In the Gym with Jeff Cavaliere - Google Hangout

[00:05] what's up everybody Jeff Cavalier

[00:06] aex.com uh after a completely miserable

[00:10] time trying to get this thing set up I

[00:11] appreciate

[00:13] and uh en joining me here um we got a

[00:16] few guys on live here in the Google

[00:19] Hangout with us as I like to do I told

[00:22] you a couple weeks back I thought I had

[00:24] the NP for this by now but I was worse

[00:26] today than I was last time we're going

[00:28] to try to do these every once in a while

[00:29] so get a chance to reach out to you guys

[00:32] specifically on team athleen answer some

[00:34] of your questions this time as you can

[00:36] see we actually did it um in the portion

[00:40] of the Xbox

[00:42] so that I can stand up if I have to demo

[00:44] anything uh that you guys have to see

[00:47] and make it a little bit easier to

[00:48] answer questions what's up everybody

[00:50] cavali

[00:53] oh yeah someone's got a echo go all

[00:54] right so so um anyway we got a bunch of

[00:58] guys on with us uh D Miller I look down

[01:01] the line here hey

[01:04] Matt schn Shane Walsh and I thought we

[01:07] had JP on here for a minute but he left

[01:09] he'll probably be back um we're just

[01:12] gonna start taking some of their

[01:13] questions hoping that some of their

[01:15] questions would be some of your

[01:16] questions uh and see what we can cover

[01:19] here in the next 30 45 minutes so with

[01:23] that said I'll start to my left which is

[01:26] Daniel

[01:27] um what's up Daniel what's up how's it

[01:31] going how's it going

[01:34] good so um yeah I just wanted athl xer

[01:39] yeah a couple years now it's worked out

[01:41] really well for me very happy

[01:45] so what's new and exciting what's on

[01:47] your mind uh for today now that you got

[01:48] me here um I'm always uh I'm always

[01:52] looking to switch up meals so I was just

[01:55] wondering um just like wondering like

[01:58] what what you eat in a day like I was

[02:00] wondering if I could ask you like what

[02:02] you ate today

[02:04] exactly today exactly today I want to

[02:07] know um well the funny thing about about

[02:10] me really is I tend to eat the same

[02:12] thing almost every day um and it's

[02:16] something that I actually tell the guys

[02:18] that are following athle X that just

[02:21] because the xfactor meal plan is so

[02:23] diverse and that there's so many options

[02:24] that you can have over lunches and

[02:27] dinners and snacks and all that like

[02:29] generally I think think the easiest way

[02:30] to follow the meal plan is to try to um

[02:33] Zone in on on the the meals that

[02:35] actually work best for you and that

[02:36] could be a lot of reasons it could be

[02:38] availability because we got some guys in

[02:41] the UK and and and and overseas that

[02:43] follow the program that don't have

[02:44] certain things that we offer you know

[02:46] and in the plan so availability price

[02:50] and the last time we spoke Dan you were

[02:51] in college you still in college no I

[02:53] graduated now I'm full-time working so

[02:55] my schedule changed a lot

[02:57] congratulations so you know the in

[03:00] college you know lifestyle could be

[03:01] completely different about you know what

[03:02] what you can afford or can't you know

[03:04] have access to and also what you

[03:06] actually like because just because I put

[03:08] it in a meal plan doesn't mean that it's

[03:09] something that I expect you to all like

[03:11] so we tend to zero in on a few things

[03:14] that we like and then repeat them and

[03:16] for me uh my breakfast always oatmeal um

[03:20] I've made it on on video on um you know

[03:23] on YouTube we have like the pumpkin

[03:25] oatmeal oh yeah I've never tried that

[03:27] one looks good Pam pumpkin um little bit

[03:30] of maple syrup um walnuts you know spr

[03:34] time I mean it doesn't have to be boring

[03:35] you know um I have scrambled egg wipes

[03:39] with Sala and

[03:42] milk

[03:43] um I actually didn't have any midm

[03:46] morning snack because I was up a little

[03:47] bit late this morning um so I had uh

[03:51] lunch this afternoon grilled chicken uh

[03:55] on a whole wheat wrap again lettuce

[03:57] tomato salsa

[03:59] um

[04:00] chabani yogurt well it's actually uh

[04:02] slightly different one but like a Greek

[04:04] yogurt um and then just like a sometimes

[04:08] I'll have like like a diet Snapple or

[04:10] something like that you know just to mix

[04:13] it up from water if I don't always want

[04:14] to have water but I I pound water all

[04:16] day long I gota have at least 100 ounces

[04:19] um mid-afternoon snack I had a protein

[04:21] bar

[04:23] which protein bars do you usually uh

[04:25] stick to um I kind of you know I'm

[04:27] getting bored with a lot of them you

[04:29] they like I'm starting to grow out of my

[04:32] my taste I think for some of the protein

[04:34] bars they all kind of taste like chalk

[04:36] to me nowadays but have you tried a

[04:38] think thin which one think thin no no

[04:44] good they're they're supposedly natural

[04:46] I know um last time we talked you

[04:49] recommended those pure protein protein

[04:51] that's actually the one I had today so I

[04:53] still have the pure protein bars um I

[04:57] also uh try every now and then uh one's

[05:00] called two to one

[05:02] um and I also uh have had the Labrada

[05:07] Cookie Bars which are insane the way

[05:09] they taste they actually they're

[05:11] actually still meet the profile that I

[05:13] like to have in a bar which for the guys

[05:15] that are watching that aren't familiar

[05:16] with that I usually like to zero one on

[05:18] around 280 to 350 calorie range with

[05:23] sugars probably in the 12 you know 12

[05:26] gram or less range and fats if I can

[05:29] keep under 10 I try to keep them under

[05:31] 10 um and protein if I can I really try

[05:34] to aim for about 25 grams of protein in

[05:36] the bar or more okay because you start

[05:38] to see some of the options that are out

[05:39] there you've got super high fat options

[05:43] like 19 20 grams of fat I mean it really

[05:46] is no different side by side with a with

[05:48] a candy bar you know with how much fat

[05:50] is in there and then when you look at

[05:51] the sugar content that's usually high

[05:53] too so there if you I thinky way is one

[05:57] that makes a protein bar and and it's

[06:00] it's literally got like protein a little

[06:02] extra protein it but fat and sugars are

[06:04] the same and I've seen many bars on the

[06:06] market that are supposed to be sold in

[06:08] like vitamin shop that could be side by

[06:10] side with a Milky Way so glorified candy

[06:12] bar yeah exactly I mean just because you

[06:14] have extra protein it doesn't mean

[06:16] that's still not a candy water it is so

[06:19] um so those are what I eat and then

[06:20] tonight I'll have um grilled chicken uh

[06:24] probably pasta you know I I I'll have a

[06:27] you know side of pasta I'll still have

[06:28] sweet potatoes

[06:30] generally I don't double up on my

[06:32] starchy carbs like that but you know at

[06:34] times if I'm training hard I do um and

[06:38] uh and then I always have my star my

[06:39] fiberous carbohydrates too and then

[06:41] later on tonight I'll have um I'll have

[06:44] my rx3 right before I go to bed which

[06:46] I've been locked in on that now for a

[06:48] while yeah so that's that's sort of my

[06:51] thing in between there um I'll be

[06:53] working out tonight probably probably

[06:56] around um right when we're done with

[06:58] this and then then I'll have a I'll have

[07:00] an rx2 after that and I usually wait

[07:02] around an hour before I eat dinner yep I

[07:05] remember that so that's my that's my

[07:08] deal today that probably be the same

[07:09] deal tomorrow

[07:11] on Saturday too

[07:13] or a little or a little goine if you get

[07:16] a little uh lazy on the cooking right

[07:19] right yeah exactly who uh let me move on

[07:22] now to uh uh Hey Seuss hey Seuss can you

[07:27] can you actually ask a question

[07:31] probably not h

[07:36] no on to

[07:39] Matt hey Matt can you hear me yeah I can

[07:41] hear you I got I got something um so I

[07:44] have a a post-workout supplement

[07:46] question I know a lot of other popular

[07:49] uh supplements like that out there they

[07:51] have they're very sugary they got a lot

[07:52] of sugar in them and um looking at

[07:54] accelerator you know you spent a lot of

[07:56] personal time making sure those

[07:57] supplements have exactly what you

[07:59] in them can you talk about why you kind

[08:02] of went that Direction with no sugar I

[08:04] mean some people say sugar have the

[08:06] workout actually a good thing what

[08:08] what's your take on it yeah I mean

[08:11] there's there's a couple reasons I mean

[08:12] number one research shows or showing you

[08:15] more more later more lately that um it's

[08:19] not so important anymore to get carb

[08:21] replenishment so quickly after a workout

[08:24] and a matter of fact carbs an influx of

[08:26] carbs after a workout now they're

[08:28] starting say that it actually in uh it

[08:32] impacts your growth hormone release so

[08:34] the most important thing is going to be

[08:36] protein always you really it's protein

[08:38] is really going to be the most important

[08:40] macronutrient at all times consistently

[08:44] you're always going to want your carbs

[08:45] throughout the whole day like I look at

[08:46] carbohydrates as that you're sustaining

[08:48] fuel you have to have it all day long

[08:50] but I don't think there's ever a time

[08:53] that carbohydrates become a necessity in

[08:55] a given period of time or a given window

[08:58] even pre-workout out I don't look at it

[09:00] that way I think carbohydrates have to

[09:01] be your sustained your sustained fuel um

[09:05] and in doing so we usually try try to

[09:07] choose a lot of the to do that because

[09:10] we don't want to have these blood sugar

[09:12] you know impacts on blood sugar where

[09:14] we're spiking and and

[09:17] right so we want to just get the the

[09:18] more sustained releasing carbohydrates

[09:20] the lower GI carbohydrates and go

[09:22] throughout the day but again the window

[09:25] after the workout is starting to prove

[09:28] to be not so important specifically in

[09:30] terms of carbohydrates

[09:33] because you have a much longer period of

[09:34] time to replenish your muscles it's not

[09:36] like after 45 minutes your muscle say no

[09:38] we can't take any more carbohydrates so

[09:41] protein is a different story though

[09:43] because you want to start that repair

[09:44] process as soon after your workout as

[09:47] you can right you've got a completely

[09:49] different environment in your body when

[09:51] you complete a workout hormonally right

[09:54] so you want what you want to do is make

[09:55] sure that you're feeding into that and

[09:57] providing the protein right then there

[09:59] and that's why whey protein is really

[10:00] the major constituent of rx2 because you

[10:03] want to make sure that we get high

[10:04] quality fast digesting way in there in

[10:07] terms of what it does it allows you to

[10:10] add your own carbohydrates I mean the

[10:12] Cal the caloric uh levels in rx2 are

[10:15] very low like 150 calories so you can

[10:18] put a banana in there I'm not saying

[10:19] that putting carbs into your

[10:20] post-workout is a bad thing but loading

[10:23] up on carbs in your first workout I

[10:25] don't think it's necessary at all so

[10:28] again mostly because of what they're

[10:30] showing now in terms of the impact on

[10:31] growth hormone and your best chance for

[10:35] for optimizing your growth hormone

[10:36] levels is going to be off of a hard

[10:37] intense workout so don't try to do

[10:40] anything that you can to to decrease

[10:42] that you know it's really the only

[10:43] chance you have you know after hard

[10:45] training to to optimize that all right

[10:48] cool make sense yeah absolutely thanks

[10:53] uh we'll get we'll go back around a

[10:54] couple times but we move down hey Shane

[10:57] can you hear me yeah can you hear me I

[10:59] can what's up how's it going I just want

[11:04] to say greetings from Ireland it's a

[11:06] long wayel wow

[11:08] wow nice to have you here what time is

[11:11] it in Ireland it's actually 11:30 at

[11:13] night Jesus you got to go to bed soon I

[11:16] do I actually stayed up for this oh cool

[11:19] well I appreciate it

[11:22] just my question um just with regard to

[11:25] weights choosing a weight when you're

[11:27] doing going from set to set yeah should

[11:29] we be should we be trying to increase

[11:32] the weight on every set or should we

[11:34] always just pick a weight that always

[11:36] lets us fail in that 8 12 rep range even

[11:39] if that means lightening up the weight

[11:42] yeah that's a great question I love that

[11:44] question by the way because

[11:46] it's one of the things that like I try

[11:49] to always get across to um to anybody I

[11:53] train uh any of the athletes I work with

[11:56] you know especially the athletes because

[11:58] athletes get very focused on numbers

[12:00] right you know they're stats driven guys

[12:02] you know they have their stats is how

[12:04] they get paid so they get focused on

[12:05] numbers so it usually carries over right

[12:07] into their their training and with with

[12:12] the specific number like you're not your

[12:13] muscles can't count okay they don't

[12:16] they're not counting and a lot of times

[12:18] what I find we'll do is we'll set a

[12:20] number up in our head and sometimes

[12:21] we're capable of more I don't know if

[12:24] you if you me we've all found this that

[12:26] at times when you're training you have

[12:29] head that 8 to 12 range you get to like

[12:31] you know 12 and you probably could have

[12:34] done a couple extra but you figure well

[12:36] I'm already you know I'm at 12 so I'm

[12:37] done but you kind of short changed

[12:39] yourself of the most the most beneficial

[12:42] reps of that entire set are those last

[12:44] couple and I I've said it before that

[12:47] everything you do in a set is to get you

[12:49] to that last couple but at the same time

[12:52] you don't want to Short change any given

[12:54] rep so I'm actually going to show you

[12:56] something here this is going to be you

[12:58] know the the reason why I was able to

[12:59] get set up in here so if I'm here I just

[13:03] got to try push down as close to me okay

[13:06] if I'm like doing a rep here and I know

[13:08] I gotta get to I know I gotta get to 12

[13:11] or so if I'm going through here did you

[13:14] ever get to the point where you've done

[13:16] a specific rep I'm talking about could

[13:18] be number three okay so I know you can't

[13:20] see my face anymore but it could be like

[13:22] number number three if I'm on number

[13:24] three and I get a really intense

[13:26] contraction like that you're like holy

[13:27] cow I could really feel that my triceps

[13:29] if I do that for the next nine reps

[13:33] there's no way I'm going to be able to

[13:34] finish 12 have you ever have you ever

[13:37] said that to yourself you know I have

[13:39] you really been there you like oh my God

[13:41] that was like really hard I'll never be

[13:43] able to get 12

[13:45] that was a quality rep so if you kept

[13:48] doing quality reps hard you know

[13:51] conscious contraction in the muscle took

[13:53] it all the way as as much as you could

[13:55] felt it exactly where you're supposed to

[13:57] feel it I don't I don't care if you get

[13:59] seven

[14:01] if you get seven that's a great set if

[14:03] you do seven you cannot possibly do the

[14:06] eighth or the ninth or the 10th that's a

[14:08] great set now I had told you that the

[14:11] rep range was 10 to 12 or 8 to 12

[14:14] whatever you want to say so just

[14:16] decrease the weight next set you know

[14:19] because you you know you got seven you

[14:21] gave it everything you had you didn't go

[14:23] because here's the alternative I'm in

[14:25] here I do like I pick a weight I do my

[14:29] fifth rep I'm like wow holy crap that's

[14:31] really hard I'm not gonna be able to get

[14:33] 12 well let me do a couple let me do a

[14:35] couple half-ass reps here like this for

[14:37] okay seven eight nine 10 11 wa and 12

[14:40] there we go got one good rep you know

[14:43] like so you can't count like never never

[14:46] set yourself up for counting because

[14:48] like I said next set just drop the

[14:50] weight down you know go go down one or

[14:53] two placees or whatever it is and try to

[14:55] get try to do your best to fail within

[14:57] that 8 to 12 range but again only if

[15:00] you're giv quality reps

[15:02] and what would you think about bringing

[15:03] in a rest pause

[15:05] great

[15:07] great you can do a rest pause I love I

[15:10] love you know set extending techniques

[15:12] you know you can do rest pause um you

[15:15] could do burnouts so even if you failed

[15:18] at seven so you failed at seven you were

[15:20] hoping to get 12 burn it out a little

[15:22] bit drop it down you know maybe a

[15:25] quarter of the way or a half way if you

[15:27] have to and burn out for a few

[15:29] additional reps remember your muscles

[15:31] are only reacting to

[15:33] what they're feeling the stress that

[15:35] you're putting on them in the workout

[15:37] it's not they're certainly not counting

[15:40] you know yeah they're not thinking I got

[15:42] the 12 and I got enough good reps out so

[15:44] I'm done you know we're only reacting to

[15:47] the stress that you put on them all that

[15:50] than I clear lot up so cool let me go uh

[15:56] down I think we got back um we'll go

[16:00] back to the front and Daniel hey Su you

[16:02] still can't hear us right

[16:05] no um no no all right so I'll go back

[16:09] down to Daniel what's up Daniel what's

[16:12] up so uh I told you I'd be standing up

[16:15] here and get to business oh man yeah

[16:20] okay so what's um what else is that up

[16:22] on your mind that well um I just wanted

[16:25] to give you a little status update so I

[16:29] I finished athleen X1 finished athlan X2

[16:33] finished a a extreme

[16:37] oh man that last one was crazy um I just

[16:40] wonder what's next in store like what's

[16:42] next what's Jeff cooking up I know you

[16:45] got something I knew that I knew this

[16:47] was gonna come I know you got something

[16:49] I knew this would come up um so a lot of

[16:53] guys have been asking which is why I

[16:54] think you know um you're addressing it

[16:57] here you're your repr represent of a lot

[16:59] of the guys I'm representing everyone so

[17:02] we are uh working on something um to

[17:05] come out in the fall it was supposed to

[17:07] come out early this year uh as anybody

[17:10] that knows me whether it was back to the

[17:12] supplements whether it was with ax2

[17:16] that took TNTs two two years to come out

[17:19] you know at the TNT I mean I'm a I'm a

[17:21] perfectionist you know and I think that

[17:24] if there's ways I can make things not

[17:27] just better than what's out there but

[17:29] way better than what's out there then

[17:31] I'm going to take the extra time to do

[17:33] it because I think it's that important

[17:34] to do right because there's a lot of

[17:37] competition in the in the Fitness in the

[17:39] fitness field in Niche right everybody

[17:42] is coming up with the new workouts work

[17:44] out for one day and turn yourself into

[17:46] Mr Olympia you know I mean everybody's

[17:47] got all their their stuff with athl and

[17:49] X I just try to provide you with really

[17:52] effective cool training built on real

[17:55] scientific principles that real guys and

[17:57] guys at the top of the their field are

[17:59] using so what I thought was a cool

[18:03] concept for me would be in NXT which is

[18:06] basically you know a short phrase for

[18:08] next um it's GNA answer the question

[18:11] because the funny thing is the number

[18:13] one question we get from everybody that

[18:16] starts athle X like if you were to look

[18:18] at the whole group of all the guys that

[18:19] have ever joined athl X the number one

[18:21] question we get within in the first week

[18:24] is what do I do when the 90 days are

[18:25] over oh it always makes me laugh because

[18:28] you know they haven't even finished the

[18:30] first 90 days yet you know but I like it

[18:34] because it makes me know that for that

[18:36] guy this is not a short-term thing this

[18:40] is this is a this is a commitment and a

[18:42] lifestyle that he's making that he's

[18:45] like yeah I want to know because I'm in

[18:47] I want to do athl X and then I'm gonna

[18:49] do athl X2 and I want to know what I'm

[18:50] doing so NXT

[18:53] is basically going to be able to take

[18:56] you and always give you that answer

[18:58] what's next because what we're doing is

[19:00] we're going to it's all based off the P

[19:02] all the aing online and how it operates

[19:05] we're basically going to be able to

[19:07] start giving you a lot more control over

[19:11] your path so let's say currently you're

[19:15] way too skinny according to yourself

[19:17] we're going to give you the path of sort

[19:20] of really focusing on bulking up if

[19:23] that's what you want to do and then

[19:25] monthly give you new 30-day blocks of

[19:28] workouts to be able to do that are going

[19:31] to give you some flexibility within that

[19:33] so let's say you want to do a um um we

[19:36] have a new we have some of these already

[19:38] done that's what I've been working on

[19:40] and I've been training my ass off trying

[19:42] to you know put them all together

[19:44] because I don't ever ask you guys to do

[19:45] anything that I don't do myself so I've

[19:48] been doing these phases of training and

[19:50] one of them uh just as a little teaser

[19:53] is uh has got something called a tri X

[19:56] set in there and it's not what you might

[19:58] think think it is it's actually it's

[19:59] actually got a more lifting uh uh you

[20:02] know purpose for it but a tri XX set for

[20:05] example is we're going to take a weight

[20:08] that's 90% over your one rep max now 90%

[20:11] one rep max weight generally can be

[20:13] lifted around five times believe it or

[20:15] not I can so like whatever you think you

[20:18] know your one R Max is on a specific

[20:20] lift you generally can lift about five

[20:22] of those for 90% of that what I want I

[20:25] want to get three of those from you so I

[20:27] let's say a clean let's just say it's a

[20:29] it's just a clean a hang clean when I

[20:31] get three hang cleans right you rest the

[20:34] balance of 30 seconds so if it's if it

[20:37] takes you you know 12 seconds to do that

[20:40] you get an 18 second rest and then you

[20:43] do another three and then you keep doing

[20:45] that until you can't get three anymore

[20:47] until you get two and then you keep

[20:49] doing that until you can't get two

[20:50] anymore you get one and you that's it

[20:53] and that's called a triple X set now

[20:55] that has a a heavy influence in strength

[20:58] training right we're looking we're

[20:59] working on lowend triples and doubles

[21:01] and stuff like that well that's stuff

[21:03] that has never made its way into athl X

[21:05] at this point we haven't done lowend

[21:08] triples or doubles or singles or

[21:09] anything like that well because we're

[21:12] not focused strictly on strength but

[21:15] there are guys out there that want to

[21:17] focus strictly on strength so what NXT

[21:19] is gonna allow us to do is you're gonna

[21:20] be able to choose your path and actually

[21:23] have options to follow and let's say you

[21:25] actually like a month of training that

[21:27] you actually did you can either move on

[21:29] to the other options that are available

[21:30] to you that month for the second month

[21:33] or you can say no I like this I like

[21:36] this style of training at that point

[21:38] it's again very interactive at that

[21:39] point

[21:42] training this way or do you want us to

[21:44] mix up the exercises for you and if you

[21:46] say well you know I liked how it was but

[21:48] I like to get some new new new workouts

[21:51] we'll be able to because the system now

[21:53] knows intelligently we're going to take

[21:56] out this exercise and bring in this one

[21:58] instead because they work the same area

[22:01] so we'll be able to give you a new Fresh

[22:03] look at that same style of training

[22:06] so that's awesome and it's going to be

[22:08] all in the portal and everything too huh

[22:10] all in the portal and we're also going

[22:11] to be adding a lot of social interaction

[22:13] so we're gonna be taking uh areas now

[22:15] where you can communicate with other

[22:16] members within the portal um you'll be

[22:19] able to like upload your own suggestions

[22:22] like let's say you have a um a meal plan

[22:25] suggestion that you you found this

[22:27] really killer recipe that's been working

[22:28] great for you you can upload it so other

[22:31] members can use it and of course we're

[22:33] going to build in sort of you know I

[22:35] always like competition whether it be

[22:38] competition or within the portal if

[22:40] people like your recipe and it gets

[22:42] thumbed up the most and voted on the

[22:43] most we're gonna actually be able to

[22:45] take that and reward you with points

[22:47] that you can then take and cash in on

[22:49] things like future TNTs and and

[22:52] supplements and things like that so

[22:54] they'll be a point a point earning uh

[22:56] system

[22:58] that sounds great man I'm stuff yeah and

[23:01] basically the whole bottom line behind

[23:03] NXT is you'll never have you'll never

[23:06] have that question again like what is

[23:07] next for me because it's all all G to be

[23:09] athlex style training and it's all going

[23:12] to represent the latest of what I'm

[23:14] doing right now because it's all being

[23:18] produced right now so that's the uh

[23:22] that's the concept now where we where

[23:26] the idea was to put it out again this

[23:28] year it wasn't even close like that

[23:30] wasn't even what the concept was

[23:31] originally was just going to be like one

[23:34] one program for everybody to choose from

[23:36] and I was like no that's not good enough

[23:37] I want to make sure we can do it we can

[23:39] get a little bit

[23:42] in the beginning that's everybody should

[23:44] like everyone should be working their

[23:46] way through athl X1 into athl X2 there's

[23:49] a progression there's a specific

[23:51] progression from look you can try to

[23:55] tackle the xt400

[23:58] right out of the box and you're G to

[23:59] drop flat on your face

[24:02] it's a hard challenge if you work your

[24:04] way up though and through there you're

[24:06] preparing yourself and just like you

[24:08] know no athlete has ever gotten to the

[24:10] pros by straight you know straight there

[24:12] unless they're unless they're working

[24:13] their asses off you know in their

[24:15] development at every stage of the way

[24:17] you know very few athletes ever just

[24:20] kind of become a St out the back so we

[24:23] have to build you up there but then at

[24:25] that point you're ready to be able to

[24:28] to Branch off into whatever area

[24:33] so that's the concept

[24:36] that's sweet man I can't wait you got to

[24:38] give me first di since I asked first

[24:42] got

[24:44] back over to Matt all right Matt what's

[24:48] uh what's up next yeah so um I I hate

[24:51] cooking for one anything it takes a lot

[24:53] of work to do I I I just can't stand do

[24:55] it and I I I do use the meal plans um

[24:57] usually when I can but I know you posted

[24:59] a video I don't know when it was but was

[25:02] you know like a mass recipe I I used I

[25:04] make it a lot I call it the Jeff cavaler

[25:06] specials the chicken and the the thing

[25:07] with the tomato and the seasoning or

[25:09] whatever there any chance you'll be able

[25:11] to throw out some more mass cooking

[25:13] recipes like that because it really

[25:14] helps be able just do that on a Monday

[25:16] night and eat the rest of the week yes

[25:19] yes um

[25:21] it's actually the way so I'm fortunate

[25:24] enough to have a wife that cooks for me

[25:26] so uh does not

[25:30] so I I have I have that that huge

[25:33] benefit now everything because again I

[25:37] eat most of the same things most of what

[25:40] she'll do is she'll cook those things

[25:42] like let's say sweet potatoes you know

[25:44] she'll cook it all in one in one batch

[25:47] and then put it in you know freeze it in

[25:49] in all separate Tupperware containers

[25:51] like we must have like a 100 tuffware

[25:53] containers

[25:56] put them all you know like store them

[25:58] allous but when they're all used they're

[26:00] in the freezer full of all you know all

[26:02] these things it it makes her life way

[26:06] easier I mean it probably stinks to day

[26:07] she has to make it all but it makes her

[26:10] life a lot easier because you know every

[26:12] night it's just like you said just

[26:14] taking one out and it's already

[26:16] available so no it's it's how I cook and

[26:19] well it's how the cooking occurs in in

[26:22] this house but uh um you know it's it's

[26:24] I think a way that we could uh continue

[26:27] to give you more options for that I'll

[26:30] uh we'll we'll do that for sure I mean

[26:31] again and that's the kind of thing

[26:33] especially you know um with with the

[26:37] portal or things like with NXT too we'll

[26:39] be able to have people on the Fly you

[26:42] know up upload their new idea about that

[26:44] too know and be able to to share that

[26:48] so cool yeah we'll be definitely working

[26:50] on working on that I mean the concept of

[26:52] in ax2 of the lean meals and the extreme

[26:55] meals um that's kind of a cool concept

[26:58] for us too because um again it sort of

[27:01] takes your Baseline meal and it tweaks

[27:03] it one way or the other uh and we're

[27:06] gonna be adding more of those too as we

[27:08] go

[27:11] nice cool

[27:14] uh

[27:15] Shane is it past your bedtime yet or you

[27:18] still up I'm still here okay

[27:22] question I do actually um my goal right

[27:27] I'm 183 at the minute and I want to get

[27:31] to 195 or like just put on size but I

[27:36] was wondering if it's possible for your

[27:38] scale weight to go up but to be leaner

[27:42] or stay as lean because I've struggled

[27:44] with that in the past

[27:46] so you're saying that your scale weight

[27:49] has gone up but you're still staying

[27:50] lean

[27:52] no I want to I want my scale weight to

[27:55] go up but I want to stay lean as well oh

[27:57] yeah yeah okay no that's definitely

[27:59] possible um I mean I've even put on

[28:04] weight in the last three months or so

[28:07] which is actually kind of tough as you

[28:08] start to get older like me uh but I

[28:12] certainly I haven't sacrificed any of my

[28:15] leanness to do it it's something that

[28:17] I've that I've sort of been determined

[28:20] my entire life to do um I used to be

[28:23] back in in high school probably aund 30

[28:27] pounds you know um so but and I was I

[28:32] was lean skinny as a rail but the idea

[28:35] was the one thing I had back then I

[28:37] remember a guy told me a long time ago I

[28:39] walked into a gym in high school

[28:42] USA Gym in Milford Connecticut and I

[28:44] went in there to go train and the guy

[28:46] that was there probably was like 240

[28:48] pounds and he looked at me and you know

[28:52] he's like oh you got to start eating

[28:53] peanut butter sandwiches and you got to

[28:55] do this you got to do that and he told

[28:56] me how how it's going to happen B go but

[28:58] then his partner says to me kind of

[29:01] pulls me aside he's like don't listen to

[29:03] him he said you got you got definition

[29:06] man because you know at the time I kind

[29:09] of had I had ABS you know I had but I

[29:12] was a skinny little thing you know but

[29:14] um he said well look you either have you

[29:17] gotta have one of two things you either

[29:18] gotta have mass or you gotta you gotta

[29:20] be ripped he said but you can't be in

[29:23] between and I kind of I I kind of

[29:27] understood what he was saying but it

[29:29] didn't mean that I had to be skinny and

[29:31] ripped my whole life you know and I

[29:33] figured yeah just train if you train

[29:36] hard you train right and most of all the

[29:38] thing I was making a mistake about was I

[29:40] was overtraining dramatically and in an

[29:43] attempt to try to push that curve and

[29:45] make it happen faster for me I was

[29:47] overtraining like a bastard I mean every

[29:49] day training and training and training

[29:51] and I I was not allowing myself a chance

[29:53] to recover at all and for a skinny guy

[29:56] that's the big that's the biggest sin

[29:58] that you can make is to overtrain

[30:00] so I started to cut back on my training

[30:03] volumes cut back on my training days

[30:05] increased my intensity though and I

[30:09] started adding muscle and at no point

[30:11] because I always ate clean at no point

[30:14] did I did I ever start trading in you

[30:17] know start bulking up and getting fat at

[30:19] the same time completely disp spell in

[30:21] that myth that you have to get bulky

[30:23] before you can get cut you know do the

[30:25] bulky and cutting phase you definitely

[30:27] don't have to do that so what what's

[30:30] that I was never in at all so yeah it's

[30:34] it's actually it's a waste of time

[30:35] because whatever you might add in bulk

[30:37] you're still going to have to go back

[30:38] and supposed supposedly cut it and when

[30:41] you cut most likely you're going to lose

[30:43] around 90% to 95% of what you put on um

[30:47] the whatever added muscle you had too

[30:49] because it's just too hard to do it and

[30:51] then let's say you get tired of cutting

[30:53] halfway through where does that leave

[30:55] you you like let's say you just kind of

[30:57] fall out of fall out of the training and

[31:01] you're like three cors away through your

[31:03] bulking face well you're just going to

[31:05] stay fat for the you know for a long

[31:07] period of time after that because people

[31:09] realize that the cutting part is a lot

[31:10] harder than the bulking part anybody can

[31:12] eat like a pig but cutting is gonna be a

[31:15] lot harder so if you you cut out halfway

[31:18] through you know par in the pump but if

[31:19] you cut out and you stop working out

[31:21] then you're just left in that bulking

[31:23] phase and you're not going to look very

[31:24] good so um what I would recommend to you

[31:28] is check your training intensity you

[31:31] kind of asked a question related to that

[31:33] before about you know the 8 to 12 rep

[31:35] range and you know and I don't know

[31:37] because I'm not there training with you

[31:39] but if you're counting a lot and

[31:41] thinking that the 8 to 12 is where where

[31:43] you need to be and and if you're really

[31:44] focused on numbers as opposed to what I

[31:46] told you before then really what you're

[31:48] going to want to do um is forget the

[31:52] numbers concentrate on your intensity

[31:54] right give it everything you've got for

[31:57] the short period of time that you're in

[31:58] the gym with athletx to give it

[32:00] everything you've got you'll start to

[32:02] see the addition of muscle because

[32:04] you're giving yourself a stimulus to

[32:06] build without having to change your diet

[32:10] you know to be to bulk up just continue

[32:13] to feed yourself properly you know make

[32:15] sure you're nourishing your muscles that

[32:17] you're training make sure if you're into

[32:19] supplementation that you're

[32:19] supplementing and you're staying

[32:21] consistent and then at the end of the

[32:22] day know that you got a hard workout in

[32:25] that's what's going to add muscle so

[32:27] hard training with the proper nutrition

[32:29] is just going to add muscle you'll never

[32:31] have to worry about adding even a single

[32:32] percent body fat in order to do that

[32:37] all right cool thanks sure

[32:40] um we'll go one more one more time down

[32:42] the down the list here is is is Jes I

[32:46] think he's he's the iPhone guy he's on

[32:48] the iPhone so I don't think he can even

[32:50] hear us right no I don't know about that

[32:52] one goes in and out and oh he say he's

[32:54] here all right so he got a chance let's

[32:55] ask him a question here since I got him

[32:58] right now and then we'll go down the

[33:00] list Jus

[33:04] yeah he's he's gonna type it here I'll

[33:05] read it when he when he can type it in

[33:07] I'll tell you what he can start typing

[33:09] it now we'll go Dan we'll go to your

[33:10] question and then I'll read Jesus's

[33:12] question yeah um I'm re I'm following

[33:14] along with the chat that's on the Google

[33:16] Hangout as well and speaking of myths um

[33:19] one of the guys um from uh Amsterdam

[33:22] actually was asking a question about

[33:24] myths um he said he's 18 and people keep

[33:28] saying that real proper muscle growth

[33:30] starts at the age of 21 while training

[33:34] is that true or is that a lie is that a

[33:36] rumor no that's that's that's got I mean

[33:39] muscle building you all you gotta do is

[33:41] look around at your circle of friends

[33:43] right we've all got that one big friend

[33:45] right who who seemed like he had hit

[33:47] puberty around nine you know right I

[33:50] mean yeah we've all got I remember my

[33:53] you know my friend that was like that

[33:55] and was like you just used to sit there

[33:56] go man how did he get so big so quick or

[33:59] whatever and it's really an individual

[34:01] thing you know there's there's different

[34:03] hormonal environments go you know inside

[34:05] of everybody and that that's largely

[34:08] genetic and um there's also bone

[34:11] structure that's that's obviously

[34:13] largely genetic um doesn't mean that

[34:15] anybody can't craft a a really good-look

[34:19] physique but you know you start your

[34:20] canvas might be different because again

[34:22] from bone structure or from you know

[34:24] from genetics but everybody with hard

[34:26] work can actually take their canvas and

[34:28] maximize it but um no I would say that

[34:31] there's guys that certainly can can

[34:33] flourish in their early teens me I was

[34:36] the opposite I I I was exactly what you

[34:39] were saying there I probably started to

[34:40] hit my stride when I was in college um

[34:43] because I think I might have started

[34:45] high school at 130 like I said and might

[34:47] have finished it around 145 you know so

[34:51] I was able to add a little bit of muscle

[34:54] really college and honestly through my

[34:57] 30s you know still adding it so it's a

[35:00] much slower process but it doesn't

[35:02] matter it's real it's real muscle it's

[35:04] not like this temporary you know um you

[35:08] know here today gone tomorrow type thing

[35:09] because I'm doing something tricky or or

[35:11] or doing something illegal you know that

[35:14] that's why steroids never had an appeal

[35:16] to me because I always felt like I as a

[35:18] young kid I'll admit I sat there and I

[35:20] was like oh man they they do that free

[35:22] or they do that fore and you my father

[35:24] was a medical doctor and he would have

[35:26] killed me if I ever did anything killed

[35:29] me like I could have just moved out you

[35:31] know but I thought to myself even if he

[35:34] wasn't going to kill me if you're

[35:36] telling me that what I'm you know that

[35:39] doing something like that is going to

[35:40] give you temporary gains which you're

[35:43] going to lose most of stop and we know

[35:45] that you can't take that long term

[35:47] because of the health you know problems

[35:49] associated with them what the point you

[35:52] know so just instead just be in it for

[35:54] the long haul and work at it every day

[35:57] a pression

[36:00] um that was a much better route for me

[36:03] and again it doesn't matter where you

[36:05] start to see your development could be

[36:07] early could be in your mid late to team

[36:09] late teenss it could be you still could

[36:11] have some really good growing days ahead

[36:13] of you a lot of great great grown days

[36:14] ahead of you all depending upon you know

[36:17] that but you got to make sure that

[36:18] you're training you know training the

[36:20] right way nice um I think Jesus's

[36:23] comments ready I see it I want to get

[36:26] rid of section fat but I can't I lost

[36:29] about 60 pounds well congratulations

[36:31] that's cool man uh I was doing high

[36:33] intensity interval training got really

[36:35] skinny in the face

[36:38] my

[36:40] well um the issue with belly fat is as

[36:44] they say it's usually the first part

[36:47] that guys gain and it's the last part

[36:50] that that it leaves right so you know

[36:53] and the other way around in terms of our

[36:55] faces it's the first place that we lose

[36:57] fat is in our face now I've got a pretty

[37:00] bony face you know and a lot of it

[37:03] because of the level of my of my

[37:05] leanness so um you know you want to make

[37:09] sure that uh you understand that we have

[37:13] preferential areas that are that we our

[37:15] bodies like to dispose of fat when we

[37:17] are uh cutting and and losing weight

[37:20] what I would say to you is um you know

[37:24] you you still you're not going to get

[37:25] rid of the midsection fat unless you

[37:27] continue doing what you're doing um

[37:31] I I hate the answer but the answer is

[37:33] kind of that you happen to be one of the

[37:35] guys that kind of loses it from your

[37:36] face and ultimately you're going to

[37:39] platel on that so it's going to come

[37:41] down to a point where you lose enough

[37:43] and then that's going to kind of stop

[37:45] from there and you'll continue to resume

[37:46] losing it from the rest of your body

[37:49] wherever you're retaining it again it's

[37:50] something that I have had to deal with

[37:52] myself I I used to have a nice big full

[37:54] face like a you like I was carrying uh

[37:56] like a squirrel you know but as I got as

[38:00] I got leaner you know I got I definitely

[38:02] lost some weight in my face and I've

[38:03] always said to myself I wish I was a

[38:05] little bit had a little bit more

[38:06] underneath my my you know like my cheeks

[38:08] here because it can kind of make my eyes

[38:10] look dark and but you know it's just how

[38:13] it's how I'm made you know and um to me

[38:16] to be lean everywhere else is what's

[38:18] most important so I would say to you

[38:20] it's not like you're going to keep

[38:22] disappearing in your face until it's

[38:23] completely gone so you've lost probably

[38:26] all your lose in your face and if you

[38:27] keep doing your high-intensity training

[38:29] it obviously worked for you you lost 60

[38:31] pounds if you keep doing that you're

[38:33] going to eventually see that that

[38:35] stubborn area the last to go will

[38:37] eventually leave and then you'll be left

[38:39] with a face that you know people have

[38:41] gotten to used to by that point uh and a

[38:44] body that you know you're happy with

[38:49] cool um

[38:52] uh so now let's go down next to Matt

[38:54] again all right um so I'm always someone

[38:57] who's tried a lot of supplements and I

[38:59] know you're critical of that industry so

[39:00] I'm definitely interested in what you

[39:01] have to say y um other than one 3D which

[39:05] I know you hate and I've actually

[39:06] stopped e because of your videos good

[39:09] are there any other supplements that you

[39:10] think if are um if not dangerous at

[39:12] least kind of a waste and and don't

[39:14] really do anything

[39:16] um like I I've been I've tried uh nitric

[39:20] oxide I've tried zma you know for

[39:22] sleeping um some other stuff and it uh

[39:25] tribulus

[39:27] some of that stuff just it doesn't

[39:28] really I'm not a big pro hormone guy uh

[39:31] at all you know I'm not a really big

[39:32] believer in them I don't think it's um

[39:34] something that you really want to be

[39:36] playing around anyway um you know there

[39:41] there have been documented evidence in U

[39:45] in cases of PR hormones actually having

[39:47] a lot of you know dilus effects as well

[39:50] like like 13 diad um and you know

[39:54] they're not as in the rage anymore

[39:55] people don't really talk about it much

[39:57] anymore anyway you know I remember when

[39:58] I grew up that was the big thing and

[40:00] especially came out and said that he was

[40:03] using you know interin Dion that you

[40:05] know he that kind of brought a lot of

[40:07] attention to those too but once we kind

[40:09] got through that phase um you we left

[40:12] with a lot of a lot of similar

[40:13] supplements these days you know a lot of

[40:15] weight proteins a lot of things like you

[40:17] said um um well creatin variations on

[40:21] creatin and zma and uh uh you know other

[40:24] recovery type things and sleep aids and

[40:26] you know my feeling on self Miss has

[40:28] always been

[40:30] you're you know they react differently

[40:33] to every person right you might

[40:35] experience some great benefits from zma

[40:38] where someone else may not my problem

[40:40] comes into just the danger of it if

[40:42] you're gonna start putting in something

[40:44] into supplements like one3 dith and then

[40:48] act like nothing is wrong because you're

[40:50] piling up the money as you sell bottle

[40:52] after bottle after bottle of people but

[40:54] you know evidence strong evidence in

[40:57] actual you know cases where they're

[40:59] linking this directly to the death of

[41:01] people that are using it in cases like

[41:03] that that's just Splat out wrong you

[41:05] know and I I I can't you as you know

[41:07] from that video I did I think it's

[41:09] totally irresponsible the supplement

[41:11] manufacturer um I think it's because

[41:14] don't tell me they don't know that and

[41:16] if you don't know that then you're not

[41:17] researching what you're putting in your

[41:18] supplements so um I just have a real big

[41:23] problem with the with the safety of

[41:25] ingredients if you are putting

[41:27] ingredients in that are not safe now we

[41:29] got a problem if you're putting in

[41:30] ingredients that may not work because

[41:32] for you they didn't work and for someone

[41:34] else they did that's anecdotal then you

[41:37] know and maybe it's working for the

[41:38] other guy for no other reason other than

[41:41] um placebo effect you know maybe he's

[41:44] just loving it you know and he because

[41:46] it changes how he feels about himself

[41:48] but if it changes how he feels and he

[41:49] goes into the gym and trains harder

[41:51] because he feels good about himself he's

[41:53] going to start seeing results because he

[41:55] feels more energetic

[41:56] about himself not just from the

[41:58] supplement but about himself he has a

[42:00] harder workout he gets more results so

[42:02] no to answer your question there's not

[42:04] many other ingredients right now that

[42:06] are on the market that are dangerous um

[42:09] at least not to my knowledge you know um

[42:13] but those are the ones that I have a

[42:15] problem with and all the other things

[42:17] you know again sometimes are out there

[42:19] because they're they're Creative

[42:20] Marketing angles you know new take new

[42:23] spin on something we all know that works

[42:25] anyway you know so it's like well we're

[42:27] going to have this concoction to make it

[42:29] you know even even even better or

[42:31] whatever hey I mean some people will

[42:32] have better results from that some

[42:34] people won't but as long as you're not

[42:36] talking about playing with somebody's

[42:38] Health through your supplements then I

[42:40] don't really think it's a you know it's

[42:42] something that um is all that wrong

[42:44] because there's there's people that are

[42:46] gonna you know that are going to

[42:47] experience different results so okay

[42:50] cool thanks sure

[42:54] um

[42:55] Shane

[42:57] he's still up I'm still here right let

[43:01] your let's get your last one then we'll

[43:02] go like a quick um round table last time

[43:05] through like a like a on line or

[43:07] something like that uh or Parton comment

[43:09] whatever you want and then we'll we'll

[43:10] wrap it up all what do you got Shan

[43:13] um this question is with regards to

[43:15] cheat meals now I can go the whole three

[43:20] months of athx without eating anything

[43:23] bad no problem but what what point would

[43:26] you recommend having one to kind of get

[43:29] that extra energy boost or if you're at

[43:32] a plateau maybe kind of change up your

[43:34] diet a bit yeah it's funny about cheat

[43:37] meals because you know I've always said

[43:40] that let's just you know as long as

[43:41] you're looking at them exactly as you

[43:42] stated it cheap meals as opposed to

[43:44] cheap days um you know that's the main

[43:49] uh that's the main difference um a meal

[43:52] I I've used this analogy a ton of times

[43:55] but I'm going to use it again because I

[43:56] think it really helps to uh

[43:58] conceptualize this you know um a cheap

[44:00] meal um you got to look at the number of

[44:03] meals in a week that you're going to eat

[44:05] and if let's say you're eating five to

[44:06] six times a week right five to six times

[44:08] a day you know you're looking at 35 to

[44:11] 42 meals now if you think that one bad

[44:14] meal if you're locked in on 35 to 42

[44:17] meals and you think that one bad meal

[44:19] that you splurge on is going to undo all

[44:21] of that then you're underestimating how

[44:23] powerful your body is you know it's very

[44:25] resilient just as resilient as it is to

[44:28] building muscle and changing composition

[44:30] it's also resilient to the types of

[44:33] foods that you're eating like it likes

[44:34] to stay in one area that's the whole you

[44:36] know concept of homeostasis it likes to

[44:38] stay as it is so one really fatty meal

[44:43] or one you know really high sugar meal

[44:45] or whatever yes it's going to have an

[44:46] impact on your blood sugar or you know

[44:50] your uh you just sort of the environment

[44:52] in your body for that for that instance

[44:55] but it's not in the whole schem of thing

[44:56] going to do anything and often times

[44:58] what you'll wind up seeing is and even

[45:00] in my own experience that I'll go out to

[45:02] like Michael Jordan's and we'll just eat

[45:05] whatever you know I go up with a group

[45:06] of people we'll eat whatever we want and

[45:09] um you know it you feel like you've

[45:12] eaten badly or poorly and the next day

[45:14] you feel bigger stronger and more ripped

[45:16] than ever you know and like had nothing

[45:19] but grease and and and oil and all that

[45:21] stuff in their in their food a lot of

[45:24] times your body reacts favorably to that

[45:26] because it is it's just like that it's

[45:27] just like a workout it's like a it's

[45:29] like a a temporary shock to your system

[45:32] so you there's a there is potential to

[45:35] fall into a little bit of a status quo

[45:37] of just healthy meals so every now and

[45:40] then a cheap meal that's where the

[45:42] benefits of a cheat meal would come in

[45:44] is that it's just simply a shock to the

[45:46] to the body and a lot of times you're

[45:48] getting nutrients that you aren't really

[45:49] necessarily getting if you're just

[45:50] locked in um could you see great results

[45:53] without ever having a cheat meal of

[45:55] course you could but if you are tempted

[45:58] to have a cheat meal and the ability to

[46:00] stay on the program or fall off of the

[46:02] program is hinging on whether or not you

[46:04] allow yourself to do that then

[46:06] definitely allow yourself to do that

[46:07] because you want to be locked in for the

[46:09] long term and continue to do the

[46:10] workouts you don't want to let your

[46:13] decision to not allow yourself to have a

[46:15] single cheat meal make you fall

[46:17] completely off the wagon and then lose

[46:19] everything no that would never happen no

[46:22] well there you go but I mean you know

[46:23] you can certainly you can certainly have

[46:25] cheat meal without it feeling as if it's

[46:28] um you know that you're undoing

[46:29] everything that you were that you were

[46:31] doing and for that main concept as as I

[46:33] was going with that you know with that

[46:35] analogy a baseball player that bats 40

[46:37] for 42 is going in the Hall of Fame

[46:40] that's a guarantee

[46:42] I don't really know much about baseball

[46:44] we don't really play it here yeah

[46:46] Cricket a cricket player that that that

[46:48] does something like that with the

[46:49] cricket bat is definitely going to be in

[46:51] the cricket Hall of Fame that's in

[46:53] England or I'm in Ireland oh well you

[46:56] don't play what do you play in Ireland

[46:57] soccer only right uh we play hurling

[47:01] ever heard of that one no gck

[47:05] no all right well you know the hurling

[47:06] Hall of Fame

[47:08] there you go

[47:11] um all right cool let me go back to the

[47:12] beginning here we'll go quick down the

[47:15] line Daniel uh Jesus oh he's out all

[47:20] right so um we'll just go Daniel I just

[47:22] had a I just had a quick parting uh

[47:27] statement I guess okay I just wanted I

[47:30] just wanted to say thanks again for

[47:32] having this chat and everything you do

[47:34] on YouTube for free everything like that

[47:37] um I just it it's changed my life so

[47:40] positively like everyone now thinks that

[47:43] I'm like some health freak and that I'm

[47:45] spending so much time like working I'm

[47:46] like I'm only in the gym for half an

[47:48] hour man like people are still like

[47:50] warming up by the time I'm done and like

[47:53] yeah it just like the way your program

[47:55] works in like a lifestyle like me where

[47:57] I have like a ninto five job like it

[47:59] works and it and it fits in well and I I

[48:02] feel like I'm able to like do everything

[48:04] and not it doesn't like change my life

[48:06] it just makes my life better and I got a

[48:08] girlfriend now so she she en it so

[48:12] definitely um I just want to let

[48:14] everyone know that like I love the

[48:17] program it's worked out for me and just

[48:19] stick with it guys and it like I've

[48:22] never hit a plateau it's always uh I'm

[48:25] always growing and getting leaner and

[48:27] everything year round and I just

[48:29] appreciate like everything you do for us

[48:31] Jeff like I I know like you hear it a

[48:33] lot but I just wanted to reiterate that

[48:34] like I really truly appreciate

[48:37] everything yeah no thank you I mean

[48:39] seriously it means a lot and I

[48:40] appreciate your guys appreciating uh

[48:43] what we do and what I do it's like uh

[48:46] you know there's not a there's not a a

[48:47] minute that goes by in a day that I'm

[48:49] not thinking something about athl X or

[48:52] something in some way that I can sort of

[48:55] give you guys something to uh benefit

[48:57] from and you know from the early parts

[49:01] of the week already brainstorming what

[49:03] the what the Friday video is going to be

[49:05] about to you know I mean everything it's

[49:07] just like we try to do um stuff that you

[49:10] guys are going to see that's beneficial

[49:12] but at the bottom line yeah I want you

[49:14] to work hard but I want to give you real

[49:16] stuff I'm not trying to give you um you

[49:20] know the latest trendy crap or the stuff

[49:23] that that people are sort of you know

[49:25] the receiving uh ads and all that like

[49:28] either you want to do it or you don't

[49:29] want to do it you know but I I I it

[49:31] works it definitely works and you're a

[49:33] definitely a testament because uh for

[49:35] those that are watching that don't know

[49:37] I had a chance to talk to Daniel and I

[49:39] haven't talked to him in in two years as

[49:40] I think he said before we got on air but

[49:42] I had a chance to talk to him a couple

[49:44] years ago after a a TNT uh he purchased

[49:47] one of the TNTs from matle X you know

[49:50] and this guy is still here you know and

[49:53] still following everything and and it

[49:55] that's the strongest you know uh

[49:57] Testament that what is going on here in

[50:00] affle X is actually working and works

[50:02] for the Long Haul because if it didn't

[50:04] you wouldn't still be here and you being

[50:06] on this chat I do appreciate it and

[50:07] because as a longtime member um it's

[50:10] guys like you that kind of are the torch

[50:11] bearers all the new guys we have a lot

[50:13] of new guys coming in now and it's the

[50:15] torch Bearer because you you're you

[50:16] inspire the other guys to know what's

[50:18] possible so I appreciate it yeah looking

[50:21] forward to the future everything else

[50:23] you're releasing everything always helps

[50:25] man you always have the newest ideas the

[50:28] best stuff and just thank you again oh

[50:31] you're welcome for to speaking with you

[50:33] sometime soon maybe couple years down

[50:35] the road all right man you got it let's

[50:39] go Matt yeah I'll just say real quick um

[50:42] I I won't name any names but I've done

[50:43] all the other bigger DVD based programs

[50:46] and this is by far the best I've gotten

[50:48] better results in this the last four

[50:49] months in any of those multiple rounds

[50:50] of those programs so looking forward to

[50:52] continuing keep it up great to hear man

[50:55] man appreciate it no seriously and thank

[50:57] you for being part of this

[51:00] and uh Shane the send off in Ireland

[51:04] um yeah I just want to say like

[51:05] obviously the guys had their input but

[51:08] when I first got asley next I was

[51:10] probably the most skeptical person you

[51:12] could see like there was so many

[51:15] programs out there and you just didn't

[51:16] know which one to pick from but I gave

[51:19] it a go did ax1 loved it on my second

[51:22] round of ax2 at the minute and loving

[51:24] that as well and the looks I get in the

[51:27] gym and the questions I asked what are

[51:30] you doing where are you getting it from

[51:33] I did the xt400 there a couple of weeks

[51:35] ago and the amount of questions I was

[51:37] getting after it I was in the puddle of

[51:39] sweat and everyone just wants to go on

[51:42] to it now so I'm promoting your product

[51:45] that's cool I well you know and what's

[51:47] really one of the coolest things about

[51:48] it is you know I'm teasing you here

[51:50] about hurling and everything else but um

[51:53] I I am always fascinated you know about

[51:56] how many guys we have around the world

[51:58] we have people all over the place um

[52:01] that are using athleen X and every day

[52:05] it it's just astounding to me I think

[52:07] it's really really cool I wish at times

[52:09] that I could be a little bit more um a

[52:13] little bit more eurocentric you know

[52:14] where I I am a bit more in tune on a

[52:17] schedule standpoint but here you are

[52:19] doing this you know late at night and

[52:21] you're staying up and I appreciate that

[52:23] and it's like I'm so locked into East

[52:25] Coast mentality here you know outside of

[52:27] New York that I'm always sort of on a on

[52:30] a schedule that conflicts a lot of times

[52:32] with the guys overseas but um you know

[52:36] it's not that I don't appreciate that I

[52:38] appreciate any less what you you're your

[52:39] guys support for what I do so hopefully

[52:42] in the future we'll be able to start

[52:43] timing some of these things a little bit

[52:44] more conducive to your your schedules um

[52:48] as that but just want to make sure it

[52:49] doesn't go understated that your uh your

[52:52] fanship and your your following athex

[52:54] and everything

[52:55] is just as important as everybody here

[52:57] uh in the States because it's it's it's

[52:59] all team athlete and I think it's a I

[53:01] think it's great all right thanks very

[53:03] much thank you all right guys well that

[53:06] uh brings us to the end of this Google

[53:08] Hangout if you didn't have a chance to

[53:10] be part of it um just stay tuned you

[53:12] know over on Facebook we do post the uh

[53:15] when these are occurring so far they

[53:17] haven't been with a lot of um lead time

[53:20] and they certainly haven't been without

[53:21] a few um uh technical difficulties to

[53:24] get we're getting better at so just stay

[53:27] tuned if you aren't already a fan on

[53:29] Facebook you know head over there it's

[53:30] just facebook.com

[53:33] next you can become a fan and we post

[53:35] all kinds of things obviously all the

[53:37] time but we do Post notices of when

[53:38] these Hangouts will be it's my

[53:40] opportunity to get back in touch with

[53:41] you guys uh as fans and give you a

[53:44] chance to ask me questions directly all

[53:46] right but uh I will be back here as I

[53:49] said uh before to Daniel we got another

[53:51] video coming this week uh back here in

[53:54] the Xbox all new stuff all right and in

[53:56] the meantime make sure you check out

[53:58] athlex over at aex.com I'll see you guys

[54:01] back here in a couple days all right all

[54:03] right thanks Jeff all right thanks Jeff

[54:06] see you guys