SPIDER-MAN BRAND NEW DAY TRAILER | Live Reaction + Q&A

[00:00] Heat. Heat.

[00:29] Hey,

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[01:11] Hello, welcome, welcome, welcome back to

[01:13] New Rockstars. I'm Eric Boss. We're

[01:15] going to be reacting to the new trailer

[01:17] for Spider-Man Brand New Day that just

[01:19] dropped noon Pacific time, 3 Eastern

[01:21] time, and some other time depending on

[01:24] where you live around the world. Uh,

[01:25] this trailer I I really just got a

[01:27] chance to look at it. Now, we're going

[01:28] to have our proper frame by frame

[01:30] analysis that's going to be publishing

[01:31] to the New Rockstars channel later

[01:33] today. Uh, we're going to take our time

[01:35] with it. We're going to find everything

[01:36] that you might have missed in it. In

[01:37] this video, I'm just going to be

[01:38] reacting to it. I I don't know if we'll

[01:40] do a full proper reaction to it, but

[01:42] we'll kind of go through it together. I

[01:44] want to see if you and I can experience

[01:47] some interesting discoveries at the same

[01:50] time. I'm here to answer your questions

[01:51] the best that I can. I want to hear your

[01:54] impressions. I want to hear your

[01:55] reactions. What what most excites your

[01:57] curiosity from this trailer? Uh what do

[02:00] you think is going on in this movie?

[02:01] What are you most excited to see? What

[02:03] are your theories? What are your ideas?

[02:04] Hit me up in the chat. You can uh do a

[02:08] super chat if you want. If you're

[02:09] generous, uh you can just try to chat in

[02:11] general. I'll really really try to

[02:13] answer your questions. I really

[02:14] appreciate all of you. Um

[02:17] uh so we're just getting the the stream

[02:20] started right now. How's the audio

[02:21] sounding?

[02:22] >> It sounds great, but it is a little

[02:24] desyncted everybody.

[02:26] >> Cool. We're going to fix that right now.

[02:27] >> Um yeah,

[02:28] >> thank you guys for joining. Uh 1,600 of

[02:31] you. Holy crap. Thanks so much. It might

[02:33] be less distracting if I do this. Uh

[02:36] I've realized Hey, thank you all. Here,

[02:39] here. Let's get Let's get some Oh, here

[02:42] we go. Uh, thank you all so much for

[02:44] joining the stream. Brian's here

[02:46] figuring out the synchronization issue.

[02:48] Um, we're going to be reacting to this

[02:50] trailer.

[02:52] Do you guys Hello. Can you How is this?

[02:57] We're still getting started here uh as

[03:00] we're going to be going through this

[03:01] trailer bit by bit. Um, if uh we're

[03:04] sorry about the synchronization issue.

[03:05] This just happens sometimes and we have

[03:07] so many of you joining us at the same

[03:09] time. Um, and uh we we'll figure this

[03:12] out before we get going so it won't be

[03:14] too distracting. Um,

[03:20] oh, it says fixed. Are we fixed? Are we

[03:22] good?

[03:22] >> Mostly there. I'll just do a slight

[03:24] adjustment.

[03:25] >> Oh, a slight adjustment.

[03:27] >> The slightest bit of adjustment.

[03:29] >> I am a very model lover major general.

[03:32] Uh,

[03:35] okay. Great. I I think I think it's

[03:39] Yeah, I I think it's most of the way

[03:40] there. Clap.

[03:42] Did that sync up for you guys? Let Let

[03:44] us know.

[03:45] >> Let us know. Um, Berg's not in the

[03:49] studio. Um,

[03:52] unfortunately. Um, but he is, uh, in the

[03:55] chat, so be nice to Berg in the chat.

[03:58] Uh, ask him your whale questions. He's

[04:01] still obsessed with Whalefall. Um, okay.

[04:03] We're going to go forth with this. Uh,

[04:06] and we're going to go through this

[04:07] trailer bit by bit. Uh, oh, I love that.

[04:10] Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, again, if you want

[04:13] have if you have specific questions, if

[04:15] you have specific theories or thoughts,

[04:17] um, if you're a member, I'll I'll see it

[04:19] there. If you hit us up with a super

[04:21] chat, I'll see it there. Or I'll try to

[04:22] just answer it if I just see it through

[04:24] this rapidly uh ex uh streaming chat

[04:28] window.

[04:30] Um, we got a thought here from goodness

[04:33] producer. They definitely have bigger

[04:34] surprises like Gan Gray or Greyhulk in

[04:37] it. Yeah, we'll talk about Greyhulk in

[04:39] this stream. Uh, there was this

[04:40] interview that came out from Fandango

[04:42] earlier today that we're going to do a

[04:44] separate video about on the New Rockstar

[04:45] channel tomorrow that goes into all the

[04:47] weird little things that the cast

[04:48] accidentally revealed in that interview.

[04:50] Specifically, that Greyhulk. We're going

[04:51] to see the Greyhulk form in this. Uh,

[04:53] but let's talk about Savage Hulk first.

[04:55] Um, okay. So, I'm going to go through

[04:57] just some interesting things from this.

[04:58] again. Full Easter egg breakdown is

[05:01] going to be coming to the channel later

[05:02] today. Uh, so Peter is confronting Matt

[05:05] Gargan Scorpion here. Um, he's back with

[05:09] this awesome looking new suit. It

[05:11] actually looks really great. Uh, I don't

[05:12] know how he broke out of prison. I don't

[05:14] know who's giving him this new suit, but

[05:15] he did threaten to cut off Peter

[05:17] Parker's head and put it in a dryer back

[05:19] in Spider-Man Homecoming. Um, what's

[05:21] crazy about this shot, I believe in the

[05:24] opening of this, yeah, we have two DODC

[05:26] soldiers here. They are frozen. Gan

[05:29] Gray, Satie Sink, has used her powers to

[05:32] freeze them. She's going to be part of

[05:33] whatever this this fight scene is. I

[05:36] don't know the the context of this, but

[05:37] a lot of people are like breaking out of

[05:39] prisons in this footage.

[05:42] Um, so in this, we also see Peter's eye.

[05:46] I I love the repeated macro close-ups of

[05:49] Peter's eye under his mask. An

[05:51] impossible shot. you'd have to use some

[05:52] kind of like VFX or whatever to get the

[05:56] lens that close to his face.

[05:58] Realistically, it's like Tom Holland's

[06:00] face darkened as if it was under a mask

[06:03] uh wearing some kind of contact or they

[06:04] black out his eye with VFX. But man, it

[06:07] looks really really cool whenever we see

[06:09] this in the trailer. Um Peter's

[06:13] questioning what's going on with himself

[06:16] here.

[06:18] Uh yeah, fights going on.

[06:20] >> Um

[06:22] So, one of the things that we saw in the

[06:24] first trailer was Peter kind of

[06:26] Instagram stalking Ned. He does follow

[06:28] Ned. Um Ned's uh profile is uh I believe

[06:32] the Grateful Ned 42 in the Easter egg

[06:34] breakdown. I'm getting get into some

[06:36] theories of why the number 42 is

[06:38] interesting. Obviously, the number from

[06:40] Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the

[06:41] Galaxy, the answer to all things in the

[06:44] universe, uh the Jackie Robinson number,

[06:45] the Miles G. Morales number, the spider

[06:48] that bit Miles Morales and Into the

[06:49] Spider-Verse. Earth 42 is a very

[06:51] important dimension as we're going to

[06:52] see beyond the Spider-Verse and the

[06:54] history and the future of Miles Morales

[06:56] potentially in live action as well. Hey,

[06:58] thank you for your super chat. The dear

[07:01] Yaj, are the trailers hiding a potential

[07:03] symbiote? I mean, if they're hiding, we

[07:05] wouldn't see it. Um, look, a lot of

[07:08] people are saying like the way this

[07:10] consciousness jumps from person to

[07:12] person, is there actually some kind of

[07:14] symbiote that's quickly jumping from

[07:15] them? I don't know. I think it's coming

[07:17] from Gan Gray's uh powers, from Satie

[07:20] Sinks characters powers. I don't know if

[07:22] it's a symbiote. Um, but I do think at

[07:25] some point we're going to see Tom

[07:26] Holland, Peter Parker interact with a

[07:28] symbiote, with a Venom. Um, I think

[07:30] that's just going to happen in Secret

[07:32] Wars. I think that's something that we

[07:33] could see in a post-redit scene. I think

[07:34] if if they were going to do it in this

[07:36] movie, they would have done more with

[07:37] that Tom Hardy postredit scene from

[07:39] Spider-Man No Way Home, but you know,

[07:42] Tom Holland did say that he went through

[07:43] all of social media. Every New Rockstars

[07:46] video, he might not have said New

[07:48] Rockstars, but you know, every Reddit

[07:49] thread asking people what they most

[07:52] wanted to see or just kind of lurking to

[07:54] see what people really wanted to see

[07:56] that even like a fanervicey film like

[07:58] Spider-Man No Way Home still did not

[08:00] deliver the goods on. And part of that

[08:02] is a a street level story. Part of that

[08:04] is a more Andrew Garfield, Tobey Maguire

[08:07] vibe suit. Um, some of that is probably

[08:10] teaming up with the Hulk and Punisher

[08:12] uh, fighting the Hand, I guess. Um, I

[08:14] assume some of that is team up

[08:16] Spider-Man with the X-Men. And yeah,

[08:17] there's probably going to be people who

[08:19] were like, I want to see more of

[08:20] Spider-Man and Daredevil working

[08:22] together. I want to see more of

[08:23] Spider-Man and Venom working together.

[08:24] So maybe that is a note that Tom Holland

[08:26] took and that's going to be something

[08:27] that's addressed in this movie's

[08:28] postredit scene. We got to have the

[08:30] black suited Spider-Man somehow. I just

[08:32] don't know if this story is going to get

[08:34] it. I don't, you know, uh Amy Pascal

[08:36] even said that this movie is not about

[08:38] like a global crisis the way past ones

[08:40] were. It's more about a a street level

[08:43] story, an introspective journey for

[08:45] Peter Parker. Tom Holland said in the

[08:47] Fandango interview, it's not so much

[08:48] about saving the city or saving the

[08:50] world, it's about saving himself. And I

[08:53] don't know if you can say that there is

[08:54] an alien an alien symbiote in that type

[08:58] of scale of a story.

[09:01] Um yeah, Dave is also saying um Gan Gray

[09:04] is the big bad jumping from person to

[09:05] person based off of this trailer. I mean

[09:07] Satie Sink seems kind of villainous in

[09:09] what she's saying. How you know like

[09:11] she's threatening MJ. That kind of feels

[09:14] like a villainous type thing. Um, what's

[09:17] also kind of sad about this is like in

[09:19] this part of the trailer, Peter Parker

[09:21] is um not just like following Ned and MJ

[09:24] for their first day at MIT. This is now

[09:27] them in their final semester at MI MIT,

[09:29] which means for 4 years, unless they

[09:32] graduated early. For four years, this

[09:34] sad sack has been stalking Ned on

[09:37] Instagram, watching every single one of

[09:39] his stories. Imagine like when you're a

[09:40] high school kid, your friends go to

[09:42] college.

[09:44] Like, yeah, your lives go in separate

[09:46] ways. Are you really following them

[09:49] every Instagram post with the same sad

[09:51] look? What does that say about Peter

[09:53] Parker? He was never able to find new

[09:55] friends and move on even after, you

[09:57] know, the the Doctor Strange spell

[09:59] erased him from memory. He could have

[10:01] started over with the name Maynard, as

[10:03] he tells them his name is in the scene

[10:05] that I saw at Cineon, and like made new

[10:07] friends. Why? Uh, or he could have said,

[10:10] "My name's Peter." You know, because no

[10:11] one knows the name Peter Parker anyway.

[10:13] It's really sad to imagine this. It's

[10:15] also really sad that like Ned and MJ

[10:17] just became stronger and stronger

[10:19] friends during all that time. And they

[10:21] were not a trio, but a duo. But

[10:23] somewhere in MJ's heart, she's like,

[10:26] she's just so messed up by that spell.

[10:28] Like, why do I wear this necklace? I

[10:30] feel like there was another friend that

[10:32] we forgot about. Uh, imagine how creepy

[10:34] it is if at some point you're going to

[10:36] find out you had this other friend,

[10:38] lifelong friend that you accidentally

[10:40] ghosted over the past several years.

[10:43] That's why I think this movie, just

[10:44] dealing with the ramifications of the

[10:46] Doctor Strange spell is such an

[10:48] interesting story before you even bring

[10:50] in Hulk and Gan Gray and Punisher and

[10:52] the Hand and all this other stuff. just

[10:54] dealing with that is like a

[10:56] heartbreaking story that makes it makes

[10:58] it really exciting to me. Not only that

[10:59] they brought back um Eric Summers and

[11:01] Chris McKenna, but that they're bringing

[11:03] in Justin Critzy's to to help write that

[11:05] story. I think that is just a

[11:06] heartbreaking interesting story.

[11:09] Um yeah, to answer your question, I

[11:11] think Jackal is I don't know if he's

[11:12] going to be the main villain, but I do

[11:14] think that it's going to be the

[11:15] character Keith David is playing. We

[11:16] don't hear his voice in this trailer,

[11:18] but the whole spiders have three life

[11:20] cycles. I think there is going to be a

[11:22] Dr. Miles Warren, professor in the

[11:24] faculty of Empire State University. Main

[11:27] villain. I don't know about that,

[11:28] though. Uh, but Keith David is certainly

[11:30] capable and cool enough to be a main

[11:32] villain. I just think we would have

[11:33] heard about him if they he was going to

[11:35] be that important. We're only a month

[11:36] out, you know, 6 weeks out. Um, do we

[11:39] think the main villain is still not

[11:40] shown yet? Is it not Hulk or Jean Gray?

[11:42] Thank you for your super chat. Uh, two

[11:44] of KN Scoops. What's going on? Yeah. Um,

[11:49] yes. Um, I I think at this point we are

[11:53] seeing um we're seeing villainous

[11:56] presence. I don't

[12:00] like bad. I think there's a lot of

[12:01] villains that Peter Parker is facing in

[12:03] this, but like a story, even a superhero

[12:06] story doesn't always need a villain to

[12:08] be a good movie. Sometimes the vi like

[12:11] arguably I guess Spider-Man No Way Home

[12:13] Green Goblin ended up being a villain,

[12:15] but was he the same villain that Peter

[12:16] Parker was facing all three acts of that

[12:18] movie or just a consequence of the

[12:20] bigger crisis that Peter Parker was

[12:22] handling in that movie? Uh I don't know

[12:25] if like it's fair to say Green Goblin

[12:27] was the only big bad of that story

[12:30] despite him killing Aunt May. Um I just

[12:32] saw Toy Story 5 and I think that's a

[12:34] great example. You know, Pixar as a

[12:36] studio started in this model of having

[12:38] these rules that they were going to do

[12:40] to differentiate themselves from Disney

[12:42] animated films. And one of their rules

[12:43] was we're not going to have a villain.

[12:45] Now, obviously they backpedal from that.

[12:47] You know, um the Incredibles movies have

[12:49] villain. Lotso is a is a villain. U but

[12:52] I think Toy Story 5 reminds me a lot of

[12:54] Toy Story 1 in that there isn't like a

[12:58] definitive villain of the story. And I

[13:00] wonder if like just biology um um just

[13:03] the consequences of having to make

[13:05] sacrifices to better off your friends

[13:07] could be kind of the the op the

[13:09] antagonist of this movie and everything

[13:11] else is a consequence of that. Um or it

[13:14] could be like whatever nefarious human

[13:16] corporation is trying to weaponize gamma

[13:18] radiation detection technology. If you

[13:21] want me if you're going to press me to

[13:22] find a villain of that, it's going to be

[13:23] something like OCRP or the DODC.

[13:26] Um thank you for your super chat, Sarah.

[13:28] Did you watch the Ned promo vid of him

[13:30] launching his Spidey tracking app? I did

[13:32] watch that. Do you think Peter is being

[13:33] able to move when everyone else is

[13:34] frozen could be tied to how he can also

[13:36] move his physical body while in the

[13:37] astral plane? Yes, that is something

[13:38] that we go into in the Easter egg

[13:39] breakdown coming later today. Remember

[13:41] in Spider-Man No Way Home when Doctor

[13:43] Strange pushes Peter's astral form out

[13:44] of his body and Peter can use the Spidey

[13:47] sense as his astral form to still puppet

[13:49] his physical body. I think having the

[13:50] arachno frequency and that um in that

[13:53] spidey sense allows pet Peter to bypass

[13:56] certain magical attacks and even mutant

[13:59] powers that cause people's bodies to

[14:01] freeze. So I think that is why it

[14:03] doesn't affect Peter.

[14:06] Um Wesley Clark, thank you for your

[14:09] super chat saying Jean getting her

[14:10] Professor X on with freeze and

[14:12] possession of folks. Yeah. Uh we'll get

[14:14] to that later in this video, but jumping

[14:16] ahead here. Um you're not wrong. I mean,

[14:19] the way her powers manifest by like I'm

[14:22] trying to find the exact moment. Yeah,

[14:24] she kind of jumps from person to person.

[14:26] >> You okay? You get rid of that monster

[14:29] inside.

[14:30] >> Yeah, that kind of controlling of their

[14:32] bodies. I also really like how they um

[14:35] how they coached all the extras in this

[14:37] movie to freeze in a particular way.

[14:39] Yeah, this shock wave emitting from

[14:42] Roosevelt Island. That looks like the

[14:45] same prison facility. That's not

[14:46] normally on Roosevelt Island in

[14:49] Manhattan. Um, that I think is a prison

[14:51] facility where Gan Gray is being kept.

[14:54] Um, Roosevelt Island, famous of the

[14:56] Roosevelt Island tramway that you saw in

[14:58] Sam Ramy's Spider-Man 1 and in

[15:00] Spider-Man No Way Home. Um, she's

[15:02] releasing these shock waves that freeze

[15:04] people. Look. Uh, I mean, all these

[15:06] extras, the way they just kind of bend

[15:08] their bodies, it's just really great.

[15:10] Uh, spilling the tea and freezing the

[15:12] chopsticks like that. That is something

[15:14] that was I I don't think we've seen Gan

[15:16] Gray in live action ever do that, but

[15:17] certainly Charles Xavier, Professor X,

[15:19] they have similar power sets, and I do

[15:21] think I do think Sadie Stink is playing

[15:23] Gan Gray. I think it's at this point

[15:25] hard to make any other argument. What's

[15:27] interesting here is, doesn't it look

[15:28] like Frank Castle's also not immune or

[15:32] also is immune? like he's being spared

[15:34] by by Gan Gray for whatever reason. That

[15:37] I have a lot of questions about. What

[15:38] powers does he have other than, you

[15:41] know, torturing himself? Like that to me

[15:44] is equally fascinating.

[15:47] Um, thank you for your super chat,

[15:50] Indian Warrior 3. Glad they actually

[15:51] released a trailer today, unlike what

[15:53] Russa Brothers did at Coffeegate.

[15:55] Excited for your breakdown. Keep it up.

[15:56] Thank you. Yeah. Uh, Marvel Studios, get

[16:00] your get your trailer out there for the

[16:02] love of God. This is how exciting things

[16:05] can be when we're all living in this

[16:06] moment together on YouTube and publicly,

[16:08] whatever platform we're on. Um, while

[16:11] Sony's marketing decisions have been a

[16:12] little weird, here we are during

[16:15] business daylight hours uh, in America

[16:18] and we're able to just react to a

[16:19] trailer. This is great marketing. I

[16:21] mean, uh, have you gotten your ticket

[16:22] yet for Spider-Man Brand New Day? I was

[16:24] able to get mine, but like the weight

[16:25] list was was almost as hard as many

[16:27] theaters for the Odyssey. Um, and the

[16:29] Odyssey was just like P pl PLF screens.

[16:32] This is just like any screen. A little

[16:33] bummer that uh Spider-Man Brand New Day

[16:35] doesn't appear to be on IMAX, but that's

[16:37] because the Odyssey is going to have all

[16:38] the IMAX screens wrapped up, but that

[16:40] might even be better for this movie. I

[16:42] think this movie is going to be best

[16:43] watched in Dolby if you have an

[16:44] opportunity to see it. Um, I just think

[16:47] any of the sound effects that they do

[16:48] with like the voices Peter hears, the

[16:52] roaring, the thipping, all this stuff,

[16:54] it's going to be really fun. And Dolby

[16:55] always does a good job. There they did

[16:57] have a promo today saying that they're

[16:58] going to do special stuff with Screen X

[17:00] where they actually shot specific

[17:02] bespoke footage that's going to be on

[17:03] the side screens for Screen X. Nothing

[17:06] against Screen X. I think certain movies

[17:07] are great to watch that way. I It's just

[17:10] not my preferred way. And I think but I

[17:12] do like hearing that they did try to

[17:13] shoot stuff specifically for that. But I

[17:16] also am someone who's a sucker for just

[17:17] the frame itself as it was. That to me

[17:20] is the cinematic tradition that we've

[17:22] been part of our entire lives. I don't

[17:24] need something to where I can look over

[17:26] here and ignore what's happening on the

[17:28] main screen and just be entertained over

[17:29] here. To me, that's not a cinematic

[17:31] experience. That's like a different kind

[17:33] of immersive experience. That's not

[17:35] necessarily not fun, but it's just not

[17:37] the cinematic experience that I am used

[17:40] to. Uh, another take here. Thank you for

[17:44] your super chat, Martin. I personally

[17:45] think Holland won't have the symbiote in

[17:47] a major way. Maybe just for Secret Wars,

[17:49] but I'd like to see a live action MCU

[17:50] Miles Morales deal dealing with a

[17:52] symbiote just to change it up a bit. I

[17:53] agree. I think uh I'd like to see how

[17:55] Miles reacts to a symbiote. Um, there is

[17:58] a liveaction Miles Morales who exists in

[18:00] the 616 universe. Donald Glover played

[18:03] Aaron Davis and talked about a nephew

[18:05] who lives in the area. So, he's already

[18:07] there. We just have to wait till after

[18:09] 2027 Spider-Man beyond the Spider-Verse

[18:11] before we're going to see that Miles in

[18:13] the MCU. So, it may be in Secret Wars.

[18:17] It may be in some Spider-Man movie,

[18:19] Spider-Man 5. Tom Holland has even said

[18:20] in an interview that he wants to be the

[18:21] mentor figure to the SpiderGwen or the

[18:23] Miles Morales uh the way Robert Downey

[18:26] Jr. was for him. So, I think it's going

[18:27] to happen.

[18:30] Uh, oh, another theory for symbiots.

[18:32] Thank you for your super chat. Um, could

[18:34] couldn't the dark eyes be a small dollop

[18:36] of goop symbiote turning Spidey little

[18:38] by little? I like that theory a lot. I

[18:41] uh I don't think that's exactly what it

[18:44] is, but you know what? I've been wrong

[18:45] before. Um I think that could work here.

[18:48] Let's take a look at that again. Um the

[18:51] black eyes is just it looks really good.

[18:54] It's just um the symbiote

[18:57] um doesn't necessarily just manifest in

[18:59] the eyes first. It does other things

[19:02] first. But um I really do like that

[19:04] theory. If it if that ends up being the

[19:06] case, I wouldn't be disappointed.

[19:09] Uh another question here. Do you think

[19:10] we get to see the Phoenix Force at the

[19:12] end scene that sets up Secret Wars?

[19:17] I I don't know if it would be the

[19:18] postredit scene of this movie because I

[19:20] think the postredit scene is going to be

[19:23] more singularly focused on Doomsday, but

[19:26] I think there will be another scene

[19:27] somewhere in this movie that hints at

[19:30] the fact that she has this other cosmic

[19:32] force that attaches to her. Over under

[19:35] 20% MJ remembers Peter Spider-Man by the

[19:38] end of the movie. I think over 20%. I

[19:40] think um MJ is I mean she's still

[19:42] wearing the black Dalia necklace that he

[19:44] got her in Far From Home. Um, I think

[19:47] there's part of her who is going to have

[19:50] her memory uh reattached. I think this

[19:53] movie is going to address the exact

[19:55] logic and mechanics of the memory wipe

[19:57] spell and how it might have warped

[19:59] reality in other ways. One of the things

[20:00] that the script pages a destined to

[20:03] entertainment weekly showed is that the

[20:05] opening Marvel titles of this movie are

[20:07] going to show like Back to the Future

[20:09] Marty McFly photos that just fade Peter

[20:11] Parker from the physical media evidence

[20:13] of his existence. So, there's pictures

[20:15] with Ned and MJ and Aunt May and then

[20:17] Peter's just going to fade from those.

[20:19] This movie isn't just quickly moving on

[20:20] from the events of No Way Home. It's

[20:22] it's readressing them in a way that I

[20:24] think could matter a lot to the history

[20:26] of the MCU. Um, and I think we're going

[20:29] to find out exactly what powers can

[20:30] overrule the ruins of Cough Call. And is

[20:33] there something about just love and

[20:35] affection that bypasses those borders of

[20:37] known and unknown realities? Could that

[20:39] be some kind of mechanism that can help

[20:42] the Avengers in Doomsday or Secret Wars?

[20:46] Uh, thank you for your super chat. Do

[20:47] you think they're going to do Hulk

[20:48] justice in this movie? What's your

[20:49] thoughts on Hulk specifically? All

[20:50] right, let's get to the Hulk of it all.

[20:54] Where are we, Mr. Hulk? Here we go. So,

[20:57] this Hulk just looks great in this. Can

[21:00] we just talk about him here? Uh, Peter's

[21:02] like, I didn't know you could get that

[21:03] big. I really, really love that detail.

[21:06] Um because normally Smart Hulk is only

[21:10] designed by the VFX animators to be 7

[21:13] foot 5 in, but Savage Hulk from Thor

[21:16] Ragnarok from Age of Ultron is meant to

[21:18] be 8'5 in. So they shrunk him a little

[21:21] bit to make him more, I don't know,

[21:23] humanistic intelligent approachable

[21:25] less of a monster. Uh but they also

[21:27] nerfed him by doing that. So letting him

[21:29] be as big as he is here lets the

[21:32] character be the character. Uh, it seems

[21:34] like Sades Sinks powers, uh, Gan Gay's

[21:37] powers are tapping into Bruce Banner

[21:39] subconscious or at least damages his,

[21:42] uh, Hulk suppressor, gamma suppressor

[21:44] device. I do think gamma radiation is

[21:47] going to be very important to this

[21:49] story. I think gamma radiation is kind

[21:51] of the key not only to the Hulk's

[21:52] powers, but I do think it's going to be

[21:54] the key to all mutant powers. I think uh

[21:56] there's a moment where Sadi Sink uh or

[21:59] repeater is kind of tracking her in this

[22:01] trailer through the wedding terrace

[22:04] where here I just saw it um where like

[22:09] uh there's like a numerical

[22:12] sorry about that

[22:15] here it is okay so what's going on here

[22:18] right I think these numbers refer to

[22:20] gamma radiation that uh is kind of

[22:23] presence present in the minds of the

[22:25] whom um who Satie Sinks or Gan Gray is

[22:30] kind of jumping into. Uh I don't think

[22:32] it's distance, right? Because that's

[22:34] 0.59, that's 5.31.

[22:37] I think it refers to like the amount of

[22:38] gamma radiation. That would be the only

[22:40] way any kind of technical interface

[22:42] could detect it. Uh if you look in the

[22:45] upper screen here, it's a Wi-Fi

[22:46] connected thing. I think this pet this

[22:48] is Peter's new AI service. EV stands for

[22:52] Eric Voss. Uh that is I'm just kidding.

[22:54] it's not my name uh that is detecting

[22:56] these things. Uh and I think there would

[22:58] have to be some kind of radiation

[22:59] signature left there. And if that's the

[23:02] case, it would mean that like genes gene

[23:03] gay's powers have a gamma radiation

[23:05] signature. And maybe every mutant has

[23:07] some kind of gamma radiation that makes

[23:09] them the way that they are, right? Maybe

[23:11] the Xgene kind of signals a type of

[23:14] gamma radiation. Uh maybe the gamma

[23:16] radiation is a signature that's left

[23:18] there by the runes of cough call that

[23:19] warped the reality in a specific way. I

[23:21] don't know. But he's detecting something

[23:23] that's some kind of physical trace that

[23:26] he's able to detect here. So that's why

[23:28] I think that's a connection I think uh

[23:30] with Bruce Banner. I think this if it is

[23:33] gamma radiation that could explain why

[23:35] it damages uh Bruce's device, why Bruce

[23:39] is Hulking out, why she's able to do

[23:41] this. Um in the interview that came out

[23:44] today, they indicated that a green Hulk

[23:46] is not going to be the only color of

[23:47] Hulk that we see in this movie. That

[23:49] there's going to be a gray Hulk as well.

[23:51] They didn't say gray, but they said that

[23:52] there are other colors. Jacob Battleon

[23:55] might have been referring to the fact

[23:56] that there are there's a red Hulk, but I

[23:58] think that was just him covering for

[23:59] Zenaia in that moment. I think we're

[24:01] going to see a further greyhulk form.

[24:03] Not necessarily a Joe fix it Vegas thug

[24:06] enforcer form, but like a greyhulk form

[24:08] that can speak in complete sentences and

[24:10] be willing to do morally corrupt things.

[24:12] Whereas Green Hulk isn't like evil. He's

[24:14] kind of chaotic neutral. Um, he's just

[24:16] kind of a rage monster who's just

[24:18] generally angry at anything that gets in

[24:20] his way.

[24:21] uh Greyhulk can control it a bit more

[24:23] focused and I think she's going to send

[24:25] him after whatever the proprietary gamma

[24:28] detection software and technology that

[24:30] the bad guys of this movie have whether

[24:32] it be the DODC or OC Corp or some other

[24:36] entity Horizon Labs Alchemax something.

[24:39] Um but isn't this cool how like we're in

[24:41] some kind of lab here. light projected

[24:44] on his chest and his traps here is like

[24:47] from some kind of uh digital readout

[24:49] that reminds me of the the raptor in

[24:51] Jurassic Park when the the DNA base

[24:54] pairs are projected on the raptor skin.

[24:56] I think one of my favorite Spielberg

[24:58] shots of that movie. Um we also get to

[25:01] see a Hulk thunderclap and isn't that

[25:03] just

[25:06] how I've missed the Hulk thunderclap? We

[25:08] haven't gotten a proper Thunderclap, I

[25:11] think, since the 2008 Hulk movie. Yeah,

[25:14] we got to see Thunderclaps in uh in

[25:15] She-Hulk. But that wasn't the same

[25:17] thing. It was more about showing how

[25:18] She-Hulk could quickly kind of coin flip

[25:20] and learn uh instinctively how to do

[25:23] Thunderclaps that were even more

[25:24] powerful than her cousins were. The fact

[25:26] that we get to see him use it on Peter

[25:28] Parker here is just like, "Yes,

[25:30] finally." The reason we haven't seen the

[25:32] Thunderclaps is Jos Sweden thought the

[25:33] move was lame and didn't put it in

[25:34] 2012's Avengers or 2015's Age of Ultron.

[25:37] Uh, the Russo brothers in general didn't

[25:40] really know how to like shoot the Hulk

[25:42] in a way that fit in the stories they

[25:43] were trying to tell, but clearly Destin

[25:45] Daniel [ __ ] loves the character and

[25:46] Tom Holland loves the character and is

[25:48] like restoring what we loved about the

[25:50] character.

[25:52] Um, another super chat. Thank you. Uh,

[25:54] do you think that Gene might mind

[25:56] control Frank for protection? Like maybe

[25:57] he's the most capable person to get her

[25:59] out of the prison. Yeah, maybe. I think

[26:00] there's some kind of the one connection

[26:02] I saw with uh Punisher: One Last Kill is

[26:04] that uh Frank is very easily susceptible

[26:08] to daughter figures who are being

[26:10] oppressed in some way. Like just seeing

[26:12] the Bodega owner's daughter being

[26:14] threatened in this movie reminded him of

[26:16] his daughter and I think he's going to

[26:19] transfer that to Satie Sinks character

[26:21] in this movie. So I think there's going

[26:23] to be like a protective relationship. We

[26:25] just haven't seen the two of them in a

[26:27] scene in the trailer yet. Interesting

[26:29] that we saw Frank Castle and Zenaia MJ

[26:32] in a scene yet. Do you still think

[26:34] Daredevil is a possibility? I do. I do.

[26:37] Even though like Charlie Cox has made it

[26:39] very clear that he doesn't want us to

[26:41] think that he's in this movie. It's

[26:43] these scenes with the hand. Like we have

[26:45] a lot of different shots with the hand

[26:47] and we don't see the shot in this

[26:48] trailer, but like Tom Holland did say in

[26:50] the interview that like they really did

[26:52] 65 takes at least to get the shot that

[26:54] we had in the previous trailer where we

[26:56] think like someone was scrubbed out of

[26:57] it. Andrew Garfield take a look at that

[26:59] took a look at that scrubbed out photo

[27:00] and just said like, "Well, you can say

[27:02] anybody was scrubbed out of anything."

[27:04] Um, I don't know. I believe Charlie Cox

[27:06] when he says this, but I also I can't

[27:08] believe any of these actors when they

[27:09] say anything.

[27:13] Uh, thank you for your super chat. Since

[27:15] they are kind of following the Neoenics

[27:17] nightmare, when the character jumping

[27:18] person to person be an updated

[27:20] chameleon, I you know more about that

[27:23] than I do. Um, I think that is clearly

[27:26] at this point in the trailer some kind

[27:27] of effect of of Sadi Sink's power set.

[27:30] It is something that is psychic and

[27:32] telepathic in a specific way. Uh, it's

[27:34] something that can manifest in physical

[27:36] changes. So, I think you could look at

[27:38] things in different lenses and kind of

[27:40] make a case for whatever your theory is,

[27:41] but I just think the most logical

[27:43] explanation for what we're seeing is

[27:44] that this is how the MCU Gan Gray is

[27:46] going to work.

[27:49] Uh, seems like Pun Pun will be watching

[27:51] over MJ. Uh, also is Marissa Toé

[27:54] narrating at the end. Um, that is

[27:57] Marissa Toé's voice at the end of it.

[28:00] Um, that Peter is I I don't know. It's

[28:02] interesting that they bring back Marissa

[28:03] Toé to say a bit of wisdom. I kind of

[28:05] wonder, are we going to see a flashback

[28:07] with Aunt May? I think we must. Um,

[28:11] thank you for asking that twice. I

[28:12] really appreciate that. Um, thank you

[28:15] for your super chat, Marco saying, I

[28:17] think Gan Gray in this instance is a

[28:18] consequence of great power without

[28:20] responsibility. It might be showing that

[28:22] Gan Gray without the X-Men guidance

[28:23] suggest a very moral question morally

[28:26] questionable behavior. I love that

[28:28] interpretation. Yeah, I think you're

[28:29] right. I think like there's a lot of

[28:31] characters who with uh are going to have

[28:34] great power but no responsibility.

[28:35] That's going to be advice that a lot of

[28:37] characters take. And I I think that's

[28:38] going to be the core reason why you

[28:40] introduce Gan Gray in a Spider-Man movie

[28:42] is that you need to see young, very

[28:44] powerful characters in the MCU that

[28:47] don't really know what to do with their

[28:48] powers and and then blame the oppression

[28:50] they're feeling on everybody without

[28:52] realizing that, oh, despite the people

[28:54] who scorn and hate you, you still owe

[28:57] the world the best application of your

[28:59] powers. Um, yeah. Yeah, and that's a

[29:02] hard lesson to learn if you have someone

[29:04] like, you know, Jean Gray who's being

[29:07] imprisoned by the DODC.

[29:09] Oh, a theory here from Bohob. Thanks for

[29:11] the super chat. Sticking with my theory

[29:12] that the eyes are actually mutation

[29:14] derived from instant kill mode. The

[29:16] coloration feels similar. Maybe he's

[29:18] mutating uh attributes inspired from

[29:21] certain people like organic webbing from

[29:23] Toby. Really, really cool theory there.

[29:25] Remember instant kill mode? how it was

[29:27] like this intimidation voice that he

[29:28] used on uh Donald Glover's character in

[29:31] Spider-Man Homecoming. It was from a

[29:32] Spider-Man Homecoming affect that in

[29:34] addition to his arachn frequency picking

[29:37] up tips and design a effects from uh his

[29:39] brothers Toby and Andrew from their

[29:41] alternate universes that just the Stark

[29:44] tech mode uh there's certain kind of

[29:46] benefits um of those of those suits and

[29:50] features that he might have

[29:51] internalized. Um, I like that idea that

[29:55] there could be an organic version of

[29:56] instant kill mode. I think we want to be

[29:58] very careful doing too much Stark tech

[30:00] in this movie. I think that is a lesson

[30:02] that they're really trying to apply. But

[30:03] if there is like an organic take on it

[30:05] the same way we have organic webbing, I

[30:06] think that could be really fun. Yeah,

[30:08] answered this question earlier. I I do

[30:10] think there's still a chance I think

[30:11] just a small chance that Daredevil's

[30:13] going to be in this movie. But thanks

[30:14] for the super chat. Um, another question

[30:16] here. By chance, do you think the hood

[30:18] on Satie Synync is just for the trailers

[30:20] and won't be a hood at all for the

[30:21] actual movie? I do think this is how

[30:23] she's going to be dressed in the movie.

[30:25] Um I don't think that's just like a

[30:27] digitally added thing. Um because we've

[30:30] seen her in set photos wearing this kind

[30:31] of outfit. Oh, sorry. It's earlier in

[30:34] the trailer.

[30:36] Um

[30:38] yeah, I I think that's how she's going

[30:40] to look in the movie. I don't think

[30:41] they're they're hiding anything here.

[30:44] But it is interesting that she's in

[30:45] Peter Parker's apartment. That's

[30:47] something I can't figure out is like

[30:50] she she's in his home. I I'll admit it's

[30:52] weird that her face is completely

[30:54] blacked out like a Sith or something

[30:55] like that. Um like maybe we'll see more

[30:58] of her face in the final cut of the

[31:00] trailer and trying to hide it, but like

[31:01] we all know this is Sadi Sink. I don't

[31:03] know why they would hide her face that

[31:04] much in this shot unless there's

[31:06] something particular about her face that

[31:09] you know would spoil it.

[31:12] Uh thanks for your super chat. Could the

[31:14] monster inside you that Gene refers to

[31:16] on the trailer be a reference or hint to

[31:17] a possible man spider mutation? You

[31:20] know, uh, with the second trailer, I

[31:22] was, uh, more bullish on the man spider

[31:25] theory that Peter's mutation is going to

[31:28] have him grow extra arms. Uh, I think we

[31:31] might just get a hint to that and maybe

[31:34] like kind of a nightmare that he has or

[31:35] a hallucination or or I think it might

[31:38] be a brief thing that we see, but I

[31:40] don't think it's going to be a big part

[31:41] of this movie. I think it's just a

[31:43] little too freaky and weird for a movie

[31:45] that they want to make $2 billion. I

[31:47] think it's it it can be part it can be a

[31:49] glimpse of something, but I don't think

[31:51] it's going to be a big like, you know,

[31:53] American Werewolf in London type plot

[31:55] where his body just starts getting that

[31:57] freaky.

[31:59] Will Hulk remember Peter like in the

[32:00] comics? Yeah, this is a question we've

[32:02] uh addressed a lot. Um will um does Hulk

[32:06] does a savage Hulk form remember who

[32:09] Peter Parker is? The argument I've made

[32:11] is that Hulk, this Savage Hulk form

[32:13] never knew that Peter Parker was

[32:15] Spider-Man. that they never were

[32:18] together at the same time. And Hulk is

[32:20] always so angry. I don't think he's like

[32:21] collecting information like that and

[32:23] storing it the same way we do. Um, they

[32:26] were in the Central Park battle, but

[32:27] that was before, you know, Hulk was off

[32:30] world for most of the time Peter Parker

[32:32] was with the Avengers. He we saw him in

[32:34] Infinity War going, "Wait, there's an

[32:36] Ant-Man and a Spider-Man." But that

[32:37] point Peter was off world on the Q ship

[32:39] going to Titan and then he dusted on

[32:41] Titan. Um, now obviously he probably

[32:43] would have picked up some information as

[32:45] he was Mark Ruffalo human or uh um Bruce

[32:49] Banner form. Uh, his Peter Parker's face

[32:52] was among the dusted victims at the

[32:54] beginning of Endgame. So, he probably

[32:55] figured it out from there. But at that

[32:57] point, you know, Savage Hulk never

[32:58] really came out and after getting beaten

[33:00] by Thanos in Infinity War. So, Smart

[33:02] Hulk obviously would know, but I don't

[33:03] know if Savage Hulk would know that

[33:05] information. So, it's it's kind of hard

[33:07] to know.

[33:09] Okay. Yeah, let's look at this part of

[33:11] the trailer when he sees Ned's research

[33:14] wall. I believe there are some fun

[33:16] Easter eggs here. Um, this whole idea of

[33:20] a Latino parkour prodigy. Obviously,

[33:22] there's a Miguel O'Hara, a Latino

[33:24] Spider-Man who exists in the multiverse,

[33:25] but this is Carlos Rodriguez, someone

[33:27] else. Um, uh, I think we find a lot of

[33:31] fun look alikes, and I think there will

[33:33] be, um, some Easter eggs in this that I

[33:35] I will be breaking down. Uh the whole

[33:37] idea of a queen's accent is very very

[33:39] funny to me because um Tom Holland

[33:41] deliberately choosing to do a Queen's

[33:43] accent is part of the reason why this

[33:45] all works. Um

[33:47] but uh it's like the fact that Tom

[33:49] Holland doesn't just do a generic

[33:50] Brooklyn accent. Um I think I I don't

[33:54] know. I have a theory this might be

[33:55] Harry Holland. This might be Tom's

[33:57] brother. Looking at it now, I don't

[33:58] know. I think it's just another kind of

[33:59] boy who looks like this. Um, they call

[34:02] him 5'7 and a half, which is really

[34:04] funny because it's one is half an inch

[34:05] shorter than Tom Holland actually is.

[34:08] Um,

[34:09] yeah, there's a there's a fun detail

[34:11] from the Cineacon scene that I saw where

[34:13] like Ned thinks like the Flash, like you

[34:16] not the Flash, Flash, Eugene Thompson is

[34:19] uh is a suspect along with Mr.

[34:21] Harrington. So, I think there's just

[34:22] like a lot of fun fun bits that they're

[34:25] going to be doing here.

[34:31] Thanks for your super chat. As soon as

[34:32] my son uh Kawa and I saw the wedding

[34:35] cake, we thought it was Zenaia on the

[34:36] drama. Is she getting married again?

[34:38] Whose wedding is that? I predict Peter

[34:40] asks MJ to marry her in the ending. I I

[34:42] have not seen the drama yet. I know

[34:44] generally what it's about. I love this

[34:46] shot in the trailer when he does knock

[34:48] over that wedding cake. It's very funny.

[34:50] >> One we can't even see.

[34:52] >> I'm looking for the shot in particular,

[34:55] but I know what you're talking about.

[34:57] Um, yeah, you know, Tom and Zenaia in

[35:00] real life are married. That was

[35:02] confirmed. Um, we all kind of knew they

[35:05] were married for several months now, but

[35:07] he confirmed it recently in an

[35:08] interview. Um, I think if if MJ is still

[35:13] trying to remember that she had a third

[35:15] or had had another friend, a third of

[35:17] that trio, I think jumping straight to a

[35:20] proposal would be a little premature.

[35:22] Uh, I don't know. I don't know if like

[35:24] MJ and Peter are going to end up

[35:26] together in this movie. I think that's

[35:27] just like too hard. I don't know if

[35:29] they're each other's forever people. And

[35:30] I think part of this is going to be um

[35:33] Peter learning to move on.

[35:38] Hell yeah. Go Nicks.

[35:41] Um yeah. Uh in this Let's see if there's

[35:44] any shots where Daredevil could appear.

[35:46] I don't think Daredevil's in the prison

[35:48] here.

[35:49] I mean, I don't know. I mean, this is

[35:51] like my favorite stunt in the trailer.

[35:53] Look at that. So cool.

[35:57] >> Maybe in the final shot where Peter's

[35:59] jumping from the rubble.

[36:01] Yeah, I don't think we see

[36:05] Daredevil here though. Isn't it

[36:06] interesting this building? Is it the

[36:08] Empire State Building or is it some

[36:10] other building that's way taller than

[36:12] the other buildings of New York? Like

[36:13] look, there's no other skyscrapers here.

[36:16] Um,

[36:17] kind of looks like Empire State or it

[36:19] could be a new tower,

[36:21] an Oscorp tower or something like that.

[36:24] I don't think I'm not seeing any shots

[36:25] where Daredevil might have been scrubbed

[36:26] out.

[36:29] Yes, I agree JC. I think uh like the

[36:32] line in Christopher Nolan's

[36:33] Interstellar, love is the one variable

[36:36] that surpasses gravity, time, and

[36:38] dimension.

[36:40] Um Owen's not a fan of the organic

[36:43] webbing. And I think web shooters lead

[36:44] to interesting dilemmas like the one at

[36:46] the end of Far From Home. I think that

[36:49] we will still see those dilemmas in this

[36:51] movie. Um I think the organic webbing is

[36:54] just an exploration of this movie. Uh

[36:57] but there's like a shot where Peter's

[36:58] like something happens here.

[37:03] Like I don't know if that's from the

[37:04] organic webbing. I think that's like a

[37:06] web cartridge exploding. We also know

[37:09] that Peter's gonna have gamma wedding

[37:10] webbing in this. So, I think that's

[37:12] going to be um an artificial thing that

[37:15] he you still see some of those

[37:17] complications with. Um I think Peter's

[37:19] still going to do a lot of tinkering.

[37:21] You know, I think that's a core part of

[37:23] this Peter that is still going to be

[37:24] part of the street level story they're

[37:26] telling. But I I get your concern.

[37:29] You think that looks like Greyhulk in

[37:31] the scene where he's fallen? Let me look

[37:33] at it again.

[37:35] I don't know. He looks pretty green to

[37:36] me in that.

[37:38] Yeah, that's about that's greener than

[37:40] even the other green shots of Green

[37:42] Hulk. Um, it I mean the effects of this

[37:46] look a little rotoscoped painted on.

[37:48] I'll say that. But who cares? It's more

[37:51] about the

[37:53] the context of whatever the hell is

[37:55] going on here that I find interesting.

[38:00] Big fan Eve. Thank you for your super

[38:02] chat. Uh, trailer makes Gene look a bit

[38:05] evil. Is that the case? If not, who's

[38:08] the main bad guy? Wink wink misto. Ah,

[38:10] don't think it's Meisto.

[38:13] But yeah, Jean does seem kind of mean

[38:15] the way she's like going after MJ

[38:17] specifically and taunting Peter about

[38:19] that. I don't know. I I do think that

[38:22] she's going to be somewhat villainous,

[38:23] but I do think there's going to be a

[38:24] greater villain in this.

[38:27] Uh, looks like Sadi Sink's character

[38:29] also gets larger before Hulga could be a

[38:30] different effect.

[38:31] >> He might.

[38:32] >> Are you talking about here when she

[38:34] >> But he might. But he might

[38:39] >> Oh, I hear what you're saying. No, I

[38:41] think that's just like the camera

[38:42] pushing in closer to her, but I think

[38:44] that's kind of like an intentive effect.

[38:45] Like we're seeing her kind of doing this

[38:47] to Bruce's body. What's interesting is

[38:49] Bruce is in a completely different

[38:50] location. Um, so I don't know if it's

[38:52] just trailer editing suggesting that

[38:54] she's doing this in this moment, but I I

[38:56] do think she is causing him uh to go

[38:59] through this.

[39:02] Another super chat here. Do you think

[39:03] Bruce Banner regains control of his Hulk

[39:05] form by the end of the movie or will the

[39:07] threat of Savage Hulk continue into his

[39:10] possible appearance in Doomsday and

[39:12] Secret Wars? We don't know if the Hulk

[39:14] is going to be in Doomsday. I assume

[39:16] he's going to be in Secret Wars. I hope

[39:18] that we get a Savage Hulk in Secret

[39:20] Wars. I I personally don't like the gray

[39:23] Hulk thing. I I want my Hulk to be

[39:25] green. Um so if we have a Grey Hulk, I

[39:28] hope it's like a temporary phase that

[39:30] he's in. I just we haven't gotten enough

[39:32] green Hulk in the MCU. So, if we get a

[39:34] Hulk in Secret Wars, I just want it to

[39:36] be a Savage Hulk. I there's so many fun

[39:38] playgrounds within Battle World that I

[39:40] just want to see Savage Hulk smash

[39:42] through. He's more fun as a character

[39:44] that way than someone who can complete

[39:46] full sentences. Um, so I I kind of don't

[39:50] want him to I want him to get back to

[39:52] classic Hulk. I don't want any wrist

[39:54] gamma suppressor device. I want Hulk I

[39:57] want Bruce Banner to have to walk this

[39:58] world and just have to maintain through

[40:01] steady breathing and um and temper

[40:04] control exercises

[40:06] uh his balance with this Hulk identity.

[40:10] Um thank you for your super chat. It

[40:12] would be a big missed opportunity not to

[40:14] feature Daredevil. Why do you think

[40:16] Spider-Man is in jail then? Yeah, I I

[40:18] think that's like a fair question to

[40:20] ask. Like he's breaking into some prison

[40:23] facility, some DODC vault. Yeah, this

[40:26] brick structure. That's definitely what

[40:27] we saw on uh

[40:29] >> on Roosevelt Island. Um

[40:33] yeah, I don't know why The Hand is all

[40:35] in this prison. I don't know why The

[40:36] Hand is back uh in general. Um but I do

[40:41] agree with you. I think this movie does

[40:43] need a Daredevil in it, even a Matt

[40:45] Murdoch in it. Um it's just Matt

[40:48] Murdoch, I think, is going to begin

[40:49] Daredevil Born Again season 3 in that

[40:51] jail. The photo that Mike Coulter shared

[40:54] was um like Luke Cage in the prison

[40:58] location with Charlie Cox wearing the

[41:00] the orange suit and then at the end of

[41:02] Daredevil Born Again season 2, we didn't

[41:04] see Luke Cage in that prison yet. So

[41:06] that was a shot from season 3 and then

[41:07] Matt's still in jail at the start of

[41:09] season 3. So that's why I just don't

[41:10] think we're going to see him getting

[41:11] broken out of a prison. Um I also think

[41:14] it's a different prison than whatever

[41:16] this is.

[41:18] Someone else asking, "It's pretty clear

[41:20] Electra is returning to Daryl Born again

[41:22] season 3. Do you think we get a smaller

[41:23] minor cameo from Electra in the hand?" I

[41:26] don't think they're going to use this

[41:27] movie to bring in Ellie Young as

[41:30] Electra. Um, but I do think you're

[41:32] right. I think she's going to be in

[41:33] Daredevil Born Again season 3.

[41:36] Um, another question about the symbiote.

[41:37] Do you think they're saving the symbiote

[41:39] from the movies postredit scene for the

[41:41] very very end to tie in with Secret

[41:42] Wars? Yeah, someone else asked this

[41:43] before. I think if we see the symbiote

[41:45] at all, it would tie in with like a

[41:46] postredit scene. Usually with these um

[41:49] Sony Marvel co-productions, we've seen

[41:52] two postredit scenes, one for Marvel,

[41:54] one for Sony. Um you know, Spider-Man No

[41:57] Way Home had a post-redit scene with Tom

[41:59] Hardy as Venom, something that kind of

[42:00] tied in with Venom: The Last Dance. Sort

[42:02] of, not really. And then the other

[42:04] postredit scene was just kind of a

[42:05] trailer for Multiverse of Madness. Uh

[42:08] that was one for Marvel. in Spider-Man

[42:10] Far From Home. Remember, we had one that

[42:12] was kind of setting up the scene that

[42:14] would lead off Spider-Man No Way Home

[42:16] where it was bring back Jay K. Simmons

[42:19] as Jonah Jameson and and having Team

[42:21] Mysterio with the posumous video

[42:23] revealing that Peter Parker's

[42:24] Spider-Man. That was like the Sony the

[42:26] Sony one. And then the Marvel one was

[42:28] revealing Nick Fury and Maria Hill as as

[42:30] scrolls. Something I don't know what

[42:32] that was going to set up. Secret

[42:33] Invasion, another uh Captain Marvel

[42:36] sequel or something like that. I I don't

[42:38] know exactly what that was going

[42:40] forward, but definitely a Marvel Studios

[42:42] one. Um, so with this one, we're gonna

[42:44] have one that sets up like

[42:47] something that Sony wants, which is like

[42:49] more Venom, more Spidey Venom

[42:51] connection. And I think we're going to

[42:53] have one that sets up like specifically

[42:55] Battle World or or or Gan Gray's future

[42:58] as uh as one of the X-Men um or

[43:02] something that Peter Parker might

[43:03] actually show up in Doomsday or or some

[43:05] kind of incursion in the sky. Uh, like

[43:07] the question is like is Marvel Studios

[43:10] going to be using this summer 2026 movie

[43:12] to set up Secret Wars at the very end of

[43:14] 2027 or are they going to use it to

[43:17] really set up the movie that they need

[43:18] to make a lot of money at the end of

[43:19] 2026. So just based on that, you know,

[43:23] financially motivated question, I I do

[43:26] think it's more likely that they set up

[43:28] Doomsday more than Secret Wars. So that

[43:30] would leave Sadi Sync out of it. And I

[43:32] think there's going to be an earlier

[43:33] scene in the movie that sets up the

[43:34] X-Men of it all that isn't necessarily

[43:37] the postredit scene.

[43:40] Another question here. Feel like the

[43:41] scene is going to be Peter asking,

[43:43] "What's your name in in her going Jean?"

[43:45] Jean Gray. A little 007 coded there. Um

[43:49] I think we'll learn her name earlier in

[43:51] the movie, just not in the postredit

[43:52] scene. Um look at the helicopter window.

[43:56] It has Riker's names on it. John Riker

[43:59] will be in the BTS. Oh. Oh, does it have

[44:01] recorders? I remember seeing John, the

[44:03] name John and Lucy, right?

[44:07] I know what you're talking about here.

[44:08] We're gonna go through it.

[44:10] >> I'm MJ.

[44:17] >> Where's that? I think it's earlier in

[44:19] the trailer. Sorry.

[44:26] Um,

[44:30] stand by. Here we go. I see John and

[44:34] Lucy uh, just married. I don't see Riker

[44:37] on it. I'm thinking this could be John

[44:39] Jameson, Jonah's son. You know,

[44:40] Spider-Man 2 had the whole thing of him

[44:42] paying for his son's wedding with MJ and

[44:44] then she ran out. Uh, it'd be really

[44:46] funny. I mean, JK Simmons still exists

[44:48] in this in this New York running the

[44:49] Daily Bugle. Maybe he used his uh

[44:52] company's helicopter to do this. But

[44:54] here, I want to see what you're talking

[44:55] about with Rikers.

[44:58] I'm not seeing Rikers uh with a Y or an

[45:02] I. Just seemed like a helicopter caution

[45:04] sign here. It's pretty dangerous to land

[45:06] helicopters on some of these landing

[45:07] pads when they're lower than the

[45:09] buildings around them. Uh also crazy to

[45:12] put a helicopter as like a sendoff

[45:14] goodbye when the when the cocktail hour

[45:16] or the wedding is so close. like all

[45:18] these people's hair is going to be

[45:20] destroyed.

[45:22] Uh yeah, this to me I'm like most

[45:24] excited to dig into for the Easter egg

[45:26] breakdown. Not seeing Riker. Uh but I do

[45:29] think uh those names like it's some kind

[45:31] of wedding that Peter is wrecking.

[45:35] Another question here. What do you think

[45:36] Peter did to trigger Savage Hulk in that

[45:39] room scene? Was it even Peter? Yeah, I

[45:41] think it was I think it was Gan Gray. I

[45:42] think it was Satie Sync who triggers him

[45:44] in that moment. But also either way, it

[45:46] looks like the device just gets damaged

[45:47] in some way. So, anything could have

[45:49] done that damage. Um, you know, it it

[45:52] doesn't even have to be Gan Gray getting

[45:54] to his head that caused that thing to

[45:55] get ruptured.

[45:58] Another silly question, but do you think

[45:59] Destin Daniel [ __ ] maybe may

[46:01] incorporate the 10 rings with the hand

[46:03] in some way? I think it might be a

[46:06] little oversted if you have ninjas from

[46:08] two different secret armies in this

[46:10] movie. I think you have the hand. I

[46:13] don't know if you also have like the 10

[46:14] rings um led by Xyling in this movie. I

[46:18] I I just think that might over

[46:20] complicate it, over stuff it. Uh I don't

[46:22] think it's a silly question though. When

[46:25] NJ asks Frank, "Are you just going to

[46:27] let him go alone?" That might be a

[46:28] reference to them getting Daredevil.

[46:32] Oh, we just going to let him go alone. I

[46:34] know what scene you're talking about. I

[46:35] think she's talking about Peter, though,

[46:37] right?

[46:37] >> Going to let him go.

[46:40] >> Going to let him go by himself.

[46:42] Look at these photos. Do we think those

[46:45] are

[46:47] Frank's family?

[46:50] Looking at the original Statue of

[46:52] Liberty before the redesign.

[46:55] Uh, some family photos here.

[47:00] Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if

[47:02] that's specifically a smoking gun for

[47:05] Daredevil.

[47:06] Look, it sounds like a lot. You guys

[47:08] really need Daredevil to be in this

[47:09] movie. I'm with you. I'm with you. I

[47:11] just don't think that particular moment

[47:13] is uh is definitely a daredevil thing.

[47:16] But I, you know, anytime we see Frank

[47:17] thinking about cooperation in general, I

[47:19] do think he's thinking about Matt. I

[47:21] think that's on his mind at least. I

[47:23] think he's also equally thinking about

[47:24] Karen.

[47:27] Um, do you think Ned might think Flash's

[47:30] book Flashoint has clues? Oh, yeah. I

[47:32] remember Eugene wrote Flashoint, but I

[47:35] think whatever clues are in there would

[47:37] have been warped by the spell. So, any

[47:39] kind of reference to Peter Parker or

[47:41] whatever. But I think you're right. I

[47:43] think all the research Ned is doing,

[47:44] he's probably looked at, um, looked at

[47:47] anything he can get his hands on. I

[47:49] mean, the whole publishing of the book

[47:51] might have been erased from memory by

[47:52] the spell.

[47:54] Someone asking, uh, villain Jean is off

[47:56] for her. Uh, it's her pure heart and

[47:59] sense of morality and sacrifice that

[48:00] attract the Phoenix force to her. Maline

[48:02] Prior could make more sense. Maybe

[48:03] Nathaniel Essex is at Empire State

[48:05] University with with Banner. Oh, so you

[48:09] have a Mr. Sinister at Empire State

[48:10] University. Really fun. I mean, if if

[48:13] we're going to establish that there's a

[48:14] full X-Men canonical history that's just

[48:16] been erased from memory from the MCU,

[48:18] now we're really cooking. There could be

[48:19] all kinds of fun stuff and and people

[48:21] who have intertwined with our history

[48:23] that way. I I I

[48:25] I hear what you're saying. I I do think

[48:27] that like the Phoenix Force attached to

[48:30] Gene for a lot of reasons. Uh

[48:31] originally, I mean, there's been

[48:33] different stories of Gan Gay's powers

[48:34] that they came from the Phoenix Force

[48:36] attaching to her as a young kid due to

[48:37] some traumatic event. Uh there's also

[48:40] stories where it's like Gan Gray needed

[48:42] to be an omega level mutant that she was

[48:44] born as and have this potential that the

[48:46] Phoenix Force is like that one. Um or it

[48:49] could be what you said. It's like her

[48:51] good nature that the Phoenix Force was

[48:53] like, "Ooh, that one I going to corrupt

[48:55] that one." But I don't know if like that

[48:58] means that she can't be Gan Gray. And I

[49:00] think saying that she's Meline Prior, I

[49:03] think might be a step too far for her. I

[49:06] really do like the idea of like

[49:07] exploring the whole idea of Meline Prior

[49:09] in the MCU. I just think like right now

[49:11] Marvel Studios is getting back to just

[49:14] playing the hits, keeping things fairly

[49:16] simple. And I think making her Meline

[49:19] Prior is just kind of a step too far for

[49:21] a lot of the uh the fans who are not as

[49:24] plugged into things. Like it's already

[49:25] going to be a lot for a lot of people to

[49:27] accept that she's one of the X-Men, but

[49:30] I think Marvel can it feels confident

[49:32] that they can make that make sense. I

[49:34] don't know if they have the same

[49:35] confidence that they can make Meline

[49:36] Prior make sense because it's kind of

[49:38] like going it's like going from A to D

[49:40] as opposed to A to B.

[49:43] But I mean I I for those of you who are

[49:45] like it doesn't make sense for it to be

[49:47] Gan Gray, I I get what you're saying. I

[49:49] think it's a tall order to see how that

[49:52] makes sense in a Spider-Man movie and in

[49:53] your head an MCU Spider-Man movie is not

[49:55] an X-Men story and you don't want to

[49:58] complicate. You don't want to spoil the

[50:00] broth. I I get that. But I think there

[50:02] is a simple story that they're secretly

[50:05] telling in this movie of like gamma

[50:07] radiation and how it mutates different

[50:10] people in this universe and how it more

[50:14] um it kind of biologically adapts them

[50:17] for being entangled with other

[50:19] universes. What I just said may be

[50:22] overly complicated. Uh but I do think

[50:24] it's like the story they're telling and

[50:26] I think it'll make sense when we see it.

[50:30] Oh, thank you. you indie comics big and

[50:32] our fan since 2015. Hesitant on Gene

[50:33] Gray being in the film. Mostly not a fan

[50:35] of Russian and burning through the

[50:36] Phoenix story line. Russian Phoenix and

[50:38] Dark Phoenix is what Fox did. I guess

[50:41] what I'm saying is um I you're right.

[50:44] You're right. They tried to do that in

[50:45] one movie and they tried to do that

[50:47] twice both in uh The Last Stand and in

[50:49] Dark Phoenix. Um what I'm saying is

[50:53] uh they they did rush it in that it

[50:57] should be a Dark Phoenix saga. It should

[50:59] be told over like several years of this

[51:01] character's life. But the problem is is

[51:03] that storyline is really hard to make a

[51:07] good movie in the modern era. It was

[51:09] hard in 2006. It was hard in 2019. It's

[51:12] going to be even harder in 2026. I don't

[51:14] know if that's a story Gen Z and Gen

[51:17] Alpha audiences want to be living with

[51:19] for several years of the Mutant Saga

[51:21] because like when Chris Claremont told

[51:22] it in the early 80s and when it was

[51:24] explored on X-Men in the9s run in the

[51:27] animation it I don't want to call it

[51:31] problematic because it's not on me to

[51:32] say it's problematic but it's just hard

[51:34] to make a captivating story when it's

[51:36] basically a story of a hysterical woman

[51:38] who doesn't have control over her own

[51:40] body and like a bunch of a bunch of

[51:42] other heroes just trying to like hold

[51:44] her down and call her crazy the whole

[51:47] time. That's why I think it's hard for

[51:48] screenwriters now to tell that story in

[51:50] a way that works. So, what I mean is by

[51:52] burning through the Phoenix Saga story,

[51:54] I mean just burning through, literally

[51:56] burning through what the Phoenix's power

[51:59] set is in Battle World. I'm not talking

[52:01] about this slow kind of transformation,

[52:04] this kind of mental anguish that she's

[52:06] going through because I think Gan Gray,

[52:08] Marvel girl Gan Gray is an interesting

[52:10] character on her own as part of the

[52:12] X-Men. And and the problem is a lot of

[52:15] people just based off those movies in

[52:17] the '90s run only associate Gan Gray

[52:19] with Phoenix and this cosmic force that

[52:21] attaches to her. But I think she is an

[52:23] interesting character in a lot of other

[52:26] storylines that have nothing to do with

[52:27] the Phoenix. And I think that's what,

[52:29] you know, I think that's what uh um the

[52:32] X mo the X-Men movie in 2028 and the

[52:35] Mutant Saga has a potential power to

[52:38] explore. So maybe that's why they're

[52:40] introducing her here. I don't they're

[52:42] going to show the other powers that Gan

[52:43] Gray has that have nothing to do with

[52:45] the Phoenix Force. And I think we could

[52:47] see the Phoenix Force bond to her in

[52:48] Secret Wars. I think we could see her

[52:50] blaze up and kind of replace what Johnny

[52:53] Storm is since he's going to be the son,

[52:55] literal son of Battle World if they're

[52:58] doing it right. Um, and that's why I

[53:01] think I just don't want to see that

[53:02] again. And I don't want to see a much

[53:03] longer version of it again is what I'm

[53:05] saying. I I don't want to spend several

[53:07] years of the Dark Phoenix saga just

[53:09] because like I think slowing it down

[53:14] could make it even more drawn out and

[53:15] and worse. And I think Satie Sync can do

[53:17] so much more than that.

[53:21] Uh, thank you for your super chat. Yo,

[53:23] what do we think about Ned as hobgoblin

[53:25] and Tom's Peter immunity to Jean's

[53:27] powers that we've seen his unique

[53:29] control of his spirit and astral body?

[53:32] Yeah. Um, over under 20, do Ned's wizard

[53:37] abilities get referenced at all in this

[53:39] movie? I'm going to say no. I don't

[53:42] think we see wizard Ned in this movie.

[53:44] That's just me. I'll be shocked if we

[53:46] do. Um, and I don't think they cast

[53:50] Jacob Battalon to go in that arc of the

[53:52] hobgoblin

[53:53] character. I I think we gota have like a

[53:56] Green Goblin in this spider universe

[53:58] first from the 616 universe. And I think

[54:01] again ne I think Jacob Balon's skill set

[54:04] is just not in the direction of

[54:06] hobgoblin personally. Um,

[54:10] yeah. Another theory here, Peter's

[54:12] darkness comes from the symbiote left

[54:15] behind. Um, I I just don't think uh

[54:18] we're going to see that throughout this

[54:19] movie. I don't think it's going to be a

[54:21] symbiote story. I think when they're

[54:23] talking about street level, I don't

[54:25] think they're talking about an alien

[54:26] goo. That's just my read of it, but I'm

[54:29] not saying that they're never going to

[54:30] address it again.

[54:32] Uh, we're going to get a flashback of

[54:33] May giving a speech from the trailer to

[54:35] Peter Wright when she discovered he's

[54:36] Spider-Man. Oo, I love that theory. Uh,

[54:38] that's really cool that like in the

[54:40] scene from Spider-Man Homecoming, right,

[54:42] when she yelled, [ __ ] uh and it cut off.

[54:45] Like maybe we have a scene there where

[54:47] like she took him out for more LAR at

[54:49] that restaurant and uh they had this

[54:51] wonderful scene. But I do think based

[54:54] off what she says, the people who love

[54:55] you love you because you're you. I think

[54:57] that would have to be a little bit later

[54:59] in Peter's life. But remember, he did

[55:01] blip. So I don't know how many times in

[55:03] their history they could have had a

[55:04] conversation like that.

[55:07] Um, another question. When we eventually

[55:09] get X-Men, do you think Mr. Sinister

[55:11] will be working with the uh Department

[55:13] of Defense to capture mutants or do you

[55:15] mean DODC? Fingers crossed for Tom Ellis

[55:18] as Sinister. Yeah, we've seen some uh

[55:21] theories that um Vagner Mora is being um

[55:24] considered for Sebastian Shaw, meaning

[55:27] that we could see a Hellfire Club as

[55:29] like a first wave of villains in the

[55:30] mutant saga. Mr. Sinister is obviously

[55:33] someone that like Fox Studios wanted to

[55:35] explore as the next big bad of the Fox

[55:39] X-Men that we saw teased at the end of

[55:41] X-Men Apocalypse. Um, there was going to

[55:44] be a Mr. Sinister storyline in New

[55:46] Mutants. Um, but yeah, again, we're kind

[55:51] of getting into like a a genetic

[55:54] subplot, and maybe that's what this

[55:55] movie is setting up with Gan Gray. I

[55:58] look I don't have a problem with it just

[55:59] being Sentinels and um and Bolivar Tras

[56:03] and Henry Peter Guyrick and and Striker

[56:06] like a Reverend Striker and whatever the

[56:08] US president is. That's my preference

[56:10] for what we see in the mutant saga is

[56:12] just like a US government and not having

[56:14] these big bads yet. Um I think there's

[56:17] nothing wrong with just going back and

[56:18] playing the hits of Magneto, you know,

[56:20] like again it's not about doing what's

[56:25] never been done before. I think Marvel

[56:27] Studios is under greater pressure to

[56:32] just make movies that work that people

[56:35] just want and not try to throw people

[56:38] curveballs as much anymore. So, I think

[56:40] we're accustomed to an MCU since 2008

[56:44] where they kept trying to zag where the

[56:45] common comics have zigged. Uh, but I

[56:48] think with something like Doomsday and

[56:49] just adapting Jonathan Hickman's 2015

[56:52] Time Runs Out and Secret Wars, I think

[56:54] they're just delivering the goods and

[56:56] then doing little things to surprise us.

[56:59] But I think a lot of these other like,

[57:00] well, we've never seen like other than

[57:02] Kevin Bacon, we've never seen a real

[57:03] Sebastian Shaw Hellfire Club. We've

[57:05] never seen uh a Mr. Sinister in live

[57:07] action. I I think hearing Jake Shrier

[57:11] talk about this, I think they're just

[57:13] getting back to playing the hits from

[57:14] the Claremont era. Um, you know, so I I

[57:20] think there what we all kind of know

[57:22] already about the X-Men is like the

[57:24] brand safe approach and they're going to

[57:26] find other ways to humanize it to young

[57:28] audiences of the next decade. Uh, but I

[57:31] don't think they're going to like pull

[57:33] out some obscure Proteius villain in the

[57:35] first X-Men villain. Not to say Proteius

[57:36] is obscure, but you know what I mean? To

[57:38] like most um Marvel movie goers, they're

[57:40] like, hm, who's Proteius? Like I don't

[57:42] think we're going to see Proteius as the

[57:43] first villain. Uh even though that uh if

[57:46] you're on like uh if you're on YouTube

[57:47] like I am, you're probably thinking

[57:49] like, "Okay, what's one they've never

[57:50] done before? What's the one I've always

[57:51] wanted to see?" Because I've already

[57:52] seen Ian Mckllen do Magneto. I think

[57:54] it's more likely that they just recast

[57:56] Magneto and do a Magneto story. And I

[57:58] know there's like the Magneto problem of

[58:00] he'd be too old if he's going to be a

[58:02] Holocaust survivor, but they're more

[58:03] likely to do something like that. Um

[58:07] Trevor Pace, thank you for your

[58:08] donation. Uh same for you, Bucks.

[58:10] Appreciate you guys. Uh, do you think

[58:13] Zach Cherry will make an appearance?

[58:15] Yeah, I mean Destin Daniel [ __ ] did

[58:17] get Zach Cherry in there on the bus as

[58:19] uh I like to think he's the same

[58:20] character as a do a flip guy. I think

[58:22] Zach Cher's price might be a little too

[58:24] high after Severance, but I would love

[58:26] to see him cameo.

[58:29] Will Hulk kill Spider-Man and then get

[58:30] Sio? No, Spider-Man don't think is going

[58:32] to get killed off in this movie. Um, do

[58:35] you think we'll see the line that Hulk

[58:36] says uh where he remembers Peter? Yeah.

[58:39] Um, I think it's again Hulk never really

[58:42] knew Peter um that specific way.

[58:48] Um, there's a lot of license plates and

[58:51] I've been looking at the license plates

[58:53] and I don't think they refer to specific

[58:55] comic issues, but you know, I'll keep

[58:56] looking. I think that was a John Watts

[58:58] thing, not a uh Destinary [ __ ] thing.

[59:03] YouTube caption saying Tilman is Mezer.

[59:05] I think that's Bill. I'll double look at

[59:06] the you I'll double check the YouTube

[59:08] captions, but yeah, in the first

[59:10] trailer, he was identified as Bill,

[59:12] which I think could be a William Mezer

[59:14] thing.

[59:16] Uh, another theory here. Thank you. Uh,

[59:19] saying Jean might call herself Meline

[59:21] while being evil. Oo, okay. I hear what

[59:24] you're saying that like she might go by

[59:26] the name Meline. Again, I just think the

[59:28] name Meline Prior

[59:31] makes it too much about the clone of Gan

[59:33] Gray by by Mr. sinister, who who Scott

[59:37] Summers was actually married to. It's

[59:39] just uh it's like an A to D jump when I

[59:42] think to introduce her character, we

[59:44] need to have an A to B jump. Um the

[59:46] theory I've always wanted to see is that

[59:48] the the Fky Jansen Gan Gray that Logan

[59:51] sees at the end of Days of Future Past

[59:52] could be a Meline Prior and maybe that

[59:55] was a story line that they were

[59:56] considering developing that we were

[59:58] going to get to a a Goblin Queen story

[1:00:00] line there. Uh but I don't think we're

[1:00:02] going to already see it in this movie.

[1:00:06] Um, another theory, Peter, fight in the

[1:00:08] hand in a prison. Yeah. Yeah, we we

[1:00:11] talked about this earlier in the stream.

[1:00:13] I just think a Daredevil Born Again

[1:00:14] season 3 begins with Matt still in that

[1:00:17] prison. That's the only issue I have

[1:00:19] with this theory. Another question here

[1:00:21] about that. Maybe they break out Matt

[1:00:23] for help and then he goes back to finish

[1:00:25] his sentence.

[1:00:27] That is something Matt would do. He'd be

[1:00:28] like, "You know what? I was convicted.

[1:00:31] Um, I just let me back into the prison.

[1:00:34] I think that would be kind of lame of

[1:00:37] Matt to do. I mean, at that point, just

[1:00:39] stay a vigilante. Um, yeah, maybe maybe

[1:00:42] that's it. I just think like the

[1:00:44] storyline for Matt Murdoch is now being

[1:00:46] firmly controlled by Daario Scardani and

[1:00:49] the Daredevil Born Again team and I

[1:00:51] don't think Destin Daniel [ __ ] has

[1:00:52] that much control over the character.

[1:00:55] So, that'd be my only concern. And I

[1:00:57] think I think the way they got around it

[1:00:59] is by giving access to Frank Castle, the

[1:01:02] Punisher, for this story.

[1:01:06] In No Way Home, Peter finds out that

[1:01:07] Nick Fury wasn't really himself during

[1:01:08] Far From Home. Do you think they dive

[1:01:10] into scrolls in this movie? Does Peter

[1:01:12] find that out?

[1:01:14] I'm trying to remember if Peter if he

[1:01:17] talks about Nick Fury being a scroll. I

[1:01:20] don't think Peter ever learned that in

[1:01:22] No Way or No Way Home, right? Peter

[1:01:25] doesn't know anything about scirrels. Um

[1:01:29] I I mean I could be wrong the way it

[1:01:32] ends. Um but no uh I don't think I don't

[1:01:36] think Marvel Studios is ever going to

[1:01:37] bring up scrolls ever again other than

[1:01:39] Easter eggs walking around in the

[1:01:40] background of Battle World or something

[1:01:41] like that or the TVA.

[1:01:44] Um, yeah, as I talked about earlier in

[1:01:45] the stream, I don't know how much of

[1:01:47] Manspider,

[1:01:48] uh, like I would say the first trailer

[1:01:50] had me more convinced of a symbiote and

[1:01:52] man spider than this trailer does.

[1:01:58] Um, another question since we saw

[1:01:59] Spider-Man is Marvel rivals ultimate.

[1:02:01] Um imagine

[1:02:03] Gan Gray Phoenix using hers. You are

[1:02:05] nothing, huh? And the comic features Mr.

[1:02:07] Negative. Do you think he's manipulating

[1:02:10] Gene? You know, I think Mr. Negative is

[1:02:11] like my first big what I got wrong of

[1:02:13] 2026. Like I was really thinking hard

[1:02:16] that Mr. Negative was going to be like

[1:02:17] the big bad of this movie. And like the

[1:02:19] more that's coming out for this movie,

[1:02:21] the more certain it looks like he's not

[1:02:23] at all going to be in this movie. So I

[1:02:25] don't think Mr. Negative is going to be

[1:02:27] part of Spider-Man Brand New Day. Even

[1:02:29] though it is a Brand New Day story and

[1:02:30] he is a Brand New Day Comics villain, I

[1:02:33] just don't think we're going to see him

[1:02:34] in this.

[1:02:36] Uh do you think Daredevil will fight the

[1:02:37] hand with Peter in this movie? Yeah, a

[1:02:39] question that I've addressed with a

[1:02:40] bunch of other questions here. I don't

[1:02:42] think um I I mean I get why we think

[1:02:46] that he was scrubbed out of that shot. I

[1:02:49] just think he is going to start

[1:02:50] Daredevil Born Again season 3 in prison

[1:02:52] still.

[1:02:55] Um I believe Pety is uh already wearing

[1:02:57] the symbiote suit in some of these

[1:02:59] scenes. Oh, okay. Let's see what you're

[1:03:02] talking about. Oh, you think it was like

[1:03:03] scrubbed out or something like that?

[1:03:06] Like in shots like this, it's actually

[1:03:09] uh him in the black suit.

[1:03:12] I mean, here's the deal. I think when

[1:03:15] people want a symbiote, really what they

[1:03:18] want is Peter in a black suit.

[1:03:21] And so, I get wanting that, but I think

[1:03:24] we have to get to to Battle World first

[1:03:27] is the only thing. Um, but who knows?

[1:03:31] You know, we've seen plenty of examples

[1:03:32] of Marvel trailers where the suit

[1:03:34] characters are wearing is is actually a

[1:03:36] placeholder design. Um,

[1:03:41] I just think it's like they're really

[1:03:43] trying to make it an internal um

[1:03:46] mutating gene uh thing rather than an

[1:03:49] alien infection.

[1:03:51] So, that's why I think uh that's why I

[1:03:55] think it's not going to be a symbiote

[1:03:57] plot.

[1:03:58] Uh, why did Marvel Studios not post the

[1:04:00] Spider-Man trailer? Are you talking

[1:04:02] about their YouTube channel? I don't

[1:04:04] know. Sometimes they don't always have

[1:04:06] the the Disney owned YouTube channel

[1:04:08] post things. Or maybe they'll post it

[1:04:09] later. I don't know. I haven't seen

[1:04:11] that. Okay. Another question about this

[1:04:13] Ultimate X-Men where Gene Gray changes

[1:04:14] her name to Karen Grant and her uh Hulk

[1:04:17] on a team and she mind controls Hulk

[1:04:18] willingly to help her do things and he

[1:04:20] does it willingly. To be honest, I have

[1:04:21] not read this exact storyline so I'll

[1:04:23] have to check it out. But everyone

[1:04:24] should go read this.

[1:04:27] Uh, if you had to choose one X-Men story

[1:04:29] line for the MCU to adapt, what would it

[1:04:31] be?

[1:04:33] I mean, what's really great about the

[1:04:35] Claremont era is it's not really known

[1:04:37] for a specific

[1:04:39] specific story lines. It's just one kind

[1:04:41] of evolving soap opera-esque story that

[1:04:45] goes in and out of different characters.

[1:04:47] So, I just want the Claremont era, you

[1:04:50] know, that's uh because that encompasses

[1:04:52] everything else. So, I don't need to get

[1:04:55] to the like the CCOa arc of the recent

[1:04:59] times. I don't need the Grant Morrison

[1:05:01] um Janosha massacre arc with Cassandra

[1:05:04] Nova and all that. I kind of just want

[1:05:06] to get to the heyday of like the late

[1:05:08] '7s through the early 90s going from

[1:05:10] Claremont to John Burn. Um I think

[1:05:13] there's so many I mean there's like 15

[1:05:16] years of great X-Men movies and TV shows

[1:05:18] just from that era. um that don't have

[1:05:21] to be like a specific story line that

[1:05:23] begins and ends.

[1:05:26] Uh ooh we should get Landra and McCron

[1:05:29] Crystal before we get Phoenix. The

[1:05:31] Phoenix could be the background for

[1:05:32] years building to Gene controlling the

[1:05:33] Phoenix as part of a larger galactic

[1:05:35] story. You know, I I'm really excited to

[1:05:37] see how Marvel unfolds like the cosmic

[1:05:41] settings of the mutant saga cuz yeah,

[1:05:43] you do have the Shar Empire. You do have

[1:05:45] Landra. Uh you have a lot of cool

[1:05:47] Corsair stuff, too. But I do think

[1:05:50] that's kind of like phase three of the

[1:05:52] mutant saga as opposed to phase one. We

[1:05:54] need to tell these ground level stories

[1:05:55] of how Sentinels are hunting these kids

[1:05:59] down before we get to like Landra.

[1:06:02] Uh, do we get a Scott Summers hint if

[1:06:05] Satie is Jean?

[1:06:09] I don't I don't know if if like this

[1:06:11] this Gan Gray has met a Scott Summers

[1:06:13] yet. I think this is a a Gan Gray who

[1:06:16] has not at all been uh recruited to join

[1:06:19] the X-Men yet, you know? So, I don't

[1:06:22] think she's met a Charles Xavier yet if

[1:06:24] she's doing this stuff. She's been kind

[1:06:25] of in isolation. And in the prison cell

[1:06:27] that we saw her in in the first trailer,

[1:06:31] she had like roller skates in there. So

[1:06:33] like uh I think she might have been in

[1:06:36] captivity for several years. I don't

[1:06:38] know if uh if we see a Scott yet.

[1:06:43] Uh what do you think of Peter's reaction

[1:06:44] to Matt revealing himself as Daredevil?

[1:06:46] Yeah, I think that's really funny that

[1:06:47] when Matt was in the courtroom in the

[1:06:48] Daredevil Born Again season 2 finale and

[1:06:50] reveals himself as Daredevil. Yeah,

[1:06:52] Peter totally must have like heard about

[1:06:54] that and been like, "Yeah, my lawyer did

[1:06:55] catch a brick. That was crazy." Um,

[1:06:58] yeah, I think that's that. I hope that

[1:07:01] like we actually get to see that

[1:07:03] reference at some point.

[1:07:06] Uh, another question. If Sink isn't a

[1:07:08] big player like Gene, then I'm confused

[1:07:09] with the secrecy and not showing her in

[1:07:11] either trailer, especially if she's also

[1:07:13] in Secret Wars. Well, I h

[1:07:17] I think they do want that to be a

[1:07:19] surprise in the movie. I don't think

[1:07:21] they want to have like despite

[1:07:24] everything we're doing in our YouTube

[1:07:26] coverage, they really don't want the

[1:07:28] whole X-Men angle to overwhelm their

[1:07:30] marketing. And if they announce that she

[1:07:33] is Gan Gray, then I think every question

[1:07:37] all these actors are going to be getting

[1:07:38] is specifically about the future of the

[1:07:40] X-Men. So, by not announcing it,

[1:07:42] whenever they go into these junkets like

[1:07:44] they do with Fandango, hopefully new

[1:07:45] Rockstars, um those interviewers are

[1:07:48] going to have to ask several other

[1:07:49] questions before they throw in a

[1:07:51] curveball about the X-Men. But who

[1:07:53] knows? I think at Comic- Con it was

[1:07:54] announced that Spider-Man brand new day

[1:07:56] is going to have a panel at Hall H just

[1:07:57] a week before the movie comes out. Maybe

[1:08:00] they do announce it there's Gan Gray in

[1:08:02] the final week and this would be after

[1:08:04] all the junkets happened. And I think

[1:08:06] they're they might do that because

[1:08:07] presumably before Comic- Con is when

[1:08:09] like the press screenings are going to

[1:08:10] happen and it might start to leak. Um,

[1:08:12] and they might just like take control of

[1:08:14] that narrative in the, you know, 6 days

[1:08:16] before the movie comes out. Um, but I

[1:08:19] think that's why they're keeping it a

[1:08:20] secret.

[1:08:22] Another question here from Green Worer.

[1:08:25] Slightly off topic, but anchor beings

[1:08:27] made no sense. How can a universe exist

[1:08:29] for billions of years if a person with

[1:08:30] an average of 75 year lifespan could die

[1:08:33] at any moment?

[1:08:36] Let me think about that for a second.

[1:08:38] Um,

[1:08:40] well, I think they're saying that

[1:08:43] an anchor being

[1:08:46] could exist at any point in the history

[1:08:49] of that universe. Also, uh, how can a

[1:08:53] universe exist for billions of years if

[1:08:54] a person with an average of 75 lifespan

[1:08:56] could die at any moment?

[1:09:00] I think I think it's just hard to

[1:09:01] imagine that there are infinite number

[1:09:02] of universes. And uh, and and I think

[1:09:06] they also say that like when an anchor

[1:09:08] being dies, it signals the beginning of

[1:09:11] the end of that universe. It's not like

[1:09:13] as soon as that person breathes their

[1:09:14] last breath, the universe goes poof. It

[1:09:17] means that like

[1:09:19] as soon as an anchor being is identified

[1:09:21] by the TVA, even if it's in the future

[1:09:24] from the present moment, it means that

[1:09:26] this future is going to die. Um, but I

[1:09:30] think what you're saying is like, oh, an

[1:09:31] anchor being if they're born in the year

[1:09:33] 1940ome,

[1:09:36] um, like how does it like why does it

[1:09:39] affect the people of the ancient times?

[1:09:43] I don't know. I I didn't really have

[1:09:44] this question or this confusion to be

[1:09:46] honest with you. So, I'm having trouble

[1:09:47] empathizing with your confusion. Um, but

[1:09:51] I don't think it made no sense, but I do

[1:09:54] think it's possible that the Russo

[1:09:55] brothers were also confused the way you

[1:09:57] were and are just like, "We're not going

[1:09:58] to address the idea of anchor beans and

[1:10:00] doomsday." Uh, but I think just the idea

[1:10:02] is that there is one lynchpin person who

[1:10:06] if they uh whenever they come up in

[1:10:09] history and whenever they die, that

[1:10:10] universe is going to collapse in an

[1:10:12] incursion. And so like this there could

[1:10:15] be plenty of other universes who don't

[1:10:16] have their anchor being born until the

[1:10:18] year 4000 and something you know u but

[1:10:21] every universe has one. Uh some

[1:10:23] universes had them in the year you know

[1:10:27] 1092

[1:10:28] and that person died from a plague and

[1:10:30] then that universe just died and expired

[1:10:33] a few years later. You know I think it's

[1:10:35] just kind of hard to imagine it but I

[1:10:37] think that's what Deadpool and Wolverine

[1:10:38] was saying.

[1:10:41] Uh, this question asking about the

[1:10:43] Fendango interview. What do you think

[1:10:44] Tom's biggest contribution to the script

[1:10:46] was that he was referring to? Uh, yeah.

[1:10:48] So, Tom Holland indicated that he

[1:10:50] scrubbed through a lot of social media

[1:10:52] after No Way Home came out just to see

[1:10:54] what people wanted and then he was kind

[1:10:56] of the voice of the fans in the writer

[1:10:58] room for this movie. I think what he's

[1:11:00] referring to um was like first off, you

[1:11:04] know, making it a street level story. Um

[1:11:06] making it something that was divorced

[1:11:07] from Stark Tech, less of an Avengers

[1:11:10] story. Um even though he's teaming up

[1:11:12] with the Hulk in this movie, something

[1:11:13] that's more about like Peter being

[1:11:15] Spider-Man, uh a friendly neighborhood

[1:11:18] Spider-Man who has a DIY suit that he

[1:11:19] has to build himself that kind of looks

[1:11:21] like Andrew Garfield's suit. Um, you

[1:11:24] know, the he it was I know it was Tom

[1:11:26] Holland's idea to do the spider puberty

[1:11:28] thing, but they don't call it that in

[1:11:30] the movie. But this whole idea of like

[1:11:32] something is happening to his body

[1:11:33] that's affecting him. I know that was

[1:11:35] Tom Holland's contribution. And then the

[1:11:37] thing that he said at the beginning of

[1:11:38] the interview is that he had to keep it

[1:11:39] a secret what the his favorite little

[1:11:41] nugget was. I think it's like X-Men. I

[1:11:44] think they wanted to see Peter Parker

[1:11:45] with X-Men. And and that's what he was

[1:11:47] referring to with that.

[1:11:51] Could X-Men 97 season 2 reveal anything

[1:11:53] for Brand New Day or Doomsday?

[1:11:56] Uh, I doubt it. I think X-Men 97 was

[1:11:58] developed by just like a different team

[1:12:00] of people who were not plugged into what

[1:12:02] the Russo brothers were doing for

[1:12:04] Doomsday. Uh, or even Brand New Day.

[1:12:09] Um, just because there's a big division

[1:12:10] between animation and live action and

[1:12:12] each live action production like isn't

[1:12:15] always going to have the same kind of

[1:12:16] overlap. Um, in this interrogation

[1:12:19] scene, Peter says Fury could back up a

[1:12:21] story uh in the DOJ. Oh, that's what

[1:12:24] you're saying. Fury has been off planet.

[1:12:26] It's small, but Peter has had time. But

[1:12:29] I don't know if that I know I know what

[1:12:31] scene you're talking about. Um, but that

[1:12:34] doesn't mean that Peter knows that Fury

[1:12:37] was a scroll. It's just that Fury has

[1:12:38] been off-world. Uh, in in uh the

[1:12:41] Marvels, Fury was on a space station and

[1:12:44] was not a scroll in that. I just think

[1:12:47] uh Nick Fury is often dealing with other

[1:12:50] alien races and means he's off world,

[1:12:52] but I don't think that Peter knew that

[1:12:54] he was a scirrel per se. So to answer

[1:12:56] your question, I don't think it means

[1:12:57] that like scrolls are going to get

[1:12:58] addressed in this movie. I mean, Nick

[1:13:00] Fury at that point was just kind of

[1:13:01] viewed as like a man in the shadows. You

[1:13:03] never really know where he is.

[1:13:06] Night King controlling Jean. Are you

[1:13:08] talking about the thing? Yeah. Thanks

[1:13:10] for your donation.

[1:13:14] Um, thank you for your super chat.

[1:13:16] Number one human villain you'd want and

[1:13:18] number one mutant villain, non-magneto

[1:13:20] you want for the mutant saga. Number one

[1:13:22] human villain that I would want is

[1:13:26] a good question.

[1:13:28] Um, I think a reverend striker. I want

[1:13:32] to see like a Billy Graham style

[1:13:35] reverend striker in the MCU. And number

[1:13:38] one, mutant villain, non-magneto.

[1:13:45] Um,

[1:13:47] does danger count? Like I I am really

[1:13:50] excited to see danger in X-Men 97 season

[1:13:52] 2. Kind of the robotic embodiment of the

[1:13:54] danger room. I guess it's more of a

[1:13:55] technological villain than a mutant

[1:13:57] villain. Uh,

[1:14:02] Proteius. I really do like Proteius, but

[1:14:04] again, I don't want to get there right

[1:14:06] away.

[1:14:07] Uh, I guess if we if you're forcing me

[1:14:09] to pick I don't need to see Apocalypse

[1:14:11] right now, especially since we're going

[1:14:12] to see him in X-Men 97 season 2. I guess

[1:14:15] maybe a Mr. Sinister. I just think Mr.

[1:14:17] Sinister is kind of a joke. And I I I

[1:14:19] just don't know if like the the first

[1:14:22] wave of of these X-Men stories need to

[1:14:24] deal with Mr. Sinister in that way. But

[1:14:27] maybe in phase two.

[1:14:30] Another question. Gene is mutating also

[1:14:32] doesn't have control.

[1:14:35] I don't know what you're asking, but

[1:14:37] yeah, maybe she doesn't have control

[1:14:39] over her powers exactly, and that's why

[1:14:41] she's being kind of chaotic.

[1:14:43] With Tom's Peter going through this

[1:14:45] mutation, I think it would be fun to

[1:14:46] find out the same thing is happening to

[1:14:48] Andrew's Peter, maybe in Secret Wars.

[1:14:52] Oh, u I don't know if I need all Peter

[1:14:54] Parkers to have the same organic webbing

[1:14:56] process.

[1:14:57] Um,

[1:15:00] but

[1:15:02] yeah, uh, I do want to see Andrew

[1:15:04] Garfield's Peter Parker return in Secret

[1:15:06] Wars. Um, I I want to see this, um, the

[1:15:12] this trio reunited.

[1:15:14] I guess the question I have for all of

[1:15:16] you, um, if Peter's getting organic

[1:15:19] webbing in this movie, are we saying

[1:15:20] that this is going to be, um, something

[1:15:22] that he has from now on?

[1:15:25] uh that this is just like a permanent

[1:15:27] adaptation his Peter is going to have.

[1:15:29] If so, I think after this movie, I'm

[1:15:31] really going to be ready for this Peter

[1:15:33] to just kind of pass the baton off to

[1:15:36] Miles and Gwyn. Um I don't have a

[1:15:40] problem with organic webbing. I just

[1:15:41] felt that was so specific for the Sam

[1:15:43] Ramy, Tobey Magcguire era that I don't

[1:15:47] want this to be a permanent thing that

[1:15:49] Peter has. I like seeing the tinkering

[1:15:52] web shooter thing. And while I think

[1:15:54] this movie can maintain that balance,

[1:15:55] it's going to be hard to maintain that

[1:15:56] balance for like a fifth movie if he

[1:15:58] still has it at the end of this movie.

[1:16:00] So yeah, maybe it does go to like a

[1:16:02] symbiote affected Peter in Secret Wars.

[1:16:04] They tell that story in Secret Wars and

[1:16:06] then after that his body just gets

[1:16:08] restored in a specific way to make him

[1:16:11] like a good mentor figure to Miles and

[1:16:13] Gwyn.

[1:16:15] Another observation, seeing Spider-Man

[1:16:17] saving MJ and not Ned could trigger

[1:16:19] something evil in Ned. Oh, you're trying

[1:16:21] to make Ned hobgoblin? I don't think so.

[1:16:23] I don't think it's going to happen in

[1:16:24] this movie. I don't think Ned will be

[1:16:26] that resentful. Hey, just want to say I

[1:16:28] love your work. Thank you. I'm about to

[1:16:30] be a father August 1st. Congratulations.

[1:16:33] Any tips you could give me? And also

[1:16:35] excited for Spider-Man. It's going to be

[1:16:38] a lot of work. It's going to be

[1:16:40] challenging, but it's going to be the

[1:16:41] most rewarding thing that ever happens

[1:16:42] to you. Um, I can't imagine not being a

[1:16:47] dad. It's It's just so great. It's it's

[1:16:49] like honestly getting married and then

[1:16:52] having a kid. Uh it's it's impossible to

[1:16:57] overrate those things. Uh it it's what I

[1:17:00] was always always destined to be. Um and

[1:17:03] but you got to be ready. You're um

[1:17:05] you're going to be shocked how much your

[1:17:06] body chemistry changes by sleep

[1:17:08] deprivation in that first month. Just

[1:17:10] brace yourself for it. Um get as much

[1:17:12] sleep as you can. Now, I know that's a

[1:17:14] cliche thing. Also know that you're not

[1:17:16] in this alone and you don't need to have

[1:17:18] all the that's the advice I give you.

[1:17:19] You don't need to know everything right

[1:17:21] now. You don't need to know everything

[1:17:23] in the first month, the first 3 months,

[1:17:24] the first 6 months. You will learn as

[1:17:26] you go. So, you're going to be shocked

[1:17:28] at like how many things that you're

[1:17:30] like, "Oh, I didn't know that I had to

[1:17:32] know this." You're going to feel

[1:17:33] imposter syndrome that you didn't do the

[1:17:35] homework. But don't worry, every parent

[1:17:37] feels that way. You're going to have

[1:17:38] your pediatrician tell you things like,

[1:17:40] "You know, you can do this, right?" And

[1:17:41] you're going to be like, "I'm such a

[1:17:42] dummy." Um, but you have to forgive

[1:17:45] yourself. You have to forgive your

[1:17:46] partner and uh and you'll figure it out

[1:17:50] as you go. You are kind of building the

[1:17:52] train while it has left the station. And

[1:17:55] that's kind of the delight and challenge

[1:17:57] of parenting. But like it's impossible

[1:17:59] to tell a parent everything they need to

[1:18:01] know in that final couple months before

[1:18:03] the baby comes or even in the first

[1:18:05] month. Um, but that's what every parent

[1:18:08] goes through.

[1:18:10] But congratulations.

[1:18:12] Was Florence Pew rumored to be in the

[1:18:13] movie? She was. I think that rumor was

[1:18:15] false. Do you think Spidey will off the

[1:18:17] Scorpion or not? I don't think

[1:18:18] Spider-Man's going to kill Matt Gargan

[1:18:20] in this movie. I don't think he's gonna

[1:18:21] kill anyone in this movie. Uh, Army N K9

[1:18:25] MP. Thanks for the donation.

[1:18:28] Another question here. Street level

[1:18:29] since No Way Home. The monster Sadie

[1:18:31] Sades character is referring to could be

[1:18:33] Peter's unwell mental health with being

[1:18:35] isolated alone. She does help him by

[1:18:37] making him reach out to his past and

[1:18:39] others. Yeah, I think that's I think

[1:18:41] you're right. I think that's the monster

[1:18:43] that's being referred to in this trailer

[1:18:45] is like this new form that he's taking

[1:18:48] and how it's uh born out of his

[1:18:51] isolation and his emotional separation

[1:18:53] from his friends. Um yeah, I think he

[1:18:57] worries it's a monster. I don't think

[1:18:59] it's literally like a symbiote monster

[1:19:01] or a man spider monster. Uh they're

[1:19:04] saying they're show Oh, this person's

[1:19:05] saying it's showing a lot in this

[1:19:06] trailer. Last one for me. I've been

[1:19:07] burned before. Look at you. Good Morning

[1:19:09] America for Spider-Man 2 Toby full major

[1:19:11] scene shown. I don't remember that. I I

[1:19:13] mean I wasn't watching GMA in 2004. Um

[1:19:17] but I I still have a lot of questions

[1:19:19] from this trailer. I mean there's a lot

[1:19:21] of context that I'm still missing. Um

[1:19:25] we need a montage at the beginning of

[1:19:26] Doomsday showing Doom versus Thanos and

[1:19:28] then Doom wiping out the Council of

[1:19:30] Kangs. Oh, I do think we're going to see

[1:19:32] Doom kill Thanos in Doomsday. I don't

[1:19:34] think we're going to see the Council of

[1:19:36] Kangs killed. You'll have to go to some

[1:19:37] AI videos to see that. Um, but I agree.

[1:19:42] I think we needed a montage or some kind

[1:19:43] of reference to everything bad Doom has

[1:19:45] done.

[1:19:48] Oo, I want to see Olivia Cook play Moira

[1:19:49] in all of her lives to introduce the

[1:19:52] X-Men. Do you mean Moira McTagert? I

[1:19:54] guess I think Olivia Cook would be a

[1:19:55] really good Moira in the mutant saga.

[1:19:58] She's so good in House of the Dragon.

[1:20:01] Uh, it's Manpider. They need to save

[1:20:03] symbiote so Peter can stand up against

[1:20:04] the other heroes without stark tech on

[1:20:06] battle world. Wouldn't stress mutation

[1:20:08] if it was suit giving him more strength.

[1:20:10] Yeah, I don't know if it's man spider or

[1:20:13] the symbiote. I I think it's going to be

[1:20:15] something unique to this movie.

[1:20:18] Do you think Agent Clearary will be in

[1:20:19] the film since the DODDC is? Um it's

[1:20:23] possible. I just think that Tal Tilman's

[1:20:25] kind of representing the DODC in this

[1:20:27] movie.

[1:20:29] Uh, Sentry beats Thor in Doomsday return

[1:20:32] as Rune King.

[1:20:34] Um, O. Yeah, I have a lot of questions

[1:20:37] about how Sentry is going to be used by

[1:20:39] Dr. Doom in Doomsday.

[1:20:42] Um, yeah, I guess I could see that.

[1:20:44] Brixie and Minifigs behind Oh, like

[1:20:46] they're the they're the big bad behind

[1:20:48] this movie.

[1:20:50] Ah, god. Check out all those videos.

[1:20:52] That has been a fascinating drama to to

[1:20:56] deep dive into.

[1:20:59] Thank you as will uh for your uh name.

[1:21:02] The names on the helicopter are John

[1:21:04] Riker and his wife Hulk villain from the

[1:21:05] comics. I just didn't see Riker. Uh I'll

[1:21:08] look at it again, dude. I I just don't

[1:21:10] think I saw Riker. I think that's your

[1:21:12] theory. Um I did see Rker, though,

[1:21:16] right? I'll look at it again. I don't

[1:21:18] know. Um any thoughts on Bruce sounding

[1:21:21] a little sinister when he says, "You're

[1:21:23] not one of my students, so are you?" Oh,

[1:21:25] I think it's kind of a cutesy thing. I

[1:21:27] don't think it was sinister

[1:21:29] uh or evil or anything. Oops.

[1:21:34] I think it's kind of a knowing glance. I

[1:21:36] wouldn't call that evil.

[1:21:39] Um direct eye contact can feel evil

[1:21:42] though sometimes. All of this marketing

[1:21:44] about his body mutating and people still

[1:21:46] think it's a symbiote. The suit wouldn't

[1:21:47] give him organic webbing. Yeah, agreed.

[1:21:50] Agreed. I think it's there's some other

[1:21:52] process.

[1:21:53] Voice before Hulk at the end sounds

[1:21:55] altered.

[1:22:01] Um, I'll check it out later.

[1:22:04] >> I miss you, mate.

[1:22:06] >> I mean, in trailer editing, often often

[1:22:08] they kind of the the audio will sounds

[1:22:11] just a little weird.

[1:22:13] I apologize if I'm taking your words out

[1:22:14] of context, but are you saying you don't

[1:22:16] want another trilogy with Tom? No, I'm

[1:22:18] I'm completely fine with another Tom

[1:22:19] Holland, Peter Parker trilogy, like um

[1:22:22] Brand New Day, something else in a sixth

[1:22:24] movie. totally fine with that. But I do

[1:22:26] think in the next movie we need to team

[1:22:28] him up with a Miles and Gwen or

[1:22:30] something like that. What I what I don't

[1:22:32] want is like another trilogy where he

[1:22:34] has a organic webbing in all three of

[1:22:36] them. I think that'd just be a little

[1:22:38] weird. I I I don't know. Maybe they have

[1:22:40] some other bigger story that they're

[1:22:41] telling. Um or if they are going to have

[1:22:44] his organic webbing, you have to have

[1:22:45] like another Peter who has web shooters

[1:22:48] in some way.

[1:22:51] Um,

[1:22:53] will we get Doom taking out Thanos just

[1:22:54] to be established? Yeah, I do think

[1:22:56] we'll see something like that. Yeah, in

[1:22:58] all the Russo brothers marketing,

[1:22:59] they're like, he's even more powerful

[1:23:00] than Thanos. Yeah. So, I I think that's

[1:23:03] going to be part of it. Um,

[1:23:06] we want to see Mad Evolved Peter running

[1:23:09] for Shocker.

[1:23:11] Okay. Are we going to bring back Shocker

[1:23:12] in this movie? I think we already have a

[1:23:14] lot of villains, but if you're going to

[1:23:15] say in the next movie or the movie after

[1:23:17] that, um, do we think Hulk will join him

[1:23:22] or separate off like in Age of Ultron?

[1:23:25] Um, I do think we're going to see like

[1:23:26] Peter Parker and Hulk kind of team up in

[1:23:28] this movie. I think we're not even

[1:23:30] seeing really anything from the final

[1:23:31] act of this movie. I would guess in

[1:23:33] these trailers, I think there's other

[1:23:35] stuff going on. So, yeah, I do think

[1:23:37] that they are going to team up at some

[1:23:39] point. Um, I don't think he's going to

[1:23:41] go off worlds or anything like that at

[1:23:43] the end of this movie.

[1:23:45] Question. Do you think the DODC will be

[1:23:46] the main villain giving Scorpion a suit

[1:23:48] and making Gene control people's minds?

[1:23:50] Tilman could play a Spidey villain

[1:23:51] representing the DODC. Yeah, I think the

[1:23:53] DODC could be villainous in this movie.

[1:23:56] We see a shot there was like an Empire

[1:23:58] magazine photo where where Tal Tilman is

[1:24:02] shaking Peter's hand and it's in the

[1:24:03] rain. Now, maybe Peter makes like some

[1:24:06] kind of deal to work with the DODC in

[1:24:08] the middle part of this movie and he

[1:24:09] finds out that they're actually really

[1:24:10] really bad and he turns on them or they

[1:24:12] turn on him uh after that handshake has

[1:24:15] happened. But I think they could be the

[1:24:17] villainous presence of this movie.

[1:24:21] A Red Hulk call back. I don't think

[1:24:22] we're going to see Red Hulk in this

[1:24:24] movie. Um the suit look a little janky.

[1:24:27] I don't know what shot you're referring

[1:24:29] to, but maybe you're someone saying

[1:24:30] like, "Oh, they they VFXed this over a

[1:24:34] black suit." Um, I don't know. I think

[1:24:37] editing and VFX and trailer shots often

[1:24:39] looks a little janky. You know, you

[1:24:41] don't always know the context.

[1:24:45] Do we expect any Agents of Shield

[1:24:47] appearances? Unfortunately, not in this

[1:24:49] movie.

[1:24:50] Uh, yeah, Church, thanks for the super

[1:24:52] chat. A lot of us have been talking

[1:24:53] about Meline Prior throughout the

[1:24:55] stream. Um, like Satie Sync could be

[1:24:57] playing a villain in Brand New Day and

[1:24:59] Gan Gray later with the Jackal

[1:25:01] connection. I just think like starting

[1:25:04] with Meline Prior is just an A to D

[1:25:06] jump. It's too far of a jump for average

[1:25:08] movie goers to wrap their heads around.

[1:25:11] Um, like especially and and if you're

[1:25:14] someone like Sadie Sink and her agents

[1:25:15] and her managers, like if you're signing

[1:25:18] up to play a role in these movies, I

[1:25:20] don't think you're signing up to play

[1:25:21] like uh the clone of the bigname

[1:25:24] character to start with. You know,

[1:25:27] you're you're signing up to play the

[1:25:28] character. Sadi sinks star power after

[1:25:30] Stranger Things is very much on the

[1:25:32] rise. Um, I I just would be very

[1:25:35] surprised if if it's Meline Prior, even

[1:25:38] though that makes more sense to people.

[1:25:39] You know what I think? the fact that I'm

[1:25:40] getting so many Meline Prior questions,

[1:25:42] there's got to be some other Tik Tocker

[1:25:43] who just was like, "It's Meline Prior

[1:25:45] instead. I gotta after I do this stream,

[1:25:47] I'm gonna find whatever Tik Tocker put

[1:25:49] that in everyone's heads." Uh because it

[1:25:51] that always happens when I do these

[1:25:53] streams. It's not the obvious thing.

[1:25:54] It's this other curveball thing and it's

[1:25:56] because some big Tik Tocker said it's

[1:25:58] got to be that and then it's going to be

[1:26:00] the thing. It's just it's going to be

[1:26:01] it's going to be Gan Gray. Uh NYC

[1:26:05] Skyline fight with Red Hulk. Also,

[1:26:06] Widow's Bay finale was amazing. Great

[1:26:08] bit of dialogue in the trolley problem.

[1:26:09] interesting take New Roxers fans since

[1:26:11] 2020. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:26:12] Thank you. I agree. I'm not going to

[1:26:14] spoil the Widows Bay finale. Amazing

[1:26:16] show and I love this finale and I agree.

[1:26:18] The specifically the way they framed the

[1:26:20] trolley problem argument blew my mind

[1:26:23] even more than that episode of The Good

[1:26:24] Place when they addressed it.

[1:26:27] I agree. We do need a Phil Coulson

[1:26:29] return. This movie is not the time for

[1:26:30] it. Um I think at least two movies pass

[1:26:34] to pass the torch. They just do one

[1:26:35] people will feel like they didn't get

[1:26:37] enough time with both in the same movie.

[1:26:38] I think all you need is one movie with

[1:26:40] everyone together to properly pass that

[1:26:42] torch. That's just me though.

[1:26:47] Aha. Were you the one who were the

[1:26:48] origin of the Meline Prior argument?

[1:26:53] Um Doomsday question, Toby versus Hugh

[1:26:56] and Deadpool and Doc O as the plus ones

[1:26:59] for the cold open or something like

[1:27:00] that. Thanks, brother. Uh

[1:27:03] neither were confirmed and I think the

[1:27:05] Rooster brothers have a different

[1:27:06] opening scene in mind. And I think it's

[1:27:08] going to start in the Doomstat Armory. I

[1:27:10] think that's the opening scene of the

[1:27:12] movie based off of the scoring session

[1:27:14] with Chainino and the editor and

[1:27:17] Sylvestri. Um, there were some AI photos

[1:27:20] going around of like Hugh Jackman and

[1:27:23] Tobey Maguire and Ryan Reynolds. Those

[1:27:26] are AI. I don't think all three of those

[1:27:28] guys are going to be in the movie. Of

[1:27:30] those three, the likeliest to be in

[1:27:31] there

[1:27:34] probably in this order,

[1:27:37] Deadpool Logan

[1:27:40] Toby, Peter. Uh, just because I'm I'm

[1:27:43] putting Deadpool over Wolverine because

[1:27:45] like we need to explain how Gambit got

[1:27:49] out of the void to get to the X-Mansion

[1:27:52] in this universe. And I think it was

[1:27:54] Deadpool who would have had the sling

[1:27:55] ring to rescue him. But again, I it

[1:27:59] could be none of the three are in the

[1:28:01] movie.

[1:28:03] I agree. Gene forcing Bruce to Hulk out

[1:28:05] feels pretty villainous. Again, that is

[1:28:07] the context of the trailer, I'll admit.

[1:28:09] Um, it's really Bruce's damaged uh

[1:28:12] device that caused him to Hulk out. And

[1:28:14] I don't know if like Gan destroyed that

[1:28:15] or like something else destroyed that.

[1:28:18] Uh, but like but he could. I think at

[1:28:19] some point she will inhabit his brain. I

[1:28:22] mean, who knows? Maybe she's just trying

[1:28:24] to get him to the Greyhulk form to go

[1:28:25] destroy whatever technology the DODC

[1:28:28] has. It's not about trying to like do

[1:28:30] massive property damage. Specifically,

[1:28:32] if you're trying to go to the Green Hulk

[1:28:35] and then bypass that to Greyhulk, you're

[1:28:37] trying to have a Hulk that you can just

[1:28:38] like focus more than just being someone

[1:28:40] to cause massive property damage.

[1:28:44] Another question here. Quicksilver is

[1:28:46] already dead in the MCU, but he was a

[1:28:48] part of the Brotherhood and X-Men. So,

[1:28:50] who will take his place as the speedster

[1:28:52] mutant? Well, I know Vision Quest is

[1:28:54] gonna establish Tommy Maximoff

[1:28:58] as uh as the speed of this universe. So,

[1:29:03] we have a speedster there. We have Mari

[1:29:05] from the Eternals as a speedster, but I

[1:29:08] also don't think there has to be a

[1:29:10] speedster in the Brotherhood of Evil

[1:29:11] Mutants. Also, once we get to everybody

[1:29:14] in Secret Wars, it's not that hard to

[1:29:16] establish that there's a universe where

[1:29:17] all these alignments of X-Men and and

[1:29:20] villainous mutants existed where there

[1:29:22] could be another Quicks. I mean, uh

[1:29:26] there's still the X-Men universe that

[1:29:29] we're going to be visiting in this movie

[1:29:30] that could have a Wanda or a Quicksilver

[1:29:32] in that universe.

[1:29:34] Um, we'll see. All it's implied that

[1:29:37] like Wanda looks like Elizabeth Olsen in

[1:29:39] every universe in the multiverse. So, if

[1:29:41] there is a Wanda in the 10005 universe,

[1:29:44] it's going to look like Elizabeth Olsen.

[1:29:45] I I just, you know, Lizzie has been

[1:29:47] asked, and I just don't think she's

[1:29:49] going to be in Doomsday as much as we

[1:29:50] all want and need her to be.

[1:29:53] Um, okay. So, we've been going for about

[1:29:55] 90 minutes here. Uh, so I might have to

[1:29:57] call it here so I can get back to work

[1:29:59] on the Easter egg breakdown that's going

[1:30:01] to be coming out in a couple hours. Um,

[1:30:04] thank you all for joining me on this

[1:30:05] stream. Uh, I feel like I've answered as

[1:30:07] many questions as I possibly can. And

[1:30:09] we're going to be going back again and

[1:30:11] again and again through this trailer to

[1:30:13] break down everything that you missed.

[1:30:15] Uh, I really really enjoyed doing this

[1:30:17] with you guys. Whenever there's like big

[1:30:19] breaking trailers that come out, uh, I

[1:30:21] want to be able to break this down with

[1:30:23] you guys if it's happening while I'm at

[1:30:25] work. Um, an announcement that I want to

[1:30:27] make. Uh, New Rockstars is going to be

[1:30:30] revisiting the three Tom Holland

[1:30:32] Spider-Man movies. Spider-Man Homecoming

[1:30:35] from 2017, Spider-Man Far From Home in

[1:30:37] 2019, and Spider-Man No Way Home from

[1:30:39] 2021. We're going to do re-breakdowns of

[1:30:42] those because we realized the breakdowns

[1:30:44] that we did in the past on New Rockstars

[1:30:45] were incomplete. There was a lot of

[1:30:47] details that I did not cover. Even the

[1:30:49] second time I broke it down, there's

[1:30:50] just a lot of details that I missed. Uh,

[1:30:52] from things that like Tom Holland and

[1:30:54] the and and John Watts and Kevin Feige

[1:30:57] have said about those movies since then,

[1:30:59] things that the Russo brothers have said

[1:31:00] about uh the other Tom Holland Avengers

[1:31:03] movies that I think it'd be great to

[1:31:05] rewatch those movies to track the

[1:31:06] characters journey ahead of Spider-Man

[1:31:09] brand new day. So, those breakdowns are

[1:31:11] going to be huge videos that come to the

[1:31:12] New Rockstars channel in the month of

[1:31:14] July. We're going to do them weekly in

[1:31:15] July. So, subscribe if you haven't

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[1:31:19] Um,

[1:31:20] and uh, other things. Oh, the shirt I'm

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[1:31:28] your super chat. Uh, we all know uh, the

[1:31:31] talks of Gene, but what if she's not

[1:31:32] her? She's vessel of someone hopping

[1:31:34] around a mental entity like Malice or

[1:31:35] Shadow King. Oh, Shadow King is probably

[1:31:38] the mutant villain I want to see in the

[1:31:40] mutant saga first, the first mutant

[1:31:41] villain. Um, I like that idea, but

[1:31:44] again, I just think she is going to be

[1:31:46] the character we all think she is. Um,

[1:31:49] they're taking the more straightforward,

[1:31:51] simpler route.

[1:31:53] Um, again, thank you all for joining me.

[1:31:55] A huge thanks to Brian for setting up

[1:31:57] the stream. Hey,

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[1:32:57] Uh thanks so much for watching guys.

[1:33:00] I've been Eric Voss and uh we'll see you

[1:33:03] next time. Bye everybody.

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