Porsche 911's Explained! (964,993,996,997,991,992)

[00:00] many say that you really haven't lived

[00:02] until you've owned a Porsche 911 but

[00:05] with so many of them on the road and so

[00:07] many different Generations which one is

[00:09] the best one for you I dig into most of

[00:12] the Porsche 911s for sale today that

[00:14] includes air cooled 91s and the water

[00:17] cooled 911s including the Porsche 996

[00:21] 997 991 and finally the latest Porsche

[00:25] 992 I can tell you I love them all

[00:28] however they each have their Pro and

[00:30] cons and so owning a Porche 911 might be

[00:32] your childhood dream but you need to

[00:34] know exactly what you're getting into so

[00:36] that it does not turn into your

[00:38] childhood nightmare as an adult what we

[00:40] do is if we need that extra push over

[00:43] the cliff you know what we do put it up

[00:45] to 11 exactly so if you think that only

[00:48] a Porche 911 might be in your future

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[00:54] videos coming up really soon and so in

[00:57] no particular order let's start with the

[01:01] yes let's start with the 997 Come a

[01:03] Little Closer ask anybody in the street

[01:05] which one you think is newer and you're

[01:07] going to get answers that you might not

[01:09] expect let's just say the answers will

[01:11] be way off and that's how you know that

[01:14] Porsche did an incredible job with the

[01:16] Porsche

[01:18] 997 in this video I'm going to cover the

[01:20] Porsche 997 why it's so popular what to

[01:23] look for and if it's worth the expense

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[01:33] do so many people think the 997 is the

[01:35] best modern 911 just look at it this is

[01:39] the most porsa looking modern Porsche

[01:42] that Porsche has ever made from every

[01:44] single corner it screams Porsche it

[01:46] looks like a 959 from the front and a

[01:48] proper 911 from the rear now it's

[01:51] interesting that this car is almost

[01:53] exactly the same car as the Porsche 996

[01:56] yet a lot of people love the 997 but

[02:00] hate the 996 and it's essentially the

[02:02] same car yes it's upgraded but those

[02:04] headlights would truly have made this

[02:07] car a favorite of so many it looks like

[02:09] an older 911 and like a newer 911 so

[02:12] driving down the street with this car

[02:13] you really can't tell how old it is

[02:15] whatsoever and I think that my favorite

[02:17] part as far as looks is the rear slope

[02:19] the rear slope on the 997 is a proper

[02:22] 911 you see how the slope goes all the

[02:25] way down past the belt line into the

[02:27] bumper that's exactly what a 911 sh

[02:29] should be it just looks extra aggressive

[02:31] extra 911 now when I talk about looks

[02:34] it's interesting because you see this

[02:35] car in pictures and it looks a lot

[02:37] bigger than the earlier aircooled 911s

[02:39] but this is one of the best things about

[02:41] the Porsche 997 it is sports car size so

[02:44] no extra fat just the perfect Dimensions

[02:46] so this compact size adds to its driver

[02:49] feel now remember that the newer ones

[02:51] got a lot bigger in the outside but they

[02:53] did not get a lot bigger in the inside

[02:55] now when looking at Porsche 997 unlike

[02:57] the earlier aircool 911s you actually

[02:59] have have to be a lot more careful

[03:01] because a lot of what to look for is

[03:03] totally hidden so I'm going to go down

[03:04] the list of the few things to look for

[03:06] on a 997 and the ones that feel like red

[03:09] flag but they're really not oil leaks

[03:11] 997s leak oil but the oil leaks are

[03:14] nothing like they were with the earlier

[03:16] air cooled cars the earlier air cooled

[03:18] cars leaked so much oil that the smell

[03:21] that they give is part of the car's

[03:23] Essence which I kind of like that kind

[03:24] of oil and rubber mixed smell I I love

[03:27] it but on 997s on a hot engine cover

[03:30] when you pull it up you should not smell

[03:32] any oil whatsoever now what a lot of

[03:34] people don't know is that when they look

[03:36] under a 997 it usually looks perfect

[03:39] because those plastic panels that are on

[03:41] the car they hide a multiple of sins

[03:44] they hide dents in the chassis overspray

[03:46] from a repainted car and oil running

[03:48] completely under the entire car a lot of

[03:50] them actually don't have under trays

[03:52] anymore a lot of people just leave them

[03:53] off but if they're missing it's a huge

[03:55] indication of how much the owner cares

[03:57] about the car if he didn't bother to put

[04:00] it back on it's a red flag and it means

[04:02] that the car needs extra inspection

[04:04] moving on to the next one one of the

[04:05] ones that everybody loves to talk about

[04:07] is bore scoring now bore scoring on the

[04:10] m96 and m97 engines is very rare it's

[04:14] also rare on the newer DFI motor but you

[04:16] know how the internet is the first red

[04:18] flag is a black and tail pipe usually on

[04:21] the driver's side but if the car was

[04:22] detailed by a dealer chances are that

[04:24] you won't see it there the easiest way

[04:26] to find out if the car has bore scoring

[04:28] or anything that could be like that is

[04:29] is to get a little Bard scope just like

[04:31] this and it's so simple even a baby

[04:33] could do it you pull out the spark plugs

[04:34] and you stick the little camera down the

[04:36] cylinder wall a lot of them you could

[04:38] even see on your phone it's not a

[04:39] complicated thing now a thing about

[04:41] board scoring I've seen cars with board

[04:43] scoring that they keep driving year

[04:45] after year nothing happens the engine

[04:47] hasn't blown up the owner is enjoying it

[04:49] the owner's tracking it the owner's

[04:51] going to events they just keep driving

[04:53] it's not a big deal So eventually

[04:55] something's going to happen to the motor

[04:56] but

[04:58] 99.999% of the the rebuilds that I'm

[05:00] seeing from board scoring are with board

[05:02] scoring that are very light the car was

[05:05] driving perfectly and the mechanic

[05:07] recommended to have a full engine

[05:09] rebuild to get it addressed now in most

[05:11] cases the owner could have kept on

[05:12] driving for years you will hear a

[05:15] ticking sound if there's issues with the

[05:17] board scoring you will hear it most

[05:18] owners are rebuilding these engines in a

[05:21] panic when the mechanic says listen your

[05:23] engine's bad and you need to go ahead

[05:24] and get it rebuilt it's a tough call

[05:26] especially because I know a lot of

[05:27] Porsche 997s that have b exporing and

[05:30] they just they're dty drivers most

[05:31] people are doing full engine rebuilds

[05:33] when they see a little line in the

[05:35] cylinder walls it's ridiculous moving on

[05:38] to the next point with the Porsche 997

[05:40] there's so much BS on the internet that

[05:42] owners and would be owners are

[05:44] constantly looking or hearing for any

[05:46] little tick any little sound that could

[05:49] be like the engine exploding or

[05:50] something but there is something that

[05:52] can cause concern on the

[05:54] 997.2 with the newer engine you see what

[05:57] most people read is that that car does

[05:59] not have have the IMs but that car is a

[06:01] DFI motor direct fuel injection direct

[06:04] injection which is really stupid because

[06:06] it clogs up the intake so bad that you

[06:08] have to pull it apart and clean it and

[06:10] most people are surprised to learn that

[06:12] direct fuel injection has like a tick at

[06:21] idle like and it's not just the 997 it's

[06:25] all direct fuel injected cars it's just

[06:27] that a lot of cars have a lot of

[06:28] insulation with the plastic covers to

[06:30] quiet down that sound the 97 doesn't

[06:32] have that so you can actually hear it

[06:34] from the outside when the car is idling

[06:35] it's completely normal that's just how

[06:38] the fuel injection is in that car a lot

[06:40] of owners worry that the car is ticking

[06:42] because of boore scoring and it's just

[06:44] the fuel injectors if the injectors on

[06:46] that car are too loud a solid exhaust

[06:48] system fixes most

[06:50] [Music]

[06:52] problems it's a nonissue on to the next

[06:54] point one of the great things about the

[06:56] Porsche 997s is that the owners baby

[06:58] these cars so it's very rare that you're

[07:00] going to find a Porsche 997s with Falcon

[07:03] Tires or with mismatch tires all the way

[07:06] around but that also means is that a lot

[07:08] of owners are throwing too much money

[07:10] into these cars what do I mean full body

[07:12] paint protection films now I get it

[07:15] these paint protection films can be good

[07:17] if you're going to be daily driving the

[07:18] car it kind of saves the paint only a

[07:20] little bit by the way so I wouldn't pay

[07:22] a premium for any car that's had paint

[07:24] protection fil you want to keep your

[07:25] paint perfect to keep the car in a

[07:27] garage that does more than any paint

[07:28] protection film ever will moving on to

[07:30] the next one battery draining these cars

[07:33] all drain battery now you can put a

[07:35] battery cut off on it which a lot of

[07:36] people don't the best thing you can do

[07:38] is put a battery tender on it now what a

[07:40] lot of people don't realize is that if

[07:41] you don't put a battery tender on the

[07:43] Porsche 997 if the car has been parked

[07:46] for a month and the car starts so

[07:48] basically the battery didn't drain the

[07:50] battery is actually at a lower State and

[07:52] you are going to get a lot of warning

[07:54] signs because a lot of sensors are not

[07:56] going to fully fire up and those error

[07:58] codes stay in the computer and you're

[07:59] chasing Gremlins that don't exist make

[08:02] sure that that car gets started up every

[08:03] 2 weeks otherwise you might definitely

[08:05] get warning signs and then the worst

[08:07] thing that you could do it go take it to

[08:08] a mechanic where for sure he's going to

[08:10] help you find something and all it was

[08:12] is just a battery that is going now this

[08:15] is not 997 specifically the same thing

[08:17] happens with the Porsche 928 perhaps

[08:19] even more a lot of people just go ahead

[08:20] and put battery cut offs on that just to

[08:22] not deal with it moving on to the next

[08:24] point one of the good things about the

[08:25] Porsche 97 is that it's OBD2 now for

[08:28] guys that like older Classics OBD2 is

[08:30] like wo you just take a little scanner

[08:32] it actually tells you what's wrong with

[08:34] it so this is great for a lot of

[08:35] different reasons but with the Porche 97

[08:37] OBD2 is not a way to see what the codes

[08:40] are in the car you actually have to take

[08:41] it to a tech where they have a

[08:43] professional scanner that can tell you

[08:45] everything about the car there's a lot

[08:47] of cars that are driving perfect but

[08:48] they have been over revved 12 20 30

[08:51] times and guess what all that

[08:53] information is there recorded on the DME

[08:56] which is great you actually find out

[08:58] more on a PPI than than most earlier

[09:00] Porsches just because they put it in the

[09:02] scanner and you cannot hide anything

[09:04] another great thing is that the miles

[09:05] are recorded on there so unlike early

[09:07] portions which in many cases the miles

[09:09] are because it's so easy to change the

[09:11] miles on those cars on the newer 96 and

[09:13] 97s everything is recorded in the

[09:16] computer so in the Porsche 997

[09:17] specifically a pre- purchase inspection

[09:19] and a set of Records is super important

[09:21] just because you can't tell on that car

[09:23] just by looking at it the best bet is to

[09:25] find a trusted mechanic that you know

[09:27] develop a relationship before buying the

[09:29] car because these cars are getting to

[09:31] such an age now that even if it was

[09:33] running perfect it's going to start

[09:34] having maintenance things that need to

[09:36] get done to it now why is that so

[09:37] important because usually trouble cars

[09:39] are always trouble Cars and Cars that

[09:41] never give trouble usually never give

[09:43] trouble so for example if a car doesn't

[09:44] have board scoring at 90,000 Mi guess

[09:47] what it's probably never going to have

[09:49] board scoring if the car doesn't have

[09:50] IMS issues at 90,000 Mi guess what it's

[09:53] probably never going to have IMS issues

[09:55] now as far as the deals I've learned

[09:57] with 997s what you're really shopping

[09:58] for is condition you're shopping for the

[10:00] history of a car and if the car has been

[10:02] abused or neglected one thing is 100%

[10:06] sure with the 97 whatever you buy this

[10:08] car for jump 3 4 years and you're going

[10:11] to sell it for more so in a way is less

[10:13] expensive than buying a new mini van

[10:15] that drops half its value in 2 3 years

[10:18] so that's why it's super important to

[10:19] get a 997 in the best condition possible

[10:22] because if you do happen to sell the car

[10:24] and most people actually do eventually

[10:26] because we're not on this planet forever

[10:27] whatever money you put into that car you

[10:29] pull it right back out so resale is a

[10:31] huge part of the 997 appe it sells fast

[10:34] and the prices keep going up they

[10:36] haven't achieved 993 levels yet but a

[10:38] lot of people are already saying that

[10:39] the 997 is the next 993 and judging by

[10:43] the way that the prices keep going up

[10:44] it's entirely possible so it makes no

[10:46] sense to try to get a deal on a Porche

[10:48] 97 because that deal is going to cost

[10:51] you more when you go ahead and you

[10:52] resell that car so on a Porche 997 it's

[10:55] okay to splurge to spend just a little

[10:57] bit more on the one that you really like

[10:59] because at the end of the day you'll

[11:01] always get your money back on that car

[11:02] so are you really splurging or are you

[11:04] being smart so that's the way that I

[11:06] feel about the Porsche 97 Porsche 911

[11:10] 9996 let me start by saying that Porsche

[11:12] would love to have another 996 now on

[11:16] this video I'm going to explain the

[11:17] market on this car and the prices why

[11:19] they are what they are let's look at the

[11:21] actual car versus the market first when

[11:23] the 996 came out the 996 was bigger than

[11:26] the 993 but it was lighter it wasn't

[11:28] just bigger it was also faster lighter

[11:30] and most importantly the structure was

[11:32] stiffer a lot stiffer as a matter of

[11:34] fact the handling advantages of the 996

[11:37] versus the 993 come from the increased

[11:39] wheelbase and most importantly the

[11:41] stiffer structure the structure of the

[11:43] 996 is essentially the same one in the

[11:45] 997 they are essentially the same car

[11:48] the 997 is a refined 996 you wouldn't

[11:51] know that by looking at these huged car

[11:53] prices let's see what's going on looking

[11:54] at the car as far as the quality of the

[11:56] car 996 versus a car replaced the the

[11:59] Porsche 993 well I've got some thoughts

[12:01] on it that are very different than

[12:03] anything that you read online these cars

[12:06] are all getting old now so basically

[12:07] every single one of these used cars are

[12:09] going to need some kind of restoration

[12:11] unless you're buying them in low mile

[12:12] unbelievable condition so the first

[12:14] thought that comes up with any classic

[12:15] car is restoration what are you going to

[12:17] do to the car and most importantly how

[12:19] has the car held up over time how has

[12:21] the car held up has it disintegrated in

[12:23] the elements in the weather or is it

[12:25] holding up is a true test of the quality

[12:27] of the car let's look at some specific

[12:29] earlier air cooled 911s versus this new

[12:32] 996 let's start with the interiors that

[12:34] seems to be the main complaint about the

[12:36] Porsche 996 that the Interiors are very

[12:39] plastically and just not up to the same

[12:41] quality of the earlier aircool 911 that

[12:43] is BS with a few asterids let me explain

[12:46] this one the dashboard on the earlier

[12:48] aircool 911s all crack eventually it

[12:51] uses the same material that the Porsche

[12:53] 944 used and 968 and the Porsche 928

[12:58] given enough time and parked outside in

[12:59] the sun those dashboards crack 996s nope

[13:03] those plastic dashboards on the 996s

[13:05] even though the rake on the windshield

[13:07] is far more so it gets more sun they do

[13:09] not crack as a matter of fact if you

[13:11] look up online comparing the price of a

[13:13] 996 dashboard versus a 993 dashboard

[13:16] it's night and day and the only ones

[13:17] that do go bad are the leather WRA ones

[13:19] but every single other leather WRA

[13:21] dashboard goes bad not a symptom of the

[13:23] quality of the dashboard is just the

[13:24] leather so as far as the Plastics in the

[13:26] earlier 911s versus the later 96

[13:28] Generations if we're going to measure

[13:30] perceived versus actual actual quality

[13:32] is actually higher in the 996 is

[13:34] Plastics versus the earlier air cool 991

[13:37] cars so why the outrage on the 996 is

[13:39] interior well there's just more plastic

[13:42] more plastic than there was in the

[13:43] earlier cars plastic is not good at the

[13:45] end of the day nobody wants plastic in

[13:46] their cars which that all changed by the

[13:48] way in the Porsche 996 turbo those came

[13:51] with standard leather rep dashboard you

[13:53] sit in a 996 turbo versus a standard

[13:55] Carrera and you'll see the difference

[13:56] but the standard ones are fantastic

[13:58] because they last far better than the

[14:01] earlier aircool 911 dashboards 928

[14:03] dashboards 944 dashboards and 968

[14:06] dashboards and of course the 924 let's

[14:08] look at the rest of the Interior what it

[14:09] would cost to restore a 996 versus an

[14:12] earlier car the seats if you got to

[14:14] replace worn leather on a por 996

[14:16] interior you can pick from 996 seats

[14:18] boxer seats and the newer generation 997

[14:20] seats they bolt on another thing that

[14:22] these cars suffered from as a matter of

[14:24] fact a lot of BMWs too BMWs Ferraris

[14:27] Austin Martin are sticky buttons on

[14:29] radios like this this radio is a

[14:31] standard radio that came in most 996s

[14:34] and 986s the Becker unit what's the

[14:36] biggest complain about these radios that

[14:38] they're not up to the same quality of

[14:39] the earlier ones the buttons you wipe

[14:41] them down with alcohol and put them back

[14:43] you don't have to worry about it again

[14:44] yet when you sit inside the car you go

[14:45] to turn on the radio your impression is

[14:47] of a sticky interior just because you

[14:49] touched this little thing ridiculous I

[14:51] would be far more concerned about a

[14:53] cracked dashboard or seats that are

[14:55] super expensive to repair the little

[14:56] plastic parts this is not the argument

[14:58] that you're going to find find anywhere

[14:59] when you talk about this car the first

[15:01] thing you're going to hear is that the

[15:02] interior is not up to the same level as

[15:04] before let's move on to the body you

[15:05] don't have to worry about rust with

[15:07] anything from the 996 and up unless it's

[15:09] been crashed and improperly repaired

[15:11] rust is just not a big factor in the

[15:13] body of these newer cars these cars are

[15:15] not getting younger they're getting

[15:16] older and rust it starts becoming a main

[15:18] concern you don't have to worry about

[15:19] any of that with the Porsche 96 and up

[15:21] it's something less of a headache the

[15:23] body is as good as it get and as as good

[15:25] as Porsche has made the cost to restore

[15:28] these cars are far less than the earlier

[15:30] aircool 911s but the perception of lower

[15:32] quality sticks around like it never goes

[15:35] away it's ridiculous now living in Miami

[15:37] has definitely affected how I feel about

[15:40] cars in general what happened here is

[15:41] very similar to what happened all over

[15:43] the world when the pora 996 came out

[15:45] remember that Porsche replaced the

[15:47] freshly restyled 993 with the 996 the

[15:50] 993 was only about 3 years old when the

[15:52] 996 came out and the 996 completely

[15:54] outsold that car for his entire

[15:56] generation and that unbelievable amount

[15:58] of success for Porsche is the 96's

[16:00] biggest problem today let's see exactly

[16:03] how successful that car was for

[16:05] comparison purposes let's compare the

[16:06] porsa 996 to other Porsches the Porsche

[16:09] 928 from 1977 to 1995 sold only 61,000

[16:13] cars all over the world that was it the

[16:16] other cross up that you would have is

[16:17] the Porsche 993 well the Porsche 993

[16:20] from 1993 to 98 they sold 68,000 cars

[16:24] 68,000 cars guess how many Porsche 996

[16:27] is Porsche sold from 98 to to 2005 it

[16:29] sold

[16:32] 175,000 cars that is even more cars than

[16:35] the 944 sold from 1982 to 1991 they did

[16:39] 163,000 cars and that was supposed to be

[16:42] the entry level Porsche this more

[16:43] expensive 996 out sold all of those

[16:45] controversial mm I don't think so if it

[16:48] would have been so controversial it

[16:49] would not have sold in the numbers that

[16:50] have sold if Porscha was giving a

[16:52] bargain if pora was giving a deal well

[16:53] then perhaps that could be controversial

[16:55] at out sold but no it didn't they were

[16:56] charging full prices for these Cars Plus

[16:59] on and so the market was flooded with

[17:00] these cars now it's easy to forget how

[17:02] many of these cars were sold if you look

[17:04] at options like this you see a series of

[17:06] 996 cars a series of 993 997 cars right

[17:10] next to it and you think why is the 996

[17:12] so much less expensive if you see these

[17:15] sales you're only seeing a static

[17:17] picture of what has sold you're not

[17:18] seeing the backlog a huge pool of cars

[17:21] that are coming in and out of the market

[17:22] all the time and bring a trailer in the

[17:24] same amount of time that the 993 sold

[17:26] about 500 cars almost 999 96 were sold

[17:29] that doesn't even begin to give you an

[17:32] entire picture of all the other cars

[17:33] that are setting in the used car market

[17:35] cuz remember bring a Trader is just a

[17:36] very small Niche that is the biggest

[17:38] reason that these cars prices are a deal

[17:40] it is simple supply and demand the more

[17:43] cars on the market the price goes down

[17:44] it was Porsche's most successful Porsche

[17:47] 911 it is a victim of its own success

[17:50] there is more these cars available now

[17:52] to purchase then 993s 997s 928s 968 for

[17:56] sure and so the prices hav climbed how

[17:59] they have with these other cars got

[18:00] nothing to do with the styling of these

[18:02] cars with the headlights it's got

[18:04] nothing to do with that if that were

[18:05] true the 996 GT3 and 996 turbo will be

[18:08] selling for peanuts they're not those

[18:10] cars sell out a premium even with the

[18:11] headlights these headlights are already

[18:13] becoming cool the Simplicity it's pure

[18:15] classic Porsche no one ever says a bad

[18:18] word about these style headlights when

[18:20] they're on a GT1 the good thing about

[18:22] these cars is that the prices have

[18:23] already stabilized as a matter of fact

[18:24] the prices are actually going up high

[18:26] quality condition 996 is are selling

[18:28] already for more than higher mileage 997

[18:31] these are essentially the same car the

[18:32] engine cost about the same that it cost

[18:34] air cooled 911s to rebuild the Interiors

[18:36] are cheaper to redo and the body you

[18:37] won't have to worry so much about rust

[18:39] with these cars versus the earlier 911s

[18:41] it's a win-win for these cars now if

[18:42] you're looking to flip it for double or

[18:44] triple like some other used car classic

[18:46] you might be out of luck with this car

[18:47] but if you're looking to buy and hold on

[18:49] for a while enjoy it in the meantime

[18:51] this definitely is the car for you

[18:52] imagine a machine that Roars to life a

[18:55] machine that completely defies limits

[18:57] and a legacy that races Through Time all

[19:00] encapsulated in the Ferocious Porsche

[19:03] 991 welcome ferow Thrill Seekers to the

[19:06] world where curves and straightaways

[19:08] become your canvas and the Porsche 991

[19:11] is your paintbrush inside the cockpit

[19:14] you're not just a driver you are a

[19:16] warrior a commander of torque and

[19:18] horsepower almost perfect well in this

[19:22] video I'm going to cover the Porsche 911

[19:24] 991 years 2011 to 2019 if you are a

[19:29] buyer or you already own a Porsche 911

[19:32] this video is for you wo but first

[19:34] enough with the windows shopping hit the

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[19:40] Porsche enthusiasts let's go most

[19:43] Porsche 91's now are coming out a

[19:45] warranty and so one of the biggest

[19:47] questions that most people possibly have

[19:48] to themselves is is it reliable well if

[19:51] we're looking at the engine and

[19:53] transmission they have already proven to

[19:55] be a rock solid how Rock Solid the 9 A1

[19:58] engine in the Porsche 991 is the same

[20:01] engine that is in the Porsche 997.2 and

[20:04] guess what the 997.2 go for a huge

[20:07] premium and the main reason that they go

[20:10] for a premium is because of that engine

[20:12] knowing a lot of Porsche shop owners

[20:14] here in Miami universally every single

[20:16] one of them praises the Porsche 991 is

[20:19] the most trouble-free 911 that Porsche

[20:21] has ever made I know a lot of 997.2 with

[20:24] over 200,000 mies and they are daily

[20:27] driven and they are perfect so if that's

[20:29] any indication of the Mechanicals of

[20:31] these cars they are a go except for a

[20:34] couple little things that are not really

[20:36] engine related they're accessory related

[20:38] for example the water pump can give

[20:40] issues some people have had to replace

[20:41] them at 30,000 Mi some at 40,000 Mi and

[20:44] some never but I wouldn't consider that

[20:46] engine related even those attached to

[20:48] the engine those are accessories and

[20:49] they're also maintenance items you're

[20:51] going to have to replace a water pump

[20:52] anyways eventually and they're not that

[20:55] expensive the only thing bad about the

[20:56] Porche 91's engine is that you can't see

[20:58] it but you can definitely hear

[21:02] it the Porsche 991 is a very very

[21:06] different car than any earlier Porsche

[21:08] 911 it's far more comfortable and far

[21:10] more daily drivable than earlier cars to

[21:13] the point where on the highway with a

[21:15] suspension softened up and the exhaust

[21:17] toned down it's a cruiser you can

[21:19] definitely do 5 600 m per day on a

[21:21] Porche 991 which is very similar to the

[21:23] Porche 928 by the way so I can see where

[21:25] the comparisons come from but

[21:26] longdistance Comfort is where the

[21:29] similarities end the Porche 991 is as

[21:31] hardcore as it gets and as a matter of

[21:33] fact it's a lot sharper than virtually

[21:36] every single earlier 911 except for the

[21:38] GT cars so it is most definitely not a

[21:41] grand tour so the Dual nature of the

[21:43] Porche 991 means that more people are

[21:46] looking at this Porsche 911 than

[21:48] virtually any other Porsche 911 in its

[21:50] history and it's been very popular for

[21:52] Porsche but it's not just that the car

[21:55] is more accessible it's not that at all

[21:57] there are huge Advan ments in the

[21:59] Porsche 991s that you do not see just by

[22:02] looking at it the structure on the

[22:04] Porsche 991 is completely different than

[22:06] the 997s this structure is bigger but

[22:09] also lighter and stiffer an ultra rare

[22:12] thing in cars today where everything

[22:14] keeps getting more and more bloated that

[22:16] didn't happen with the 991 it actually

[22:18] got lighter stiffer and yes a little bit

[22:20] bigger mainly in the track for better

[22:22] handling and stability so the structures

[22:24] of these Porsche 991s are rock solid and

[22:27] I can see the structure of these Porche

[22:29] n1s outlasting the owners easily and

[22:32] that's what you have in the Porche nn1 a

[22:34] Porsche that's going to last several

[22:35] decades Interiors this is something that

[22:38] has been universally praised on the

[22:40] Porche 91 the quality of the materials

[22:43] in the interior now there is a big

[22:44] difference between perceived quality and

[22:47] actual quality because plastic is

[22:49] plastic but what is far more impressive

[22:52] in the Porsche 991 is the leather

[22:55] interiors because usually leather

[22:57] interiors are a a liability for the

[23:00] second or third or fourth owner leather

[23:02] interiors specifically leather

[23:04] dashboards look great for a couple years

[23:06] until inevitably the leather starts

[23:08] shrinking it starts warping and the

[23:10] interior starts looking like a mess and

[23:13] this happens with most manufacturers

[23:15] that have full leather interiors but

[23:17] this is not happening with the Porsche

[23:19] 991 leather's leather right wait till

[23:22] you see this usually when you have

[23:24] leather bonded to plastic one of two

[23:26] things happens the leather shrinks and

[23:28] the adhesive that is connecting it to

[23:30] the plastic is not strong enough to hold

[23:32] the actual leather and so the leather

[23:33] pulls away the other thing is the actual

[23:36] adhesive itself the glue breaks down and

[23:38] loses all its strength it's not just the

[23:41] heat you see when the Plastics heat up

[23:43] they gas out and those gases the new car

[23:46] smell start breaking down the glue and

[23:48] so every single manufacturer is bonding

[23:50] their Leathers directly to that plastic

[23:53] so what did Porsche do they remove all

[23:55] the plastic on these 991 dashboards it

[23:58] looks like like this there is just the

[23:59] ever foam and the leather directly

[24:01] mounted to the Top This is how custom

[24:03] hot rods are built out in California and

[24:05] it's usually not cheap so with the

[24:07] portion 991 specifically full leather

[24:09] interiors are totally worth it so this

[24:11] new method of construction is the reason

[24:14] that the leather dashboards on the

[24:16] Porche n1's are holding up a whole lot

[24:19] better than anything that came before it

[24:21] now it's not all perfect the door panels

[24:24] to warp in the heat now if you're coming

[24:26] from a classic Porsche and you see this

[24:28] you're like who cares but if you've

[24:30] never done any kind of restoration once

[24:32] you see the door panel separating it can

[24:34] be a little bit alarming and it might

[24:36] make you think that there's something

[24:37] wrong with the car this can easily be

[24:39] fixed with some glue a heat gun and a

[24:41] couple clamps it's not a big deal it's

[24:43] kind of like first world problems

[24:45] considering what you're getting with the

[24:46] Porsche 9n1 size versus the earlier

[24:50] Porsche 911s another reason why Porsche

[24:52] enthusiasts say that 991 is more of a

[24:55] tour is because it's grown and it's so

[24:57] much bigger than the earlier 911s hold

[24:59] on just a second it's only a few inches

[25:02] bigger it's still a very small car for

[25:04] comparison I think that we all can agree

[25:06] that the Porsche 993 is a tiny car not

[25:10] that much bigger and we also can agree

[25:12] that the Porsche 997 is also a very

[25:15] small car you see the reason the Porche

[25:17] 911 looks bigger is mainly because of

[25:19] the higher belt line that also spans

[25:21] into the rear bumper makes it look a lot

[25:23] bigger than what it really is so the

[25:25] optical illusion of the raised Belt Line

[25:27] and the lower roof does make it look a

[25:29] lot bigger if it's by itself but the

[25:32] moment that you park it next to any

[25:33] other car you see the Porche 991 is

[25:36] still the size of a real sports car

[25:39] ceramic versus steel brakes when you

[25:41] search ceramic brakes online you're

[25:43] going to get two polar opposite opinions

[25:46] some people say it's worth it and some

[25:47] people say the breaking is worse in the

[25:49] cold and some people have sold their

[25:51] cars because of the ceramic brakes this

[25:54] is crazy most of the ceramic brakes that

[25:56] I've seen that drive not so good as in

[25:59] the car really doesn't have brake Feld

[26:00] when it's cold is because it doesn't

[26:02] have the OEM pads usually somewhere

[26:04] along the line the pads were changed and

[26:06] the brakes don't feel quite right if the

[26:09] pads are brand new it should have better

[26:11] bite when it's cold and much better bite

[26:13] when it's hot now there is this middle

[26:15] in the modulation that they can feel

[26:16] very different than the steel brakes

[26:18] that's why the steel brakes are so

[26:19] popular and so what a lot of people have

[26:21] done is change the brake pads to a

[26:22] different compound that is more drivable

[26:24] on the street and that's exactly what I

[26:26] would do if I had the Ceramics the

[26:28] packed brake pads they're far easier to

[26:30] drive on the streets especially if you

[26:32] don't know what kind of brake pads are

[26:33] even on your car instead of giving up on

[26:35] them try these brake pad they should

[26:37] help a lot and of course bleed the

[26:39] brakes a lot of people forget that now

[26:41] the other thing that I've heard is that

[26:42] ceramic brakes can be a little bit noisy

[26:44] and yes that's true it's just the

[26:46] harmonics of the brakes there's nothing

[26:48] wrong with them that's just the way that

[26:49] they are they're basically racing brakes

[26:51] for the streets so when the Porsche 991

[26:54] came out it was an NA motor so naturally

[26:57] aspirated motor with the 991.2 all 911s

[27:00] became turbocharged now you would think

[27:02] that that's a great thing because

[27:04] throughout the history the Porsche 911

[27:05] Turbo has been the king of the hill but

[27:07] believe it or not there's actually mixed

[27:09] opinions about turbos being standard on

[27:11] all Porche 911s well it's very simple

[27:14] the turbos act basically as a muffler

[27:16] and it changes the sound of the Porsche

[27:18] 911s

[27:22] engine but there are a lot of advantages

[27:24] to the 991.2 specifically power on paper

[27:28] it looks like you're getting only a

[27:29] little bump in power but what you're

[27:31] really getting is a lot of torque so the

[27:33] engine is a lot more usable in Daily

[27:35] driving the turbo spool up super fast

[27:38] and there's a very little turbo lag and

[27:40] if you need more power it's a lot less

[27:42] expensive to tune a turbo engine than a

[27:44] naturally aspirated

[27:47] engine because you can easily up the

[27:49] Boost with a simple tune and get an

[27:51] extra 100 horsepower you don't even have

[27:53] that option on the naturally aspirated

[27:55] engine and the 991.1 and a version of

[27:57] the engine keeps on living in the new

[27:59] Porsche 992 carplay it's still kind of

[28:02] laggy to be honest with you so I don't

[28:04] even count that the real reason to get a

[28:06] 991.2 is the rear steering that rear

[28:09] steering makes a 991 drive a lot smaller

[28:12] than the earlier models that don't have

[28:14] the rear steering what it essentially

[28:15] does is make the car feel like it has a

[28:17] shorter wheelbase that's what everybody

[28:19] has always loved about the Porsche 911

[28:21] it's short wheel base and not just

[28:23] because it's smaller but because when

[28:24] you have a short wheel basee Everything

[28:26] feels more immediate and so by for of

[28:28] doing this kind of Wizardry and creating

[28:30] this rear wheel of steering the car

[28:32] feels a lot more immediate when you're

[28:33] turning on the highway when you're

[28:35] hitting a bank or in a parking lot that

[28:37] one thing has made the electronic

[28:39] steering on the newer generation 991s a

[28:42] pleasure to have it'll never have the

[28:44] feel of a hydraulic steering but it's so

[28:46] much more precise with the rear steering

[28:48] that it makes it almost worth it almost

[28:50] I still prefer the hydraulic steering on

[28:51] the older porches the best thing is that

[28:54] it is such an advanced car and it hides

[28:57] it all on underneath is incredible

[28:59] Bodywork nobody will suspect the amount

[29:01] of engineering that has gone into a

[29:03] portion one if they see it drive by you

[29:05] only really start seeing the engineering

[29:07] when you drive it and after 30 years

[29:09] pass that the car is still ticking we've

[29:11] got One Life to Live and it's too short

[29:12] to drive boring cars find the nicest one

[29:14] you can find and enjoy the extraordinary

[29:17] the Porsche 9/11's 992s sculpted curves

[29:20] and roaring engine is not just about

[29:23] having fun in many cases it's also about

[29:26] turning a profit or at the very least

[29:28] not losing any money the Porsche 911 is

[29:31] not a normal car and the values explain

[29:34] this think of it as art with a Twist

[29:36] since I've had Porche since I was 17

[29:38] years old I've seen everything go up and

[29:40] down I see so many videos online about

[29:42] the depreciation curves the ups and

[29:44] downs how the resale of the poros are it

[29:47] kind of makes you think are these people

[29:49] thinking in terms of days or weeks or

[29:51] months it does not make any sense don't

[29:54] get me wrong it might make sense for

[29:55] dealers which are flipping cars but the

[29:58] average Enthusiast is looking to buy and

[30:00] hold if the prices go up and down a

[30:02] couple percentage points in the span of

[30:04] a year it does not affect most Porsche

[30:07] owners that being said it's always good

[30:09] to have an exit strategy and also what

[30:12] could be funner than enjoying a car for

[30:14] a period of time and then selling it for

[30:16] more so in many ways it's a double the

[30:18] fun but before we dive in make sure to

[30:21] hit the Subscribe button and the

[30:22] notification Bell drop a like and let's

[30:25] Embark into this journey of fun and a

[30:27] little bit of financial foresight you've

[30:30] got to remember that everybody who's

[30:32] ever purchased a Porsche 911 brand new

[30:34] has wanted it ever since they were a

[30:36] little kid it was not an Impulse buy

[30:38] when they were growing up they had one

[30:40] or two of these and if they were extra

[30:42] cool they had a 928 so by the time that

[30:45] they're looking to actually option out

[30:46] the car they've already had the car in

[30:48] their head for decades and they're going

[30:50] to order exactly how they want it this

[30:52] is one of the advantages of porsa not

[30:54] changing the design the car you wanted

[30:57] when you were 5 years old is still the

[30:59] car that you're going to want when

[31:00] you're 60 so this huge advantage that

[31:02] Porsche has means that almost every kid

[31:05] wants a Porsche 911 but they want it

[31:07] just a little bit different and that's

[31:09] where the options come in Porsche NOS

[31:12] exactly like Ferrari which also puts the

[31:14] options on a plaque in the car that in

[31:16] the secondary Market the options are

[31:18] what sell a car so obviously the limited

[31:21] edition models are usually the ones that

[31:23] automatically start going up and what I

[31:25] mean by automatically as in the

[31:26] depreciation curve really does not

[31:28] affect them these cars are sold at the

[31:30] dealership and usually stored away

[31:32] because they immediately start going up

[31:34] in value and the moment that any

[31:36] specific model is discontinued if it's a

[31:38] limited edition the prices in many cases

[31:41] double you can option it out any color

[31:43] you want and wrap every single piece of

[31:46] plastic in that car with leather even

[31:48] the buttons now it sounds extravagant

[31:51] but fast for 20 years the cars that are

[31:54] optioned out with a crazy colors and

[31:56] crazy options are the ones that command

[31:59] all the headlines and this trend is only

[32:01] growing so you might spend an extra 30

[32:03] or $40,000 on options but if you ever do

[32:06] sell the car in 10 15 20 years you've

[32:09] got something that is so special that

[32:11] everybody's going to want and it's going

[32:12] to be very easy to sell because there's

[32:15] not another one like it on the used car

[32:17] market and this is the trend that has

[32:18] been happening with Porsche 911s ever

[32:20] since the 80s it's just getting a lot

[32:23] more now beyond the crazy option cars

[32:26] the one thing that really doesn't cost

[32:28] anything to guarantee that the Porsche

[32:30] 911 992 that you're purchasing maintains

[32:33] its value far higher than all the other

[32:35] ones is going with the manual

[32:37] transmission and yes I know that the pdk

[32:40] is a far superior than the manual it's

[32:42] faster and in many cases far more

[32:44] reliable because you really can't miss a

[32:46] shift but better and faster does not

[32:48] equate a higher resell now there's a lot

[32:50] of theories on this why would a

[32:52] technically Superior Car be worth less A

[32:55] lot's got to do with the perception look

[32:57] on the auto Trader cars.com everywhere

[32:59] when you see pdk equipped cars it shows

[33:02] as automatic it's so much so that

[33:05] Porsche even changed the automatic lever

[33:07] on his GT3 to make it look like if it

[33:10] were a stick shift car this was the only

[33:12] reason they changed it so if you don't

[33:14] want to spend a lot on options but you

[33:15] still want to guarantee that your

[33:17] Porsche maintains a really high resale

[33:20] value just get the manual it's really

[33:22] easy to drive the clutch is super light

[33:26] it's it's it's almost like it's not even

[33:28] there believe me after the warrant's

[33:32] expired on the Porche 992 how is it

[33:34] going to behave well there's already a

[33:35] lot of cars on the road that tell us

[33:37] exactly how it is because the Porsche 92

[33:39] has a version of the Porsche 91's engine

[33:41] which has a version of the Porsche

[33:44] 997.2 engine those engin have been very

[33:47] reliable if you keep them stock if you

[33:49] start boosting them which is very easy

[33:51] to do by the way and don't upgrade the

[33:53] cooling system you're going to have

[33:55] issues like this

[34:02] and if you're the type of person that

[34:04] likes to take it to the dealership to

[34:05] get it fixed you're also going to have

[34:07] issues like this

[34:10] $883

[34:12] 25 to do this job now it's not as bad as

[34:16] it sounds you got to remember that

[34:17] theaters ships make their money with

[34:19] parts and labor in their service

[34:20] department so this price is what it is

[34:22] it wouldn't be the real price to get a

[34:24] Turbo fixed it's just a couple bolts and

[34:26] a swap so don't let this scare you the

[34:27] engines are rock solid and there are

[34:29] many 997 do2s and 991s already with over

[34:33] 200,000 Mi running trouble-free you see

[34:35] what I mean about the Porsche 992 being

[34:38] on the road for a very long time you

[34:40] can't do the depreciation math with 12

[34:42] or 24 months it doesn't make any sense

[34:45] as far as the life of the car the

[34:46] Porsche 992 is going to be on the road a

[34:48] long time many people say today the same

[34:51] thing that they used to say even when

[34:52] aircool 911s were new these cars will

[34:55] not appreciate how the older generation

[34:57] pora do this keeps happening over and

[34:59] over again realistically the Porsche 911

[35:01] 992 is going to be on the streets for

[35:04] the next 50 years and it's going to go

[35:07] through a lot of up and downs regardless

[35:09] of the economy because Styles and tastes

[35:12] change you've got to think longterm 10

[35:14] 15 20 years on the line in the early

[35:16] 2000s the Porsche 964 was selling in the

[35:19] teens and I remember that they were very

[35:22] difficult to sell everybody saw them as

[35:24] old and almost irrelevant look at it now

[35:27] it has become to many the ultimate

[35:30] Porsche to have and the prices totally

[35:32] match it the Porsche 996 for many years

[35:35] sold for below average because of its

[35:37] headlights but now the headlights are

[35:39] retr cool the Porsche 96 now is where

[35:42] the Porsche 964 was in the early 2000s

[35:45] under appreciated time to snap those up

[35:48] can the Porsche 992 ever be collectible

[35:51] considering that there are so many of

[35:53] them being made it's a simple yes and

[35:55] it's all about the demographics more

[35:58] people know about the Porsche 9911 now

[36:00] than they did when I was younger when

[36:01] the Porsche 993 came out I knew about it

[36:04] because I was obsessed with cars but

[36:05] most people did not know what it was

[36:07] even the kids in my high school didn't

[36:09] know what it was and they had no way of

[36:11] finding out what it was but today

[36:13] everybody knows what a pora 911 is that

[36:15] means your aunt your dad your brother

[36:18] even your abolita knows what a Porche

[36:20] 911 is so the demand is increasing

[36:23] relative to the cars being made that's

[36:25] why Porsche has taken the 911 more up

[36:28] Market because it can and the fact that

[36:30] it stays relatively the same means that

[36:33] brand awareness keeps going up so it's

[36:35] got time on its side and this doesn't

[36:37] happen with Ferraris and McLaren that

[36:39] they're constantly changing the broader

[36:41] Market really doesn't know what they're

[36:43] looking at when they see one of them

[36:45] they might think it's a Corvette so

[36:46] Porsche charges superar money because

[36:49] more people know there's also more

[36:51] porsia events all around the world than

[36:53] there are of any other make Ferrari

[36:56] included this means that when you

[36:57] purchase a Porche 911 992 you're

[37:00] actually buying into a community of

[37:02] really cool people that are down to

[37:03] earth and just love cars and it's all

[37:06] about branding they even built a tower

[37:08] here in Miami too much well that

[37:11] branding is what's going to guarantee

[37:13] that any Porsche 911 992 that you

[37:15] purchase will have an ultimate resale

[37:18] value versus any other car that you can

[37:20] purchase in this price range Porsche

[37:22] really knows what they're doing

[37:24] especially the past 20 years so will you

[37:26] like the Porsche 992 in a year after

[37:28] you've purchased it yes this is the last

[37:32] of the old school Porsches this is the

[37:34] ultimate air cool 911s for a lot of

[37:37] people around the world this is the

[37:39] Porsche 964 and this is the Porsche that

[37:42] a lot of people still don't understand

[37:44] why is it so popular why have the prices

[37:46] escalated and will you get burned if you

[37:49] buy one let's find out now this is one

[37:51] of my favorite portions of all time just

[37:54] enough of old air cooled field with

[37:56] enough modern conveniences to be able to

[37:58] drive it every single day so that it

[38:00] doesn't collect dust in the garage and

[38:02] maybe it's perfect for you too but first

[38:04] don't forget to like And subscribe it

[38:06] really does help push this video out to

[38:08] more people around the world so that

[38:09] more people can know about how good the

[38:10] Porche 964 is growing up the Porche 964

[38:13] to me was one of the coolest Porsches

[38:15] that I ever saw on the road and is

[38:17] incredible how much Porsches have

[38:18] changed since the 964 before seeing a

[38:20] Porsche on the road even here in Miami

[38:22] was an event people will stop you at gas

[38:25] stations to ask you about the car you

[38:26] will get a lot of looks as you're

[38:28] driving by now that was back in the day

[38:30] when these cars were new now it's

[38:31] Amplified even more let's just say if

[38:34] you like driving Incognito stay away

[38:36] from the Porsche 964 this car draws a

[38:38] crowd wherever it goes and it's not just

[38:41] about looks this is a bank fault on

[38:43] Wheels and more than Bank fault because

[38:45] there's a lot of cars that feel solid

[38:47] but they're big the Porsche 964 being

[38:49] one of the last old school porsa has a

[38:52] level of concentrated mass that adds to

[38:54] its specialness nothing feels like an

[38:57] old School classic 911 but the Porsche

[38:59] 964 is not old school you see that car

[39:02] was significantly changed from the

[39:04] earlier year 911 but is more than just

[39:06] extra comfort that this car has versus

[39:08] the earlier one now if you're like me

[39:10] you love Porsche 964 but are they worth

[39:12] all this height how popular is the

[39:14] Porsche 964 exactly I can give you an

[39:17] example if a Porsche 964 is for sale

[39:19] here in Miami it's not going to be a

[39:21] local sale chances are that car is

[39:23] leaving Miami and it's going to Dubai

[39:25] somewhere in California or it's exotic

[39:28] location all around the world so sales

[39:29] of Porsche 964 are usually not local

[39:32] sales the buyers for Porsche 964

[39:34] typically don't shop around their area

[39:36] and so this is driving up the prices in

[39:38] ways that could not have been predicted

[39:40] 20 years ago the good thing about the

[39:41] Porsche 964 is that if you're looking at

[39:43] these prices and thinking to yourself

[39:45] well I had a poster of this car as a kid

[39:47] I'm scared if I buy it it's not going to

[39:49] be as good as what I think is going to

[39:51] be if you've never driven a Porsche 964

[39:54] let me tell you that's not a concern

[39:56] with these cars most people people are

[39:58] incredibly surprised of the disconnect

[40:00] about how they think the car is versus

[40:02] how it actually is you see if you've

[40:04] only seen this car on a poster on

[40:07] pictures and never actually driven it

[40:09] you're going to be really surprised it

[40:10] feels and drives a lot better than what

[40:13] you would imagine and of course if you

[40:15] do you've got the air cooled 911 bug and

[40:17] you know it's going to be expensive but

[40:19] how expensive well there are some things

[40:20] that you can't get away from the

[40:22] purchase price luckily with the way the

[40:23] market is on these cars and it's not

[40:26] just a local market it's it's a

[40:27] worldwide Market the chances of losing

[40:29] your shirt on a Porche 964 it's very

[40:31] rare so you can buy it enjoy it for a

[40:33] couple years and then sell it for the

[40:35] same or more what you don't want to do

[40:37] is buy a car that you think it's perfect

[40:40] but turns out that it needs a lot of

[40:42] work a lot of expensive work cuz nothing

[40:45] is cheap in this car so let's dig into

[40:47] what to look for you're looking to

[40:48] purchase a Porsche 964 or if you

[40:50] actually have one parked in your

[40:51] driveway there's no way around that you

[40:53] need to know what you need to know about

[40:55] this car so let's dive in now when

[40:56] you're looking at at the Porsche 964

[40:58] Market you're actually stepping into an

[41:00] alternate reality you see no car that

[41:02] I've seen is stripped apart faster and

[41:05] over restored than a Porsche 964 so the

[41:08] owners are very meticulous about

[41:10] Restorations and originality not

[41:12] counting of course the updates and the

[41:14] back dat and all of these subcategories

[41:16] so if the body happens to need

[41:17] restoration believe me you can

[41:19] definitely find somebody to do an entire

[41:21] nut and bolt restoration on a 964 it's

[41:24] done all the time however it's very

[41:26] expensive and and timec consuming you

[41:28] can easily spend 2 years getting it

[41:30] right if that's not you then pay

[41:32] attention to this the Porsche 964 body

[41:34] is fully galvanized however that does

[41:37] not guarantee that this car is rust free

[41:39] since the Porche 964 begs to go to the

[41:41] track a lot have been taken to the track

[41:43] many times and many times I mean just

[41:45] once a month or twice a month but you

[41:47] add years to that and the possibility of

[41:49] any 964 getting in a small Bender Bender

[41:52] the odds are increased exponentially

[41:53] this means that looking for rust or

[41:55] bubbling of the paint is is hugely

[41:57] important if you want to do an entire

[41:59] restoration so you should see no rust

[42:02] anywhere in the body except a few areas

[42:04] that I give a pass to because it affects

[42:07] a lot of them and they haven't been

[42:08] crashed specifically around the

[42:10] windshield since the glass is not bonded

[42:12] to the chassis as the seal shrinks water

[42:14] seeps in and just chills in the little

[42:16] crevices around the outside rust starts

[42:18] forming in these areas very quickly I

[42:20] know cars that have had this repaired

[42:22] two or three times already it's a

[42:24] relatively straightforward fix however

[42:26] it if you don't address it the rust most

[42:28] definitely will spread so if you're

[42:30] looking to buy a Porche 964 and you see

[42:32] rust definitely budget that in but also

[42:34] remember that if you see rust around

[42:36] these areas that's usually not a sign of

[42:38] neglect it just happens with these cars

[42:40] now however there is one asteris to add

[42:42] to this if you're looking to get a 964

[42:45] RS that's a beast of a car right well

[42:48] that car is special not just in the way

[42:50] that it drives or that the body is seam

[42:53] welded no the rust proofing was almost

[42:55] completely eliminated from the factory

[42:57] so these are far more likely to rust if

[43:00] you don't baby them and what I mean baby

[43:02] as in garage drive right back to garage

[43:05] so much so that Porsche cut down the

[43:08] corrosion warranty from 10 years down to

[43:10] 3 years on the RS models they obviously

[43:12] know something that you should also be

[43:14] very careful with the rs's check them

[43:16] extra well and if you're fortunate

[43:18] enough to have one of these beautiful

[43:19] cars parked in your home don't even Park

[43:21] in on wet grass for extended amount of

[43:23] time the wet grasses mm- not good on to

[43:26] the next point a lot of these cars live

[43:28] parked now you think to yourself how can

[43:30] anybody enjoy a parked car well let me

[43:32] tell you that I do just looking at a

[43:34] parked car for me is enjoyable so these

[43:35] are not abandoned cars it's just cars

[43:38] that are not as driven as much and what

[43:40] happens when you don't really drive a

[43:42] Porsche 964 I will say specifically

[43:44] anything over 24 months the brake

[43:46] calipers start seizing up with the

[43:48] quickness and again this is not a sign

[43:50] of neglect this is just a sign of nonuse

[43:52] and if there's moisture in the air the

[43:54] calibers can seize up so much that they

[43:56] will need a full rebuild I wouldn't hold

[43:57] this against any car because it's been

[43:59] parked however you've got a budget that

[44:01] in the calipers are aluminum the

[44:03] stainless steel thrust plates collect

[44:05] dust and road salt or air salt and that

[44:08] can lead to some serious corrosion that

[44:10] you don't immediately see 2 3 months

[44:12] after you've driven the car it takes a

[44:13] couple months for this to really start

[44:15] seasoning up the calibers from my

[44:16] experience 24 months a car parked here

[44:19] in Miami I'm pulling Wheels check the

[44:21] brakes because the brakes seizing is one

[44:23] of the biggest things that happens with

[44:24] these cars that are purchased and not

[44:26] really driven that much the suspension

[44:28] on the other hand they last a long time

[44:30] 100,000 Mi and you still won't get

[44:31] clicks or clunks in this suspension so

[44:34] that's a lot easier to diagnose a dragon

[44:36] brake caliber is to be expected I

[44:38] wouldn't hold it against the car I would

[44:39] just budget it in on to next point when

[44:41] you're looking to buy any por 64 the

[44:43] most common advice that you usually hear

[44:45] is check the record and I agree with

[44:47] this I like to see a stack of Records

[44:49] going all the way back when the car

[44:51] first came out of the dealership however

[44:53] the records on the 964 might not be 100%

[44:57] % accurate what do I mean the

[44:58] speedometer gauge pulls right out and so

[45:02] yeah I'm not going so much for the mouse

[45:03] I mean you can and it's good as far as

[45:05] the history and the value of the car you

[45:07] know you've got your Carfax you've got

[45:09] all of that and so you want to have a

[45:10] natural progression of Miles like for

[45:12] example I've seen many cars with 30,000

[45:15] mies and they have seats like this and I

[45:18] could just tell by the side that that

[45:19] car easily has over 150,000 Mi so you

[45:22] actually have to go by the condition of

[45:23] the car and since when you're looking to

[45:25] buy a Porche 964 are it's not going to

[45:27] be in your local area you might be 1,000

[45:30] or 3,000 Mi away it gets really tricky

[45:32] ideally you have a sack of Records you

[45:34] have a phone number of the latest shop

[45:36] that service the car you can call the

[45:38] shop and if the shop remembers and knows

[45:40] the car that's as good as gold remember

[45:42] that however that's not always a

[45:44] possibility so in cases like this where

[45:46] you really don't know the car you really

[45:48] don't know the seller there's actually

[45:50] Services of Porsche Enthusiast that will

[45:52] fly to the car inspect the car for you

[45:54] for a fee and give you a report tag

[45:56] somebody in the comments below if you

[45:57] know anybody now this might seem extreme

[45:59] but having a Porsche 964 expert look at

[46:03] the car is worth more than 10 ppis let

[46:06] me explain yes it might be a little bit

[46:08] expensive relative to a regular

[46:10] pre-purchase inspection but if you just

[46:12] factor in the price of a headlight or

[46:14] respraying a rear bumper or any little

[46:16] thing on this car done right you've more

[46:18] than covered Yourself by sending an

[46:20] expert in there that really knows what

[46:22] they're looking at to look at your

[46:23] potential Porsche 964 believe me it's

[46:25] worth it I've seen people buy perfect

[46:28] Porsche 964 only to have them delivered

[46:31] back to their home and the project start

[46:33] don't do that get informed or find

[46:36] somebody that really knows Porsche 964

[46:38] and have them inspect the car for you

[46:41] the records are nice however they're not

[46:43] the end all and be all by a huge stretch

[46:45] on to next Point engines the Porsche 964

[46:48] is 3.6 L air cooled Flat 6 is an

[46:51] unbelievable Symphony Of Sound now if

[46:54] you're really picky about sound this car

[46:56] is like the full meal especially with

[46:59] exhaust however it's not perfect I

[47:01] remember all the way back in the 1990s

[47:04] when I got my first Porsche me and my

[47:05] brother would go to local shops here in

[47:07] Miami and dig the owner's brains about

[47:09] these cars my brother's an engineer so a

[47:11] lot of the things came naturally to him

[47:13] not to me as much but there is one thing

[47:15] that was an overwhelming response to the

[47:17] Porsche 964 they drive great they're

[47:20] really fun and they leak oil as a matter

[47:21] of fact if it's not leaking oil chances

[47:23] are it doesn't have oil and that's just

[47:25] part of it a lot of the tiny microscopic

[47:27] oil leaks are actually hidden by the

[47:29] under trays these under trays hide a lot

[47:31] of potential leaks so the only real way

[47:33] to trace oil leaks is to put it on a

[47:36] lift just like every single aircool 911

[47:38] and on a lift you can really diagnose if

[47:40] you have a potential oil leak however

[47:42] this car is going to leak oil and it's

[47:44] okay it's not a big deal the engines are

[47:46] really robust and they take a pounding

[47:49] now leaking oil and consuming oil are

[47:51] two totally different things but guess

[47:53] what these 3.6 engines also consume oil

[47:56] as a matter of fact Porsche has in their

[47:58] guidelines an allowable amount of oil

[48:00] usage that the airod 3.6 engines are

[48:03] allowed it being a flat 6 engine if a

[48:05] car has been parked for a while when you

[48:06] first turn around in the morning you

[48:08] might get a beautiful plume of white

[48:10] smoke that signifies oh no it's burning

[48:12] oil it's not if you just get it on the

[48:14] startup and it clears out that's natural

[48:17] however if you keep getting that

[48:19] beautiful white smoke then chances are

[48:21] it needs a bit more looking into when

[48:23] the Porsche 964 came out Porsche did not

[48:25] use gaskets between the cylinders And

[48:27] the cylinder head they instead used

[48:29] metal to metal contact and when these

[48:31] heads are torqued down you know

[48:33] Distortion is going to happen and if

[48:34] Distortion happens leaks happen and if

[48:37] the Distortion is enough you're going to

[48:38] lose compression the reduction of

[48:40] compression is the one thing that I

[48:42] would really watch out for even in 1990

[48:44] pora put a larger seating surface and

[48:46] seating rig to a lot of people cured the

[48:48] problem however it did not go away a lot

[48:51] of cars have been retrofitted but the

[48:53] leaks are there it's just part of the

[48:54] deal also it's important to know that

[48:56] oil leaks can come from anywhere in the

[48:57] engine and they often do but in most

[48:59] cases they're relatively small the thing

[49:01] is that they just add all up and if

[49:03] you've got to pull the engine to fix a

[49:05] little oil leak believe me you're not

[49:07] looking at a bill of changing a small

[49:09] oil leak because once the engine is out

[49:11] you might as well do everything that

[49:12] needs to be done to the 911 and usually

[49:14] the list is long so a little bit of oil

[49:16] leaking is normal however not to the

[49:18] point where the car is actually losing

[49:20] compression so checking the compression

[49:21] on all cylinders is the first thing to

[49:24] check on a Porsche 964 Flat 6 engine

[49:26] that was will tell you the real health

[49:28] of the engine so if you want to avoid

[49:30] that situation make sure the car is

[49:32] truly inspected by somebody that knows

[49:34] air cool 911 otherwise the car is going

[49:36] to be out of the road in the shop

[49:38] getting refreshed for quite a while the

[49:40] other thing that I would check for is

[49:42] the Dual Distributors if they're both

[49:44] firing you see because there are two

[49:45] spark plugs per cylinder and it's got

[49:47] two Distributors linked and th

[49:49] synchronized by a tooth rubber belt this

[49:51] belt can break leading to just one plug

[49:54] per cylinder firing and you know what

[49:56] you you can't always tell yes it can

[49:58] make it feel uneven or have flat spots

[50:00] in the RPM range but I know somebody

[50:02] that was driving around with a broken

[50:04] belt for over 2 years and did not notice

[50:07] as far as they're concerned their car

[50:08] was driving as good as new that's not

[50:10] good this obviously can lead to

[50:12] predetonation and that means blown

[50:14] cylinder head SEALS or Worse that's also

[50:16] an easy check that's not immediately

[50:18] obvious from any test drive unless

[50:20] somebody that really knows these cars is

[50:21] driving it on to the next point the Dual

[50:23] Mass flywheel on the manuals it actually

[50:26] makes it really smooth think of it as

[50:27] rubber in the flywheel and that's

[50:29] exactly what it is so this time in

[50:31] Porsche's history Porsche was trying to

[50:32] make their cars smoother and quieter as

[50:35] a matter of fact that's one of the

[50:36] reasons that the 96 came out the CEO at

[50:38] the time thought that nobody was going

[50:40] to pay more money for cars that were

[50:41] really loud and not as refined so in

[50:44] this quest to really refine the Porsche

[50:47] 964 they added this dual Mass flywheel

[50:49] with a rubber dampner and like anything

[50:52] rubber it first starts getting hard it

[50:54] starts cracking and then ironically

[50:56] after not much abuse you actually have a

[50:58] car that's clunking far more than a car

[51:01] than it just had a normal flywheel if

[51:02] you got to change the flywheel you can't

[51:04] do it with the engine inside so that

[51:05] means that if you can't do it yourself

[51:06] you've got to pay for the labor to go

[51:07] ahead and drop the engine to change out

[51:09] the clutch and flywheel a lot of people

[51:10] go with the lightweight RS flywheels

[51:12] which I personally like because it makes

[51:14] the engine rev a lot faster in a way a

[51:17] lot smoother as you're accelerating

[51:18] through the gears but not smooth as in

[51:20] heavy smooth I mean smooth as in eager

[51:23] smoothness and that's what the

[51:24] lightweight flywheel gives you the

[51:25] engine feels stronger and to me the

[51:27] engine feels like it's picked up an easy

[51:29] 30 40 horsepower feel and feel at the

[51:32] end of the day is all that matters at

[51:33] least to me on to next point the

[51:35] Tiptronic transmission now the Tiptronic

[51:37] transmission is a torque converter

[51:39] transmission so it's a conventional

[51:41] transmission and guess what it's great

[51:43] it really is it's not as engaging as the

[51:45] manuals but if you would read the test

[51:48] drives on this transmission back in the

[51:49] day everyone was like wow this

[51:52] transmission really takes a 964 to the

[51:54] next level now of course the driving

[51:56] enjoyment is not the same as the manuals

[52:00] however just driving an aircool 911 is

[52:02] enough for a lot of people believe me it

[52:04] really is so the automatic transmissions

[52:06] them being great they're also very

[52:08] reliable and they don't sap that much

[52:10] fun from the 964 so no bashing of the

[52:13] automatic because you know what one day

[52:15] every single one of us is going to get

[52:16] to a point where we really can't be

[52:18] shifting as much and just the fact you

[52:20] have the option of getting an automatic

[52:22] to enjoy an air cooled 911 is incredible

[52:26] for a lot of lot of people it's the

[52:27] automatic or nothing it's good and

[52:30] nobody should knock it on to the next

[52:31] Point buying modified cars now I

[52:34] understand that modifying is half the

[52:36] fun for a lot of people however when the

[52:38] time comes to sell when somebody's

[52:40] looking to buy a Porsche 964 they're

[52:42] looking at the poster this is what they

[52:45] have in their brain right here this is

[52:47] it anything that deviates from this the

[52:49] value you know I don't want to say the

[52:51] value because there's always a buyer for

[52:52] the car let's just say the pool of

[52:54] buyers is far less because you could

[52:57] have a really cool car but it might be

[53:00] cool to some people but not other people

[53:02] so this is something that most people

[53:04] that have owned many porsa know that

[53:06] whenever you even change the radio from

[53:08] the original Porsche unit when you do

[53:10] that you'll get better sound better

[53:12] everything however when the time comes

[53:14] to sell the buyer is not thinking wow

[53:16] great music the buyer is thinking what

[53:18] happened to the wiry what's going on

[53:21] inside there thinking about the

[53:22] liability of course so if you're looking

[53:24] to sell original is a 100 times better

[53:28] than modified if you're looking to buy

[53:30] remember that what I'm saying here is

[53:32] obvious to a lot of people and you're

[53:33] always going to pay a premium for

[53:35] originality however a lot of cars look

[53:38] original but they're not they were

[53:39] modified brought back to original and

[53:41] modified yet again this means that you

[53:43] really need to have an expert take a

[53:45] look at the car because it might look

[53:46] beautiful in pictures however in person

[53:49] you can tell it's been fooled around

[53:50] with and only the eye of somebody that

[53:52] obsesses over these cars can really tell

[53:55] in 10 seconds so if you can can find

[53:56] somebody that really knows these cars to

[53:58] take a look at them to see if they're

[53:59] really original that's worth its price

[54:01] and gold on to next one if you live in

[54:03] hot places like Miami all you really

[54:05] care about is the AC going to cool are

[54:07] you going to be sweating your off or are

[54:09] you actually going to be able to drive

[54:10] it and not arrive drenched one of the

[54:12] great things about Porsche 964 is that

[54:15] those are actually the ones that you see

[54:16] in Miami because it's hot and the air

[54:19] conditioner work you rarely see any air

[54:21] cooled 911s here in Miami unless they're

[54:24] 964 and up and the main reason reason is

[54:26] AC AC down here is like uh yeah it's

[54:29] like life support especially when it

[54:31] gets really really hot in traffic when

[54:33] there is no breeze so to get the benefit

[54:35] of the 964 completely revised HVAC

[54:38] system it needs to be R12 if you follow

[54:42] advice from magazines like this and go

[54:46] with the R134 it's just not going to

[54:48] cool as good specifically the cool down

[54:50] time you're going to be in there

[54:51] sweating until it starts cooling down

[54:54] little by little and you're just going

[54:55] to be like m this is not good this

[54:57] revised AC systems in the 964 was

[55:00] designed to run R12 not R134 the cooling

[55:04] is going to go way way down and this is

[55:06] super important not just for hot weather

[55:08] because the compressor should also be on

[55:10] when you're turning on the heater

[55:11] because the compressor dries the air

[55:14] inside the cabin so whenever you see

[55:15] conversion kits that say oh this kit

[55:18] converts your R12 to 134 all that is is

[55:22] just a little cap so you could put the

[55:23] new gas in nothing's been converted it's

[55:25] a r R12 system so if you want to have a

[55:28] good time with your 964 take it on road

[55:30] trips for thousands of miles and arrive

[55:32] in comfort as it was designed to do in

[55:34] the 964 R12 it's where it's at you can

[55:37] still buy it the only thing with the R12

[55:39] is that they just don't make it anymore

[55:41] but guess what they made so much of it

[55:42] that is still available to purchase on

[55:44] to the next one so the Porsche 964 being

[55:46] a really emotional car if you're going

[55:48] into it clearheaded and knowing exactly

[55:50] what you're getting you ensure that your

[55:52] emotions with this car is 100% positive

[55:55] as a matter of fact it might be the one

[55:57] car that you really want to keep forever

[55:59] however on the flip side if you have a

[56:01] bad experience because you didn't do

[56:03] your due diligence and had a solid pre-

[56:05] purchase inspection it can turn sour

[56:07] really quickly and from what I've seen

[56:09] most of the bad experiences that people

[56:11] have with pora 964 are from people that

[56:14] have gotten cars that have been

[56:15] neglected that have years of deferred

[56:17] maintenance and they think it's going to

[56:19] be perfect it's not it's going to have

[56:21] issues this was an expensive car when it

[56:23] was new and it's even more expensive now

[56:25] but the good thing is that whatever you

[56:27] spend on most aircool 911s usually when

[56:30] the time comes to sell you're able to

[56:31] get your money back if you do sell

[56:33] because usually when people buy a

[56:34] Porsche 964 it's the one they keep

[56:36] because there are few cars that are

[56:38] better in the driveway than in the

[56:40] poster and the Porsche 964 is definitely

[56:43] one of them that's the Porsche 964 used

[56:45] 993s regularly sell for over $100,000

[56:49] more selling for more than they did when

[56:52] they first came out into the showroom it

[56:54] looks expensive to anybody who doesn't

[56:56] understand what the air cooled 911

[56:58] market is when Porsche finished making

[56:59] the 993 they didn't replace that car the

[57:02] 993 is the last 911 so it's the last not

[57:06] just air cold because when you say it

[57:08] was the last Air Cold you're only

[57:09] talking about the engine no the entire

[57:11] car is the last of that era and it was

[57:13] never replaced all that move from that

[57:15] era to the new era is the badge and the

[57:18] naming for marketing purposes there is

[57:19] no a latest and greatest because that is

[57:22] the latest and greatest so since the car

[57:24] was never replaced everybody wants there

[57:26] is no comparable and that's driving up

[57:28] prices the 993 in particular is very

[57:31] interesting when you say Market forces

[57:33] drive up a car's price you can say that

[57:36] just about any used car that has gone up

[57:39] in value the air cooled 911s are

[57:41] different in that the demand is a

[57:43] recognition of the value that you get

[57:45] with those cars let me explain whenever

[57:47] you see Supply demand arguments used to

[57:50] describe a car's astronomical price

[57:52] going up is usually forces that are

[57:54] external there are a lot of classic cars

[57:57] that have gone up in value because of

[57:59] external forces pop culture a movie or

[58:01] several movies all of these external

[58:04] forces can get the car and raise its

[58:07] value regardless of the quality of the

[58:09] car and that happens a lot you see that

[58:11] everywhere in the used car market the

[58:13] reason that the 993 and aircool 911s but

[58:16] specifically the 993 are going up is

[58:18] because there was no replacement for

[58:20] that car that was the last the last of

[58:22] the last there was no cool movie that

[58:24] made his price go double no it has gone

[58:26] up because of the car and only the car

[58:29] now what do you mean the car well it's

[58:31] very interesting with this car Porsche

[58:33] in the early '90s was about to go

[58:34] bankrupt building cars like the 993 and

[58:38] the 928 so it cost them more money to

[58:41] build the car and get it to the showroom

[58:43] then what the car was actually selling

[58:44] for they were counting on variations and

[58:47] upsales in the options now a lot of

[58:49] manufactures do this but the 911 Wass

[58:51] Porsche's bread and butter by doing this

[58:53] with your main car you are at the line

[58:55] of Break Even or make profit and even

[58:58] when you do make money on the turbos on

[59:00] the higher end spec cars it's not a

[59:01] breakout profit so this was pora's

[59:03] situation all through the ' 80s and the

[59:05] '90s so much so that they almost went

[59:07] bankrupt building cars that are more

[59:10] expensive to make than what you're

[59:12] selling them for and that all changed

[59:14] with the boxer the boxer came in at just

[59:16] under 40,000 bucks in 1987 and the

[59:19] profit margin in the boxer was over 50%

[59:22] for Porsche now they're in business the

[59:23] end user was getting a Porsche

[59:25] experience experience for less money

[59:27] than the 911 so you can't keep a running

[59:29] company selling a product that you're

[59:30] losing money on and so they came out

[59:32] with the Boxster and it saved Porsche

[59:34] from going bankrupt and when the new

[59:35] 9911 came out after the 993 it only cost

[59:39] Porsha about 18% more to make a 911

[59:42] versus the Boxster but they were selling

[59:44] them at 9911 prices plus options of

[59:46] course it doesn't take a rocket

[59:48] scientist to tell you that you have two

[59:50] CS the 993 that Porsche was losing money

[59:52] on and the boxer which was a huge money

[59:54] maker and the 99 six so Porche went from

[59:57] almost being bankrupt to being the most

[59:59] profitable car company in the world with

[1:00:01] margins that are astronomical as a

[1:00:02] matter of fact they still are but after

[1:00:04] the dust has settled all that you're

[1:00:06] left with is the cars the actual product

[1:00:08] that was left by this switch from the

[1:00:10] old to the new and when you hold the

[1:00:12] product on itself one was a money maker

[1:00:14] for Porsche and one lost money for

[1:00:16] Porsche so now you can start seeing why

[1:00:19] the 993 is going up so much in value you

[1:00:21] get more for your money with that car

[1:00:24] even if you're paying over as new over

[1:00:27] sticker on a car that's almost 30 years

[1:00:28] old you're still getting more for your

[1:00:30] money than a newer 911 and you couldn't

[1:00:33] tell this from the road test at the time

[1:00:35] all the road test that came out at the

[1:00:37] time were glowing Praises for the new

[1:00:40] replacement a hair faster a little bit

[1:00:41] quieter stops a little bit better so the

[1:00:44] figures looked like if it was an upgrade

[1:00:46] and all it takes is just opening the

[1:00:48] door of a 993 I can do a 2our video

[1:00:50] about the 911

[1:00:53] store but there are also a whole bunch

[1:00:56] of other little things that are not as

[1:00:58] obvious as that bank fold door that that

[1:01:00] car has little things like the carpet

[1:01:03] the carpet on the 993 is sliver it from

[1:01:05] the factory it's almost like a lamb's

[1:01:07] wool and like that everything throughout

[1:01:09] the car the sea structures you remove

[1:01:11] the base of the seat on the 993 is the

[1:01:13] same one as the 928 made by ricaro it is

[1:01:17] overbuilt and expensive to make so how

[1:01:19] does that hold up over time you get in a

[1:01:22] 993 that has 100,000 Mi and you cannot

[1:01:25] tell that that car has that many miles

[1:01:27] it could have 200,000 Mi and is still in

[1:01:29] unbelievable condition because it holds

[1:01:31] up because Porche was losing money in

[1:01:33] that car bad for Porsche but it was

[1:01:35] great for the customer now since that

[1:01:36] car is gone they don't make it anymore

[1:01:38] the good thing is that you can still buy

[1:01:39] one and they're so overbuilt that it

[1:01:41] doesn't matter if it's almost 30 years

[1:01:43] old it's as good as new it is that

[1:01:45] impressive now people know what those

[1:01:46] cars are and they all want a little bit

[1:01:48] of 993 and I can't blame them the 993 is

[1:01:52] the most beautiful car that has ever

[1:01:54] been made period it's so beautiful that

[1:01:56] Porsche has been trying to get back to

[1:01:58] that 993 look with every model starting

[1:02:01] with the 997 The 997 looks more like a

[1:02:03] 993 the 991 even the new 992 has

[1:02:07] standard wide body that you should have

[1:02:08] to pay extra for very difficult in a new

[1:02:10] car with crash regulations so the car

[1:02:12] keeps getting bigger and bigger but not

[1:02:14] quite as beautiful as the 93 now the car

[1:02:16] is not only about build quality or looks

[1:02:18] however it is a big factor what makes

[1:02:20] the 993 so cool is that it's a 1960s car

[1:02:24] and it ended in the 99 3 you can get a

[1:02:26] door from a 1997 Porsche 993 and put it

[1:02:30] on a 1975 Porsche 911 it bolts on

[1:02:33] incredible so even though the structure

[1:02:35] is the same it was stiffened refined the

[1:02:38] suspension was completely redone several

[1:02:40] times especially for the 993 up from the

[1:02:43] 964 the engine kept getting bigger and

[1:02:46] bigger but it kept a lot of weird things

[1:02:48] so if you got floor hinged pedals like

[1:02:50] an old Beetle it's funny and since

[1:02:51] you're driving a 1960s car with modern

[1:02:54] Porsche performance you still have the

[1:02:56] big rmo brakes you still have that Flat

[1:02:58] 6 engine you still have that six-speed

[1:03:00] you have modern air conditioner so you

[1:03:02] can actually drive it and hop places

[1:03:04] like for example here in Miami you can

[1:03:06] daily drive that car and be entertained

[1:03:08] all the time that's part of the reason

[1:03:09] why those cars are so expensive you can

[1:03:11] use them every single day you don't have

[1:03:12] to use them only on the weekends the

[1:03:14] maintenance on that car is very low

[1:03:16] especially compared to the earlier

[1:03:18] aircooled 911s there's no Val

[1:03:19] adjustments remember it's Decades of

[1:03:21] refinement in that 993 engine and the

[1:03:24] brakes are almost comical more than

[1:03:25] sufficient for that car and it's got a

[1:03:27] six speeed but six is actually an

[1:03:29] acceleration gear because that car does

[1:03:31] top end in sixth gear not fifth so six

[1:03:34] is not an overdrive you have six usable

[1:03:36] gears now since Porsche was counting on

[1:03:38] making money on variations of the car

[1:03:41] and selling them for more countless

[1:03:42] variation of that car came out all-wheel

[1:03:44] drive convertibles Target turbo ybody

[1:03:47] add to that the list of options that you

[1:03:49] could have had any color anything as

[1:03:51] long as you paid for it that's how

[1:03:53] Porsche stayed afloat with the 993 and

[1:03:55] that's great for the the customer

[1:03:56] because there's so many versions of the

[1:03:57] 993 that there's something for everybody

[1:04:00] but the nicest ones you're going to pay

[1:04:01] the most for 993 turbos you're going to

[1:04:04] pay 993 wi bodies you're also going to

[1:04:07] pay and the only deals that you can

[1:04:08] possibly find on a 993 are going to be

[1:04:10] the convertibles and some of the target

[1:04:13] cuz the target are still super nice and

[1:04:14] that's to be understood because that all

[1:04:16] comes down to where you live if you live

[1:04:18] in Miami having a 993 convertible is 365

[1:04:21] day a year experience it's heaven but if

[1:04:24] you have it in Michigan where it's snows

[1:04:26] that heaven becomes a liability and it

[1:04:28] limits the use of the car remember these

[1:04:30] cars are daily drivers if you have to

[1:04:31] store the car you're storing the fund

[1:04:33] and of obviously the price goes down the

[1:04:35] prices relative to other porchas have

[1:04:37] stayed going up constantly except for

[1:04:40] one initial dip when the boxer and the

[1:04:42] 996 came out when those cars came out

[1:04:44] the marketing on the newer water cooled

[1:04:46] cars was overwhelming and the used

[1:04:49] prices especially on the basic 993s went

[1:04:51] down and stayed lower for a couple years

[1:04:54] I remember in the early 20

[1:04:56] you can get a 993s in the teens that

[1:04:58] doesn't exist today that was all the

[1:05:00] marketing that Porsche was pushing out

[1:05:02] with the newer cars a suppressed the

[1:05:04] market but obviously the cream has to

[1:05:06] rise to the top anyways and incept for

[1:05:07] that initial dip that maybe lasted 3 4

[1:05:10] years the prices started going up they

[1:05:12] might stall for a couple years and then

[1:05:14] back up again that's that car's market

[1:05:15] and I don't see that changing the car is

[1:05:17] not a marketing car the car is the real

[1:05:19] deal whatever you spend on that car your

[1:05:21] money secure so it's expensive but

[1:05:23] relative to what you could spend $45

[1:05:25] ,000 bucks on a new Minivan and in 5

[1:05:27] years you can't even give it away on a

[1:05:28] 993 you could spend $80 $100,000 enjoy

[1:05:32] the car for a couple years and then set

[1:05:33] it for the same or more and if anything

[1:05:36] that trend is going to accelerate

[1:05:38] because it's a usable investment not

[1:05:40] only the most beautiful car ever made it

[1:05:43] is the best investment regardless of

[1:05:45] price because you get to enjoy it as it

[1:05:48] stays or goes up in value and you can

[1:05:50] say that about all air cooled 911s but

[1:05:53] the 993 in particular now you know