Why Lap Times Are Useless
39sChallenges the common car benchmarking obsession, sparking debate among enthusiasts about what really matters in a car.
▶ Play ClipIn this 3-hour+ livestream, the hosts of Savage Geese (Mark and Jack) host an informal Q&A and podcast-style discussion about cars, comparing models like the Supra, Z, GR86, and Mazda3, and exploring controversial topics like the relevance of lap times, dealership models, and the emotional divide in online car culture. They also share personal stories, industry insights, and answer dozens of viewer questions.
They discuss a comparison test of affordable 'poverty cars' like the Mazda3, noting it was designed as a faux-luxury car, not a hot hatch, and that lap times depend heavily on conditions (temperature, track rubber). They argue that lap times are less important than how a car feels to drive.
They announce a comparison test between the Toyota Supra, Nissan Z, and modified GR86 on real tires to see if a modified GR86 can keep up with the two more powerful cars, emphasizing it's more of a show than a definitive test.
They plan a comparison between the Integra and Mazda3, both Japanese pseudo-luxury cars, to give ungarnished thoughts after time has passed. They note the Mazda3 Turbo AWD doesn't come with a manual, and discuss OEM trends of putting manuals only on top trims.
They discuss how enthusiasm for cars is decaying due to rising prices, supply chain issues, and long wait times. They also mention the difficulty of even journalists buying desired cars (like GR Corolla) at fair prices.
Jack talks about his experience with a Sienna minivan, highlighting its fuel economy (almost 40 mpg) and stealthy, npc-like presence on the road, which he finds both amusing and practical.
Mark notes that GM's engineering support has been excellent, with engineers willing to talk about why and how they did things, though the end products vary. He specifically praises the Lyriq and Escalade V.
They criticize the car dealer model, noting it may take years to change due to state protections, but that OEMs see value in controlling pricing and profit streams directly. They discuss subscription services and the potential for lower transaction prices.
Mark explains why he prefers the Scat Pack over the Stinger: it has a V8, ZF transmission, double-wishbone suspension, and is a 'honest' muscle car, whereas the Stinger is 'hyper confused' about trying to be a German luxury car.
They answer a viewer question comparing the C8 Corvette to the GR86, emphasizing that the C8 is better value if speed and sophistication matter, but the GR86 is more engaging for track driving and costs half as much.
They recommend the GV70 or X3 for larger drivers seeking a luxury compact SUV under $55K, noting that the Lexus RX is being refreshed and the RDX is too old.
Mark breaks GM into three levels: the truck team (unlimited resources), the sports car team (making amazing cars like ZL1, Corvette), and the 'shitbox' team (Blazer, Equinox, Encore) where young engineers cut their teeth.
They discuss that automatics have gotten so good that in some cases they are preferable, but manuals are becoming a long-term investment because they are rare and easier to sell. They note that certain cars (like the GT3) are so good that the gearbox doesn't matter.
They define good steering feel as the car communicating grip levels through the wheel—a load up as grip builds, then a subtle vibration as it breaks away. They contrast modern EPS (even good ones) with hydraulic racks found in older cars like the NSX.
They opine that Tesla needs to put Elon out to pasture as he gets in the way of growth, and that competition from legacy OEMs (like GM's Super Cruise) will soon catch up, potentially trouble Tesla's dominance.
They note that manufacturers are making strides in reducing cobalt and achieving 100% recyclability (citing GM's Lyriq), but the supply chain is still complex and proprietary, making it hard to assess full environmental impact.
The live stream offers a raw, unfiltered look at the hosts' opinions on modern car culture, technical details, and market trends, blending humor with genuine automotive insight. It reinforces the idea that while specs and lap times matter, the emotional connection to a car is what truly defines its worth.
"The title 'You Can Never Win' is vague and not descriptive of the content; the video is a casual Q&A/podcast, not about a specific race or competition, so it's mostly misleading."
According to the hosts, why are lap times not always reliable for comparing cars?
Because they depend heavily on conditions like temperature, track rubber, and the specific day of testing; not all variables are controlled.
03:48
What upcoming comparison test are they planning that includes the Supra and Z?
A comparison test between the Toyota Supra, Nissan Z, and a modified GR86 on real tires.
03:00
What is Mark's criticism of the Kia Stinger compared to the Dodge Challenger Scat Pack?
The Stinger is hyper confused about trying to be a German luxury car, whereas the Scat Pack is an honest muscle car with a V8, ZF transmission, and double-wishbone suspension.
26:44
According to the hosts, what is the best aftermarket warranty for used cars?
Fidelity warranty.
47:39
What is the definition of good steering feel according to the hosts?
The car communicating grip levels through the wheel—a load up as grip builds, then a subtle vibration as it breaks away.
57:50
What three divisions exist within GM according to the hosts?
The truck team (unlimited resources), the sports car team (making amazing cars like ZL1, Corvette), and the 'shitbox' team (Blazer, Equinox, Encore).
52:49
Why do they say the Sienna is a good car despite being slow?
Because it gets almost 40 mpg, is completely usable, and makes you disappear like an NPC on the road.
16:56
Lap Time Caveats
Explains a core philosophy of the channel: lap times are not absolute and driver feel matters more.
03:48Stinger vs Scat Pack Honesty
Illustrates how marketing can ruin a car's perception versus being true to its heritage.
26:44Steering Feel Definition
Technical explanation that helps viewers understand what auto journalists mean by 'steering feel'.
57:50Car Enthusiasm Decay
Honest take on the current state of the car market and how it affects enthusiasts.
11:22Tesla's Future
Critical opinion on Elon Musk's leadership and Tesla's competitive position.
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[01:04] all right so what do you want to talk
[01:05] about well so today's live stream is
[01:08] going to be treated like a traditional q
[01:10] a of course okay uh because people like
[01:12] that but i also want to bring up some
[01:14] topics in between
[01:16] so this can feel more like a podcast
[01:18] that it's actually starting to turn into
[01:20] where we talk to you about nothing for
[01:23] four hours in this case three hours
[01:25] because we are going to do a
[01:27] hard cut off at 10 pm central central
[01:29] time yes uh so cdt isn't it technically
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[01:34] to cdt and the next time change it's
[01:36] very confusing perfect well so much for
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[01:40] nobody cares about time zones uh the
[01:43] what was the thing i was gonna tell you
[01:45] about that uh oh yes dj shrimp scampi
[01:48] couldn't be here today he had to pull a
[01:50] double at red lobster this week
[01:52] i mean nobody wants to work and i don't
[01:54] get it the cheddar biscuits are and you
[01:58] stood me up for a admiral's
[02:00] feast instead of going to the track with
[02:02] me where you could spend some time with
[02:03] a pro driver you were just like brit
[02:06] britt's got too much testosterone for me
[02:08] i got i gotta cool down with some
[02:10] lobster
[02:11] yeah this guy's like oh you want to
[02:12] drive a gr86 on the track i'm like yeah
[02:14] i think i'll just rather go to red
[02:16] lobster
[02:18] um so let's get into before we start
[02:20] that let's talk about some car stuff
[02:23] okay um
[02:24] because that's what people uh enjoy
[02:27] and uh so we got i got a whole list here
[02:30] oh wow
[02:31] i got a lot to talk about
[02:33] we did our comparison test which we
[02:36] somewhat talked about uh with the all
[02:38] the affordable poverty cars and one of
[02:41] the big questions was why do you didn't
[02:42] include mazda 3
[02:44] hatch
[02:45] and that's something that we are going
[02:47] to cover in
[02:49] the next video comparison that we're
[02:51] doing we have a couple comparisons
[02:52] coming that you guys uh clearly seem to
[02:55] like we're doing
[02:57] like every everyone in the world is
[02:58] doing this comparison test but it's uh
[03:00] supra
[03:02] and z
[03:03] with gr86 thrown in there to show you
[03:05] whether or not a modified gr86 can keep
[03:08] up
[03:09] with two cars
[03:11] with real tires we're putting both the
[03:13] supra and the z on real tires yeah and
[03:16] we're not going to talk about that but
[03:17] we're trying to neutralize some of this
[03:18] yeah and you already know that the gr86
[03:20] is going to be slower but i mean it it's
[03:23] just a show really between jack
[03:25] myself and brit casey who obviously is a
[03:28] professional driver we're going to show
[03:30] that and kind of what you expect and i
[03:32] think some of these comparisons like
[03:34] people ask well what about the lap time
[03:36] board and
[03:38] to be completely fair nobody cares about
[03:40] lab times especially on a track nobody's
[03:42] ever driven on there's no real benchmark
[03:45] of to saying okay this car's fast on
[03:46] this track and
[03:48] truth is that somebody could be fast on
[03:50] this track and then the car could be
[03:51] faster on another track that's more of a
[03:52] club circuit the other thing that we
[03:54] found when we did our testing we had the
[03:55] s2000 gr86 and i can't remember i think
[03:58] the elantra and out that day it was
[04:00] really cold it was cold and windy and it
[04:03] was the first time that i'm like holy
[04:05] these cars
[04:06] it wasn't just a little bit fast it was
[04:08] noticeably faster and the pavement
[04:09] wasn't rubbered in on the other tracks
[04:11] so we're losing a lot of grip so this is
[04:13] the point when you see lap times you can
[04:15] almost take them as a grain of salt
[04:17] unless you have somebody that is taking
[04:19] like 20 cars at once taking them out the
[04:22] same day like within the same hour where
[04:24] the sun is if the you know all that crap
[04:26] that's that's the only way lap times are
[04:27] typically accurate and i don't i used to
[04:30] put a lot more weight on that and now i
[04:31] put a far less weight on because it's
[04:34] more about how the car feels
[04:36] what the car is doing and what it's not
[04:38] doing that's important and i think
[04:39] that's going to be more of our
[04:41] focus going forward the mazda3 thing so
[04:44] watch your original video on the mazda3
[04:46] all-wheel drive turbo
[04:48] the car is not a hot hatchback i don't
[04:51] care what anyone says it has a torsion
[04:52] being rear end when you talk to the
[04:54] mazda engineers it was designed as a
[04:57] faux luxury car not once did they
[04:59] mention golf r gti
[05:02] i don't really think you launch around
[05:04] you launch ran
[05:05] the lunchroom wasn't even a velociraptor
[05:07] yeah none of those cars were out back
[05:09] then or sorry or even
[05:12] like benched luxury right right yeah so
[05:14] that's that's all one thing we can put
[05:16] it out here which we'll probably talk
[05:17] about in the video but that really
[05:19] changes your your perspective how can
[05:21] you compare it knowing that their car
[05:23] was never designed to be that fun car
[05:26] anymore yeah it's it's fast
[05:28] it's quick it's supposed to be like that
[05:30] everyday driver with refinement a little
[05:32] bit of enjoyment to drive um but you
[05:34] know what i'll counter that and say when
[05:36] you look at the integra of the civics
[05:38] and all these affordable cars they've
[05:39] become almost to the point where they're
[05:42] all over refined too i mean they're
[05:43] really refined compared to like the old
[05:45] boxes we used to love we're gonna
[05:47] be doing a video
[05:48] with the crx yes like two crx's and i
[05:52] told jack i'm like when we get this crx
[05:54] race car on track
[05:56] i'm almost i i would put money on it
[05:58] that it'll be the best car you've ever
[06:00] driven on that's like the formula cars
[06:02] yeah outside of like you know real race
[06:03] cars of course but street cars turn race
[06:06] car um and it's because those cars of
[06:08] the past were just so connected they
[06:11] they talked to you in every way that
[06:12] they possibly can
[06:14] um the byproduct was that car this was a
[06:16] best-case scenario yeah scott that
[06:18] that's true yeah yeah okay scott
[06:21] building probably
[06:22] one of the most dominant uh crx's in
[06:25] existence and racing in existence in
[06:27] racing here in the us yeah but the car
[06:29] was notoriously good but i'm just saying
[06:31] like that's a great example of the like
[06:33] long long ago approach of like having
[06:36] connectivity and that car was actually
[06:37] refined back in the day too that was
[06:39] like a big step forward but now
[06:42] we've we've gone to these new cars where
[06:44] they have to do
[06:45] like they have literally have to do
[06:47] everything and you're like you're
[06:48] driving like man this is great to drive
[06:50] me like god am i bored driving
[06:51] this thing you know so any anyway it's
[06:54] really hard
[06:55] um it's really hard to explain this to
[06:58] to people watching where they can kind
[07:00] of get a good taste for what these
[07:02] things are really like um and lap times
[07:04] again back to that point lap times do
[07:05] not tell you anything about any of that
[07:08] like literally well that's the problem
[07:10] with the internet though right people
[07:12] only care about bench racing like you
[07:14] have the gt3 rs that's coming out yeah
[07:16] that we will not be at the european
[07:17] launch but we will be at the u.s
[07:19] re-launch or whatever that that car uh
[07:22] whatever they're doing with that car
[07:23] here in the u.s but all anyone seems to
[07:25] care about with that vehicle is
[07:27] how it does around the ring what ring
[07:29] time it isn't yes for a car like that
[07:31] that's important but
[07:32] what i'm more interested in finding on
[07:34] this how does it sound and how does it
[07:36] improve on the regular gt3 and that's
[07:39] again that's not what anyone's going to
[07:40] be talking about right we're just going
[07:41] to talk about the lap time the same
[07:42] thing goes for the c806 when they do
[07:45] release a ring time on that that's all
[07:46] people are going to hear yep that that's
[07:48] true but i mean that's how else do
[07:49] normal like if you don't get to drive
[07:51] all these cars
[07:53] what's the easiest way you can tell a
[07:55] car is better than another one right
[07:57] from like a performance car perspective
[07:58] that's why like car and driver and all
[08:00] those were so dominant they focused on
[08:03] all these like static objective
[08:05] measurements
[08:06] um
[08:07] and that's how people got used to
[08:09] judging them and now like some of the
[08:11] trend is like what cars faster than a
[08:13] drag race which again is
[08:15] i guess there's some merit in it in a
[08:17] straight line you just read the spec
[08:18] sheet to find out pretty pretty much and
[08:20] that's why i said like we're going to do
[08:21] the gr 86 versus like a supra it's like
[08:23] there's no doubt you don't even have to
[08:26] do you know you don't even have to read
[08:27] anything to know that
[08:29] the the super is going to annihilate
[08:31] that car in any condition the question
[08:33] is is it in and that was the s2000
[08:35] argument like that's 2000 maybe slower
[08:38] but you're feeling a lot driving it so
[08:40] even though it's not as fast you're
[08:42] feeling like you're driving it you feel
[08:43] like it's faster because it's so
[08:45] engaging and that's that's where you
[08:47] can't judge cars uh object or
[08:50] subjectively and objectively anymore
[08:52] through any type of measured testing
[08:54] because those lines are no they're so
[08:56] blurred now
[08:57] the other comparison test we will be
[08:59] doing speaking of integra is integra
[09:01] mazda3 i feel like that's a pretty apt
[09:03] one they're both japanese pseudo luxury
[09:05] cars and we get to actually talk about
[09:08] our like our our ungarnished thoughts
[09:10] now that time has passed yeah integra
[09:12] and revisit the mazda3 they are very
[09:14] similarly priced but the one thing i
[09:16] will bring up is mazda 3 turbo all-wheel
[09:18] drive which is about 35 000 as a hatch
[09:21] or 36 does not come as a manual right
[09:24] yeah which this is another topic all
[09:26] together like what is it with the car
[09:27] manufacturers
[09:29] releasing enthusiast cars
[09:31] and putting manuals on only the top trim
[09:33] like is this like did did you get an
[09:35] explanation as to why so with ilx if i
[09:38] understand correctly i'm sure the
[09:39] comments will
[09:40] correct me if i'm wrong
[09:42] um the ilx the prior gen only the
[09:45] poverty trim level the cheapest model
[09:47] got the manual and people were upset so
[09:49] they're like all right you guys
[09:50] we'll we'll put it only on the expensive
[09:52] one i just think from an oem's
[09:54] perspective they can't win
[09:56] and i think they're just assuming that
[09:58] someone who wants to buy an integra
[10:00] who's already an enthusiast will just
[10:02] cough up the extra money for the manual
[10:04] i don't necessarily agree with it but
[10:06] i'm sure from a product planning
[10:07] perspective
[10:08] no one's gonna buy that car anyway once
[10:10] the original enthusiasts are done buying
[10:12] the manual batches they'll all go cvt
[10:14] i'm sure the manufacturing costs of
[10:16] having multiple trim levels with
[10:19] multiple different transmissions they
[10:20] just don't want to deal with and
[10:21] probably well didn't right now is
[10:23] different than historically right so you
[10:24] have a finite amount of production
[10:26] capacity that you can actually build
[10:28] cars and where
[10:30] is the margin right like where are they
[10:31] gonna make the most money of course uh
[10:34] on putting that manual transmission
[10:35] somewhere and how many can they actually
[10:37] build so dealerships are probably like
[10:39] just get us cars so like okay well we
[10:41] can crap out x amount of cars but trying
[10:43] to put a manual transmission in every
[10:45] trim level at this point
[10:47] is very very difficult to do and i
[10:49] understand that with the z2 they had
[10:51] limited capacity gr86 that video you
[10:54] just did about the long-term thing with
[10:56] the gre6 there there's comments on there
[10:58] like in europe we haven't had we haven't
[10:59] even had one delivery of that car yet
[11:02] that's how far behind they are so i
[11:03] think they're being very cautious about
[11:06] not over spreading yeah like trying to
[11:08] over uh well you know what i mean
[11:11] i mean that's the reality of some of
[11:12] these cars that they are putting manual
[11:14] gearboxes in like the gr supra you can
[11:16] forget about trying to get one
[11:18] of those cars yeah i'm sure it's the
[11:19] first year it'll be impossible yeah and
[11:21] that's the disappointment of this i
[11:22] think and you see
[11:24] doing the video stuff and you get to see
[11:26] comments you get to talk to people about
[11:28] it just like enthusiasm
[11:30] has gotten so
[11:32] um
[11:33] the enthusiasm for cars is like decaying
[11:35] it's like a cancer because
[11:38] price obviously is one huge one right
[11:40] huge it's just a really ridiculous and
[11:42] then the fact that the you can't get
[11:44] things which really puts a damper on if
[11:47] you're working hard and you want
[11:48] something and you want it like now now
[11:50] is like six months for a regular car
[11:53] that is that's infuriating and it just
[11:55] takes the air out of the room for the
[11:56] whole like enthusiast marketplace and
[11:59] cars in general it's not just enthusiast
[12:00] cars like if i wanted to go buy a rav4
[12:03] like a rav4 hybrid right yeah you can
[12:04] forget about it i mean yeah i mean it's
[12:06] just it sucks
[12:08] and i mean i get it from all sides even
[12:10] from like the uh
[12:12] it's bad for
[12:14] some journalists like us you know we're
[12:16] lucky and that some of the oems will
[12:17] offer us cars or not it not for free but
[12:20] hey you do want to buy one of these even
[12:22] then
[12:22] like the the gr corolla i'm desperately
[12:26] trying to get one to do another
[12:27] long-term series for you guys because i
[12:29] imagine that's a car that people are
[12:30] excited about and i'm genuinely excited
[12:32] to buy one they're like good luck
[12:34] right well and that's the same thing we
[12:36] we have this conversation and i'm in the
[12:38] process
[12:39] uh i don't want to get into the personal
[12:41] side of it but i'm in the process of
[12:42] going to be moving to a new place in the
[12:45] next like three weeks and you're moving
[12:47] as well and i'm like i'm looking at
[12:49] money i'm looking at the numbers for the
[12:50] year and i'm looking at how everything
[12:52] is like
[12:53] you know i mean it's just it's it's the
[12:54] economy and everything and um like
[12:57] gas prices are a great example you know
[12:59] you go from
[13:01] last year to this year and it's like
[13:03] maybe two something a gallon yeah it's
[13:06] over double it's over double and then
[13:08] like uh i just want to go switch over uh
[13:11] utilities for this new place so gas
[13:13] electric
[13:14] um
[13:16] i don't know all the other utility ship
[13:17] but when i got on the phone to switch
[13:18] over gas i'm like just out of curiosity
[13:20] can you tell me the historic prices
[13:22] of previous months she's like well i
[13:24] will tell you all that but i want to
[13:25] precede it by telling you that the cost
[13:28] for gas has doubled from
[13:31] 0.68 therms or whatever the unit is to
[13:34] uh it's just double that like a dollar
[13:36] 36 a term so the gas bill is literally
[13:39] going to go from 200 to 400 to 400 and
[13:42] then the wins are 800 a month
[13:44] just just for that and that's excluding
[13:46] like the expense of everything else so
[13:47] you throw all of that in there and that
[13:50] i round about way of saying this jack
[13:51] wants to get a gr corolla and it's bet
[13:53] people have been asking are you going to
[13:54] get a new civic type r and i told them
[13:56] you should buy one but at the same time
[13:58] it's it's
[13:59] more money and it's not cheap anymore
[14:01] right like talking about a civic si back
[14:03] in the day oh twenty two thousand
[14:05] dollars or twenty four thousand yeah i
[14:06] could i think i can work that into the
[14:08] budget when you're talking about like 45
[14:09] and then when the dealers get a hold of
[14:11] you ten to one that thing is going to be
[14:12] fifty thousand dude that the car is
[14:14] gonna be like 60 grand yeah so it's like
[14:16] you're our and at that point i'm done
[14:17] with it like literally i will not even
[14:19] consider it and go why would you buy
[14:21] that when you can get a super or
[14:22] whatever it's like i if i wanted a civic
[14:24] type bar i can't even get one probably
[14:27] and that's just it man cause that so
[14:29] frustrating well mikey h is asking if
[14:31] you're moving to the villages in florida
[14:33] where you can review golf carts
[14:35] villages that's in lady lake
[14:38] yeah lady lake and uh and actually i
[14:40] love the the great biscuits and gravy
[14:43] and all the nursing home meals that we
[14:45] have there but jack that was one of your
[14:47] least it has nothing to do with obsessed
[14:49] garage that was his least favorite trip
[14:51] you and i have been to a lot of lovely
[14:53] places and also not lovely places as
[14:55] well some parts of california are
[14:56] horrible um
[14:58] that by far is the worst place i've ever
[15:01] spent time is lady lake that is like my
[15:03] version of well okay outside of like
[15:05] you know
[15:06] gary indiana
[15:08] yeah of doing a trip for work that was
[15:10] my least favorite location south boston
[15:12] where tmi was built i enjoyed more than
[15:15] ladylake and i think some of it and like
[15:17] i was trying to think about like jack
[15:18] because it like lady lake is just
[15:21] it's like every cardboard like you could
[15:23] look at it looks like every other suburb
[15:25] to be fair to it
[15:26] it it looks like every other suburb so
[15:28] you go down a street applebee's chili's
[15:31] like every chain it's so hard the
[15:33] average age is like 75. well i thought
[15:36] because there were a lot more of an
[15:38] older generation that there'd be more
[15:39] like diversity in terms of like stuff to
[15:41] do people would be more interested in
[15:43] like oh local business like all of that
[15:45] stuff was just like crazy amount of just
[15:48] the same thing and then the traffic was
[15:51] held up by golf carts i remember that
[15:53] that's what really pissed you off uh
[15:55] matt matt mormon was kind enough to let
[15:57] me drive the gt3 rs that he has and then
[16:00] the first thing i get behind after i
[16:01] blow by you guys like an is a
[16:02] golf cart yep yeah they're like 25 miles
[16:05] an hour oh yeah that we just got out of
[16:07] dinner and i don't oh wasn't it bone
[16:09] fish yeah yeah and at lea you looked
[16:11] outside the bonefish uh window to go to
[16:13] our car in right across from bonefish
[16:15] was a walgreens drive-through with two
[16:17] golf carts lined up to go through the
[16:19] the walgreens to pick up prescriptions
[16:20] and i'm like it's so weird i mean i get
[16:23] it i i mean i i guess i don't get it but
[16:26] it's just yeah i can see why you weren't
[16:27] really that charmed with it what other
[16:30] car topics do you want to discuss uh
[16:31] yeah let me look at my list jack before
[16:33] we start answering these people's
[16:34] questions no and to be fair uh benny b
[16:37] just said not that illinois is great it
[16:39] is not no
[16:41] it is not excellent this is not about us
[16:43] being in a better place i mean i'm just
[16:45] in general
[16:46] all right give me the next topic
[16:48] uh the toyota sienna jack
[16:53] i told you you should buy one of those
[16:54] too all right so the the story with the
[16:56] sienna was i got an x7 and i already
[16:58] explained that in a previous video
[17:01] um and i have no regrets about that
[17:03] choice other than it is a lot of money
[17:05] and
[17:06] i look at it and i think what would be
[17:09] the replacement for that because there's
[17:10] no way i'm keeping it outside of the uh
[17:12] whatever 95 000 mile warranty that i
[17:14] have
[17:15] um
[17:16] and i thought like okay what is going to
[17:17] do everything and the sienna
[17:19] because of its fuel economy not because
[17:21] of anything all well no i mean it's
[17:23] completely usable it's a total appliance
[17:25] on wheels and now i have one that we're
[17:27] kind of doing some long-term stuff on
[17:28] because i really want to explore what
[17:30] it's like we're going to detroit
[17:31] tomorrow to do crv watch the ottomans
[17:35] who just kicked it in the camera
[17:36] there it is um
[17:38] yeah so like we're going to detroit from
[17:40] illinois tomorrow on a day trip and just
[17:42] on my like 200 mile drive already i'm
[17:44] getting almost 40 miles per gallon not
[17:46] even trying in in a boat that big
[17:49] and you know
[17:50] like there's a lot to be said and i i
[17:52] thought it was like man this engine is
[17:54] dog holy crap is it slow and then i
[17:58] realize all i'm doing is sitting in
[17:59] traffic so who cares
[18:01] exactly and i'm not wasting money and
[18:03] it's completely usable so i i don't know
[18:06] like i think i'd just love to get back
[18:07] to a place where i just have some
[18:08] ridiculously fun car and then have a
[18:11] total like appliance that wants to suck
[18:13] your soul out
[18:15] i think
[18:16] one of the reasons why i don't think
[18:17] you'll mind is i actually really enjoyed
[18:19] our long-term benzo that thing as an
[18:21] appliance to go to and from iowa in was
[18:25] amazing it was comfortable it's quiet
[18:26] the lane keeps assist works all right
[18:28] yes the the uh
[18:30] infotainment of this gun is garbage yeah
[18:32] but you just plug in your phone anyway
[18:34] it's a total and i didn't give two shits
[18:36] about it well yeah yeah i think that's
[18:38] the other thing too driving the sienna
[18:39] around like as much as
[18:41] you lose like pretty much any like
[18:44] it's a refrigerator it is it is driving
[18:46] a refrigerator around but you're so
[18:47] stealth and incognito people like you
[18:49] roll past people and you just disappear
[18:52] like you're you're like a bot comment
[18:54] and like oh you're an npc yeah you are
[18:56] the police yeah you become that bc which
[18:59] also makes it great because i've been
[19:01] able to do some stuff in that
[19:02] thing can you drive by people go hey
[19:04] there
[19:08] i mean nobody's gonna give you hello
[19:10] nobody's even gonna well actually okay
[19:11] i'm gonna tell a story about this sienna
[19:13] i took my dad through the walgreens
[19:15] drive through pharmacy drive-thru
[19:17] yesterday and um i had an incident with
[19:20] somebody but before i get into that wait
[19:23] for this commercial
[19:25] there's no commercial i was just saying
[19:27] that because i wanted to delay this
[19:29] story and really drag it out for people
[19:31] to sit here for that i thought you're
[19:32] going to show them the amazing business
[19:34] opportunity that old spice and arby's do
[19:38] that do do it right now go on
[19:41] youtube and type in old spice and go
[19:43] look up their videos they have a
[19:45] partnership deal with arby's
[19:48] called uh
[19:50] what it what's that something about the
[19:51] meat sweat the meat sweats they they
[19:53] have a thing where somebody's eating
[19:54] like a triple decker arby's and you got
[19:56] the meat sweats and you got to get the
[19:58] old spice meat sweat edition deodorant i
[20:01] mean you want to talk about brand
[20:03] perfection right there
[20:05] i mean are you going to sue them for
[20:06] stealing your idea that that if i worked
[20:08] there that's exactly what i would have
[20:10] done so somebody's genius i hope that
[20:12] guy that guy's going to get promoted to
[20:13] vp after that
[20:15] or fired one or the other
[20:18] all right so tell them your story about
[20:19] how you're no let's do some let's do
[20:21] some questions first then we'll get into
[20:23] more like
[20:24] vlog or whatever this is so we've
[20:25] been inundated by questions already okay
[20:28] um i'm gonna bring up two two upcoming
[20:30] projects and this will answer one of the
[20:32] questions that someone asked already um
[20:34] oh my god chris we have a lot of
[20:36] questions bear with me
[20:38] oh where does this begin chris
[20:41] oh god
[20:43] oh perfect all right so we have a c606
[20:45] which is being led to us
[20:47] by a viewer and i think that's happening
[20:49] next week okay uh and we have
[20:51] engineering support from gm
[20:53] now that i've broken the seal with gm
[20:56] uh i will say i've spent a lot of time
[20:59] with various engineers and they are
[21:02] actually
[21:03] now my favorite american car brand to
[21:05] deal with from a technical level they
[21:06] may not necessarily build all my
[21:08] favorite vehicles but you you've now sat
[21:11] through a bunch of the interviews it's
[21:12] pretty amazing the kind of information
[21:13] will go to you if you ask
[21:16] i know that that kills you on the inside
[21:17] it does pain me but it's it is true at
[21:20] least right now the stuff that you've
[21:21] been doing there's people that are
[21:22] actually engaged and not just engaged
[21:25] from a marketing perspective they want
[21:27] to talk about why and how they did stuff
[21:29] now that that's completely different
[21:31] than the end result of how the product
[21:33] is yes so i i want to make that very
[21:36] clear of you know it's great to tell a
[21:38] story from our perspective because it's
[21:40] a new product we can't really judge it
[21:42] other than okay this is how it was like
[21:44] the lyric and the escalade v so the
[21:45] lyric the embargo is lifted like the
[21:48] lyric to me for i think the launch
[21:49] versions were 60 grand
[21:51] and i compare that to the gv60 you just
[21:54] drove the lyric has more range it has a
[21:57] more usable interior it rides better
[22:00] i think it's a better car and i mean the
[22:02] fact that i'm saying that about a gm ev
[22:04] is
[22:06] it's double wishbone front and rear
[22:08] where that thing isn't like it's a
[22:09] better car
[22:10] on the surface i i think there's real
[22:12] truth to that it's it's hard because
[22:15] you know you look at doing this stuff
[22:17] and you can probably everybody that's
[22:18] watching this can it can speak to this
[22:20] based on your own experience with cars
[22:22] or your own experience in life you know
[22:25] there are biases 100
[22:28] so how do you
[22:30] get through some of that to just like in
[22:32] our case just talk about what something
[22:34] is
[22:35] versus like what you feel about it you
[22:38] know you don't like korean cars
[22:42] okay and other than the launcher which
[22:43] is the best front-wheel drive car driven
[22:45] and i mean to be fair like the g80 is a
[22:47] really good car some of these cars are
[22:48] really good but you don't no matter what
[22:50] they do
[22:51] inherently you're gonna have a problem
[22:53] with them and
[22:54] this is coming from a korean person yeah
[22:57] so yeah i thought you were
[22:58] singaporean this dude changes my eraser
[23:02] because he's like he's playing the asian
[23:03] girl he's like i'm going to be every
[23:04] asian so i can fit in every group
[23:07] i can't do that i literally i'm just the
[23:09] stud
[23:12] yeah whatever won't go into that um the
[23:13] other project that's coming up i'm
[23:15] filming greg's from chicago auto pros
[23:18] 987.2
[23:20] cayman s which means nothing to him but
[23:22] it's the the cayman that everybody's
[23:24] been asking for just keep throwing out
[23:26] the numbers yeah i'm gonna bring out my
[23:28] spreadsheet i'll tell you
[23:30] i need like a decoder ring to figure out
[23:32] all these porsche numbers that you're
[23:33] always throwing around
[23:35] i do i honestly i have gotten better at
[23:38] it uh brian dogs thank you for the five
[23:40] dollars thank you everyone for that uh
[23:42] 0gn thank you for the 20. uh hey you
[23:45] guys supporting us always i was the guy
[23:48] buying the house you asked what truck to
[23:50] get elsa tacoma who owns the six speed
[23:52] thank you guys for the arby's update of
[23:55] june keep up the good work
[23:58] zero i don't know if you bought the taco
[24:00] yet but if you didn't it's still a great
[24:02] truck and if you did congratulations on
[24:04] your bridges congratulations and uh just
[24:07] congratulations when you make a million
[24:08] dollars on it in like 10 years
[24:11] when you sell somebody selling it more
[24:12] than 500 000 miles on it and you'll
[24:14] still make
[24:16] uh captain goof thank you for your 10
[24:18] donation imagine you're now a product
[24:20] planner please pitch me
[24:23] uh please pitch for me a total
[24:25] butchering of an old name plate let me
[24:27] suggest the new honda c2000 cuv except
[24:31] segment busting feature heated and
[24:33] cooled armrests
[24:36] man i don't think i could pitch one
[24:37] worse than the eclipse cross like that
[24:39] one is pretty amazing
[24:41] yeah that's really hard
[24:43] that that's like i mean we've talked
[24:45] about this before like with that with
[24:47] the name plates i was actually at
[24:49] portillo's okay and they have all this
[24:51] old-timey stuff all these advertisements
[24:54] on the wall and they had a
[24:56] and i i can't remember it was a ford it
[24:59] was like grand deluxe or some like name
[25:01] and it was showing the marketing
[25:03] description it was for the the active
[25:05] mother this car
[25:07] and it had all the luxury features like
[25:09] mahogany wood trim uh mohair carpet like
[25:13] all like real materials because there's
[25:15] no like plastic composites and i was
[25:17] sitting here thinking i'm like
[25:19] you know these are all the names like or
[25:21] more popular names that you could reboot
[25:23] into some cuv but i mean they're also
[25:26] cookie cutter you could just basically
[25:28] take any name and i don't think anybody
[25:29] would care anymore the only people that
[25:31] care are the people that have like some
[25:32] automotive like knowledge which
[25:34] apparently like the blazer is a good
[25:36] example everyone hates that
[25:37] thing on the internet yeah but they
[25:39] sound like a jillian kajillion of them
[25:41] yep that i mean because the normal
[25:43] person the corvette suv which is coming
[25:45] yeah my understanding
[25:46] i hate everything about that product
[25:49] and i'm sure they're gonna sell everyone
[25:50] they make so i can't pitch to you
[25:53] anything worse than it's already out
[25:54] there i don't know like some of that to
[25:56] get it getting off topic a little bit is
[25:58] we had that conversation with uh i think
[26:00] uh acura about that and
[26:03] uh like the one movie that comes to mind
[26:05] recently was ghostbusters the not the
[26:08] new one but the all-female cast one
[26:10] where people
[26:11] literally buried that movie
[26:14] just from just negative press and like
[26:17] like fake reviews and all this just
[26:19] literally buried it and i i think
[26:21] that's different because cars you could
[26:23] never bury because the number of people
[26:25] that are enthusiasts about cars are so
[26:28] minute compared to the actual people
[26:30] that buy them um i don't think people
[26:32] even care anymore about rebooting names
[26:34] they're like oh that's a cool name i
[26:36] have no idea what it is
[26:39] anyway it's depressing
[26:41] not really it's just business you should
[26:44] like that well
[26:45] bullying boy over here
[26:47] um
[26:48] kyle patton thank you for your ten
[26:50] dollars been waiting a while for the new
[26:52] tundra i hope it's worth it
[26:54] it's your your no no like it's i feel
[26:57] like it's hot as hell in here but i know
[26:59] it's not it's just the heat that you're
[27:00] putting off it's your laptop dude this
[27:02] thing is like
[27:03] it's probably my legs like my legs are
[27:06] sweating from being really close yeah
[27:08] it's probably the stupid because i don't
[27:10] ever turn this laptop on it's my backup
[27:12] and every time i turn it on of course
[27:13] microsoft anti-malware runs in the
[27:15] background and even when i disable the
[27:16] service somehow it comes back alive in
[27:19] five minutes and runs the cpu at a
[27:21] thousand percent for 50 hours uh kyle he
[27:25] said he's been waiting for the new
[27:26] tundra he hopes it's worth it he's got a
[27:29] tundra on order i'm assuming i assume so
[27:32] i i yeah i mean there's here there's
[27:34] nothing not to like about it honestly
[27:36] compared to the last one which is the
[27:38] question mark of reliability but it
[27:40] probably will be reliable because it's a
[27:41] toyota that i i mean anyway on the
[27:44] surface you're gonna get it and if it's
[27:45] working right you're gonna be like yeah
[27:46] this is good we have uh we're closing
[27:48] out the tundra videos with a tundra trd
[27:51] hybrid uh we get it next week or the
[27:53] week after
[27:55] um
[27:56] jdm flip-flops thank you for the ten
[27:57] dollars thank you sir thank you jdm flip
[28:00] flops you guys have a lot of love from
[28:02] mazda and porsche on the other hand are
[28:04] there any brands that have made it a
[28:06] royal pain in the ass either get a press
[28:08] car for them or get their engineering
[28:09] support yes lots of brands are a major
[28:12] pain in the ass to do both of those
[28:14] things we had a discussion about
[28:15] throwing the rep under the bus about a
[28:18] certain american oem that isn't gm or
[28:20] isn't
[28:21] dodge
[28:22] volantis you mean oh yes
[28:25] uh that isn't either those brands you
[28:26] can talk about tesla yeah i'm talking
[28:28] about tesla no um talk about another
[28:30] american brand you see what the tesla's
[28:32] doing by the way they're looking at
[28:33] people's badge swipes and seeing who's
[28:35] not coming in the office i don't know if
[28:37] that's true but if it's true it's
[28:38] amazing like they're they're actively
[28:40] sending eddie they're sending out emails
[28:41] we noticed you haven't been swiping in
[28:43] you're not showing up to work when
[28:44] you're supposed to you're done
[28:47] that's like the power move anyway go
[28:49] ahead uh certain brands they just don't
[28:51] value it right and i think some of it's
[28:52] the reps too like uh drew carey at mazda
[28:55] the head of mazda pr is amazing he
[28:58] really values engineering the whole
[29:00] porsche team and a lot of our toyota
[29:02] reps value the technical side of cars
[29:05] and they believe that is what should
[29:06] sell their product they're different
[29:07] than the typical marketing arms and even
[29:10] i know you hate gm but look what they're
[29:12] doing with z06 i don't hate gm well
[29:14] right you don't hate you don't like all
[29:16] not all of gm but the the gmz06 whoever
[29:19] is running their internal marketing for
[29:21] that putting out all those little
[29:23] corvette academy videos they're putting
[29:24] the engineers first which
[29:26] while i agree a lot of the videos are
[29:28] quite dumbed down
[29:29] they are they're making an effort to
[29:32] prioritize engineering in the mainstream
[29:33] sometimes that's the most important
[29:34] thing to go back to actually answering
[29:36] the question because this is a big one
[29:39] i had a discussion with jack about this
[29:41] person specifically and this person has
[29:43] been around the block like literally her
[29:47] oops
[29:48] the entire career
[29:50] has been at multiple different companies
[29:51] at multiple levels this is not somebody
[29:54] that's just like doesn't know what
[29:55] they're doing so when it comes time to
[29:57] actually approaching this person
[30:00] i just don't think they don't value
[30:02] they've been around too long it doesn't
[30:03] even factor in this is just we are a
[30:06] thorn or we are an obstacle for this
[30:09] person to do their job it's too much to
[30:11] ask
[30:12] at that place in that person's career
[30:14] and they do not value us trying to get
[30:17] more information request conversations
[30:20] with engineers to learn how their
[30:21] products work they don't literally it
[30:24] could be just this person but it could
[30:25] be the company mentality they do not
[30:28] care about that and they flat out said
[30:30] this is not a good use of our time is
[30:32] providing you this information now that
[30:34] could be loaded there could be more to
[30:36] it but when you look at somebody's
[30:37] career which you can and see i've
[30:39] already done everything i don't need to
[30:41] bend over for this of this outlet or
[30:43] whoever this is to give you all that
[30:45] information because it's not a good use
[30:47] of my time and that from our side is
[30:50] really telling about what companies
[30:53] really value trying to get information
[30:55] out there which are or those that just
[30:57] all they give a about is
[30:59] controlling the narrative and the
[31:00] marketing part um and many companies are
[31:03] that way and that's that's how business
[31:04] runs they don't need really they don't
[31:07] really need marketing it's just an
[31:09] exercise for them we got to do this
[31:10] let's get it done and over with that's
[31:12] all it is and there's nothing wrong with
[31:14] it um
[31:17] i mean there's a lot of businesses that
[31:18] are run like that and to be fair you
[31:20] know we are nothing and nobody in the uh
[31:22] yeah yeah i mean we're fully aware of
[31:24] that
[31:24] hopefully that answers your question
[31:26] i've been trying to tell jack that
[31:27] because he takes it personal when he's
[31:28] like trying to do a good job and trying
[31:30] to get information and he expects
[31:32] companies martin is another good example
[31:33] yeah
[31:34] i think you have an expectation that
[31:35] companies care about this stuff as much
[31:37] as you do and that
[31:38] that is just not going to be the case
[31:41] and you're never going to get
[31:44] your
[31:44] response you're never going to be happy
[31:47] if you have that expectation of people
[31:48] utility right now you're going to be
[31:49] vastly does it's worked for the brands
[31:51] and i built good relationships with
[31:53] certain brands that regardless of the
[31:55] reps and i are best friends i have a lot
[31:57] of respect for them yeah and that's the
[31:59] counterpoint right but you also chase
[32:01] those people that respect what you're
[32:03] doing that appreciate what you're doing
[32:04] and trying to go to that you take the
[32:06] next step to get you that information
[32:08] that you're desperately seeking because
[32:10] i think a lot of those reps know that
[32:12] it's more work to do what you're doing
[32:14] and they they're like this guy is
[32:15] actually trying so it elevates their
[32:18] performance and elevates the stuff and
[32:20] our reps have also learned a lot that
[32:21] they didn't know about their own
[32:22] products just from us digging deeper
[32:25] into some of the questions and while it
[32:26] might be useless knowledge i think they
[32:28] do appreciate that there's somebody out
[32:30] there trying to push them but you know
[32:32] it gets exhausting i think that's long
[32:34] it's exhausting i'm sure some of the
[32:36] engineers after some of these uh
[32:38] questions or at least the rapture like
[32:39] god i hate this guy no no i know
[32:41] we said that before like you you know
[32:44] that in the background they're like god
[32:45] damn i don't want to be dealing with
[32:46] these guys again it's like always 10
[32:48] times more work than if i just talked to
[32:51] some like influencer who just wants you
[32:52] know like a couple pictures
[32:54] yeah yeah exactly uh cool stuff one two
[32:57] three
[32:58] thank you for your 10 donation i'm cross
[33:00] shopping the gr86 premium and c8 1lt
[33:04] coupe i have deposits on each at msrp so
[33:07] dealer markup isn't an issue is the c8
[33:10] worth twice the price in this case
[33:14] if
[33:15] the c8 is about it's a better car than
[33:17] the gr86
[33:20] is it
[33:21] objectively worth twice twice the price
[33:24] yes
[33:25] if you're it's a and i say this a
[33:27] hundred times all these videos what are
[33:30] you doing with the car so if you're
[33:31] gonna preface a question let's just put
[33:33] this out here because if you want a real
[33:35] answer you're gonna have to preface this
[33:36] by saying this is what i do with my car
[33:39] i take it to the track i hard park it in
[33:42] the garage and wipe it with you know a
[33:44] diaper or my girlfriend's like 10 year
[33:46] old underwear
[33:47] you i need to know we need to know like
[33:49] what you're doing with these things so
[33:50] we can help you better understand
[33:52] because you know the corvette
[33:54] and the 80 the 86 is most fun when
[33:56] you're actually driving it flat out on
[33:58] the track yes that's a car that's
[34:00] engaging to drive but if all you're
[34:02] going to do is park it around and you
[34:03] want something
[34:04] speed excites you that's the wrong car
[34:06] you know what i mean so you see it is
[34:08] better interior it rides better it's
[34:09] faster it's more sophisticated it's just
[34:12] more right news to drive fast it's not a
[34:14] good driver's car as it it's not a good
[34:16] driver's car as it stands as a stock
[34:18] vehicle it's set up to understeer like
[34:20] crazy it's overly safe it's not really
[34:24] that connected feeling you have to do a
[34:25] lot to it to make it that way it has
[34:27] full alignment capability day one if you
[34:28] get the z51 package there are a lot of
[34:30] things you can do to negate some of
[34:32] those issues and the other question is
[34:35] is double the money a big deal to you if
[34:37] thirty if sixty five thousand whatever
[34:39] holding costs
[34:40] is no
[34:41] no real difference to your day in and
[34:43] day out life versus a thirty one
[34:46] thousand dollar e6 get the c8 yeah that
[34:49] i mean unless you're just going to go to
[34:50] the track there's more to say about it
[34:52] but i think you you know where we're
[34:54] coming from
[34:55] uh
[34:56] dan smith thank you for the 20
[34:58] donation hey guys thanks for the
[35:00] fantastic videos quick question i'm a
[35:01] bigger guy six
[35:03] six foot four a larger frame i'm looking
[35:05] for a luxury compact suv any
[35:08] recommendations under 55 000.
[35:12] and i'm six foot so it's hard for me to
[35:14] visualize i think about mike
[35:16] mike doesn't fit in anything at that
[35:18] size mike's even taller isn't he's like
[35:19] six five or something yeah mike is mike
[35:21] makes me feel like a little dwarf when
[35:23] it's that next door he doesn't fit in
[35:24] any car so he's like man why don't they
[35:26] make these big i'm like dude you're just
[35:28] you're in the 90th percentile of size so
[35:30] you're on the outside part of what these
[35:32] car designers are looking at and
[35:33] probably this gentleman as well is going
[35:35] to be on the outside of that so it's
[35:37] going to be really tough uh let's just
[35:38] say our favorite luxury suv is under 55
[35:41] grand we're going to say i'm going to
[35:42] say gv70
[35:44] um look you said compact gv70 x3 imagine
[35:48] the x3 will probably fit you germans are
[35:51] tall
[35:52] um i'm i'm discounting rdx out of the
[35:54] list now because it's so old
[35:56] and that's not big on the inside yeah
[35:58] that's not big what else do you like i
[36:01] like the but that's that's again that's
[36:03] not probably not going to fit him as the
[36:04] the
[36:05] lexus pile the rx oh the rx but the rx
[36:08] is getting refreshed yeah yeah which
[36:11] you know i mean i don't know that's a
[36:12] four popper only now too i would look at
[36:15] personally uh if you want a luxury
[36:19] uh
[36:20] compact suv x3 or gv70 and i'm a ton is
[36:23] in under 55. what else are we missing
[36:25] there's got to be some other brands
[36:26] there glc i didn't like
[36:29] mercedes yeah what other luxury brands
[36:31] are there i don't like lincoln's i mean
[36:33] the corsair is fine but i wouldn't tell
[36:34] you to buy a new lincoln right um
[36:36] the small catalog suvs are crap uh what
[36:40] about the dodge piles or the g piles
[36:42] what are they
[36:43] they have no good small ones
[36:46] yeah all the small ones are like the
[36:47] garbage cans yeah so you're basically if
[36:49] you want and he wants luxury so yeah
[36:51] basically my mind the q5 is small and
[36:53] it's old but it's it's a good car an sq5
[36:56] is great yeah well that's all over that
[36:58] sq5 is what like that's got to be like
[37:00] 65 000 is that
[37:02] yeah around 60 you know but
[37:05] no okay yeah well the q5 is great it's
[37:07] just very vanilla yeah x3 man if you
[37:11] honestly i mean i hate to say that but
[37:13] it's rear-wheel drive architecture
[37:15] you know it's still 50 50 weight
[37:16] distribution out of an suv it's just not
[37:19] luxury kind of to me it feels very gv70
[37:22] has a nicer interior it does one hundred
[37:23] percent we'll leave it uh let's just
[37:25] leave it at that gv70x3 take a look at
[37:27] both of those i think you'll hopefully
[37:28] fit in one of them this guy's just
[37:30] saying genesis because
[37:32] to make up for the fact that he's really
[37:33] trash they have a predator drone outside
[37:35] of this house they're gonna drone strike
[37:36] me in my escalator when you see monday's
[37:39] video or friday's video uh when it's the
[37:41] gv70 or whatever sorry gv60 you'll see
[37:44] that it's all shot by me and made by me
[37:46] aside from jack making a minimal
[37:48] appearance in the shop yeah it's like
[37:50] all for jax jack calls me he's like man
[37:53] i'm done with this thing
[37:55] i spent three minutes under here
[37:57] is that enough
[37:59] [Laughter]
[38:01] um
[38:03] sam for five dollars
[38:05] i'm competing in a bodybuilding show
[38:07] coming up in four weeks please have lots
[38:10] of arby's curly fries and red lobster
[38:12] biscuits for me
[38:14] where do you want them sent i mean we
[38:16] got you know my contract now the multi
[38:18] my max contract with red lobster i can
[38:20] send you biscuits galore
[38:23] uh two questions from that are not paid
[38:25] that i want to answer that i think are
[38:27] hilarious one are we brothers and i'm
[38:29] gonna bring up something that came from
[38:30] the hawaii trip that will always did you
[38:33] tell this one already maybe
[38:35] you're going to retell it sorry so we
[38:36] are
[38:37] now that people have seen like the five
[38:39] people moral that have watched their
[38:40] hawaii video
[38:41] um
[38:42] one of the stops we did was at a uh
[38:45] basically like a laboratory essentially
[38:47] that worked primarily in water
[38:48] laboratory what do you for a laboratory
[38:52] what do you what country are you from um
[38:55] oh that goes into go back to yeah dude
[38:57] i'm like 40 countries go back to your
[38:59] planet
[39:00] no yeah sorry about jeff goldblum or
[39:02] girls are easy oh yeah
[39:04] um
[39:05] man that was a that was a throwback
[39:07] that's throwback to what year probably
[39:09] 80s
[39:10] 90s birth girls no that's probably
[39:11] you're probably gina davis is in that
[39:13] one too maybe it's all right anyway back
[39:15] to the story we're at this place
[39:18] um
[39:19] for science
[39:20] and this lady who is trying to show us
[39:23] what you can do with sea salt water salt
[39:26] uh was like are you guys brothers you
[39:27] guys have the same eyes
[39:29] and uh bark and i are obviously not the
[39:31] same ethnic background and have no uh
[39:35] are we do not share the same parents
[39:36] yeah but we have the eyes because we
[39:38] both have squinty eyes so apparently
[39:40] that means that we're both born she
[39:42] didn't see race i'm gonna give her that
[39:43] the like the late oh that's why you
[39:45] didn't like lady lake because somebody
[39:46] said something right not even it's not
[39:48] racist i guess it's like speak really
[39:49] good english yeah what would you call
[39:51] that like it was like i don't know it
[39:53] was
[39:54] what would be the like the it made me
[39:56] laugh no the derogatory term the
[39:57] foundation
[39:59] no there's a you speak really good
[40:00] english no that's like what do they call
[40:02] that backhanded compliment no
[40:05] what is it when you
[40:07] talk about like a gender or a race and
[40:09] like put stereotypes on them
[40:13] somebody's gonna pick it up like
[40:15] oh like if a movie came out and they had
[40:17] a white person playing it uh like what
[40:19] was that movie with emma stone she
[40:20] played my favorite movie ever
[40:23] i know aloha yeah she played like an
[40:25] asian bradley cooper in it and emma
[40:27] stone plays a half korean league okay
[40:32] anyway whatever like yeah you
[40:35] jack came back to the hotel that night
[40:36] he's like you'll never believe this
[40:40] the water works to come and he wanted me
[40:41] to hold them
[40:43] it was like uh it was like uh casino
[40:46] royale i got in the shower i was crying
[40:48] and you came with
[40:50] oh poor jack all right anyway back to
[40:52] the questions um
[40:55] oh god all right where the am i in
[40:56] this i'm sorry guys we're trying to tell
[40:58] stories
[41:00] uh
[41:01] nope nope
[41:04] too many too many questions all right
[41:06] andrew thank you for the five euros any
[41:08] insight to why colors like the recent
[41:11] mdx you've viewed aren't more commonly
[41:13] offered here's some petrol money for one
[41:16] of your small us gallons
[41:18] oh the mdx yeah why aren't more
[41:20] interesting colors put in press fleets
[41:22] or purchased i know i i'm pretty sure i
[41:24] said this on the last live stream about
[41:26] the the design one of the designers or
[41:28] product liners for the old civic the
[41:30] the civic that everybody hated when it
[41:32] came out like i think the 9th gen
[41:35] yeah i think it was the 9th gen so it
[41:36] was like super bland and she fought to
[41:39] get that lime green and then an orange
[41:41] color and the dealers didn't want it and
[41:44] it was a huge backlash against her
[41:46] because she went to bat for interesting
[41:47] color so none of the dealers wanted it
[41:49] and they complained and complained up
[41:50] the corporate chain and then they didn't
[41:52] sell a lot of them that was the the the
[41:54] knife in it and she said afterwards i
[41:56] will never do that again in my career it
[41:58] was just not worth going to bat for
[42:00] those extra colors and i think that's
[42:02] that's part of it is people don't buy
[42:04] them people don't buy them in in mass
[42:06] and bulk and just that again it's about
[42:08] tying up production to have these
[42:09] one-off colors and the dealers are a big
[42:11] part they want the mainstream movers how
[42:13] can they move the most amount of cars
[42:15] possible and the mainstream colors will
[42:17] sell way more than the obscure ones and
[42:19] it's weird when you meet people who buy
[42:21] mainstream color choices they say it's
[42:23] because it's eloquent or elegant or
[42:25] sophisticated yeah all the adjectives to
[42:28] describe but on the counterpoint is like
[42:30] you look at some of the audi products
[42:32] like now you can it's not paint to
[42:33] sample it's like you can see them going
[42:35] the spectrum colors you can choose i
[42:36] think there's like 30 of them they're
[42:38] outside the box that of course you have
[42:40] to wait for it takes away the rs3 gets
[42:42] crazy colors and we are doing an rs3
[42:45] video and we will be taking it to the
[42:46] track oh boy i can't wait for that no
[42:49] dude my tent will be pitched no no
[42:51] that'll be a product that'll actually be
[42:53] fun anyway the paint to sample stuff
[42:54] like where you can choose specialty
[42:56] colors i think that that would be a good
[42:57] way to offset some of the cost like if i
[43:00] really wanted a car color
[43:02] like some of the badass colors that you
[43:04] should be able to choose on cars that
[43:05] you're spending now like what fifty
[43:07] thousand dollars on anyone i would wait
[43:09] a couple months to get a special color i
[43:11] wish they would do that but they don't
[43:12] have the they don't have it set up and
[43:14] they're manufacturing this someone's
[43:16] comment dodge the however does do a good
[43:18] job with colors all the chargers and
[43:20] challengers like i guess plum crazy that
[43:22] yeah they use is amazing
[43:24] um one of my friends always comments
[43:26] like why is it always the box cars
[43:28] that have the cool colors you see a
[43:30] chevy spark and like teal and purple and
[43:32] like the renegades have like crazy
[43:34] colors it's like it's weird that they do
[43:36] it on like the base like like i just
[43:39] think it's a dodge thing i will say i
[43:40] mean porsche if you pay twenty thousand
[43:42] dollars you can paint your car however
[43:43] yeah that's true yeah exactly what a
[43:45] deal
[43:46] well no that's that's what's the there's
[43:48] two levels of pts there's uh there's
[43:51] like there's pts and i think pts plus
[43:54] this is hyper nerdy and yeah spreadsheet
[43:56] up but if you do pts there's a list of
[43:58] colors i think it's only seven thousand
[44:00] for the list of colors and then to do
[44:01] the full blown one where you pick the
[44:03] color like you could just take a paint
[44:05] twenty degrees it's 20 grand yeah
[44:07] um all right anyway daniel oh bendy gave
[44:11] us 420 420 4.25 yeah oh
[44:15] is it 420 today
[44:18] no it's not
[44:19] well if somebody's watching this after
[44:20] the fact it could be well if you watch
[44:22] this next year on 420
[44:23] bendy yeah then you can really celebrate
[44:26] uh daniel hellner thank you for the ten
[44:29] dollars is there no room in the kingdom
[44:31] of heaven for automatic transmission
[44:33] enjoyers yeah there is
[44:35] hey i used to be all down on the auto
[44:37] and in certain cars we've said it like
[44:39] the elantra and conant while the conan
[44:41] doesn't come with anything else but the
[44:42] veloster in it's better as a dual clutch
[44:45] i will say like that's a perfect example
[44:47] if you're if you're an automatic hater
[44:49] you go back five to ten years and go
[44:52] drive a hyundai or kia all their
[44:54] automatics and what do we say to every
[44:55] single one god these things are horrible
[44:57] or like the cvt piles like oh man i
[45:00] would never get one of these and then
[45:02] just see the turnaround literally from
[45:04] their first dcts and like the first gen
[45:06] d cts that were blowing up and people
[45:08] like these are horrible to what they did
[45:10] in the new cars to convert you over to
[45:12] being like i would rather have the dct
[45:14] that's how good it is that's a huge step
[45:16] forward um and obviously the future cars
[45:18] we're not even gonna be well i guess
[45:20] porsche has a multi-speed uh ev but who
[45:23] knows if they're gonna do that like all
[45:24] these car companies i and i think too
[45:26] like certain vehicles
[45:28] like the gt3 so we're
[45:30] we're doing another gt3 video this
[45:32] summer
[45:33] big big shock there but it'll be more
[45:35] digestible and artsy and fun
[45:37] and you know the our rep is a coat
[45:40] doesn't matter i'm like i don't care
[45:41] what your box is in that car it's
[45:43] amazing that's a good point when you
[45:45] literally could not care what what
[45:46] gearbox is in the car because the car is
[45:48] so good the engine regardless of what it
[45:50] is
[45:50] you can't lose with certain cars yeah
[45:52] there are still some really shitty
[45:53] automatics out there yes there are but
[45:55] there are some bad automatics if you buy
[45:57] an automatic you can still go to heaven
[45:59] daniel uh stephen thompson for five
[46:01] dollars thoughts on the previous gen g80
[46:04] v8 it seems like a great use value in
[46:06] the mid 30s
[46:07] yeah and i i was gonna buy a g80 v8 um
[46:11] and that engine like there wasn't a lot
[46:13] of good and i didn't to be fair i didn't
[46:15] know a hyundai uh hyundai mechanic at
[46:17] that time so i was really nervous about
[46:20] it but i think the only thing from my
[46:22] research back then was
[46:23] certain engines had a shitload of oil
[46:25] consumption issues like oil consumption
[46:28] was the biggest what else would you buy
[46:29] used in that price range the luxury suv
[46:32] uh the uh
[46:34] the v8 pile and the gs the gsf gsf is
[46:37] not 30 grand oh it's got to be 30 in the
[46:40] mid 30s oh god there's not much not with
[46:43] a v8 like you'd have to go to like old
[46:45] like legacy yeah that's hard to pick but
[46:47] just saying regular what would you buy
[46:49] use as a luxury sedan on that price did
[46:51] you get a gs or an es on that price
[46:52] range i'd personally i get an es i know
[46:55] that's that's like boring as hell but it
[46:57] does it's so well
[47:00] to get a used es in this generation is
[47:03] going to be impossible for 30 000 so
[47:05] that would lead you back into the old gs
[47:08] with a v6
[47:09] the previous gs and then probably an old
[47:12] ls500 you could probably find an old
[47:14] ls500 for maybe 40. yeah that thing
[47:17] would be amazing yeah just above the
[47:20] boat i mean that that's a tough one man
[47:21] that's not a lot of money to work with
[47:23] if you want luxury yeah purely if you
[47:26] want a luxury car right there's a lot of
[47:27] great options in the 30s oh yeah yeah
[47:29] you always buy a used five series with a
[47:31] long ass warranty yeah that that's true
[47:33] you'd have to i think so people ask this
[47:35] a lot i've seen a lot of questions like
[47:36] what extended warranty would you buy
[47:39] and i've had to do a lot of research
[47:40] because i was doing this when i bought
[47:41] the x7 used because bmw doesn't do their
[47:44] own aftermarket warranties so um
[47:49] the one of the best aftermarket
[47:50] warranties is fidelity right now so if
[47:53] you're if you're looking to get a used
[47:54] car and you're looking for an
[47:55] aftermarket warranty fidelity is really
[47:57] safe and they're fair if you sell the
[47:58] car and you get your money back and all
[48:00] that so
[48:01] that's just a tip for you
[48:03] uh all right back to the questions and
[48:05] this one made me smile earlier
[48:07] robert patrick has assured that you can
[48:09] get girl drink drunk
[48:13] have yourself a round of chocolate chew
[48:15] chews on me
[48:16] i currently have decently optioned 718
[48:20] no lsd or ptv but i enjoy driving it is
[48:24] a gts 4 liter really worth the upgrade
[48:27] i'd see track days and road trips
[48:30] it would see track days and road trips
[48:32] absolutely the 4 liter is amazing
[48:34] yeah it is
[48:36] yeah i'll i'll leave it at that it's a
[48:37] special car i mean it's not the the old
[48:40] you know
[48:41] it's not
[48:42] gt4 rs
[48:44] but the 4-liter i mean it's it's got its
[48:46] roots that they're all very have
[48:48] similarities to it so that's a
[48:49] no-brainer if you're going from the four
[48:51] popper yeah to the flat six yeah and you
[48:54] don't care that you're gonna have a lot
[48:56] of money
[48:57] absolutely worth the money get it as a
[49:00] manual too that's a car i think yeah
[49:02] it's not it's not fast enough yeah and
[49:04] the the pdk and the for the the non ar
[49:08] or the non gt products are slightly
[49:10] different the way that they're tuned
[49:11] they're not as juicy i'll just put it
[49:13] that way
[49:14] uh gregory ames no arby's oh thank you
[49:17] gregory for the five dollars no arby's
[49:19] tonight thoughts on the audi e-tron well
[49:22] we're getting an e-tron press car so you
[49:24] can uh
[49:25] feel free to wait for that i guess in
[49:27] the market for a family hauler hate the
[49:29] model y waiting to see a pulse r3 price
[49:32] range
[49:34] yeah you know i'm i've after seeing all
[49:36] the volvo stuff it's like i i'm really
[49:39] pulling for them to to fix their cars
[49:42] with the ev part of it but it's so hard
[49:44] because you know it's not like
[49:46] they're gonna take probably two more
[49:48] generations to get evs that are just
[49:50] like amazing and they're they're close
[49:52] now but
[49:53] i i'm looking forward to seeing their
[49:55] cars in 2030 and let's just put it that
[49:56] way i'm going to answer about six more
[49:59] questions and tell your story then i'll
[50:00] go back to answering questions
[50:02] yeah uh motive engineering for two
[50:04] dollars still planning on a c606 video
[50:07] if you're tuning in i have spoken to the
[50:10] small block team who designed the ls7
[50:12] and we are getting a c606 2009
[50:16] next week from a very very kind viewer
[50:19] named dan can you explain a little bit
[50:21] like about your call just so people
[50:23] understand yeah sue i worked i had a
[50:25] call with probably five or six members
[50:27] senior members of the gm small block
[50:29] team
[50:30] so the way gm works obviously you have
[50:32] your individual engineering teams for
[50:33] different products then you have your
[50:35] product line engineers as well chief
[50:37] engineers blah blah blah i spoke to some
[50:40] of the gentlemen who have worked for gm
[50:42] for like 30 years and this specific team
[50:44] designed the ls7 and the new lt6 they've
[50:48] worked on basically every iteration of
[50:50] v8 you can think of from last 20 years
[50:52] there were five of them it was a pretty
[50:55] just normal conversation more
[50:58] they let me ask some difficult questions
[51:00] about lifters and all that other
[51:01] nonsense and you know valve train issues
[51:03] but as well they explained what their
[51:06] process was to design the ls7 what the
[51:08] leadership wanted what the corvette team
[51:10] wanted and they walked through why they
[51:11] loved that motor so much still and how
[51:13] did you what was your impression of
[51:15] talking to them like did you feel that
[51:18] they were still passionate that they
[51:19] watched to talk about it after this long
[51:20] they um
[51:22] it's a corny phrase but i think after
[51:24] meeting more and more gm engineers and
[51:26] i'm going to say this about gm here in a
[51:28] second next too but um
[51:30] they said that they they basically do
[51:32] the sports car stuff for free oh really
[51:34] that's what it is that's that's that's
[51:36] how they treat their job so like they
[51:38] know they're there to design v8s for
[51:41] tahoe and silverado and all other
[51:44] nonsense but
[51:45] they'll work on the uh sports car
[51:48] products like the ls7 after hours
[51:50] because they want to because that's
[51:52] that's like what they're passionate
[51:53] about they're not just doing like a
[51:54] cookie cutter you know the car the motor
[51:57] is badass have you ever if you've ever
[51:58] heard an ls7 as you're about to drive
[52:00] one and i will too i'm really excited
[52:02] because that motor
[52:03] i don't think a lot of gm v8s have a lot
[52:05] of character that commodore has a donut
[52:07] i'll be interested to drive it like i
[52:09] like i say this all the time like i
[52:10] don't really get excited until i'm
[52:12] actually driving it and you'll catch me
[52:13] like caught off guard where i'm like oh
[52:15] my god this is actually amazing and it's
[52:16] pretty genuine
[52:18] uh
[52:19] bradley berry thank you so much for the
[52:21] fifty dollars thank you and thank you to
[52:22] everybody who's donating to ask a
[52:24] question and i'm trying to answer
[52:26] regular questions as well
[52:28] um
[52:29] barry
[52:30] sorry bradley uh said i just wanted to
[52:33] say thank you guys for the amazing
[52:34] content you guys are hands down the best
[52:36] review channel out there well thank you
[52:38] uh bernie mac for five dollars it's nice
[52:40] to see that you're you're back from the
[52:42] dead yeah yeah thanks bernie
[52:45] no question just one event that i
[52:47] absolutely hate the amazon alexa
[52:49] commercial for the buick enclave thanks
[52:51] guys that'll lead me back to my gm thing
[52:53] so gm has three divisions in my mind
[52:56] that i've spoken to or
[52:57] three three levels of teams you have the
[53:01] truck team which have unlimited
[53:03] resources and limited money and trucks
[53:06] are hard to debate whether they're good
[53:07] or not because everybody has their own
[53:09] opinions it's like religions you have
[53:10] the sports car team who make things like
[53:12] the zl1 the corvette and like the black
[53:15] wing those guys make amazing cars and
[53:18] then you have the shitbox gm products
[53:20] like the tracks yeah the encores of the
[53:23] world it's like the b team stuff the b
[53:25] team stuff that's
[53:27] uh blazer equinox all that crap
[53:31] that's one of those products the encore
[53:33] okay yeah i mean i i i would agree with
[53:35] you i think doing this more you have an
[53:37] enclave sorry i wouldn't say a better
[53:38] respect but you understand that like
[53:40] okay you're not gonna put your senior
[53:42] level people on cars that are just like
[53:44] they out right they're just trying
[53:46] to fill that hole and we we i was
[53:48] talking about this with bmw
[53:50] like why do you have an x one two three
[53:52] four five six seven eight and nine and
[53:54] it's like they're literally just trying
[53:55] to plug holes so they have that in
[53:57] between well our customers want this we
[53:59] don't have it so we got to fill the gap
[54:01] and like how is that cost effective but
[54:02] it's also a way for engineers to cut
[54:04] their teeth on like products that are
[54:06] far less important
[54:08] so the the young workforce can come in
[54:10] screw that up and then actually work on
[54:13] a product that matters so some of it is
[54:15] that too
[54:17] all right and two more and then we'll
[54:19] tell your story okay real stories
[54:23] for ten dollars thank you
[54:25] uh some of the elantra and models are
[54:27] broken from the dealership missing a
[54:29] pedal
[54:30] huh
[54:31] with time the six speed will be more
[54:33] sought after than the dct enjoy your
[54:35] automatic
[54:36] suckers you're probably not wrong your
[54:39] launch ran as a manual be worth more
[54:41] money
[54:41] that's i mean that's the reality of
[54:43] manual cars in general i mean
[54:45] so you just don't get me wrong i i don't
[54:47] want to on the automatic stuff
[54:50] because certain people cannot drive
[54:51] manual that that's totally fine my point
[54:53] is that automatics have gotten so good
[54:55] that in some cases like you really can
[54:58] still get that much enjoyment there's
[54:59] not it's not a dirty word however
[55:01] because there's so little manuals and so
[55:04] it's harder to find them in terms of a
[55:06] long-term investment if you can drive a
[55:08] manual you're almost better off doing
[55:10] that because when you go to flip it i
[55:12] mean you're certain cars of course it's
[55:14] gonna be gone you're gonna have like 10
[55:15] offers on it in two days like oh my god
[55:17] i can't find this as long as you take
[55:18] good care of it um it's always going to
[55:20] be easy to sell
[55:22] that's the truth right all i mean like
[55:24] c7 is a good example i keep looking at
[55:26] prices because i don't know what to do
[55:27] with my car if i get what i'm trying to
[55:29] get
[55:29] um the automatics are worthless in
[55:32] comparison to the manual yeah old
[55:33] porsches are that way no one wants a
[55:35] manual i mean a pdk
[55:37] not nobody but less people want the the
[55:40] manual gt car i mean the automatic gt
[55:42] cars uh torledge thank you for your five
[55:44] dollars thank yous morgan s thank you
[55:46] for your fifty dollars oh
[55:48] what are we doing here what are we what
[55:50] he's asking about the chevy spark mark
[55:51] oh is he yeah for 50 bucks he's asking
[55:53] about the chevy smart don't worry i'm
[55:55] ready mentally for this one uh would you
[55:56] guys consider reviewing a chevy spark
[55:58] the cheapest new car in the u.s doesn't
[56:00] seem like doesn't seem to be a total
[56:02] pile and it's getting discontinued in
[56:04] august
[56:05] the chances of us actually getting a
[56:07] spark from from gm why they would even
[56:09] spend the money the 600 plus dollars to
[56:12] have it
[56:13] glowed out when they're killing it off i
[56:16] mean i honestly uh a friend
[56:18] wanted to get one i did a test drive and
[56:21] one of them and i was biting my tongue
[56:23] the whole time i was in it and by the
[56:25] end of the test drive i'm like
[56:27] it wasn't it's bad how cheap is it
[56:30] well what they wanted to sell it for was
[56:32] like 25 000 they had they were like
[56:35] trying to mark it up what yeah because
[56:37] there was it was hard to find at that
[56:39] time there wasn't a lot of them but i
[56:40] mean i think the base prices
[56:42] don't quote me but somewhere around like
[56:44] 16.
[56:46] i think i think 16 grand for a new car
[56:48] 16 18 probably whatever i don't know i
[56:51] could be totally wrong but i know it's
[56:52] cheap and it really other than knowing
[56:55] that it was like kind of a box and
[56:58] you remove yourself of it it was
[57:00] actually good to drive
[57:02] it was not bad to drive it's not mini
[57:04] cooper like you get a mini coop you're
[57:05] like holy this thing's way better
[57:07] for like a micro car but
[57:09] i don't know if you're on a tight budget
[57:10] you need a small car
[57:13] not the end of the world someone says
[57:15] it's starting thirteen thousand six
[57:16] hundred dollars okay so by the time you
[57:18] probably get one option with a couple
[57:19] things that's like 14 or 15 grand they
[57:22] wanted 25 grand yeah because this that
[57:24] was like a weird color combination and
[57:26] like it there was none in like a 400
[57:29] mile range
[57:31] like like a geography what a deal
[57:35] all right last one before your story
[57:36] that's dealerships man forgetful foot
[57:38] for five dollars thank you can't wait to
[57:40] see you guys do a 987 or 987.2 cayman
[57:44] boxster video well as i mentioned
[57:46] earlier we are doing one all right mark
[57:48] tell your story uh so i wanted to go up
[57:50] the beaten path a little bit jeff all
[57:51] right tell me about it you know i think
[57:54] about these these live streams and
[57:55] people come here to watch and listen to
[57:57] us about car stuff
[57:59] um but after a while you get a little
[58:01] bit uh tone deaf about things that are
[58:03] going you're talking i'm gonna grab my
[58:05] bottle yeah this guy's talking out on
[58:06] this one yeah i'm just gonna leave um
[58:10] i i kind of wanted to say this as like a
[58:12] positive thing
[58:14] because i think at least in the united
[58:16] states and a lot of people like message
[58:18] us like what the going on with
[58:20] your country and all that and i don't
[58:22] want to get in any of the politics of it
[58:24] um
[58:25] but i think there's a lot of people that
[58:27] are not doing well right now with
[58:28] everything going on and
[58:31] i i see it i see things on both i try to
[58:34] like it's part of doing these videos
[58:35] right you have to connect with a lot of
[58:37] people i can't just go out and trash
[58:39] something because somebody might
[58:42] actually really like that um and it's
[58:44] hard to balance that so you have to you
[58:46] have to watch and be
[58:49] uh no it's not just careful it's it's
[58:51] appreciate the fact that other people do
[58:53] not share the same mindset or feelings
[58:55] as you do so it's kind of trying to
[58:57] understand both sides and it makes you
[58:58] better at talking about things and
[58:59] understanding
[59:01] um
[59:02] so
[59:03] i saw something recently that somebody
[59:05] had sent me on instagram dms
[59:07] and it was like a personal question like
[59:09] what do you think about it and i think i
[59:11] talked to you about this it was uh
[59:14] donald trump jr
[59:16] talking about like all he does is post
[59:18] memes on his instagram profile and i've
[59:19] never seen it before but it was all like
[59:22] basically baiting like teasing the
[59:24] monkeys i thought you know with this
[59:26] much power why would you want to like
[59:28] make people feel even more uncomfortable
[59:30] even know if you didn't do it and that
[59:32] very night
[59:34] it was just on hulu chelsea handler took
[59:36] over uh what's his name jimmy kimmel
[59:38] show
[59:39] holy it was just the opposite it
[59:42] was like taking a piss on the other side
[59:45] like these two polar extremes people
[59:47] that have
[59:48] huge voices
[59:49] huge voices like you're talking to
[59:52] millions of people and you all you want
[59:54] to do
[59:55] is put a wedge between people and
[59:58] it made me think about like how could
[1:00:00] you do this better like how do you find
[1:00:02] a middle ground where you're not just
[1:00:03] pissing people off all the time
[1:00:05] trying to bring people together more and
[1:00:08] like it made me think about my own self
[1:00:09] like the i did when i was younger
[1:00:11] like i didn't give a i didn't think
[1:00:12] about that the fact that you could say
[1:00:14] something it can really bother people or
[1:00:16] hurt people's feelings and you you
[1:00:18] divide like the group and it's like a
[1:00:20] inner circle of fighting and that's what
[1:00:21] the internet's become and
[1:00:23] i i don't know if it's age but i'm i i
[1:00:26] thought about what we're doing how do we
[1:00:28] bring how do you even though this is
[1:00:30] cars i mean cars and technology it's
[1:00:33] like the seemingly most meaningless
[1:00:35] thing but there's clearly people here
[1:00:38] there's people that are interested in
[1:00:39] not only car opinions but other stuff
[1:00:41] there's companies we work with who
[1:00:43] value and respect some of your opinions
[1:00:46] how do you get everybody together where
[1:00:47] you're like trying to
[1:00:49] to learn from them
[1:00:51] learn your stories hear your side of
[1:00:53] while also trying to balance out
[1:00:55] our side and not be hyper biased and
[1:00:57] bring people together and i wish there
[1:01:00] was
[1:01:01] and again it goes back to these
[1:01:02] questions that i get people are looking
[1:01:04] for community i think yeah
[1:01:06] you know a lot of people find community
[1:01:08] there was a interview that i listened to
[1:01:10] recently there's a guy he works for the
[1:01:12] daily show it was
[1:01:14] the comedian's name he was talking about
[1:01:16] going to all these uh like very far
[1:01:18] right um
[1:01:19] the growlies for our former president
[1:01:21] and one of the things he said regardless
[1:01:23] if i agree with him or not i'm not
[1:01:24] trying to get political on this but
[1:01:26] these people are looking for community
[1:01:27] just like people on the far left look
[1:01:29] for community and hopefully
[1:01:32] by doing car stuff or technology people
[1:01:34] can find a community in a more
[1:01:36] constructive way versus
[1:01:38] now you can like you can be on either
[1:01:40] political spectrum yeah yeah and like
[1:01:42] cars and technology and that'll be your
[1:01:44] common ground because if you find common
[1:01:45] ground with someone right you're more
[1:01:47] likely to
[1:01:48] uh
[1:01:50] hopefully view them as a human being
[1:01:52] versus you see something else yeah and
[1:01:53] that's kind of what i was getting at is
[1:01:55] there's there's a level of humanity that
[1:01:57] i feel like is being lost right now and
[1:01:58] all this and even people with a lot
[1:02:01] of power
[1:02:02] and a lot of like influence and there
[1:02:04] there's some really really insanely
[1:02:06] smart people and i know you know this
[1:02:08] and it it's whether you agree or
[1:02:10] disagree i think certain people
[1:02:12] that have this power don't know
[1:02:15] the the actual effect
[1:02:17] or the power they wield and they don't
[1:02:19] know when to shut their mouth like
[1:02:20] literally don't know when they've
[1:02:22] crossed the line where not only are they
[1:02:24] alienating other people but they're also
[1:02:27] like hurting them like hurting
[1:02:30] everybody that's in this community by
[1:02:31] like driving a wedge and i need
[1:02:34] personally that that's what this is
[1:02:35] about i want to try to do a better job
[1:02:37] of being more accessible
[1:02:39] to to teach people and not like make it
[1:02:42] like not posting or all
[1:02:44] over somebody because i don't agree with
[1:02:46] it and i've done a bad job with certain
[1:02:48] cars and certain topics that we discover
[1:02:50] and i don't want it to come across like
[1:02:52] i don't care like i i'm not the i'm not
[1:02:55] a pretentious person i do expect the
[1:02:57] level of quality of course i have high
[1:02:59] expectations that people actually do the
[1:03:01] work and put the effort in with a lot of
[1:03:03] the stuff um but i don't want to be like
[1:03:05] being divisive i will bring up i like
[1:03:08] that there's a nice like angle of just
[1:03:09] some of our crotches in this and this oh
[1:03:10] yeah yeah i mean it's huge
[1:03:13] and part of this is just like trying to
[1:03:15] trying to we got to get more sponsors
[1:03:17] this whole pitch is to get more really
[1:03:19] what my point was is i need sponsorship
[1:03:21] money to get inflated down there and uh
[1:03:23] i need to turn back the clock 20 years
[1:03:25] so i can connect with the new
[1:03:27] demographic that i'm losing out by on by
[1:03:30] aging out jack that's what this really
[1:03:31] was about okay good i mean i've been
[1:03:33] working hard on our rogaine sponsorship
[1:03:35] so what so the question is then game of
[1:03:38] thrones conversation is how do you
[1:03:40] do stuff and even in your own lives how
[1:03:42] do you connect like either at work or
[1:03:45] relationships how do you hear
[1:03:47] and listen to alternating opinions and
[1:03:49] the automatic transmission versus manual
[1:03:51] one is a really good debate because
[1:03:53] there's a lot of people that like hate
[1:03:55] this discussion because it's like
[1:03:57] pitting two groups of enthusiasts
[1:03:58] against each other because the the
[1:04:00] manual crowd like the save the manuals
[1:04:02] thing gets real pretentious about oh god
[1:04:04] if you drive an automatic you're a piece
[1:04:06] of or that that line from the boys
[1:04:09] did you see that the guy's like
[1:04:11] did your brain
[1:04:12] did your stupid brain the id or did
[1:04:15] or you did your idiot brain the
[1:04:16] stupid part of it or something like just
[1:04:18] derogatory that's what people hear when
[1:04:20] you talk about automatics in a bad way
[1:04:22] so like how do you do a better job of
[1:04:24] like trying to just don't speak down to
[1:04:26] people about it or just don't talk about
[1:04:28] it yeah ignore it and get back to the
[1:04:29] car questions perfect all right let's go
[1:04:31] back to the car questions mark
[1:04:33] oh crap
[1:04:35] all right perfect uh
[1:04:37] mergle do
[1:04:39] for ten dollars thank you mergle do i am
[1:04:41] trading in my lexus and it's been
[1:04:43] difficult
[1:04:44] no one has cars to test drive gut
[1:04:46] feeling on these is a d as a daily
[1:04:48] driver gr86 mx5 civic hatch
[1:04:52] i don't know sorry coupe is it a coupe
[1:04:55] no there isn't a coop
[1:04:57] oh
[1:04:59] anyway
[1:05:00] of these cars the gr86 civic hatching
[1:05:03] mx-5 what would you
[1:05:05] buy as a daily driver what are your
[1:05:06] thoughts
[1:05:08] mx5
[1:05:10] is it daily
[1:05:12] isn't that the answer to everything oh
[1:05:14] no it's not in this car yeah oh come on
[1:05:16] that's what everybody said xbox the most
[1:05:17] fun gr86 is in between the civic's the
[1:05:19] least exciting but the most usable i
[1:05:21] mean but what if you can't test drive it
[1:05:23] how do you make that decision
[1:05:25] isn't that asking us yeah okay
[1:05:27] do you agree with that the civic is the
[1:05:29] most usable but probably the least fun
[1:05:31] yeah no you're right
[1:05:32] yeah mx5 is the best recur if you need
[1:05:34] an everyday car then i would just go
[1:05:36] right to the gr86 or the civic and good
[1:05:39] luck finding one yeah that's it's
[1:05:40] vaporware at this point yeah it's 4 20
[1:05:43] today by the way it's it's uh april
[1:05:45] april 20th so the date no anyway if
[1:05:48] you're watching this in rel relation to
[1:05:51] the current time frame we're in yeah
[1:05:52] it's i'm sorry it sucks but yeah the
[1:05:55] gr86 is gonna give you the most fun for
[1:05:57] usability bromated vegetable oil for 20
[1:06:00] that's an amazing name
[1:06:02] i'm surprised that's not copyrighted uh
[1:06:04] thank you gentlemen for bringing sexy
[1:06:06] back to youtube car reviews oh god
[1:06:08] always happy to support any news or
[1:06:10] rumblings on subaru having a
[1:06:13] solution coming to their supply issues
[1:06:16] nope
[1:06:17] no man that's not happening anytime soon
[1:06:19] i think everything that we've heard now
[1:06:20] from like uh manufacturers is it's like
[1:06:23] in the next year yeah middle of now
[1:06:25] middle of 2023 for it to normalize
[1:06:28] that's assuming nothing else happens
[1:06:30] um
[1:06:34] scenery thank you for the ten dollars
[1:06:35] sagan thank you for the ten dollars
[1:06:37] uh lucia de la malta thank you for the
[1:06:41] 10 canadian dollars does it make sense
[1:06:44] to sell gt350 in the current market or
[1:06:47] would you guys hold on to it longer
[1:06:48] she's my baby but i'm
[1:06:50] injured and can rarely drive her anymore
[1:06:52] oh that's tough
[1:06:56] if you have an emotional connection in
[1:06:57] the car then don't sell it i mean unless
[1:06:59] you can't get back into it and drive it
[1:07:01] again i mean if it's a permanent problem
[1:07:03] that you're not going to be able to
[1:07:04] enjoy it anymore that's a hard that's a
[1:07:06] hard thing to tell somebody to keep it
[1:07:07] because it's also a reminder yeah in the
[1:07:09] garage oh hey hey you buddy you
[1:07:12] can't drive me if you can drive it again
[1:07:13] one day and it's within a reasonable
[1:07:15] time frame of a couple months
[1:07:18] you know the problem if you sell it is
[1:07:20] what are you gonna buy yeah that's a
[1:07:22] that's the biggest problem right now
[1:07:23] right i mean
[1:07:25] uh you know you you can get rid of
[1:07:27] something but
[1:07:28] oh it's like the housing thing too you
[1:07:30] could sell something right now you can
[1:07:31] sell your house and make a ton of money
[1:07:32] and they're like oh now i'm gonna
[1:07:33] get bent over on the next one so it's
[1:07:35] kind of like the longer you can hold out
[1:07:38] and see if you can drive it i would i
[1:07:40] would keep that car too louie thank you
[1:07:42] for the five dollars hello from
[1:07:43] schaumburg this is my favorite channel
[1:07:45] what happened to tarbowski thanks guys
[1:07:47] so tarbowsky is still working
[1:07:50] uh i as far as i know he's working as a
[1:07:53] mechanic
[1:07:54] um
[1:07:55] i i have been in recent communication
[1:07:58] with him mostly on text and it's you
[1:08:00] know i mean like
[1:08:02] uh that that's about it honestly i mean
[1:08:04] he's got busy yeah he's got his life i
[1:08:07] got my own and you know he's got his job
[1:08:09] and this has become a job that
[1:08:12] um i think somebody was asking about
[1:08:13] this before and i think i told him on
[1:08:15] patreon like the reality is is scott
[1:08:18] you know his mentality of cars and his
[1:08:20] interest in cars has died off a lot he
[1:08:23] does not like a lot of the direction
[1:08:24] that the stuff is gone
[1:08:26] don't blame them at all i mean honestly
[1:08:28] there's no interest in it it's no
[1:08:29] interest and it's hard to get excited
[1:08:30] about stuff that all you do is work on
[1:08:32] it and then you see the future of like
[1:08:33] oh my god if i'm gonna be doing this job
[1:08:35] in 10 years i can't wait to deal with
[1:08:36] the next so if i bring a new car
[1:08:39] and he's not interested in it and i'm
[1:08:42] making a lot of excuses long story short
[1:08:44] is you know scott
[1:08:45] scott and i how we started this and how
[1:08:48] this evolved isn't the same way that we
[1:08:50] started it and that's just that's just
[1:08:51] it but every every as far as i know
[1:08:53] everything's going good with scott see
[1:08:55] neri thank you for the five dollars
[1:08:57] uh
[1:08:58] chick three n564
[1:09:02] gave us
[1:09:03] 5.69
[1:09:04] here's one gallon of gas from northern
[1:09:07] virginia thank you sir that's
[1:09:09] what's that going to get us will that
[1:09:11] get us a gallon i think i'll get us a
[1:09:12] gallon out here
[1:09:14] yeah what's the premium now i just put i
[1:09:16] put regular in the
[1:09:18] pile that i'm driving in your ferrari in
[1:09:20] my ferrari i can't afford it you put
[1:09:22] leaded yeah i put it in my f8 tribunal
[1:09:25] i went to walmart and got regular oh man
[1:09:29] um i think it's a little over five
[1:09:31] something for regular out here five it's
[1:09:33] like 550 oh that that's right i thought
[1:09:35] i thought you were saying premium is
[1:09:36] five premiums like over six i think oh
[1:09:39] my god it's that much
[1:09:41] oh yeah six that's what i was thinking
[1:09:43] okay six it's six like 50 for premium
[1:09:46] and then uh woodman's was five dollars
[1:09:49] for regular
[1:09:50] um
[1:09:51] hazel green thank you for the 20
[1:09:53] jordan estevo for five dollars
[1:09:57] og
[1:09:59] 55 m2 sports car yes or no you never
[1:10:03] drove that original m2 did you
[1:10:05] you only drove the comp
[1:10:07] yeah i didn't drove the original one two
[1:10:09] the first one was a comp i might have
[1:10:10] driven it at the mama event they might
[1:10:12] have had an m2 out there it's a good car
[1:10:13] man uh
[1:10:15] too
[1:10:16] fast that's too fast i always thought
[1:10:19] as well i mean i got it right this time
[1:10:20] yeah that's too fast had one it got
[1:10:22] totaled recently he had oh no it was
[1:10:24] just the one car i'm thinking of
[1:10:25] somebody else no he had the uh he had
[1:10:27] the ctr then oh that's right this guy's
[1:10:30] like he's just trying to get out of
[1:10:31] these cars and following yeah he
[1:10:33] purposely street parks them or something
[1:10:35] no yeah he pokes them in the middle of a
[1:10:36] highway like oh man this guy can't
[1:10:38] believe this guy t-boned me
[1:10:40] uh no yeah that poor pass if he bought a
[1:10:42] ctr i think he had it for a couple weeks
[1:10:44] and i think he got rear-ended i'm
[1:10:45] surprised he got a ctr
[1:10:47] yeah anyway uh he loved it and uh
[1:10:51] yeah we're talking about a guy that
[1:10:52] nobody knows who the hell we're talking
[1:10:53] about tom thomas from uh
[1:10:56] yeah throttle throttle host yeah he has
[1:10:58] one as well and he loves it allegedly
[1:11:01] so people were asking about what you
[1:11:02] think of throttle house
[1:11:04] they're
[1:11:04] uh i talked to james
[1:11:07] somewhat regularly at like three in the
[1:11:08] morning three in the morning i'm like
[1:11:10] send me pics of your shins
[1:11:12] um
[1:11:14] they're uh karsten is extraordinarily
[1:11:16] talented
[1:11:17] given like how how quickly he has to
[1:11:20] film some of this i'm really
[1:11:21] impressed by them they seem like nice
[1:11:22] guys
[1:11:23] what are your opinions you hate them oh
[1:11:26] well considering my my bone-headed
[1:11:28] conversation earlier i'm going to drive
[1:11:30] a wedge these guys are pieces of
[1:11:33] don't come to america
[1:11:35] okay too many commitments in my country
[1:11:37] you're going to bring your all your
[1:11:38] talent here i'll show you talent
[1:11:40] um
[1:11:44] on w uh for five dollars hey guys what
[1:11:48] are your thoughts on motorcycles as a
[1:11:49] hobby i recently got a yamaha
[1:11:51] access yamaha
[1:11:55] xs rs 700 and absolutely loving it
[1:11:59] i love bikes
[1:12:00] god that would you is that the bot
[1:12:02] answer yeah hey i love i love bikes i
[1:12:05] used to be an adventurer
[1:12:07] let me check your code real quick okay i
[1:12:09] just adjusted motorcycles i've had like
[1:12:11] four four four bikes i still have my
[1:12:14] street triple r i love bikes you're just
[1:12:16] out here
[1:12:17] i'm gonna get run over by somebody and
[1:12:19] there's nowhere to ride
[1:12:21] unless you want to ride in a straight
[1:12:22] line there are a lot of npcs out here a
[1:12:25] lot of npcs
[1:12:27] so i'm going to go back i'm going to
[1:12:28] recover my conversation that i kind of
[1:12:30] botched earlier i didn't have a full
[1:12:31] thought so that's conversation about the
[1:12:33] sienna that i started talking about i
[1:12:35] came out of the drive-thru at walgreens
[1:12:37] with my dad and
[1:12:40] it's just one way out
[1:12:42] you know all you can do is go forward
[1:12:43] and then it cuts over to like a stop
[1:12:45] sign and i'm like go to the right and
[1:12:47] there's a car coming the other way so
[1:12:48] we're like this and then there's a guy
[1:12:50] behind this guy in my lane right in
[1:12:53] front of me so i'm like i stopped there
[1:12:54] because clearly this guy doesn't
[1:12:56] understand that it's a two-lane road and
[1:12:59] he looks at me and pulls up and rolls
[1:13:01] down his window and is swearing at me he
[1:13:03] literally is going off the deep end at
[1:13:06] me because he thought i was going the
[1:13:09] wrong way
[1:13:10] even though i just came out of the
[1:13:11] drive-through which there's a sign there
[1:13:13] for that
[1:13:14] and i'm thinking to myself this guy is
[1:13:15] completely
[1:13:16] ir i mean he's got to get a 10. he's out
[1:13:18] of 10 and he's in the wrong and he
[1:13:20] doesn't even know it i'm sitting here
[1:13:22] thinking my first reaction was like
[1:13:25] like i was actually in an okay mood but
[1:13:27] if i was at the wrong place in time i
[1:13:29] probably would have created a
[1:13:30] provocative situation like sean connery
[1:13:33] and i thought to myself like why is this
[1:13:34] guy getting so amped up when he's so
[1:13:36] wrong
[1:13:37] and
[1:13:38] i'm like i guess
[1:13:40] some part of me wanted to escalate that
[1:13:43] i wanted to like i really wanted to roll
[1:13:45] down the window and be like
[1:13:48] just
[1:13:49] just go off and then and i'm like my
[1:13:51] dad's in the car i'm like because you
[1:13:52] were driving a minivan you watched
[1:13:54] unhinged yeah that's true you're in a
[1:13:56] sienna like russell crowe i mean i don't
[1:13:58] think it would i thought like 100
[1:14:00] because i was in a minivan this guy
[1:14:02] would have just been like just okay this
[1:14:04] guy's got no life i'm not even gonna
[1:14:06] yell at him
[1:14:07] um and there was something else that
[1:14:08] happened right after that it just it's
[1:14:10] the instantaneous anger of people on the
[1:14:12] road even when they're in not like it's
[1:14:15] questionable that they shouldn't be
[1:14:17] angry about it but why is like always
[1:14:19] the first reaction anger
[1:14:22] like i mean i think it's just a base
[1:14:23] human reaction when people get scared or
[1:14:26] they get bothered in any way they go to
[1:14:28] attend for no reason did we talk
[1:14:30] about we i know i brought it up last
[1:14:32] time this last video about carton arcs
[1:14:36] okay so greg my buddy greg he posted on
[1:14:38] our one of our chat things about carton
[1:14:40] arcs and it's this dude who goes in
[1:14:42] parking lots and looks for people that
[1:14:45] left their cart just look it up on
[1:14:46] youtube if you haven't seen it
[1:14:48] this dude goes to parking lots with like
[1:14:50] a wand and like a vest and he looks for
[1:14:52] people that literally do not put their
[1:14:54] cards back in the cart corral or
[1:14:56] whatever you want to call it the cart
[1:14:58] storage leave it right next to their car
[1:15:00] because they're so lazy and then he
[1:15:01] calls them out on the fact that they
[1:15:03] left their card out and i mean obviously
[1:15:05] he only posts the most
[1:15:07] you know ridiculous ones where people go
[1:15:09] off on them but it's unbelievable to me
[1:15:11] that you could go through all these
[1:15:13] videos and see how angry people get one
[1:15:15] of the comments said someone one of the
[1:15:16] videos he got a gun pulled on them i
[1:15:18] didn't see that one i i know nothing
[1:15:21] about what you're talking about okay but
[1:15:22] the immediate reaction is yes he's
[1:15:25] poking the bear which i get right that's
[1:15:27] the only way he'd have views on the
[1:15:28] internet if he was poking the bear but
[1:15:30] the fundamental principle is
[1:15:32] if you're approached by somebody in a
[1:15:34] parking lot that says hey can you return
[1:15:36] your cart i'm gonna put a magnet on your
[1:15:38] car saying that you're a lazy bones he
[1:15:40] calls people lazy bones it's stupid um
[1:15:43] and it's like he's trying to tell them
[1:15:45] by you leaving the cart here somebody
[1:15:47] can't park here or you can damage
[1:15:48] somebody else's property that's that's
[1:15:50] the overwhelming thing other than
[1:15:52] telling people they're lazy for not
[1:15:54] returning the cards and these people
[1:15:55] they do not unders like they literally
[1:15:57] cannot process that thought of a lot of
[1:16:00] the excuses are i pay people i pay to
[1:16:03] shop here they should move the cart
[1:16:04] forward i was i was talking to alex my
[1:16:06] buddy alex about this and nothing new
[1:16:08] carton arts but he was saying like one
[1:16:10] of the societal tests that you're a good
[1:16:11] person or not is you put away your
[1:16:13] shopping cart because you aren't you
[1:16:15] aren't incentivized to put back your
[1:16:16] shopping cart but you're doing it to be
[1:16:18] a good
[1:16:19] just to be a responsible human being and
[1:16:21] people who don't do that or but these
[1:16:23] the the people that are freaking out
[1:16:25] obviously are being pushed to the limit
[1:16:27] right they're they're like being pushed
[1:16:28] to have this reaction more
[1:16:29] idiots to begin with but to the again
[1:16:32] it's about the de-escalation you have
[1:16:33] that choice of like this guy's nuts he's
[1:16:36] actually standing out here with a wand
[1:16:37] and a vest to get me to return my cart
[1:16:39] out of just out of the pure funniness of
[1:16:42] it i'm gonna return my cart and like
[1:16:43] de-escalate it and laugh and then he
[1:16:45] doesn't have any content but the people
[1:16:47] that will literally chase him or create
[1:16:49] like calling the cops or going into the
[1:16:50] store to complain to the manager that
[1:16:52] somebody asked them to put their card
[1:16:53] away it's that
[1:16:54] i i don't think they look at the
[1:16:56] property part like you and i think the
[1:16:58] cart is going to damage a car right just
[1:17:00] the property damage part is enough alone
[1:17:02] to do that but okay you rule that out
[1:17:05] you don't care about other people's
[1:17:06] property what would be the incentive to
[1:17:08] get somebody to return their car in some
[1:17:10] airports they give you like a penny or
[1:17:11] something but wait i mean the little
[1:17:13] trolleys
[1:17:15] do people are
[1:17:16] it's weird like again it's about the car
[1:17:18] part like this dude freaking out about
[1:17:20] me and even though he was in the wrong
[1:17:21] way but he was yelling at me like it's
[1:17:23] the same mentality with people in cars
[1:17:26] do you think cars embolden people to
[1:17:28] become more like i think people forget
[1:17:30] it's like the cars are kind of like the
[1:17:31] internet yeah or in that there's a
[1:17:33] community who said this it's like you
[1:17:34] know if you were if you were in line at
[1:17:37] the store and somebody cut you off or
[1:17:39] you were in an elevator and someone
[1:17:40] bumped in front of you
[1:17:42] you there's no way you would say what do
[1:17:44] you you know what you would in a car you
[1:17:46] want to like flip them off and scream at
[1:17:47] them right that's true cars embolden
[1:17:49] people and i think it's like the
[1:17:50] internet right you think they they think
[1:17:52] they can hide or be shielded by it it's
[1:17:54] that's a good point like and that's some
[1:17:56] of the stuff with the internet that's
[1:17:57] become more prevalent and i thought
[1:17:59] about this today on the way here because
[1:18:00] i really screwed up my point earlier but
[1:18:03] the the the thing with
[1:18:05] um the internet in social media is
[1:18:07] really interesting because it in the
[1:18:09] past i would say when do you think
[1:18:11] social media really was prevalent like
[1:18:13] 15 years in the past 15 years
[1:18:15] realistically when it's become real
[1:18:17] i think the last 10 years is where it's
[1:18:19] just been supercharged okay so 10 years
[1:18:22] you've created a fundamental new global
[1:18:24] language like it really is a new
[1:18:26] language for people they have to learn
[1:18:28] how to not only interact without
[1:18:30] interacting to your point like you could
[1:18:32] not go into the office in a major job
[1:18:35] and get away with saying half the
[1:18:37] that we say on the internet you would be
[1:18:39] without a job there's there's no
[1:18:41] standard for internet like communication
[1:18:44] for a lot of people and it's because
[1:18:46] it's these two separate worlds i feel
[1:18:48] like the car thing is very similar like
[1:18:52] you couldn't go up to somebody in a
[1:18:53] store to your point like if there was
[1:18:54] some lady that like literally walked in
[1:18:56] front of me i would have to have some
[1:18:57] couth about coming up like ma'am you
[1:18:59] just cut me off or a guy it doesn't
[1:19:01] matter i'm not talking about i'm not it
[1:19:03] could be anybody like you literally
[1:19:04] stepped in front of me and took my spot
[1:19:06] you know and that you'd have a normal
[1:19:08] dialogue hopefully where the person
[1:19:09] would be like oh go yourself i'm
[1:19:11] gonna kill you i'm gonna kill your
[1:19:13] family but on the internet or in the
[1:19:15] cars people go from like normal human
[1:19:17] beings to like pure ape like pure
[1:19:21] silverback style and it's just the
[1:19:23] psychology behind it fascinates me and
[1:19:26] also why i was so triggered i was ready
[1:19:28] to turn into an ape with my dad in the
[1:19:30] car you know what i mean like why is it
[1:19:32] so like because you're i don't know man
[1:19:35] anyway back to questions mark
[1:19:37] uh
[1:19:38] oh one of them one of the non-paid
[1:19:40] questions that came up like five times
[1:19:42] is why are you okay with the challenger
[1:19:45] scat pack or whatever the hell the v8
[1:19:47] model is and not the kia stinger
[1:19:52] because the scat pack
[1:19:55] has a v8
[1:19:57] and a zf transmission and double
[1:19:59] wishbone suspension
[1:20:01] uh no that's that's that's a fair
[1:20:03] question the stinger
[1:20:05] i i think fundamentally what bothers me
[1:20:08] about the stinger and i know you will
[1:20:09] probably agree because it's a korean car
[1:20:12] is they took a really great platform
[1:20:15] nerfed it and then tried to over market
[1:20:17] the hell out of it into something that
[1:20:19] it wasn't and then when you drive it
[1:20:21] knowing that they were essentially
[1:20:23] trying to copy a mercedes
[1:20:25] audi bmw to try to become a german car
[1:20:28] and then you drive it and realize it's
[1:20:30] nothing like the german cars that it's
[1:20:31] trying to be it's like a budget
[1:20:33] rear-wheel drive car that doesn't have
[1:20:35] the great dynamics and to be fair the
[1:20:37] scat pack does not
[1:20:39] either but the scat pack
[1:20:41] makes noises it has a great automatic
[1:20:43] transmission
[1:20:45] or you can get it doesn't matter and a
[1:20:46] real manual that's great and you can go
[1:20:49] sideways
[1:20:50] with no electronics hampering your
[1:20:52] driving experience and if there it's a
[1:20:54] real like muscle car feel whereas
[1:20:57] the stinger is hyper confused that it
[1:20:59] was trying to be something it was what
[1:21:01] they were trying to do they were not
[1:21:02] honest about that's why i don't like
[1:21:04] it's not an honest card that doesn't
[1:21:06] mean it's bad because like you can make
[1:21:08] the same argument about like the audi s
[1:21:10] whatever pile it is the copycat
[1:21:13] someone's already answered your question
[1:21:14] for you red wine is fine just said
[1:21:16] because the stinger never won at
[1:21:18] wrestlemania
[1:21:19] [Laughter]
[1:21:20] okay leave it at that
[1:21:23] the the people the people on the
[1:21:24] comments of people watching this are
[1:21:26] infinitely smarter than we are combined
[1:21:29] so now you need to pool your ai like all
[1:21:32] your consciousness i'm gonna upload you
[1:21:33] into the matrix yeah you can answer
[1:21:35] these questions change your code and
[1:21:36] i'll just be as smart as everybody on
[1:21:38] here uh
[1:21:40] alex t for five dollars is someone
[1:21:42] planning to learn manual soon will the
[1:21:44] civic si slash integra be the best daily
[1:21:46] driver option of all things considered
[1:21:48] probably
[1:21:50] i mean i don't know about the integra
[1:21:51] because of the cost excuse me i have a
[1:21:53] business meeting i have to attend to
[1:21:55] answer a couple questions look
[1:21:58] i know you hate me already it's okay
[1:22:02] i'll be back you're gonna meet your mic
[1:22:03] this time no it's not i'm not actually
[1:22:05] going to the toilet
[1:22:08] um
[1:22:09] gideon loveland thank you for your 10
[1:22:12] donation
[1:22:13] i'm going to circle back alex the
[1:22:15] for the five people still watching
[1:22:17] we did a comparison test with all of the
[1:22:21] what's called affordable subcompact cars
[1:22:24] while the si was probably my least
[1:22:26] favorite out of the bunch from a purely
[1:22:29] performance perspective
[1:22:31] you get a lot of car for your money i
[1:22:33] think it's like in the
[1:22:34] mid-27s
[1:22:36] and it comes with everything you could
[1:22:38] possibly want as a daily driver it has a
[1:22:40] good gear box
[1:22:42] in between rev match
[1:22:43] and the fact that the actual pedal box
[1:22:45] and the shifter are great and relatively
[1:22:48] easy to use should be a perfect car to
[1:22:50] learn how to drive manual on and it's a
[1:22:52] car that you will enjoy driving
[1:22:54] um
[1:22:56] gideon again thank you for the ten
[1:22:57] dollars miss am for ten dollars thank
[1:23:00] you guys for your work and please keep
[1:23:03] producing and more instagram posts
[1:23:05] please well mark and i are attempting to
[1:23:07] step up our instagram game for what
[1:23:09] that's worth so we are trying kevin
[1:23:11] pearson for five dollars i'd love to
[1:23:13] know who picks the music for transitions
[1:23:15] in each video so the breakdown of work
[1:23:18] um
[1:23:19] i run the business out of this i deal
[1:23:21] with trying to get cars all of the other
[1:23:23] aspects of this and
[1:23:24] we do some professional work as well
[1:23:26] um and i do most of the filming day in
[1:23:29] and day out for many of the regular cars
[1:23:31] the bigger projects mark and i work on
[1:23:34] together or if it's a project mark is
[1:23:36] particularly passionate about and i
[1:23:37] don't care mark will do it himself the
[1:23:39] editing is all mark so uh the
[1:23:42] transitions are him even though here and
[1:23:44] there i have suggestions
[1:23:46] um
[1:23:49] hectica for five dollars uh
[1:23:52] g20 m340i x drive or 2018 f 80 m3
[1:23:56] assuming the m3 is only five grand more
[1:23:59] m3 dude
[1:24:00] yeah uh the m3 is probably a worse daily
[1:24:04] driver the interior doesn't have all the
[1:24:06] latest toys but the f-80 is a really
[1:24:09] special car and
[1:24:11] you you should not be afraid if you buy
[1:24:14] the f don't buy the f-80 if you're
[1:24:16] worried about putting miles on it
[1:24:18] because the f-80 does have certain value
[1:24:21] at this point in time and i'm sure as
[1:24:23] you pile miles onto it the value will
[1:24:25] plummet but that car is best used day in
[1:24:28] and day out and then you get to enjoy
[1:24:30] the fact that at any moment's notice you
[1:24:32] can turn off your action control and go
[1:24:33] sideways
[1:24:34] uh hazel green thank you for the ten
[1:24:36] dollars dylan for five dollars
[1:24:39] mark anyone uh ever tell you you look
[1:24:42] like maynard james keenan uh i will
[1:24:45] answer that for mark we get that
[1:24:47] question we used to get that comment all
[1:24:49] the time and he looked like one of the
[1:24:50] band members from tool mark and i find
[1:24:52] that very entertaining uh my favorite
[1:24:55] who you look like comment that i've
[1:24:56] gotten from somebody somebody's discount
[1:24:58] markiplier which i appreciate
[1:25:00] um
[1:25:03] kiefer snell for twenty dollars
[1:25:06] did you guys plan out the matching
[1:25:08] colored shirts mark we were asked if we
[1:25:11] planned out our
[1:25:12] oh my god dude
[1:25:15] your that was your business meeting
[1:25:24] oh yeah the sponsor deal i already took
[1:25:27] half the money we made tonight and this
[1:25:29] oh perfect i got you some curlies
[1:25:32] and i got my new badge
[1:25:35] [Laughter]
[1:25:38] they uh we were asked for twenty dollars
[1:25:40] if we planned out our matching fashion
[1:25:42] no see mark doesn't have the pocket
[1:25:43] protector that i have yeah this guy
[1:25:44] always goes pockets and i'm like what
[1:25:46] are you gonna put in that pocket more
[1:25:47] muscle
[1:25:50] that's all right a question
[1:25:52] answered so so have a few curlies jack
[1:25:56] uh no dude i'm going to try to uh
[1:25:57] survive this
[1:25:59] rv sauce how much arby saw should we put
[1:26:02] on
[1:26:03] you know somebody asked me the other day
[1:26:05] could they get extra performance by
[1:26:07] adding like diluting their oil and their
[1:26:09] car with some rb sauce would give you
[1:26:10] that extra traction or not traction but
[1:26:13] extra
[1:26:14] that like a friction modifier
[1:26:16] i'm sorry he's ready for the comments
[1:26:18] someone asked if you've been told that
[1:26:20] uh you look like maynard keane from
[1:26:22] tools no i've never heard no actually
[1:26:24] i've heard that a lot it's because of my
[1:26:26] dumb my bald ass head it didn't used to
[1:26:28] be that way i looked at photos of mark i
[1:26:30] looked at photos when i first met you
[1:26:32] man you had a way stronger hairline back
[1:26:34] then i know like when i was i think 30 i
[1:26:37] still had a pretty strong hairline at 35
[1:26:39] i mean
[1:26:40] i mean my dms from women were probably
[1:26:44] i'd get one every year back then and now
[1:26:47] i don't get one for like 10 years so
[1:26:50] it's clearly
[1:26:51] my testosterone is too much for people
[1:26:53] now uh i said then i told them that god
[1:26:56] what was
[1:26:57] uh one of the bands asian ben from gears
[1:27:00] and gasoline said i looked like discount
[1:27:01] markiplier the first time i met him
[1:27:03] discipline who markiplier the youtube
[1:27:05] guy the half asian like anyway he's he's
[1:27:08] too young for you mark yeah what is he
[1:27:10] like 25 i have no idea these guys you
[1:27:12] know i don't i don't pay attention to
[1:27:13] young kids these days they don't they
[1:27:15] don't know anything and then someone
[1:27:16] said i look like bird person from rick
[1:27:18] and morty
[1:27:20] which i appreciate
[1:27:22] uh dude you're having a curly alright
[1:27:24] what do you say take that big one dude
[1:27:26] these things look like they came out of
[1:27:27] a crematorium that's why they're good
[1:27:30] you see that
[1:27:31] look at this ah
[1:27:34] and no
[1:27:35] we're not cold well they got delivered
[1:27:37] like 20 minutes ago anyway no we're not
[1:27:40] sponsored by arby's okay so we're not
[1:27:43] yet
[1:27:46] that's horrible what
[1:27:48] it's like soggy
[1:27:50] packing peanut covered in like garlic
[1:27:52] and
[1:27:53] what you don't eat i'm shipping back
[1:27:55] your birthday present for next year
[1:27:58] i'm sure it'll look the same
[1:28:00] they'll probably eat it out of the box
[1:28:03] um oh wait wait a second i gotta go back
[1:28:05] to answering these quick look at that
[1:28:08] oh my god look at the art they did on
[1:28:10] the top here with the whipped cream and
[1:28:12] the
[1:28:12] uh whatever fake chocolate sauce it is
[1:28:16] that's that's more impressive than my
[1:28:17] cappuccino this morning
[1:28:19] um hazel green for ten dollars
[1:28:21] 2008 porsche cayman s
[1:28:24] tiptronic versus
[1:28:26] 2010 nissan 370z manual what are your
[1:28:29] thoughts is used car purchase
[1:28:31] what do you start tommy
[1:28:34] tayman from 2008
[1:28:36] good going chief um and a
[1:28:40] versus a 2010 um
[1:28:43] nissan 370z
[1:28:47] i'd probably go 370z i know that's
[1:28:49] sacrilege but
[1:28:51] i think you're going to get you can get
[1:28:52] a lot more into it and a lot more out of
[1:28:54] it just by tinkering around if that's
[1:28:56] what you want to do if you're going to
[1:28:57] leave it alone then cayman
[1:29:00] i hate the 370z
[1:29:02] like i mean people now from
[1:29:04] but he's probably not wrong the
[1:29:06] tiptronic part i can't remember if the
[1:29:08] 2008 was a pdk car or not i think the
[1:29:10] dot 2 was the first pdk
[1:29:12] um
[1:29:13] i wouldn't get a cayman as an automatic
[1:29:15] man if you manual came in versus
[1:29:18] um
[1:29:19] 370z
[1:29:21] i would probably get the game i can't
[1:29:24] believe you do this you have a family to
[1:29:26] worry about
[1:29:28] they're up
[1:29:29] they all left me
[1:29:32] oh yeah they left me
[1:29:33] i i was trying to poison them with my
[1:29:35] arby's and god you know i ordered this
[1:29:38] as like the usual joke and this is
[1:29:40] actually not your dinner and now i'm
[1:29:42] like i feel bad i'm like i don't want it
[1:29:44] to go to waste and it's like choking it
[1:29:45] down every last bite even though i'm
[1:29:48] secretly enjoying it
[1:29:51] um
[1:29:52] all right back to the questions
[1:29:54] uh rick ricky s thank you for the ten
[1:29:57] dollars you guys are amazing are the
[1:29:59] shirts sold on
[1:30:01] redbubble globally legit the merch store
[1:30:04] on your site links to car supply
[1:30:06] warehouse instead so we have two merch
[1:30:08] locations car suppliers warehouses the
[1:30:11] higher end shirts that a portion of all
[1:30:13] of our profits what zero profit actually
[1:30:15] exists um
[1:30:17] what little profit there is goes to
[1:30:19] charity
[1:30:21] um and then redbubble is something we
[1:30:23] made a long time ago so if you want a
[1:30:24] shirt right away go to redbubble
[1:30:26] uh we'll sooner or later um order
[1:30:29] another batch of t-shirts to go to
[1:30:32] carson boy yeah red red bubble is you
[1:30:34] know it is legit it is legit i did
[1:30:36] create it and like what the actual
[1:30:38] margin is like a joke it's like
[1:30:41] i think by the time you convert it from
[1:30:42] australia because it's australian you
[1:30:44] convert from australian dollars to us
[1:30:46] dollars that's like
[1:30:47] a dollar eighty a shirt in terms of
[1:30:49] margin i mean i don't make it i just
[1:30:51] upload the design
[1:30:52] um but the quality of the shirts
[1:30:55] is questionable it's questionable some
[1:30:56] are good some are terrible yeah
[1:30:58] um
[1:31:00] puzzle bunny for five dollars based upon
[1:31:02] your feedback i bought a gti today base
[1:31:04] version of course at my local dealership
[1:31:06] in msrp now msrp no less love how it
[1:31:09] feels thanks
[1:31:11] congrats dude congrats on the new car i
[1:31:13] think you'll really like it was that
[1:31:14] auto or you didn't say either way
[1:31:16] congrats on the new car man yeah enjoy
[1:31:18] it um put new tires on it the all
[1:31:20] seasons are not so great
[1:31:22] oh yeah good point from us doing that
[1:31:25] like it's amazing how that car responds
[1:31:26] to sticky tires so you put some sticky
[1:31:28] tires it gets it gets crazy how good it
[1:31:30] is
[1:31:31] the vaq front diff does a really good
[1:31:33] job traction off by the way or whatever
[1:31:35] stability whatever they call it in that
[1:31:36] car administrator for twenty dollars i
[1:31:38] can see a condom on the right side
[1:31:40] corner of the couch
[1:31:43] which count which
[1:31:44] right side is your side but it might be
[1:31:46] reversed on theirs
[1:31:51] is there really a condom in here i have
[1:31:53] no idea all right anyway moving i mean i
[1:31:54] blew through a box last night oh yeah
[1:31:56] man you're a busy man
[1:31:57] i was just doing that that's my side
[1:31:59] hustles i do inflation tests to make
[1:32:01] sure there's no holes in them and i
[1:32:03] repackage them
[1:32:06] work hey you know you said you told me i
[1:32:08] was technical i should have a technical
[1:32:10] job uh jaya thank you for the five
[1:32:13] dollars buzzy thank you for the two
[1:32:15] dollars
[1:32:16] first fun car purchase new mustang gt or
[1:32:19] 2009 911
[1:32:22] do you want a warranty
[1:32:24] do you not want a warranty first fun car
[1:32:26] yeah oh mustang
[1:32:28] you got to get that out of your system
[1:32:29] man you got to fit you got to figure out
[1:32:31] how to break the car and ruin it and
[1:32:32] then you can go to the 911 that's kind
[1:32:34] of a weird jump though
[1:32:36] oh man i had a mustang now i got a 911.
[1:32:38] uh i had a 15 so an s550 gt premium the
[1:32:42] reason why i can go sideways well is
[1:32:44] because of that car
[1:32:45] [Music]
[1:32:46] and i love the mustang still
[1:32:47] it's a good driving tool even though
[1:32:49] it's like not at the same time yeah it's
[1:32:51] not a great driving tool but it is it's
[1:32:53] not a card that you learn how to drive
[1:32:54] smooth on i think that's the only
[1:32:56] negative part
[1:32:57] now that i'm done with this on w for for
[1:33:00] five dollars
[1:33:01] oh man
[1:33:03] i'll take this off they got enough you
[1:33:04] know like popeye tattoo on my uh they
[1:33:07] promised i i basically i didn't tell you
[1:33:09] i did a brand deal with that okay we're
[1:33:11] getting 13
[1:33:13] for five minutes yes
[1:33:16] i can put three two gallons of gas oh
[1:33:19] one gallon of gas if we split it no i'm
[1:33:21] splitting it 75-25 because you're not
[1:33:23] you've talked talk about that
[1:33:26] i'm sorry
[1:33:28] i'm going to live in a box now uh hon w
[1:33:30] for five dollars uh fun car for mountain
[1:33:33] driving 2019 toyota 86. uh should i sell
[1:33:37] now
[1:33:39] oh he lives in australia i saw these
[1:33:40] prices and i'm like what the up
[1:33:43] sorry hon w re-read your question fun
[1:33:45] car for mountain driving 2019 toyota 86
[1:33:49] should i sell now for 38 000 australian
[1:33:52] and buy a new nd2 highest spec for about
[1:33:54] 50 000 australian
[1:33:56] i live in australia
[1:33:58] you're kidding
[1:34:01] i don't know
[1:34:03] okay would you go from a 20 1986 to an
[1:34:05] nd2 yes
[1:34:07] there you go
[1:34:08] 100 if it's a fun car you will have fun
[1:34:11] in it i promise it's a good car
[1:34:13] um making sure that our mics are still
[1:34:15] good
[1:34:19] perfect
[1:34:23] all right
[1:34:23] they think our our uh our mics are still
[1:34:25] good i'll keep going
[1:34:27] uh
[1:34:29] let's do a shout out
[1:34:31] who's the shout out to to me
[1:34:33] i'm the best no
[1:34:34] shout out to chris yeah chin face is
[1:34:37] doing an excellent job all right chris
[1:34:39] is our moderator you'll see him on uh
[1:34:42] no next friday or no mondays next monday
[1:34:44] the lyric video like how to like a lyric
[1:34:46] video strap yourself in for the ride of
[1:34:48] your life chris will be in it
[1:34:50] it's incredible this is his second so he
[1:34:52] broke the seal on the first well
[1:34:53] actually he's been in he's only going to
[1:34:55] be in cadillac videos though when he
[1:34:56] speaks i'm making sure that he only
[1:34:58] speaks in cadillac videos when i review
[1:35:00] the nursing home edition cadillac he'll
[1:35:02] be there
[1:35:03] i don't think they'll ever have that
[1:35:04] they won't these cars are
[1:35:06] targeted towards a youthful demographic
[1:35:08] like myself 65. what did they say the
[1:35:11] lyric was for me yeah it's actually your
[1:35:12] gym it's the one of the youngest ever
[1:35:14] buying demographics the cadillac is 28
[1:35:18] 13
[1:35:19] 13 yeah all the tickets talk money
[1:35:21] they're targeting tick tock money um
[1:35:25] wallaby joe thank you for the twenty
[1:35:26] dollars wallaby love your videos i think
[1:35:28] you're the best on youtube for cars
[1:35:30] the s2000 review was exceptional in
[1:35:32] particular any chance we can get an e46
[1:35:34] m3 cooper convertible review um i'd love
[1:35:38] to do one
[1:35:39] uh i'm made a mistake of not taking up
[1:35:42] one of the owners earlier he then
[1:35:43] proceeded to modify the e46 into
[1:35:45] oblivion one day i will do an e46 m3
[1:35:48] video and i promise it'll be amazing
[1:35:50] yeah the thing with the e46 stuff is one
[1:35:52] we're not going to be able to get any
[1:35:53] support on it from like x people that
[1:35:55] worked on it the one place uh eag is it
[1:35:59] eag yeah yeah yeah eag um
[1:36:02] even though that sadly the original
[1:36:03] owner passed away his brother took over
[1:36:06] i'd probably reach out to them and get
[1:36:07] some support like they helped us for the
[1:36:08] z4m video yeah i guess that would be
[1:36:10] that would be a way to do support but we
[1:36:12] wouldn't have manufacturer support on
[1:36:13] nope zero
[1:36:15] um
[1:36:16] sean smith any news on the gr corolla
[1:36:18] press drive date into august
[1:36:21] uh thank you for the five dollars by the
[1:36:22] way uh chris
[1:36:25] well maybe
[1:36:26] middle august sometime in august i'm
[1:36:28] pretty sure it's the end august
[1:36:31] by the way
[1:36:32] to reiterate the the plan right now
[1:36:35] barring any financial disaster is i buy
[1:36:37] gr corolla he buys a ctr and then we
[1:36:40] crash them into one another yeah we just
[1:36:42] total them out be like all these cars
[1:36:43] were just defective and then
[1:36:45] have a question mark in the the
[1:36:47] thumbnail where
[1:36:48] i'm grabbing my head in your head and
[1:36:50] i'm like sitting there on the phone
[1:36:51] calling my insurance company in the tow
[1:36:53] trucks in the background and i have six
[1:36:54] million views and then i buy your family
[1:36:58] i become the biggest mogul on the
[1:37:00] internet um chris for seven dollars
[1:37:03] canadian where is dj shrimp scampi i
[1:37:07] thought we were going to be serenaded by
[1:37:08] some nice artisanal beats well
[1:37:12] i said this at the beginning of the live
[1:37:13] stream if you're if you're too uh deaf
[1:37:15] to hear it
[1:37:17] uh
[1:37:18] look he didn't make it
[1:37:21] what more do you want from me dominic
[1:37:24] for five dollars mark in your final
[1:37:25] thoughts the alpha 4c you call it one of
[1:37:27] the most fun rewarding cards you've
[1:37:28] driven in years does that hold up today
[1:37:30] yes
[1:37:31] now mark was bought out by alfa romeo
[1:37:33] they they gave they took him to his
[1:37:35] favorite italian restaurant the olive
[1:37:37] garden
[1:37:38] yeah they they sent over their remember
[1:37:40] that was the only time in the car show
[1:37:42] that i just shook my head and was like
[1:37:44] what the hell is happening they because
[1:37:45] they're the only ones that had like the
[1:37:46] models by their booth by the alpha cars
[1:37:49] and i'm like the girls looked horribly
[1:37:52] uncomfortable
[1:37:53] like because you had all these sweaty
[1:37:55] lonely journalists who finally saw
[1:37:58] in in chin faces word words femoid
[1:38:01] spotted
[1:38:05] poor women no no
[1:38:07] yeah anyway that regardless of that um
[1:38:10] yeah it's a special car i mean it's it's
[1:38:12] highly highly flawed
[1:38:14] one of my one of the more entertaining
[1:38:17] uh podcasts i've listened to had chris
[1:38:19] harris talking about his launch program
[1:38:21] of the four scene how he got thrown out
[1:38:22] of it
[1:38:23] because he made fun of the 4c for having
[1:38:26] uh double wishbone front strut rear he
[1:38:29] said it was like an rc car that you the
[1:38:31] engineers didn't see humor and then they
[1:38:33] kicked them out
[1:38:35] it has really weird stuff i get i get it
[1:38:37] i mean i understand it and the the
[1:38:39] mindset was they
[1:38:41] for what they tried to do with it there
[1:38:43] was not enough room that's the packaging
[1:38:46] same problem so i mean they just sit in
[1:38:47] the front instead it's not a great car
[1:38:51] objectively it's not particularly fast
[1:38:53] in a straight line nor is it like a
[1:38:55] lotus a lease or an exegen it's not as
[1:38:56] good to drive as the lotus elites er
[1:38:58] siege but you really do it's a wonder
[1:39:00] what other carbon tub car can you even
[1:39:02] name
[1:39:03] that was in that price right it doesn't
[1:39:04] exist
[1:39:06] uh
[1:39:07] a lemon 570s yeah right but you know
[1:39:10] what i mean like there was something
[1:39:11] very special about driving that you
[1:39:13] couldn't put your your finger on
[1:39:15] i think it was a lost opportunity not to
[1:39:16] fully develop it but i'm sure they ran
[1:39:18] out of money i would have loved to see a
[1:39:20] manual on that car i could have used it
[1:39:22] yeah i think so i've never actually
[1:39:23] driven one so i'm probably the wrong
[1:39:24] person i think you'd really like it if
[1:39:26] you fit in it
[1:39:28] you'd be like man this thing's horrible
[1:39:29] but it's amazing
[1:39:30] texas are for 28 dollars canadian thank
[1:39:33] you for the 28 canadian i'm a field rep
[1:39:35] for one of the oems in canada i
[1:39:37] appreciate the hell out of the content
[1:39:38] you put out sometimes the interviews and
[1:39:40] materials you share are more insightful
[1:39:41] than the content provided from any
[1:39:44] head office
[1:39:46] well i'm glad that's helpful for you uh
[1:39:48] tech zara and
[1:39:50] you know
[1:39:53] i'm sorry that sometimes your head
[1:39:54] office isn't the most helpful
[1:39:58] i i don't know what it is again it goes
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