IKEA's £7 Smart Bulb vs £55 Philips Hue
44sShocking price comparison between a £7 IKEA smart bulb and a £55 Philips Hue bulb sparks curiosity about value.
▶ Play ClipThe video investigates IKEA's surprisingly cheap smart home products, comparing them to premium brands like Philips Hue. The creator tests a range of IKEA tech, from a £7 smart bulb to sensors and lamps, and explores how IKEA can offer such low prices. However, the experience reveals significant reliability issues with Matter connectivity, leading to a critical look at the current state of the smart home standard.
A Philips Hue smart bulb costs £55, while IKEA's equivalent is only £7, sparking an investigation into IKEA's tech.
The creator bought 47 IKEA tech products, including a giraffe lamp, smart tea lights, and a gaming cabinet.
The £7 IKEA bulb offers app control, brightness slider, and full color spectrum, matching Philips Hue's features at a fraction of the cost.
IKEA's smart home products use Matter, a universal standard that allows devices from different brands to work together seamlessly.
A £13 IKEA light strip is not Matter-compatible, but can be controlled via a Matter smart plug, which adds memory for color settings.
IKEA offers a £7 door sensor, motion sensor, and £5 temperature/humidity sensor, all using Matter over Thread for better range and reliability.
The creator questions how IKEA can sell a £5 sensor profitably, noting that a similar sensor alone costs £28.
IKEA aims to become the smart home company by offering low prices, leveraging its massive scale and existing home products.
IKEA's bedroom products, like cabinet lights and a £2 nightlight, are less smart but offer great value with motion sensors.
IKEA's tech products have unique designs, such as a glass bowl with a magnetic phone charger and light, and a £5 speaker that can pair with up to 100 units.
IKEA's USB-C charging station for tea lights claims 35-hour battery life, which the creator tested and confirmed.
IKEA saves costs by not including batteries, reusing parts across products, and leveraging enormous order volumes.
Matter reduces R&D costs, allowing IKEA to enter the smart home market without being a tech company, targeting mass-market customers.
After four days, many IKEA Matter products failed to connect or stay connected, with a 50% success rate for pairing remotes.
The creator concludes that Matter is not ready, as major companies like Apple, Google, and Amazon have little incentive to make it work well.
IKEA's smart home products offer incredible value on paper, but the current implementation of Matter is plagued with reliability issues, making the experience frustrating. Until the standard matures, IKEA's cheap tech remains a risky purchase.
"The title accurately reflects the investigation into IKEA's cheap tech, but the video reveals major reliability issues, making it more nuanced than just 'suspiciously cheap.'"
Philips Hue smart bulb
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IKEA smart bulb
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IKEA Matter remote
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IKEA color light strip
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IKEA door sensor
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IKEA motion sensor
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IKEA temperature and humidity sensor
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IKEA air quality meter
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IKEA nightlight
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IKEA speaker
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IKEA tea light charging station
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IKEA table air purifier
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IKEA giraffe lamp
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IKEA doughnut lamp
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Alexa hub
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Apple TV 4K
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Amazon Echo
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Samsung SmartThings
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Eight Sleep bed
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David Wall
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How much does a Philips Hue smart bulb cost compared to IKEA's smart bulb?
Philips Hue costs £55, IKEA's costs £7.
What is Matter in the context of smart homes?
Matter is a universal standard that allows smart home devices from different companies to work together.
1:35
What is Thread and how does it improve smart home networks?
Thread is a technology that allows devices to communicate directly with each other, acting as signal repeaters, extending range and creating a self-healing network.
4:03
What is the estimated defect rate for IKEA's Matter remotes according to a Reddit user?
50% defect rate, with only 29 out of 59 remotes pairing successfully.
14:33
Why does Samsung have a strong incentive to support Matter?
Samsung has less to protect as they don't have a dominant voice assistant or phone ecosystem, so an open standard helps their products work better with others.
16:10
How does IKEA keep its smart home product prices so low?
By leveraging massive order volumes, reusing parts across products, not including batteries, and accepting low profit margins per unit.
9:01
What is the battery life of IKEA's rechargeable tea lights?
35 hours per charge.
8:10
What is the price of IKEA's temperature and humidity sensor?
£5.
3:52
What is the main reason Matter is not working well according to the video?
Major companies like Apple, Google, and Amazon have little incentive to make Matter succeed because it would reduce lock-in to their ecosystems.
15:17
How many IKEA products did the creator buy for the investigation?
47.
0:38
Price shock revelation
The stark contrast between £55 Philips Hue and £7 IKEA bulb immediately grabs attention and sets up the investigation.
0:10Business model mystery
The creator's genuine confusion about how IKEA can sell a £5 sensor profitably highlights the absurdity of the pricing.
4:49Remote failure test
The comedic yet frustrating test of pressing the remote 100 times with only 46 successes visually demonstrates the 50% failure rate.
13:39[00:00] This is a Philips Huegh smart bulb and I
[00:02] had to pay £55 to buy one of these here
[00:05] in the UK last week. That made me pretty
[00:07] angry. Then I found out IKEA literally
[00:10] starting this year has decided to become
[00:13] a tech company. They've just had their
[00:15] biggest ever smarthome push and their
[00:17] light bulb is £7. So I bought every
[00:22] single IKEA tech product I could find.
[00:25] No, literally. I bought their new
[00:27] giraffe lamp. I found smart tea lightss.
[00:29] I even discovered a cabinet that
[00:31] secretly opens up into an entire gaming
[00:33] station. Where are you?
[00:38] So, carrying no fewer than 47 IKEA
[00:40] products, I scured back home, desperate
[00:42] to find out how this stuff can actually
[00:44] be as good value as it seems to be. It
[00:47] was not much of a scurry by the end.
[00:50] So, I've only just started setting up
[00:52] these products, obviously prioritizing
[00:54] my new home, the gaming closet. But
[00:56] right now, at least this feels a little
[00:57] bit too good to be true. Like these mad
[00:59] lads made a MagSafe charger for £9. Yes,
[01:03] it's very light and it can wobble. But
[01:04] if you just stick it down, that's insane
[01:07] value. And the lighting. I thought this
[01:09] £7 smart bulb would have some very
[01:11] obvious caveat when I plugged that in.
[01:13] But there's an app. You turn it on and
[01:16] off from your phone. There's a
[01:17] brightness slider to the side and you
[01:18] can choose any color on the spectrum. I
[01:20] have found that Philips does also sell
[01:22] an affordable bulb, but even their
[01:24] absolute cheapest is three times the
[01:26] price of IKEA's. It's the same
[01:28] brightness as IKEA's. Oh, yeah. And it
[01:29] scores an F in energy efficiency
[01:31] compared to a D. And the thing with all
[01:33] this IKEA stuff is it's still based on
[01:35] matter, which is the latest standard in
[01:37] smart homes designed to be kind of like
[01:38] a shared language that lets all types of
[01:41] devices from all different companies
[01:42] play nice with each other. It means that
[01:44] I could say to this Alexa hub, "Alexa,
[01:46] light blue."
[01:50] Okay.
[01:52] Okay, that works. Or I can use a 4B IKEA
[01:57] matter remote. And it's so sick cuz
[02:00] clicking down turns the light on and
[02:02] off. You can scroll this wheel. 7 out of
[02:05] 10 satisfying. But then also press down
[02:07] at the bottom of the remote to switch
[02:09] which group of matter devices that I
[02:11] want to be controlling. The idea being
[02:13] that those devices could be almost
[02:15] anything, even one of these. So, this is
[02:18] the new IKEA color light strip. £13, by
[02:21] the way, compared to the minimum that I
[02:23] can find fillets for, which is 50. But I
[02:25] guess what they've cut to get there is
[02:27] this doesn't directly connect to
[02:29] anything. It's not matter. The only way
[02:31] you typically control it is this button
[02:33] to turn it on and off and this one to
[02:35] change color. But yeah, so what you can
[02:36] do then is connect it up to one of these
[02:38] matter smart plugs, which will then let
[02:41] my Mattera smart remote talk to it. And
[02:44] it has memory. When I turn it on, it's
[02:46] remembering what color it was set to
[02:48] before I turned it off. Am I nerding out
[02:49] over furniture store LEDs? Yes, but the
[02:53] configurability here for the money is
[02:55] like everything I've been searching for.
[02:58] Or so I thought at this point. Things
[03:00] are about to take a dark turn soon. IKEA
[03:02] has also made a bunch of matter sensors.
[03:05] And yes, I've also managed to catch them
[03:07] all. So, there's a 7 lb door sensor
[03:10] which I've stuck inside the gaming
[03:11] cabinet cuz it means every time this
[03:13] door closes, this part of the sensor,
[03:15] which is just a magnet, changes the
[03:17] magnetic field that's picked up by the
[03:19] hall effect sensor in the main body,
[03:21] which then sends a matter signal out to
[03:23] everything here, including all the
[03:25] non-smart stuff like these light strips
[03:27] because of those matter plugs.
[03:30] That was so well timed. And then because
[03:32] it's configurable, I can also get it to
[03:34] like ping me a notification to let me
[03:36] know that the door has been opened or
[03:38] closed. There's a motion sensor, too,
[03:39] which can do the same thing, but in
[03:41] response to, let's say, you walking into
[03:43] the room. And you can do crazy stuff
[03:46] like this. Right here is IKEA's
[03:48] temperature and humidity sensor. £5, by
[03:52] the way. And you could set this so that
[03:53] the moment it picks up that the lights
[03:55] are making this cabinet hot beyond a
[03:57] certain point, they just get switched
[03:59] off. And by the way, this isn't just
[04:01] running matter, the universal language.
[04:03] It's matter, but based on a layer of
[04:04] technology called Thread, which should
[04:07] be better than the more traditional
[04:09] Wi-Fi smart home tech of Bu. Thread
[04:12] essentially means that instead of each
[04:13] of your products needing to communicate
[04:14] with your Wi-Fi router first, they
[04:16] actually just talk directly to each
[04:18] other. And each one acts as its own
[04:20] signal repeater. So, it extends the
[04:22] range way past most routters. And it's a
[04:24] self-healing system. So if one device
[04:26] goes down, another one can just fill in
[04:28] that gap and keep the network going. You
[04:30] do still need a hub, but the cool thing
[04:32] about Thread is that that hub can be any
[04:35] kind of newish smartome product like an
[04:37] Amazon Echo or an Apple TV 4K, things
[04:40] you might already have. To be clear,
[04:42] plenty of companies are already using
[04:43] this combination of matter over thread,
[04:46] just not at this price. I don't actually
[04:49] understand like how is this even a
[04:50] viable business model? This is a £5
[04:53] product. One pound is just tax here in
[04:55] the UK. So IKEA is making4 pound from
[04:58] selling this. How in4 pound are you
[05:00] managing to cover the temperature and
[05:02] humidity sensor itself, the system on a
[05:04] chip required to run the thing, the
[05:06] materials, the display, the assembly,
[05:08] the packaging, the cost of retail, and
[05:10] then somehow still keeping room to make
[05:13] a bit of profit. Okay, I've just gone
[05:16] into a bit of a rabbit hole online and
[05:18] turns out you can actually find the
[05:20] exact sensor that IKEA is using in one
[05:22] of their products, their air quality
[05:24] meter, which they're selling for £25.
[05:26] But it's this look, the Sension Sen 63C.
[05:31] And if you search that up, this one
[05:33] sensor alone is worth like £28. So yeah,
[05:36] obviously IKEA is getting massive bulk
[05:38] discounts on parts, but still this would
[05:40] be a bit like if someone was selling a
[05:42] complete gaming PC for the price that
[05:45] you could also find just like the
[05:47] graphics card inside of it alone. I
[05:49] think IKEA has a particularly strong
[05:51] incentive right now to establish
[05:53] themselves in this space. So, they've
[05:55] chosen to make next to no money at all
[05:57] on this stuff because they know that
[05:59] they're already the home company and if
[06:02] they get this tech transition right,
[06:04] they will also become the smart home
[06:06] company and that could be worth
[06:08] billions. I've just tried some of their
[06:11] bedroom products and this stuff is not
[06:12] matter. It's actually a bit less smart,
[06:14] but it might be even better value than
[06:16] the smart stuff. Like for £150 a pop,
[06:19] we've got things like the cabinet
[06:20] lights. They've got motion sensors
[06:21] inside to pick up when you open doors or
[06:23] drawers. Nice and bright, too. And then
[06:26] the nightlight. You might remember I was
[06:28] absolutely in awe at Xiaomi's motion
[06:30] sensing nightlights. They're £12. The
[06:33] IKEA nightlight is £2. Still seems to
[06:35] work just as well and lasts 6 months on
[06:38] battery apparently. There's an
[06:40] interesting thing I've started to notice
[06:41] with IKEA products.
[06:43] Oh, still works.
[06:46] This company is not really like most
[06:48] tech companies where they come across
[06:50] like they're designing products with one
[06:52] hive mind and each product has the exact
[06:54] same philosophy. Every IKEA product
[06:56] seemingly has its own assigned designer.
[06:59] Maybe it's like whoever came up with the
[07:01] idea for something becomes the lead
[07:03] producer of it, which is probably pretty
[07:04] normal when it comes to furniture, but
[07:06] kind of weird with tech cuz it means
[07:08] that each product functions a bit
[07:10] differently. But then the upside is some
[07:11] of this stuff is so creative. Like look
[07:14] at this really nice weighty glass bowl.
[07:17] This is where you chuck your stuff like
[07:19] your keys, your chewing gum, your micro
[07:23] Game Boy Color
[07:25] for some reason. But then you can stick
[07:27] your phone onto this magnetic park and
[07:29] that's a charger. And then press down.
[07:31] It's a light too. I don't know about
[07:33] you, but I think that's pretty
[07:34] delightful for £15. These speakers are
[07:37] £5 each. I say each because the idea is
[07:39] you just press one button to pair two of
[07:41] them together. And you can do this with
[07:43] up to a hundred of them. You probably
[07:46] shouldn't. They don't sound very good,
[07:48] but you can, and that's kind of fun. Or
[07:52] tea lights. Up until this point, I've
[07:53] only ever used real tea lights, but
[07:55] then, you know, they die after one use.
[07:57] Or ones powered by those little coin
[07:58] cell batteries that are a massive hassle
[08:00] to keep changing out. But IKEA has made
[08:02] a USBC charging station where each
[08:04] telight docks when you're done with it,
[08:06] blinks to confirm that it is charging.
[08:08] And then when charged, IKEA has claimed
[08:10] that they can last 35 hours each. That
[08:13] number sounded crazy to me, so I tested
[08:14] it myself. And uh yeah, they weren't
[08:16] kidding. Teite battery tests. That's
[08:19] where we're at now. What are they
[08:21] sitting on? An IKEA table that is also
[08:24] an air purifier. And credit to David
[08:26] Wall. The thing's so damn efficient.
[08:28] Pull out these clips that lets you take
[08:30] the top off. Then you can see your
[08:31] filter in case you want to change it. A
[08:33] hidden compartment where the power
[08:35] supply hides. Love that. And then the
[08:37] cable wires through the back of the leg.
[08:41] David, can you organize my life, please?
[08:43] Oh, and then my favorite. It's a giraffe
[08:46] lamp. You push the head to turn it on.
[08:49] Gosh. And then it'll turn itself off
[08:51] after 15 minutes. Just enough time for a
[08:54] quick Pokémon Champions. Then you can
[08:55] even take the light off and use it to
[08:57] make sure you can see your way to the
[08:59] bathroom at night. Now, there are some
[09:01] things I can see which partly explain
[09:03] the low prices, like the fact that IKEA
[09:05] seems to refuse to give you batteries
[09:07] unless they absolutely have to. This
[09:08] giraffe takes doubleas's. All of these
[09:10] sensors take AAA's. And I guess that
[09:12] kind of helps IKEA because then they can
[09:14] sell you theirs. And then the charger
[09:16] for those batteries, too. But I think
[09:17] the biggest thing is IKEA's volumes. I
[09:20] actually just cannot wrap my head around
[09:21] the fact that this company has sold over
[09:24] 140 million of this one bookshelf. So
[09:27] IKEA can place enormous orders for parts
[09:29] and get a very good deal doing so. And
[09:32] it actually feels like they specifically
[09:33] reuse those parts in as many different
[09:35] products as possible to maximize those
[09:37] savings. And even more importantly,
[09:39] unlike most companies who make home
[09:41] accessories, who probably sell a few
[09:43] thousand units and want to make big
[09:45] bucks with each one, IKEA does not care.
[09:48] As long as they're making pennies per
[09:50] product, they're still doing fine
[09:52] overall. That's why for years now IKEA
[09:54] has been able to sell things at silly
[09:56] low prices when they want to things like
[09:57] these simple sensors. And I guess now
[10:00] they're seeing it as their chance to
[10:01] start applying that to the smart home
[10:04] now specifically because matter is kind
[10:07] of like the stars aligning for IKEA. You
[10:09] might know that for the last decade, the
[10:11] smart home was basically owned by
[10:13] premium companies like Philips Huegh,
[10:15] Sonos, Google Nest. Because to actually
[10:17] make a smart home that worked needed a
[10:19] ton of initial R&D to create a system
[10:22] and a set of hardware where each thing
[10:24] can talk to each other, you had to be
[10:26] primarily a tech company. So, up until
[10:29] this point, there's been no such thing
[10:31] as the mass market middle ground, where
[10:34] someone goes in to buy a sofa or a
[10:36] cabinet, but then casually adds a smart
[10:38] bulb to their basket just because it's
[10:40] right there at the till. It's been too
[10:41] complicated and priced way too high. But
[10:44] matter is designed to fix that. In
[10:46] theory, it takes away all of that
[10:48] expensive R&D that used to cost
[10:50] billions. All of that will my bulb
[10:52] actually talk to my speaker engineering,
[10:54] that's now baked into the standard
[10:56] itself. So you don't need to be a tech
[10:58] company anymore. You just need to make
[11:00] yourself matter compatible. And no one
[11:02] wins more from this than the company
[11:05] with hundreds of millions of people
[11:06] specifically walking through their doors
[11:08] while in the process of setting up a
[11:10] home. One area where it definitely does
[11:12] pay to go high-end though is the eight
[11:14] sleep bed I'll sponsor
[11:17] which I've been using for over a year at
[11:19] this point instead of the bed that I
[11:21] spent 10 times more money on because I
[11:23] tested them and to my shock/ despair
[11:26] this made me sleep better and it's not
[11:28] even close anymore cuz you know how
[11:29] every single sleep device measures your
[11:31] sleep score with a number right well
[11:33] eight have just upgraded their app with
[11:35] a sleep agent powered by AI that can
[11:37] also tell you why you slept the way you
[11:39] did and then fix it Like the last two
[11:41] weeks, I've been kneede working on an
[11:43] investigation video, and I've been
[11:44] stressed. But this app is not just
[11:46] noticing that and giving me suggestions
[11:48] for how to fix it by itself, but it's
[11:50] also taking matters into its own hands
[11:52] and making 30 different adjustments
[11:54] while I sleep. And with my code boss,
[11:56] you can get $350 off the latest Pod 5.
[11:59] You have 30 days to try it, but I don't
[12:01] think you'll be sending it back.
[12:04] It's falling apart, guys. I know I did
[12:06] the whole spiel about why all this
[12:08] matter stuff should be incredible, but
[12:10] it's been 4 days of living with our IKEA
[12:12] tech and it is not going well. Like this
[12:16] doughnut lamp, which by the way on its
[12:19] own is already kind of disappointing cuz
[12:21] it's the exact same tech as that £7
[12:23] smart bulb. Same app, same features, but
[12:26] just now because it's in a mouth blown
[12:28] glass container, it's £55. It doesn't
[12:31] even have zone lighting or the ability
[12:32] to do gradients. But more importantly,
[12:35] how is the connection process this
[12:37] terrible? We've been going through loop
[12:39] after loop of discovery trying to find
[12:41] the thing. And after seven failed
[12:42] attempts, it randomly works on the
[12:44] eighth, even though we've changed
[12:46] nothing. Some of the bulbs have the same
[12:47] thing. Like, we put six of them in this
[12:49] column light over here. Bought them all
[12:51] the same day. Five worked perfectly. One
[12:54] just would not connect. It tries to find
[12:56] it for two full minutes and then just
[12:58] says unable to add accessory. I've
[12:59] noticed sometimes the QR code on the box
[13:02] lets you add these products onto your
[13:03] network. Other times it does not. And
[13:05] then the only thing that seems to work
[13:06] when that happens is resetting the hub
[13:09] and then manually entering the unique
[13:11] device numbers that you can find on the
[13:12] products. And while I've been dealing
[13:13] with that, some of the lights that
[13:15] originally set up fine have now started
[13:17] showing that they're offline when
[13:19] they're clearly on. My precious matter
[13:21] remote has gone super laggy sometimes.
[13:28] That should have turned it off. Didn't
[13:34] like here. What's the matter?
[13:35] >> Do you want to press it 100 times and
[13:37] see what the success rate is?
[13:39] >> Oh my god. I don't want to. One.
[13:45] This is content.
[13:49] No.
[13:52] No. Yes.
[13:57] How much longer do we have of this?
[14:07] 46 successes.
[14:10] Oh dear. Still, you know, you see that
[14:12] and then you think maybe it's just me.
[14:15] Then I looked online. Reddit is full of
[14:18] I bought IKEA's Matter products. Nothing
[14:21] will connect. There's some positive
[14:22] reviews on the IKEA site, but then
[14:24] nearly as many one stars with pretty
[14:26] much each person talking through
[14:28] everything they've done to try and get
[14:29] this stuff to work and then how it still
[14:32] doesn't. I even found someone who's
[14:33] tried to pair 59 of these matter remotes
[14:36] and they've only managed to successfully
[14:38] pair 29. They've got this 11step
[14:41] troubleshooting technique they followed
[14:42] and according to them, it fixed nothing.
[14:45] So, they're estimating a 50% defect
[14:48] rate, which kind of horrifyingly lines
[14:52] up with the near 50% negative reviews on
[14:55] their site
[14:57] and the 50% success rate of the remote.
[15:01] I mean, regardless of which way you look
[15:03] at it, it's completely unheard of. What
[15:04] if your car only started 50% of the
[15:07] time? The more I look into this, the
[15:09] more it feels like ultimately matter is
[15:11] just not ready. It could be, and it
[15:13] should be the solution. And one day it
[15:15] still might be. But it seems like the
[15:17] main companies who built matter, Apple,
[15:19] Google, Amazon, etc., they invested in
[15:21] it because it would help to promote the
[15:23] idea that anyone could have a smart
[15:24] home. But individually, none of them
[15:27] actually has an incentive for it to
[15:29] succeed. If matter becomes a viable
[15:31] mainstream smart home solution, then
[15:34] who's going to pay three times the price
[15:35] for a Google Nest branded doorbell? How
[15:38] will Amazon make sure that you also
[15:39] subscribe to Prime and do all of your
[15:41] shopping on Amazon.com? Matter will
[15:44] basically open up the gates for
[15:45] companies like IKEA to whip up something
[15:47] for a Fiverr that works just as well and
[15:49] that's not going to lock you into any
[15:51] company's ecosystem. You'll notice as
[15:53] well if you pay close attention that
[15:54] Samsung has actually been really great
[15:57] with all this matter stuff. Their Smart
[15:59] Things is usually among the first
[16:00] platforms to support each new Mattera
[16:02] version, often within a few months of
[16:04] release. But Apple, Google, Amazon,
[16:06] sometimes we're talking a year behind
[16:08] for the same updates. And that's
[16:10] probably not random. Samsung is the most
[16:12] aggressive because Samsung has the least
[16:14] to protect. They don't have the dominant
[16:17] voice assistant or the dominant phone
[16:20] ecosystem. So, an open standard like
[16:22] Matter has a lot of upsides for them.
[16:24] They make tons of stuff like fridges,
[16:26] washers, and ovens. All matter is going
[16:28] to do is help those products work better
[16:30] in other companies systems. It's really
[16:32] those companies, the ones who make those
[16:34] systems like Amazon, who have the most
[16:36] to lose and so are the most reluctantly
[16:38] trudging towards actually making matter
[16:40] good. and instead focusing their efforts
[16:42] on trying to ensure that the best
[16:44] experience with their products comes
[16:45] when you use all of them and you do so
[16:47] via their app. And it feels like all of
[16:49] this politics has left IKEA a little bit
[16:53] stuck. They clearly saw the potential of
[16:55] matter. They dived head first into it,
[16:57] but it's just not ready yet. And while
[16:59] IKEA are not the only ones supporting
[17:01] matter, the difference is that IKEA's
[17:03] products depend on matter because they
[17:05] don't have their own robust ecosystem to
[17:08] fall back on. So, for the sake of making
[17:10] this smartarthome dream accessible to
[17:12] the masses, I really hope IKEA can get
[17:14] over this incredibly bumpy start. But
[17:18] I'm not holding my breath.
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