Why Are These WoW Streamers Suddenly Visiting Blizzard?!
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The video discusses speculation that Blizzard invited prominent WoW Classic streamers to test a potential 'Classic Plus' mode. The streamers visited Blizzard campus, fueling rumors about a new version of Classic that expands on vanilla WoW without progressing beyond level 60.
Streamers like Zaryu, Esfand, Guzu, Savix, and Sodapoppin visited Blizzard campus, sparking speculation about Classic Plus.
Esfand summarized his Classic Plus wish list, suggesting an extension of vanilla WoW without level progression beyond 60, possibly with the Dark Portal never opening.
Many players want new content within the vanilla setting, such as Karazhan Crypts, Scarlet Enclave raid, Grim Batol, and other unused zones.
The video speculates that Blizzard might reveal Classic Plus at BlizzCon later this year.
The discussion includes debate over streamers' impact, with some arguing they helped make Classic happen, while others criticize their influence.
The speaker suggests Classic Plus should start from the Burning Crusade pre-patch, but without opening the Dark Portal, and should avoid new classes or races like murlocs.
The speaker worries that Classic Plus could lose its soul if optimized too much, similar to retail WoW.
The speaker names Chris Metzen, Jeff Kaplan, Tom Chilton, Rob Pardo, Allen Adham, and Kevin Jordan as the few who truly understand WoW's essence.
A speculative idea is presented: Classic Plus could be set in an earlier timeline, with ruins of Stormwind and no undead, starting during Warcraft 1.
The video concludes that while Classic Plus is speculative, the community's excitement suggests a strong desire for a new, well-designed version of Classic that retains its original soul.
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Download .txt[00:02] I think this is worth looking at because it's kind of it's very speculative, but it's really, really interesting to think about. So, did Blizzard invite streamers to test Classic Plus last week? Last week, while
[00:15] that he would be visiting Blizzard While Zaryu was unable to say why he was invited to visit, many in the community began to speculate that this could be related to the mysterious next chapter
[00:28] for Wow, known by the community as Classic Plus. Wow, okay. So, hold on, what did he what did he say? I did just get approval to say that I will be gone a little bit next week, bad news, because I am
[00:42] visiting Blizzard next week. >> What? >> Good news. For something that I cannot say, but I will be there. And I just got permission to say that.
[00:56] What? I can't say what it's for, but I will be visiting Blizzard. >> Next week. I mean, but this could mean this could mean like a million things. As the week continued on, other prominent Wow Classic content creators
[01:11] began to show up at Blizzard campus in Southern California as well, including Esfand, Guzu, Savix, and Sodapoppin. Who are these guys? Had a great time at Blizzard campus. Okay. Okay. Uh while none of the streamers have
[01:23] Blizzard campus, all these content creators have heavy involvement in the what they would like to see in a future version of Wow Classic. But what exactly is Classic Plus? Well, there's much debate over what the future game could
[01:35] be. Esfand recently summarized his Classic Plus wish list. While opinions Classic Plus should be an extension of the vanilla Wow world where characters do not progress beyond level 60 and maybe the Dark Portal never even opens.
[01:47] Many cite the Burning Crusade pre-patch as a great starting point with access to new spells and talents that help balance the specializations. Yeah, I I like I think this is actually pretty much exactly how I feel. Burning Crusade
[01:59] dark portal never opens. I mean, this is something that I've been saying for a guys even talked about or I don't know what don't even know why these guys were invited to be honest. But, like, to me,
[02:12] I think this is this is it's definitely concerning. Because who are these people? Like, why did they invite them? I think weird that they invited them. "Season of Discovery was a great experimental
[02:24] project and many players agree that the rune system went too far and the seasonal game mode was a little too different from the original classic. would agree with this, yeah. What many players do agree on is the expansion of
[02:39] content that saw it provided. Karazhan Crypts and Scarlet Enclave raid. There's so many other pieces of content that could exist within the vanilla setting, Grim Batol, Dalaran, Twilight Highlands, Timeless Isle, Karazhan. The list goes
[02:53] exist in a vanilla setting is staggering. That's why many content creators and members of the community believe that a future version of classic on the way. Really? Could Blizzard be planning to
[03:07] reveal this new forever classic game mode at BlizzCon later this year? Only time will tell." I mean, I don't necessarily know if a classic plus would content creators were invited to Blizzard campus last week? Do you think
[03:21] classic plus or could it be something else? I mean, I think this is kind of right? Like, it's just kind of this Personally, I I I don't really care for or really know any of these people. Um and it's like,
[03:34] why would you invite them? Uh streamers ruin everything they touch. And I I Let me I'm I haven't thought of a reason as to why I hate streamers so much yet, but really think it was stupid that Blizzard did this. Uh and I hate Blizzard and I
[03:50] hate streamers as well. But, why do you guys think they invited them? >> Is that Blizzard going to save on testing? More like turtle minus. testing? More like turtle minus. >> [laughter]
[04:05] insane. Blizzard needs to stop giving streamers the time of day as does anyone following them. Says the person paying for wild head. for wild head. >> [laughter]
[04:24] people are just so angry and jealous. Yeah, still blows my mind that people give their hard earned money to these dudes. Just Lamau. Honey, I'm sending Svan $100 a month. He definitely needs it more than we Wait, WHY ME?
[04:37] >> [laughter] >> IT MAKES THESE PEOPLE so mad. How would you get this angry? But it's You know what's the funniest thing about funniest thing about this article. Literally nobody knows or says anything
[04:50] about any about having anything to do with classic plus. with classic plus. >> [laughter] >> The only things Jews are good for is muting, putting on in the background for
[05:02] hours. You got to twitch route. Streamers literally made classic happen. Streamers were the push that made classic happen. [laughter] over and they spent their entire lives playing.
[05:16] I hate these streamers. Slipped up with how NDAs are I can guarantee you they leaks anything or said it by accident, it's marketing stunt carefully planned. to make a sneak >> [laughter]
[05:28] [gasps] >> Dude People will always do this thing too where they'll say this or they'll say that and be like, oh oh Savix said it on his stream. Savix
[05:42] said it you can talk about it. But that's >> [laughter] >> These are exactly people I don't want fastest way to ruin it before it launches. Most streamers have no idea
[05:56] gold is a simple example. Please keep these people away from this moment of these people away from this moment of the game. Dude, it's crazy. Cuz like it these people have no idea how bad classic 2019 would have been. Fact, all
[06:09] streamers that were anti-streamer died. That's actually true. All the anti-streamer servers in 2019 died. Remember that? Streamers are just going true. That's not true. People always say that, but it's just not true. It
[06:22] depends. Different streamers play differently, right? Some streamers are differently, right? Some streamers are bad streamers like myself and we like even though we you should move on and go stream something else. 100%. I
[06:35] absolutely agree. But some of those streamers that are bad like myself, they when they should have quit it like 6 years ago. Okay? But I for some reason can't help myself because I'm stupid. We play classic plus if it's not based on
[06:50] TBC. I mean, I think classic plus I think the starting point point of the design needs to be the Burning Crusade pre-patch, but I think it should be playing wow for a long time. I stopped playing Well, here's the
[07:03] Crusade and vanilla. So my version of wow didn't really exist and I and I didn't really have anything I wanted to do in vanilla again. But I it's like I just don't play the other versions cuz I just don't like them. Do
[07:18] they should do any new classes, no. I think as far as new races go, I think high elves and ogres. I just think high elves and ogres are the play. I don't I staying as a neutral race. I don't like murloc. I think murlocs are too stupid.
[07:33] What the I worry classic plus will never land up in the same spot as retail if they have the same monetary focus as retail. I think that, but also like the game needs soul, man. The game needs
[07:46] soul. I think what happens whenever whenever a game goes on for too long, people kind of optimize the soul out of it. And you see this with everything. see this with the devs, you see this with everything about this game and
[07:59] everything about MMOs. I I truly believe this. I think I think there's four people, basically. I think the people that truly understand what WoW is at its mean, I don't want to limit it to these
[08:12] them, okay? I would say there's a handful of people that truly understand what WoW classic really is and what what World of Warcraft right? And I emphasis World of Warcraft right? And I emphasis on World of Warcraft really is. From a
[08:27] gameplay perspective. I mean, obviously Chris Metzen is Chris Met- Chris Metzen about what it is from like a the game design perspective. It's a handful of people that really get it. Jeff Kaplan, Tom
[08:40] that really get it. Jeff Kaplan, Tom Chilton, Rob Pardo, Allen Adham, and Kevin Jordan. I would say that handful of people who really really really get it. If you didn't say Kevin Jordan, I was going to
[08:52] wrong, right? I have a lot of respect for a lot of these other people. Like I I've talked to a lot of these people and like people that are cur- But I'm so- WoW when it first started. That's why whenever I've had the chan- Like I I I
[09:06] Chilton or Rob Pardo, but I've gotten to talk extensively with a lot of these people. Like Like Jeff Kaplan is dude, talking to somebody like a Jeff Kaplan or Kevin Jordan is is such a joy. Like it's like you you feel like when you're
[09:21] talking to them, you can't help but turn into a sponge because everything they say when they're talking about game design or when they're talking about WoW have to listen and you have to you you
[09:35] guys are saying, like you have to learn from it. I feel so lucky to get to talk to some of these guys. Now, with that being said, there's some people that are one because nobody's going to nobody's going to believe me or agree with me, so
[09:49] there's no point in saying it. >> [laughter] there that I'm I'm like this happens to a lot of people where like
[10:05] Okay. But then like then I've talked to him of the things that I say and I like I very strongly believe about wow and the things. I was going to say there's one
[10:19] chance to talk to and I was like it's almost like it's funny because he said a lot of the things that I agree with. Even like like kind of some like crazy people talking about. He's like repeated these things to me and I'm like, "Huh?"
[10:35] What? And it like is a kind of surprising, but maybe someday maybe we start at level one in Eastern Plaguelands to level 16 in the original another really interesting thing to talk about? And maybe I'll save this for
[10:49] another video. I'll tease it once I have my thoughts gathered a little bit better. Well, when do the events of World of Warcraft happen? Is it 10 years after Warcraft 3? Five years after? I'm trying to see. So,
[11:03] you have the first war, the second war, and the third war. Then World of Warcraft Oh. Okay, World of Warcraft happens in year 617 by the King's calendar. Okay. So, World of Warcraft happens 5 years
[11:16] after Warcraft 3 in the timeline. What if it was 1 year? Well, I guess 1 year after is the Battle of Mount Hyjal. 1 year after that is the Frozen Throne. What Warcraft was it that Stormwind got
[11:30] destroyed? Was it Warcraft 1? Dude, imagine if they made classic plus imagine if they made classic plus ruins of Stormwind. Stormwind is gone and you have the ruins of Stormwind. And classic plus was actually classic minus
[11:44] classic plus was actually classic minus and they went back in time. That would be insane. And the instead of having Stormwind
[12:00] Anduin Wrynn King Arthas Menethil of Lordaeron. King Arthas Menethil of Lordaeron. Holy cinema. And there's no undead. Holy cinema. And there's no undead. There's no undead for the Horde. They
[12:15] don't exist yet. Uther lives. Absolute cinema. Where World of Warcraft actually instead of it being way after Warcraft 1 and 2 it's actually starts where Warcraft 1 is.
[12:33] King can't exist. What if a Lich King No, there there will already been told, but what if it was told as an MMO? That would be crazy. worried that Gordon Ramsay is going to do a Kitchen Nightmares episodes on him.
[12:50] >> All right, [clears throat] whatever. All right, I'm just I'm just I'm just But anyway, everybody's idea for a classic plus is pretty much the same lot of it that's why like there's not like a huge degree of creativity. It's
[13:04] just what version of that like the turtle wow kind of kind of blueprint, you know, oh, open up Hyjal, oldum, caverns of time, this, that, whatever, there. Everybody obviously wants that and I think it's it's a less about the
[13:17] they going to implement these things within the game in a way that fits, that within the game in a way that fits, that it feels like classic and in a way that is just good. Is it good? At the end of the day. Is it classic? Is
[13:32] it? We'll see. Anyway, we talk about a lot lot of different games, a lot of different gaming news. I did start streaming kind of content creation kind of began with classic wow and all this
[13:45] stuff and way before classic actually came out. I was a big private server guy. Got banned and was was one of the guys kind of leading the charge for kind of cool to see where we are now like 8 9 years later. I hope you guys
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