Extreme Q&A - Making Deal and Automotive Lifestyles

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[02:26] um let's start off with talking about

[02:28] current events jack we had some patreon

[02:30] questions

[02:31] we did but there's very quickly i wanted

[02:33] to ask fresh till death 50 answer fresh

[02:36] till death 56's question

[02:38] because he's a young 24 year old and

[02:40] he's looking at a new mazda 3.

[02:41] should he buy one yes contact james

[02:44] orton

[02:45] at crystal lake mazda anderson

[02:48] crystal lake mazda if you have any

[02:50] questions he will make sure that you

[02:53] he's not a dick and he's not going to

[02:55] try to sell you something but he does

[02:56] work at the mazda dealership but if you

[02:57] have any questions he

[02:59] he's like one of the nicest guys we've

[03:00] ever met and he's stuck around for quite

[03:02] a while

[03:02] alphabet broccoli for for two dollars

[03:05] just said you should you should take

[03:06] those two dollars and treat yourself

[03:08] mark because you set up the audio

[03:09] oh yeah i just set the audio up with

[03:12] about twenty thousand dollars worth of

[03:14] equipment here

[03:15] that barely

[03:18] for an hour and a half gabriel young for

[03:21] five dollars i'm glad you bought a new

[03:22] kia stinger gt2 congratulations

[03:27] so it's so we have to say we bought one

[03:29] now because oh is he talking about

[03:30] one yeah no no he bought one

[03:33] oh man we haven't driven it yet then he

[03:35] won i'm sure it's amazing it's a kia

[03:38] it's

[03:38] just because he donated it means it's

[03:40] amazing it's the best car

[03:42] fault so if he's better than a gt3 rs no

[03:44] nobody we're not talking about expensive

[03:46] cars

[03:47] uh how far from molina uh illinois are

[03:50] you mark

[03:51] oh that's pretty far actually let me do

[03:53] a quick search while you ask the next

[03:55] or answer the next question jack so we

[03:57] have a bunch of patreon questions we're

[03:59] going to answer we're going to answer

[04:00] about five of them really quick before

[04:02] we get into your paid questions

[04:04] because whenever we do this this hour

[04:06] and a half live stream

[04:08] turns in like five hours and i take

[04:10] years off my life

[04:11] so it's an hour and ten minutes from us

[04:15] to answer the molina question all right

[04:17] so here are some good questions

[04:18] that i thought you would really enjoy

[04:21] and i wanted to start off with a

[04:22] viewer's question

[04:23] a patreon question about the dbx

[04:28] and why instead of a dbx we did

[04:31] a buick encore gx video instead

[04:35] so andy the lab is getting uh

[04:38] a dbx to review while the geese are

[04:42] doing buick encore videos

[04:46] how do you plan on competing in the new

[04:48] animal-led market

[04:51] i can't compete in the animal-led market

[04:52] i don't have pets

[04:54] and the pets that i do have are the

[04:56] creepy crawlers

[04:57] that i've somehow had managed to harvest

[04:59] in my underwear so

[05:01] but you're never truly alone mark that's

[05:03] true so i i'm not gonna be able to pitch

[05:05] a major manufacturer on the fact that i

[05:07] have crabs

[05:08] and uh can i put the crabs in their dbx

[05:11] that's not gonna work

[05:12] i mean hermit crabs oh yeah okay yeah

[05:14] hermit crabs yeah i got hermit crabs

[05:16] i've had them since i was a kid they've

[05:17] lasted

[05:18] 74 years this is a true story i've

[05:20] always wanted to buy like one of those

[05:22] turtles that lived for hundreds of years

[05:23] to traumatize like one of my

[05:25] great descendants somebody like some 12

[05:27] year old kid who gets a 300 year old

[05:28] turtle and then dies

[05:30] yes on their watch last night yeah you

[05:32] have the turtle on life support just so

[05:34] you can scar the kid for life the first

[05:36] day they get it

[05:37] so the you know this is a not serious

[05:40] question but it is a serious question

[05:42] and i think i wanted to talk about this

[05:44] from the pure perspective of

[05:46] where we're going because there was

[05:47] another question about where do you see

[05:48] this going in five years

[05:50] yeah we'll both be dead pretty much i'll

[05:52] have i'll be

[05:53] in the hospital for sure or in a nursing

[05:55] home

[05:56] but here's the thing that we've i i've

[05:58] been trying to tell jack this for a

[06:00] while

[06:00] and he's it's a good balance because i'm

[06:04] on one extreme and you're kind of on the

[06:05] other side you're just like it yeah

[06:06] you're like a go-getter like dude i'm

[06:08] gonna work hard i'm gonna make this

[06:09] happen i'm not gonna quit i'm gonna show

[06:11] the value and i'm like

[06:13] these guys you know what i mean

[06:16] like

[06:16] i'm on the other extreme of why are we

[06:19] putting so much effort

[06:20] in for no reward or like somebody that

[06:22] doesn't care so really

[06:23] where we're at is like the aston was a

[06:25] good example jack wanted to do advantage

[06:28] and he was able to get in contact with

[06:29] the rep and the rep

[06:31] kind of him didn't hot and we finally

[06:33] got one and then

[06:35] it was just kind of like oh pretty cool

[06:37] pretty cool that was it

[06:38] so well then when you asked for the dbx

[06:40] like nah we're probably not gonna have

[06:42] one in the area thanks for reaching out

[06:44] like the most generic answer and jack's

[06:45] trying so hard

[06:46] to like build these relationships which

[06:48] is exactly what you should be doing

[06:51] you're taking care of the business side

[06:53] and i'm like

[06:54] dude we need to stop wasting our time on

[06:56] companies or people that don't value

[06:59] what your strong suits are

[07:00] if they don't value it and they don't

[07:01] want to work with you don't chase them

[07:03] because there's plenty of other

[07:05] companies and people now that we've met

[07:07] that really want to

[07:09] feed into it be a part of it you know

[07:11] and that's where i want to spend my

[07:13] energy it depends on the brand rep and

[07:14] that's what i mean

[07:15] literally these last two weeks have

[07:17] probably been the most eye-opening

[07:19] experience i told you when we or at

[07:20] least when i went to the toyota

[07:22] headquarters event

[07:23] seeing the fact that they appreciate

[07:25] what we're doing

[07:26] from an engineering perspective and on

[07:28] top of that actually from a production

[07:29] quality perspective

[07:30] and the stuff with porsche we are doing

[07:32] a

[07:33] fairly substantial documentary with

[07:35] porsche on the gt3s

[07:37] and they're all about supporting us on

[07:39] this project and there are certain

[07:40] brands where

[07:41] you will do you will show them your

[07:44] worth as far as work goes

[07:45] jlr is a good example of that and

[07:48] the reality is these people don't get

[07:50] paid or to do

[07:51] extra work all they care about is the

[07:53] base right minimum amount of work so

[07:56] from our perspective working with us

[07:57] means more work you got to talk about

[07:58] yeah

[07:59] it's that more work money was usually

[08:01] well they're not paying us

[08:02] but it's more work to provide us with

[08:04] the resources to cater to like the

[08:06] technical questions which means they

[08:08] have to send 20 more emails and call

[08:09] this person that person and that person

[08:11] actually

[08:12] has to do work and then it's like dude

[08:13] why would you if they have no incentive

[08:15] why would they do it right yeah and

[08:16] there are certain brands with certain

[08:18] reps like mazda as well

[08:19] drew carey the guy who runs their pr

[08:22] marketing side

[08:22] is amazing because he cares about the

[08:25] cars he cares about the engineers

[08:26] working on it and he

[08:27] values the perspective that you know at

[08:30] least in our case we know what moves

[08:31] product

[08:32] people get excited et cetera et cetera

[08:34] but so it's finding that balance between

[08:36] me

[08:36] like dude i don't and you're maxed out

[08:38] yeah i just don't care like if you're if

[08:40] you're not gonna put the resource

[08:41] because it's really at the end of the

[08:42] day it's it's kind of helping them

[08:45] and that's kind of where i'm at like

[08:46] you're giving us a car

[08:48] you might actually get somebody to buy

[08:50] it and we don't get anything out of it

[08:52] other than getting a car

[08:53] and then trying to you know just tell a

[08:56] story about it

[08:57] it's not our own car so why are we

[08:58] trying so hard but aviation and autos by

[09:00] michael does

[09:01] does this mean we get a buick

[09:02] documentary featuring the marketing team

[09:05] yes absolutely if you uh if you're

[09:07] watching this uh

[09:08] live stream all 500 of you i highly

[09:12] suggest

[09:13] you watch the buick encore grande video

[09:16] that's not grand

[09:17] it's gx no it's the encore gx you that's

[09:19] not the title

[09:20] is it a grande i don't know it's an

[09:22] american master

[09:24] oh yeah there we go then we're gonna

[09:26] follow it up with the envision

[09:28] yeah buick should be like lose my number

[09:32] uh so here's the next question this is a

[09:33] serious one as well

[09:35] what's your vision for ev and car person

[09:38] electric vehicles

[09:40] how do you preserve the soul of a

[09:41] driver's car in the modern world

[09:43] is it only about drive train are there

[09:46] other key components that make a car a

[09:48] driver's car

[09:49] and this is from igor um

[09:52] i i don't i don't think at this point

[09:54] they have a good idea of it you

[09:56] kind of have like porsche and audi doing

[09:58] their evs

[09:59] which that's a car company going

[10:01] electric so it'll

[10:04] right now i don't see it kind of in that

[10:06] regard i think it's going to take some

[10:07] time before we get these like pure

[10:09] sports car evs and it's going to be

[10:11] way different it's not going to be like

[10:14] how it was

[10:14] so what makes a driver's car let's strip

[10:16] that back one because you know for me

[10:18] right it's the theater and it's the fact

[10:20] that the machine is super competent and

[10:22] it does

[10:22] everything you asked to to to do in a

[10:25] like

[10:25] a performance setting you don't fight

[10:27] the car it aids you in becoming a better

[10:28] driver but it's just

[10:29] not driving yourself and obviously the

[10:32] theater element of having a tremendous

[10:34] engine is also a part of that and with

[10:36] the ev part of it you lose

[10:38] other than the speed you lose some of

[10:40] that theater but you can tilt the

[10:41] dynamics

[10:42] i think you have to go to an extreme

[10:44] level before you start to get some of

[10:45] the fun back

[10:46] what makes a good car really is balance

[10:49] across the board right

[10:50] yeah like it has to do everything really

[10:52] well and i think generationally

[10:54] all of us grew up with cars that

[10:57] typically the best cars are a little bit

[11:00] louder they have a sound character to

[11:02] them

[11:02] they have this typical like internal

[11:04] combustion sound and now in evs

[11:07] you lose a lot of that and we haven't

[11:09] got the rawness from evs yet so the only

[11:11] thing i can compare it to is like carts

[11:13] you know if you get an electric cart or

[11:15] a go-kart they don't sound good it just

[11:16] sounds like a buzzing bees hornet's nest

[11:19] so there's not really you still get the

[11:20] sound there but

[11:22] you can see how a car that may not have

[11:25] the sound at all

[11:26] can still be a great driving experience

[11:28] we're just it's going to take a while

[11:29] before we get to that place so for you

[11:31] it's dynamics

[11:32] it's dynamics and you're the way to fix

[11:34] a lot of the problems in dynamics is

[11:35] also weight

[11:36] battery packs are super heavy so to get

[11:38] enough

[11:39] power and battery capacity to run a lot

[11:42] of these sports cars on a track at least

[11:44] you know you're gonna drain packs down

[11:46] in like 20 minutes probably i would

[11:48] think

[11:49] in the modern cars so i don't know i

[11:52] think they have to be lighter

[11:54] i think they have to be more

[11:55] purpose-built for the function of

[11:56] driving and we don't really have an ev

[11:58] that's like really purpose-built sports

[12:00] car type thing

[12:01] what did you drive the tesla roadster

[12:04] the original one

[12:04] yeah yeah i did it was not good it was

[12:07] weighed way too much

[12:08] so it's like you're taking an elise or

[12:10] an exige

[12:11] platform and then hacking it up to fit

[12:14] the batteries in there and

[12:15] while it was interesting it just it

[12:18] lacked

[12:19] it just felt more cumbersome to drive so

[12:22] it felt compromised

[12:23] for sure uh let me pull up the

[12:26] next question sorry i'm uh

[12:29] for our five viewers who are watching

[12:31] today

[12:32] i'm i'm gonna pull there's six million

[12:34] jokes oh perfect

[12:35] six million they're all we're all

[12:37] broadcasting from my boat right now

[12:41] um there's a good question about

[12:47] this is a john question should we all

[12:49] start hoarding gas-powered sports cars

[12:51] now that the

[12:52] that we're gonna do an electric future

[12:54] yes

[12:55] let's just answer that right now you got

[12:57] about 10 years

[12:59] we've seen all most of these

[13:00] manufacturers timelines for what they

[13:02] want to do

[13:03] and if there's some like stupid

[13:06] naturally aspirated car with a manual

[13:08] for sure buy that

[13:10] if there's some ridiculously high

[13:11] horsepower car that has a horrible

[13:13] emissions ratings

[13:15] like a one i like the gt500 yeah and the

[13:17] hellcats

[13:18] you should buy one basically anything

[13:20] like that you're that window's closing

[13:22] so if you want it do it now before they

[13:24] get ridiculously expensive

[13:27] uh there was a question about mazda that

[13:29] i found on the patreon side i'm trying

[13:31] to pull it up

[13:32] find it i'll answer another question

[13:33] while you're doing that right somebody

[13:34] asked

[13:35] uh is now a good time to buy a new car

[13:37] and the straight answer is now is a

[13:39] horrible time to buy a used car

[13:41] and it's not such a great time to buy a

[13:43] new car because you're ha

[13:45] you have to buy it for msrp or higher

[13:46] with those kind of the shortages

[13:48] so if you're planning on buying a new

[13:50] car the only way to do it is if you have

[13:51] a really solid trade-in

[13:53] that they're going to overvalue that's

[13:55] going to make up for the fact that the

[13:56] msrp

[13:57] might pay that or a little bit above so

[13:59] it'll balance it out but you're

[14:00] essentially going to go in and have to

[14:01] order the car you want that's that's the

[14:03] best way to buy right now just with what

[14:05] everything going on

[14:06] light to that my girlfriend's older

[14:08] sister

[14:09] she is getting rid of her tuxen that we

[14:11] told her to buy a couple years ago or

[14:13] tucson for people who are yeah

[14:17] and um they're i'm sure they're going to

[14:19] give our monster trade and on tucson

[14:21] given that it is a in-demand market

[14:23] segment something to help

[14:24] now that she's a big girl and she wants

[14:26] to grow and not grow she wants to go to

[14:28] colorado and she wants to grow

[14:31] me like 500 pounds move from being like

[14:33] 130 pounds

[14:34] i thought she was like 70. yeah yeah

[14:38] yeah um but she can't see they're in

[14:40] washington state

[14:41] or she is and she can't find a tacoma

[14:45] zero i thought you said she was getting

[14:47] a crv she wanted a crv

[14:48] hybrid and then for some reason she's

[14:50] moved to trucks because she's a truck

[14:52] girl

[14:52] okay now yeah okay but she's looking for

[14:55] a tacoma and they'll

[14:56] go there are none i bet you could find

[14:58] her a nice hhr if she needs it oh man

[15:00] that would be

[15:01] sssr she would look good yeah out in

[15:04] colorado with her ssr

[15:06] but here was a question you have any

[15:08] educated speculation

[15:10] on the upcoming rear wheel drive mazda

[15:12] platform and their inline six

[15:14] and this is from michael glenn uh

[15:17] i don't have any knowledge that is

[15:21] shareable um and most of it is

[15:23] speculation i'll be honest

[15:25] the the mazda toyota factory that is

[15:28] being

[15:28] met built is supposedly and this is

[15:31] straight from toyota that joint venture

[15:33] is a suv they are making an suv there

[15:38] they won't say what but the development

[15:41] is completely

[15:42] separated they may be sharing workforce

[15:46] but they are not going to be sharing a

[15:47] platform

[15:49] uh so it's not like a combined it's

[15:51] combined workforce but not combined

[15:53] product

[15:54] so they will have two separate

[15:56] manufacturing or they might go on the

[15:58] same line i don't know

[15:59] but that's as much as i know in terms of

[16:00] the mazda6 getting killed off i think

[16:03] um mazda has some announcements later in

[16:06] the year

[16:07] uh and i don't know one of them is can't

[16:09] be is that under embargo the one that

[16:11] they emailed us about

[16:12] i don't actually remember one is already

[16:14] known in other markets

[16:16] the other one we don't know what it is

[16:18] it could be an announcement for the

[16:20] mazda6 but

[16:21] it again it's speculation it is coming i

[16:24] just don't know when

[16:25] so the one thing that people seem to

[16:26] forget um as well

[16:28] is toyota is mazda's bank as well

[16:32] toyota financial does help provide from

[16:34] one understand based on my week there

[16:36] and this is public knowledge

[16:37] a lot of mazda's financing and mazda

[16:39] dealers will now have access

[16:41] to toyota financing moving forward which

[16:44] is a

[16:45] huge benefit for their customer base and

[16:47] as many people may or may not know

[16:49] toyota's the largest holder of

[16:51] automotive loans

[16:52] here at least in the united states well

[16:55] they're one of the biggest banks in the

[16:56] world and that's because

[16:57] they also give out loans for other

[16:59] companies so

[17:01] you know they everybody talks about

[17:03] toyota being an enormous

[17:04] entity in terms of cars but they also

[17:07] are an enormous entity in terms of

[17:08] loaning out money

[17:09] in a company like mazda which james

[17:11] actually asked a question about this

[17:13] like how do these dealerships stay alive

[17:16] right now

[17:17] when he typically had 60 used cars on

[17:19] the lot and they're down to 10.

[17:21] you know that's one problem and then the

[17:24] financing is going to become another

[17:25] because you have this inflated

[17:27] this infl i don't you know i'm not going

[17:29] to get into the john business part of

[17:31] this but you know you have the inflation

[17:33] and then you have the inflated prices

[17:34] which are two separate things

[17:36] and what what point do banks get spooked

[17:39] and stop loaning out the required money

[17:40] people are going to be defaulting on

[17:42] their loans and you you just need to

[17:43] talk to a good financial advisor it's

[17:46] one of the bigger banks at the risk of

[17:47] sounding like john business

[17:48] they know all these people who are

[17:50] taking out loans and cars they can't

[17:51] afford

[17:52] because for whatever reason they want to

[17:53] buy them and they're buying at these

[17:54] inflated prices people are going to

[17:56] start defaulting on cars

[17:57] that's if it comes back down but yeah if

[17:59] you're if you're loaning out money on a

[18:01] car that's like

[18:02] fifty thousand dollars and it really

[18:04] should be 40

[18:05] and then somebody's stuck with that high

[18:06] payment there's no incentive really to

[18:08] to pay it back if the market like it

[18:10] cools off so

[18:12] it's kind of a weird position to be in i

[18:14] don't know how the dealerships do it

[18:16] like to james point

[18:17] you know if you have an inventory of 10

[18:18] cars you're cutting head count

[18:20] they're they're laying off people and

[18:22] sending people home

[18:24] so you don't have product people can't

[18:26] have jobs and then the products that

[18:27] they do have

[18:28] are way overpriced and then it's it's a

[18:31] vicious cycle so in terms of cars

[18:33] i don't know i think it's a wait-and-see

[18:35] game as soon as production comes back up

[18:38] people are going to be like

[18:39] going nuts yeah and that might drive

[18:41] prices down too so

[18:42] it's the market's gonna be flooded yeah

[18:43] you're gonna have like all these cars

[18:45] coming in people are gonna be clamoring

[18:47] so hopefully it recovers my guess is it

[18:50] will

[18:50] so i'm gonna ask answer a question

[18:52] that's been asked like nine

[18:53] times by alberto canderlo

[18:58] why don't you i know my my ability to

[19:00] pronounce names is

[19:01] horrendous how does a youtube of the

[19:03] small channel get

[19:04] press cars review well alberto your best

[19:07] bet in the way mark did it is make a

[19:09] connection at a press company

[19:10] so at a car company one of the pr

[19:12] managers

[19:14] and uh if you can pitch someone either

[19:15] your value your production quality or

[19:17] something they'll give you a chance

[19:19] and that's the way you you start is just

[19:21] through that and through referrals

[19:22] through other manufacturers

[19:24] and building a i don't know a reputation

[19:28] and a value that

[19:29] you're going to add to these oems you

[19:30] need an angle and right now there's two

[19:32] of them

[19:33] either you're a journalist and media or

[19:36] you're an influencer and that's kind of

[19:38] how they're dealing with this when i

[19:39] started the influencer part was like

[19:41] really tiny now it's like they're

[19:43] bringing influencers on trips so if you

[19:45] have a huge following on

[19:47] you know generationally i mean i'm not

[19:50] going to get into what i feel about it

[19:51] but if you're if you're huge on tick

[19:52] tock

[19:53] and you have a following on tick tock

[19:55] and instagram and you can prove you have

[19:56] a lot of followers regardless if you

[19:58] make content that could be enough to get

[19:59] you a press car

[20:01] counter point is like if you're good on

[20:03] youtube or whatever you're more the

[20:04] journalist side that will help you if

[20:06] you have

[20:07] nothing then the next suggestion would

[20:09] be you have to join a press guild

[20:11] that's about it you need to join a press

[20:13] skill but you have to have content to

[20:14] show

[20:15] so that means that's why a lot of these

[20:16] guys get started whoring themselves out

[20:18] at dealerships

[20:19] getting every dealership to give them a

[20:21] car whether the content's good or bad

[20:23] it's building up

[20:24] something but i'm telling you right now

[20:26] everybody's doing that

[20:27] because that that bar to entry is so low

[20:30] to churn that out you have to have a

[20:33] differentiator

[20:34] and if you're not doing something

[20:35] different then you're just going to get

[20:36] lost and you're going to be beating your

[20:37] head against the wall

[20:38] yep that's that's probably the best

[20:40] summary of that last patreon question

[20:42] and those on patreon i will

[20:44] like i've been doing so far answering

[20:46] the i'll answer the questions via text

[20:48] um takeaways from the toyota no no

[20:51] that's not the question i want to ask

[20:52] well here takeaways from the toyota

[20:54] event do you know

[20:55] when you're getting a gv70 and do you

[20:58] have any recommendations for genesis

[21:00] products as a whole uh i'll

[21:03] talk about the genesis stuff we will be

[21:05] getting a g70 and a g

[21:07] we'd already did a gv70 no the gb 70's

[21:09] not the junior gb8 we'll get a gv70 and

[21:11] a g70 i know that's on

[21:13] the list they're just filling the fleets

[21:15] out in the regions

[21:17] so far what i've seen is it's just going

[21:20] to be a better

[21:21] previous generation g70 and the interior

[21:23] and exterior

[21:25] they're going to make some subtle

[21:26] improvements but overall it's not going

[21:27] to be that much different of a car

[21:29] because it's on the same platform

[21:31] uh they've updated a few things but i'm

[21:33] looking forward to it

[21:35] yeah and the takeaways from the toyota

[21:36] events the stuff i can talk about or

[21:38] kind of allude to as the embargoes get

[21:40] lifted

[21:41] the future is pretty bright for the

[21:43] brand um

[21:44] it is also uh certain things that we

[21:47] love about the brand

[21:48] specifically the v8 even though they

[21:50] haven't publicly announced it and it's

[21:51] been brought up a lot

[21:53] you can probably assume that's going

[21:54] away and the iso 500 is going to be at

[21:56] swan song

[21:57] yeah no that's well known we talked

[21:59] about it last year when we did our lexus

[22:00] video that the v8 is dead

[22:02] now it is dead it really i mean at least

[22:04] the naturally aspirated version

[22:06] now they're they you know the thing is

[22:08] this toyota japan and twitter america

[22:10] don't particularly connect on every

[22:11] single topic they do not if it's a

[22:13] purely japanese project

[22:15] high up in the ranks america is going to

[22:17] be kind of the last to know about it

[22:19] so they have patents and stuff and all

[22:21] this crap's come out for twin turbo v8s

[22:23] and we've seen things from japan where

[22:25] they said those v8s are going to be

[22:26] reserved for cars well in excess of a

[22:28] hundred thousand dollars

[22:29] so my belief is there will be a twin

[22:32] turbo v8 and some

[22:33] high-end product but everything that

[22:35] toyota america and toyota lexus says

[22:37] in america is that they're going ev they

[22:40] don't really have

[22:42] that information or they don't know they

[22:44] think they're going in a different

[22:44] direction but i think japan is going to

[22:46] have some like swan song like crazy v8

[22:48] cars also knowing how akio runs the

[22:50] company

[22:51] is getting that perspective and talking

[22:53] like talking to people like ken gucci so

[22:56] a project and this is a question that's

[22:57] been asked like nine times now in the

[22:58] chat

[22:59] thoughts on the gr86 we are confirming

[23:02] some stuff with

[23:03] toyota and lexus usa logistically but

[23:06] we're doing a pretty big video

[23:07] on the 86 obviously no journalists drove

[23:10] the 86

[23:12] or at least was allowed to drive the 86

[23:15] but we all got to ride shotgun and i

[23:17] probably did the most slaps

[23:19] with ken gucci there out of anyone just

[23:21] because no one wanted to ride with him

[23:23] for some reason

[23:24] um the 86 feels remarkably similar to

[23:28] the prior generation vehicle

[23:30] um you know if you like the prior car

[23:33] this one's better

[23:33] and basically talking you can it's

[23:35] better in every conceivable way

[23:38] um and it's it's really really

[23:39] impressive and hopefully they keep the

[23:40] price to a

[23:41] you know affordability range and you

[23:43] know it's proof that toyota lexus and

[23:45] the story about akio toyota is true he

[23:47] confirmed that

[23:48] akio basically went to a bunch of near

[23:50] engineers a couple months ago

[23:52] and went this is horrible fix it but

[23:54] what that's the problem what was

[23:56] horrible about it

[23:57] okay so i mean really it's it's an

[24:00] evolution of the last car

[24:02] more power more torque better power band

[24:04] um

[24:05] what was the other i don't see i don't

[24:07] know how much stuff we can actually talk

[24:08] about i wasn't there so i don't yeah the

[24:10] embargo is kind of like a murky thing so

[24:11] i don't want to bring up too much but at

[24:13] least that is a publicly recognized

[24:15] story

[24:15] yeah it's one of the things that is so

[24:16] interesting about the company is akio

[24:18] toyota

[24:19] because of the new driving philosophy

[24:20] associated with lexus

[24:22] supposedly signs off on every car

[24:24] dynamically at least the cars he cares

[24:26] about which

[24:27] at this point yeah um which is i mean it

[24:29] is really really impressive

[24:31] it's the gr cars because gr is his yeah

[24:34] he started that so

[24:35] i i can understand why he would want his

[24:37] his hand yeah you're not having like

[24:38] maribera drift around in a c8 that's not

[24:42] something you're getting but you are

[24:43] getting that with lexus which is amazing

[24:46] uh sorry toyota so let's uh let's get

[24:49] into some of the paid questions so uh we

[24:51] don't

[24:52] uh miss all of these and i apologize let

[24:55] me

[24:56] pull up or you want to

[24:59] answer some of these questions

[25:03] all right paul for five dollars thank

[25:06] you so much paul for the donation

[25:07] what are your predictions on what trucks

[25:10] and cars from the 90s will be

[25:11] collectible classics 30 years from now

[25:13] trucks and cars from the 90s

[25:16] uh i think we already know a lot of

[25:18] those right that's 2000

[25:19] nsx a lot of the japanese uh

[25:23] like love rx 8 or rx7

[25:27] uh some of the german cars that aren't

[25:29] too disposable or tech based

[25:31] like the 996s have just skyrocketed in

[25:35] price

[25:37] what about the bombers e36s are going up

[25:39] e46s are crazy e39

[25:42] m5s are insane i don't really see that

[25:43] for the mercedes products

[25:45] i just think cars that were automatic as

[25:48] well

[25:48] will not appreciate the same rate as

[25:50] manuals because the automatic gearbox

[25:52] even an enthusiast car dates it so

[25:54] heavily yeah i think like i started to

[25:56] say this before if you get anything

[25:57] that's naturally aspirated

[25:59] and a manual transmission i mean that's

[26:02] you're already set up if you get

[26:03] something clean

[26:04] and it may not have a value now but if

[26:06] you get something clean that's not

[26:07] totally beat up those are those are the

[26:09] ones that target in terms of trucks i

[26:10] don't really know

[26:11] i mean you're talking about like

[26:13] cyclones and stuff like that

[26:15] and yeah srt10 i mean that's just like a

[26:17] lot of these things

[26:18] really clean tacomas like yeah yeah yeah

[26:21] yeah

[26:22] like some of the toyota trucks the clean

[26:24] tundras and obviously the stupid things

[26:26] like srt-10s and all that other nonsense

[26:28] i todd messaged me or messaged like the

[26:31] group about some japanese cars that are

[26:33] playing cruisers

[26:34] well he sent first he sent uh

[26:37] film props which you can't really see

[26:39] here but he wanted me to get in

[26:41] the uzi from uh casino from the scene

[26:44] for that for four hundred dollars

[26:46] um but yeah there's a website called

[26:49] japanese classics llc and they sell all

[26:52] the imports

[26:53] and websites like that are really a good

[26:55] way to kind of see what's

[26:58] going up in price and what you could buy

[26:59] as a collectible there's a lot of cool

[27:01] stuff out there but i'll leave it at

[27:02] that

[27:03] yeah i think the most of the market's so

[27:06] crazy right now i was talking to

[27:08] uh uh someone on instagram who's uh like

[27:12] sort of a journalist i think her channel

[27:14] is now called torque

[27:15] it changed what was it before uh hot

[27:18] dogs yeah hot dogs dogs

[27:20] but she was uh being like can you

[27:22] imagine waking up and telling yourself

[27:24] that you just bought a 996

[27:25] convertible used like non-turbo nothing

[27:28] for 50

[27:29] 000 yeah and that's just the proof the

[27:31] prices right now make

[27:32] no sense but i'm sure cars like that

[27:35] because it was manual blah blah blah

[27:36] blah are going up crazy in value

[27:38] hopefully that answers your question

[27:40] paul here's one i back on the patreon

[27:42] said what's your opinion on bmw's bet on

[27:44] the new comic style front grille this is

[27:46] a huge uproar amongst existing and

[27:48] potential owners

[27:49] why do they insist on using the new

[27:51] grills

[27:53] you're john bmws not that john bmw

[27:56] dude you're probably got three on order

[27:58] just the grills

[28:00] yeah i just ordered front ends of m3s

[28:02] and regular four series

[28:04] so from my understanding a lot of that

[28:06] was done for the chinese market

[28:08] genuinely it was a request that they had

[28:11] the big grill

[28:12] look is something that a lot of people

[28:13] seem to like and it also

[28:15] you know the it's their overcompensating

[28:18] for the fact that people used to think

[28:19] they were boring so now i gotta look

[28:20] like i've got

[28:21] money so money equals big grill we joke

[28:24] about this all the time

[28:25] manufacturers should have the narcissist

[28:27] package which just shows your net worth

[28:29] in the back window

[28:31] yep but i i just i don't see it aging

[28:34] well i think though

[28:34] i don't really care so much about the

[28:36] grill because all that those trends kind

[28:38] of evolve over time and they

[28:39] get normalized and you're just like

[28:40] everybody starts doing the same thing

[28:42] and you're like okay now that's normal

[28:44] for that time period or that

[28:45] five win five year window to me what's

[28:48] more disgusting

[28:49] is that m4 i hate the way the car looks

[28:53] i don't even care about the grill it's

[28:54] like proportionately it's like a mustang

[28:56] mixed with like yeah it looks well

[28:59] tiburon like i don't know i see so many

[29:01] cars in it

[29:02] and it's just i don't know it's just not

[29:04] that attractive of a car to me but then

[29:06] again

[29:06] i don't look at it as seriously as like

[29:08] a bmw enthusiast because to me they're

[29:10] all like

[29:11] i think i've i've started to move away

[29:13] from liking bmws more and more because

[29:15] as you said they're getting more and

[29:16] more soulless and i am starting to agree

[29:18] with that

[29:18] though i will say this we are getting a

[29:20] new m3

[29:22] and m4 uh viewers giving us his m3

[29:24] manual

[29:25] and we're getting an m4 competition from

[29:27] the press fleet which is automatic

[29:29] um it'll be interesting you know it

[29:31] still makes me excited that they still

[29:32] make a rear drive

[29:34] manual sports car that revs and isn't

[29:38] going to like a four-cylinder like

[29:39] mercedes

[29:40] or has stripped away any of its dual

[29:42] personality sportiness like an s4 or rs5

[29:45] well these manufacturers have it good

[29:47] now because instead of everybody

[29:49] complaining

[29:49] about their cars now we're at a place

[29:52] where we're like

[29:53] well we better not complain about it

[29:54] because there's nothing left and you

[29:56] know so like everybody's now making

[29:57] excuses for that fact well at least

[29:59] they're making something it's like

[30:01] yeah i know the lowest common

[30:02] denominator like thing

[30:05] and that's just the way it is i think

[30:07] what what's the car that we just did oh

[30:08] we're doing the tlx type s

[30:10] yeah and that was kind of the argument

[30:11] in this car is

[30:13] you know there's nothing wrong with it

[30:15] everything that's wrong with it

[30:16] is just because of the era that it's

[30:18] made in you know

[30:20] they have a dozen it has a box that it's

[30:22] trapped in because of what they have to

[30:24] do to make a card today

[30:25] and those requirements to make that car

[30:27] successful today

[30:29] including all the regulation stuff is

[30:31] what is makes that tlx

[30:33] an issue not the car and that's to me

[30:36] the biggest disappointment of doing this

[30:38] but there are certain brands it's still

[30:39] and here's my problem with the car

[30:41] in retrospect we're actually just about

[30:43] to film the shop segment on the tlx type

[30:45] house we're going to do that tonight

[30:46] after this

[30:47] one of my issues with that car is

[30:50] you know you are an old-school honda guy

[30:52] and the people who are going to be

[30:53] buying it

[30:54] are people like you right old school

[30:56] honda guys and what is the thing that

[30:58] people love about hondas it's their

[31:00] engines and you could take that three

[31:02] liter

[31:03] again so if people who don't know the

[31:05] tlx type s motor only robs a 6200 rpm

[31:08] you can put that in an audi you put that

[31:10] in a bmw an infiniti

[31:12] not a lexus because they don't make

[31:13] anything modern but you know you could

[31:14] put it in another car

[31:16] and it would feel at home in that car it

[31:19] doesn't feel like a honda engine

[31:21] and yes it is turbocharged but other

[31:24] turbocharged powertrains

[31:26] wind out they still have something like

[31:28] the b58 which is a generic ass engine

[31:31] from bmw revs to 7000 rpm

[31:34] and you know if you drive a modern

[31:35] porsche engine the three liter

[31:37] it's incredible even with turbos yeah

[31:40] it's a it's a tough call honda and acura

[31:42] are big

[31:43] on doing their own stuff um and we

[31:46] always say this some of the things that

[31:47] they do are to their own detriment

[31:49] i i respect the fact that they want to

[31:51] try to do this on their own

[31:52] um and they have their own path and i

[31:54] think that's what's unique about these

[31:55] cars is it's

[31:56] it's very uniquely acura and honda and

[32:00] that's why i like it and there's so much

[32:01] that you connect with something that's a

[32:03] bad car

[32:03] no no it's a very good car i'm just

[32:05] saying that it it does feel like a honda

[32:07] and acura

[32:09] but the engine and transmission are no

[32:11] longer what made them

[32:12] great and memorable like what you're

[32:13] saying it's now become

[32:15] kind of a victim of where we're at in

[32:18] terms of

[32:19] development and everything else what's

[32:21] impressive about the car is

[32:22] the dynamics it is one of the most

[32:23] impressive sports sedans

[32:26] not track sport ends you can buy from

[32:27] handling perspective right it's amazing

[32:30] and that's that's something we'll talk

[32:31] about in the video like i when i do the

[32:33] final thoughts for it one of the big

[32:34] things is is

[32:36] the tl type s or the old honda and acura

[32:38] products

[32:39] you know they were very memorable in

[32:41] their time periods because they were

[32:43] special

[32:44] they had a unique thing that didn't mean

[32:45] they were the best and that's something

[32:47] we talked about lexus and toyota too

[32:48] they're very unique but they didn't they

[32:50] didn't have the specs they didn't have

[32:51] the numbers game they didn't have the

[32:53] alt-right performance they didn't have

[32:54] some of the crazy engineering

[32:56] this new tlx type s has more of that

[32:59] than it used to

[33:00] and it's way better than their old cars

[33:02] and it looks good and it looks good

[33:04] it's just not what they used to make and

[33:07] i

[33:08] i don't know that people that are a huge

[33:10] enthusiast of these cars are going to be

[33:11] able to accept that and move on to this

[33:13] next phase

[33:14] i'm struggling with it because of what i

[33:17] grew up with

[33:18] i'm struggling with this changeover that

[33:20] we're going through and a lot of it is

[33:21] not for the better

[33:23] um in terms of fun factor and i don't

[33:26] know

[33:26] you know that everybody's gonna have to

[33:27] suffer through this i think it's gonna

[33:29] be interesting to me

[33:30] to watch real honda people again like i

[33:33] said in the tlx video i grew up with

[33:35] acuras for a little while my dad had

[33:37] like three legends he had a first gen

[33:39] nsx and

[33:40] he had the very first model year tl type

[33:44] s when it was first offered here in the

[33:45] us

[33:46] so i grew up with these things and what

[33:48] i remember about those cars is

[33:49] objectively they were dynamically worse

[33:51] right yeah than the germans but had a

[33:53] very special motor

[33:55] you know despite not being an m car or

[33:57] whatever right and

[33:58] now it's the exact opposite dynamically

[34:00] it's really really impressive

[34:02] you're right you could do things in the

[34:04] tlx type s you couldn't do in a three

[34:06] series yeah not an m3 but like a yeah

[34:08] like a lot of cars

[34:09] i mean you really you really could but

[34:11] you're losing the

[34:12] that's what i'm saying in the video

[34:13] you're losing something

[34:15] with with losing the engine and that

[34:17] goes back to that ev question

[34:18] is you know how do you make these cars

[34:21] feel special when you have

[34:22] basically electric motors electronic

[34:25] control

[34:26] torque that's not even torque vectoring

[34:27] it's electronic control of where that

[34:28] motor puts down power and all these cars

[34:30] are going to start to run together when

[34:32] you don't have like a sound signature

[34:33] you don't have vibration you don't have

[34:35] all you're doing is like do i add more

[34:36] power and torque or do we take it away

[34:38] and how do we electronically control it

[34:40] and this last generation of these

[34:42] internal combustion engines

[34:44] is very much in that same boat you have

[34:46] all the complications of ice ice

[34:48] but then you have all electronic

[34:49] controls of it

[34:51] so it's like it's lost a huge huge part

[34:54] anyway all right so we'll get back do

[34:56] you have another question you want to

[34:57] answer

[34:57] all right so i'll pull this next one um

[35:00] this is from taylor robertson and taylor

[35:02] thank you so much for the 20

[35:03] donation supporting you guys has always

[35:05] missed your live streams i've settled on

[35:07] getting a veloster and getting one in

[35:09] two weeks

[35:10] any ideas on track deficiencies do i

[35:12] need a catch can a big brake kit

[35:14] will be dailied and tracked what pile

[35:17] was this

[35:17] of waste oh yeah that's what i thought

[35:20] no just

[35:22] do the um do a catch can if you're gonna

[35:25] drive it a lot and you're gonna track it

[35:27] that's just direct injection it's for

[35:29] your own benefit

[35:30] um and then just drain the thing every

[35:33] month

[35:34] or every oil change usually you'll know

[35:35] just check it more frequently

[35:37] drain the can if there's nothing in

[35:39] there and you just did attract date well

[35:41] you know you don't have to check it

[35:42] that's cheap insurance that

[35:44] the velociran has almost no serious

[35:47] cooling issues

[35:48] it doesn't have a lot of issues to begin

[35:50] with

[35:51] depending on how hard you are you're

[35:52] probably going to need real pads yes

[35:54] you're probably going to need real tires

[35:56] and real brake fluid like the typical

[35:58] stuff that you're going to do you're

[35:59] going to do on this car

[36:00] tires brake fluid and then plan for pads

[36:02] as you get better at driving it

[36:04] um and then you're going to want to i'm

[36:06] telling you right now

[36:07] i don't know what i think it's 530

[36:09] that's in there you don't want to use a

[36:10] high-end oil you're going to redline

[36:12] you're going to have this a group 5 oil

[36:14] doesn't matter which one you use a group

[36:16] 5

[36:17] synthetic and you're going to want to

[36:19] probably go up a weight

[36:20] if you're in a hot climate and you're

[36:21] tracking a lot so if it's i don't think

[36:23] it's 0

[36:24] 20. i don't remember but if it's 0 20

[36:26] you'd want to go up to a minimum of like

[36:27] 530.

[36:29] if it runs a 530 by default you could

[36:31] probably go to a 1030 because it raises

[36:33] the upper end

[36:34] temperature on the track uh before it

[36:36] thins out

[36:37] so like even though the the lower number

[36:39] like this is something i'm just gonna

[36:41] i don't even know why i'm saying this if

[36:43] you run a 530

[36:45] and you run a 10 30 even though that

[36:48] 30 is the same that the oil will thin

[36:51] out on the 530 at a higher temperature

[36:55] then the oil will thin out on a 10 30

[36:57] and that's because there's a trade-off

[36:59] in that base

[37:00] for cold weather that affects the high

[37:02] in temperatures and that's something

[37:03] that people don't get so

[37:04] if you're tracking it you're in the heat

[37:06] just go up get rid of

[37:08] get rid of that winter number bump that

[37:10] up so you have a higher temperature at

[37:11] the top

[37:12] and then protect yourself in the summer

[37:13] and if you're in a cold climate then

[37:14] move it back to like a 5

[37:16] 20 or a 5 30 in the winter that's all

[37:19] you know yeah and congratulations on

[37:21] your purchase

[37:22] yeah the velociram was a huge yeah it's

[37:25] hard to drive that was a lot of fun

[37:28] bataran 998 for five dollars hey y'all

[37:31] this is a question for you mark it

[37:32] involves lc 500 oh god

[37:34] i'm looking into buying an lc 500 used

[37:37] maybe

[37:37] 18 or 19 any options uh

[37:41] or do i need to be any any options i

[37:43] need to be looking for in one

[37:45] uh so it depends on what you're going to

[37:46] do the the straight answer is

[37:49] stay away from the 18s that's why

[37:51] they're so cheap

[37:52] there's nothing particularly wrong with

[37:53] them other than the suspension was

[37:55] messed up on them

[37:56] i said it in the video it rode like

[37:58] and i've had people contact me on the

[38:00] side

[38:01] like i've had a lot of people contact me

[38:02] on the side about this car

[38:04] i told them like look they're like how

[38:06] much of a deal

[38:08] is it the 18 to the 19 the suspension

[38:10] change i'm like go in it if you can go

[38:12] side by side that's when you'll

[38:13] appreciate it so i had one guy's like

[38:15] dude

[38:15] i couldn't believe how much of a

[38:17] difference it was in damping like

[38:18] softness and compliance between the 18

[38:20] and 19. the 18 felt like it was concrete

[38:22] the 19 is smoothed out so if you can

[38:24] find a 19 or a 20

[38:26] that's great the 21s are way way more

[38:28] expensive and it's even softer

[38:30] um but the only options are the

[38:33] performance pack which they just changed

[38:35] the dynamic handling package they

[38:36] rebranded it for 21

[38:38] but the performance pack on the 19s and

[38:40] 20s gives you rear wheel steering

[38:42] and then it gives you the carbon roof

[38:44] and a torso

[38:45] standard the performance pack is a huge

[38:48] difference if you're getting a coupe

[38:49] obviously you're getting a coupe at 19

[38:51] and 20. it makes a huge difference at

[38:53] making the car feel smaller than it is

[38:55] which means when you turn the wheel

[38:57] because it's got vgrs too so

[38:59] you turn past a certain point and the

[39:00] ratio changes it feels quicker

[39:02] that combined with the rear wheel

[39:04] steering it shrinks the car in about

[39:05] half

[39:06] and it just makes it way more nimble to

[39:08] drive if you're not beating the out

[39:10] of it like me

[39:11] like i don't ever drive that car normal

[39:14] you can get away with not getting that

[39:15] because you're going to save a lot of

[39:16] money and it's harder to find a

[39:17] performance back if all you're doing is

[39:19] going straight you want to listen to the

[39:20] engine and cruise down the road and

[39:22] you know just flog it you don't need the

[39:24] performance pack so that's

[39:26] that but if you're already spending the

[39:27] money i feel like just get the

[39:28] performance yeah if you can find it

[39:30] just spend the extra five grand or six

[39:32] grand or whatever the premium is now to

[39:34] get a used one

[39:35] um your it'll have a better resale value

[39:37] too i think if you go to flip it because

[39:39] there were more rare

[39:41] so the next question and again thank you

[39:43] for uh

[39:44] for asking then thanks for the donation

[39:46] um

[39:47] brian monroe for five dollars thank you

[39:49] for the donation

[39:50] paul 2k hey guys met you at audubon a

[39:53] few weeks ago on track

[39:54] would you rather have a modified s2000

[39:57] or a stock gt350

[39:59] driving the s is worse than my back but

[40:01] i'm worried i will regret selling it

[40:04] so you're an s2000 owner and i adore the

[40:07] 350.

[40:08] um you know the s2000s now are worth an

[40:11] unbelievable amount of money

[40:13] yeah yeah this is the problem that i had

[40:15] because i just tracked the s2000

[40:17] like what am i probably at the strategy

[40:20] yeah and i

[40:20] i drove it and i instantly felt bad

[40:23] i felt bad because i know it's harder to

[40:26] get these cars now i never thought like

[40:27] this

[40:28] the car is in such good shape you know

[40:30] it's like everything is finally set up

[40:32] on it it feels good it just

[40:34] it's such an enjoyable car to drive and

[40:36] then i'm sitting there like we were

[40:37] doing it we did a 30 minute session

[40:39] and the clutch failed at the end of it

[40:41] because it's something but it was also

[40:43] so old it's not even the car's not even

[40:45] modified the clutch is just tired and

[40:46] i'm sitting here thinking i just drove

[40:47] this thing for 30 minutes beat the

[40:49] out of it

[40:50] i'm like for what i mean it's fun to

[40:52] drive but it's not like i'm racing or

[40:54] anything and it just like

[40:56] that to me now that car has become a

[40:58] collectible to me and yes i enjoy

[41:00] driving it's one of the best driving

[41:02] cars on the track

[41:03] modified it's even better but there's

[41:06] this progression

[41:07] to get that car to be fast you have to

[41:09] go through the suspension

[41:11] the tires and once you get to that place

[41:13] where you have all that set up then

[41:14] you're doing bushings

[41:15] alignment stuff ball joints you're doing

[41:18] reinforcements and then the biggest

[41:19] problem is is arrow

[41:20] you'll hit a wall and that's where my

[41:22] car is at you get in higher speed

[41:24] sweepers and no matter how much grip you

[41:26] have that car is

[41:27] lifting and that back end is kind of

[41:28] always moving around and it's slowing

[41:30] you down and you're like

[41:32] now i got to do a splitter now i gotta

[41:34] do these big ass wings i gotta do a hard

[41:36] top all this and really at the end

[41:38] of the day

[41:39] it's not making it that much difference

[41:41] unless you're really going out there to

[41:42] compete in some type of time trial

[41:44] and it just

[41:45] to me it's not worth it if you're going

[41:47] to go out there and you're going to

[41:48] want to go fast just get a gt350 if you

[41:51] want to keep the s2000

[41:53] keep it don't really ruin it with stuff

[41:55] because it doesn't make it

[41:56] all that much better and your the value

[41:58] of it's going to be much higher

[42:00] so he currently has and has 2 000.

[42:03] and i would keep it dude if your s2000

[42:05] isn't totally just

[42:07] annihilated or ruined yeah if it's

[42:09] totally if you already have it screwed

[42:10] up and it's got like 150

[42:12] 000 miles on it just just go go for it

[42:15] just modify the hell out of it but i

[42:16] mean if it's in a

[42:17] if it's a really good example and

[42:18] there's hasn't been just keep it and

[42:20] hold on to it it's going to be worth a

[42:21] lot of money

[42:22] yeah just stuff it make the peace with

[42:24] the fact that it's going to sit

[42:26] and you're going to keep it as an

[42:27] investment and then go and spend the

[42:29] money on a gt350

[42:31] and drive that because that car has a

[42:33] lot of the specialness

[42:34] of the s2000 specifically great engine

[42:36] good gear yes no it's amazing

[42:38] uh long block for ten dollars hey guys

[42:40] just letting you know i bought an nc

[42:42] miata because of your documentary i want

[42:43] to autocross any suggestions to get into

[42:46] it

[42:46] love your work don't overwork yourselves

[42:48] and stay safe well thanks long blog

[42:50] um thank you i guess do you want to

[42:52] start off with just tires and alignment

[42:54] and listen to people listen to people go

[42:57] out there to a miata club and you're

[42:58] going to get

[42:59] an earful and you're probably going to

[43:01] be like why did i do this

[43:02] but they will tell you exactly what

[43:04] works and doesn't work and it's been

[43:06] the thing is with the miata is

[43:08] everything that could possibly be done

[43:10] has already been done to that car so

[43:11] don't

[43:12] reinvent the wheel you can go out to

[43:13] autocross and find national drivers that

[43:15] can get

[43:16] a lot out of nothing and it's a

[43:18] different mindset so if you're expecting

[43:20] this is something we've experienced

[43:22] when you have some hardcore miata set up

[43:24] for autocross it makes a really shitty

[43:26] street car or track car because all it

[43:28] does is wants to loop

[43:29] itself to be fast in an autocross the

[43:31] car's got to rotate

[43:32] unnaturally rotate and you've got to

[43:34] figure out how to get that through these

[43:36] tight corners

[43:37] so by making it a great autocross car

[43:39] often makes it really shitty and

[43:40] unstable or ride bad on the street

[43:43] and makes it like sometimes outright

[43:46] dangerous on the track so

[43:47] find a balance and find out what you're

[43:49] happy with driving it but really

[43:51] tires in an alignment are just that's so

[43:53] simple and you can get a lot out of that

[43:55] and your best investment is actually oh

[43:58] suing yourself

[43:59] so yeah you need you need real tires

[44:01] autocross to have any kind of yeah

[44:03] but once you start modifying the

[44:04] suspension everything you know

[44:06] i almost feel like now having done that

[44:09] to two of my cars in the past my

[44:11] my brz was you know modified and so was

[44:13] my mustang

[44:14] in retrospect at that age i rather spent

[44:17] the money going to a driving school

[44:19] or x y and z because i learned way more

[44:21] at a driving school than i learned after

[44:23] a certain point just auto crossing right

[44:25] yeah yeah you need that that

[44:27] professional help from someone who isn't

[44:28] just some guy who's good at auto

[44:30] crossing to get you to the next level

[44:32] understanding car control and

[44:33] all that other fun stuff so yeah and

[44:34] this gets preachy and

[44:36] you know it just depends on who you are

[44:38] and where you're at in your life and

[44:39] some people really like to tinker

[44:41] they just want to mess with stuff just

[44:42] to mess with stuff and i think for me i

[44:44] went through that part and i know

[44:46] exactly what i can tolerate in terms of

[44:48] suspension setup on my cars i know what

[44:51] will make a difference

[44:52] and make a noticeable difference without

[44:54] that diminishing returns

[44:56] so if you take an older car and it's 20

[44:58] years old

[44:59] and you have 20 year old dampers on it

[45:01] let's be honest

[45:02] those dampers are old technology they're

[45:04] that in terms of oil it might have leaks

[45:07] the steel stiction might be bad in it uh

[45:09] getting a new set of dampers is going to

[45:11] help that car a lot

[45:12] you know so there's there's ways to

[45:16] modify

[45:16] by being smart and i think a lot of

[45:18] people go to this extreme and get caught

[45:20] up in the

[45:21] like matt from obsessed garage he's like

[45:23] oh dude i got to just buy this and

[45:24] it's like

[45:25] dude what are you doing he's just buying

[45:27] it for the parts and that's fine

[45:29] if you know what you're doing with that

[45:30] but if you're buying parts hoping that

[45:32] it's going to make some

[45:34] huge like uh change in your life

[45:37] it's not no and it's just you're going

[45:39] to go out there and some guy with a

[45:40] stock car that's rolling

[45:42] all over the place is going to be faster

[45:44] than you work on

[45:45] the basics first and work from there uh

[45:48] next question

[45:50] uh from kevin c and this is actually i

[45:51] like this question a lot thanks kevin

[45:53] for the five dollars

[45:54] do you have a top three favorite funny

[45:57] comments from youtube or instagram saved

[45:58] in the archive

[45:59] if not all good i i don't and this is a

[46:02] video that i wanted to make just as a

[46:04] stupid one maybe a wednesday video

[46:05] because

[46:06] our viewers or obviously you guys

[46:10] and girls and in between are really

[46:14] amazing intelligent in a lot of ways

[46:16] there's i mean if it's like anything

[46:17] like social media there's going to be

[46:18] like garbage can stuff but

[46:20] there's a high level of perception of

[46:23] reality

[46:24] self-awareness sarcasm and some of these

[46:27] comments are hilarious

[46:29] yeah for some of these comments and i

[46:31] really appreciate them even if they're

[46:32] like

[46:33] horrifically offensive to me or like you

[46:36] know

[46:36] degrading yeah they make you guys tear

[46:38] us new all the time yeah

[46:40] and it's amazing it is so funny you and

[46:42] i will send us stuff

[46:43] yeah send each other stuff and we always

[46:45] laugh about it we're so lucky

[46:47] yeah no and i love a great dig

[46:50] that is well thought out like if you can

[46:52] really think out a way to make well

[46:54] not just to make fun of somebody but to

[46:57] make craftfully dig at something that's

[46:59] wrong

[46:59] or like a problem you know that that

[47:02] shows

[47:02] great initiative

[47:04] [Laughter]

[47:07] um yeah no actually that came up while i

[47:10] was at this toyota hq event so last week

[47:12] i went to uh plano texas mark had to

[47:15] play you know

[47:16] had dad duty family responsibilities and

[47:18] we can do back-to-back trips

[47:20] so i went and i talked to some of the

[47:21] other members of the press and even from

[47:23] some of the other outlets and

[47:24] shout out to matt moran motoring even he

[47:27] brought up like man you guys you have a

[47:29] you have an amazing viewing audience

[47:31] because you you guys are funny genuinely

[47:33] a better sense of humor than you than we

[47:35] do mark i

[47:36] i i would say that's probably the case

[47:39] i i think some of it is doing this

[47:43] when i started doing this i wanted a

[47:45] channel

[47:46] or videos that in my

[47:49] sensibilities so part of making these

[47:51] videos was

[47:52] i subbed to savage keys and my iq went

[47:55] up to 70. nice room temperature iq

[47:57] yeah your credit score went up to 340.

[48:00] um

[48:01] i i wanted something that was like

[48:05] funny and relatable and grounded in

[48:07] reality

[48:09] so i wanted to do that when i started

[48:11] this but of course when you start trying

[48:12] to do something for real or a business

[48:15] you have to to kind of like scale it

[48:17] back because you know

[48:18] like you couldn't get away with this

[48:19] in a real job i couldn't just be

[48:21] like

[48:22] oh you larry you know like you go

[48:24] to your boss slap him on the ass

[48:26] like you have to be smart about how you

[48:28] make the content and i like the fact

[48:30] that a lot of the viewers can come in

[48:31] the comments

[48:32] and say stuff that i can no longer say

[48:34] tactfully so it's fun

[48:37] uh next question from low strike for

[48:40] five dollars

[48:41] how are inventories at dealers out by

[48:43] you my local chevy

[48:45] had zero new cars on their lot toyota

[48:47] had 10 camry's and a couple of ravs

[48:49] thoughts well we started talking about

[48:51] this james who works at the mazda

[48:53] dealership us and he brought this up

[48:54] he's like how the hell are we going to

[48:56] survive

[48:56] that wasn't really his comment but like

[48:58] what are dealerships going to do

[49:00] if they don't have cars to sell and i

[49:02] mean it's the same problem that a lot of

[49:04] markets are having right now with supply

[49:06] and supply chain

[49:07] issues um and the straight answer is

[49:10] like our inventory is really low it's a

[49:12] low everywhere ours is low

[49:14] um i think our lots like certain

[49:16] dealerships like the ones in the smaller

[49:18] areas

[49:18] like mchenry dude like you went by

[49:21] i think it was sunny side or sun

[49:23] sunshine uh

[49:25] dodge i was like where i bought one of

[49:27] my first cars yeah they had decimated

[49:30] decimated so if you're a big dealer

[49:32] you're going to survive because you're

[49:33] going to get allocated more and little

[49:35] dealers

[49:35] like yeah yeah exactly

[49:38] this is from exhaust sports auto so you

[49:41] know it's going to be a good question yo

[49:42] bro

[49:42] should i sell my yacht for a v12 ferrari

[49:45] in this market

[49:47] well we have we have a lot of business

[49:48] contacts you owe us favors like we just

[49:51] shot

[49:51] the tlx video on a helicopter yeah i

[49:54] shot the

[49:55] so i have a buddy who flies helicopters

[49:58] and i pulled him out of some deep debt

[50:00] like 25 years ago so i basically

[50:03] subsidized his family

[50:04] you know i helped his wife have a kid so

[50:08] he owes me a lot of money so we filmed

[50:12] out of his helicopter with my iphone

[50:14] and uh we got some great shots it was

[50:15] just incredible and he was

[50:17] he couldn't say anything you know i ran

[50:19] him out of fuel a couple times because i

[50:20] wanted him to fly me over some of the

[50:22] the local lakes

[50:23] there was a beach that was near there

[50:25] and there was a lot of people on the

[50:26] beach and i'm like i was with my

[50:27] binoculars i'm just like just hover over

[50:28] here i want to have a look at

[50:29] the sand and he's like dude we got to

[50:31] refill again it cost him like six grand

[50:33] i'm like

[50:34] you know there's a lot of other things

[50:35] i've done for everybody so

[50:38] yeah this is only about three things

[50:40] helicopters

[50:41] beers boats and bands sorry four things

[50:45] boats and babes and beaches

[50:49] there's a place by us and i told jack

[50:51] about this the other day

[50:52] and it's like uh so let's preface this

[50:55] you and i have come from a much

[50:56] different background

[50:57] and you're trying to culture me we went

[50:59] to a place called wonder lake recently

[51:01] not that recently a couple months ago

[51:03] it's like jack i gotta take you to this

[51:05] place

[51:05] of course this per usual

[51:07] whenever we go to a place that is

[51:09] interesting we always go in a hyper

[51:11] expensive car

[51:12] that's not why i wanted to go there but

[51:15] it just happened to be like hey we were

[51:16] driving around filming in that area i'm

[51:18] like dude we're right here

[51:20] you've never been here before i want to

[51:22] show you like

[51:23] the what real people like lit like how

[51:26] this area is out here so picture like

[51:28] flint

[51:29] uh flint michigan from like mike

[51:32] whatever that documentary you know like

[51:35] decimated little town no it was it's not

[51:37] that bad dude it's just a world

[51:39] it's not robocop's detroit but it wasn't

[51:40] great it's not like an industrial it's

[51:42] just a small like rural town

[51:44] in the town where that they would call

[51:45] me the oriental like that kind of thing

[51:47] yeah exactly so

[51:48] you drive in and there was an outdoor

[51:50] wrestling match and of course this guy

[51:51] and i are this lc convertible

[51:53] looking like two douche bags yeah do you

[51:55] have that picture uh

[51:57] uh let me find it uh yeah so like i'm

[52:00] like jack you just have to see this to

[52:01] understand the area that we live in

[52:03] and it's not a negative thing it's just

[52:05] the reality that

[52:07] you know we get in this zone of the

[52:10] things that we do

[52:11] and you you lose connection with the

[52:13] people around you a lot of times

[52:15] and like we know i've know people that

[52:19] have lived there and

[52:20] it's one of those you live in this town

[52:22] and you don't get out and the people

[52:23] like jesus i'm never gonna get out of

[52:25] this town i went to school with them and

[52:26] i'm like dude

[52:27] they taught me early on in my teenage

[52:29] years i'm like i can't do this

[52:31] i can't do this dude i'm like i'm not

[52:33] gonna be that i'm not gonna do that

[52:35] and i don't i it's so crazy to me

[52:40] that people like this stuff is like

[52:43] going on still

[52:44] and that's all that's like that's the

[52:46] main and this answers our question about

[52:48] why he should sell his yacht

[52:50] why for a v12 ferrari right like getting

[52:52] this back to

[52:53] exhaust sports autos questions sorry

[52:55] yeah

[52:57] all right we'll go to the next question

[53:00] just sell your yacht

[53:01] buy a couple ferraris yeah uh dominic

[53:04] mitri thank you for the five dollars

[53:07] uh uh ecorp

[53:10] for ten dollars what are your thoughts

[53:12] on the cts ct

[53:14] 5v blackwing for find hellcat fun m5 or

[53:18] something else also

[53:19] why can we get the cattle why can the

[53:21] cadillac have a manual but not the

[53:22] corvette

[53:24] all right mark tell me you're a caddy

[53:26] man uh

[53:29] it's a good question yeah i know you've

[53:32] given like

[53:32] zero percent thought right when that

[53:34] thing was being released i

[53:36] messaged you the cadillac's not met

[53:37] engine yeah i know i mean obviously

[53:40] the first part of it what do you think

[53:41] about the car is it exciting that gm

[53:42] made a manual v8

[53:44] every time cadillac makes a v8 rear

[53:47] wheel drive car

[53:48] everybody's excited for five minutes and

[53:50] no one buys it yeah and then it

[53:52] we we have it on the channel like five

[53:53] years later when the car is like 25 000

[53:56] and you're like wow that's a pretty good

[53:57] deal i mean they they could have

[54:01] the thing is the reason why they

[54:03] couldn't fit a manual trans and the

[54:04] the vet is just they didn't want to

[54:06] spend the money to package it there's no

[54:08] return for them to do it with the

[54:10] cadillac it's

[54:11] it's the only thing that's going to get

[54:12] it to sell yeah a differentiator

[54:15] i had this conversation with you about

[54:16] supra and a couple other

[54:18] cars and i got in disagreement with the

[54:19] journalists so sports cars exist

[54:22] for brands particularly brands that

[54:24] bread and butter is in sports cars like

[54:26] toyota

[54:27] to get people excited and go to their

[54:29] dealership that's just a marketing tool

[54:31] so for cars like that

[54:33] um the corvette they sell so many of

[54:35] them they're gonna sell them with an

[54:36] automatic or without one

[54:38] so it doesn't really matter but smaller

[54:39] boutique cars i think it makes sense to

[54:41] have a manual option

[54:42] because this is a pr win you can't

[54:44] advertise it so i'm sure that's what

[54:46] cadillac is doing it's like look

[54:47] not only did we build a super sedan we

[54:49] built one with the manual and then no

[54:50] one's going to buy it with a manual

[54:52] but i think that's why they did that

[54:53] well yeah i mean some of it's probably a

[54:56] test

[54:57] you know to see what the market is since

[54:59] there's not a lot of manuals left maybe

[55:00] the take rate will be higher

[55:02] i don't know i mean personally it's i

[55:05] need to drive it like that's

[55:06] i don't get excited for cars until i

[55:07] drive them and the take right

[55:09] to his uh his point for the corvette was

[55:12] abysmal

[55:13] i had to fly i live we live in the

[55:15] midwest and when i bought my corvette

[55:16] new i had to fly all the way to new

[55:18] jersey to find

[55:20] one with a manual and you would want it

[55:22] you didn't want just a regular

[55:24] poor man c8 or c7 you had to have the

[55:26] grand

[55:28] the grandy sport but you know what i

[55:30] mean like the take rate was so low

[55:32] yeah so and now people would kill for

[55:35] that car yeah those cars have gone up in

[55:37] value like crazy for no real reason

[55:39] uh will matt for five dollars thank you

[55:41] will what's the best high performance

[55:43] suv

[55:44] with the germans and without the germans

[55:48] huh so what's that suv my brain just

[55:52] went blank uh so what's the best high

[55:54] performance suv

[55:56] probably a porsche or porsche

[55:59] thanks for stroking yeah i agree yeah i

[56:00] mean what else what you got to go to

[56:02] like the

[56:02] see the thing is all the best performing

[56:04] suvs are on the same

[56:06] architecture so it's the same car mlb

[56:08] evo

[56:09] yeah so it's like the eris the what is

[56:12] it the

[56:13] cayenne sq7 sq7

[56:16] is different because that's a three row

[56:18] personally if it was me

[56:20] i would have an sq7 500 horsepower

[56:23] ton of space great v8 great v8 great

[56:27] transmission it just doesn't look all

[56:28] that great

[56:29] so that's your best usable one and then

[56:31] you get into like the dodge piles like

[56:33] the durango

[56:35] and the hellcat that would be amazing

[56:37] the i will say the durango hellcat

[56:40] yes if you drove it like you were going

[56:42] to go to jail like literally doing 100

[56:44] miles an hour in a 55 zone driving like

[56:46] an everywhere like you have no

[56:47] penis

[56:48] just totally trying to get you trying to

[56:50] grow a penis

[56:53] then it's it's incredible you can drive

[56:55] that thing like a baboon

[56:56] and it's so satisfying it's the most fun

[57:00] but it's also a total piece of well

[57:02] i i wouldn't say it's a piece of

[57:03] but i mean it's like

[57:04] it's in a different class of vehicles

[57:06] karen my girlfriend got into this thing

[57:08] and you were

[57:09] we were in your driveway we were talking

[57:10] about like why the hell would you buy

[57:12] this thing and you and i are like

[57:13] giggling like idiots well i don't know

[57:16] that it's it's definitely a testosterone

[57:18] infused and that's what makes it fun and

[57:20] different i mean

[57:21] every other like we talked about if you

[57:23] want a performance suv you're trapped in

[57:24] that german web

[57:26] yeah something from bw right

[57:28] because the x3m isn't good

[57:29] that's too stiff uh the stelvio is

[57:32] interesting but it's never going to work

[57:34] yeah right you're going to be getting

[57:35] that thing fixed a lot the quadriplegic

[57:37] yeah the x5m

[57:40] that's probably pushing one of the

[57:42] better ones too but it doesn't have the

[57:44] personality i don't think

[57:45] i i don't know i mean i can't believe

[57:48] we're talking about this dude

[57:49] performance suvs apex i mean but there's

[57:51] so many now like you

[57:53] you talk about the rdx for a suv that's

[57:56] sporty

[57:57] under 50 000 is the best driving yeah

[58:00] it's amazing

[58:01] and it like you think about these cars

[58:03] and i

[58:04] had this problem with the tlx when we

[58:06] drove at the type s i'm like you know

[58:08] back seats are small not that i put

[58:11] anything what do you like 75 years old

[58:12] but the back seats are too small

[58:15] you're like my dad the acoustics of this

[58:16] cabin yeah i can't listen to my master's

[58:19] subpar the reflections off the

[58:22] hard plastic and the upper dashes

[58:24] beneath me

[58:26] no i'm just sitting there driving this

[58:27] thing i'm like i just could use a lot

[58:28] more space and i'm like why i don't put

[58:30] anything here

[58:32] and that's that's what's happening you

[58:34] know that's that's the reality

[58:36] well this guy gets hot in bothering when

[58:37] he sees minivans the pacifica s

[58:39] i have kind of i've cooled off to that

[58:41] recently you were the biggest boner over

[58:43] those things

[58:44] when we went to the gladiator launch i'm

[58:45] like oh man oh god i mean

[58:47] let's be real would you get more excited

[58:49] about pacifica s or a gladiator and for

[58:51] me it's like i'd rather be in the

[58:52] minivan

[58:55] um all right sentience psn thank you

[58:58] very much for the five dollars

[59:00] master the hell's that

[59:03] mikeder miketer for five dollars thank

[59:05] you very much

[59:06] use trucks what's going on crazier than

[59:10] insane used cars prices i will have to

[59:12] expect to pay

[59:13] 28 000 or more for a used tacoma with 90

[59:16] 000 miles yeah it said

[59:18] uh greg just in the chat he posted

[59:21] his uh offer on his forerunner and it

[59:23] was like crazy

[59:24] like his offer for it was like really

[59:27] high and the thing's like five years old

[59:28] i mean this is what's happening so

[59:30] if you have to get a car you're

[59:33] basically stuck buying one

[59:34] you're gonna eat right now i mean

[59:36] if you can wait if you have something

[59:38] you want to sell and sell it and then

[59:40] stuff the money for when prices come

[59:41] back down to earth

[59:42] that's what i would do but i wouldn't be

[59:44] actively trying to buy something

[59:46] yeah that's again that's what i told her

[59:49] sisters like don't buy right now just

[59:50] hold on to the tucson

[59:51] yeah so next question for united newbies

[59:55] what's the most reliable fun luxury

[59:57] sports car under 30 to 70 thousand

[59:59] dollars that's a huge range

[1:00:00] what do you mean by msrp is too high

[1:00:11] oh man dude that's 30 to 70 is a

[1:00:14] big big price yeah you're looking at

[1:00:16] like the

[1:00:17] uh i think you're looking at the

[1:00:18] quadrifoglio you're looking out he said

[1:00:21] reliable oh reliable and fun you can

[1:00:24] count alfa romeo out immediately yeah

[1:00:26] well yeah

[1:00:27] i mean fun probably g70

[1:00:30] g uh g80 is not all that great

[1:00:34] um f80 m3 with the warranty final manual

[1:00:37] final years that car is great here's my

[1:00:39] choice

[1:00:40] and i'm not a bmw person but that's it

[1:00:42] let's just leave it at that f80 m3

[1:00:44] manual transmission just get the crank

[1:00:45] up issue fixed and it's pretty bomb

[1:00:47] proof

[1:00:48] and then just put seven thousand pound

[1:00:50] lowering springs on

[1:00:51] that that drop you buy make sure it's

[1:00:53] white yeah make sure it's white

[1:00:54] yup with some type of like matte wrapped

[1:00:57] panels or something carbon fiber

[1:00:59] splitter

[1:01:00] just go full slav mode yeah only play

[1:01:02] eurobeat yeah subwoofer mounted on the

[1:01:04] exterior of the car

[1:01:06] um hopefully that answers your honestly

[1:01:08] the new fa the f80 generation bmws

[1:01:11] are pretty reliable and they're way more

[1:01:13] fun than like a gsf

[1:01:15] you're good oh yeah i mean the gsf is

[1:01:17] like they're that's

[1:01:18] you're going to pay up the ass for a gsf

[1:01:20] we were talking about that the other day

[1:01:21] i'm like that's like a 60 70

[1:01:23] 000 car i'm sorry like i was in the

[1:01:25] market for one i'm like nah

[1:01:27] not paying that kind of money for it i

[1:01:28] mean it's a great car it's gonna last

[1:01:30] forever yeah that car was forty thousand

[1:01:31] dollars

[1:01:32] sorry tell me about isf prices they are

[1:01:34] insane right now

[1:01:35] for no reason right now but that's every

[1:01:37] car

[1:01:38] like i mean that's the thing is

[1:01:39] everything's inflated so it's like yeah

[1:01:42] not happening yeah one of our

[1:01:45] our viewers said gsf or f-80 i'm like i

[1:01:47] agree with you the motor sounds way

[1:01:49] better in the gsf but

[1:01:51] objectively if you strip away the engine

[1:01:53] can't you get an f-80 for cheaper than a

[1:01:55] gsf right yeah you can

[1:01:56] so that's that's the thing if you're

[1:01:57] looking for the here and now not to keep

[1:01:59] you know you have it for three years

[1:02:00] with a warranty you're gonna have a lot

[1:02:02] more fun with the f-80

[1:02:03] but if you can get a gsf which you're

[1:02:05] not gonna find one for like a reasonable

[1:02:07] price

[1:02:08] i mean unless all you're doing is

[1:02:10] cruising and you want that v8 and you

[1:02:12] want the toyota alexis reliability but

[1:02:14] if you want to go out and have fun

[1:02:15] you're gonna have way more fun

[1:02:16] you're not gonna take a juice off to

[1:02:17] attractive no you're not you're

[1:02:19] definitely

[1:02:20] not and someone mentioned 2016 is no

[1:02:23] different than the 2020

[1:02:24] yes and no they did do running

[1:02:26] reliability changes to the

[1:02:28] uh gsf you said what year do they have

[1:02:29] diff problems no that was the rc

[1:02:32] the original torsions and the rcfs had

[1:02:35] problems and then they fixed it later

[1:02:37] the gsfs really didn't have that much

[1:02:39] changes other than the suspension

[1:02:41] i think i did a video on the 2019 the

[1:02:44] only gsf video i have i talk about the

[1:02:46] running changes that they made and i

[1:02:47] think it was like suspension tuning

[1:02:49] because that's what they mostly evolve

[1:02:50] larry lampshade for five dollars what

[1:02:52] are your thoughts on the haldex

[1:02:53] all-wheel drive systems golf r seems to

[1:02:55] check a lot of boxes for me

[1:02:57] but i'm concerned about it being so

[1:02:58] front wheel drive centric i am not

[1:03:00] a vw person at all i'm not a golf person

[1:03:04] but i appreciate the golf r it is way

[1:03:07] better than the gti

[1:03:08] because it gives you that ability to

[1:03:10] just stop

[1:03:12] terminally understeering when you're

[1:03:13] driving like a dick it doesn't

[1:03:16] completely remove it but it makes it at

[1:03:18] least

[1:03:18] 50 to 75 percent better so if you want

[1:03:21] better dynamics you get the golf r and

[1:03:23] you'll be happy you did it

[1:03:24] um and i drove the out of both

[1:03:26] those cars you can't get rid of the

[1:03:28] understeer stuff with the golf r but the

[1:03:30] only time you're gonna notice it is like

[1:03:31] in an autocross does it feel super front

[1:03:33] wheel drivey

[1:03:34] in in autocross when you're in a tight

[1:03:36] stuff but when you're on a real

[1:03:37] road back roads or like you're not gonna

[1:03:40] take it to a track but

[1:03:41] anything that's not like oh i'm turning

[1:03:43] over the wheel

[1:03:44] if you're just making subtle turns

[1:03:45] sweepers like regular road stuff it's

[1:03:47] amazing to drive you feel like you're

[1:03:49] god in it

[1:03:50] it is a very competent system it is and

[1:03:52] the extra horsepower helps it just

[1:03:54] it's a great car all the way around it

[1:03:56] just obviously to me that's not my style

[1:03:58] of car it's too

[1:03:59] uh plain vanilla for me is it better or

[1:04:02] worse in the system that's in the sh

[1:04:03] all-wheel drive

[1:04:05] because that's another front-wheel drive

[1:04:06] based uh all-wheel drive system that's

[1:04:09] similar

[1:04:10] the acid the sh is better because you

[1:04:12] have a torque vectoring differential so

[1:04:14] you can

[1:04:14] send power to the left or the right

[1:04:16] where the hell decks can't

[1:04:18] it can't do that to that level you know

[1:04:21] you're dealing with wet clutches instead

[1:04:22] of having a clutch and a

[1:04:24] you know be able to send power to each

[1:04:26] wheel like in the sage so the sh

[1:04:28] feels can feel way more rear-wheel drive

[1:04:31] in some cases

[1:04:32] than the hell decks can but again it

[1:04:34] depends on how you drive if you're not a

[1:04:36] monkey

[1:04:37] you might not never notice it yeah if

[1:04:38] you're not genuinely going

[1:04:40] flat out rj cam for five dollars mark

[1:04:43] what model number of your ray-bans

[1:04:45] what's the model number of your ray-ban

[1:04:46] frames

[1:04:47] i have no idea uh i'll look and write

[1:04:50] tell you right now if

[1:04:51] there's even anything on here

[1:04:55] well i honestly i don't know

[1:04:58] but they're carbon one of the carbon

[1:05:01] frames

[1:05:01] so there's probably only like a handful

[1:05:03] of them just

[1:05:05] take a picture and take it in your eye

[1:05:09] glassware and what i told you i'll tell

[1:05:11] you another story about

[1:05:12] gregart this is classic and i'm sorry

[1:05:15] nobody knows who he is but uh guy's

[1:05:17] amazing he needed glasses

[1:05:19] so he went into i think the lens

[1:05:21] crafters it doesn't matter oh is this

[1:05:22] the story that i'm thinking yeah

[1:05:24] so he's like getting fitted for his is

[1:05:26] like getting fitted and

[1:05:28] she's like oh have you thought about

[1:05:30] frames do you have any designers you'd

[1:05:32] like and he's like

[1:05:33] yeah i want to try the jeffrey dahmer's

[1:05:36] she's like oh i don't think we have

[1:05:37] those

[1:05:38] it's she goes and asks her manager and

[1:05:40] then she didn't come back

[1:05:41] and then the manager the dude came over

[1:05:43] and helped him because he thought he was

[1:05:45] a total

[1:05:46] serial killer

[1:05:49] obviously he wasn't serious he was just

[1:05:50] being sarcastic but it didn't go over

[1:05:52] while i'm like some 19 year old girl

[1:05:58] yeah so all right next question

[1:06:02] uh mopar 92 for 20 dollars since

[1:06:05] stolantis has

[1:06:06] given all the former fca brand 10 years

[1:06:08] to figure themselves out

[1:06:10] do you think the next pile from dodge

[1:06:11] will be a performance suv or can we

[1:06:13] finally see the next generation of

[1:06:14] charger and challengers

[1:06:16] i don't know i honestly i don't know

[1:06:18] either i don't know that that's a tough

[1:06:20] one for me dude i think

[1:06:22] um i think they were originally gonna do

[1:06:26] it on the alpha platform and now

[1:06:28] you thought that they were gonna scrap

[1:06:30] it i had heard rumors

[1:06:32] from stalantis internally and i can't

[1:06:35] verify this and

[1:06:37] uh but something about the julia

[1:06:39] platform not being able to be

[1:06:41] fully e-vehified

[1:06:44] or is hurting the chances of them moving

[1:06:47] the charger challenger to that

[1:06:48] architecture

[1:06:49] so i don't actually know also if you

[1:06:51] think about it

[1:06:53] from the viewer's perspective and just

[1:06:55] internally we know how company

[1:06:56] corporate cultures work now you're

[1:06:58] adding the french

[1:07:00] italians and americans all work together

[1:07:02] on a global platform

[1:07:03] i have no idea what they're gonna offer

[1:07:05] but you know that project's gonna be a

[1:07:07] nightmare

[1:07:08] i don't know what they're gonna do and

[1:07:10] frankly i stopped caring

[1:07:12] i mean yeah a little bit i feel like

[1:07:14] they they've delayed the inevitable for

[1:07:16] so long

[1:07:17] when they talked about the challenger

[1:07:18] and charger getting updated

[1:07:21] they they like we're not gonna do it

[1:07:22] because we're not ready to do it

[1:07:24] we can't do it like they've had a long

[1:07:27] time to evolve their stuff and they've

[1:07:28] chosen

[1:07:29] to stick with what works and even when

[1:07:31] we talk to the engineers they're like

[1:07:33] well you know we're different and we're

[1:07:36] gonna stick with what we're good at

[1:07:38] but now the hellcat motor is no longer

[1:07:40] emissions compliant

[1:07:41] and you and i both love hellcat powered

[1:07:44] stellantis vehicles

[1:07:45] they're incredible they're right they

[1:07:47] they're able to do certain things

[1:07:48] amazing and

[1:07:50] i wouldn't trade it for anything once

[1:07:51] you strip that away but from a business

[1:07:53] perspective when you don't evolve your

[1:07:55] products

[1:07:56] outside of that box or you either i

[1:07:59] don't know what it is i don't know if

[1:08:00] it's money it's management it's

[1:08:02] called corporate culture that's blocking

[1:08:04] it but they

[1:08:05] they should have evolved into a

[1:08:07] different framework by now and we

[1:08:09] haven't seen it

[1:08:10] so i don't know what they're going to do

[1:08:11] i'm sure they're going to have they're

[1:08:13] going to like they said they're going to

[1:08:14] ev everything

[1:08:15] how they do that good luck

[1:08:18] you know what i mean yeah they're making

[1:08:20] brand images

[1:08:22] horsepower loud va yeah you know

[1:08:25] why people love their cars i i think

[1:08:28] they're going to have a soul-searching

[1:08:30] identity crisis here really shortly

[1:08:32] and it's not for the lack of trying the

[1:08:34] new durango interior is great

[1:08:36] no they're updated i mean i will give

[1:08:39] them that

[1:08:40] it's just in terms of the costly stuff

[1:08:42] they they were going to move the

[1:08:44] chargers and challengers to that alpha

[1:08:46] platform that was the plan and

[1:08:47] they put it off they like they had that

[1:08:49] opportunity like five or six years ago

[1:08:51] so i i don't know i don't know what

[1:08:53] their long-term game is

[1:08:55] and again i think it's suvs like every

[1:08:57] brand oh yeah i mean if they can ev

[1:08:59] a ram or ev some of their suvs

[1:09:03] i don't think that's a problem but are

[1:09:05] they going to be able to do that do they

[1:09:06] have the resources to do that

[1:09:09] most of the other brands are already

[1:09:10] tied up within exclusivity contracts on

[1:09:12] battery packs

[1:09:13] all that other stuff and i haven't heard

[1:09:15] anything about them doing that yeah but

[1:09:17] either that's not ideal for them but

[1:09:19] oh well moving on sadly uh five windows

[1:09:22] for 11 54. thank you five windows thank

[1:09:25] you five windows

[1:09:26] overall do you find mid-engine

[1:09:28] performance car suspension more refined

[1:09:29] than front engine equivalents

[1:09:31] i've heard this due to the fact that

[1:09:32] there's more space for better suspension

[1:09:34] components around the wheels true or not

[1:09:37] well there's one that comes to mind that

[1:09:39] didn't

[1:09:40] that was the 4c they ran out of room in

[1:09:42] the

[1:09:44] i can't remember it was the front the

[1:09:46] front they ran out of room in the front

[1:09:47] suspension to do

[1:09:49] the geometry the way that they wanted um

[1:09:52] i think packaging wise it's harder to do

[1:09:55] suspension

[1:09:56] in a mid-engine car because you have

[1:09:58] less room in the back

[1:10:00] and you have all the weight to manage so

[1:10:01] that's an expensive platform to do

[1:10:03] because you can't scale out a med engine

[1:10:05] car

[1:10:06] engine cars that dynamically are better

[1:10:07] than front engine cars technically yeah

[1:10:10] yeah i mean they should be if they're

[1:10:11] done right do you think they ride better

[1:10:14] as a general rule

[1:10:15] the problem is all mid-engine cars other

[1:10:16] than the c8 well we don't have

[1:10:18] mainstream mid-engine cars

[1:10:20] you know all we have is sports car

[1:10:21] mid-engine cars so like how do you judge

[1:10:24] that against

[1:10:24] like if you had a mid-engine luxury car

[1:10:27] versus a mid-engine

[1:10:28] like sports car or the equivalent i mean

[1:10:31] we don't have a basis for comparison

[1:10:34] yeah i'm not talking about like ferraris

[1:10:36] and like that you know like the

[1:10:38] bigger ferraris and

[1:10:40] sports cars are like what sport that

[1:10:42] this that 718 still sports car i don't

[1:10:44] know

[1:10:45] yeah i don't the i don't either i know

[1:10:48] for example

[1:10:49] like kinematically like the the gt3 is

[1:10:51] something i had to do a lot of homework

[1:10:52] on for upcoming project

[1:10:54] they doubled the spring rates because

[1:10:55] they could go to double wishbone but

[1:10:57] double wishbone isn't

[1:10:59] inherently found on all cars that are

[1:11:01] mid-engined

[1:11:02] well most of them are but like the seven

[1:11:06] or the seven one eight isn't it the 4c

[1:11:08] isn't and the 718 isn't either right

[1:11:10] so anyway yeah i don't i don't have a

[1:11:13] straight answer i would say

[1:11:14] you can make any car ride properly would

[1:11:16] mid engine make it better

[1:11:19] maybe maybe if you if we had

[1:11:22] if you had the money to do it i think

[1:11:24] anything's possible trent schaefer for

[1:11:26] five dollars are you guys planning on

[1:11:28] reviewing a buick regal tour x

[1:11:30] if so i hope so i thought about buying

[1:11:32] ones a daily a buick doesn't have them

[1:11:34] in the fleet anymore

[1:11:35] i don't i know one person with one and

[1:11:38] you know

[1:11:38] it is his daily driver it's not like i'm

[1:11:40] gonna ask him for the car to do a video

[1:11:41] on i have spent time in the buick regal

[1:11:43] tourx

[1:11:44] it has it's not bad because it's not you

[1:11:47] know

[1:11:47] i view it i think it's great yeah it's

[1:11:50] just in america

[1:11:51] like people don't care about wagons like

[1:11:53] they do every well not everywhere else

[1:11:55] but

[1:11:56] it's not a big hot segment here so you

[1:11:58] don't see a lot of them but i thought

[1:11:59] they that was a good direction for them

[1:12:02] yes but again it's

[1:12:03] like you we always joke around about the

[1:12:05] whole wagon thing is like everybody says

[1:12:07] they want it and then

[1:12:08] they never buy it yeah and this has come

[1:12:11] up a couple times here it's like why do

[1:12:12] journalists love wagons and i've talked

[1:12:14] to you about this

[1:12:15] i don't think i get it because i don't

[1:12:17] like suvs i don't like big buildings and

[1:12:19] it gives me the space

[1:12:20] of an suv with the most of the dynamics

[1:12:23] of a sedan that's because it's that no

[1:12:25] compromise thing

[1:12:27] but you know you're right if you want a

[1:12:29] hauler most people are just going to be

[1:12:30] like what has the most space and they're

[1:12:32] going to get an suv

[1:12:32] i think it didn't used to be that way i

[1:12:34] think this has you have to put things in

[1:12:36] perspective of

[1:12:37] we didn't have all the choices in suvs

[1:12:40] like 10 years ago it's not

[1:12:41] like it is today where you have the some

[1:12:43] of the best products or suvs

[1:12:45] because they put so much money in them

[1:12:47] before if you wanted a really good

[1:12:49] hauler you had to get a wagon because

[1:12:50] they were

[1:12:51] developed they were cars it was easier

[1:12:53] to make now it's not so much the case

[1:12:55] you have better choices in the suv world

[1:12:57] than you do in the wagons and

[1:12:59] i mean i don't know would you rather

[1:13:02] have more it depends on what you want

[1:13:03] you want more performance you want more

[1:13:04] space

[1:13:05] and in a hauler what's better and i

[1:13:08] think

[1:13:08] most of the people are going to choose

[1:13:09] more space um

[1:13:11] oh so andy the lamb joe and deb say

[1:13:14] hello

[1:13:15] hi andy and joe hi

[1:13:18] deb and their dogs say hello to you not

[1:13:20] me so we visited them in person

[1:13:23] let's talk about this uh they are a very

[1:13:25] nice

[1:13:26] couple who made us dinner and the food

[1:13:28] was excellent yeah until i was sick for

[1:13:30] the next week

[1:13:31] she ground up the dog's food and put it

[1:13:34] in my food

[1:13:34] and she was hoping that i would

[1:13:36] transform into a dog person and it

[1:13:38] didn't happen

[1:13:39] uh my so i have two dogs mark is not a

[1:13:42] dog person i very much so

[1:13:44] am and watching abby and andy

[1:13:47] absolutely savage you every chance they

[1:13:51] got

[1:13:51] was amazing abby mauled me

[1:13:55] bit me scratched me scratched me every

[1:13:57] place i came home with like

[1:13:59] scars on me i had to get plastic surgery

[1:14:02] on my muscles

[1:14:04] those dogs were beasts that's because

[1:14:07] that's the typical smell of fear

[1:14:09] they they knew that i was not like all

[1:14:11] into them

[1:14:12] so it was like oh who's this cool dude

[1:14:15] that doesn't want me

[1:14:16] so they want me even more and if i did

[1:14:20] that to a cat

[1:14:21] that would be the same thing you ignore

[1:14:22] a cat they're like oh this guy's cool

[1:14:25] so anyway yeah are you a real fawns type

[1:14:27] i'm a real fonz guy

[1:14:29] with especially with a feline i love

[1:14:31] those pictures where it's like some

[1:14:33] little kid holding some like 500 pound

[1:14:35] cat like this and it's just like

[1:14:37] oh but yeah andy and joe are

[1:14:40] or andy i keep calling andy deb the

[1:14:43] curator of andy and abby uh get

[1:14:47] nasty on their uh channel they are

[1:14:50] the best people in the world i give them

[1:14:53] a 10 out of 10.

[1:14:54] you know right people now yeah that's it

[1:14:56] we're gonna be we're gonna do people

[1:14:57] reviews after this

[1:14:59] um long block again for five dollars on

[1:15:02] long block thank you for the donation

[1:15:04] uh nissan z's date is getting closer and

[1:15:06] closer do you think it'll be up there

[1:15:07] with the m2 in terms of specialness to

[1:15:09] drive

[1:15:11] i don't know probably not

[1:15:15] i mean i mean we're

[1:15:18] we're supposed to do uh i mean maybe

[1:15:21] maybe and it's like time

[1:15:22] we're supposed to do a z retrospective

[1:15:25] of all the z cars and then launching the

[1:15:27] 400 or whatever it is yeah so we have

[1:15:30] that

[1:15:30] worked on with toyota or not toyota

[1:15:32] nissan and their their game for it

[1:15:34] it's just time i i don't know what how

[1:15:37] else i can

[1:15:38] pull more time out of my ass and when

[1:15:39] you tell me that it's like oh that

[1:15:41] sounds great yeah maybe like five years

[1:15:43] ago when i had nothing to do but

[1:15:45] pick my nose like i thought about this

[1:15:47] recently imagine doing the miata

[1:15:48] documentary again

[1:15:49] oh god it wouldn't happen i mean it

[1:15:51] would i would not i'd be like dude i'm

[1:15:53] done after the first day

[1:15:55] i'd be like i'm out of here dude i can't

[1:15:56] do this

[1:15:58] so i don't know it's anyway it's about

[1:16:01] the car

[1:16:02] the car is gonna be good and it's going

[1:16:05] to be affordable

[1:16:06] i'm just kind of waiting to see how they

[1:16:08] put the manual trans

[1:16:10] all that power and how they manage it i

[1:16:13] think it's going to be

[1:16:15] probably crazy it's going to be like a

[1:16:17] tire like

[1:16:19] annihilation machine yeah if it doesn't

[1:16:21] have real

[1:16:22] rear tires it i want it to be like the

[1:16:25] uh

[1:16:26] the base mustang gts where they come on

[1:16:27] 235's

[1:16:30] i don't know i think it's going to be

[1:16:31] really good because the motor makes so

[1:16:33] much power

[1:16:35] that car is going to be a rocket yeah

[1:16:36] and it's got a i mean it's double

[1:16:38] wishbone

[1:16:38] yeah i mean it's an evolution of what

[1:16:40] they had before with a manual so i think

[1:16:42] people are going to be like

[1:16:43] yeah people are going to eat that car up

[1:16:45] and in many ways if it's good

[1:16:47] it's going to hurt toyota on their 86.

[1:16:48] and this is a question that's been asked

[1:16:49] a bunch of times what do you think the

[1:16:50] new 86

[1:16:51] we talked about it briefly in the

[1:16:52] beginning i wrote in one mark did not

[1:16:56] you know if you look at the numbers it's

[1:16:58] basically an evolution of what's

[1:16:59] currently in the market and they've

[1:17:00] solved some of the problems so if you

[1:17:01] like the car as it is today

[1:17:03] you're getting the same thing but just

[1:17:05] well what is it is like 25

[1:17:07] better than the last one i didn't drive

[1:17:09] it uh but i mean like overall

[1:17:10] what do you think is it like 25 better

[1:17:13] okay

[1:17:14] the the motor alone having torque and to

[1:17:16] come down lower in the rpm band

[1:17:20] it's a big deal big deal it still sounds

[1:17:22] like a garbage can though

[1:17:23] well that's what do you expect um

[1:17:26] next question uh will there be an audi

[1:17:29] tt video

[1:17:31] uh or review in the future and this is

[1:17:33] for ecorp for two dollars

[1:17:35] uh if probably maybe unlikely unless a

[1:17:39] viewer gave us one

[1:17:41] we're never getting one from audi i

[1:17:43] would love to do a ttrs

[1:17:45] five cylinder turbo high horsepower

[1:17:48] you know haldex weird car they just

[1:17:50] killed that guard yeah i know that's why

[1:17:51] we'll never get one all right

[1:17:53] so unless it's a viewer i would love to

[1:17:54] do a video on it i think it's a neat car

[1:17:56] but unlikely matt from patreon said i

[1:17:59] have a 370z i use about three

[1:18:01] track days a year i've done the diff oil

[1:18:04] cooler and a few other mods the last

[1:18:05] thing i'm missing to get it ready to be

[1:18:06] around the track is a big brake kit

[1:18:08] it's a large investment with the 400 z

[1:18:10] coming out i'm considering waiting and

[1:18:12] upgrading to that car

[1:18:13] any thoughts on whether the upgrade to

[1:18:14] the upgrade the brakes and stick with

[1:18:17] the 370 or upgrade to a 400 in a year

[1:18:20] just do pads and rotors for now

[1:18:23] kill the pads on rotors every time you

[1:18:25] go out in the brake fluid

[1:18:26] and wait because of uh like you said a

[1:18:29] brake a big brake kit's going to cost

[1:18:30] you about a good one

[1:18:32] it's like a 3 000 a 3500 investment

[1:18:35] so just do the pads and rotors for the

[1:18:37] three track days a year

[1:18:39] and then see where you're at in the 400

[1:18:41] z probably with a real set of tires

[1:18:43] it'll be faster than the car he's

[1:18:44] currently oh yeah for sure well it's the

[1:18:46] engine a lot

[1:18:46] that's what i mean yeah and you get the

[1:18:48] same basically architecture

[1:18:50] so what you like about your car plus

[1:18:52] another at least hundred dollars

[1:18:54] yeah all that other fun stuff it's gonna

[1:18:56] be a much much better car uh calvin w

[1:18:58] for ten dollars

[1:19:00] ignoring the subaru outback the only

[1:19:03] wagons available in canada

[1:19:05] cpo or vw audi mercedes and volvo

[1:19:08] do you you have opinions on which brand

[1:19:10] would outlive their warranties the

[1:19:12] longest

[1:19:13] yikes volvo i would never buy your car

[1:19:16] without a warranty i would never buy a

[1:19:17] volvo

[1:19:18] you're weak yeah this guy oh my volvo

[1:19:21] was fine to replace

[1:19:22] the head super trigger i replaced the

[1:19:24] whole car

[1:19:26] oh that's that's the key with the vulva

[1:19:28] right if you get a warranty you actually

[1:19:29] get a new car

[1:19:30] because they just replace everything

[1:19:32] yeah you or by 150

[1:19:33] 000 miles everything's new that's

[1:19:35] assuming they want to fix it that's the

[1:19:37] other problem

[1:19:38] what about vw audi mercedes out of those

[1:19:40] two mercedes or vw audi group

[1:19:42] vw i would too yeah vw audi there you go

[1:19:46] get a a6 wagon or anything yeah

[1:19:48] something that's

[1:19:49] produced that's shared across a large

[1:19:52] amount of vehicles is always a better

[1:19:54] bet

[1:19:54] the more esoteric and the more like uh

[1:19:58] you know unshared it is the lot more

[1:20:00] parts cost all that crap

[1:20:02] and we got a couple questions about why

[1:20:04] we didn't do a video today and it's

[1:20:05] because we ran

[1:20:06] out of time you know it's bad when i

[1:20:10] can't get something out

[1:20:12] i think it's just it's got to that point

[1:20:14] now where and we get the car to be fair

[1:20:16] the car we got that we've been reviewing

[1:20:17] is

[1:20:19] weirdly with certain brands they'll just

[1:20:21] tell us we're getting something

[1:20:22] last minute literally days before and

[1:20:24] it's a take it or leave it opportunity

[1:20:26] the tlx is a prime example of that they

[1:20:29] told us we were going to get it they

[1:20:30] didn't tell us one and then it showed

[1:20:32] up and you can't say no no you can't say

[1:20:35] no

[1:20:35] so that's friday's video the tlx type us

[1:20:38] and then what are we doing for monday

[1:20:40] like okay so we're going on a what are

[1:20:42] we doing this week we're going to

[1:20:44] road atlanta to shoot a part of our

[1:20:46] documentary with porsche

[1:20:47] so we're doing the gt3 stuff the 992

[1:20:51] so we leave on what tuesday or wednesday

[1:20:53] wednesday so we leave wednesday morning

[1:20:56] we go there we film wednesday night

[1:21:00] wednesday thursday all day fly back

[1:21:03] friday

[1:21:03] have a car that's two cars that are

[1:21:05] sitting here we have to film a car in

[1:21:07] two days

[1:21:08] so i have a video to release matt was

[1:21:09] supposed to drop off an is350 f sport

[1:21:11] today oh that never happened

[1:21:12] did it get pushed off i have no idea did

[1:21:14] you push it off i don't know i don't

[1:21:16] remember nothing i gotta call matt

[1:21:17] but anyway i mean anyway so we're gonna

[1:21:19] come back from a trip

[1:21:21] and i have to literally come back from a

[1:21:23] trip drive a car

[1:21:25] film a car in like one day and then edit

[1:21:28] it

[1:21:28] so i don't i work weekend so does mark

[1:21:31] mark's

[1:21:32] got more family obligations than i have

[1:21:33] so i can i can pull the seven days thing

[1:21:35] but

[1:21:36] put this in perspective every week

[1:21:39] for the next month and a half one of us

[1:21:42] will be traveling for work

[1:21:44] every week there's a bronco launch

[1:21:46] coming up we're doing this thing

[1:21:48] uh what the hell are we doing next we're

[1:21:50] doing oh and then we have big projects

[1:21:52] but thankfully for our viewers

[1:21:53] if you like cars the car quality of

[1:21:56] what's coming out

[1:21:57] has increased exponentially

[1:22:00] yeah and so the byproduct of this

[1:22:02] personally is

[1:22:04] work it's it's a drudgery so in order to

[1:22:07] do this

[1:22:08] play this game but now we have the

[1:22:10] corporate stuff

[1:22:11] which is a whole other yeah which we're

[1:22:13] not going to get into yeah we can't get

[1:22:15] into that but the corporate stuff isn't

[1:22:16] a massive amount of pressure

[1:22:18] because you have to you know it has to

[1:22:20] be amazing it's no joke yeah

[1:22:22] this isn't just your own personal thing

[1:22:24] this is somebody else's stuff

[1:22:25] so you have that then you have the

[1:22:27] obligation to feed the beast which is

[1:22:28] what i call it

[1:22:29] and you have to feed it you have to or

[1:22:32] you get killed on it

[1:22:34] and it has to be good it has to still

[1:22:36] follow what you're trying to do

[1:22:38] you have to make people happy with it

[1:22:40] and then your love for what you're doing

[1:22:42] starts to dissipate

[1:22:43] so i mean this is peak for me for the

[1:22:46] next two weeks i was thinking about

[1:22:47] driving here

[1:22:48] so we are doing the gt3 which that video

[1:22:51] and we're doing a 991.1 and then 1.2

[1:22:54] like documentary yeah

[1:22:55] it's the past two generations of the gt3

[1:22:58] and the brand new one

[1:22:59] yes and the cop car stuff and it'll be

[1:23:01] like the lfa video

[1:23:02] you're getting the head of 911 to be on

[1:23:05] camera patrick long

[1:23:06] lead keen the cars are going up in the

[1:23:09] air it's a full technical retrospective

[1:23:11] it's not just it's cool and it's fast

[1:23:13] this is a real video and it's a

[1:23:15] nightmare too and not getting paid to do

[1:23:17] it and we're doing it for free

[1:23:18] we're probably gonna lose money doing

[1:23:20] this yeah so at least in our time

[1:23:22] and on top of actually all the money

[1:23:25] associated with going all these places

[1:23:27] flying blah blah blah blah blah but

[1:23:29] you're getting that video and then once

[1:23:31] we come back from this

[1:23:32] we have an e63s wagon and a 911 turbo s

[1:23:37] then the week after that we get a mark 8

[1:23:40] gti one of the pre-production euro spec

[1:23:43] cars

[1:23:43] then the week after that we have a

[1:23:46] right up your alley we get one of the

[1:23:48] only mugen

[1:23:49] civic type r's in the united states

[1:23:52] built by the supplier from eugene japan

[1:23:54] it's a from king and we get a original

[1:23:58] mugen-specked

[1:24:00] uh integra type r that's all this month

[1:24:03] yeah there's a lot of cars

[1:24:04] and there's not enough time in the day

[1:24:07] so

[1:24:08] you know like it's hard to try to

[1:24:11] do the stuff and be in the moment

[1:24:13] because like

[1:24:14] obviously the people that are watching

[1:24:15] this if you're into cars you have this

[1:24:17] in your mindset what your dreams would

[1:24:19] be

[1:24:20] and right now i'm literally getting to

[1:24:22] live

[1:24:23] the dream of me 15 years ago getting

[1:24:25] access to all these cars

[1:24:27] but i'm no longer enjoying the access

[1:24:29] because it's the pressure because if i

[1:24:31] told you 15 years ago like me yeah

[1:24:33] 15 years ago it was like 10 but yeah

[1:24:34] right yeah you were like you weren't

[1:24:36] even

[1:24:36] born yet but you know if you told me in

[1:24:40] high school like jack you get to meet

[1:24:41] patrick long

[1:24:42] you're going to interview him and then

[1:24:44] you're going to get to drive a gt3

[1:24:45] by yourself at rhode alana chasing

[1:24:48] patrick long

[1:24:49] it's a dream and all you oh you and i

[1:24:51] are thinking about oh we got to get

[1:24:53] on a plane

[1:24:53] yeah no it's it's not just that it's

[1:24:55] like you have to do a good job

[1:24:57] you know like it's the pressure that i

[1:24:58] have on myself not to

[1:25:00] to to do this stuff and to to evolve

[1:25:03] it's got to be

[1:25:04] great yeah it's it's got to be good and

[1:25:06] that's the only way to survive in this

[1:25:08] game that we're trying to do

[1:25:10] to making free stuff that people

[1:25:12] continue to watch

[1:25:13] and like the subscriber thing it's

[1:25:16] really starting to get

[1:25:17] i i've always said this the subscriber

[1:25:18] number i don't care about

[1:25:20] but to see the numbers so bad means that

[1:25:24] i have to ask because people are not

[1:25:26] doing it or

[1:25:27] we've maxed out that small amount of

[1:25:29] people you know we're a very

[1:25:30] niche group of people who are willing to

[1:25:32] sit through a

[1:25:33] 20 40 15 minute video about engineering

[1:25:36] right yeah no you're right

[1:25:38] so it's hard though i need those numbers

[1:25:40] to improve

[1:25:41] to continue that algorithm to keep

[1:25:43] showing the content

[1:25:45] and then when we go to do these projects

[1:25:47] you have to have the numbers

[1:25:49] to be like we want to do something big

[1:25:51] for you for this company we're not

[1:25:52] asking for money we want to showcase

[1:25:54] this we want to tell a story give us the

[1:25:56] people that made it give us the access

[1:25:58] and they're like

[1:25:58] well you only had a 100 subscribers this

[1:26:02] month

[1:26:02] you know like that's the that

[1:26:04] you're up against in this game

[1:26:06] and obviously we have a large body of

[1:26:07] work now it's not as big of a deal as it

[1:26:09] used to be

[1:26:10] but those numbers are more important to

[1:26:12] the business than they are to me

[1:26:13] personally

[1:26:14] and now i'm getting pissed off because i

[1:26:17] have to ask for it because people are

[1:26:18] not doing it

[1:26:20] um and you know i have to figure out

[1:26:22] creatively

[1:26:23] how i'm going to do it in a way that's

[1:26:25] digestible not only to the viewers but

[1:26:26] to me

[1:26:27] to constantly ask the the stereotypes of

[1:26:30] asking and all that so

[1:26:32] all right moving on from us complaining

[1:26:34] i feel like and i apologize

[1:26:36] for those just who watch this complain

[1:26:37] but it's there there is some catharsis

[1:26:39] in it for us

[1:26:40] uh kj ballin 14

[1:26:44] for 10 for the valium reliability what

[1:26:46] will compete with the tlx type s is the

[1:26:49] upcoming is500 a direct competitor

[1:26:51] where do you think they will price the

[1:26:53] lexus so there is no pricing released

[1:26:55] unofficially or officially and you and i

[1:26:58] have this conversation again mark

[1:26:59] so the tlx type s will be a

[1:27:01] mass-produced car they'll sell a lot of

[1:27:03] them and it'll be what fifty three

[1:27:04] thousand dollars thereabouts

[1:27:06] i think so the is 500 lexus has

[1:27:10] said it'll be a limited production car

[1:27:12] so even if it's like 55 or 60 thousand

[1:27:14] dollars the dealers are going to

[1:27:16] annihilate you

[1:27:17] there's no way you're getting that car

[1:27:19] for under 60. no way

[1:27:21] if they're going to make it limited

[1:27:23] people are there

[1:27:24] the dealers are going to absolutely

[1:27:26] scalp you to death on it

[1:27:28] and that car is going to be worth a lot

[1:27:30] i mean it may not be the best car but

[1:27:31] it's going to be worth a lot of money

[1:27:33] yeah and so i got to ride in it um but

[1:27:36] yeah that one was modified yeah the one

[1:27:37] i wrote in has no bearing and you have

[1:27:40] they had one of their pro drivers so i

[1:27:42] got to meet uh pruitt

[1:27:44] scott who put me in a fuji with him and

[1:27:46] i don't

[1:27:48] i have no idea who drove the the other

[1:27:49] one he drove it like a madman

[1:27:52] and obviously you have a pro level

[1:27:54] driver

[1:27:55] the dynamics in the passenger seat

[1:27:57] particularly had turn downs it had

[1:27:59] lowering springs and a wing and all this

[1:28:01] other garbage so i have no idea but it

[1:28:02] sounded great

[1:28:03] yeah i'm sure so what else competes with

[1:28:06] the dlx type s

[1:28:07] is 350f sport but yeah those are the

[1:28:10] most direct cons

[1:28:11] direct competitors the two kind of

[1:28:12] japanese cars

[1:28:14] those would be the two and it just i

[1:28:17] guess it depends on what you want the

[1:28:18] tlx is going to annihilate

[1:28:21] the is350 and that's just because of the

[1:28:23] motor

[1:28:24] it doesn't have what it takes to keep up

[1:28:26] i think dynamically

[1:28:27] the is is going to be more connected

[1:28:30] to drive but

[1:28:34] the tlx is going to be a much better car

[1:28:36] oh no doubt the tlx

[1:28:38] so i drove the is350 on track the f

[1:28:40] sport and all the other journalists

[1:28:42] hate the motor though this is garbage i

[1:28:44] will say it does two things better than

[1:28:46] the

[1:28:47] is-3 than the tlx the gearbox doesn't

[1:28:50] auto-up shift

[1:28:51] so if you are driving on the track you

[1:28:52] can bang the limiter in certain corners

[1:28:54] and not put you in the wrong gear

[1:28:56] and it is still rear driven which means

[1:28:58] it's a car that will trail brake

[1:29:00] and it'll under braking rotate into a

[1:29:02] slide you can't just give it gas to get

[1:29:04] it to rotate but it's impressive

[1:29:06] dynamically it's a really really good

[1:29:07] car it's just not fast

[1:29:09] right and the motor is not good by

[1:29:11] modern standards

[1:29:12] yeah it's it's a new dated car but again

[1:29:16] you're not the people that are buying

[1:29:18] the is350 and the tlx type s are not

[1:29:20] somebody

[1:29:21] that's like oh i've had like 10 audis

[1:29:23] and 5 bmws

[1:29:24] unless they got burned by those birds

[1:29:25] right right that's it they're not going

[1:29:27] to appeal to that

[1:29:28] so i guess you have to look at it

[1:29:30] differently i would say

[1:29:31] right now the tlx would be a better car

[1:29:33] to have and own long term because it

[1:29:35] does everything better

[1:29:36] really overall the whole scope of it but

[1:29:39] the is personally i would rather the is

[1:29:41] because i like the way it looks i like

[1:29:42] the style of it i like what the kind of

[1:29:44] the ethos of what they're doing

[1:29:46] rear dry platform and naturally

[1:29:48] aspirated motor that it will never have

[1:29:50] a problem

[1:29:51] ever and i'd be willing to make those

[1:29:53] trade-offs that that's me

[1:29:54] so yeah you just objectively from a

[1:29:56] reviewer's perspective tlx is like

[1:29:59] that's the best

[1:30:00] cool sedan you could probably get for

[1:30:02] the money for the money

[1:30:03] absolutely i think the germans do a

[1:30:05] better job but they are way more money

[1:30:07] [Music]

[1:30:08] uh and they have weight loss character

[1:30:10] and are not as reliable

[1:30:12] but for a lease well you don't know

[1:30:14] reliability

[1:30:15] this is the first motor that they were

[1:30:17] i'm sorry the first

[1:30:18] engine with a twin turbo v6 that they

[1:30:21] made so who knows

[1:30:23] uh adrian q what current future 2022

[1:30:27] electric vehicle excluding tesla's due

[1:30:29] to their charging network

[1:30:31] do you believe has a chance for mass

[1:30:33] adoption and where's the arby's

[1:30:35] so i made him not get arby's today yeah

[1:30:37] i'm like dude

[1:30:38] it's live stream day let's hit arby's

[1:30:40] he's like well

[1:30:41] maybe it would be a good idea if we did

[1:30:48] so then i punched him now we didn't get

[1:30:50] arby's

[1:30:51] um what was the other part of that um

[1:30:54] all i heard was arby's dude and

[1:30:56] everything went black what uh

[1:30:58] what brand or company you think will do

[1:30:59] mass adoption ev

[1:31:01] other than tesla ford ford has a really

[1:31:04] good chance of doing that now with the

[1:31:06] f-150

[1:31:08] toyota's behind the eight ball they know

[1:31:09] it but once toyota figures out a way to

[1:31:11] build infrastructure and

[1:31:13] infrastructure has to be worked on with

[1:31:14] a local government as well

[1:31:17] realistically that's the only way to do

[1:31:18] a massive infrastructure yeah you're not

[1:31:20] kidding like the

[1:31:22] that is huge but that's at least five

[1:31:24] years out

[1:31:25] the kia and hyundai keep pushing this ev

[1:31:28] thing

[1:31:29] and personally to me the whole eevee

[1:31:32] thing

[1:31:32] with kiana hyundai i do not believe them

[1:31:35] i don't believe them from past

[1:31:36] experience with dealing with them

[1:31:38] every time i asked them questions they

[1:31:40] were not serious about evie now all of a

[1:31:42] sudden they're serious about evie

[1:31:44] until i see these cars on the road like

[1:31:46] really on the road not just in

[1:31:48] california i i

[1:31:49] definitely i'm gonna wait and see on

[1:31:52] that one but

[1:31:53] yeah i think ford is in the best

[1:31:54] position they're the first one to ev a

[1:31:56] truck

[1:31:57] and that's like the perfect place

[1:32:00] groundbreaking yeah i mean i i don't

[1:32:01] care about it but i mean

[1:32:03] you know you can do that to the biggest

[1:32:04] volume seller in the world and make it

[1:32:06] work

[1:32:07] then it's just and ford has the

[1:32:09] connections with the local us government

[1:32:10] to build

[1:32:11] infrastructure if i was ford and i'm

[1:32:13] sure this is what they're doing i'd work

[1:32:15] with my local

[1:32:16] government in this case detroit and

[1:32:19] subsidize them and help them build an ev

[1:32:22] infrastructure for my trucks so not only

[1:32:25] is it a marketing one

[1:32:26] it's an engineering one as well yeah

[1:32:29] i mean i sounds good to me so

[1:32:33] give me some of that money so i'm i'm in

[1:32:35] local government i want some of that

[1:32:37] money how do you give it to me

[1:32:39] i'll put whatever you want up i'll put a

[1:32:41] sign in your face on

[1:32:42] every charger if you want if you give me

[1:32:44] a couple hundred thousand a year

[1:32:45] are more oh seven are there any makes or

[1:32:48] models thank you for the five dollars

[1:32:50] with genuinely connected feeling

[1:32:52] electric power steering

[1:32:53] who is doing the best eps

[1:32:57] affordably oh no well you just said best

[1:32:59] porsche

[1:33:00] [Music]

[1:33:02] i don't know all right what's the best

[1:33:05] what's the best

[1:33:06] steering car you've driven anything that

[1:33:08] doesn't have an assist

[1:33:11] i mean honestly i i don't know all the

[1:33:13] electric power steering racks feel

[1:33:15] almost completely the same to me and the

[1:33:17] more they tout the marketing that

[1:33:19] they're amazing the more i'm like i

[1:33:22] don't know we talked about it so like

[1:33:23] the the 86

[1:33:24] it's still rack mountain the 86 is

[1:33:26] probably one of the best

[1:33:27] and then the 992 yeah then

[1:33:31] probably i would say honestly the 86

[1:33:33] that's a really good one

[1:33:35] it's it's but then again it's subaru

[1:33:38] who has historically amazing steering

[1:33:41] feel

[1:33:41] on their older generations yeah the s209

[1:33:43] well the draw stiffeners on the front

[1:33:45] was incredible yeah

[1:33:46] i mean one of the best steering cars out

[1:33:48] there aside from you know like real

[1:33:50] hardcore sports cars so

[1:33:51] the 86 is always good but they have that

[1:33:53] foundation obviously that whatever

[1:33:55] they're doing with mounting in front

[1:33:56] subframes and all that

[1:33:57] how they have it set up it just

[1:33:59] translates well into an eps and i think

[1:34:01] the problem we talk about this a lot

[1:34:04] their found their goal in making cars is

[1:34:07] not to transmit anything through the

[1:34:08] steering wheel

[1:34:09] so by design to start you're already

[1:34:13] numbed everything out so when they go to

[1:34:14] make a sports car version like oh

[1:34:16] we started everything by numbing it out

[1:34:18] now we got to take things out and it's

[1:34:19] not like

[1:34:20] pure so you don't get a lot of feeling

[1:34:22] back no matter what you do

[1:34:24] so i don't know buy an 86

[1:34:27] yeah and the new 86 as well it revises

[1:34:29] the bushing in the steering rack to make

[1:34:31] it even more direct

[1:34:32] that's something they talked about as

[1:34:34] well well direct is different than

[1:34:35] feel right yeah you can have a direct

[1:34:38] steering rack like you can make any car

[1:34:40] direct steering rack you just make it

[1:34:41] yes

[1:34:42] yeah yeah i mean but you don't feel

[1:34:44] anything so

[1:34:45] it doesn't load up yeah uh hopefully

[1:34:48] that answers your question in that

[1:34:49] regards i know that one's a little tough

[1:34:51] uh but a super donkey for 20

[1:34:55] canadian i bought a 20 20 super on every

[1:34:58] hyundai accent driver

[1:34:59] wants to race me and why a supra yeah

[1:35:01] he's a he's a

[1:35:03] cool dude he bought a supra why does

[1:35:06] every hyundai accent because they're

[1:35:07] jealous brah

[1:35:09] now i think a lot of it is curiosity of

[1:35:11] people wanting to see

[1:35:14] what it is the car can do they want to

[1:35:16] hear it they want to see it go by they

[1:35:17] want to see it accelerate i found that

[1:35:19] that's what a lot of people do when they

[1:35:20] stop me

[1:35:21] and when i'm in like the kia rio

[1:35:24] especially

[1:35:25] like i'll roll down my windows like man

[1:35:27] is that a kia rio i'm like okay i'm like

[1:35:29] can you can you do like a

[1:35:30] cbt dump so i just get that thing wound

[1:35:33] up and they're like wow

[1:35:35] on a serious note it's amazing you know

[1:35:38] if you remove

[1:35:39] yourself from like the the weird

[1:35:41] subculture

[1:35:42] that is the internet when it comes to

[1:35:44] cars regular people

[1:35:46] don't think of the supra as being a bmw

[1:35:49] or whatever no no

[1:35:50] they think it's a cool sports car the

[1:35:51] looks i mean there's nothing else that

[1:35:53] looks like it

[1:35:54] yep so it does have that huge wow factor

[1:35:57] um that somebody stopped me the day i

[1:35:59] was in the car and they're like man that

[1:36:01] car looks so cool what is it you know

[1:36:02] what is it like and like

[1:36:04] is it loud is it fast i'm like this is

[1:36:06] at a stoplight i'm like

[1:36:07] you know you're trying to give them a

[1:36:08] history lesson on this car without

[1:36:10] sounding like a douche but they were

[1:36:12] more excited about it than i would

[1:36:14] pull out your monroe and be like well

[1:36:16] now i

[1:36:17] paid so much money you know you can't

[1:36:19] even make this in three years

[1:36:23] um next question from nick dion

[1:36:26] for twenty dollars uh i have a 2016 audi

[1:36:30] s6 with 87 000 miles have an expensive

[1:36:33] cleaning engine out service at 100k and

[1:36:36] then turbo screen service every forty

[1:36:37] thousand

[1:36:38] is it worth keeping to a hundred fifty

[1:36:39] thousand miles realistic slash

[1:36:41] reasonable uh no i would not keep that

[1:36:45] car to 150 000 miles

[1:36:47] why not an engine out

[1:36:51] engine out that's that's nothing i don't

[1:36:54] know man i mean

[1:36:54] the the 16 s6 still had the twin turbo

[1:36:57] v8 if i remember

[1:36:58] it's a really cool car i just i feel

[1:37:00] like a lot of these cars

[1:37:02] particularly automatic luxury sedans

[1:37:04] that have even you know

[1:37:06] super sedans like that is they're not a

[1:37:08] car you keep long term they're like you

[1:37:09] here and now purchase and then

[1:37:11] sooner or later they go to they go off

[1:37:13] to live their life at a buy here pay

[1:37:14] here a lot

[1:37:16] i saw an s eight not an s8 a uh a8

[1:37:20] in woodstock at like one of the buy here

[1:37:22] pay here lots

[1:37:24] the thing like it literally it looked

[1:37:25] like it was about eight years old and

[1:37:27] the thing was listed for 17

[1:37:29] 000 and i'm like

[1:37:32] like hey maybe i should stop in then i'd

[1:37:35] be making those videos hey man i got

[1:37:37] this cool car for 10

[1:37:38] 000. and i put 50 000 here's my journey

[1:37:42] and my girlfriend she's got a bikini on

[1:37:46] oh that's sorry that was your plan no no

[1:37:48] that's that's what i plan on doing when

[1:37:49] i buy a new 86.

[1:37:50] when you buy your bmws i bought all the

[1:37:53] cheapest m cars and now women want me

[1:37:56] they they want me when it's on the tow

[1:37:58] truck driving by they can ride on the

[1:38:00] tow truck it's cool the horns are loud

[1:38:04] we got to do a speed round so we said

[1:38:05] we're going to end at 6 30. it's already

[1:38:07] past that and we have to shoot the tlx

[1:38:10] tonight

[1:38:10] all right so please stop donating yeah

[1:38:13] don't donate

[1:38:14] whatever you've done so far is way more

[1:38:16] than expected you're gonna get a lot for

[1:38:18] your money i promise you

[1:38:20] and subscribe like follow me on every

[1:38:22] single multi

[1:38:23] or social media platform oh we've

[1:38:25] got a lot of questions how many

[1:38:27] a lot like what's a lot like half a page

[1:38:29] is worth

[1:38:30] to define numbers do you have numbers

[1:38:32] one two three

[1:38:33] four five six seven

[1:38:36] probably like 20. so i'm gonna speed

[1:38:39] through these okay so

[1:38:40] we're getting close to battery being

[1:38:42] dead so we'll

[1:38:43] speed through it oh my god

[1:38:46] all righty then uh

[1:38:51] i having a lx 470

[1:38:54] ls 530 and i will use gs350 that i can

[1:38:57] electronically make

[1:38:58] and mechanically maintain do you feel

[1:39:00] the the newer ownership experience of

[1:39:03] of cars benefits and outweighs the cost

[1:39:08] that didn't actually make any sense to

[1:39:09] me the the new the

[1:39:11] so he has an lx470 yeah ls430

[1:39:14] and now we'll use gs350 okay he can

[1:39:17] service them and maintain them

[1:39:19] but do you feel like the ownership of a

[1:39:21] newer car ben if

[1:39:22] the benefits of owning a newer car out

[1:39:24] weighs the cost of not being able to

[1:39:26] work on the the

[1:39:27] whole problem with the new cars is

[1:39:29] they're expensive and they're way more

[1:39:30] complicated

[1:39:31] and they're more complicated for a

[1:39:33] multitude of reasons which we talked

[1:39:34] about a lot

[1:39:35] so not only are you paying more but your

[1:39:37] costs to keep them long-term are going

[1:39:39] to be

[1:39:40] way more excessive as they get broken

[1:39:43] and are difficult to fix

[1:39:45] we saw that with the the ella the new ls

[1:39:47] 500

[1:39:48] the head mechanic who's been working on

[1:39:50] lexus cars for 20 years

[1:39:52] said the worst car he's worked on the

[1:39:53] worst lexus was the new

[1:39:55] twin turbo v6 the engine is so hard to

[1:39:58] work on

[1:39:58] everything's hard to get at that's a