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LTT writers debate 4 tech questions: Linux migration barriers, console exclusivity, 8GB VRAM adequacy, and used hardware risk. They discuss decision paralysis vs. fear, the predatory nature of exclusives, the future-proofing issue with 8GB VRAM, and the risk vs. value of used hardware.

[0:24]
Barriers to switching to Linux

Fear of doing something wrong, decision paralysis (too many distros), comfort with known systems, and general laziness are the main reasons people avoid Linux.

[3:04]
Console exclusives: mostly negative

Exclusives are predatory and limit consumer choice. The only theoretical pro is driving competition, but cons outweigh it. Modern hardware similarity and cloud gaming reduce the need for exclusives.

[5:14]
8GB VRAM adequacy depends on resolution

At 1080p, 8GB is fine; at 1440p or 4K, 10-12GB is needed. It's not future-proof for 2-3 years, but upscalers (e.g., DLSS) can extend lifespan. If already have 8GB, ride it out; if upgrading, consider more.

[6:32]
Used hardware risk vs. value

Buying used is generally acceptable for informed consumers, especially if they check for physical damage and usage history. However, the used market has worsened due to inflated prices and lack of warranty. Hard drives are risky, but recertified drives with warranty are a safer bet.

The LTT team offers nuanced views: Linux adoption is hindered by psychological barriers, console exclusives mostly harm gamers, 8GB VRAM is borderline, and used hardware is a calculated risk. The debate highlights the importance of context and personal needs in tech choices.

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What are two main reasons people avoid switching to Linux according to the LTT team?

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Fear of doing something wrong and decision paralysis due to too many distributions.

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What is the primary argument against console exclusives in the video?

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They are predatory and limit consumer choice, inventing a reason to buy a specific platform.

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Is 8GB VRAM enough for gaming at 4K according to the discussion?

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No, at 4K you need at least 10-12GB of VRAM.

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What technology does LTT mention that can extend the lifespan of 8GB cards?

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Upscalers like DLSS can reduce render resolution and help extend the lifespan.

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What is one risk of buying used hard drives according to the video?

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You cannot know if the drive has been physically knocked around, which can shorten its lifespan.

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What is a safer alternative to buying used hard drives?

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Buying recertified drives from a certified reseller that includes a warranty.

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💡 Key Takeaways

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Fear as a barrier to Linux

Highlights a psychological factor often overlooked in tech adoption: fear of the unknown.

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Exclusives as predatory

Directly calls out the business model of console exclusives as harmful to consumers.

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VRAM requirements by resolution

Provides a practical guideline: 8GB for 1080p, 10-12GB for higher resolutions.

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Upscalers extend VRAM lifespan

Explains how technology can mitigate hardware limitations.

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Recertified drives with warranty

Offers a safer alternative to risky used hard drives.

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[00:00] Every day, thousands of people argue

[00:02] about computers online. Whether it's

[00:04] hardware folk arguing over which GPU to

[00:06] use or the gaming fans discussing why

[00:08] Red Dead Redemption looks better than

[00:09] Hello Kitty Island Adventure. But, what

[00:11] do we, the writers of LTT, think about

[00:14] these questions? Can we all agree which

[00:16] phone is the best phone to ever phone?

[00:18] Or, will we just yell again about how

[00:20] ray tracing just isn't worth it? Let's

[00:22] not mess around. We're going to start

[00:24] with the first question. What is

[00:25] stopping most people from switching to

[00:27] Linux? My opinion on what's preventing

[00:29] most people from switching is the fear

[00:31] of doing something wrong. Maybe it's

[00:33] picking the wrong distro or not knowing

[00:36] the right question to ask in order to

[00:37] set up gaming. I think there's kind of

[00:39] just a general fear about touching it

[00:42] that I think prevents most people from

[00:43] switching.

[00:44] >> I'm ready.

[00:46] >> Wow, you guys all disagree with me.

[00:48] Okay. You were the first one to hold up

[00:49] a sign.

[00:50] >> You're like kind of on track, but I

[00:51] think it's like a decision paralysis.

[00:53] >> Sure.

[00:53] >> There's too many options. And so, yes,

[00:56] exactly. I'm too afraid to do things,

[00:57] but it's because there's too many.

[00:59] Whereas, like an Apple,

[01:01] I'm there's only one option. So, I just

[01:03] pick one in an Apple. You pick it. Or,

[01:05] you pick Windows and you're done.

[01:07] Whereas, with Linux, all of a sudden

[01:08] there's more things to dive into. I

[01:10] don't want to have to pick which fork of

[01:14] Linux that I'm using.

[01:15] >> I mean, do you guys agree with that or

[01:17] do you have a different

[01:18] >> Yeah, I I've I've got a lot of the same

[01:20] kind of sentiment, but a lot of it's

[01:22] really coming down to people's comfort

[01:23] levels. They're comfortable with what

[01:25] they know and they're comfortable with

[01:26] what they have. They don't want to

[01:28] venture into the unknown and

[01:31] find out that they may not like it

[01:33] there.

[01:33] >> At the end of the day, people are lazy.

[01:35] >> Yeah, like it's just true. Like it's and

[01:37] it's a lot of work to switch your stuff.

[01:38] That's why people don't want to switch

[01:39] phones.

[01:40] >> Yeah, like how many people drive Android

[01:42] for forever just because that's what

[01:44] they bought first?

[01:44] >> And how many people have been on an

[01:46] iPhone cuz that's the first thing they

[01:47] bought. People are just lazy and

[01:48] switching anything is a lot of effort.

[01:51] Even if it's easy, the idea of changing.

[01:53] >> And I think it goes back to why I I it

[01:55] up of like it's just the fear of it is

[01:58] is ultimately what I think still stops

[01:59] people and I think all of these kind of

[02:01] gather under one roof almost of just

[02:03] like it's the unknown that might make

[02:05] people not switch. I spent

[02:08] >> a long time trying to convince Shay to

[02:11] switch to a bank so that we could get a

[02:13] $500 cash promo.

[02:17] And I was like, all you have to do

[02:18] sorry, my phone is going off. Oh right,

[02:20] I have a doctor's appointment.

[02:22] >> Right now?

[02:22] >> Yeah, I forgot about this shoot this

[02:25] uh

[02:26] >> [laughter]

[02:27] >> How long is it? Quick.

[02:28] >> Hello. All right, I just I'll be just a

[02:30] second. Can I put you on hold?

[02:32] >> Good. How are you?

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[03:00] >> There you go. You can get it. I believe

[03:02] in you.

[03:02] >> There you go. Are console exclusive

[03:04] games a good thing for gamers?

[03:08] >> No.

[03:11] Yeah.

[03:12] >> Uh consumer choice is always going to be

[03:14] a benefit being able to play more games

[03:17] on the platforms that you already own

[03:18] will in the long term benefit you.

[03:21] I think that it's interesting to see the

[03:23] flip recently from the communities about

[03:26] asking for exclusives back because they

[03:28] want to like justify the reason that

[03:30] they bought

[03:31] >> Yeah.

[03:32] >> an Xbox or a PS5, right? But I think

[03:34] that is just a reflection of the

[03:37] predatory nature of exclusivity. It

[03:38] invented a reason for you to have to buy

[03:41] something. Whereas now, you don't have

[03:44] to buy that thing, you have the choice

[03:45] to buy the game on the platform that you

[03:47] want. So that PS5 is no longer

[03:50] valuable for its exclusivity. It's It's

[03:52] just you They're just showing how the

[03:53] tactic worked and now people are like

[03:55] feeling bad because they spent a lot of

[03:57] money on a PS5

[03:59] and there's no reason that they couldn't

[04:00] have [music] just kept with their Xbox

[04:01] or whatever. I will say the only

[04:03] positive that I think can come from

[04:05] exclusive games is it could

[04:07] theoretically drive competition in the

[04:09] gaming space of like really trying to

[04:11] make a really stand out title for that

[04:13] console. But saying that, I think there

[04:16] are way more cons to having exclusivity

[04:19] than that

[04:20] >> pro.

[04:20] >> Yeah, I think it's only good for the

[04:21] people making the hardware. [music]

[04:23] >> Yeah.

[04:23] >> And it also used to make a lot more

[04:25] sense because before if you're making a

[04:27] game for an N64 versus PS1, they're

[04:30] completely different.

[04:30] >> Yeah.

[04:31] >> You have to develop it completely

[04:32] differently. And so now everything's

[04:33] basically a computer. And everything's

[04:35] in the cloud anyway so you don't have to

[04:37] worry about like oh CD versus cartridge.

[04:39] >> Yeah.

[04:40] >> So at this point, no. It doesn't even

[04:42] help the game developer.

[04:43] >> No. No. They're just locked into

[04:44] something.

[04:45] >> Yeah.

[04:45] >> And you go like well Nintendo has like

[04:47] all these cool like exclusive games. I

[04:48] was like yeah.

[04:49] >> And that's why you're buying a Switch.

[04:51] >> why I bought a Switch too.

[04:52] >> And now you have to buy a Switch to play

[04:54] these cool games as opposed to being

[04:55] able to play those games on their own

[04:56] merit.

[04:56] >> Also Nintendo uh

[04:58] >> Oh, they're awful.

[04:58] >> They're terrible so like yeah.

[05:00] >> They're corporate tyrants. Like

[05:01] [laughter]

[05:02] they make great games and beloved

[05:04] content and [music] they're terrible.

[05:06] >> Corporations suck.

[05:07] >> I would never be part of a corporation.

[05:09] Wait.

[05:10] >> Wait a minute. [laughter]

[05:14] >> Is 8 gigs of VRAM enough today? I will

[05:18] say yes depending on your resolution

[05:22] that you're playing at.

[05:23] >> I agree with you.

[05:24] >> I disagree.

[05:25] >> Oh, you do agree okay. I think at 1080p,

[05:27] 8 gigs is still totally fine. The

[05:29] problem is 1440p is becoming a lot more

[05:31] common these days. A lot of people are

[05:32] gaming on their TVs in the living rooms.

[05:34] That's 4K more than likely. Some people

[05:36] have 4K monitors and and anything above

[05:39] 1080p, no. You need at least like 10 to

[05:41] 12 gigs of VRAM.

[05:42] >> Yeah, I think it's enough like today but

[05:44] I think it's It's of those things of

[05:45] like if you buy an 8-gig card now,

[05:48] you're going to be kind of screwing

[05:49] yourself over for in 2 to 3 years. It's

[05:51] kind of a difficult like future-proofing

[05:53] for your gaming experience.

[05:54] >> I was frustrated that there was only 8

[05:56] gigs of VRAM on the 3070.

[05:58] >> Yeah.

[05:59] >> years ago. I happily bought the card. I

[06:01] wanted the card to last 5 plus years.

[06:03] I'm like 8 gigs is not going to be

[06:05] enough in 5 years.

[06:06] >> Yeah.

[06:06] >> It's like something to really consider

[06:08] if you're going to be currently

[06:09] upgrading. If you currently have 8 gigs,

[06:10] like I wouldn't worry about it.

[06:11] >> Sure.

[06:12] >> Yeah, that's a great way of wording

[06:13] >> Ride it out, but if you're like

[06:14] upgrading, consider it. But also with

[06:16] things like upscalers continuing to

[06:19] improve in terms of image quality,

[06:20] requiring lower render resolution, it

[06:22] might be able to extend

[06:24] >> Yeah.

[06:25] >> the lifespan of 8-gig cards.

[06:26] >> DLSS, love it or hate it, has done

[06:28] wonders for extending the lifespan of

[06:30] cards.

[06:31] >> Next one.

[06:32] >> Oh, buying used hardware is an

[06:34] unnecessary risk. You should just buy

[06:37] new. I think there are some cases where

[06:39] I would agree with that, but I think 90%

[06:42] of the time buying a used PC hardware

[06:45] thing, as long as you kind of know what

[06:46] you're looking for, is there physical

[06:48] damage, how long has it been in use for.

[06:51] I think that I disagree with that

[06:53] statement, and I think buying used is

[06:54] totally acceptable. You just might need

[06:56] to do a little bit more research on it.

[06:58] >> I agree with your disagree.

[06:59] >> Yeah, I'll better I'll better agree.

[07:00] >> Yeah, there you go.

[07:01] >> I'll better agree.

[07:02] >> I disagree with his

[07:03] >> Yeah.

[07:04] >> disagree.

[07:04] >> You go first.

[07:05] >> Yeah.

[07:05] >> Unnecessary risk. It is not needed,

[07:08] especially with new hardware. Also, I

[07:10] think that the used market, thanks to

[07:12] the uh easy accessibility of market

[07:15] places across the internet, the amount

[07:17] of value on the used market for an

[07:18] informed consumer has dramatically

[07:21] worsened.

[07:22] >> Dude, you used to be able to get any

[07:23] electronic like 3 months later 50% off.

[07:26] >> Yeah, because but now everybody now

[07:27] everybody knows what they bought.

[07:29] >> 80%.

[07:30] >> what I have, right?

[07:31] >> And so what you end up doing is you end

[07:34] up buying something that doesn't have a

[07:35] warranty,

[07:36] um has a uh usage history that you don't

[07:39] know, you can't return it easily.

[07:40] >> Yep.

[07:41] >> It is a legitimate risk, and it's hard

[07:44] to find

[07:45] >> [music]

[07:46] >> those deals. And with prices feeling so

[07:48] inflated all the time, right? Like there

[07:49] you can get a used card that feels like

[07:52] a good deal because that current card,

[07:55] like the 40 your 4070, is selling at

[07:58] $200 over MSRP.

[07:59] >> Yeah.

[08:00] >> So, when they're selling it at MSRP, a

[08:02] year old, what a steal. It feels like a

[08:04] good deal. And [laughter] but you're

[08:05] just incurring you're just you are

[08:07] incurring risk. Do I think it's

[08:09] that big of a risk? As somebody who's

[08:11] sold and also purchased a lot of

[08:13] hardware, like used, I am yet to be

[08:15] burned in a bad way from buying used

[08:18] hardware.

[08:18] >> Knock on wood for that one.

[08:20] >> Like I got lots of used hard drives that

[08:21] I'm sure are just waiting to die.

[08:24] >> I would I was going to say hard drives

[08:25] are one of the few things I wouldn't buy

[08:27] used.

[08:28] >> And that was what I brought up with like

[08:30] depending on how long it's been used

[08:31] for. And like there are things you can

[08:32] check with hard drives, right? You can

[08:34] check smart stats if the buyer will let

[08:36] you.

[08:36] >> doesn't tell you if it's been knocked

[08:38] around, though. Like I killed three

[08:40] drives in a row because Amazon couldn't

[08:42] figure out how to ship a hard drive

[08:43] properly.

[08:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. That's

[08:45] >> I just don't buy hard drives off Amazon

[08:47] anymore.

[08:47] >> Yeah. I mean, I buy like recertified

[08:49] drives, and I know that there's a risk

[08:50] with recertified drives where if the

[08:52] controller was the bad part of it, yeah,

[08:54] there's a fresh controller on it. You

[08:55] don't know anything about the longevity

[08:56] of the drives. But when you buy from

[08:58] like a certified like reseller,

[09:00] >> Server part deals, whatever.

[09:01] >> they come with a warranty.

[09:03] >> Yes.

[09:03] >> And I've claimed the warranty.

[09:05] >> Recertified's a bit of a different

[09:07] category than used, though, too.

[09:08] >> Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't call it like

[09:10] used.

[09:10] >> Used plus.

[09:11] >> Yeah.

[09:12] >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

[09:13] >> All righty. Question number six.

[09:15] >> Mac devices are better for

[09:17] professionals. This is a hard one. It

[09:19] almost comes back to the whole

[09:21] discussion about console exclusives.

[09:23] What about the Mac exclusive software?

[09:25] Really depends on what you're doing

[09:27] because workload dependent, you may not

[09:30] have a choice.

[09:31] >> Mhm.

[09:32] >> You may have to be using a Mac because

[09:34] it's got the best software for what you

[09:36] want to do. You may have to use a PC

[09:39] with Windows because it's got the best

[09:41] software that you can be using. That may

[09:43] lock you out of Linux as an option as

[09:45] well. I'm going to disagree with it.

[09:47] >> Yeah, I guess I agree this looks awkward

[09:49] cuz now we're thumbs up with you, but I

[09:50] agree with David.

[09:51] >> I agree so yeah, we're thumbs upping I'm

[09:53] thumbs I agree with David.

[09:54] >> That he disagrees.

[09:55] >> Yeah.

[09:55] >> Yeah, okay.

[09:56] >> [laughter]

[09:57] >> Yeah, I think it basically you recapped

[09:59] it pretty good. It's really hard to use

[10:01] the blanket term professionals though.

[10:03] Professional what? Like are you a

[10:05] professional emailer? Because then no,

[10:07] you don't need a MacBook. Are you a

[10:09] professional Final Cut Pro editor? Then

[10:12] yes, you probably need a MacBook.

[10:14] There's infinite number of professions

[10:16] out there. So having a blanket term like

[10:18] that, no, I would not say Mac devices

[10:20] are better.

[10:20] >> I could be just be ignorant cuz I'm not

[10:22] an Apple user, but how many softwares

[10:23] are limited to [music] Apple that don't

[10:24] have a Windows equivalent?

[10:27] >> A lot of it's in the creative space.

[10:28] >> Really?

[10:29] >> Yeah.

[10:29] >> But all of Adobe

[10:30] >> Adobe is cross-platform on both, but I

[10:32] mean if you grow up as a Final Cut

[10:34] >> person because you bought your MacBook.

[10:36] >> Yeah, but you can learn Premiere.

[10:37] >> It's really easy to say that until

[10:39] you've been someone who's growing up

[10:40] with a software. It's a huge reason

[10:41] Adobe has such a chokehold on the

[10:43] industry because they got into schools

[10:45] early and then people grow up with it.

[10:47] >> It's less the big industry software and

[10:49] more the like niche add-ons that

[10:53] for specific workflows because

[10:55] in the creative sphere there's a lot of

[10:57] like just Mac users. So people will make

[11:00] support it like things that support

[11:01] workflows on Mac. Those things can also

[11:03] be found on other operating systems.

[11:04] >> Sure.

[11:04] >> Yeah.

[11:05] >> One thing I will say is that I have

[11:06] noticed that there are cases where

[11:08] software is better on the Mac version

[11:11] than the Windows version. And I think in

[11:13] those cases that's where it could be

[11:15] better for professionals. Adobe Premiere

[11:17] is a prime example of that. It

[11:20] I was going to swear. It sucks on

[11:23] Windows, especially AMD chips. I have

[11:25] had way less issues with Premiere on

[11:27] Mac.

[11:28] >> Really?

[11:28] >> Then yes. Saying that, it's Premiere so

[11:30] it still kind of sucks.

[11:32] >> [music]

[11:32] >> But overall, that's a use case that I've

[11:35] had a better experience with. I also

[11:36] think that there is an aura that comes

[11:38] from opening a MacBook as opposed to a

[11:40] Windows laptop.

[11:40] >> Oh, yeah.

[11:41] >> When you're going at your business

[11:42] meetings, right? I think that's like

[11:44] literally a thing whether we like it or

[11:45] not.

[11:46] >> People made fun of me for the whole

[11:47] social aspect of me buying an iPhone,

[11:49] but like there is a social aspect to

[11:52] getting work done on a Mac. Whether you

[11:54] agree with it or not, people, it is a

[11:56] thing.

[11:57] >> You go into the boardroom and you open

[11:58] up your Chromebook,

[12:00] people are going to think about that.

[12:01] >> [laughter]

[12:02] >> It's not I'm not I'm not trying to like

[12:04] Use your Chromebook if it's exactly what

[12:06] you need. There's literally nothing

[12:07] wrong with it. I'm just saying that that

[12:09] people

[12:10] humans are dumb and weird and our brains

[12:13] make a million quick judgments in a snap

[12:15] second.

[12:16] >> That aura can go both ways with a

[12:18] MacBook too.

[12:18] >> Sure.

[12:19] >> Yeah, that's true. That's true. You

[12:20] >> Oh, you use a Mac.

[12:21] >> in with like a MacBook, you walk in and

[12:23] you're like, "Hello, starving artists."

[12:24] And you walk in with like a MacBook Pro

[12:26] and you're like, "Let's talk." And it's

[12:27] like everyone's like

[12:29] >> All right, Adam. Next one.

[12:32] >> Are folding phones really worth the

[12:34] extra price?

[12:36] Nah, man. Like they suck. They're

[12:39] They're bad. Oh, I'm sorry. They're not

[12:41] bad. That's way too reductive. Folding

[12:44] phones have such an intense [music]

[12:46] price premium without providing

[12:47] substantial

[12:49] benefits to workflows unless you are

[12:51] very specific people. It's a similar

[12:53] question to being like, "Is an RTX

[12:55] [music] Pro 6000 worth the price to jump

[12:58] over a a 5090?" Unless you are a very

[13:01] specific person, no.

[13:03] And 99% of what you can get done on your

[13:06] normal phone, you can get done on your

[13:07] folding phone.

[13:08] >> See, I was disagreeing when you said it

[13:09] was not worth the extra price, but then

[13:11] you like clarified with that and I'm

[13:12] like, "Okay, I I get it."

[13:14] >> Yeah.

[13:14] >> I

[13:16] loved when I had my Fold 4 when I did IT

[13:18] work. It was so amazing for the

[13:20] multitasking. I could have my password

[13:21] manager on a little window, a Teams on

[13:23] another little window in case I I

[13:25] communicating with a co-worker or

[13:26] something, and then Google on half the

[13:28] screen for when I'm trying to Google

[13:29] what the problem is. And having that

[13:31] multitasking ability, phenomenal. And

[13:33] it's something that I genuinely miss

[13:35] with my iPhone. So, Apple, please make a

[13:37] folding phone. I think that they are

[13:39] worth it with the extra price. Again, if

[13:40] you're someone who uses it. But,

[13:42] >> flip phones

[13:43] >> Oh,

[13:44] >> No. Flip phones

[13:45] >> No.

[13:46] >> are just never worth it. They're just

[13:47] They're just cool.

[13:48] >> They've come down a lot, and they're

[13:49] getting closer to the price of like

[13:51] flagship phones, but I still think that

[13:53] it's not worth it. You should just get a

[13:54] flagship phone.

[13:55] >> I don't even think flagship phones are

[13:56] worth it.

[13:57] >> I agree with that, too.

[13:58] >> Get like a A-series Samsung or a

[14:00] A-series Pixel or E-series iPhone. I

[14:04] don't care what you use. I think almost

[14:06] everyone does not need a flagship phone.

[14:09] >> of people are overpaying for their

[14:10] >> Almost everyone.

[14:11] >> [clears throat]

[14:11] >> I completely agree with you.

[14:12] >> the And then to get a folding phone,

[14:14] it's literally like double the price.

[14:15] You go from like $1,000 to like $2,000.

[14:18] Where you're getting twice You're

[14:19] getting twice

[14:20] >> Yeah, I'm not getting twice the phone.

[14:22] I'm getting twice the screen and four

[14:24] times as fragile.

[14:25] >> Oh my god, that breaks over time.

[14:27] >> more likely to overheat cuz it's so

[14:29] thin.

[14:29] >> Yeah.

[14:30] >> But listen, guys. It's really good.

[14:32] >> For like one thing that I have to do

[14:34] sometimes.

[14:35] >> Next question.

[14:36] >> In your opinion, what was the best phone

[14:38] ever made? I'm probably the worst person

[14:40] for this question cuz I don't really

[14:41] care about phones. But, I believe it

[14:43] would be the Nokia what, the 8210 or

[14:46] something like that? The indestructible

[14:48] one.

[14:48] >> That's crazy.

[14:50] >> the best phone ever made. It will never

[14:51] die. It is indestructible, and we peaked

[14:55] when that was when that was produced.

[14:58] >> Hell no. I mean, you

[14:59] >> Yeah, of course. I'm well aware that

[15:00] this is a bad opinion. I don't care. I I

[15:02] don't care about phones, and I think

[15:04] that almost every advancement we've made

[15:06] has just been icing on a cake at this

[15:09] point.

[15:09] >> my favorite phone was my Note 4 just

[15:11] because it was one of the biggest phones

[15:13] I ever had at the time. Still

[15:15] >> what's the best phone?

[15:16] >> Uh

[15:16] >> That's the problem. It's the best It's

[15:18] not my favorite. It's what the what's

[15:19] the best phone. So, even like my answer

[15:21] was more my favorite phone.

[15:22] >> I really think that the kind of

[15:25] culmination of features with the Galaxy

[15:28] S5 was

[15:30] >> Okay.

[15:30] >> really good.

[15:31] >> Yeah.

[15:31] >> Because it was the last one you still

[15:33] had a user replaceable battery with. It

[15:34] had the gasket around the outside, too,

[15:36] so it was still waterproof as well,

[15:38] which was not common at that point in

[15:40] time.

[15:40] >> Don't you miss dropping your phone and

[15:41] it blowing up?

[15:42] >> I mean, [laughter]

[15:43] that was a feature. That was

[15:44] >> No, it was. Like, it literally was

[15:46] better than it like cracking and

[15:47] breaking the frame.

[15:48] >> And it had Gorilla Glass at that point

[15:49] in time. It was really scratch

[15:52] resistant. It had really good hardware

[15:55] for the time. I think it was a really

[15:56] good package.

[15:57] >> Yeah. Remember how fragile iPhones were

[15:59] when they came out? Yeah. Like, everyone

[16:00] loves to laud the iPhone, but like, you

[16:02] could drop it from like a centimeter and

[16:04] the whole screen is just gone. Like, it

[16:05] was so bad.

[16:06] >> Greatest uh

[16:08] non-smartphone of all time? Sure. The

[16:10] second-gen Motorola RAZR.

[16:12] >> Oh, peak.

[16:13] >> Yeah.

[16:14] >> That's a great phone.

[16:15] >> That's incredible. It was It was

[16:16] beautiful phone.

[16:17] >> Oh, so good. Never believe.

[16:19] >> Gorgeous

[16:20] >> screen. Or if you want to go best

[16:22] feature phone,

[16:23] you got to go with the Sidekick.

[16:26] Uh incredible texting, incredible key

[16:27] >> Oh, sure. You flip it side Yeah.

[16:29] >> If you want to go best smartphone, uh

[16:32] obviously iPhone 4.

[16:33] >> I was going to iPhone 4.

[16:34] >> iPhone 4 was going to be my backup.

[16:35] >> iPhone 5. I think iPhone 5, personally,

[16:37] cuz it's just the iPhone 4, but taller.

[16:40] >> [laughter]

[16:40] >> I think that you got to shout out the LG

[16:44] G2,

[16:46] which was the one where you could pull

[16:48] out the battery. It had replaceable

[16:49] modules at the

[16:50] >> bottom.

[16:50] >> That was sick as hell. Or the HTC One

[16:53] M8. All metal, stainless steel

[16:55] construction. Uh dual stereo speakers.

[16:58] Uh a vibration motor that could give

[17:00] someone a heart attack. It was in It was

[17:03] louder than It was my alarm. I just put

[17:05] it on my nightstand table and the

[17:06] vibration was like

[17:08] >> Comment down below which your favorite

[17:09] phone was that either you had or wish

[17:12] you had growing up. All right, next

[17:13] question. What is better, IEMs or

[17:16] over-the-ear headphones? I would pick

[17:18] over-the-ear headphones, I think every

[17:19] time.

[17:20] >> Yeah.

[17:21] >> I also would pick over-the-ear

[17:22] headphones every time.

[17:22] >> Okay, so no one disagrees.

[17:24] >> But I'm going to make a big a big fight

[17:25] for IEM's.

[17:26] >> IEM's, you can get the same sound

[17:28] quality for like

[17:30] like not even like like like a like a an

[17:32] eighth of the price. You can get like

[17:33] $80 IEM's, they're going to last

[17:35] forever. They're super lightweight,

[17:37] they're super compact, easier for

[17:38] travel. They also have a natural form of

[17:41] noise isolation cuz they literally plug

[17:43] your ears. It's way easier for mobility

[17:44] if you're doing stuff like I don't know,

[17:46] like recording music. If you're a

[17:46] musician and you need to monitor your

[17:48] mix or whatever, you're going to put

[17:49] IEM's on. They are less garish than

[17:53] headphones that are going over your

[17:54] ears, they're less bulky. They're

[17:56] they're harder to steal. If you have a

[17:58] $1,000 pair of IEM's, no one notices. If

[18:01] you have AirPods Max, everyone notices.

[18:03] That's fair.

[18:03] >> Right?

[18:04] >> Yeah. I like headphones for anything

[18:05] that's not mobile. And then if it is

[18:07] mobile, if I got to go to the gym, I'm

[18:09] going to go for a walk or something,

[18:10] then at that point, sure, I'll use

[18:12] AirPods.

[18:12] >> your desk, you'll use overhead.

[18:14] >> any other instance, even if I'm walking

[18:15] around at home, I'd rather then have

[18:17] wireless

[18:18] um just headphones.

[18:19] >> There's a reason why they both exist.

[18:21] On-ear headphones,

[18:22] you can [ __ ] die.

[18:24] >> [laughter]

[18:25] >> Is it me? I'm next?

[18:26] >> I think you're next.

[18:26] >> Okay. What should I invest more money

[18:28] in? A keyboard or a mouse? I know my

[18:32] answer. I know my answer right away. I'm

[18:33] I'm going to go with keyboard. I think

[18:35] naturally people are going to spend more

[18:37] money on their keyboard

[18:39] because that's the part that you're

[18:41] going to be interacting with more, at

[18:43] least for a typical user. Yeah, if

[18:45] you're playing games or whatever, you're

[18:47] going to be using your mouse a whole

[18:48] bunch, but maybe you're using a

[18:49] controller, maybe you're using your

[18:51] mouse with your keyboard. Uh but the

[18:54] keyboard's almost always involved, and

[18:56] [music] I think that's

[18:57] that's where I would spend my money.

[18:59] >> I think you can get a long way with like

[19:01] a $60 mouse, and I think most people are

[19:03] 100% okay with a $60 mouse. And you can

[19:06] say the same thing about a keyboard.

[19:07] However, if I can get a mechanical hot

[19:09] swap keyboard, I can fix that, and I can

[19:12] repair it, and I can have that keyboard

[19:13] for the rest of my life. Whereas, like,

[19:14] yeah, you can change the switches on a

[19:16] mouse, and but it's annoying. The laser

[19:19] gets gunked up after like a long time,

[19:21] and you can clean that, too, but uh I

[19:24] 100% would spend more on a But, I also

[19:26] think that you should spend similar

[19:28] amounts on them.

[19:29] >> I agree with that.

[19:30] >> I don't think you should spend $500 on a

[19:31] keyboard. I don't think you should spend

[19:32] $500 on a mouse, either.

[19:33] >> I think if I was looking at like the

[19:36] comparison between a higher-tier

[19:37] keyboard and a higher-tier mouse, I

[19:39] would personally go with a higher-tier

[19:40] mouse. And I think that's because I can

[19:42] get by with the free Logitech keyboard

[19:45] that you get for gaming and like a

[19:47] little bit of casual typing. Whereas,

[19:49] those free mice suck. If I'm comparing

[19:52] kind of the value level of each. And so,

[19:54] I would rather pick up G502, G305 as a

[19:57] mouse, and still get by with those cheap

[19:59] Logitech keyboards, for example. Saying

[20:00] that, when you have a nice keyboard,

[20:03] it is nice. And I will never deny it's a

[20:05] good typing experience. It's good for

[20:07] repairability.

[20:08] >> Can be good for repairability.

[20:10] >> Can be. Sure. You can buy a $300

[20:12] keyboard that's basically a throwaway.

[20:14] >> Yeah, 100%. Some of the things go wrong.

[20:15] >> Uh I agree. Keyboard better.

[20:18] >> Okay. [laughter]

[20:20] >> All right. Sure. Next question.

[20:22] >> Keyboard and mouse is always better than

[20:24] a controller for PC gaming.

[20:25] >> Mm.

[20:26] >> Always.

[20:27] >> Yeah, that's a big keyword in that.

[20:29] >> Like, obviously not. Obviously not

[20:30] always.

[20:31] >> Yeah. I don't want to play a racing game

[20:33] with a

[20:33] >> I've been playing a [clears throat] lot

[20:34] of Forza Horizon 6, and I I guarantee

[20:36] you I'm not using the keyboard.

[20:37] >> [laughter]

[20:38] >> I think there is definitely some people

[20:40] online that will always argue keyboard

[20:42] and mouse, cuz I was playing 007

[20:43] recently, and there was quite a few

[20:45] people that are like, "Why you playing

[20:46] with a controller?" And I was like, "I

[20:47] don't know. The combat just feels

[20:48] smoother when I play with a controller,

[20:50] for me personally.

[20:51] But, I also understand, I guess, why

[20:53] some people are like, "Oh, no. Aiming is

[20:55] so much better, so you got to just use a

[20:56] mouse if there's anything that involves

[20:58] aiming." I don't know, man. I

[21:00] don't think it's always better.

[21:02] >> There's also a bunch of aim assist on

[21:03] controllers that makes it just feel

[21:05] totally fine. 007's actually pretty

[21:07] aggressive for you.

[21:08] >> the gyro aiming. Like gyro aiming really

[21:11] nice for

[21:12] >> You know, it's not for me, David, but I

[21:13] fully encourage anyone who likes it to

[21:15] use the gyro.

[21:16] >> It is a middle ground between the analog

[21:18] stick and the mouse, and I played the

[21:20] entirety of Last of Us Two with gyro

[21:22] aiming. Phenomenal experience.

[21:24] >> Like snap to where you need to be and

[21:25] then like dial it in. It's like it can

[21:26] be really good. I got pretty good at it

[21:27] with Splatoon.

[21:28] >> Oh, dude, it's competitive all

[21:30] competitive Splatooners, dude, they're

[21:32] >> [laughter]

[21:33] >> I think that like obviously the keyboard

[21:35] and mouse enable certain types of games

[21:37] to exist in a way that they just don't

[21:40] exist on controller.

[21:42] >> A lot of games don't even have keyboard

[21:43] and mouse support.

[21:44] >> Yeah.

[21:44] >> They straight up tell you at the start

[21:45] when you launch the game, "Hey, this

[21:46] requires a controller." Or

[21:47] >> Like Skate is like a prime example. It's

[21:48] like, "Please use a controller."

[21:50] >> You you literally need it for like

[21:51] >> But that's also like not just a PC game.

[21:53] >> True.

[21:54] >> Right? Like I think that like for a lot

[21:55] of like specific PC games you get like

[21:57] stuff like they're certain RTS game.

[21:58] >> That's right. It does specify PC gaming.

[22:01] >> PC gaming, but that's why always but PC

[22:02] games don't just play games that are

[22:04] only on PC.

[22:04] >> But

[22:05] >> I think that there's a lot of cool games

[22:06] that don't translate to um controller.

[22:08] Like I could not imagine trying to play

[22:10] Deadlock.

[22:11] >> Oh god.

[22:12] >> Most MMOs as well. Like

[22:14] >> Oh, yeah, too many.

[22:15] >> You can do things with controllers, and

[22:16] I know that there are programs that

[22:18] people use to be able to remap buttons

[22:20] to controllers and play MMOs like World

[22:22] of Warcraft. But it's

[22:24] >> [laughter]

[22:24] >> it's just so much harder, in my opinion.

[22:27] >> got three hotkey bars all filled up

[22:29] dude, I've seen the UIs that people

[22:31] >> have.

[22:32] >> The thought of playing like World of

[22:32] Warcraft or something on a controller is

[22:34] just like breaking my brain.

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