I

[1:36:34] came in I'm like there's no way I'm

[1:36:36] doing this it's the stupidest thing to

[1:36:37] do with all the other stuff going on

[1:36:38] there's no point and then Jack was like

[1:36:40] I'm gonna do this this and this he's

[1:36:42] like okay let's talk about it later and

[1:36:44] then I really thought of it I'm like

[1:36:45] there's no way that I can tell you no

[1:36:47] when you just did all this stuff you

[1:36:49] were setting me up

[1:36:50] like literally I felt like if I said no

[1:36:52] after you did all that [ __ ] it would

[1:36:54] have revitically ruin our relationship

[1:36:56] like that's what that's what it was and

[1:36:58] this is the problem with the work stuff

[1:36:59] is you know for us there was never money

[1:37:02] stuff it's always like I want to work

[1:37:04] more and you're like I can't and I'm

[1:37:06] like I get it I don't have the family

[1:37:08] stuff you have to deal with so I mean

[1:37:10] it's it's I think that's the the one

[1:37:12] byproduct of working together it is

[1:37:14] different though you and I have gotten

[1:37:17] to do stuff together that outside of us

[1:37:19] literally being married to one another

[1:37:20] we never would have done I've spent more

[1:37:22] time with you

[1:37:23] I spent more time with you than I have

[1:37:25] with my girlfriend of eight years yeah

[1:37:27] it's crazy no it is and you're gonna

[1:37:29] have the problems related to that I just

[1:37:31] feel like it's poisoned

[1:37:33] this and it's not you know this isn't a

[1:37:36] nine to five that I think that's part of

[1:37:39] it nine o'clock at night for us right

[1:37:40] now right and I'm working six seven days

[1:37:42] a week even the days that I actually

[1:37:43] have off I'm still wind up having to

[1:37:45] work like Sunday I worked all day

[1:37:47] yesterday and I'm just I was [ __ ]

[1:37:48] done I'm like I'm done so Jack's like

[1:37:50] hey man can you do this I'm like no like

[1:37:55] no dude I can't do any more like I just

[1:37:57] can't and it's that place of being at

[1:37:59] life where you're just like I just want

[1:38:01] to be I want to spend like a day

[1:38:04] not doing something or like

[1:38:06] decompressing or just laying in bed

[1:38:08] looking at the wall questioning my life

[1:38:09] like anything else and that's the hard

[1:38:12] part about doing this is it's like you

[1:38:14] you can't stop so uh oh yeah we also

[1:38:17] didn't set ourselves up not to throw

[1:38:19] some of the other channels under the bus

[1:38:20] but like you know the

[1:38:23] we've created Our Own Worst Nightmare

[1:38:25] yeah like the projects we do like dark

[1:38:28] horse that comes out again I'm gonna

[1:38:29] keep logging it because we have more

[1:38:30] people are watching watch our Dark Horse

[1:38:32] video tomorrow if it doesn't do well I'm

[1:38:34] gonna jump off a bridge you got to watch

[1:38:36] it you gotta watch but um yeah like that

[1:38:39] video everyone else is a go just go to

[1:38:41] launch programs drive the car a couple

[1:38:43] laps and then it's cool and fast I'm the

[1:38:46] [ __ ] one let's go talk to all the

[1:38:47] people who worked on the car

[1:38:49] that's three days to shoot interviews

[1:38:51] plus two days at the track

[1:38:54] for something that everyone else spent a

[1:38:55] day on plus 40 hours of me editing for

[1:38:59] four or five days and then going back

[1:39:00] and forth with the brand of like what

[1:39:02] did we mess up yeah so actually what did

[1:39:05] we get wrong in this video yeah so again

[1:39:07] some of this is like the back end of how

[1:39:10] do we as two people

[1:39:13] communicate the problems and what do you

[1:39:16] do to fix it if there's no playbook for

[1:39:19] what we're doing I mean there's a

[1:39:20] Playbook obviously we're doing something

[1:39:21] wrong like this is where I'm

[1:39:23] contemplating like what if I was 70 year

[1:39:27] old Mark done with all this and I think

[1:39:29] you know oh you got to do this Mark you

[1:39:31] did this did you do a good job is it the

[1:39:33] best you could do and I would honestly

[1:39:34] be able to say that the last some of

[1:39:37] these videos I did everything I had

[1:39:38] talent to do period I did the best job I

[1:39:41] could and I really really was proud of

[1:39:43] the work that I did but what would I go

[1:39:47] back and do differently and that's what

[1:39:48] I'm thinking all the time and I know I

[1:39:49] have these huge failings in this that

[1:39:51] are gonna prevent it from going forward

[1:39:53] scheduling on my end it's making sure

[1:39:56] that we don't have a month like last

[1:39:57] month yeah right last month's videos we